EPTPeople use it to explain why things happen and fill the voids of the unknown. If there was a god lol kevin pretty much says exactly how I feel about the whole subject. He is incompetent. I am a firm believer in proof of something being the way it is. I just dont think god feels that area for me because I cant bring myself to believe something thats not there. Any who, just felt I would rant a little.
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8Pylon
United States223 Posts
People use it to explain why things happen and fill the voids of the unknown. If there was a god lol kevin pretty much says exactly how I feel about the whole subject. He is incompetent. I am a firm believer in proof of something being the way it is. I just dont think god feels that area for me because I cant bring myself to believe something thats not there. Any who, just felt I would rant a little. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On July 26 2008 15:42 HeadBangaa wrote: It's no wonder these kind of topics achieve nothing. Everyone just asserts their opinions, whoopee. Truly a masturbatory discussion. You could have been the first to not do that, but you just did; Ironic. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
<[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section hehe | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On July 26 2008 14:24 mahnini wrote: 1. If there's a God and he loves us he wouldn't send us to hell. 2. If there's a God and he loves us but sends use to hell, fuck him. + Show Spoiler + BLAHBLABLAHLABLAHFREECHOICEBLAHLABHALHBLAHB This is the most basic, and stupid argument against religion and God. Let's say God is the king of a vast country. This king obviously has laws. He loves his people. And let's say that a vast majority of the people love him too. But there are a few people who keep questioning his authority and try to revolt. While this king does want everyone to be happy, he cannot tolerate the people who revolt and hurt the "good" citizens of his country. Thus, what does this king do? He is portrayed as a loving king. And yet, the revolting citizens blame the king for trying to put them in prison. And if there was a heaven that the king could send his people to, he would obviously send the good ones, and leave the bad ones behind. Any questions? You should rather focus on the fact that there is no physical proof that God actually exists. Or that the fact that there's no solid proof that much of the Bible is actually inspired by God. Don't use this stupid and elementary argument about God being a "loving" God and how he can stand sending people to hell. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On July 26 2008 16:30 WhatisProtoss wrote: This is the most basic, and stupid argument against religion and God. Let's say God is the king of a vast country. This king obviously has laws. He loves his people. And let's say that a vast majority of the people love him too. But there are a few people who keep questioning his authority and try to revolt. While this king does want everyone to be happy, he cannot tolerate the people who revolt and hurt the "good" citizens of his country. Thus, what does this king do? He is portrayed as a loving king. And yet, the revolting citizens blame the king for trying to put them in prison. And if there was a heaven that the king could send his people to, he would obviously send the good ones, and leave the bad ones behind. Any questions? You should rather focus on the fact that there is no physical proof that God actually exists. Or that the fact that there's no solid proof that much of the Bible is actually inspired by God. Don't use this stupid and elementary argument about God being a "loving" God and how he can stand sending people to hell. Hey how about this. There's this father and he loves his kids but they aren't following his rules, so he sends his kids to hell. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. For some super being that's supposed to be omniscient and omnipotent he sure is quite spiteful. It break down when you talk about murderous people sure, but what if a person never goes to church or doesn't believe in God. Will he still be sent to eternal damnation? What if he does everything morally "correct" but refuses to live his life by a book. What then? TO HELL WITH HIM OF COURSE. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Physical proof is irrelevant for Christians. Forget the ones that claim physical evidence in favor of their faith; their crackpottery is self-evident. The ones that like to think of themselves as logical use only faith to justify their belief in God; it cannot be undermined by physical evidence. Philosophical arguments will still apply, such as the one I presented. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
I mean, if a man were to live like a saint but not have faith in God by the rigid rules of Christianity he will go to hell correct? Doesn't make sense to me, so I choose to believe God isn't as rigid as Christianity or he doesn't exist and either way I'm covered. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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micronesia
United States24782 Posts
Two men having sex is an abomination. This is why many religious people try to get it legally banned. However, eating shell fish is equally an abomination if my understanding of the bible is correct, and yet I don't see religious activists lobbying for the closing of seafood restaurants :-/ | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On July 26 2008 17:13 micronesia wrote: I think more of the disagreements about religion stem from religious people misinterpreting their own religion than anything else (including most of the violent crimes committed by religious zealots [pun may or may not have been intended huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu]). Two men having sex is an abomination. This is why many religious people try to get it legally banned. However, eating shell fish is equally an abomination if my understanding of the bible is correct, and yet I don't see religious activists lobbying for the closing of seafood restaurants :-/ hahaha really? can you link me to that verse please? it really makes me sad that most religions consider gay sex an abomination | ||
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8Pylon
United States223 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On July 26 2008 15:58 Salv wrote: You could have been the first to not do that, but you just did; Ironic. "Views on God" is literally a statement about opinion, making your blog a statement of opinion. All ensuing posts were very opinionated, as well. There is no irony; I wish people would stop throwing around the word "irony" incorrectly, it's like, some fun buzzowrd for teanagers or something? | ||
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8Pylon
United States223 Posts
On July 26 2008 18:03 HeadBangaa wrote: "Views on God" is literally a statement about opinion, making your blog a statement of opinion. All ensuing posts were very opinionated, as well. There is no irony; I wish people would stop throwing around the word "irony" incorrectly, it's like, some fun buzzowrd for teanagers or something? "teanagers" gg??? | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
If you're gonna get nitpicky about that, stop using triple punctuation marks where they're not grammatically correct. And stop using nonstandard English. Or just ignore errors in the English if you can figure out what he's saying anyways. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
[QUOTE]On July 26 2008 17:13 micronesia wrote: I think more of the disagreements about religion stem from religious people misinterpreting their own religion than anything else (including most of the violent crimes committed by religious zealots [pun may or may not have been intended huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu]). Two men having sex is an abomination. This is why many religious people try to get it legally banned. However, eating shell fish is equally an abomination if my understanding of the bible is correct, and yet I don't see religious activists lobbying for the closing of seafood restaurants :-/[/QUOTE] That's because the ridiculous laws of leviticus were overturned by Jesus. Which inherently makes no sense, but whatever. | ||
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.MistiK
Netherlands347 Posts
Watch that documentary of Richard Dawkins named The enemies of reason. He sets up an experiment where dowsers have to "feel" which one of 15 closed boxes contain water. I forgot the exact number, but not a single dowser got it right more than half the time. Even though the results clearly proved that dowsing does not work, the dowsers still believed in their paranormal gift and they made up excuses for why it didn't work this one time. if you can't even convince a dowser that he can't "feel" where water is with clear evidence, then how can you convince a Christian that there is no invisible god? | ||
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