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67. 0cz3c Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:38 0cz3c wrote:Qrs, it would help him because he would know who is and who isn't mafia, and thus, having knowledge, he would turn the town's tremendous disadvantage into an advantage. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 21:59 0cz3c wrote:I woke up just now expecting to wake up to the day post. 2 days of waiting for a day post is just making me soooo anxious. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:38 0cz3c wrote:I don't know about the telephone clue linking to Caller. Chuiu made that same "clue" last mafia game and it linked to no one -- it was just part of the plot. Not being in the game last game, I suspected it to be linking to Caller as well, which it did not. It could still point to him, I'm just saying that it didn't last game and it's basically a clone of what was said last game as well. It might just be Chuiu's writing style/technique/preferences. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:59 0cz3c wrote:I believe a buckshot is identical to a lead shot. I think it's an enlarged shot of lead used for deer hunting, or shooting buck. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:29 0cz3c wrote:Yeah, sorry Opz. I think you may be right with the signature, it seems that both Day 1 and 2 have references to it. I don't want to point fingers, though, before Ace actually announces his opinion (since he has knowledge of roles and we do not)... Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:18 0cz3c wrote:Empyrean, I said I think it does. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:16 0cz3c wrote:There's a 99% chance he's not in mafia since no detective spoke up about him being in mafia. This means that 1. Detectives have scanned him and found him not to be mafia 2. No detective is active so no one can acknowledge whether or not he is or is not in mafia. #1 is much more logical since there are 4 detectives (you would expect at least one to be active). Wysp, I'm not entirely sure what page it is, but Ace posted this as part of his revised plan. I think it's in the 70s. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:35 0cz3c wrote:Ace, can you catch-up? A lot has happened since you last posted (lots of accusations). Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:32 0cz3c wrote:Yeah, but clues for Night 2 won't necessarily be just mafia... Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:34 0cz3c wrote:BlindAlbino, so far, Chuiu has only linked 17 mafias in his clues. Mandalor can VERY well be one of the three not on it, or in one of the clues that we misinterpreted. I'm trusting Ace on this one. He sounded much too confident to be wrong. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:44 0cz3c wrote:Wow. That. Really. Hurt. We just lost a DT, a para, AND a BG in the same night... Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:21 0cz3c wrote:No, it's bumatlarge. He was a suspect after the first night post, with Mr. Brown (his profile pic). Both he and randombum ought to be investigated by DTs whether the clue links to them. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:44 0cz3c wrote:Zomg this wurm ordeal is causing soooo much confusion. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:59 0cz3c wrote:This is much more dramatic than the first game. -.- That's completely uncool of araav -- he better not be mafia or what he did was reallllllly gay. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:10 0cz3c wrote:Ace keep in mind we only have about twelve hours before night! Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:49 0cz3c wrote:I think that was Chuiu just telling us we were all over the place, and everyone was voting for like everyone, and no one could make up their mind when deciding to vote for whomever. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:35 0cz3c wrote:Because he was annoying to the town, and Ace told half of the list to lynch him. We're 1/3 now, and we NEED to kill some mafia tonight with vigilante kills, or at least kill a mafioso tomorrow. =/ Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:24 0cz3c wrote:I'm wondering why Ninja4Ever has not been put as suspicious, yet. At this point, I see two obvious clues pointing at him. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=48#958 Shadowdrgn makes clear that in the first Day post, one of the mafia came out of nowhere, begging the similarity of a ninja. That may not seem captivating by itself, but in the Day 3 post, a clue pointing to Ninja comes again. "He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead." From the "thrown some at him," I'm really suspecting a ninja star, or blade, or whatever those things are. That's THE only object I can come up with that would slice his head clean off by being thrown. I don't know if he's innocent or now, or if Ace knows whether he's innocent or not, but these clues seem, apart from the bum clues with Sidewinder, to be the strongest we have. They were mentioned before, and I think they ought be revisited. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 11:00 0cz3c wrote:That's ok, Chuiu. Hope you feel better soon. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 06:02 0cz3c wrote:There was the telephone clue and the lead clue a LONG while back. I think Plexa might have linked it to another person (or he's still the suspect for that clue), I'm not sure -- I haven't looked at the thread for too long (sorry, but the game was going progressing too slowly). Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:09 0cz3c wrote:Erm, fusion -- you're just posting what we have already read. You're not making any links to any of the quotes (not entirely helpful just blabbing). Edit: Missed post ahead of me. Yeah, that's more helpful. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 05:32 0cz3c wrote:Yeah, I don't think Shallow is in mafia this round. He is a completely different person now. He's not trying to start arguments, He's not making fake PMs, or causing general chaos in the town. His psychological approach this game is RADICALLY different than that of the last game. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:38 0cz3c wrote:I thought Shallow this game is most blatantly NOT mafia. He's acting entirely differently since the last game and his psychological approach to this mafia game seems more suited to help us win. Fusion, you think it's GeneralStan because of the army clues, right? It seems convincing, but I think Plexa countered that by saying that the clues are all over the place (and Chuiu isn't setting up clues like that this game). Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 12:34 0cz3c wrote:Pink, I think they might be that obvious in some cases. I remember that last game Chuiu had a clue pointing towards Shallow that said, "That was low, even for you." The thing is, when I tried to find characters that would relate to him, it was several (basically anything with knives or weaponry, since gladius implies just that). In this case, it doesn't seem to link to him, but, in general, I don't think we should exclude blatant clues as not being clues. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 12:42 0cz3c wrote:Pink, when you seached, did you search for Spoinka and got Spoink (a pokemon, ^_^), or did you search for Spoink (and cut off the 'a'.). There might be a ton of Pokemon references that Chuiu might have made that have been overlooked, but this would only be the case if you searched for Spoinka. (I just seached "Spoinka" in Google, and the first two pages only showed usernames with Spoinka). Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 04:32 0cz3c wrote:Fusion, does the space fragment between the two show that the bottom is more certain, or the top, or does it not have any significance (personally to me the top seems more convincing (most have clues linked to them that have been mentioned several times (with the exception of shallow -- his behavior just DOES NOT SEEM to be behavior of a mafia) seem strong), but that's a larger field than the out-of-four). Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 07:00 0cz3c wrote:Well, this is the second time people have wondered about the public signature I have, so it might be fitting to translate it now so that there are no gray shadows in its meaning. And I always love an oppounity to talk about Cicero! The lines, in Latin, read, ""Num negas audes? Quid taces? Convincam, si negas; video enim esse hic quosdam qui tecum una fuerunt. O di immortales!" Translated idiomatically into English, they mean, "You don't dare deny it, do you? Why are you silent? I will convict you, if you deny it: I see that here there are certain men who were with you. Good gods!" This indeed is Cicero's First Oration Against Catiline, told in 63 BC in front of the Senate. Its point was to expose a conspiracy that Cicero discovered through an interception of letters by (I believe) Crassus. The conspiracy was an attempt by Catiline, a Roman Patrician, to overthrow the government in Rome. That year he lost against Cicero in the elections for consul (CIcero's consulship took place in 63 B.C.). Catiline's family had always been distinguished and very old; however, they never held the highest office (the consulship). Catiline essentially wasted his family's fortune, and he also attempted to run for the consulship several times (of course, he never was voted it). Feeling that he had run out of options and that he would never become consul, he formed a conspiracy with men such as Manlius so that he might actually attain the position. In the first speech, Cicero addresses to the crowds the terms of the conspiracy. Before the speech, he has not yet heard from Catiline, but he paints the man as a monster (he does this because his life was in danger before this conspiracy was revealed). He's not sure where Catiline is, but he knows that he is in Rome, and with all the conspirators unknown (some were known, but not all), Cicero at the time of this speech is still afraid of them (they still are a threat for his life and the Roman State), so he announces to them to leave Rome. I think you might have a discepancy there, for Cicero talks about the type of conspirators among Catiline in his second oration and not his first (it is much less urgent, still as vehement, but not nearly as efficiently agressive). I'm not entirely certain of it (though I should be -.-), but I believe that these speeches were either said in late October through early Decemeber, or from late November through early December. A small portion of this post was aimed to clear up my signature so that all clue-finding townies have everything possible to work with, but another portion is also aimed for them (while they match up clues) to realize quickly that I'm not in mafia. I think I illuminated more on the topic of my signature for you guys than any measure of Chuiu's knowledge on the quote. I understand that not understanding a signature or name can be frustrating (I tried earlier on, and with the magnitude of the field, it was just overwhelming), so this was an attempt to provide you with a depth of info on my signature. Regarding my name, I don't think it means anything -- I randomly chose letters that when combined sound like a word. The leading reason I think I decided to post this is to inform you guys about this historical events. To me its common knowledge, but it appears that MTF posting its circumstances implies that its not. I highly recommend reading the Orations Against Catiline (even if in English) -- I think they are Cicero's most emotional and powerful speeches he has ever uttered. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 07:08 0cz3c wrote:Sureshot, that's really not helping the town by saying that you predict he's just going to turn up green. It would be much more helpful in explaining how ALL the many references to him are wrong. He doesn't even say that he's not mafia. He's just alluding to being green, which any smart mafia would do. Although I'm not saying that I think he's 100% mafia, you should not just say, "I predict he's green. And he's going to die." That's really not helpful. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:28 0cz3c wrote:Erm, wasn't that clue meant to point towards Quesy? Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 10:44 0cz3c wrote:I honestly don't know who to think is mafia and who isn't, especially this early in the game. Under these conditions, I should abstain... But I guess the only person who actually asked for a vote from me was Randombum (and through a PM), and that was before the actual game began. Ace has just wayyy too many votes, and that adds a lot of suspicions... I vote for Randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:39 0cz3c wrote:I vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:23 0cz3c wrote:I vote for Suspect #2 Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 04:05 0cz3c wrote:I vote for Ghar (I said Suspect #2 -- that might confuse you Chuiu, sorry for that). Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 07:07 0cz3c wrote:I abstain from my second vote until we are sure about wurm being mafioso. Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 12:00 0cz3c wrote:I change my first vote to bumatlarge. I still abstain from my second vote. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:44 0cz3c wrote:I change my first vote to Ghar, as Ace asked. I still abstain from my second vote. This is my last change for this cycle. + Show Spoiler [Ace] + 53. Ace (Mayor) Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:53 Ace wrote:I like the one big thread idea with linking to important posts: multiple threads for a game of this size would just make some players go inactive if they were barely participating anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 10:53 Ace wrote:I liked the original idea of ##vote. easy to control-f search it, and keeps everything in one place. However if a new thread makes administrating the game easier (never did this myself) then go for it. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 15:45 Ace wrote: actually no he is right, this is nonsense. As an innocent townie, above all else your best bet is to elect a Mayor and Pardoner that are above all else highly competent. Having a dumb innocent townie is just as bad as having a Mafia Mayor. If you elect a really smart Mayor who just so happens to be Mafia a few things can happen so that the town comes out ahead: 1.) The first day one of the detectives investigates the Mayor, another one or another day Pardoner. If they turn up innocent they either truly are, or happen to be Godfathers. If they turn up guilty well thats a quick Mafia death. 2.) The detectives never do it, but if the Mayor that was elected was supposed to be highly competent the smart townies can trap him if they think he is doing a bad job. As a competent Mayor, certain actions would be expected and if they aren't doing them even when it HAS to be best for the town well then they are Mafia or useless. 3.) You elect both a really smart Mayor and really smart Pardoner, and as long as both aren't Mafia the power struggle that will ensue would be hurtful if even one of them is Mafia. What those 3 are saying is that they think they are SMART enough to lead the town, and in the Mafia games I've played and admined thats the kind of strategy I would go for as an innocent townie. A Mafia Mayor or Mafia Pardoner can be cornered if you know they have to be thinking logically. Posted in night7/main_page.009 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 15:51 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 14 2008 15:23 qrs wrote: No. You keep saying that, but it's groundless. You're assuming that the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of its people for mayor than the town will, but there is no reason to think that that is the case. 1) Last game, when Chuiu closed the vote, 7/57 townies were candidates. 0/14 mafia were candidates. ([url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251¤tpage=39#763]link[/url]). That worked out fine for them, by the way. 2) It doesn't make sense for the Mafia to put up more than a couple of candidates: a) The more people they put up, the harder it is to influence the vote for any one of them. b) The more people they put up for election, the more people fingers can be pointed at down the line. [quote] The ONLY reason that happened is because the Townies were so fucking BAD. In a game full of good players, the Mafia might have been toasted. With no Mafia Mayor, and no Mafia Pardoner, and the Mafia not electing to try and get at least one person in office was a mistake. It makes plenty of sense for the Mafia to put up more than 1 candidate, and when the game starts I may even get the chance to show you why. They dont have to influence the vote for any one candidate, they just need to start a bandwagon to get townies to believe it's the right choice. Even if they put up 3 people, in a game of 128 and possibly 6 to 7 candidates it will still take time and a lot of convincing to get caught. [quote] Townies, on the other hand, don't have to worry about these things. 3) You don't seem to realize that your reasoning cuts both ways: Sure, if you're right, and the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the town, the odds favor voting for you, but if you're wrong, and the town will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the Mafia, the odds favor voting for someone other than you. 4) In any case, none of that is what I was saying in my above post. I said this: on that 1/7 chance that you are Mafia, you've locked yourself into being the Mafia candidate. That makes it slightly more likely, that between you and another candidate, you are the Mafioso. For argument's sake, take two people A and B. Assume the Mafia has at most one candidate. A has declared his candidacy beforehand. If neither is Mafia, that is that. If A is Mafia (1/7 chance), A is the Mafia candidate. If B is Mafia and A is not (~6/49 chance), B is the Mafia candidate. If both are Mafia (~1/49), A is the Mafia candidate, because he's already locked himself in. So everything else being equal, it is more likely that A is the Mafia's candidate. You are A. You will probably not be Mafia (like any other given person), but everything else being equal, you are slightly more likely to be a Mafia candidate than someone else who is running.[/QUOTE] 3 - complete bullshit. There are no odds when it comes to voting for Mayor, especially if the last game is any proof. 4 - also complete crap. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.009 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:09 Ace wrote:I didn't say having an innocent Mayor is nonsense obviously, what I was trying to get across is picking a Mayor based on whether they are innocent or not at the beginning is an incredibly stupid idea that will surely get the town into a major spot of trouble. Just simply go for the best leaders that make logical decisions and you dont need to care if they are innocent or not, because you can get out of a bad situation if they end up a Mafia mayor. Even without a Mayor, the Town has Elders and Vigis. Sure we may lose a Mayor, but it surely isn't game over or even close. Really, the ideal setup to winning for the Townies is to have a competent leader that can convince even the most die hard Townies to vote the right way, and be smart about catching Mafia. We don't need to know who the detectives are until a certain point - that's called roleclaiming which is a really good strategy when done right. All the DTs, if smart wouldnt all investigate the Mayor - some would surely hit the Pardoner or even a random townie acting stupid. I've admined and played this game enough to know that when it comes to voting for Mayor trying to pick out who is innocent is a major waste of time unless someone messes up. Just going with "kill multiple birds with one stone" strats forces the Mafia's hand and gets the ball rolling for the townies to survive. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.009 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:10 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:06 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 14 2008 15:51 ahrara_ wrote: [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 14:38 qrs wrote: OK, so far fusion, caller, and Empyrean have all said that they will run for mayor no matter what. That means that if they end up mafioso, the Mafia practically has to put them up for election, otherwise it will be clear that they are Mafia (why else wouldn't they run). IOW, if the Mafia puts up, say, two candidates, and any of these three are in the Mafia, he will be one of the two candidates. Something to keep in mind.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make any logical sense. How would withdrawing their candidacy in any way make them look like scum?[/QUOTE] The point is: they have said they are running. They have no reason to change that, unless they answer to someone else.[/QUOTE] ok look to make this even simpler: I'm running for Mayor also. See? Now even if any of us are Mafia we'll still run for Mayor and you can't figure anything out. Your logic isn't adding up. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.009 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:16 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:10 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 14 2008 15:51 Ace wrote: 3 - complete bullshit. There are no odds when it comes to voting for Mayor, especially if the last game is any proof.[/QUOTE] Good, you agree with me. fusionsdf was the one who was saying that there were odds, based on certain assumptions of his. I pointed out that under different assumptions, the odds would point in the other direction. Honestly, I don't think that there's a really strong basis for either set of assumptions. ok good. [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] 4 - also complete crap. [/QUOTE]Actually, it's not. Think about it. [/QUOTE] I said 4 was crap because this is what it boils down to: The Townies are electing a Mayor and Pardoner based on popularity, intelligence, and whether they think he/she isn't Mafia. The Mafia are electing a Mafia Mayor, or a dumb Townie who is just as good as a Mafia Mayor. Surely, you can see there are no odds to think about here. The number of Mafia do not matter. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.009 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:18 Ace wrote:ok drop it, I'm done [IMG]/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.010 [QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:33 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 14 2008 16:26 qrs wrote: [QUOTE] On March 14 2008 16:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: the games hasnt even started and you're already pointing fingers. cmon.[/QUOTE]lol, isn't that the point of the game? [/QUOTE] um...no it isn't. lol @ 1st lynch request. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.010 [QUOTE]On March 15 2008 01:19 Ace wrote:Mayor isn't useless for Mafia, trust me. Pardoner can get away with Pardoning Mafia if they are slick, and sometimes Vigis act dumb and go off revenge killing (cuz someone voted for them to get lynched) This game will be interesting.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.019 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:06 Ace wrote:I nominate myself as a mayoral candidate [IMG]/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] I've played and admined Mafia games before, know how powerful both Mayor and Pardoner roles can be in the right hands, and I'm pretty smart too. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.019 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:13 Ace wrote:Ghar just posted a strategy that tends to work pretty well, assuming there are no Godfather roles in the game (there aren't). Also added to that, whoever gets Mayor knows who the bodyguards are. Clearly, they should PM all the Bodyguards and set them all up to know each other's ID. This way the Town has a starting force of innocents off the bat. Also, even if a Mafia Mayor does this, the Bodyguards should all double check with each other in PM land, and assume that if the Mayor is not proven innocent by a DT soon, he is possibly lying about one of his BGs being legit - I've done this strat in the past as a Godfather Mafia Mayor. With the above strategy, we can easily have a group of innocent Townies assembled off the bat, even with a Mafia Mayor he'd have to put some of the Townies into power doing this. It's a good strat to start the Townies off on a good foot. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.020 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:40 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:29 Ghar wrote: More ideas since the thread just got quiet Though at the moment I'm still contemplating whether it's beneficial to start weeding numbers quickly, or wait until a relatively sure kill before attacking. Thoughts and suggestions guys?[/QUOTE] I like to start the game off with weeding out strats that are easy to follow - this controls discussion and gives everyone focal points. One of the biggest reasons the Townies always lose is because they start posting nonsense, arguing about retarded shit, revenge voting, and seem to listen to the most nonsense posts for voting someone to get lynched. With weeding strats: 1.) We keep the focus on a few people 2.) allows the Detectives to split up their work. If they see the town gunning for some people, they can investigate OTHER people. This is a major help. 3.) Mafia members can no longer sit back and watch the town kill themselves - they have to get in on discussions. This way, they are in the spotlight just like we need them to be. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.020 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:50 Ace wrote:I agree with the confirming roles to Mayor part once he's found innocent, and after the Mayor the Pardoner should be investigated also asap. What I meant by splitting work is that once the town has 2 or 3 targets for lynching the people caught in voting patterns (or "unvoting") patterns should be examined asap instead of the suspects because the Town will, and should continue to hone in on them. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.020 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:55 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 16:52 ahrara_ wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] From there a team can be developed, people with roles should PM the mayor, and he sends detectives to investigate them to be sure. Only mafia would fake roles, so investigating them serves as hard proof of their legit role, or will reveal a mafia faking a role.[/QUOTE] Ghar, your plan is seriously flawed. I don't think you've thought this through, which is why I'm going to encourage people not to vote for you. If there was a contest over best election poster however, you'd win by a landslide. There are four detectives. They can use their role finding abilities twice in the game, and once a day. However, noone knows who the detectives are. A mafia mayor could have a fellow mobster, even two, pretend to be detectives and report that you're the mayor. You could have the detectives detect the detectives, but that'd cause the same problem, and the real detectives would be using their abilities in vain. So it's not that easy, but at least it's better than what FS did. edit: For chrissake, if you're going to run for mayor, do more than a half-assed job. Can't be worse than fakesteve doesn't cut it.[/QUOTE] I'm sure you didn't read his entire post, because the strategy makes a lot of sense EVEN when the Mayor is Mafia because it forces the Mayor to do some work that benefits the Town.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.021 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:08 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:02 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: See, all this business behind what strategy is best for the future mayor is all based on the honor code and who's being honest. Seriously, I think it's best to put the strategy behind us until the first day/night cycle is done just to see how the important roles act/react to events happening, in particular the mayor.[/QUOTE] Oh lord... Look, just throwing everyone in the pit,waiting for the Mafia to kill 9 ppl and then seeing "what happens" is not always a good strategy. If we do the plan Ghar suggested, along with myself then we have a starting point which is CRUCIAL for the town. If ALL the Townies know the Strategy beforehand, and ALL the Mafia knows it then we've eliminated a lot of random elements and are now in a position where everyone knows the next moves that the Townies need to win, and the Mafia need to stop us from doing so. With that in mind and clues from the Day/Night posts, we can now trap Mafia members because we know clearly how any logical Innocent person would act. What you just posted pretty much asks us to commit suicide (see last game). [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.021 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:11 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:04 ahrara_ wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] I'm sure you didn't read his entire post, because the strategy makes a lot of sense EVEN when the Mayor is Mafia because it forces the Mayor to do some work that benefits the Town.[/QUOTE] I don't understand. If the mayor is mafia, and he convinces the real detectives to find out people's roles for him, then it's pretty much game over. If he's not mafia, he can't absolutely trust the detectives, because the mafia could be faking 4 detectives and reporting mob members as having the roles. BTW Ghar, I didn't mean you were half-assing it. I mean, well, it's clear the liquidians I'm talking about.[/QUOTE] Except that the Mayor is investigated FIRST so the real DTs are going to know if he's dirty or clean ASAP. There is a plan for the Mayor to figure out if the DTs are lying or not, and I won't post that here until later. The Mafia also isn't crazy enough to fake FOUR people. That would be ridiculously stupid. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.022 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:36 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:22 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 18 2008 17:14 Ghar wrote: You'll be able to know if there are fake detectives if the mayor suddenly has more than 4 people report to him.[/QUOTE] 2.) Towny mayor: This is hard. Early on, you can't really trust who's who and the mayor doesn't know who the fake detectives are. Later on, however, if 4 of those 6 report in again when asked, then it becomes somewhat easier to discern people. If more than 4, then ask for a third time. Those who do report in are fakes then. However, you do this at the expense of losing all your detective reports for the game, so do this at your own risk. [/QUOTE] In scenario 2, The Mayor immediately role claims for all 6. Essentially, he says 6 people reported and only 4 can be DTS, and puts ALL the names into public. Now the Town has 2 sure fire Mafia, the Medics can easily see who they should think about saving, and the Mafia is fucked because if they don't kill any of the real DTs at night they live to investigate another night. If they DO kill any of the DTs, then that just tightens the noose on the other 2 Mafia posing DTs. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.022 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:42 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:31 ahrara_ wrote: Ok ACE, I think Ghar's already posted your plan. So as I understand it, it's up for a real detective to report the mayor as mafia in case he is mafia. To verify this, we lynch said detective (as he's going to get killed anyway if he's real) to see if he's telling the truth. If he wasn't, that's one mafia down. If he was, then we lynch the mayor next. From there on, the mayor does his best to verify the other roles. I buy it so far, but I'll think about it before I vote. For now anyway, my vote is leading towards Ghar, because it's becoming more apparent to me how much rests on the mayor's shoulders, and Ghar's the only one who's given us a solid strategy. I also don't think he's mafia because of how fast his candidacy came up. I agree with bumatlarge. If I were mob, I wouldn't go run for mayor on a whim the moment the game starts. [/QUOTE] don't lynch the DT - if he's legit let the Mafia have to kill him and waste killing power. Or, let another DT verify him. In this case if a Mafia member poses DT we have a sure fire place to nab them off of now.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.022 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 17:46 Ace wrote:Oh and about the quote in Ghar's profile: All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" -- Lieutenant General Lewis B."Chesty" Puller (when surrounded by 8 enemy divisions) - United States Marine Corps[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.023 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 18:45 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 18:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: [QUOTE] On March 18 2008 18:27 Evilmonkey. wrote: I was tickled when I saw that I had two pms, one being from Randombum. If he took the time to present his case to everyone, then he has the time to be a good mayor. He looks to have my vote.[/QUOTE] the problem with that is it was rather inefficient to send pms like that to everyone, and it wasn't a personal request; the time it took to send out the same pm to everyone seems to be the main reason people are even considering to vote for him, and that is a rather silly way to vote for the mayor. it would have been much simpler had he just announced his running for mayor in the thread, which points to him not being the best person for mayor. it's not only about who might be mafia, it's about who is best for the job.[/QUOTE] Great points here. Also I'm not going to vote for Araav because he made a script. And his points for running for Mayor were not good enough in my eyes. Just as an aide to future voters and other games when it comes to Mayor voting, here is my strategy: You have no idea who is guilty or innocent Day 1. Even with the clues, it's all speculation unless we find a 100% concrete link. With this rule in mind whether or not someone is Mafia or Innocent can't be the crux of your decision. Base it off of who seems intelligent,logical and active enough to help the Town survive. Anyone with a plan is better than someone without one even if their plan sucks - that way we have somewhere to start off debating which as I've stated numerous times is critical. Voting for someone based on logic is our best defense. Even with a Mafia Mayor, we all know how to discern when someone is acting irrationally aka against the best interest of the Town. With this in mind we can easily trap a Mafia Mayor, and even force them to do work that benefits the Town asap like The Bodyguard linking strat I posted earlier. Even better is that this kind of plan works with the Pardoner also [IMG]/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] As of now I'm voting for Ghar to be Mayor, and if that fails I hope he becomes Pardoner. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.023 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 18:50 Ace wrote:ugh ok you people are really either acting slightly on drugs or something. HOW does Araav knowing programming languages benefit us? Seriously ask yourself that. I know C/C++, Java, and Assembly but that really won't help me find Mafia members now will it?[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.025 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote:WHOA WAIT WAIT WAIT HAS NO ONE READ MY POSTS!? You guys are starting to use a lot of faulty logic! I'm going to get to all of it later with a large post, but for now Araav I can't believe you would say that Ghar doesn't have a convincing plan when NO ONE else even has a plan. And you want to be Mayor? Sorry, but that post actually gave me very good reason not to vote for you. "Lynch me to find out" does not mean he doesn't care about the Town - you are reaching really far into nothing with that statement. Ghar is the only person so far that has a solid plan and I've used plans similar to it in other games - it works. Empryean has no business being Mayor or Pardoner. That move shows incredibly bad strategic thinking for a Townie and would be of no use to us. Otherwise he is possibly a Mafia in disguise trying to force the town's hand - either way he doesn't belong in either role. As for you people asking about the DT plan: If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered. Also remember if we DO lose some DT roles somehow - we have Jacks. These players can be backup DTs if need be, so don't think we'd be dead asap because we lost 1 or 2 detectives somehow. I've said it before the Town needs focus, and Ghar's plan is a good place to start for this theme to work. Also, I am running for Mayor. I said it before but don't think I made it obvious. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.025 [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 23:30 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 23:12 araav wrote: [QUOTE] On March 18 2008 23:03 Ghar wrote: [QUOTE]How would you know they are actually DTs though, could just as easily be mafia saying "hay, I checked you out, you're legit, and I'm a DT". Given that would mean more than four people would message you, but you still wouldn't know who is lying. Not to mention of not all DTs are active, or follow the plan.[/QUOTE] There are a few things I would ask them to do before I'd be satisfied they're legit. I won't disclose that at the moment in case mafia make a counter strategy. [QUOTE]let's analyze a bit. In case you happen to be a mafia and a detective finds it out, mafia sacrifies a simple member to a town's ability to have extra mafia lynches. sounds very appealing from mafia's perspective. so this is NOT a good, convincing plan. And you still did nothing for me not to suspect you.[/QUOTE] It's better than having a mafia mayor leading people to death. What I'm aiming for though is the best case scenario to set up a network of people with roles, that gives the best chance at winning. I'm not trying to convince you, I said already, all claims of not being mafia are moot. I'm providing a strategy to victory, because that's more feasible than trying to clear a name that can't be cleared at the moment[/QUOTE] you so-called strategy is simply too superficial and could easily move to a Mayor lose for the town. At this stage of the game, it is best to vote for people who seem towny - i.e. DO not seem suspicious AT ALL: no clue-interpretations about them, no stupid moves (like Empy did)[/QUOTE] What the hell? You can NOT be serious with this post? This post is further showing me NOT to vote for you as Mayor. Come on, how can anyone not see this post says exactly why you shouldn't be in a Mayor or Pardoner role? You're accusing the guy off of 1 Day of clues when NO ONE can clear his or her name right now, and NO ONE can be convicted at all because there isn't enough evidence and no DT can do anything. You're jumping too far to conclusions way too fast with little evidence, that is BAD. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.025 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:12 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 18 2008 23:45 Hittegods wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote: WHOA WAIT WAIT WAIT HAS NO ONE READ MY POSTS!? If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't that mean outing the four real DTs though? For the price of one mafia member they could possibly get a list of all DTs? Unless the mayor plans on doing all the investigation himself, which could work I guess. Also, even if Empyrean did a bad move and outed himself, wouldn't an incompetent DT be better for the town, than a dead one? [/QUOTE] this is from a past post I made about outting the real DTs: [QUOTE] In scenario 2, The Mayor immediately role claims for all 6. Essentially, he says 6 people reported and only 4 can be DTS, and puts ALL the names into public. Now the Town has 2 sure fire Mafia, the Medics can easily see who they should think about saving, and the Mafia is fucked because if they don't kill any of the real DTs at night they live to investigate another night. If they DO kill any of the DTs, then that just tightens the noose on the other 2 Mafia posing DTs. [/QUOTE] It's part of a role claiming strategy. Take all that info, and now add the medics. With 4 DTs or possibly more, the Town has 2 major advantages: 1.) Some people are clearly lying 2.) The medics have a list of people that need protecting There is also another part to this strategy I'm going to post soon [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.025 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:15 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:09 Amber[LighT] wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote: If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered. . [/QUOTE] Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies. [/QUOTE] Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role? Anyone faking DT has to be Mafia, because any Townie doing that after reading all these posts explaining the plan would realize they are hurting the Town by doing so. also, this is not in any way Townies vs Townies. At all. More so it's the uninformed majority vs the informed minority, and one of the ways to get around that trend is to share info with those that we 100% know is innocent. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:45 Ace wrote:The Bodyguard Plan This is a strategy I've used in the past to win games, and it works very well if even a slight majority of the main players involved use it. The base of this plan lends itself to the fact that no innocent Townie knows for sure who else is innocent or what roles they are. Also is the fact that the main disadvantage the Town has is lack of information, whereas our main advantage is numbers. Combining these two things is the Bodyguard Plan. At the start of the game, the only non-Mafia/elected roles that any other player can possibly know for sure is a Bodyguard. The Mayor receives this info once elected into office. This plan is best with an innocent Mayor, but it also forces a Mafia Mayor to help the town in the event he/she is ever elected. When the Mayor is elected, their first plan of action should be to PM all the Bodyguards each other's identities. This pus information into the hands of the Townies that is critical. Assume there are 7 bodyguards. The Mayor PMs all of them the identity of the other 6. All of them then PM each other to 1: confirm they got a PM stating they are the bodyguard from the Mayor 2: make sure they ALL have the same list of Bodyguards In the case of an Innocent Mayor doing this, we have 7 townies all on the same side off the jump and this will be a major help to the Town if they all know the roles of 6 other innocents asap. In the case of a Mafia Mayor he could actually try and add a Mafia member to the list of Bodyguards or ignore a real Bodyguard - and this is where the true failsafe in the plan comes in. Failsafe: Remember, all Bodyguards SHOULD get that PM. If any of the Bodyguards don't get it then they should know something is clearly fishy and should investigate hastily. The Mayor would be investigated from Day 1, so the Town will know for sure if he/she is innocent or not which will allow the Bodyguards to know they can or can't trust the Mayor. If the Mayor turns out dirty, the Bodyguards will clearly speak up asap. If the Mayor is legit, then that Bodyguard list is 100% legit and ensures we have a solid base to start from. In summary the idea of this plan is self checking: 1.) The Bodyguards know they have to get a PM 2.) The Mayor knows they have to PM the Bodyguards the Bodyguard list 3.) The Bodyguards PM each other to check their lists 4.) The Mayor also knows that they will be investigated asap by a DT If the Mayor tends to be Mafia and releases a corrupted list, then the BGs will speak up and name the people on the list. The DTs paying attention to this, investigate the names. In the case of an innocent Mayor this 100% guarantees us safety, in the case of a Mafia Mayor it takes us at worst 2 days to clean up the mess. This is my plan of action to start the game off. In the event the list is released publicly, the best part of this plan is that the spotlight is taken off of the Detectives and put on the Bodyguards. This allows the Detectives to stay quiet, and for the Medics to have a list of people they need to watch. Remember what I stated earlier - the Town's main disadvantage is that we lack information and this plan serves to rectify that while maximizing our main advantage - numbers. Once the base has been formed (Mayors + Bodyguards) we can start generating a list of suspects together, and figuring out roles down the road. To succeed the Town needs a strong start, and this plan is one of such.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:45 Ace wrote:If you have any questions about the plan post it PUBLICLY so we can discuss it.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:46 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:28 L wrote: [QUOTE] Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role?[/QUOTE] Veteran looking to absorb hits? Jack? Etc.[/QUOTE] But why would they PM that info to the Mayor? That would cause confusion that the Town doesn't need. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:49 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:28 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 18 2008 18:50 Ace wrote: ugh ok you people are really either acting slightly on drugs or something. HOW does Araav knowing programming languages benefit us? Seriously ask yourself that. I know C/C++, Java, and Assembly but that really won't help me find Mafia members now will it?[/QUOTE] Well, keeping track of the profiles, etc. does benefit us, but more to the point, he bothered to do it. If he was Mafia, that would be a questionable move: who knows how long it would take for us to get the information together otherwise? Therefore I think that araav's using his programming skills to help the town is an indication that he is a towny.[/QUOTE] Honestly look, if I was Mafia I'd also be going out of my way to do stuff to prove it benefits the Town. The point of the matter is you guys are basing your votes off something that has NOTHING to do with his skills at playing the game, it's just that he bothered to do it. He hasn't even posted a plan of action, all he has done is code something and you guys are ready to vote for him. Sorry, I've played this game way too many times and while it doesn't paint araav as Innocent or Mafia, it surely makes me question his ability to lead the town when their are better candidates out there. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:50 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 00:15 Ace wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 00:09 Amber[LighT] wrote: [QUOTE]On March 18 2008 23:26 Ace wrote: If more than 4 people PM Ghar about being DT thats GREAT for the Town. Because now we'd have a suspect list and people caught false role claiming meaning we certainly have some Mafia cornered. . [/QUOTE] Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies. [/QUOTE] Why would ANY Townie that isn't a moron claim the DT role? Anyone faking DT has to be Mafia, because any Townie doing that after reading all these posts explaining the plan would realize they are hurting the Town by doing so. also, this is not in any way Townies vs Townies. At all. More so it's the uninformed majority vs the informed minority, and one of the ways to get around that trend is to share info with those that we 100% know is innocent. [/QUOTE] lol did you play last game?[/QUOTE] I read it, and thats the exact situation I'm trying to avoid this time around. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:14 Ace wrote:Vote count: LastRomantic - aZnvaLiaNce(1) SoMuchBetter - SoMuchBetter(1) randombum - Dr.Dragoon,Alethios,G.s)Naruto,Sadir,fanatacist,Bockit,BWdero,Ninja4ever(8) fusionsdf - Plexa,Zbir,Kau(3) Plexa - ssj100,Seifu(2) SonuvBob - LTT,Joxxor,wurm,Heros)Pink(4) Ghar - falcynn,Ace,ahrara,Pangolin,GranDim,Mandalor,Amber[Light],rpf(8) araav - meta,SonuvBob,RowdierBob,Klive5ive,xDark.Carnivalx,Naib,Neax,Energies,qrs(9) Empyrean - Caller,Eti307,Showtime,MTF,BloodyCobbler,NatsuTerran,RtS)NightMare(7) Ace- Ghar,Spoinka(2) [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:15 Ace wrote:whoops sorry, had this post waiting but didnt catch Nightmare's in time[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.026 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:06 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 00:45 Ace wrote: The Bodyguard Plan...[/QUOTE] Now, that sounds like a good plan. Let me go you one better (unless this is what you meant): after the bodyguards are confirmed, let the mayor release one of their names publically. If it's a lie, the other bodyguards can call it. Now we have a guaranteed towny and all the detectives, etc. can PM their roles to him. In turn, he can forward them to the other bodyguards, so that even if the Mafia kills him, there will still be townies who know the important roles and can co-ordinate. I'll consider switching my vote to you, but it doesn't matter that much. We can follow your plan whether or not you are the mayor.[/QUOTE] Now you're seeing it the way I hoped everyone would. And yes, whether or not I am Mayor I would hope this plan or something even better is followed![/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.027 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:39 Ace wrote:I don't understand why anyone would suspect Ghar. Even worse, BWdero why are you suspecting him just because others are? We barely have any clues, and he hasn't done anything through his posts that can target him as Mafia. Please people, lets not get into the practice of bandwagon suspicion so early. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.027 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:Even if they pointed to him more than slightly, at least we know what his plan is and where his logic lies. If he ever started acting out of character or illogical, ie blatantly doing something that hinders the town we'd know for sure something is fishy about him. With almost everyone else we have no idea what they are going to do. And when we have no idea what they can do or plan to do, they are less accountable and there is more room for "accidents" and "oops" moments. At least with Ghar we've got a guy thats willing to explain his actions upfront, his plan, and even has ideas of what to do in case it does not work. FAR better than what anyone else is offering right now. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.027 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 01:54 Ace wrote:Well I'm not trying to be modest here lol. Also, even though clues may point to a certain person as a Townie there are 2 things that should inspire your votes when lynching time arrives: 1.) Clues and discussions about them 2.) What people post and who they vote for, but more importantly what they DONT post Number 2 is going to help you a lot more than #1 in the long run. I've already got a list of everyone who's posted in this thread, who they voted for, and comments about everyone's thinking patterns. Once I start to see people act fishy, or incredibly stupid I'll check it against my info and see whats up and vote accordingly. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.027 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 02:10 Ace wrote:Just as an exercise in discussion and thinking, what clue points to Ghar, and on a scale of 1-10 how would you rate it's relevance?[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.027 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 02:28 Ace wrote:Actually I'm hoping a lot of people will do it, because that way all of us get to see what kind of thinking patterns everyone else uses. I posted the quote just so you guys know exactly where his quote comes from, not because I think he is Mafia at all. 8 people in his way, and 8 enemy divisions is a very far reach right now. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.028 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 02:50 Ace wrote:Klive, honestly you are posting complete horse shit right now. But I won't debate that right now - that only leads to confusion among the Town and takes away from what we need to do right now - vote for a Mayor. Either way, you really have no solid arguments as to why Ghar shouldn't be Mayor. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.028 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 02:51 Ace wrote:Also, please explain to me how if a Mafia Mayor carries out the BodyGuard plan, he will wield great power. I'm serious, I want to hear it so that we can all analyze the plan in the open and work out any questions or flaws that can be exploited. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.028 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:07 Ace wrote:Actually following the plan hurts the Mafia. 1.) Remember what I said, all Bodyguards now know each other's ID + The Mayor. Once the Mayor is investigated, if no one speaks up obviously he has to be legit. I doubt any DT that investigates the Mayor and finds him guilty would stay quiet in fear of their death - that would be selfish and harm the Town. 2.) Even so, let's assume that NO detectives investigate the Mayor. Either way with 7 people and The Mayor, thats a lot of communication going on to find Mafia. At some point, and I'm hoping for this, the Bodyguards will have to question the Mayors decisions. Even better, they do this publicly. The Mayor has to defend certain actions, and if he is acting suspicious with no good reason something is up. In 1, whether or not the Mayor is innocent is going to be found out very fast. In 2, the Mayor in the case of being Mafia even if not found out has the added task of killing innocents while appearing to do good by 7 other people who also know each other, and that they are all 100% innocent (refer back to the plan to find out how). So how can a Mafia Mayor who follows the Bodyguard Plan still harm the Town? Possibly by trying to trick the Bodyguards into doing something horrible, but with 7 ppl that's going to be hard because that isn't enough for mob mentality to take over - and I doubt all of them would be that gullible. The plan works even if the Mayor doesn't mess with the list - we get a verified Mayor and his allies by the time day 2 starts. How is that not good enough?[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.028 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:13 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 02:59 Lysithea wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 02:13 Lysithea wrote: ... If Empyrean is a DT he could be very valuable as pardoner but it's something about the whole thing that just feels out of place. I'm tempted to vote for him, not for mayor but as pardoner. Wish we could have more campaigning from his side. My question to all of you is: would it be beneficial enough for mafia to even attempt the stunt empyrean is employing? Would it be reasonable? I'm asking cause I'm not sure whether to vote for Empyrean or someone else in the case of me voting for a pardoner spot. ...[/QUOTE] Reposting this part from my own post since I really want peoples thoughts on this.[/QUOTE] Ok here's my take - it would be a pretty good idea from a Mafia standpoint. 1.) Empryean did very well last game 2.) For some reason, people think the probability of him being Mafia again has changed when it really hasn't 3.) He claims a role that is important and can't be verified right now 4.) Most importantly, it adds confusion to the game 4 is the prime reason that if I were Mafia, it would be a great tool. People trust Empryean, and if another DT comes and investigates him well they'd be hard pressed to prove it - and now the Mafia knows another DT role with nothing else weighing in on their decisions aka an easy kill. Thats an element of confusion that takes away from the main focus, and the easiest way for the Mafia to win is to confuse the Townies. I'm not saying Empryean is Mafia, but that was a very risky move. There was no point in revealing his alleged role so early in the game. Maybe he's afraid that he'd be killed early and is innocent after all - and if that's the case for someone so smart he should have provided a better angle of campaigning. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.029 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:33 Ace wrote:by "debate that" I meant your issues with Ghar. Sorry if I wasn't more clear, and sorry for the insult [IMG]/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] Getting rid of double lynches is not going to matter to the Mafia UNLESS we obviously have Townies that are clearly on the right path - that point is moot. Double lynching is essentially only good for when we have a situation where it's an EITHER/OR case. Example: Only 1 Medic is left alive, and 2 people claim the role. With only Medic no one has a reliable chance of living at night anyway, and one of these people is lying and the town somehow can't decide. Call for the Double lynch because it destroys the Mafia killing power. The Detectives being scared to reveal their roles would hurt the town. And I'm betting that we've got some smart, rational detectives on our side. Surely, to save the Town they'd give themselves up. But not only that, role claiming at the right time will screw the Mafia over. This is something I wanted to reveal later, but I'll partially post it now: While the Mafia knows each other and have the advantage of secrecy, they also lack information - namely roles. With this in mind, whenever a role that is crucial is publicly revealed they usually want to kill them - sometimes. Where does that sometimes pop up? When they damn well know that Medics will protect that target at all costs. Which means that they'd have to send a lot of killing power to get rid of that person. Which also means they cant kill as many people that very night which is good for the town. That 1 detective could actually save a couple of lives. hold on - it gets better. I mentioned earlier on the forum something along the lines of Mafia have it easy when their are only a couple of really good targets to kill. When you add in like 5 or 6 good targets, they have an issue. If the Town knows that 5 or 6 of their best could possibly be killed, the Medics know that. And the Mafia knows that the Medics know that. So they are somewhat stuck in a rut as they definitely can't kill ALL of them, and they don't know which ones are getting protected. Wait. There's on more good part to this. We have Jacks. Any DT that is playing this game can realize that even if they died, we have Jacks that could replace them if need be. I doubt anyone is playing THAT selfish and is worried that somehow role claiming at the right time to help the town with critical information is a bad choice. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.029 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:39 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:24 randombum wrote: Ace the bodyguard plan is not faulty, but merely that even if implemented its not that great. True that is 7 people who are working together, but 10(mayorx4) will not be able to change much with 130 people voting. It is FAR more important for information to be shared with everybody. (not who are bodyguards but other information.) The mafia or pardoner's position should be the mouthpieces of the town. Detectives (don't have to reveal their detective status) can send information to mayor. The mayor repeats it to the town. Thereby giving the town the ability hear all the information from everyone, but keeping those people anonymous. So the more involved people do not have to share their opinions publicly. This keeps our active people alive, but they ideas are still shared. [/QUOTE] I agree with some of this randombum. The Bodyguard plan is not the full plan I would use, it's just a start that gets information around and gets the town into a good setting. Whether or not the BG roles need to be revealed is a different issue and I think it's worth telling at a certain time. In most Mafia games, the town does something called Role Claiming which is a great thing to do. It brings out conflicts because surely Mafia members need to claim SOMETHING. However, the Mayor + BodyGuards DO have the power to change the voting. Remember, if everyone knows that the plan is being followed and nothing comes out about a guilty mayor, then they must be innocent. And if the innocent Mayor has a committee of innocents, that drops the suspect list down to 122, gets information flowing, and eliminates red herrings in clue posts. Surely, that is a much better plan than what we have now? wait, what DO we have now?[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.029 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:47 Ace wrote:The problem with just revealing one Bodyguard is that it's too easy of a target if the Mafia have no one else they need to kill asap. However, what we can do is just let the Mayor speak for "the committee" once he's known to be innocent. At that point, the BGs don't have to be revealed yet. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.030 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:51 Ace wrote:Ok so as an addendum to the plan: Once the Mayor is confirmed innocent, he/she is the mouthpiece of the committe (Mayor + BGs). After that, by day 2 we have a new course of action: check clues, look for suspects. Investigate the Pardoner. Any innocents can PM the Mayor their role, who will share this with the committee. randombum: I'll talk more about role claiming at a later date.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.030 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 04:02 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 03:57 Falcynn wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 03:54 zeks wrote: Isn't it more advantageous to have both the mayor and pardoner on the same "line"? Should we consider that when voting...like making a sure a pair of mayor-pardoner that can work together well?[/QUOTE]To be honest the pardoner seems like a useless position for a towny until maybe really really late in the game. The only good thing that comes from granting someone Pardoner status is the bodyguard protection, so we don't really need a pardoner who works well with the mayor. We just need to put a towny that we want to keep protected.[/QUOTE] Pardoner is actually very powerful if the Town is somehow mob voting and the Pardoner figures out in time if something is fishy. The Pardoner should pretty much be treated as a second Mayor, since that person should also be pretty good at leading the Town and figuring things out. And yes, the last point that it should be someone we want to protect should be taken into account. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.030 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 04:28 Ace wrote:current vote count that I have: LastRomantic - aznvaliance (1) Empyrean - LastRomantic, Meta,Eti307,Showtime,MTF,BloodyC0bbler,RST Nightmare,NatsuTerran,Solosteer,Jim Tudor,nemy,decafchicken (13) Ace - CDRdude,Joxxor,Ghar,spoinka,Hittegods,Hollander,Naib,useless,GeneralStan,Shadowdrgn, Lysithea,Falcynn,zeks,Mynock,Caller (15) randombum - Drdragoon,Alethios,G.S)Naruto,Sadir,fanatacist,Bockit,GranDim,Ninja4ever, so no fek,shallow[bay] (10) fusionsdf - plexa,ZBIR (2) plexa - ssj100,Seifu (2) Sonuvbob - LTT.wurm,Heros)Pink (2) Ghar - Ace,ahrara,Pangolin,Mandalor,Amber[Light],rpf,Ziel (7) araav - SonuvBob,RowdierBob,Klive5ive,xdark,Neax,Energies,qsr (7) [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.037 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 07:54 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 05:13 Falcynn wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 05:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd just like to say something about the bodyguard plan with one bodyguard stepping up front to accept everyone's roles; This could easily be done by the mafia too if the mayor is a mafia member. Mafia could fake being a bodyguard and thus it's not really any better then just sending the roles to the mayor. [/QUOTE] If there are 7 bodyguards and one doesn't get the message he will know something fishy is going on. [/QUOTE]Only the mayor knows who the body guards are, even the bodyguards themselves don't know. So if a bodyguard doesn't get a message...he'll just assume that he's not a bodyguard. [/QUOTE] Hmmm? Not quite. Remember that Chuiu PMs everyone their Bodyguard Roles after elections. If a Bodyguard doesn't get a message something is fishy because he knows the Mayor has to know who he/she is, and that if the Mayor is following the plan they HAVE to PM them. This is the self-checking part of the plan. Also guys, I don't think we need to reveal a bodyguard. Whoever wins mayor will undoubtedly be checked up on by a Detective or a Jack, and if found Mafia will be turned out ASAP. If things are quiet, we can be sure as heck that they must be innocent. The Mayor will be the mouthpiece of "the committee" (Bodyguards + Mayor) [QUOTE] 1. Even if I were mafia, a mafia mayor would still be good for the town. Think about it. Mayors have to act in town interest. If he doesn't, there is mass suspicion against him, and he can be lynched. It's in the town's best interest to always enact double-lynches. If, for some reason, the mayor declines, he's pretty much voted dead the next day. [/QUOTE] It's NOT in The Town's best interest to always enact double lynches - they are only useful is some critical information is going to be revealed or the case where out of the candidates someone is SURELY Mafia and we have exhausted other attempts at figuring it out. [QUOTE] 2. Yes, I am forcing the town's hand. I'm fine with having someone confirm me as a detective, or for having people give me questions to confirm. If I am not mayor or pardoner, I'll be a likely target for the mafia the first night. They're smart enough to put multiple hits on people to ensure bodyguard protection is wasted. If mafia don't target me first night, I'll be able to reveal some more clues until they're forced to kill me or otherwise be revealed. [/QUOTE] I'm not fine with anyone confirming anything based on you - because what you're asking is a system where you are the only person accountable for anything. In other words, you are asking for blind trust and using your abilities in last game (which have 0 bearing on your status this game) as a crutch to get elected - and I'm not for it. [QUOTE] A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town. Why? At the end of the game, it's likely that at least one bodyguard will still be alive. When the playing field has diminished so greatly, I'll be able to ask "What is [player]'s role" which leads to an immediate mafia death. That's why you should vote for me. [/QUOTE] Surely you don't think we are this stupid??? 1.) You role claim at a point no one can justify 2.) You are pretty much asking for blind trust 3.) You have no plan Seriously, if people keep saying you are so good at this game I can't help but ignore how BAD this move is for the town. It's a very selfish move akin to "I don't want to die" and your campaign for Mayor/Pardoner isn't even strong at all. I seriously hope people do not vote for you, because you definitely are not acting like a leader or in the best interest of the town. You did not need any protection at all, and in fact the more I think about your little stunt is actually taking votes away from more qualified candidates like randombum and Ghar. You are acting VERY selfish and I just can't stop repeating it. You have offered no plan and you are pretty much saying "I'm a Detective, Mayor + Detective = win, vote for me". People I URGE you to reconsider your votes for Empyrean, because he is NOT displaying good qualities we need as a Mayor or Pardoner. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.037 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:07 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 07:58 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 07:54 Ace wrote: Also guys, I don't think we need to reveal a bodyguard. Whoever wins mayor will undoubtedly be checked up on by a Detective or a Jack, and if found Mafia will be turned out ASAP. If things are quiet, we can be sure as heck that they must be innocent. The Mayor will be the mouthpiece of "the committee" (Bodyguards + Mayor) [/QUOTE] The problem with that in a nutshell is that you are forcing all the detectives to use one of their two "is-he-Mafia" questions. (If one does not, how do we know that all of them will not?) Surely it's better to save those questions for when we can use them better, and out a single bodyguard (who can be protected or fake-protected).[/QUOTE] I would rather have the DTs use their abilities to verify the Mayor and easing the conscience of the Bodyguards and allowing the Town to start off on a good foot. I also hope people are looking at ahrara's last post. Do not jump to conclusion's people - there is no strong evidence pointing to anyone at all right now. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.038 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:13 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 07:58 Empyrean wrote: 1. Yes. I am acting very selfishly. It still benefits the town to guarantee that I'm a protected position. 2. I support your plan. I probably should have made that more clear. Think about it from a mafia standpoint: If I truly were mafia roleclaiming to be detective, once the election is over and under your plan, the detectives reveal their clues (not publically, of course), it'll be obvious that I wasn't a detective. So why would the mafia risk such a scenario? Quick edit.[/QUOTE] Ok I'll think about it from a Mafia standpoint: 1.) If you are Mafia and you don't win Mayor you could always get away with false claiming for a while if the Mayor isn't good enough to break that trend early 2.)If you are Mafia, you are hoping you do win the election and that by the time you really are investigated things are out of whack. Essentially by the point part 2 comes up, if you were Mayor the Town loses a Mayor, you hope the BGs are in disarray, and any Detective or Jack that says you are Guilty will be labeled as scum or a traitor and won't be killed at night to keep the suspicions on them. Honestly, the more you post about reasons to be Mayor the more I keep thinking about past games I've played and how people have tried stuff like this to pull one over the eyes of the town. Even if you were caught fast, the damage to the town would be sickening. You'd take up a valuable night spot, and a lot of active, smart players would be dead on the first night. And as of now, you are not acting intelligent enough to be Mayor or Pardoner. I don't care what anyone says about last game, this game is showing that your selfish nature and by any means necessary attitude is not good for the Town.period.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.038 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:25 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote: Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role.[/QUOTE] None of us can prove that he is the Detective. Basically, it's all going off of his wording and that we should trust him. That is a MAJOR problem for the Town. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.038 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:29 Ace wrote:Empyrean, your posts are not convincing at all. Sorry, but really like you stated it's an act of blind faith which by itself isn't a bad thing - but claiming that you are a Detective early in the game when it can not be verified hurts the town. You do realize this don't you?[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.039 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:42 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:30 Empyrean wrote: [QUOTE] On March 19 2008 08:25 Ace wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote: Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role.[/QUOTE] None of us can prove that he is the Detective. Basically, it's all going off of his wording and that we should trust him. That is a MAJOR problem for the Town. [/QUOTE] My problem with your candidacy is that the same thing could apply. You could be mafia as well, and all we have is your word. I'm basically going to be adopting a similar plan, so why not vote for the candidate who actually has a role? (Of course, you may as well.) Also, I don't agree with the bodyguard plan qrs posted wholly - if the mayor were mafia, he could have a mafia member "reveal" that he was a bodyguard, and then the mafia would know the player's jobs/plan/etc., as well as waste a significant amount of paramedic protection. That's why I think that we should investigate any person who claims bodyguard first. But seriously. If I'm elected, just get other detectives to check my role. The mafia will certainly fake some detectives, but I have ways around that which I can't reveal at the moment because it would compromise the method.[/QUOTE] Obviously ANY of us could be Mafia, stating that isn't going to help figure out anything. The problem I have with you being Mayor is you never offered any kind of plan until today when Ghar and myself posted stuff and starting getting votes - and you were here last night so you saw the original plan Ghar posted and my comments. Even if you somehow missed it - you never revealed that you had a plan until we questioned your candidacy. Voting for a candidate based on a supposed role has NO BENEFIT for the Town. Surely, someone as smart as yourself would have realized that and instead run on the basis of well - being smart, knowing what to do, experience. a plan, something. You did something extremely selfish, and I hate to say it but if you are elected Mayor or even Pardoner we are in a bad spot at the start of the game. Selfish people are horrible for the town - Detectives that won't come forward with critical evidence because they fear death, Medics that refuse to actually protect people that are pretty much a sure fire kill for Mafia, Vets that don't post or contribute at all and instead only vote which means they draw no attention to themselves. Also you are CLEARLY not READING. If you looked at both my plan and qrs's plan you'd realize that the Mayor CANT DO THAT without getting into bad situation. If they false claim the Mayor is a goner, and out of the possible claimers the Town has a sure fire list of suspects which contains a Mafiaso and the detectives are easily going to investigate them. I seriously cant believe you are acting in the best interest of the town when you wont even read other posts that suggest plans of action carefully. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.039 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:46 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 01:28 Ghar wrote: For people that might have missed my plans as mayor, the link is in my profile page. And I support Ace. Don't know if he's towny or not, but we think alike. So should I end up not getting enough votes, Ace would make a nice alternative if we need to combine votes to win.[/QUOTE] Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink[/QUOTE] I'm defending him because I think he's posting very logical examples of ways to help the Town, and while I can't 100% verify him being innocent, I know when I see something that helps the Town. And Empyrean isn't helping the Town, in fact he is adding a lot of confusion to this election which is something we do not need as a Town. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.039 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:49 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:44 HotZhot wrote: P.S2: Ace you seem to want the mayor position alot, I wonder why...[/QUOTE] Because I know I'm good enough to help the Town win in that position. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.040 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:51 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:48 HotZhot wrote: He is the new Tracil IMO, are you Tracil Ace? would fit if he got mafia rol, lol[/QUOTE] hahaha look at my profile - been here since 2002. I'm NOT the new Tracil [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.040 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:02 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 08:57 Kau wrote: Ace: About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like: mafia 1 mafia 2 mafia 3 bodyguard # Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know. Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent?[/QUOTE] They can't because all the other Bodyguards that didn't get a PM would know something is wrong. In the event that they do that, it just helps the town because we can just apply all clues and DT/Jack power to that list of suspects and catch the Mafia asap. No fake detective is going to spring forward and state the Mayor is innocent because they run the risk at having a real detective also step forward and once again we are back to place where we have confirmed a situation with at least 1 suspect as Mafia (because someone is lying) and a sure fire Mafia lynching. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.040 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:07 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:04 Empyrean wrote: Especially since once the real bodyguards complain that they didn't get a PM, other mafia can as well.[/QUOTE] And if the Mayor is innocent he'd (which would be confirmed by the DTs silence) then those stupid Mafia that tried to geek the Town would be caught when the Mayor never mentions them on his list. If any Mafia member false claims they'd be caught red handed fast because this plan does not use 1 person as the word of trust - it uses several with a self checking scheme. Continue to try and find more holes in it, this is interesting and fun. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.041 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:12 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:04 qrs wrote: Edit: @ Ace: He's saying that every bodyguard would get a PM. Their PM would list Mafia members as bodyguards. Each bodyguard's PM would list (the same) fake bodyguards as their colleagues. None of the bodyguards would know the difference.[/QUOTE] They'd still be caught. Ok let's look at like this: Scenario 1: There are 7 bodyguards total. 2 Mafia members "fake" PM the BG's with a Mafia Mayor who also sends out the PM. We will know how many BGs are there when the elections are over. The Mafia can't leave 2 of the real Bodyguards off the list because the 2 that didn't get a PM would speak up. They can't just add an extra 2 to the PM because any BG getting a PM from the Mayor with 9 names obviously means the Mayor is clearly not thinking straight and is fishy. Scenario 2: There are 7 bodyguards total. 2 Mafia members "fake" PM the BG's with an Innocent Mayor who also sends out the PM. The PMs from the Mayor don't match those 2 "fake" PMs. Even better, the names of those 2 fakers never even appear in the Mayor's original PM and they just outted themselves as Mafia for a pathetic chance at confusion. How can the Mafia possibly get away with faking any of it without drawing attention to their members? [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.041 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:16 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:11 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 09:10 Ghar wrote: What Ace meant was the real bodyguards would see it strange that they got a PM from Chuiu telling them they're bodyguard, but not from the mayor who might have left them out when PMing the bodyguards about each other. Ace's plan = Bodyguard gets 2 PMs, 1 from Chuiu, and 1 from the Mayor telling him who the other bodyguards are. The number has to add up, anybody guard that didn't get a PM from the mayor, stands up and speaks out.[/QUOTE] You guys aren't understanding Kau's point. The real bodyguards would ALL get PMs from the mafioso mayor. The PMs would be lies, but they would all get them.[/QUOTE] Remember the other part of the plan - the Detectives. If a Mafia Mayor sent those PMs he'd be revealed by the next day. So the BGs would know something is not right once he's found out. The thing is, any tampering with this plan means that a Mafia member has to come out of hiding to do it. And once things don't add up, we have a list of suspects to investigate and a good place to start off. I'm SURE Mafia members will try and tamper with it, and if I'm Mayor I'll be waiting for them. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.041 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:29 Ace wrote:I'm honestly not comfortable with Empyrean even being Pardoner. His logic is not adding up. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.042 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:43 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:32 Kau wrote: Ace, I don't see how scenario 1 would happen at all. Unless I don't understand how the game works (which is a definite possibility), this is how I see it using your numbers. What everyone knows: There are 7 bodyguards. Only the mayor knows which 7 people are bodyguards. Now, we assume that the mayor is also mafia, so he can coordinate with other mafia members. Since he knows who each bodyguard is, he will send each of the 7 bodyguards a pm. Each pm will have 7 people in it: 6 mafia and 1 bodyguard. Each bodyguard gets pm'ed back by the mafia members (6 different pm's for each bodyguard) and so they believe there are 7 bodyguards. No bodyguards are left out. Each list sent contains 7 people. Each bodyguard recieves 6 confirmation pm's.[/QUOTE] If this Does happen the Mafia has then implicated 7 of their own Mafia members because: 1.) The DTs investigated the Mayor and find out he is MAFIA 2.) Once this is revealed, all the BGs speak out about the PMs they received and not only are the names tallied, the common names in PMs that are fishy get investigated first For that hole to work, it assumes that we have a Mafia Mayor and that no Detective investigates them. That would never happen.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.042 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 09:47 Ace wrote:And to further clarify this is how the self-checking works: Bodyguards are checked by each other and Mayor with the PMs Mayor is checked by Detectives Detectives stay silent if the Mayor is legit, and speak up if he is Mafia If ANY Detective speaks up against the Mayor and we can't decide whether or not who to believe, we go to the ultimatum approach - just lynch the DT first and if he is telling the truth the Mayor is Mafia. Boom - Mafia Mayor gone by the second day. If you see any flaws in the self-checking scheme, also point that out so we can discuss. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.043 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:06 Ace wrote:Guys remember all your "holes" are assuming a Mafia Mayor who won't be checked by Detectives - that's a very far stretch. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.043 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:15 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:10 Kau wrote: Guys, the reason I brought up this hole was because I didn't know that the mayor could be proven mafia or innocent. Since Ace cleared it up, sending fake pms as a mafia mayor will just get them killed.[/QUOTE] no problem, I am hoping people find holes so we can clear up any confusion about the plan and also find solutions where they are needed. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.044 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:25 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:16 qrs wrote: Much as I hate to admit it, I believe my plan is flawed. As per Kau's post, a Mafia can identify himself as a bodyguard, and all the bodyguards will believe he is telling the truth. The Bodyguard plan is not failsafe after all. Unless someone comes up with something new, we will have to waste some detective power as Ghar has been saying.[/QUOTE] Read my self checking scheme. Sure we waste some Detective Power, but we get a much needed confirmation of the Mayor's status. An added benefit is that once the Detectives know the Mayor is innocent, he can then PM him and reveal himself. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.044 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:35 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 10:30 Kau wrote: Hmm... Actually, what happens in the case the mayor is mafia, and a mafia-detective points him out along with real detective. Would we have to lynch both to be sure?[/QUOTE] Yes, but another alternative is to apply clues to both of them and find out which fits best and go from there. If we make a mistake and lynch one of them innocently, then the other is sure to be Mafia. When that testimony is resolved we will also know the status of the Mayor. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.045 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 11:43 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 11:26 BlindAlbino wrote: Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch. I vote Ace for Mayor.[/QUOTE] [url=http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?currentpage=6&topic_id=68177]http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?currentpage=6&topic_id=68177[/url][/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.045 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 11:58 Ace wrote:Needless to say I'm very,very uncomfortable with Empyrean even being Pardoner nevertheless Mayor. Seriously people that are voting for Empyrean what exactly are you basing this vote off of? The fact that he played well last round even though he was Mafia? The wrong thinking that since he was Mafia last round that he surely can't be Mafia this round? Those 2 points are clearly not going to help choose a Good Mayor. But that isn't my problem with his candidacy - this is: He role claimed Detective. This one action brings out a major problem. At this point we can't verify that Empyrean is legit as a DT. We pretty much have to go on blind trust, and I'm begging those of you who have played this game before to recall what happens when we act on blind faith. Nothing good will come out of it. Why would someone claim a key role like that early, saying that they fear they would be killed at night? If he really was acting in the best interest of the town, he would realize that as a key target the Medics would protect him and how that simple action puts a spin on the Mafia killing power. But he went the selfish route. Even more so, Empyrean never had a plan until myself and Ghar put plans up. He never even read the original plans and even got qsr's plan analyzed WRONG. How can this guy be a good candidate even though he didn't read many of the posts that are the main focus of discussion right now? But besides all of that, the final nail in the coffin is the fact that everyone says Empyrean is a good player. As any good mafia player will tell you, role claiming is a great strategy - only when done at the right time. The very beginning of the game when nothing can be proved, Empyrean an acclaimed good player role claims. He even admits that it can't be proved but we should just trust him. Think this out guys. A GOOD player that has not acted on logic, has not posted a plan till later in voting, and is running on a platform of "trust me based on my actions last game" which have no bearing on his status this game. HOW is this going to help us survive? He has not done anything so far that shows me or many others he is capable of acting in the best interest of the town and has even admitted it. Empyrean is smart - and he certainly isn't running on a platform that shows that. It's a trust platform, and right now the best thing we can do is vote based on plans of action and leadership NOT trust - because that can't be proven until later. Stop voting for him. I may have a slight lead right now, but by tomorrow who knows how the voting will stack up. I may even never get the Mayor position. I'm not comfortable with a guy who's acting selfishly and irrationally on Day 1 in any position of power. Even if he is Pardoner I'd be worried. Once I again I'm begging you guys to reconsider. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.046 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:15 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote: as for the other candidates..meh. i was keeping an updated excel sheet of ALL the people, who they vote for, who supports them, who they support, who accuses them, who they accuse, because it gets oh-so-easy to keep track of people (i was reading thread @ work and felt like doing that) then i get home and flip vanilla, so i suddenly get far too lazy to do that =/ maybe someone else can take over, i'll send you what i have right now (it goes up to page 35ish i think?) oh and it has the list of all the people, their sigs, and potential themes used for clues, ordered by likelihood, since I think that getting a list of clues that could apply to a certain person, then running through the day post to see if any in fact DO match, is a far better way than vice versa (running through the post to see the people they might match to) someone with a lot of time (randombum?) wanna do this? [IMG]/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE] I've also got 2 notepads with info of stuff myself [IMG]/mirror/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.046 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:16 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:11 Empyrean wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote: people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him [/QUOTE] I PM'd Ace something. Don't worry.[/QUOTE] I got your PM, I'll respond later when I'm back from going out. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.046 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:21 Ace wrote:[IMG]/mirror/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.046 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:25 Ace wrote:my frown was in response to OpZ's posts, I have no clue where he is going lol[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.047 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:43 Ace wrote:don't jump to any conclusions just yet guys[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.047 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:56 Ace wrote:Most likely anyone who has a clue pointing to them won't be lynched the first day if I got Mayor unless there is some very strong evidence against them, and even then I might not do it. If I HAVE to lynch someone though, I already have an idea of how to go about it. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:59 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:57 ahrara_ wrote: I see clues as largely a means of supporting a suspicion, not the beginning of one. Like I said, if you've been following the thread, there have been people who've done some weird things that warrant suspicions. Nothing for sure, but plenty of starting points not based on clues.[/QUOTE] This is something that needs constant repeating.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:02 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 12:59 Ace wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:57 ahrara_ wrote: I see clues as largely a means of supporting a suspicion, not the beginning of one. Like I said, if you've been following the thread, there have been people who've done some weird things that warrant suspicions. Nothing for sure, but plenty of starting points not based on clues.[/QUOTE] This is something that needs constant repeating.[/QUOTE] You seriously do remind me of Tracil last game. You just don't say "scum" as every second word.[/QUOTE] I'm being careful about throwing that word around, I don't want to start any false bandwagons by accident. I haven't even accused anyone yet lol[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:06 Ace wrote:I won't share it yet. And yes it possibly can end up getting one of my voters killed, but I highly doubt it. And if it does look like I'm going to win for sure, I'll post the strat on purpose as insurance that it works.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:06 Ace wrote:In fact I have 2 ideas that I may use at the same time.[/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:09 Ace wrote:randombum, remember that I played in that short, SC based game last time. I was the one who DENOUNCED the random number generator. I've got a much better idea this time around. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.048 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:10 Ace wrote:[QUOTE]On March 19 2008 13:09 qrs wrote: [QUOTE][url=#]Show nested quote +[/url] On March 19 2008 13:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:59 Ace wrote: [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 12:57 ahrara_ wrote: I see clues as largely a means of supporting a suspicion, not the beginning of one. Like I said, if you've been following the thread, there have been people who've done some weird things that warrant suspicions. Nothing for sure, but plenty of starting points not based on clues.[/QUOTE] This is something that needs constant repeating.[/QUOTE] You seriously do remind me of Tracil last game. You just don't say "scum" as every second word.[/QUOTE] QFT. You have said some things that made sense, Ace, but you have also sounded fairly patronizing in many of your posts. At the end of the day, you haven't actually contributed that much more than anyone else. (I was taken by the bodyguard idea when you posted it, but Kau pointed out the flaw in it [as a standalone method].)[/QUOTE] I can't help if I sound patronizing I guess? We've already addressed the flaw, it was cleared up. If you've still got questions let me know asap, I'm about to leave here soon. [/QUOTE] Posted in night7/main_page.049 [QUOTE]On March 19 2008 15:18 Ace wrote:what the hell is <->, the bidirectional logic sign?[/QUOTE] | ||
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53. Ace (Mayor) Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:31 Ace wrote:Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 5 MoRe_mInErAls LTT wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 21 Last Romantic Meta Eti307 Showtime! MTF BloodyC0bbler RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim crazie-penguin Ace - 31 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Hollander Naib useLess GeneralStan ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Mynock Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie randombum - 14 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea GrayArea jeejee Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau ~OpZ~ Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 4 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:42 Ace wrote:I do have a good idea of how I'm going to go about using that first lynch, I just haven't decided on a person yet because it's pretty much impossible to do it right now. Posted in night7/main_page.049 Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 16:06 Ace wrote: One of them will be using the clues that we have so far, thats all I can say for now. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 16:24 Ace wrote:huh? Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 16:25 Ace wrote:ah ok got it, you edited your vote so many times T_T Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:32 Ace wrote: This makes no sense, and I'll explain why. 1.) Saying that Empyrean is likely detective is pointless - no one's roles can be proved 2.) No one should be assumed innocent, or guilty - the only assumption anyone knows at all right now is that they can trust no one if they are a Townie 3.) I agree, just because people play badly or dumb doesn't make them Mafia - but it surely doesn't make them worthy for candidacy of Mayor or Pardoner 4.) No one is accusing anyone of being Mafia right now 5.) Not allow him to use his Pardoning powers? If he gets the role, we cant exactly force him not toby threat of lynching. Anyone who has played this game enough knows that a threat like that can be smashed into pieces if a much bigger disaster hits the Town because people "forget". Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:41 Ace wrote:Also, it really doesn't matter if The Double Lynch can be role blocked. I've already stated how I plan to use them and if the Mafia roleblocks during those times well that sucks for them. Another thing, I'm sure the Mafia has read up on the Bodyguard plan and have seen something in it that makes it a little difficult to "break". I'm still asking that if anyone can find any scenarios that would mess the plan up to please post them.After the game I'll explain in depth the real reasoning behind the plan (can't do that now). Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:14 Ace wrote:Guys seriously, stop worrying about the Double Lynches. That can do more harm than good if not used at the right time Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:20 Ace wrote:I'm just saying don't be so gung ho about them, when you the time is right you'll know. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:35 Ace wrote:I think the current vote count is like this (based on Falcynn's last post) Ace-30 randombum-23 Empyrean-17 Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:52 Ace wrote:Yep Detectives will after confirming my Innocence investigate Empyrean and let me know if he's innocent. Also, this is not a lynch Empyrean moment - nemy stop posting nonsense. Confusion like that only hurts the town. The focus of the town is: 1.) Get a Mayor and Pardoner 2.) Mayor uses first lynch 3.) Investigate myself,empyrean and randombum 4.) Enact the Bodyguard Plan Hopefully I still get Mayor, randombum is catching up *Makes dirty campaign adds slandering randombum's name* Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:08 Ace wrote: If you mean about the plan, the Detectives confirm my innocence by staying silent. If any of the Detectives speak up and say I'm Mafia, then one of us has to be lying. We lynch the DT, if he is Mafia it was just a plan to try and get the town to lynch me first. If he is innocent, I'm obviously Mafia and the Town would lynch me when his death reveals his innocence. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:10 Ace wrote: yea, which is why I said that early role claim, whether or not Empyrean is Innocent just put us in a really shitty spot :/ Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:36 Ace wrote: That would literally be like, the dumbest thing ever for a detective to do. Way too selfish. All it takes is ONE detective to call me out. If one of them calls me out then all the others can stay silent and watch the proceedings. I also hope that when people find out I really am Innocent as Mayor, they PM me their roles and any other relevant info. I've already started making lists of info. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:23 Ace wrote:I really don't understand why you're acting so off the wall Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:06 Ace wrote: yea I'm starting to realize that, that could be a problem but I'll try and find a way around that also Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:13 Ace wrote:Well If I get Mayor, when I make it back I'll contact all the bodyguards and explain the plan to them for choosing the first lynch. It's really quite simple and hopefully it eliminates errors. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:18 Ace wrote: for sure, I'll repost the entire body guard plan AND the First lynch plan AND part of our "mob hunting plan" too. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:08 Ace wrote:I just walked in the house guys, give me a sec Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:12 Ace wrote:I sent Chuiu a PM, waiting on a response Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:23 Ace wrote:Ok I've gotten through talking with Chuiu. I've also got a lot of stuff to read, and then I'll repost the plan again in full detail. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:26 Ace wrote:{88}iNcontroL Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 Ace wrote:This was the first lynch plan: If anyone remember that speed game that got messed with the Starcraft themes, I was the one who proposed the "we lynch anyone that doesn't talk". 1.) Mafia members that don't talk and try to lay low will have to step forward into the spotlight or chanced getting lynched 2.) Townies that really aren't doing anything to contribute to the game aren't going to help us at all anyway. What I did was I looked at the people that signed up and then compared them to the people that voted. Whatever names didn't show on both lists I took out and picked 1 which was Incontrol. Then I started at page 16 of the thread (where the game really starts) and F-searched every page and did not see that he posted in the thread at all. Thats how I came to my decision. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:30 Ace wrote: You really really have been all against me from Day 1 havent you? Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:35 Ace wrote: I wasnt in the first game. And thats a plan that I think every Veteran of Mafia has used at some point. Posted in night7/main_page.064 Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:37 Ace wrote:Btw, I've already been roleblocked. So for tomorrow I can't Double Lynch, and I don't have extra voting power. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:39 Ace wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.066 Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:45 Ace wrote:Surely you guys dont think I would lynch someone that VOTED? Think about what that implies. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 Ace wrote: I'm quoting this post also for future reference. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:11 Ace wrote:If you're still complaining about Incontrol being lynched, and you have a better idea then prove it. I'm not going to lynch anyone that voted because that would eliminate a somewhat active player. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:15 Ace wrote:for the good of the Town can you STOP acting stupid. If you keep doing that I'm just going to assume your Mafia and hope you get lynched very soon. Also, Townies as I stated before I've already been role blocked by the Saboteur. No extra votes, no double lynch. I have a voting power total of 6, with 5 extras. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:17 Ace wrote: how about this for better logic: Odds are anyone with a good role is playing the game and voting, especially being that majority of them got vanilla townies. So odds are I hit Mafia trying to lay low or a vanilla townie who just gave up on playing. I took a chance and just happened to hit a blue. Really thats just tough luck but if Inc didn't post at all nevertheless vote or abstain how does that help us? Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:22 Ace wrote:Reposting for clarification: The Bodyguard Plan (fully revised) This is a strategy I've used in the past to win games, and it works very well if even a slight majority of the main players involved use it. The base of this plan lends itself to the fact that no innocent Townie knows for sure who else is innocent or what roles they are. Also is the fact that the main disadvantage the Town has is lack of information, whereas our main advantage is numbers. Combining these two things is the Bodyguard Plan. At the start of the game, the only non-Mafia/elected roles that any other player can possibly know for sure is a Bodyguard. The Mayor receives this info once elected into office. This plan is best with an innocent Mayor, but it also forces a Mafia Mayor to help the town in the event he/she is ever elected. When the Mayor is elected, their first plan of action should be to PM all the Bodyguards each other's identities. This pus information into the hands of the Townies that is critical. Assume there are 7 bodyguards. The Mayor PMs all of them the identity of the other 6. All of them then PM each other to 1: confirm they got a PM stating they are the bodyguard from the Mayor 2: make sure they ALL have the same list of Bodyguards In the case of an Innocent Mayor doing this, we have 7 townies all on the same side off the jump and this will be a major help to the Town if they all know the roles of 6 other innocents asap. In the case of a Mafia Mayor he could actually try and add a Mafia member to the list of Bodyguards or ignore a real Bodyguard - and this is where the true failsafe in the plan comes in. Failsafe: Remember, all Bodyguards SHOULD get that PM. If any of the Bodyguards don't get it then they should know something is clearly fishy and should investigate hastily. The Mayor would be investigated from Day 1, so the Town will know for sure if he/she is innocent or not which will allow the Bodyguards to know they can or can't trust the Mayor. If the Mayor turns out dirty, the Bodyguards will clearly speak up asap. If the Mayor is legit, then that Bodyguard list is 100% legit and ensures we have a solid base to start from because the Detectives stay silent. In summary the idea of this plan is self checking: Bodyguards are checked by each other and Mayor with the PMs Mayor is checked by Detectives Detectives stay silent if the Mayor is legit, and speak up if he is Mafia If ANY Detective speaks up against the Mayor and we can't decide whether or not who to believe, we go to the ultimatum approach - just lynch the DT first and if he is telling the truth the Mayor is Mafia. Boom - Mafia Mayor gone by the second day. If the Mayor tends to be Mafia and releases a corrupted list, then the BGs will speak up and name the people on the list. The DTs paying attention to this, investigate the names. The Mafia will have added just thrown some of their members into a trap and will get figured out eventually. In the case of an innocent Mayor this 100% guarantees us safety, in the case of a Mafia Mayor it takes us at worst 2 days to clean up the mess. This is my plan of action to start the game off. In the event the list is released publicly, the best part of this plan is that the spotlight is taken off of the Detectives and put on the Bodyguards. This allows the Detectives to stay quiet, and for the Medics to have a list of people they need to watch. Remember what I stated earlier - the Town's main disadvantage is that we lack information and this plan serves to rectify that while maximizing our main advantage - numbers. Once the base has been formed (Mayors + Bodyguards) we can start generating a list of suspects together, and figuring out roles down the road. To succeed the Town needs a strong start, and this plan is one of such. Once you are assured of my innocence through the Detective's silence, then you should PM me your roles so we can get started. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:27 Ace wrote: Chuiu did not remove anyone from the game yet so I thought ALL players were fair game. I read the rules but since Chuiu left them all there is it wrong for me to think that surely any of them can still be playing? You really are irritating. And like I said I'm not lynching anyone based off of 1 night of clues. The reason I didn't even bother to look at any of the people posting is because if I ended up lynching an Innocent who just happened to be stupid, the backlash would have been worse than it is now. The ONLY reason people are upset is because Inc turned out to be blue instead of green. I say we just move on with the plan and stop trying to be disgruntled. It's only adding confusion and a bad start. This is the last time I'm addressing this. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:42 Ace wrote:Guys just ignore Showtime for now and get back to the game. The plan has already been put into motion, and already a few surprising things have come up. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:55 Ace wrote:Well I can't instant lynch anymore, so the power to lynch is in your hands just as much as mine except I have 6 hands (^_^ ) Shallow I cant reveal that info right now, just know a lot of PMs have come in Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:02 Ace wrote:lol not all of them are about roles, some of them are just discussions, strats, stuff like that. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:06 Ace wrote:no it's not about detectives either. Basically what happened is that people started messaging me interesting ideas, questions, some roles, and some observances. It's just really interesting because I have a lot of faith in the town's ability. Some of the townies (if they really are) are really very clever individuals. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:07 Ace wrote: If the Detectives investigate me, then reveal their roles to me and see I'm innocent then why wouldn't they PM me? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:20 Ace wrote:If I happened to be Mafia, then the town knowing this can still always "force" my hand. Either he acts in the best interest of the Town and is fucked if he doesn't, and/or we double guess his every move and see how he votes and who he doesn't vote for. But, it's usually a good idea to kill a Mafia Mayor asap once they've been found out. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:28 Ace wrote:Yea and once he abstains he no longer serves a purpose - lynch. The town can play mind games too Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:28 Ace wrote:Sorry Inc T_T Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:14 Ace wrote:The bodyguard plan started last night. So far what's happpened: All bodyguards have been contacted and all their info exchanged. Not all DTs have confirmed anything with me yet, I think some of them are still waiting or sleeping. I still have to verify them all at some point anyway, that'll take time but I've already got a plan for that. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:15 Ace wrote:Also I've said this before but as soon as I was elected Mayor, I got roleblocked. No extra voting power or double lynches for me today. So I only have a vote count of 1, not 6 for today. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:17 Ace wrote:yes Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:25 Ace wrote:Like I said before, if you don't understand the decision I made then keep reading it until you do. No one is a prime suspect right now, until I start getting more info and the first night's lynches happen there isn't anyone even close to the chopping block. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:Also, can the Town start discussing the clues from Day 1 again? Right now, I think that should be our main focus. No matter who dies tonight, if we already have a list of suspects, coupled with the information I am receiving we'll save a lot of time and hopefully lives with tomorrow's lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:48 Ace wrote: actually it's a sound strategy. Shit stirrers are no benefit to the town, and if we make it clear we'd lynch them they would shape up. If they continue to behave that way we have no choice but to think they are Mafia and get rid of them. Posted in night7/main_page.077 Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:14 Ace wrote:Actually even with 100+ people it won't take us long to find reds. 1.) Once all the Townies start PMing me, if any roles clash there's an issue 2.) There's room for 76 townies, and even then with inactives if too many Mafia tried to claim vanilla, that strengthens the validity of the blues that PM me giving us an easier time 3.) Everyone doesn't need to be investigated 4.) With a killing power of 9, after 2 days lets say around 24 people died (vigis and lynchings). By then, it would be really clear who some of the Mafia are. Really, I'd only be worried if we hit Day 3 with 0 dead mafia and almost all our blues gone. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:20 Ace wrote:Yes even if you are a plain vanilla townie I want you to PM me. It'll help me a lot Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:37 Ace wrote: Ok for a second I'm going to put myself in the shoes of a Mafia member talking strategy with all his cohorts. I see the bodyguard plan and realize that false claiming BG or DT early in the game will 100% lead to me being investigated soon no matter what. So I instead wait until no one accuses the Mayor who I know is innocent, and then start sending in role PMs. 3 things happen here that can benefit Mafia: 1.) Not enough people sent in the same role PM (blue) so I look legit enough 2.) I claim a vanilla townie (green) and no one else is sending in PMs anyway so why waste an investigation on me 3. ) There are a lot of greens anyway so chances are I'm not found out So I devised a counter-strategy that also falls in line with the BG plan: If I ask everyone to PM me (and they should once they realize I'm legit) then the Mafia plan is crushed, because they 1.) can't risk sending in a blue PM this is a major advantage to the town. If they send in a false blue PM and I ask them to do something and stuff doesn't add up they are caught. If they don't send in a false blue PM that just makes the real blues look legit (all add up) and I'm 100% sure they are real and can use them to the best abilities. 2.) send in vanilla PMs seriously, if I end up with a list of 90 something vanillas and few blues I essentially just cut off all 34 or so blue roles out the suspect list. Either way, the act of forcing everyone to PM me makes the Mafia have to think about the path they'll take their chances with, and I have methods for dealing with both paths. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:39 Ace wrote: And that is one of our prime strategies right now. Remember I already said we don't need to investigate 100+ people. If someone screws up in a group of 7, all we need to do is apply the clues to that group and confirm things with an investigation if need be. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:49 Ace wrote: this idea makes no sense. No PM also means Mafia members just never have to worry about contacting me, and then they also know that not every townie has PM'd me so it's easier for them to just lay low and not get caught lying. If everyone has to PM me, eventually I'll catch some role clashes and some lies. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:51 Ace wrote: no it isn't. Mynock's logic makes sense. Whether or not Empyrean is a DT or not the only people that would really benefit from his death right now are Mafia if he isn't one. They have the option of leaving his suspicion to us, or racking their brains trying to figure out if he really was a DT. If he really was, well then if they let him live he goes around unscathed doing his thing. Either way Empyrean isn't getting lynched by the town just yet. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:09 Ace wrote:I don't think you get it: If everyone sent me a PM saying their townie - GREAT. Now when all the blues PM me I know they all match up and are 100% confirmed. So now I knock 34 names off the suspect list, incorporate them into the network and all suspects are also on the "vanilla townie" list. A PM that tells me "hi I'm townie" holds a lot of weight. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:23 Ace wrote:you understand it. Thing is the"inactive" problem is can be taken care of easily. Also, I already have ideas on ho to confirm people. I don't need all 100+ players, and yes even the silent ones are going to get fished out. I'm guessing Mafia have some silent members, some that only vote, and surely some posting in this thread actively to try and mess things up. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:39 Ace wrote:what the fuck Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:43 Ace wrote: first of all, even the people who I think are legit won't know any other persons roles. The only people that would have that list are myself and the Bodyguards. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:44 Ace wrote: You do realize declaring you are a townie is a very selfish move right? Either you're trying to confuse mafia, or your mafia hoping we don't lynch you and serving as a distraction. It's stunts like this that I would rather have gotten a PM. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:17 Ace wrote: cant do that, check the rules @ziel: It's been how many days now? Come on, people have got to be playing by now or the town would be as good as dead from the get go. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:26 Ace wrote:hmmm? how so? sacrificing themselves to save the town from a corrupt Mayor? I don't see the problem. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:27 Ace wrote: voting counts as activity too. But soon, people that just don't do anything BUT vote will obviously be suspected. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:31 Ace wrote:they wont say it publicly. If no DT steps up, I'm obviously innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:46 Ace wrote:I've read everything up till now, I'll be back later to post conclusions. Right now I'm not saying anything so Mafia have no idea whats in the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 13:21 Ace wrote:random: right now I think everyone is just waiting for the mafia to strike tonight b4 believing everything. Once tomorrow comes and the voting starts, a lot of the Townies will have their minds made up and know where to go from there. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:24 Ace wrote:Yea waiting for this day post hurts Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 04:01 Ace wrote:Eti I strongly suggest you catch up, a lot has happened in the the pages from like 50+ till now. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 05:19 Ace wrote:thats one of the plans. No blind lynching unless something comes up that isn't available to the public eye. Of course I'll always try and explain all my votes as best as I can. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:36 Ace wrote:I don't think the Mafia want to kill plain Townies Empyrean lol Posted in night7/main_page.089 Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:44 Ace wrote:oh shit didn't even realize Inc was an ultralisk Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:38 Ace wrote:All blue roles that can act in the day DO NOT ACT yet. Hold on for a while. And by now all of you should realize I'm innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 Ace wrote:Thats exactly why I never ever accused CTStalker, I didn't think the clue pointed to him at all. Sadly, neither Yogurt or CTStalker ever pm'd me so I couldn't even get them protected even by chance Posted in night7/main_page.092 Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:55 Ace wrote:What the fuck though Yogurt? Why in gods name did anyone suspect Stalker. Didn't we all say until Day 2 has clues posted that NO ONE is suspect? This shit actually makes me kinda pissed :/ Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 13:58 Ace wrote:Ok look. EVERYONE PM me their roles. I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that I'm innocent now. We lost 2 blues tonight, and sadly one of them was a Jack. Neither of those 2 players ever PM'd me and if this trend keeps on going myself and the others that are 100% innocent will be playing with incomplete info. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:03 Ace wrote: ... If I was a mad hatter, and I was in a town of 70 I wouldnt put a bomb on anyone at all until I had 100% proof or AT LEAST discussed it with the people that had more info than myself that I knew had to be 100% innocent. What if mafia had hit one of my bodyguards AND Stalker was also a bodyguard? see how quickly things could get shitty if everyone plays selfish? Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:19 Ace wrote:Yea I was actually upset that I figured Mynock would be dead when he kept posting really smart things. Really, if all the medics would have PM'd me b4 acting (we had AGES) I think for sure Mynock would have lived. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:26 Ace wrote:sorry guys. Just woke up. A lot has happened. Some good news - I think we've got about 3, possibly 4 Mafia in the crosshairs right now. That doesn't mean they'll be lynched today (as of now), but we're going to be gathering a lot of info soon. Also, not all of the detectives have PM'd me. I'm still waiting on more. Everyone should be sending me their roles right now, it's obvious I'm innocent Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:33 Ace wrote:I was partying all night as always, drinking that kinda stuff. Went to sleep at 11am Eastern Time Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:35 Ace wrote:I've got over 30, I haven't responded to all of them but I will eventually. <---eating chicken right now Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:36 Ace wrote:well I'll be home for at least the next 4 hours so yea I'll catch up. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 09:37 Ace wrote:Ghar disappeared because (allegedly) he isn't here. He told me a day or 2 ago he'd be going camping for the weekend and won't be able to post. I know that could just be a Mafia ploy to lay low, but it explains why I won't use my vote to lynch him right now. But keep investigating, you guys are helping me a lot with your PMs and public discussion a lot more than you know. Once again, since it's obvious I'm innocent right now PM me your role and any other relevant information if asap even if you're a vanilla townie because it helps! Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:15 Ace wrote:Also, I'm asking everyone that has voted so far to withdraw your votes. I'll be leaving sometime soon, but a Mafia member is getting lynched today for sure unless someone messes up. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:17 Ace wrote:and once again, everyone PM ME YOUR ROLE. Even vanilla townies, it's helping a lot. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:33 Ace wrote: I'm asking everyone retract votes because when the suspect is confirmed, I want everyone to vote the exact same. And I don't want Ghar to be even near the chopping block and get lynched because people "forgot to sign on in time to change their vote". Posted in night7/main_page.103 Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 13:26 Ace wrote: hopefully when I get back home all my stuff will be finished (going partying again tonight). Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:23 Ace wrote:Once again, everyone retract all votes you currently have. Yes, this is part of my plan Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:30 Ace wrote:Chuiu is on a 48 hour timer right? I really have no idea but it has to be at least ~18-20 left Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:37 Ace wrote:well, hey hopefully it all turns out goodie goodie. In fact, I want to see what happens on Night 2. I think the Mafia are in a jam if we're lucky ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:37 Ace wrote:ok time to go, my ride is here. later people! Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 19:24 Ace wrote: I'll explain it fully once I get this new information. As to the other post, if everyone tried to retract their votes but a few didn't and got an innocent lynched even better - I just ask a DT to ask Chuiu how many Mafia voted in that lynch and well that's a pretty good trade. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 01:10 Ace wrote:Guys I'm waiting on a few PMs and also for Chuiu to tell us how much time we have left till voting ends. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 01:44 Ace wrote:also, everyone remember to PM ME your role. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 02:26 Ace wrote: I've answered this question like 5 times throughout the thread already. I still don't have all Detectives though, I'm trying to work with the ones I have though. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 03:53 Ace wrote:I'm not going to tell you everything in the plan because that would be stupid. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:16 Ace wrote:Also, I can already see either people are inactive or wanting to play selfish. Remaining Vigilantes please PM me before Night time arrives. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:24 Ace wrote:NO DETECTIVE WILL PUBLICLY SPEAK We've been over this about 50 times about why that would be ridiculously bad. Honestly, asking something like that I'm not sure if you're Mafia just getting desperate or what because you know that you guys messed up and that we are on to you. I've purposely not been posting in public too much information because I didn't have to. But certain people are not responding to my messages even though I gave them ample time, so in about 2 hours I'll be very close to releasing the first suspect list which I'm sure contains Mafia. Basically, any of the people who don't respond within that time limit will be publicly thrown up for execution. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:38 Ace wrote:I'm giving the people that may be innocent as much time as possible, but this is getting ridiculous. If they are innocent, then they are screwing themselves over because it's been WAY too long for them not to either do they say they were going to do or respond to PMs. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:15 Ace wrote: like, I'm seriously close to asking the town to lynch you. This has got to be at least the 4th time you've stated something obviously so stupid whether you are Innocent or not the town would be better off without you. And here's why I'm calling you out: Anyone with any sense realizes I'm trying to save an innocent life that obviously hasn't PM'd me back. And we all know there's not a lot of time before the vote closes. So I'm thinking your Mafia because you're always on my nuts and you know that the voting is going to close soon. You also know I'm not going to get that PM I need. And you also know that the info you sent me is the only reason I'd think about not asking for you to be killed (you'd be wrong on that account). I'm willing to drop my current lead and just ask everyone to vote for you and French_Toast because of the shit you guys have been doing. As an aside for the town, here's the PM convo between myself and French_Toast: ----------------------------------------- Original Message: now you really gotta stfu on the thread because you're becoming really annoying. And by the way your innocence has not been proven yet, detectives wont speak up and you haven't voted with your "disabled" vote count. And you protecting ghar like that makes me really suspicious, voting for inactive people without relevant clues = bad idea. To: French_Toast Subject: Re: my role Date: 3/24/08 04:58 stop bitching. If my innocence hasn't been proven yet in your eyes so be it, but don't come at me talking a bunch of shit. If you feel that way, post it publicly and stop acting like a fucking moron. His PM makes no damn sense, because when have I voted? I haven't. He either is not reading the thread or Mafia trying to cause confusion. As of now, I ask the townies to match clues up on Heros)Pink and French_Toast. Do as you guys please with your votes until I get this information, because honestly if either of these 2 die and turn up innocent it's not going to hurt us. We've been through this a thousand times and you fucktards still keep spewing shit which makes me think you'd have to be Mafia despite the big fucking signs that say STOP CAUSING CONFUSION EVEN WHEN WE ALL ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOING ON. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:20 Ace wrote:Oh, I think shit is about to hit the fan for sure. I just got another PM and if I don't get this last one soon someone else is about to be outted. Posted in night7/main_page.109 Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:36 Ace wrote:Why would you assume Lucas knows exactly what info I need? Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:41 Ace wrote:hahaha Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:46 Ace wrote:ok guys here's the situation. I'm trying to confirm one of my DTs. So I asked the person to check out another person who's role I obviously already know. All my other DTs passed this test, so the last DT has to do this also. That person hasn't responded so I'm very close to lynching them because I think they can't figure out what it is (obviously because they aren't a DT). Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:49 Ace wrote:No I didn't even have to check if the person posted in this thread or not. Everything will be clear soon. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:50 Ace wrote: I'm going to ignore this post only because I would end up revealing how the inner workings of the DT's checked out. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:53 Ace wrote: Thats the thing, they can't still be sleeping. I sent them something so long ago I think they are laying low. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:59 Ace wrote:I'm not going to lynch Ghar solely on the fact that we've got a much more sure fire situation in catching Mafia on our hands right now. Basically even if we messed this up, I'd know who the liar was and ask a Vigi to kill that person tonight. I don't 100% believe Ghar is innocent or guilty, but I'm not going to lynch him when finding out this info right now would save us a lot of trouble. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:08 Ace wrote: Yea I will, but since I can't do a double lynch it would make no sense to reveal info that gets 2 ppl in crossfires just yet, because I'd have to reveal something else also. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:21 Ace wrote:well then how about this. Everyone vote for Mandalor to be lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:29 Ace wrote:Because there are believe it or not, a lot of role collisions right now. Too many people claimed certain roles. So I asked Mandalor a question, and he would have confirmed something for me if he did respond, but it's been forever and I'm waiting for a response. If he's innocent, that would just be really rotten luck because he said he'd get back to me asap but hasn't so I think he is laying low just because. If we lynch him and he turns out innocent, I'll just lynch the people that lied to me about him. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:38 Ace wrote: Ok put yourself in my shoes. You have a situation where 2 ppl are caught and 1 of them is lying. One of those people responds with something that shows they are somewhat legit, and the other never responds. And one of these 2 have to be guilty, and it's been a long time and the other person never said they'd be gone for so long. What would you do? Posted in night7/main_page.111 Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:42 Ace wrote:no Mandalor. I read your Pm and you're WRONG. Nice guess though EVERYONE VOTE FOR MANDALOR HE IS CONFIRMED MAFIA Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:43 Ace wrote:Also to the town: I lied in one of my posts to trick Mandalor just in case he really was watching the thread. I won't point out the post, but thats why I was being so vague. VOTE FOR MANDALOR Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:40 Ace wrote:Yea I agree, I like seeing people die in other ways. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:21 Ace wrote:Also I think it's a good idea if you guys get back to discussing clues. iirc, Ghar is one of the top suspects? Can you guys start posting lists of your top 5 suspects each and some reasons why? Heros)Pink and Frenchie are obviously at the top of my list for being way too annoying. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:28 Ace wrote:yea this is all public discussion. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:29 Ace wrote:Also, after today's vote we'll see who didn't vote at all and bump them up in the suspect list. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:47 Ace wrote:Chuiu told me people are bumped off if they miss 2 Day votes in a row. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:48 Ace wrote: At this point thats a good enough reason to get rid of them both. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:53 Ace wrote:well I can't do that because all the Vigis haven't reported in, but I'm sure they are active. I guess they don't want me influencing their powers, and will act like true Vigi's and kill off whoever they want to. Let's pray they don't hit innocents. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:56 Ace wrote:Only in the likelihood we don't have any other suspects. And it keeps igging me that they are so adamantly against me even at this point in time. They cause confusion and in every Mafia game I've played, some Mafia are sitting around just to confuse people and so far those 2 sure are acting like it. They are smart enough to know that confusing the Town is the quickest way to kill us all. They also know that this town has been in general, pretty orderly. And they still do it? it just irks me and doesn't seem right. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:03 Ace wrote:So what was all that talk about the strategy being cheap last night? Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:16 Ace wrote:Garr was one of the main characters from Breath of Fire 3. He was against the Dragon Clan, which Ryu was from. He was a servant to The God, but turned good after slaying so many dragons. I think the Goddesses name was Minerva, I've got to check again. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:21 Ace wrote:Garr is one of the Four Guardians created by Myria Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:45 Ace wrote:Before Mandalor PM'd me and messed up, we were trying to find clues to him and no one could find anything plausible on him, it was pretty damn hard to. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:48 Ace wrote: it sure would, except Mandalor sent me a PM where we were taunting each other, and how he got caught. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:36 Ace wrote:no, I'm still not sure about Empyrean, but I've got an idea for him too but only time will tell. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:45 Ace wrote:also to the VIGILANTES: some of you haven't confirmed - ok. Please, please dont kill anyone tonight unless you discuss it with me first. I'd hate for another Mad Hatter moment. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:24 Ace wrote:I've said it b4 but the vanilla townies are really the ones killing the Mafia. I communicate with them 5 times as much as with the blues. If you guys could see the PMs I get you'd probably explode. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:27 Ace wrote:Also keep in mind the game would have went radically different if Mandalor didnt get caught. I think after tonight's events (which is a huge night for both sides) things will get insanely ridiculous. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:35 Ace wrote:Pretty much if they kill certain people, it makes other people look more suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:10 Ace wrote:First Update Out of the 58 people that voted to lynch Mandalor, 10 are Mafia List: Mandalor - 58 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:27 Ace wrote:Ok this is the situation - too many people have claimed to be medics. Yea, we've had a Medic crisis. But not only that, we have a Vet crisis also. So at least 2 Mafia are lying about their roles. Mandalor claimed to know the role of the person I asked him to check, and well good luck to them. That person is going to be protected anyway, and they can try and suicide bomber him if they please (good luck). So they know that we know they have a lying medic, and they also know we know they have a lying Vet. So tonight's Medic assignments will be setup very carefully. There are some sure fire townies that are targets, and there are some that will be highly protected. There are also some that I think they don't want to hit because it would surely make some of them look guilty. And tonight, Vigis are on the loose. This will be a big night for both sides. Right now, we are waiting for news on the people that voted for Ghar before making any crazy decisions. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:31 Ace wrote:The reason I wanted EVERYONE to vote for Mandalor was exactly that - I hoped enough Mafia would jump on the bandwagon. So we have a list of 58 people, 10 are MAfia and we know some of the sure fire innocents on that list. After the information on Ghar comes in, we'll also look at the people who did not cast a vote. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:38 Ace wrote:Also on clues - the Kill Bill theme. Uma Thurman Beatrix Kiddo / Black Mamba / The Bride David Carradine Bill / Snake Charmer Lucy Liu O-Ren Ishii / Cottonmouth Michael Madsen Budd / Sidewinder Eddie could refer to Edward Bunker. He was a former criminal/troublesome child that became an author and also had a small part in Reservoir Dogs. Michael Madsen as Mr. Blonde Chris Penn as "Nice Guy" Eddie Cabot Steve Buscemi as Mr. Pink Edward Bunker as Mr. Blue Hope this helps Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:42 Ace wrote:Update Number 2 Ghar - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey. Out of these 7 people, 1 of them is Mafia. Also, the fact that only 1 Mafia voted to lynch Ghar does not look too good for him. The only plausible explanation is that they all switched to voting for Mandalor and left 1 of their guys on this list so we couldnt have 6 innocents off the bat. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:49 Ace wrote: Right, which is what we hoped. Thats why I asked everyone to retract votes for Ghar, we basically wanted a "Master list" with a sure fire # of Mafia on it confirmed. That way when people start dying, we have something to cross check everything against. Now we have that list. They know we have the list. And now they have to pick targets carefully. I'm betting they go after some of the people on the Abstained list. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:18 Ace wrote:Update I got some interesting information about centering around Mandalor's death. Check this out: To sum up, basically smurfingchobo voted on Mandalor way before I even brought him up. This is odd because even when we knew Mandalor was Mafia, we couldn't even find a single clue that implicated him. What do you guys think about this? Someone did some nice work Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:20 Ace wrote:Also, I find it very strange that one of the Mayoral candidates, araav has been inactive so much. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:33 Ace wrote:It's suspicious to me because from the gate he was against me getting Mayor. Go look back at his past posts and check them out. I have a notepad file of initial impressions of everyone in the game, here is the entry for araav: araav - ran for mayor on ridiculous pretenses Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:34 Ace wrote:so we need to know from smurfingchobo why he voted for Mandalor out of the blue Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:41 Ace wrote: Sorry I should have expounded this point. I sent Mandalor the PM to tell me the info way b4 I accused him publicly. smurf voted for Mandalor a little bit before that time. We're just interested in how he voted for the guy when there were no clues pointing to him, even when we knew he was Mafia and couldn't find a thing. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:45 Ace wrote:Honestly, what was araav offering that made any kind of sense? being able to write a script doesn't help you win Mafia games. It was ridiculous, and it just irks me people even thought about seriously going a long with it. It's like a bandwagon of Mafia members looking for the simplest idea to gather votes, when he's found out Mayor position gets smashed. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:ok, drop the smurfingchobo part. I'm interested to hear about this araav stuff though. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:10 Ace wrote: Thats the thing, several people have already done it. It would have been done so how does that skill help to catch Mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:13 Ace wrote: almost. If they have to kill a certain target I ask them to protect things get tricky. They don't know how many other medics are protecting that target, or if they are the only one. They also cant chance a suicide bomber since they can't find the prime target. ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:13 Ace wrote:Vets can be flushed out also, just takes a bit more time. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:28 Ace wrote: Shallow[Bay] - very off the wall, but is posting clues which helps. He may be a hidden weapon against Mafia if he would stop being so crazy. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:03 Ace wrote:Update This is the plan for the next Day(he person who came up with this idea will remain anonymous, i just improved on it a bit). We know that from the Ghar List, 1 out of 7 of these people are Mafia: Ghar List - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey What I'm asking for is for these 7 people to split their votes. The top 3 will vote for randombum tomorrow, and the bottom 4 will vote for myself. This way neither of us stands a very good chance to get lynched tomorrow and we can see who's what. Once the list is split, we'll count check them both again. So it should look like this: randombum - 3 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Ace -4 Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey If you do not follow this idea, we'll have no choice but to think you're Mafia and autovote to lynch you. I'll be PMing all of you later with this info. I'm also posting this WAY early so no one has the excuse that they did not see it. In addition to that plan, we'll also be splitting the Mandalor Vote. The top 29(excluding me) will vote on Suspect#1 and the bottom 29 will vote on Suspect#2. These suspects will be revealed after tonight. Just like above, anyone who doesn't follow the plan we have no choice but to cast suspicion on them. Double count the #s because my counting may be off. Here's the list: Suspect#1 -29 Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Suspect#2 -29 Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress People on the abstain list or that didn't vote can do what they want. This, along with the way medic protections have been setup tonight will give the mafia a difficult time with targets if they haven't already sent in their hitlist. No matter who dies tonight, this plan will be carried out. Any questions, comments or concerns let them be known. Once again, if you go against this plan we have no choice but to cast suspicions on you. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:07 Ace wrote:indeed. But I doubt there would be a risk of me getting lynched, thats only 4 votes. If anyone hopped on a bandwagon to lynch me when it's so obvious I'm innocent, one of the DTs will count check the list, and if I'm dead speak up and reveal the mafia count. Then we'd cross check all lists and pick them out. So yea, they can do it if they please. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:09 Ace wrote: next vote wont be for a long time. So I'm going to PM everyone. If anybody says they didnt get the PM, didnt read it, or didnt check the thread that would be a far stretch. Not checking blatantly obvious important info for that long? I dont think so. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:17 Ace wrote: thats why I asked for randombum to be voted on. I dont know if he's 100% innocent now but that doesn't matter, 3 or 4 votes wont be enough to lynch either of us. I'll also still have my 6 votes tomorrow. Unless they role block me again, oh well Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:26 Ace wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:27 Ace wrote:they can roleblock me, it really doesn't matter. So far my voting power has had no impact on the game because the only voting we've had so far was on a 100% guilty party. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:12 Ace wrote:it's not 30. One of them is lying about being a medic, so they have their idea as to who is being protected tonight so if they mess up oh shit! Posted in night7/main_page.129 Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:13 Ace wrote: The reason why is because investigating Ghar whether he is innocent or not right now only gets us 1 possible Mafia, whereas this method gets us 11. Posted in night7/main_page.130 Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:10 Ace wrote:reposting: Update This is the plan for the next Day(he person who came up with this idea will remain anonymous, i just improved on it a bit). We know that from the Ghar List, 1 out of 7 of these people are Mafia: Ghar List - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey What I'm asking for is for these 7 people to split their votes. The top 3 will vote for randombum tomorrow, and the bottom 4 will vote for myself. This way neither of us stands a very good chance to get lynched tomorrow and we can see who's what. Once the list is split, we'll count check them both again. So it should look like this: randombum - 3 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Ace -4 Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey If you do not follow this idea, we'll have no choice but to think you're Mafia and autovote to lynch you. I'll be PMing all of you later with this info. I'm also posting this WAY early so no one has the excuse that they did not see it. In addition to that plan, we'll also be splitting the Mandalor Vote. The top 29(excluding me) will vote on Suspect#1 and the bottom 29 will vote on Suspect#2. These suspects will be revealed after tonight. Just like above, anyone who doesn't follow the plan we have no choice but to cast suspicion on them. Double count the #s because my counting may be off. Here's the list: Suspect#1 -29 Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Suspect#2 -29 Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress People on the abstain list or that didn't vote can do what they want. This, along with the way medic protections have been setup tonight will give the mafia a difficult time with targets if they haven't already sent in their hitlist. No matter who dies tonight, this plan will be carried out. Any questions, comments or concerns let them be known. Once again, if you go against this plan we have no choice but to cast suspicions on you. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:33 Ace wrote:dont get too cocky guys, we've only killed one Mafia member and have 19 to go. After tonight though, I think it's going to get very dirty. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:40 Ace wrote:Kinda. Thursday night I'll be gone for a bit. Friday night I might be gone all night and morning, not sure yet. Saturday I'll be gone for sure for a long time sarting around 7 or 8 pm. I'll be throwing a party that doesn't end until 5 or 6am the next morning. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:40 Ace wrote:Eastern Time Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:45 Ace wrote:repost: Also on clues - the Kill Bill theme. Uma Thurman - Beatrix Kiddo / Black Mamba / The Bride David Carradine - Bill / Snake Charmer Lucy Liu - O-Ren Ishii / Cottonmouth Michael Madsen - Budd / Sidewinder Eddie could refer to Edward Bunker. He was a former criminal/troublesome child that became an author and also had a small part in Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir Dogs roles: Michael Madsen as Mr. Blonde Chris Penn as "Nice Guy" Eddie Cabot Steve Buscemi as Mr. Pink Edward Bunker as Mr. Blue Instead of checking for the code names, maybe check people's profiles for anything that pops up in relations to the actors/actresses that played those roles. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:47 Ace wrote: hey someone's gotta lay the pipe on the town prostitutes Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:53 Ace wrote:araav why have you never PM'd me your role yet? Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:57 Ace wrote:wurm I'm waiting on yours also Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:00 Ace wrote:I'm almost certain that wurm is Mafia for now Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:21 Ace wrote:LOL wtf? good luck man Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:28 Ace wrote:lol the two of you really make me wonder sometimes I think Mafia are only keeping you alive just to see your posts Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:30 Ace wrote: we've thought about it. The reason we are going into the group with 7, or at least heavily thinking about it is because that would also confirm 6 people as innocent for sure. It's not always about catching Mafia at some points Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:39 Ace wrote: either way you're almost guaranteed to be Suspect #1 tomorrow. And I think you are being either incredibly stupid or suspicious. I'm going to explain why right now. This is so far, what I know about the Mafia kill list for night 1 looking like: 1.)Mynock 2.)goldenkrnboi 3.)NeaX 4.)Yogurt 5.)OneBlueAugust 6.)X 7.)Y 8.) 9.) 8 and 9 are unexplained, and possible that Mafia sent in more than 1 hit against one of those names. Out of X and Y, one of those names said they got a PM from you claiming to be a Paramedic. So that person survived one hit against them and lived, and got a PM from you saying you're a paramedic that protected them. Interesting. Because that same person also got another PM from another Paramedic claiming they also protected him. Strange. On the first night, the Mafia sent out a kill list with the same person listed TWICE instead of exercising full power? Doubt it. That kill list would look like this: 1.)Mynock 2.)goldenkrnboi 3.)NeaX 4.)Yogurt 5.)OneBlueAugust 6.)X 7.)Y 8.)Y 9.) So I posted that we've got a Medic problem, and PM'd you to ask you your role after you've been dodging the question for days and you still won't answer me. I think you're scum because at this point I doubt any townie would avoid something that would obviously clear up so much confusion. If you really are a medic, then the suspicion stays on you and Mafia probably wont kill you tonight. If you aren't a medic and a vigilante doesn't kill you tonight, then you are certainly on the chopping block tomorrow. And by that point I wouldn't really care what your role was because your excuse is bullshit. Good riddance ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:43 Ace wrote:As of now, following the plan posted earlier: wurm = Suspect #1 Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:48 Ace wrote:for someone on the suspect list you sure are taking this light hearted. Would it help if I told you one of the Vigi's might kill you tonight? Posted in night7/main_page.135 Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 17:54 Ace wrote: even when we knew Mandalor was guilty we tried to look at how the clues pointed him out. Either way wurm is blatantly acting too shady and his logic doesn't add up. Using the excuse that you dont like the way I'm playing the game doesn't mean anything. The townies were free to do as they please this whole time and I didn't even start making my plans public till recently. So I think you're bullshitting. If you really were a medic, too bad. You're getting lynched tomorrow or killed tonight by Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:01 Ace wrote:ok? whats your point? If you're innocent, oh well. There's nothing we can do now you've had a lot of time to prove your innocence. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:16 Ace wrote: if you sent in your save to Chuiu, how about you PM it to me then? If things match up maybe we'll reconsider what we're about to do. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:16 Ace wrote: if it makes you feel better we'll label wurm as suspect #2. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:17 Ace wrote:Mandalor didn't have any clues pointing to him either. This has nothing to do with clues, and all to do with BEHAVIOR. The excuse that people don't like the way I'm playing the game is bull, all wurm had to do was answer a simple question. If he really is a medic what was the point of avoiding giving information that helped the town for so long? It just does not add up. If he's a medic, he's a selfish one at that. Look at the last game and how Alventenie died because a medic didn't protect him. Read the scenario that happened - if case 2 happened where the player was attacked twice wouldn't it make even MORE sense for wurm to contact me and let me know that he protected a high priority target and hey - maybe I should ask him and the other medic to protect them again just in case? This isn't about clues, it's about behavior and right now things are way off. Posted in night7/main_page.138 Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:57 Ace wrote: Of course I'm being tricky about it, can't let the Mafia know the intention of all my posts Posted in night7/main_page.138 Posted in night7/main_page.138 Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 02:02 Ace wrote: right. Even if he doesn't want to listen to my suggestions, if I know who he protected and the person gets hit, whether he lives or dies we can see who the lying medic is by just reconstructing the Mafia hit list. But of course, most people think this is "boring" and just want to add more confusion and anarchy to the town. | ||
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53. Ace (Mayor) Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:08 Ace wrote: the point is even if he does turn up blue, he is making no sense. Just look at his defense when I accused him. Honestly does that sound like anyone who even cares? Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:01 Ace wrote: almost. Behavior and logic holds 1000000 times more importance than clues. No offense intended, but Chuiu's clues are so hard or pointless there is no point in even going for clues first as a reasonable strategy - every townie even remotely connected would get lynched. Also, clues are coming from a third party source and I 'd rather catch Mafia based on their own mishaps and not what the narrator is giving up. Lastly, the game is not even easy at all. Mafia have a distinct advantage because they dont have to collaborate as much as we do, which means inactive players kill us badly. The kill system in this game requires 1 kill list with 9 names. Thats incredibly way too easy. In the games I've admined all Mafia had to PM their targets to me, and they all had to match up so that they could have successful kills. This way inactive Mafia members are just as much as a burden to them. We've got a few inactive townies, but I guess having about only ~20 or less players missing isn't a big deal right? /sarcasm Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:12 Ace wrote:Update This is the plan for the next Day(he person who came up with this idea will remain anonymous, i just improved on it a bit). We know that from the Ghar List, 1 out of 7 of these people are Mafia: Ghar List - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey What I'm asking for is for these 7 people to split their votes. The top 3 will vote for randombum tomorrow, and the bottom 4 will vote for myself. This way neither of us stands a very good chance to get lynched tomorrow and we can see who's what. Once the list is split, we'll count check them both again. So it should look like this: randombum - 3 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Ace -4 Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey If you do not follow this idea, we'll have no choice but to think you're Mafia and autovote to lynch you. I'll be PMing all of you later with this info. I'm also posting this WAY early so no one has the excuse that they did not see it. In addition to that plan, we'll also be splitting the Mandalor Vote. The top 29(excluding me) will vote on Suspect#1 and the bottom 29 will vote on Suspect#2. These suspects will be revealed after tonight. Just like above, anyone who doesn't follow the plan we have no choice but to cast suspicion on them. Double count the #s because my counting may be off. Here's the list: Suspect#1 -29 Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Suspect#2 -29 Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress People on the abstain list or that didn't vote can do what they want. This, along with the way medic protections have been setup tonight will give the mafia a difficult time with targets if they haven't already sent in their hitlist. No matter who dies tonight, this plan will be carried out. Any questions, comments or concerns let them be known. Once again, if you go against this plan we have no choice but to cast suspicions on you. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:15 Ace wrote:waiting for this night to end, but Chuiu is sick I think and Dapperdan isn't around. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:57 Ace wrote: I didn't want to point this part out though, because any townies that do this may accidentally affect totals if say...a Mafia member tried to jump the gun and leave, and then other townies didn't vote also. If enough of them leave the group, we may have a problem. But yes, there is a prevention mechanism for that too. I've already started taking notes on a certain select few peoples behaviors. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:59 Ace wrote: indeed. the good thing about the group of 29 though is that most of those players are active. If 20 out of 29 move the other 9 are in a jam. While technically innocents can move if they please, Mafia cant because they'd affect the total. We jut dont want innocents to move because it would cause too much moving and confusion. Anyone thats innocent doesn't even HAVE a reason to move because they wont get caught. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:00 Ace wrote: after tonight's killings + the info we already know, I'm almost certain tomorrow is going to be nuts. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:12 Ace wrote:I dont have anything on you, you probably started posting actively after I stopped taking notes :/ Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:22 Ace wrote:I dont have notes on a lot of people. only...43 people. btw, what ever happened to Klive5ive? Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:31 Ace wrote:just wondering, you were active in the beginning and kinda disappeared :/ Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:07 Ace wrote:qrs - thinking way too much about the wrong things,however is willing to follow the BodyGuard Plan and has seen how it works out. He questions almost everything I do, which is good but it seems to come from posts other people make. Hopefully it's just enthusiam and not a sheepish mentality over proving my status. Heros)Pink - saying not to put Ghar in position because clues point to him even though they really dont, is vying for Empyrean against me and Ghar. THis dude is very odd, as even when logic stares him in the face he refuses to look. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 12:14 Ace wrote:This is all before Day 2. Empryean claims DT on Mayor voting Day, so early when it isn't even needed much. He is clearly leading to some confusion among the Townies, and is already starting to point fingers (at ahrara). He "concedes" to me after he realizes it's almost a sure bet I will be elected Mayor, and instead Happily settles for Pardoner. He also isn't "defending" himself with any reason when suspicious posts of his are pointed out. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:06 Ace wrote:well, if we're sitting loose that implies anal rape :/ Posted in night7/main_page.143 Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:41 Ace wrote:you know that makes no sense right? Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:05 Ace wrote: explain your math, because right now it's not adding up. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:22 Ace wrote: You're still wrong, Out of those 7 people you think I don't know that some of them are 100% innocent? At this point if you don't realize I'm innocent I cant but help in thinking you're either purposely trying to mislead the town or just plain old haven't been reading the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:31 Ace wrote:[-QUOTE-]On March 26 2008 17:01 Alethios wrote: [-QUOTE-]On March 26 2008 16:52 Ghar wrote: Chuiu, can detectives check abstain lists? [-/QUOTE-] we cant Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:45 Ace wrote: The entire point of the enforced voting to those who can see it is not only to find a Mafia but to find out which townies are 100% innocent. This way after tomorrows votes I possibly won't ever even have to do enforced voting. I'll have enough information on 11 possible mafia targets in no time just by the very fact that I'll know who's innocent + the innocents I know now. It will take 1 turn, and thats only if one of them dont die. The list will be split 4/3. 1 Mafia among them. I already know some of those guy's roles. Once I find out which side the Mafia is on it's going to be at worst 1/4 or 25% chance of finding him without applying prior knowledge. The other half of that list is automatically innocent. How are you figuring it will take us more than 1 turn? 1 detective - 1 turn. Thats it. If people miss votes when they've had WAY more than enough time so be it. It's the burden on the Mafia. If they leave the group and no other townies does then we have our suspect. If he leaves and only 1 or 2 townies do also, BAM we still have our suspect. Where is the failure part of this plan? If all 7 of them vote differently even though some of those people already PM'd me saying they would vote the same to prove their innocence? You're arguments isn't adding up because any innocent townie that would do what's best for the town would see how this works out. Counter what logic? Anyone playing this game that read the plan knows I'm innocent right now. It's impossible for me to be Mafia. Just because you cooked up some fabled scenario for some reason to confuse the town doesn't mean the rest of us are going to buy it. That post was the silliest set of logic leaps I've seen and it clearly shows you are up to something. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:57 Ace wrote:a regular cultist? wtf are you talking about. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:02 Ace wrote:sigh, ok. Keep talking whatever nonsense keeps you happy. We'll ask you to go forward with the plan tomorrow, and whether or not your with us we'll do what we can. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:13 Ace wrote:I just answered that in the previous post. There is no DT flaw as there are no Godfather roles. Which means the DT answers to someone's role always is 100% correct. Where's the flaw? There is no way that all 4 DTs are inactive with me knowing Mandalor was Mafia + getting a vote count. That takes care of your DT flaw. What do you mean work? The 58 person split is not only to find Mafia, but to find out who's innocent. I don't know how many times we have to tell you this but you keep beating it into your head that there's some magical flaw. I'm not Cross Referencing anything. But above all else, I have at least 3 times as much information as YOU do. So obviously I know exactly why this plan works in ways you could never even fathom. Don't tell me you really think I accused wurm by accident? The Mafia isn't the only one playing mind games this time around. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:30 Ace wrote:You're wrong. If a DT asks someone's role, regular mafia are revealed as MAFIA otherwise there would be no point in only being able to ask twice. Mafia is a ROLE. Doesn't matter if it's special or not. I get a lot more than you think. If I already know that in that first half of 29 that 10 are innocent, and then it comes out that 6 of those are Mafia to YOU it looks like 6/29 but to me it looks like 6/19. And of those 19, there may be circumstances I know about that implicates some of them and frees others where it can drop down to even 6/15 and lower. I've told you this before, I know much more information than you do so I have no need to Cross Reference lists first. I can do that AFTER but there's no point in doing that with 58 people when I could save 4 times the work by splitting the list in half and comparing it with the info I already know. I said that in the hopes that you'd realize everything I've done so far is more than what it seems. Sometimes the simplest explanation isn't best. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:34 Ace wrote:so list them. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 01:15 Ace wrote: That just might happen. I was thinking about it last night and its very possible that may be a better course of action. As long as those 7 are there, Mafia can't kill any of them without tightening the noose on that suspects neck. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 07:44 Ace wrote:wonder whats going on Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:58 Ace wrote:Can't believe dinsmab got hit, that was really odd. But in other news, a lot of good has come out of this. And yes, ShadowDrgn was a vigi kill. We're still going along with the plan. If wurm would have told me earlier things would have been avoided for sure, so Night 3 we are probably going to have a huge problem now that LucasWoj is dead. Current Plan of Action Voting pattern 1 - randombum. useLess aZnvaLiaNce voting pattern 2 - Ace Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey The people on the randombum and Ace lists will vote accordingly so we can figure out which of these guys is Mafia while vindicating innocents. And yes I split it 2/4 on purpose. Suspect #1 = wurm Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Suspect #2 = ghar (for now) Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress People on the suspect #1 and #2 lists vote in that way so we can figure out who the 10 Mafia people are. People that abstained in the Day 2 votes should either abstain again or vote for anyone else but the 4 names listed. Basically just dont hop on any of those lists for now. Anyone going against the plan right now just has to be labeled suspicious. I expected a medic to die, but I didn't expect THAT DT to die. Posted in night7/main_page.153 Posted in night7/main_page.153 Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:17 Ace wrote:We'll figure out if Ghar is Mafia really soon. But the whole wurm thing really fucked us up. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:23 Ace wrote:oh yea, forgot... we might just use 2 DTs to count check the lists of 29 (which are shorter than they really are cuz of deaths) and keep the other 6 alive. Using 1 DT to role check a highly suspected person. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:46 Ace wrote: well...dinmsab had 1 left b4 he died Unfortunately we may have to use one on wurm As you can tell we really didnt want to do that. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:57 Ace wrote:The vigi killed ShadowDragon. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:03 Ace wrote:yep Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:45 Ace wrote:I'm in school right now, but as Emp asked I'm going to post a lot of info when I get back home because I don't think I emailed myself the updated Medic Protection list. We'll also reconstruct the Mafia kill list. I expected a Medic to die because almost all of them were paired up, and 1 or maybe 2 had 1 target assigned so I was thinking the Mafia would figure out a way to hit at least 1 of them. Also it seemed a lot of info was passed around Day 1 before I even got a lot of the medics info. The problem with wurm is that we didn't even suspect he was the fake medic until we started checking who told us what and it didn't add up. So we had to change everything because the real suspect couldn't be caught if we couldnt even get our supposedly real medics in order. See the dilemnna? Now we had 2 suspected medics being faked. Wurm fucked us over because the original protection plan had to change, and I had to send a new order out to one of the medics. That medic I'm sure is innocent, but since he isn't proven 100% innocent and I sent him info twice (2 different names) I'm sure you guys can see where the problem is if he's the Mafia medic - I gave out way too much info. Wurm is still acting suspect, and at this point I'm sure he is no longer any use to the town. The other medics should pm me who they protected last night and if they got hit. Anyone that got hit should let me know asap. We have to solve this medic problem asap because like I said today shit would hit the fan. The Mafia caught a DT and one of my BGs but it could have been a lot more damaging. This voting plan has to proceed so we can get rid of these 11 Mafia by Day 5 at the latest and drop their killing power ridiculously. I'm close to declaring a double lynch today just so they can't do anything on Day 4 when the noose is much tighter. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:48 Ace wrote:Also, can you guys get back into discussing that "bum" clue? Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:01 Ace wrote:No shit wurm? Thats the whole reason we needed you to report in just so we can strengthen any holes to see who got protected. DUH. The Mafia would have to be pretty stupid not to kill you knowing you're a medic. They have a kill list of 9, and have failed twice to fully exercise it. throwing you on there is a sure fire kill for them, keeping you alive for the town to lynch is wa waste for them because if you're found innocent then they are day behind on medic kills and surely it would be harder to kill you by Night 3. I'd never even let them know if I knew you were truly innocent or not, let them take the chances and be stupid - IF you're innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:26 Ace wrote:Mafia Kill list for Night 3 1.) dinsmab 2.) JeeJee 3.) FrenchToast 4.) Fish_Ball 5.) Lucas)Woj 6.) target 6 7.) Showtime 8.) 9.) No idea if there was a target 8 or 9 as of now. Plans French_Toast was arguing that I made the game too easy at one point, Townies go back to that point in the thread and check out all the people siding with him. Scan the thread for that copperhead quote or instances relating to it - "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" Vote according the plan. The list will be updated later, along with a list of people that didn't vote, a list of people that never PM'd me their roles. Medic protections that need to be public LucasWoj to protected Showtime last night. Showtime took a hit. wurm allegedly protected Plexa last night. Plexa who has been somewhat active still hasn't sent me a role PM. Right now a few things will happen: 1.) We are possibly going to role check wurm. If he's innocent we've just wasted one due to his stupidity anyway. 2.) The lists will be split and vote checked 3.) we'll figure out if that bum clue points to randombum or bumatlarge 4.) we will end this medic problem by today 5.) I may declare a double lynch just so I can't be role blocked on day 4, and to get more info on suspects. Find out if there was a target 8 and 9 Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:27 Ace wrote:you know what, nevermind. I'm going along with the plan to lynch wurm. We are not wasting a role check on that. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:32 Ace wrote:That would be stupid - it wasn't a sure fire thought to know wurm would be lynched. They have a kill list of NINE - using 1 spot to kill wurm a surefire medic wouldn't be a bad idea. Either way, wurm has shown he doesnt want to cooperate and basically gave us the FU messing things up. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:41 Ace wrote:wurm is by all accounts, not useful. If he's innocent we just get closer to finding out who the fake Mafia medic is. @Mandalor: he asked if he could do it Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:46 Ace wrote:LucasWoj said he protected showtime who got hit No Vigilante put a hit on Showtime, therefore Showtime is Innocent Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:47 Ace wrote: There is no "wasting a lynch". Read all of wurms posts and tell me if you honestly think he is any benefit to the town. Go ahead, I'll wait. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 01:57 Ace wrote:Why couldnt he know that? Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 01:57 Ace wrote: if we kill wurm, it brings us one step closer to solving the medic problem either way Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:08 Ace wrote:ok so to be fair let's have a mini vote: Townies what should we do: A.) Use a Detective role check on wurm or B.) Lynch wurm anyway Vote on it Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:11 Ace wrote:Scorch: Lucas PM'd me telling me Showtime got hit. Lucas was a medic, confirmed through death. Why would he lie? Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:20 Ace wrote:Ok so lets do it like this: a.) check if that clue about severed head points to Ghar b.) role check wurm c.) lynch wurm anyway I think that covers everything right? Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:01 Ace wrote:I'm not at home Showtime! so no IRC for me. I'm declaring a Double Lynch. I'll update the town with more info on the Ghar clue soon. since everyoen gets 2 votes: Use your first vote to follow the original voting plan. Do whatever you wish with the second vote. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:32 Ace wrote:dont name any names, but how many of them are in there? Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:40 Ace wrote: good point. I figured most would do it anyway since neither myself or randombum are major suspects. randombum still hasnt ever been rolechecked though. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:57 Ace wrote:Wurm is still suspect #1 right now. Allegedly bumatlarge claimed to be mafia, so he is suspect #2 from now on Waiting on more info. No idea how araav got the info, but whoever told it to him PM me. If no one does we'll just have to assume he somehow found out and he's mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.163 Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:17 Ace wrote:@Falcynn: No one could have found the room even by accident. So why use codenames? Only people we are sure are 100% innocent have the info. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:23 Ace wrote: cant. Even the blues that have access dont know everyone's roles. The only people that have that info are myself and the Bodyguards. ho ho ho. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:40 Ace wrote:I dont think we should go to lengths to berate him until he has a chance to speak. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:08 Ace wrote:honestly it wasnt all blue. There were at most 6 people in there...hardly enough to do much. @RTS: tomorrow I'm going to fix the voting up. No one should be using any votes on Ghar, myself, randombum, or wurm if they didnt vote in the original scenarios. Whatever happens with the random voting, oh well. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:55 Ace wrote:good lord wtf is going on Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:05 Ace wrote:I'll get all of this under control soon, I have to finish trying to clean up some mess. For now everyone just stop arguing in the thread. Right now I'm convinced that most of the people posting actively are innocent and a lot of mafia are not talking purposely. I've got a lot of information to go through, and I'll post some results soon along with how people should be voting. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:18 Ace wrote:also where the hell is the last Vigi Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:37 Ace wrote:@QRS: thats the way I took it. I'm not even upset that someone got in the room. Really, it just makes things even more challenging lol. I was more curious than anything. I've also just realized I might know how dinmsab got killed. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:21 Ace wrote:well, the towel reference + wurm's weird behavior and uncooperative approach is surely leading to his death. Waiting on info from the Ghar scenario. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:43 Ace wrote:Well this much is certain, Ghar is about to be dropped off the suspect list. Whether he is Mafia or not right now isn't a concern. Bumatlarge is suspect #2, and wurm is suspect #1. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:47 Ace wrote:This is what happened with dinsmab which made me suspect him of possibly lying when he first claimed DT: he role checked someone, and sent the PM to myself AND randombum. He told us both he was a Detective, and that if he died that day one of us was surely mafia. With the recent evidence linking a bum to the murders either the mafia got really lucky or randombum snitched. I'll let you guys figure it out. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:48 Ace wrote:oh to clarify the reason I thought he lied was because he sent the PM so early about someone else, without enough time going by to know if I was innocent or not. Basically my thinking was he coulda been guilty but after a day I knew he wasn't. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:18 Ace wrote:random we arent going to role check you. I'm just posting a lot more info because people are complaining the game is boring. After today's plan we'll stop playing so "careful" and just let the chaos ensure. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:37 Ace wrote:exactly, but also dont vote for myself or randombum unless unless you're obviously innocent and knowing that wont effect the ratios. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:37 Ace wrote:I've been gone for a while guys, I had classes today. Posts coming up shortly. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:59 Ace wrote:Ok first point of business. Even though there is a Double Lynch in effect, still only vote according to the strategy unless otherwise stated. Firstly, suspect #1 = wurm The only people that should be voting for wurm no matter what are these players: Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever Naib Hittegods SoleSteeler NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR WURM! Likewise, suspect #2 = Ghar The only people voting for Ghar no matter what should be these people: Romance_us Plexa Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR Ghar! Now that you guys know that, this is the rest of the plan. These players should vote like this: randombum - 2 useLess aZnvaLiaNce Ace -4 Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey Thats it. However, we know only 1 of those 6 are Mafia. Any innocent townie that wants to prove their innocence can vote on either myself or randombum BUT watch the vote count to make sure you don't accidentally lynch one of us. If you don't even want to risk it vote on ANYONE else except those 4 names, or just abstain. Please do this asap because we dont have much time. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:07 Ace wrote:Also the only reason I'm putting ghar instead of bumatlarge as suspect #2 is because at first glance, not enough people caught the change. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:45 Ace wrote:This is what the voting situation looks like right now: Current Vote Count: Suspect #1 = Wurm MidnightGladius ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace(x6) Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib zeks TranceStorm Amber[LighT] bumatlarge Puosu Kau fusionsdf crazie-penguin Alethios ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever BWdero Empyrean Hittegods unsoundlogic suspect #2 = Ghar QRS Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks GeneralStan wurm bumatlarge HotZhot fusionsdf crazie-penguin Scorch ieatkids5 Showtime! fanatacist Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress randombum aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob Ace Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf Showtime! CDRdude wurm Kau iNfuNdiBuLuM Lenwe qrs ahrara_ bumatlarge MTF 0cz3c SpiritoftheTuna GranDim Pangolin Plexa ~OpZ~ BloodyC0bbler fanatacist Jimtudor NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr LostYourSkills MTF Zeks aZnvaLiaNce Ninja4ever NatsuTerran Chezinu fusionsdf MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink Alethios MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink useless BloodyC0bbler STR BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy ShaLLoW[baY] Plexa ~OpZ~ Siefu BlindAlbino ZBiR KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo smurfingchobo Klive5ive Abstain GrayArea L Dr.Dragoon Ghar wurm Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Klive5ive Meta KH1031 0cz3c Falcynn Amber[LighT] HotZhot Puosu Hollander Ninja4ever LTT BWdero KF91 Jimtudor Romance_us Hittegods Artanis[Xp] Bockit unsoundlogic caller showtime Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 10:46 Ace wrote:ok Townies, I really have to get out of here. Can you guys make sure the voting is fixed the way it's supposed to be? I cant regulate it all as I have to be going, but PLEASE don't let this get messed up. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 06:48 Ace wrote:1.) I also mentioned about 20 pages ago that the towel clue could have referred to wurm. 2.) The DT that was supposed to check the Ghar clue never did, and I wasnt around to make sure he could get pardoned. 3.) It was much more than wurm not cooperating, and I've explained this 1000 times. 4.) I'll probably just lay back and let you guys do as you please, I already know how to win the game but due to constant bitching I think I'll be silent and do things on my own. Have fun. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:54 Ace wrote:I didn't quit, remember I told you guys I would be throwing a party Saturday night (last night). Got home at about 11am, exhausted. Slept, and had to do a ton of things. I've got class tomorrow so who knows when I'll be very active. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:56 Ace wrote:Also, can all the DTs and Medics PM me if they haven't used their abilities yet? I've got a lot of catching up to do. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 02:03 Ace wrote:I'll post just about everything I can later. I've been hella busy. New104 died because of an incident with mandalor, but they couldn't kill him before. The lag between nights and the fact that some people never were cooperating fucked up a lot of protections for Night 3. dinmsab had verified Emp, who had verified me. New104 was never verified but we beleived he was a DT because of a few things. Showtime and Emp were acting suspicious all the time to draw attention away from other targets, and make the Mafia want to keep them alive. They failed to kill both of them before. They did pretty damn well and as you can see it doesn't matter if too many blues die as long as they do what's needed at the right times. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:40 Ace wrote:We still aren't sure. When I say tried to keep them alive, I should really have said "barely put effort into killing them" since afaik Showtime! was only hit once before, and I don't think Emp ever got hit. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:52 Ace wrote:hmm ok. Chew on this for a while: Empyrean was roleblocked yesterday. I'm roleblocked today. From: New104 Subject: Re: Detective Ability Date: 4/2/08 03:13 1. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3? old message: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler are all confirmed innocent Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:53 Ace wrote:Day 3 vote count for Ace: Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:56 Ace wrote:The first thing is the PM from New104, he vote checked and found 1 Mafia in the list. The list is: Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. I also got another set of info confirming that these people are all innocent: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler Which shortens our list down to this: Ace - 7(6) Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) <--innocent Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:01 Ace wrote:well, we also have a problem with useless being MIA. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:06 Ace wrote:yea focus on those "6". For now I think 2 out of those 6 are innocent also, which really means 1 in 4. I'm so busy atm that I cant put all the data and PMs together that I have. The next step, along with these 6 is to check out the people who have voted and not posted a lot. Chuiu hasn't kicked out any inactives as far as I know so the town is much farther away from where we need to be. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:08 Ace wrote:useless should have voted for randombum. One of the other Mafia could have potentially hopped on the bandwagon of my vote to "save" useless, but I doubt it. It's just something I'm pointing out. So for now we have to assume aznvaliance and useless are both innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:11 Ace wrote:yea I wont release those names yet. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 06 2008 05:33 Ace wrote:Where the hell is everyone else? Inactivity is hurting right now. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 05:50 Ace wrote:well people talking in general helps. No one except a few people are discussing anything. You guys really don't need to take orders from me at this point, I think a lot of info is in the open that will help catch many mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:15 Ace wrote:I haven't voted yet only because I'm so busy I can't do so much thinking at once Posted in night7/main_page.190 Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 15:26 Ace wrote:well since no one is really communicating anymore, I'm hoping the medics PM me again. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 18:00 Ace wrote:another DT gave me that info Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 02:35 Ace wrote: I backed up Showtime to make it LOOK as if he was important. I knew he was just a townie, and he did a good job of drawing attention away from better targets. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 02:38 Ace wrote: its not really a problem at all. The reason I was avoiding specific role checks was just because of this and why I wanted to get vote checks asap. In case so many Dts died enough info from lists would be available to the public to carry on without them. So far it seems to be working well. For the next vote, I'd propose splitting the lists again. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:45 Ace wrote:TranceStorm - 13 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim 1 of these people are Mafia Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:55 Ace wrote: MTF rpf bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius unsoundlogic This would be my final list, but I'm mainly looking at bumatlarge because of that other clue from day 3 was it? The "bum" clue. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 02:56 Ace wrote: I forgot to take MTF off my list thats all We're going to settle this whole fusion/useless/evilmonkey thing tomorrow. But that other list with clues pointing at bumatlarge/randombum gives us a good shot to nail a definite mafia right now. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 07:09 Ace wrote:I do Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 02:11 Ace wrote:I had Seifu down as a suspect since Day 3 iirc. He voted but never posted, I have a list of those people but I lost it SOMEWHERE. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:20 Ace wrote:no idea, but I'm even more surprised that someone killed bumatlarge... THANK god I mad sure not every BG was in that channnel Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:23 Ace wrote: if we didn't have inactives this wouldnt even be an issue Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:29 Ace wrote:it was why would we make that up? All the blues weren't in there though Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:30 Ace wrote:also medics hit me back with info to let me know what happened last night Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:00 Ace wrote:New104 didnt send me that "confirmed Innocent" list. I also thought that it was fishy when I got the list how they were "confirmed". Thanks for pointing that out because if thats the case and the person lied we REALLY got screwed. Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:02 Ace wrote:The medic issue wasn't resolved because the town was following a different lead, so I let it go. And once again ALL THE BLUES WERE NOT THERE. This should be obvious by now. Either way I think I know who's getting lynched tomorrow, and if this happens we got screwed hard. Either way... Chuiu what are you doing about inactives?. Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:08 Ace wrote:The person who claimed jack of all trades Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:09 Ace wrote:actually let's just lynch that person anyway, shall we? Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:11 Ace wrote:Ok this is the series of PMs. This person also had access to the channel: Subject: Re: mafia Date: 3/31/08 15:01 yea i meant bumatlarge ----------------------------------------- Original Message: you mean you vote checked everyone that voted for bumatlarge? This is the list I see: bumatlarge - 11 MTF d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa fanatacist Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) Scorch(2) Where's Scorch and Spirit from? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: yea you never told me what to do so i just vote checked random bum ----------------------------------------- Original Message: oh you used DT powers? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler are all confirmed innocent ----------------------------------------- Original Message: if so you'll probably want to check some counts, but dont PM anyone else except caller or lenwe while I'm away. They'll definitely know what to do at the moment since I'm not here. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: yea im sure i could get away with using detective (if not its worth a try ) ----------------------------------------- Original Message: hmmm no idea yet. Night hasnt come yet, so we'll see when I get back. you have what left? vigi,medic and vet right? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: You still havent pm'd me what to do and time is running out. unless you want me to go vigi on someones ass? Posted in night7/main_page.199 Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 17:19 Ace wrote:because no one should have known his ID. So why would I protect someone who was essentially invisible? That was pointless. At this point it's too much of a coincidence that everyone that was in that channel got axed AND he had a confirmed innocent list that didn't match up. The only thing bugging me is the inactives because if we lynch this guy and he turns out Mafia I will be seriously upset it could have been solved by Day 2. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:15 Ace wrote: hasn't it occured to your dumbass yet that I've tried to PREVENT you guys from lynching innocents countless times? The whole reason I kept ignoring the Ghar stuff was because I was sure he was innocent. Likewise I ignored people saying Caller was mafia. It should be really obvious to anyone right now why I ignore certain things most of you post. The information did not leak. The only thing anyone could have access to was the channel. People could reveal their roles to each other if they pleased, but no one really did. And no one except myself and the Bggs had the role list so the mafia didn't get much info anyway. Stop bitching. I'm getting tired of your shit, so I'm putting my votes to lynch you and possibly the other guy when I finish reading this thread. I'm declaring a double lynch Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:16 Ace wrote: I dont control them, I just make suggestions. I said we shouldn't kill chezinu because no one checked fusion yet, and I thought Chezinu was innocent because he told me beforehand he would jump on that list to prove his innocence. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:22 Ace wrote: I've pegged Seifu as Mafia because of voting but not posting ever. Which is a strange behavior for a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:28 Ace wrote:Also, I think it's too much of a coincidence things happened to work out with the kills tonight. The fact that he "messed up" the confirmed innocent list also is an issue. That was my first suspicion but the only thing holding me back is no one else claimed Jack of All Trades. If the town wants that name released just let me know. Warning, if this guy turns out Mafia we are in more trouble with inactives then I thought. Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 04:27 Ace wrote:If you haven't realized by now I am holding all the cards - the whole point of me not telling you guys certain info publicly is so that Mafia don't know who was really revealed innocent (thereby wasting killing power). Everyone that was in communication knew I thought Ghar was innocent. I only listed him as suspect #2 so people could THINK I thought he was mafia. Just because I don't tell YOU anything it doesn't mean I don't know whats going on. I let the town do as they please after the wurm incident because of people like you, constant bitching. Even when townies act stupid and we give good reason to lynch them there's always an asshat like you complaining. I had nothing to do with Trancestorm dying, I had nothing to do with the Vigis killing Chezinu, and I had no way of knowing we'd have a fake jack because if people are inactive I can't do shit about it. And since dead people can't post, I'm forever voting qrs to be lycnhed in the hopes that he dies and shuts the fuck up. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:44 Ace wrote: agreed. One of those 3 are a better shot than Fusion atm. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:58 Ace wrote:I'm responding to a lot of PMs right now. I agree with EvilMonkey, not azn yet. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:17 Ace wrote:Ok here's what we know about last night for sure - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POST Mafia Kill List for Night 4 1.)Hittegods 2.)xDark.Carnivalx 3.)Lenwe (protected once) - Medic #1 4.)Lenwe 5.)Caller 6.)Meta All of these were legit - now here's something interesting. 7.) Plexa (protected) Medic2 8.)Plexa (protected) Medic3 9.) Plexa (protected again) Medic4 (not confirmed yet) 10.) Jack (I told him to put vet status on) took 1 hit 11.) Jack (protected) Medic 5 or 10 +11 is true. Either way something is wrong. This is all based on the Night Kills + info I got from medics and the Jack. As you can see, something does NOT add up. How could Plexa be protected 3 times and the Jack get hit as a vet and saved? Plexa how many hits were you informed about taking last night? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:20 Ace wrote: Plexa is almost guaranteed innocence with how many times he was targetted in the past few days. For him to be guilty 3 medics would have to be lying. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:23 Ace wrote: The first 6 all make sense with what we know - 1 kill for each and a 2nd listing for Lenwe since he took a hit. The last 5 are odd. The Mafia have/had a killing power of 9. The PMs I got add up to 11 actions. One of the 3 medics I told to protect Plexa is lying, and/or the Jack and th medic I told to protect him is lying. I don't know if he really assumed Vet status and got hit, or both since I don't know how Chuiu decides. If the Jack turned Vet and got hit, does 1 protection count or is the vet extra life counted first? If the extra life is counted first does that mean the medic is still informed and the target(Jack) also? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:28 Ace wrote:1.) Only the Jack knew of the chatroom 2.) The jack didn't have access to the list 3.) we already know there is a lying Medic in the bunch Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:35 Ace wrote:I seriously think EvilMonkey is Mafia. I think everyone else of those original 7 are innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:43 Ace wrote:I'm going through past PMs and on April 1st(should be for Day 3 votes) Empyrean informed me that 1 Mafia voted for Showtime!. The list from Day 3 is this: Showtime! - 11 CDRdude wurm(2) <- dead Kau(2) < - dead iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) <- dead qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) ulszz araav(2) Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:45 Ace wrote:Also remember I got the PM about how many Mafia voted for me on Day 3 from New104 so it's legit. Only ONE of these people are Mafia: Ace - 7 Chezinu < - dead Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm < - dead fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:50 Ace wrote:Remember we are under a double lynch system. So it's advantageous for us to vote for 2 top suspects. I'm agreeing with Plexa on EvilMonkey and Seifu. Especially Seifu since he ONLY votes and never posts. edited, had a mistake in this post earlier. Posted in night7/main_page.210 Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:07 Ace wrote:BlindAlbino MTF HotZhot all have you voted on right now Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:27 Ace wrote:Hotzot must have just changed then. Plexa should be changing soon. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:32 Ace wrote:Right now everyone vote for EvilMonkey and Seifu no matter what We'll continue discussing other things at the same time, but don't get your votes sidetracked. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:15 Ace wrote:I changed it Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:35 Ace wrote:Quick check of people that barely posted (up to #38 on the list): so no fek - voted Day 1 but nothing else fen - never voted or PM'd Dr.Dragoon - voted everyday but never PM'd me his role ieatkids5 - voted everyday except Day 1 Wizard - never voted but sent me a role PM Puosu - voted Days 3 and 4 ulszz - voted Day 3 for Showtime! + no role PM Alethios - voted everyday infinity21 - never voted + no role PM ZBiR - voted everyday except Day 4 SiZ.FaNtAsY - voted Day 2 + no role PM Vharox - never voted or role PM Unforgiven_ve - voted everyday except day 3 fgsvsd - done nothing at all KF91 - everything except vote Day 1 Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 17:43 Ace wrote:Scorch we've already got it under control, I can't release the name yet though. Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 04:33 Ace wrote:Check list of people that barely post so no fek - voted Day 1 but nothing else fen - never voted or PM'd Dr.Dragoon - voted everyday but never PM'd me his role ieatkids5 - voted everyday except Day 1 Wizard - never voted but sent me a role PM Puosu - voted Days 3 and 4 ulszz - voted Day 3 for Showtime! + no role PM Alethios - voted everyday infinity21 - never voted + no role PM ZBiR - voted everyday except Day 4 SiZ.FaNtAsY - voted Day 2 + no role PM Vharox - never voted or role PM Unforgiven_ve - voted everyday except day 3 fgsvsd - done nothing at all KF91 - everything except vote Day 1 str - never voted smurfingchobo - missed Day 1 and Day 2 Kuja900 - missed Day 2, 4 and no role PM GranDim - voted everyday Artanis[Xp] - voted everyday except Day 4 LoStYouRSkiLLS - only voted Day 1 and nothing else Lysithea - did everything fanatacist - did everything SoleSteeler - did everything KorvspaD - only sent me a role PM, never voted GeneralStan - voted everyday except day 4 Ziel - didnt vote days 2 and 4, no role PM Supah - only abstained on Day 3, no role PM jtan - did nothing BWdero - done everything AcrossFiveJulys - after Day 1 never voted again butidigress - did everything Jimtudor - did everything spoinka - never voted after day 1 unsoundlogic - didnt vote Day 1 decafchicken - did everything DamageControL - never did anything omfghi2u2 - never did anything RowdierBob - only voted Day 1, nothing else AmorVincitOmnia - never did anything wysp - abstained every day and didn't vote day 4 BuGzlToOnl - voted on days 2 and 4 (nemy both times) + no role PM GrayArea - voted Day 1 and abstained every day after, no role PM crazie-penguin - voted Day 1 and abstained every day after DTDominion - never did anything zeks - voted everyday except Day 4 useLess - did everything except vote Day 3 (when he REALLY should have) and didn't send role PM G.s)NarutO - voted Day 1 and Day 4, no role PM Evilmonkey - voted everyday except day 1 Klive5ive - did everything KH1031 - did everything rpf - did everything Analysis of this list First: 2 birds with one stone The first issue is useless. When EvilMonkey is lynched if he turns out to be green then useless is the #1 suspect. He didn't vote when we asked him to and was active every other time. The only thing saving him is that the list had 1 mafia member again. That would mean that Opz would have to be Mafia by default as he's the only new name in the list still alive. But then that implicates both of them since 1 Mafia would have just replaced another. If EM turns out green, both of them are Mafia. I'm going to double check my info one more time to make sure this holds up. Second: in-actives/low laying scum People that are inactive on that list fall under the category of doing nothing or voting early/rarely and then leaving. Some people abstained all days but that shows activity so they are only listed here if I don't have a role PM from them.These people are: so no fek fen wizard ulszz infinity21 SiZ.FaNtAsY vharox fgsvsd str kuja900 lostyourskills korspaD Ziel Supah jtan AcrossFiveJulys damagecontrol omfghi2u2 Rowdierbob AmorVincitOmnia BuGzlToOnl GrayArea DTdominion Almost everyone on this list is pretty much useless to the town. They are either inactive or lying low Mafioso. By now these players would surely have done something and I'm asking the town to focus on this list and cross reference them with any other lists and clue analysis we have. They are all good for lynching since none of them contribute so it doesn't matter if they are innocent or not. Once again, these players are either inactive or Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 11:20 Ace wrote:Even if you're 100% confirmed townie right now there's no point in telling you certain things. If I told you I just might as well tell the whole town and mess up the whole plan. Some things we're trying to do just don't need to be public knowledge because it has no effect on the town - just let the town do what they do w/o knowing so we can catch more mafia without distractions. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 12:08 Ace wrote:Ok here's what we know about last night for sure - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POST - REVISED Mafia Kill List for Night 4 1.)Hittegods 2.)xDark.Carnivalx 3.)Lenwe (protected once) - Medic #1 4.)Lenwe 5.)Caller 6.)Meta All of these were legit - now here's something interesting. 7.) Plexa (protected) Medic2 8.)Plexa (protected) Medic3 9.) Jack (I told him to put vet status on) took 1 hit 10.) Jack (protected) Medic 5 9+10 has to count as 1 action for this to be true. This is the final kill list for Mafia last night. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:38 Ace wrote:heh just checked my notepad of "initial impressions" from way back when the game started. EvilMonkey - nonsense posts Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:45 Ace wrote: I think someone said something about an Australian being Mafia, which would put spotlight on LostYourSkills. Also a couple of names that always pop up in my PMs: Ninja4ever MidnightGladius L Eti307 those 4 are on that Mandalor list. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 20:02 Ace wrote:a couple of people think the repeated number of 3's point to him. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 20:17 Ace wrote:Days 3 and 4 are probably a good place to check things out then. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 21:53 Ace wrote:On another note along with clue finding the next order of business: check posts that caused innocents to be lynched. Looking through the thread and seeing who advocated to lynch Ghar and Trancestorm will help us a lot. Likewise, looking to see who wanted to prevent EvilMonkey and Mandalor lynchings would be a good idea also. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 22:03 Ace wrote:I don't see why it's not a valid accusation. I was looking at his quote and the "I am a newbie" thing stood out to me, because Joe seems to have that newbie persona about him. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 22:07 Ace wrote:MTF don't worry, as more info becomes available that list is going to get better. It's pretty helpful right now so we know who our "inactives" are and how to treat them. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:38 Ace wrote: you got it mixed up. That isn't the list of people to have voted on me day 3 from New104. That list of people is from the Jack that turned out false, he said he made a mistake and asked for randombum but gave me the results of bumatlarge's list. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:40 Ace wrote:The mere fact that you guys are STILL questioning my innocence just begs me to ask: why? Posted in night7/main_page.218 Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:28 Ace wrote:sometimes they just might be that obvious though. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 04:26 Ace wrote: interesting list because none of these people are on my 100% innocent list Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 04:33 Ace wrote:just a couple of things - Caller as doing an excellent job of pointing out potential mafia. He might have been the first person to pin EvilMonkey. I'm just going through past PMs here: Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 11:20 Ace wrote:I've been roleblocked for Day/Night 6 Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 11:23 Ace wrote:Also, we are going to focus on that Mandalor list of 10 mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 11:32 Ace wrote:Of the Mandalor list the good news is that 0 of the 10 mafia that voted have been caught- we've caught mafia off the list so far. Just removing people that have been somewhat posting/helpful + people that have some kind of possibility of being innocent: clazziquai ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan nemY Eti307 suresh0t randombum Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever Naib SoleSteeler Romance_us RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve SoMuchBetter ieatkids5 SonuvBob This list has 26 names. The people that have their names removed are still suspects, but I just wanted to shorten the list to more concrete amount. From now on, focus on these people mainly. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:22 Ace wrote:good work MTF Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:23 Ace wrote:where's that from Camilto? Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:28 Ace wrote:we need all the clue lists posted in one place once again to make comparison's easier. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:12 Ace wrote:and we'll be possibly 100% lynching another mafia member tomorrow. Can't wait Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:15 Ace wrote:Also, reading The Wolf's clues he seems to have good eyesight or good accuracy. Can he possibly pinpoint targets from a distance? Also notice in every encounter The Wolf's targets end up on the ground. Sureshot's profile pic is somewhat ominous in this regard. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:36 Ace wrote:Mr.Red could be Solesteeler, someone called him out before on this based on the rebar clue. Maybe he keeps losing balance because his shoes are messed up? Soles are the bottom part of the shoe. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:47 Ace wrote:looking at MTF's list, King Brown Snake ~ smurfhingchobo? smurfs are short. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:50 Ace wrote:no idea how you came up with SoT as Mr.Red. What's the basis? Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 17:15 Ace wrote: Is it the narcissism thing that makes you think so? Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 17:19 Ace wrote:me too, but it's one of my favorite FFs. Eddie as Lostyourskills is a pretty good catch. nm edited, I already read the explanation for Jimtudor. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 19:55 Ace wrote:Camilto, if BlindAlbino is mafia then he's defending his buddies and false implicating innocents. MTF is going all out before he possibly gets taken out which is a good thing. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:27 Ace wrote:Yea the day post is late right? Keke the night must be filled with tons of murder Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:28 Ace wrote:in recent news I'm 5th in the Liquibet ranking w00t! Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:30 Ace wrote:also if the #s in Snake Charmer's paragrapg add up to 46 the next day it's we assume Master of Chaos is mafia right? Posted in night7/main_page.228 Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:40 Ace wrote:er....wow lol Posted in night7/main_page.229 Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 02:26 Ace wrote:hopefully this day post reveals enough info for us to get where we need to be. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 02:39 Ace wrote:how are you so sure you're dead? afaik no vigi's put a hit out on you. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 16:05 Ace wrote: because the jack was the one who fucked up and had overwhelming clues pointing to him. We tried to solve it the best way possible (especially knowing he'd probably be dead). Well my top two suspects are Heros)Pink and L. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 16:10 Ace wrote:actually, I knew I should have went with my gut instinct last week. I'm 99% sure Heros)Pink is mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.235 Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:28 Ace wrote:BREAKING NEWS Ok L has been confirmed Mafia. I'll explain to you guys the plan we used and why we used it. Sadly, decafchicken messed up the list making us think he was guilty. KH1031 said he protected decaf the night before, so either both of them were mafia or , KH1031 was innocent. So we told decaf to go vigi and kill KH1031. If KH1031 didn't die, we knew decaf was Mafia. So as a failsafe I added another plan. In the event they are BOTH innocent, put one of our suspicious medics on Decaf. We thought decaf would be a possible target if innocent, so if worse comes to worse then decaf would survive the night. However as I told Plexa, the only bad thing that could happen is the WORST CASE SCENARIO of both innocents dying. It happened. And the fake medic didn't protect Decaf. Who's the fake medic? L. Also Heros, I only accused you to see who would jump on the bandwagon and try to help get you lynched. I'll check the voting thread soon to see whats up. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:50 Ace wrote:The jack's ID was already revealed because of the channel incident, it didn't MATTER at that point. We were all sure Decaf was going to die if he was innocent. The whole point was to see if Decaf was Mafia or not. It all comes down to the fact that Decaf was not protected AT ALL last night. We only put ONE medic on him - you. There were no bumbling mistakes. I took a gamble that you already knew his ID, which you all surely did. Good try L. Too bad you got caught in the end. Posted in night7/main_page.235 Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:32 Ace wrote: When Lenwe died he got twice. The first time he got saved and got a PM about, the second time he died. So how is now different from then? If decaf was hit once, you would have saved him. If decaf was hit twice or more, he would have still got a PM saying he was saved and then died anyway. Neither of those happened. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:46 Ace wrote:Either way L, even without Decaf's testimony you're confirmed mafia. I'm asking everyone to vote and Lynch L. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:47 Ace wrote: I didn't know that until Chuiu just posted it. Even ignoring that info L is STILL confirmed Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:48 Ace wrote:making what up? Point to the info I made up. And if you truly are a medic, then how about you publicly post who you protected what night and how it turned out. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:51 Ace wrote:we didn't cheat knowingly. In all the games I've played targets can still tell whether or not they've been hit after death because w/o the town has to go through extra complicated ways of finding out if someone was protected or not. Combined with a Mafia kill list where inactivity doesn't hurt them the town can't really do shit. I didn't even realize it till Chuiu just posted it, but it makes no difference. Ignoring that info look at the clues that point to L. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:59 Ace wrote:And just to give you a quick example: Medic A protects Bob. Bob dies that night. If bob disappears and Medic A said " I protected Bob" then this is the scaenario: Medic A is lying and Bob wasn't protected. Medic A isn't lying and Bob was hit at least Twice. How do you know for sure? By asking Bob. If Bob can't tell you anything, which he should be able to since he SURVIVED the first hit then how does the town resolve the situation? Ask DTs to check the Medics? That's a disadvantage for the town because this scenario would happen almost every night, making the DTs practically Medic baby sitters. Ask the medic? yea, sure. Especially if the medic can lie. Reconstruct the Mafia Kill list? It's your best bet, but if the Mafia have a constant kill list all you know is that the MAX # of kills could add up to a certain # and know nothing about whether or not that # was used. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:15 Ace wrote:The difference between Ghar and MG was that people only had clues linking to them. You on the other hand have clues + a precarious situation linking to you: you are the only medic who has never saved someone from death. Individually, every medic that's currently alive has saved someone. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:38 Ace wrote:That was the basis of the Decaf-KH1031 situation, L. But we put you on Decaf so that just in case both turned out innocent and Decaf died we'd still have some important info. Everyone else protected their targets last night, you're the only one who did not. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:50 Ace wrote:Do I even need to? The only possible way you could be blue is if everyone else is lying. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:52 Ace wrote:and more over whats with the vague reference to more_minerals? If you think he's suspect the least you would do is actually make some sense of your accusations, right? Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:21 Ace wrote:Medics A and B protected X night 1. X survived and said he got 2 PMs stating he was hit (I didn't know about B at the time who turned out to be wurm). So Medics A and B are both cleared. No one else claimed to have protected X except these 2. Unless a medic is inactive Medic A would be mafia. I highly doubt it. Medic C was KH1031, who we thought was possibly innocent but because of the decaf situation we had to take a chance. That's 3 out of 7 medics already confirmed. LucasWoj is Medic D. 4 out of 7 confirmed. Medic E's targets all survived and reported to me about it - Lenwe's Medic. 5 out of 7 Medic F also protected someone who survived a hit - Y . 6 out of 7 confirmed. Medic G saved someone last night. 7 out of 7 confirmed. So where do YOU fit in? Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:37 Ace wrote:That's ok, they don't need to post. If they post what good will that do? Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:02 Ace wrote:I'm about to be out of here for a sec but let's play a game. L let's say we find a better candidate to lynch today and let you off the hook. I'll publicly say that tonight we are only putting YOU on a target, a target like...Plexa. If Plexa dies or you don't die we'd know your Mafia for sure and then lynch you tomorrow. Deal? Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 17:12 Ace wrote:I think it's better to kill L asap, and double lynch our other targets tomorrow. @qrs: there's so much I have to take care of behind the scenes you've got no idea why things keep going wrong. I've literally had over 100 PMs about all kinds of stuff this game and it's not easy trying to decipher the liars from the innocent. Either way everything I've done so far has brought the town closer to victory. What exactly have you done besides criticize from day 1? If enough people change their votes to crazie-penguin then let's lynch him, but before that can we find even stronger clues to him, or at least another suspect if we are going to leave L alive? Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 17:21 Ace wrote:Also if the top suspects + confirmed Mafia are right: Mandalor Queasy d.arkive blindalbino EvilMonkey L crazie-penguin Dr.Dragoon 8/20 If we catch the others on the Mandalor List, assuming L is Mafia we'd have another 9. Giving us 17/20 Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 02:41 Ace wrote:Ninja4ever has been suspected by multiple people since like Day 1. I think the recent analysis just builds upon an overwhelming case against him. Dr.Dragoon who seemed to be very active last game is really quiet this time. DamageControl is a stretch but I like that analysis. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 17:44 Ace wrote:It's time to start lynching those guys with low posts and on the mandalor list. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 02:44 Ace wrote:hahaha Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 02:59 Ace wrote:As a note, I'll be out of state the next 2 or possibly 3 days. I'll try to post more and declare a double lynch for Day 7 when I get the chance. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 11:11 Ace wrote:I'll be away so follow the Mandalor list. I'll try and post asap when I hit Penn State. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 11:16 Ace wrote:Oh yeah - the town is in Plexa's hands Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 12:12 Ace wrote:I just got back into NYC. Good job guys, gonna get back into the mode of things soon... Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 06:10 Ace wrote:that whole rebar thing from another day's post is points to SoleSteeler way too much. Even though he gave a decent defense I thibk he's still a second tier suspect. Ninja4ever, L, and ulszz (who was first claimed to be Joe) are all top 3 suspects at the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 08:04 Ace wrote: hey don't worry, you're only 3rd in the lynch list Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 15:26 Ace wrote: Then if/when I die who will we nominate as deputy mayor? Shallowbay? Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 19:20 Ace wrote:I declare a double lynch ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 02:59 Ace wrote:Is Eddie the Mafia member that we think is the roleblocker? Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 04:37 Ace wrote:but if we hit 2 mafia with today's lynching we knock them down to a KP of 6 With 4 medics and all our vets alive that's a really good position to be in. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 19:45 Ace wrote:Ninja4ever should get lynched next Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:24 Ace wrote: Actually you've been against almost everything I've done from Day 1. Whether you are mafia or not it IS alarming. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:02 Ace wrote:I vote Ghar (for now) Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 15:30 Ace wrote:I have no idea where Ghar is, but it seems not many people are voting for him even though he also had a good plan. With that in mind, and the fact I really would rather have randombum over Empyrean as Mayor or Pardoner, I'm changing my vote from Ghar to randombum in hopes enough votes swing over to oust Empyrean out. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:22 Ace wrote:I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:30 Ace wrote:explanation is in the post on page 111 Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 01:28 Ace wrote:I vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:00 Ace wrote:Ok first point of business. Even though there is a Double Lynch in effect, still only vote according to the strategy unless otherwise stated. Firstly, suspect #1 = wurm The only people that should be voting for wurm no matter what are these players: Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever Naib Hittegods SoleSteeler NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR WURM! Likewise, suspect #2 = Ghar The only people voting for Ghar no matter what should be these people: Romance_us Plexa Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress NO ONE ELSE VOTE FOR Ghar! Now that you guys know that, this is the rest of the plan. These players should vote like this: randombum - 2 useLess aZnvaLiaNce Ace -4 Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey Thats it. However, we know only 1 of those 6 are Mafia. Any innocent townie that wants to prove their innocence can vote on either myself or randombum BUT watch the vote count to make sure you don't accidentally lynch one of us. If you don't even want to risk it vote on ANYONE else except those 4 names, or just abstain. Please do this asap because we dont have much time. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 01:28 Ace wrote:All my votes go to qrs Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 01:29 Ace wrote:Second vote abstain for now Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 04:29 Ace wrote:second vote Seifu Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:51 Ace wrote:vote changes. 1st vote: EvilMonkey 2nd vote: Seifu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 04:29 Ace wrote:I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:46 Ace wrote:[-b-]I change my vote for crazie-penguin | ||
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79. AcrossFiveJulys Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:27 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Awesome, can't wait. I think Dr.Dragoon should be lynched again in the first round jk =P Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:54 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:I really do not want Empryean as mayor. Not only is he suspicious and arrogant (do we want another repeat of the fakesteve fiasco?), but this post should be paid attention to: Even if Empryean is a legit detective, this ruins that power. Another thing I'd like to add is that if we get a detective killed to verify Empryean's legitimacy and in addition Empryean is targeted by the saboteur, we are left with a mere 2 detectives, best case scenario. The other scenario is that Empryean is mafia, which we will find out by sacrificing a detective, which means we will have three detectives left and no mayor. Both of these situations sound very bad for the townies to me. Everybody who voted for Empryean, please consider what I just wrote. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:56 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:And by "Empryean is targeted by the saboteur" I mean his detective abilties are made useless every cycle Posted in night7/main_page.057 Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:15 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: You must suck at starcraft and every other competitive game out there. The best players always find cheap exploits to gain a slight advantage over their opponents. Mafia is no exception, especially since this is a competitive forum for one of the most competitive games ever. If you wanted to lose, you shouldn't have joined in this game. Unless, that is, you are mafia. Not neccessarily accusing you, you might just be really, really stupid. Same goes for HeroeS)Pink (should we be paying attention to the mr. pink clue or is that too obvious? Damn you for picking a clue like that chuiu). Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:09 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Stop making bad suggestions. Lynching a townie is bad because it both wastes a lynch that we could otherwise use to kill a mafia and it means one less townie the mafia has to worry about. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:52 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:I'm beginning to think that next game we might think about PM's not being allowed except for mafia, because as a vanilla townie im not even involved in this game at all anymore and have no way of finding out what's going on. It makes sense to go for the winning strategy, so let's just tweak the rules so that this kind of situation can't happen (half the people in this game are plain townies for gods sake...) Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 05:18 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:I vote for araav for mayor Seems active, smart, and experienced, and I do not trust Ghar Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 12:00 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Everybody who voted for Empryean, please read my post here I believe it would be a disaster if Empryean were elected mayor. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:28 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:I also change my vote from arrav to Ace to make sure that ace wins at this point + Show Spoiler [Alethios] + 21. Alethios Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 15:16 Alethios wrote:300 years later... Eager to avenge their ancestor's death, in a small town 300 years ago... at the hands of the insane mayor FakeSteve... a small band of marine's ventured forth... But they were butchered and eaten by a bunch of Jaedong's lings, feeding the swarm. Thus, the descendants of Alethios were unable to participate in that which they were traveling towards... The Team Liquid Mafia 2 [Signups]. Bummer. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:01 Alethios wrote:Unconfirmable rollcalling this early in the game is simply stupid. Stupid. Even if he's telling the truth, he's exposed himself to the mafia. Either he's lying or he's being idiotic for personal gain. Neither of which are qualities we want in a mayor. EDIT: Ace above me pretty much sums it up. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:36 Alethios wrote: I resent that. It's a good idea however, if the candidate has somebody in mind already. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:45 Alethios wrote: Could you enlighten us on this? Your method of selection. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 19:22 Alethios wrote: No hard feelings. With the USA being the immensely powerful nation that it is, American's aren't the only people to follow it's politics. Simply because you don't follow Australian, Afghan or New Zealand politics doesn't mean we don't. I would advise against having Empyrean in public service. The reasons have been stated by others. His rolecalling was either a tactical blunder or a tactic to illicitly gain out trust. That being said, since i'm currently voting for Ace, thus am partly to blame for Empyrean's position of second place. Très suspicious ne? Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:40 Alethios wrote:1 . Just a heads up... Comments like: "I wish I was mafia again", "If only I was mafia" "I hate being a towny" et.c. Hopefully you aren't convincing anybody. Such statements are basically void, and should be ignored by all. 2. Tough luck on the lynch result, but chances were that we weren't going to get anybody. While i'm sure most realise this, the fact that Inc was a blue... tells us nothing at all about Ace, nobody knew about any blue player other than themselves. 3. I would encourage people to use their votes liberally, and to change them as often as they see fit. Vote counts provoke discussion, and generally a defense from the bloke on death row. This defense can then be analysed for inconsistencies and so forth. Don't withhold your votes, don't 'save them' for later in the day, like discussion, voting is good for the town. 4. Do we have any news yet on the bodyguard plan? May well have missed a post about it. With even more people than last time... the time difference means when I come home, there is another 30 pages new from last night, so I'll probably miss the odd post here and there. If Ace could simply let us know when stage 1 has been completed, that would be dandy. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 18:40 Alethios wrote:It occurred to me that the Mad Hatter role would be more of a liability than an asset. Never mind. Love all the Tentin Qurantino references, not sure how far they'll get us early on in this game. My prediction is that later in the game however, they'll come in handy. ----- Just to remind everybody to do two things: 1. Send in your role to Ace (who by now is almost certainly innocent). 2. Vote vote! The day is still young and there is plenty of time to accuse and acquit multiple people :D 3. Talk, talk. Seriously, being silent is really really bad for the town, and is thus, bad for you. Just look at last games cult of death list if you need more evidence. So many of them were inactive and never noticed by the masses. It was one of the main reasons the town lost the last game. Get talking, but keep it on topic and thoughtful. "lol inc died" is not helping anything. Theorycraft on Diablo's minions and the events thus far is on the horizon. EDIT: Added link to the voting page. Click it. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:22 Alethios wrote: What do you mean "the kiwi? Bastard! All seriousness aside, Ace's plan, thus far unrevealed, is curious. We can be fairly certain he is town, yes... but withdrawing our votes could have unforeseen consequences. Daytime has a habit of running out on us (read: me) in inopportune times. If the town (for townies are most likely to heed Ace's advice) withdraws it's votes, and the day runs out before Ace's plan comes to fruition... It could leave us in the situation where the Assassin's Guild could easily kill a townie (wasting our lynch, and killing one of us), without any serious effort on their part. That is to say, we won't be given a list of which 9 out of 11 people (or whatever it was... I was pushing up daisies at the time) are mafia. I've complied with Ace's request, and hope that the sun's course across the sky is slowed by Māui's jaw bone. Kia Kaha. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:10 Alethios wrote:One thing that hasn't been brought up yet... Plexa searched wikipedia for "Ghar" and brought back a bunch of answers.... However, my take on the name is this: As an old school WoW player (don't socially ostracize me, I gave up years ago).... "Ghar" to me is the one of Ragnaros' lieutenants. Ragnaros was the BigBad in the early versions of WoW, before patches brought in Newer and Harder raid instances. Ghar was a big black and red rock elemental. He had 8 minions, which were smaller versions of himself. As you rushed in, and he agro'd, he would cast a spell. The spell was to remove all buffs from everybody in the raid. Ghar: -Baddie -Links to colours -Henchman of Ragnaros/Godfather -Ability could be indicative of Role Blocker status. ------ Voted Mandalor, as per request. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:15 Alethios wrote:Actually, "Ghar" as i took it is spelt "Garr", so my evidence is a long shot. My apologies. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:27 Alethios wrote:While this is still pre-flop, so to speak, we were given Mandalor on a platter. Of course his death will be a bit boring... 58 votes to kill Mandalor, next closest Ghar on 7. Tomorrow we don't have as much to go on, and while Ghar will probably snuff it between now and dusk tomorrow... beyond that it's very unclear what will happen. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:28 Alethios wrote:Suppose my post wasn't pre-flop after all.... Wooooooo! Go us / Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:56 Alethios wrote: I'm actually feeling something similar to this at the moment. I'm withholding judgment for a day or two though, because I think it will pick up big time. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:10 Alethios wrote:I've said it before, i'll say it again... the mad hatter role seems like such a liability. It's the whole "If I die, lynch x" thing, roled up into one action. Problem is, by killing the person when they are saying that (assuming x isn't mafia), they effectively kill two people instead of one. Flawed role. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:35 Alethios wrote:Presumably, this is the post a whole lot of you bored folks have been waiting for. ---------- By now, Ace has enough information on us, and enough of us trust him to lead the opposing side to an easy victory. Assuming he's mafioso that is, it's unlikely but still plausible. Imagine this scenario, if you will. 1) Ace is a member of the Death Company. 2) Ace is roleblocked by fellow cult member. 3) His word leads Town to an early lead. 4) No detectives speak out about him.... causing the town to trust Ace absolutely. 5) Ace sets up two blue townies, and we all follow him like lemmings. 6) The dead's allegiances are revealed, and all Ace has to do is say "huh" Now i'll explain why this is possible. 1) Obvious, he was given the role. 2) A clever ruse, to help Ace gain our trust. Here is what chuiu has to say about Saboteurs: "he may disable one players [sic] abilities" It doesn't say that this person may not be a fellow Satan Worshiper. 3) Again, a clever ruse. 4) Look again at the detective's ability. The detective has 3 powers, one of which would be useless in determining Ace's colour. The other two are: -You have the ability to ask me whether or not a specific clue points to a specific person and get a yes/no answer. -You have the ability to, twice a game, ask me what role a specific person has. If a detective used the first ability, chances are he's going to get back a "no". If he uses the second, chances are that he's going to get "no special role" returned. In both cases, the detective will not speak up. Leading us, and the detectives, to believe Ace walks in the light. 5) Judging from the reaction to wurm's denouncement, Ace has deduced correctly that he is able to kill off two important townies tomorrow afternoon, simply by having the majority follow him like sheep. 6) If two townies are hung, or two blues... Ace is still in the clear. All he needs to do is sight wurm's behavior and the action will be justified. From this point on, all that he needs to do is implore people to vote for X, and X will be hung. By the time we figure out what is going on, it will be too late. So, there you have it... Ace COULD be a Viper, playing the role of his life. It's unlikely, but I implore everybody to consider the fundamental theorem of this game: Only trust yourself, the dead, and confirmed teammates (Diablo's fellow minions, Bodyguards if Mayor). Keep in mind that Ace is a very intelligent person. Isn't it possible that Ace thought through this logic before me and discovered a sure fire way for the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad to win the game. Wouldn't it be damned fun to play the way Ace is now? ----------------- That being said, I by and large trust Ace and I have a large dose of respect for many of his ideas... but what has prompted me to speak up is this plan of his for tomorrow's vote. IT'S RETARDED. You're splitting up two different lists, in the hope that the demon's will present themselves in a more obvious light. This in itself has nothing wrong with it, but (assuming your town) haven't considered the ramifications. 1) More than likely, more than a few people will not vote... and claim they were away. Leading to the whole system being a farce. But it gets worse... 2) Chances are, you aren't going to catch anybody. You'll have a list of people in which some are Undead... but you could do just as well by taking a random sample. Good work. 3) You're wasting an entire day/night cycle of detective power. 4) You're setting up a situation where YOU decide who the two suspects are to be. This is a problem not only because there is still a chance you might be mafia... but you exclude the town from making up their own minds. Bad for entertainment value, and also the key precepts upon which the town should always vote. Making up your own mind about who to vote for and not jumping upon bandwagons. 5) Deserter's such as myself are required to be punished, otherwise the whole idea falls down. But what about if they have actual reasons for not doing as you wish? What if they see your idea as being flawed, or do not trust you? I shall not vote as you prescribe Ace. It's stupid and almost counterproductive assuming you are town, and truly terrible if you are satanic. I encourage you all to start thinking for yourselves once more. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:53 Alethios wrote:A chink in your armor there Ace? Thats the best you can come up with? I make no sense? I don't mean to suggest that you are part of the multi-international corporation, simply that you could be. However, I DO mean to suggest that your plan for tomorrow's voting is stupid, because it is. If there were higher numbers of mafia in each list... I might condone it. As it stands however, if you took a random sample... your data would probably lie within 1 std deviation of what you've got. Not enough to act upon. Give up, try another tack. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:18 Alethios wrote: Please tell me you aren't talking about Ace... If so, please go and read what I actually had to say. ----- Put simply... 1/7 Guilty in the first lot (this is your better sample) is still only 14.3% mafia. Compare this to the total murderers in the game, over the total players. 22/130 = 16.9% mafia Then you have your 10/58 Guilty in the second lot.... Which is slightly more at 10/58 = 17.2% but still not far from the mean. Furthermore, much more effort is required to separate out these mafia than in the first lot. Seriously... I don't buy your "math isn't adding up" for a second. I realise that (assuming you ARE town) you have to maintain the trust of the town, but persisting with this stupid scheme isn't helping in the slightest. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:25 Alethios wrote: Ah good point. Rather misleading first post. I conceed this however. The total percentage of Mafia is infact 15.4% Doesn't change a thing however. Your lists have about the error you'd expect to find in a random sample. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:28 Alethios wrote: Oh please.... don't even try to pull that one on me. Please don't forget your the one who's name was being bandied about in connection the clues not long ago... I had hoped you were talking about me, interesting you picked up that I am female... Instead of saying "so says the mafioso" why don't you try to actually pick apart my argument. Might be a bit more productive. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:38 Alethios wrote: Going on prior evidence, the Mafia are more likely, statistically to be the ones lurking. So i'm not sure what evidence you have to say it's better than choosing the group that didn't vote/abstain... Furthermore, I'm not required to provide an alternate plan in order to point out that the current one is stupid, but I shall anyway. 1) Vote how you see fit, acting upon Ace's evidence against somebody if you wish. This has worked well in the past, and will again. 2) Detectives use their powers to find out useful information. One such use would be to check the new (fresh) lists for mafia and cross-referencing the two lists. This will almost certainly result in far better results. 3) Don't let yourself become removed from the loop. Yes, I think we should trust Ace for now... but don't allow yourself to become a bystander, as it puts too much trust in Ace. Satisfied? Bet you thought I wouldn't come up with one. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:44 Alethios wrote: 1) Lets say we do the split. (putting aside all the concerns about where that might leave us) Lets look at the numbers. Chances are, the Death Cult members will be split reasonably evenly amongst the groups, resulting in similar percentages to what we have now. Nothing can be done with this information, but to repeat the process. Resulting in multiple Kangaroo courts each time hoping that we get lucky and a Mafia member is singled out. 2) He sets up the suspects, uses the double lynch and forces us to vote the way he wants us to. Can you not see how much power this will give him? Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:49 Alethios wrote:Whats more, why bother posting rough numbers? You ARE on a computer you know. You COULD calculate these things properly easily. By saying that the 1/7 group is the worse list really shows how little thought you've put into this. Just because there is a slightly higher percentage of Assassins in the larger list, doesn't mean it's somehow easier to get at them. They are hidden amongst the masses, requiring a huge amount of effort to get at. At least with the 1/7 group, a single repeater will put the Assassin in a new list with, at worst, a 25% Assassin percentage. Can't you see i'm talking sense Ace? Please drop this plan. Cross referencing lists will be far more effective at singling out Undead. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:56 Alethios wrote: Well done for once again, missing my point entirely. Also good job on skimming over the bits of my original post you didn't care to argue with. Yes criminals had to vote against Mandolar. He was dead anyway, and the mafia would not have swayed the vote in any case. ---------- I realise Ace is highly trustworthy. I realise most of the town will follow him whatever he decides to do. What does that matter though? Highly trustworthy does not mean he is incapable of making mistakes. Highly trustworthy does not mean is can't be a demon in disguise. Highly trustworthy DOES NOT mean that townies should defer ALL power to him, as we are in danger of doing currently. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:01 Alethios wrote: On that point: Ace is not suggesting we Cross Reference. His plan involves splitting the list and re-checking numbers. Cross referencing is taking a new sample, and a new number... and seeing how many people are on both lists, how many people suddenly dropped out from voting. How many people aren't on either list and so forth. Working with abstained voters: Chuiu, can detectives check abstain lists? We can ask why they abstained, check the number of times they abstain, look for patterns of inactivity or unwillingness to vote... Suggesting that abstaining voters aren't able to be examined is highly flawed. (Remember inactive non-voters are kicked). Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:10 Alethios wrote: Find me where I confused you with Ace. If I said Ace, I was talking to Ace (It is his plan after all, not yours). Extra time? Negative. What takes extra time is forcing votes for 4 turns to find 1 mafia (and you tell me this is the best group?). 4 turns, each time increasing the number of detectives you need... Thats 6 lots of DT power you are suggesting just for the smaller group (which I said right from the beginning was the best). Don't even get me started on the time and resources required to produce results from the group of 58... FIFTY EIGHT PEOPLE. You're looking at weeks of game time, and many many DT powers used when they could be doing something more useful. Again, missing all the points you didn't like to counter. My argument was never meant to be taken on a point by point basis. Even when it is however, it still stands up to your current ideas. You haven't even touched for a second on the inherent problems with forced voting (for a huge number of turns your suggesting), even leaving aside that you cut out any entertainment that those townies might have had. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:18 Alethios wrote: I see i'm going to have to stick with this. Nice job continuing to argue against my argument without reading the majority of it. I'm especially annoyed you argue against my point that Ace could be a Minion of Baal without realising that i've already addressed that point. Likewise with my point about deferring power. I've addressed this, by voting the way Ace wants us to we defer ALL the power (as townies) that we have (to vote). If we don't obey, the system breaks down, if somebody goes inactive for a day, the system breaks down. Following Ace's current plan is giving absolute power to him for indefinite amount of time. I'm not suggesting voting for the person Ace puts forward (like last time). Again, read what I said so I don't have to keep reposting it. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:26 Alethios wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2008 17:19 Alventenie wrote: From this post: At the bottom, "Can't you see i'm talking sense Ace?" Ace hasn't responded to you since last page, you have been talking with me the entire page. I kindly direct you to where I said: I said Ace, it's his plan i'm trying to change, not yours. Thus, Ace: Change your plan. + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2008 17:19 Alventenie wrote: Also from your first post: As far as my posts, they were directed at mostly this. All your point from my point of view is about tomorrows votes, not future votes past tomorrow. Therefore, all these extra resources that you say I am saying we should do (I put them out there as something that could happen, because as it is now, that is what Ace's plan is, I don't know if he will continue to use that as his plan or not). Therefore a majority of your counter points (or first points according to you) are from what I am saying about days past tomorrow. Don't think like that, I am posting because you say this plan is retarded for tomorrow's votes, not day 4, or 5, or 6, but day 3. So until you get over the fact that I am talking about tomorrow, I am going to ask you to stop having negativity towards me about future days. Ace could have a different plan for then, I don't know, all I know is what the plan is tomorrow. Can't you see that Ace's plan requires a sustained commitment? If the chase is given up tomorrow, we've achieved nothing... at great cost. Thus, I think it was fair to pitch my later arguments at a sustained enforced voting plan. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:34 Alethios wrote: I've suggested right from the beginning that if Ace gives us another Mandalor, we should go for it. What i've been arguing against is the enforced voting, where we vote for X or Y or else. The list of 7 people I think is wrong, but go ahead if you wish. It'll still take a number of turns (and detectives) in any case, resources that might be put to better use. I'll warn you now though, your seemingly sturdy plans will fall down as soon as people start missing votes, or dissenting. Where is the fabled Ace of old? Is this the best you can come up with? Not even an attempt to counter my logic? For shame. EDIT: Screwed up my quotes, leaving this unedited long enough for Ace to have a good look though. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:56 Alethios wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2008 17:45 Ace wrote: The entire point of the enforced voting to those who can see it is not only to find a Mafia but to find out which townies are 100% innocent. This way after tomorrows votes I possibly won't ever even have to do enforced voting. I'll have enough information on 11 possible mafia targets in no time just by the very fact that I'll know who's innocent + the innocents I know now. It will take 1 turn, and thats only if one of them dont die. The list will be split 4/3. 1 Mafia among them. I already know some of those guy's roles. Once I find out which side the Mafia is on it's going to be at worst 1/4 or 25% chance of finding him without applying prior knowledge. The other half of that list is automatically innocent. How are you figuring it will take us more than 1 turn? 1 detective - 1 turn. Thats it. If people miss votes when they've had WAY more than enough time so be it. It's the burden on the Mafia. If they leave the group and no other townies does then we have our suspect. If he leaves and only 1 or 2 townies do also, BAM we still have our suspect. Where is the failure part of this plan? If all 7 of them vote differently even though some of those people already PM'd me saying they would vote the same to prove their innocence? You're arguments isn't adding up because any innocent townie that would do what's best for the town would see how this works out. Counter what logic? Anyone playing this game that read the plan knows I'm innocent right now. It's impossible for me to be Mafia. Just because you cooked up some fabled scenario for some reason to confuse the town doesn't mean the rest of us are going to buy it. That post was the silliest set of logic leaps I've seen and it clearly shows you are up to something. *sigh*..... Seriously.... You could have just brushed this all off but instead you go and pull this. Defending the actions i've already conceeded... Denying there is any possibility you are Mafia. Not addressing any other points. Dude wtf? As i've said, I don't believe you are mafia... but you COULD be. ->All it takes is for you to be a regular cultist. Detectives look at you, return nothing and thus don't speak out. ->The general town hears no outcry from anybody, and thus we go about "knowing" you are innocent. ->You kill off a teammate and the trust the town has for you is complete. Again, I trust you. But I stick by my position. The person saying "Whoa, hold back just a bit ok?" This doesn't affect your ability to kill mafia, so I don't know why you are bitching about it. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:59 Alethios wrote: Minion of Death, Shallow[bay]'s position in Game 1. Allow me to continue to have this bit of fun with synonyms. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:09 Alethios wrote: You haven't spoken against the DT flaw. You haven't spoken about why the 58 person split will work. You haven't spoken about why you will not concede a small fail safe (even though it won't hurt you per-se) You haven't told us why Cross Referencing, at least on the 58 person vote, will not work. Why do you continue with this shrugging off? You only destabilise your position ever so slightly. Since your town (right), why don't you correct this? Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:23 Alethios wrote: Urgh. Again. I assume you are talking about this DT-non-flaw? ->You have the ability to ask me whether or not a specific clue points to a specific person and get a yes/no answer. ->You have the ability to, twice a game, ask me what role a specific person has. Suppose you are regular mafia. What will a DT get when he asks chuiu what role you have? "Ace has no special role" ----- Right, so after tomorrows vote you get: 4/20 Mafia in one list (With 10 people changing or abstaining) 5/29 Mafia in the other list. What new information do you get from that? NONE. ---- You aren't considering doing a separate independent vote, counting for mafia, then comparing lists... why? ---- I don't see why you think you can bring in talk about wurm and how YOU are the one playing mind games this time! Expecting me to go "oh yes, you are very clever aren't you" Not relevant, sorry. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:32 Alethios wrote: See this is just me, but unless somebody asks Chuiu a question... I haven't seen him answer any. If we get an answer from Chuiu about this, saying that the question would yield "plain mafia", I will of course withdraw any and all comments regarding Ace's allegiance. That being said, I'm still convinced there are more efficient methods for tomorrows vote. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:47 Alethios wrote:Assuming that we are still theoretically unsure about your allegiance, the most logical course for the town to take would be to vote as normal. Opening up the ability to cross reference while not giving you absolute power. Assuming we DO know you are town, then your course of action... as you say... is likely the best. We can assume you have much more information than us and thus probably know what you are doing when manipulating the vote. No doubt, we'll have received an answer before tomorrow... so it won't make much difference. Assuming the question goes your way, I'm glad to see you stand up under close scrutiny. If not, you've dug yourself a deep enough hole now that I am satisfied either way. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:53 Alethios wrote: I said right from the outset that I trusted Ace. Just spotted a potential flaw that hadn't been addressed yet. Enjoyed the argument too :D Things are looking really up for the town at the moment, and what is the pillar of that? Ace. Thought I'd better make sure he was working for the side we all think he is. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 19:28 Alethios wrote:Right well, I suppose I'd better make some statement. I felt compelled to test Ace, as this was something nobody seemed interested in doing. It was highly unlikely he was Mafia, but you can't tell me a test wasn't at least constructive. Likely to, no matter the outcome, strengthen the town. I realised from the beginning that the "flaw" almost certainly didn't exist, but thought it would be a good way to test Ace, and to perfect his plan. If any doubt was remaining in anybody's mind regarding Ace's allegiance, it should now be dispelled. He reacted calmly, even as my attacks got more and more "Red Flag Waving", trying to entice some mistake from him. Secondly, I wasn't convinced Ace's plan of action was the best. I'm sure others felt the same. Attacking a plan in a debate is not a bad thing. The process, in general, strengthens the plan. Either because the plan takes on new, more efficient aspects, or simply because more people are willing to follow it. I'm disappointed by the reaction to the debate last night. Showtime! waited until after i'd left to hurl insults at me, obviously not willing to take me on directly. "Do you think I'm stupid?" Yes, either that or your a very good actor. Plexa accuses me of arguing by simply claiming the moral high ground and not advancing points. I ask you Plexa, given Alventenie was arguing points i'd already covered, can you really blame me? What is wrong with examining the plans that will obviously work? Are you saying that you knew right from when he suggested it that it couldn't possibly be any better? A shame i'm a fellow Kiwi? I don't really know what to say to that. "Likewise" perhaps? Kau, it wasn't junk. It was a debate which, I feel, progressed the town forward. Perhaps if you actually had something thoughtful or constructive to put forward, you could have saved us a line of junk. A Kiwi is slang for a New Zealander. Again with the same statement, copyed and pasted from the last guy. Urgh. Same point as before, but this time my entire theory is false. Perhaps you could point me to the post where Chuiu called upon his skills as an Engineering Science Professor and hauled out the various statistics required to prove my testing plan was inferior. Does it even matter if it was? Each idea needs to be tested against another in order to refine it. ------------ Sorry about the length. Interesting day ahead of us. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:53 Alethios wrote: From what you've told us, they could both be Evil Bastards. Lying about being hit isn't too hard, can imagine it would be a pretty clever ploy from both of them to gain our trust. Or am I missing something? Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:41 Alethios wrote: Laying it on a bit thick don't you think? You know, I wasn't even inferring anything about your character when you said that. My apologies if you were offended by the term I used, trying to keep coming up with new euphemisms for shits and giggles. I was saying it's POSSIBLE that both LucasWoj and yourself are both Mafia, and it is. You know it, I know it, Ace knows it. So keep your personal attacks to yourself, and try to come up with something constructive for once. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 14:54 Alethios wrote:It's been that kind of day Thanks Tuna. Sorry showtime. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 21:13 Alethios wrote:Obviously last night's conversation didn't faze you wurm. Ace is not a suspect. He's not infallible, but it's a virtual certainty he's working for us. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 19:35 Alethios wrote: You probably know this, but "Snake Charmer" was the Codename for Bill (the leader) of the Deadly Vipers Assassination Squad. Anytime. The people, such as myself, who voted but "shouldn't have" are actually doing the town a favour. If the mafia count on those two lists combined don't increase, the extra people are all townies. Waiting on Ace to post the counts. I hope we are still getting them. --------- Ace seems to think he can win without our help. The vigilantes will be busy won't they? Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 12:53 Alethios wrote:It's come to my attention that this thread must be closed, and a majority of the town's inhabitants banned. I quote, from the Ten Commandments: "And please don't try to be Freud or Jung. Don't second-guess the motives for why someone wrote something... ...Avoid responding with comments filled with half-baked psychoanalytical presumptions about the poster's imputed agenda or their psych profile... ...Stop psychoanalyzing - you don't have a license to practice. " I rest my case ------------------ Nice find GranDim! A hentai series you say? Hmmm... I won't ask... Looking at the full picture, the girl looks less like a wolf than in the small cut from the profile. It could still be a valid clue, because it's unlikely Chuiu knew of the larger picture. The strength of the clue is of course diminished however. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 13:33 Alethios wrote:Ace, I'm wondering if you have any further information for us. I realise there have been many DT deaths recently, but we've only gotten mafia counts on 2 vote lists. Will we be receiving this information today? Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 09:16 Alethios wrote:Well i'm back, it's been pretty hellish here recently. Yeah, Ace and randombum have no need to fear for their lives. Another 2 Bodyguards left. We can be fairly certain that mafia will not target them on the same night the last bodyguard is killed either... risking wasting a kill. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:41 Alethios wrote:This is kind of scary... Mayor is elected. (4 double lynches remaining, voting power of 6) Pardoner is elected. (6 pardons remaining) 2 of 6 Bodyguards alive. 3 of 4 Vigilante alive. 0 of 4 Detective alive. 7 of 7 Veteran alive. 4 of 7 Paramedic alive. 0 of 2 Mad Hatter alive. 0 of 2 Jack alive. 6 out of 6 of the most important roles are dead. The Jacks and the Detectives have been pulverized, slaughtered, murdered, killerized, shot, deathed, made dead and are now pushing up daisys six feet under with no respawn point in sight. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:02 Alethios wrote: I'm sure you could infer that from some of the clues. For instance: "sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder" Clearly he was pretty blazed... either that or he'd been drinking tequila (don't drink that shit... the hangover is still going strong). Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:53 Alethios wrote:So... the car numberplate theory worked out. Good job Amber[LighT]! Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 14:10 Alethios wrote: Sorry to say this dude... but thats not what i'd call a good defense. "Trust me" says absolutely nothing. Anybody under suspicion, town or mafia, would want players to trust them. Likewise the SoleSteeler/SoulStealer connection. You can't deny that the two are homonyms... enough for Chuiu to build a clue around your name being "Soul Stealer" Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 20:16 Alethios wrote: I have to disagree with you on this point. Many have tried to "convincingly point the finger" at somebody else, but since they're under suspicion their finger pointing generally goes unnoticed. If SoleSteeler knows he's town, a defense analysing the premises behind his accusation is perfectly valid. Helps us not lynch the wrong person, Saving that precious lynch for somebody else while also not killing another soldier in the fight against the swarm. Thus, defending yourself IS helpful. Personally, pending further evidence, I believe SS has acquitted himself admirably on this count. He was accused based upon Day/Night clues... and he's shown that the connection between himself and Mr.Pink is tenuous at best. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 18:11 Alethios wrote: Thats a rather interesting thing to be telling everybody. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 18:49 Alethios wrote: I'm not generally one to analyse clues, preferring instead to leave that to others and focus upon people's actions and speach.... but when i read this, a giant light bulb lit up above my head. This paragraph really seems to bring to mind PurePwnage, in particular the two keyboard/micro fight scenes. First when Jeremy fights himself in the door-less room in Season 1 episode 4 "Pwn or Be Pwned" and second when he fights Vruckter (sp?) in the Netherlands during episode 11, season 1. Perhaps Copperhead is a gamer of some sort? I'll have to go watch the two scenes again, but his opponents wear ninja costumes, it's generally very dark and in both cases two characters spar using keyboards. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 08:33 Alethios wrote:Changing my quote from "There's somebody here... they stole your underpants" to "*thick german accent* Design design design... if you don't do design... you're TOAST!" for personal reasons *cries* Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:42 Alethios wrote:This hasn't been pointed out yet, but Randombum's role of pardoner only really has one purpose: To stop a lynching when it has been swayed by the mafia. To be honest, pardons will only become important towards the end of a game... when a full team of active mafia might be able to sway a vote away from one of them onto a townie (assuming many town are inactive). "33 of 85 possible votes [were] accounted for" in the last round of voting at the time 14 mafia were alive. Think about that... if all the mafia voted.. they'd make up near 50% of the vote count. It isn't hard to imagine all voting for one person (now that all detectives are dead), add a bit of bandwagoning in there... and... dead townie. Thus, it's going to be important later for randombum to use his pardons if it becomes obvious a person is innocent yet to be lynched. However, if randombum uses or had used his power before such a situation occured, he would instantly be a prime suspect of protecting mafia. Unfortionately, under Chuiu's current system of voting... a pardoner has very little time to react and use his pardon. A pardoner would need to be active... yet randombum isn't... which leads me on to my next point nicely. ------------ Does everybody remember the mayoral elections? Our two main candidates were Ace and Randombum. The two had similar ideas about how to lead the town to victory... with Ace winning out in the end because he came up with many of them. I'd like to draw your attention to a PM I received (and i'm assuming most... if not all of you also received). Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum Now there are two things to notice here... firstly randombum's first point. He states that he spends far too much time at home... and will always have time to tl.net. He's implying that he'll be very active throughout the game... Where is he now however? I can't remember the last time I saw a post from him... He didn't vote this day... He abstained yesterday (when a mafia was lynched)... Day 5 was curiously absent of a randombum vote. Day 4 was yet another abstention. Day 3 was the day of inforced voting, and randombum voted as required... So i'll stop here. Next... look at his 4th point. "so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread" So randombum doesn't want us to read what is said on the thread? Interesting. Picture i'm trying to paint here is of a person, whose status is unknown, who after an impassioned mayoral campaign (which he narrowly lost) has done exactly what he needs to do to escape notice. I wouldn't have noticed either, if it were not for the curious contrast between his mayoral promises and his observable behavior. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:50 Alethios wrote:Huh... big ass points posted since i started writing (yes it took me hours... i went out). Including a rare randombum post... now personally i'm inclined to trust him... but his post does align with my theory of doing exactly what he needs to do to escape notice. Make a post or two defending yourself if any suspicion is raised... then fall back into being anonymous. The fact you didn't receive many votes isn't really valid by the way... there were detectives in the game at the time... and this round's legion of the damned would not want to be caught out like they were in the previous game. ----------- Plexa... would you mind elaborating why you have 40% confidence of infundibulum's guilt when you couldn't find any clues relating to him? Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:58 Alethios wrote: Firstly... my apologies about the tournament, I had signed up and all... unfortunately something came up. How did you do? ------------- Granted, the mafia would prefer a non-detective with bodyguard protection with the position of pardoner... but they essentially only had one other option at that point anyway... randombum... furthermore... why wouldn't they want one of their own in that position? Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 18:00 Alethios wrote: I was hoping you could specifically say how it relates. --------- Perhaps PMs would be the best place for our off topic discussion. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 18:05 Alethios wrote: To quote you: "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat Apologies for the triple post... but even if the motorized were sharp (which I find rather suspect... have you seen the hats in question) why would Californian Mountainsnake need to "[take] out his own weapon of choice" if it's upon his head? Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:15 Alethios wrote:I vote Randombum (for now) I still feel bad about screwing up that game Taking bets for who will be the first to die. Alethios 1:1 odds All others 258:1 odds Bummer. EDIT: Updating Odds. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 10:56 Alethios wrote:Fakesteve had a plan too... surprisingly. Why do you people trust others already? Hardly anything has been said so far. (not saying you should vote differently, but to take everything everybody else says with a grain of salt yah?) Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:53 Alethios wrote:I unvote randombum and vote Ace. So trustworthy. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 18:42 Alethios wrote:I vote for suresh0t Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 17:08 Alethios wrote:I withdraw my vote from suresh0t Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:11 Alethios wrote:I Vote Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 19:29 Alethios wrote:I vote Ghar Yargh! Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 15:13 Alethios wrote:I vote for Wurm with my second vote. My first vote remains with Ghar. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 12:43 Alethios wrote:I vote for d.arkive Plexa is a good debater, trust me. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 09:21 Alethios wrote:I withdraw my vote for d.arkive -------- I vote for useLess Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 11:59 Alethios wrote:I vote suresh0t with my first vote. I vote fusionsdf with my second vote. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 18:18 Alethios wrote:I vote for L I still vote for L. + Show Spoiler [Alventenie] + 24. Alventenie Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:04 Alventenie wrote:I believe if you were active last game he automatically signed you up for this game. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 18:11 Alventenie wrote:Im going to laugh if Empyrean dies and is a detective if he isnt voted into office lol. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:17 Alventenie wrote:I don't agree with how you lynched your first candidate, just like last game with FS, he killed someone who voiced his opinion against him. Now you kill someone because he doesn't post, honestly that is a horrible decision, and a bad theory to do. Chuiu said, you HAVE to vote to be in the game. so if anyone didn't vote, then why are you targeting them? People that don't vote shouldn't be in the game. Honestly, if you want my opinion on how to lynch the first person, I would look at the clues first, find how people who have *voted* relate to clues vaguely (and i mean like in an easy sense, such as Mr. blue -> Oneblueaugust, Mr. pink -> that guy with )pink (sorry i cant remember your name)), and pick from that list of people. They have to have voted, and then i would look at their posts, small posts, or posts that sound illogical, or something not ordinary. You have to remember, townies have no reason to lie, and aren't trying to hide anything (except maybe vigilantes), where as mafia HAVE to lie to stay concealed and look like a townie. PS. I also thought that Chuiu mentioned how he was going to move special roles from inactive people to active people somewhere. If that is true, we just lost a mad hatter, and it would of been better to kill a townie for such a reason of keeping our special roles. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:04 Alventenie wrote:i think he means more than 4 detective has messaged him, or other people with roles are messaging him Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:13 Alventenie wrote:Honestly Naib, if a townie was lurking, they aren't adding anything. They should post, even if its just to say they like Ace's plan, agree with the questions being asked about it, mostly because it shows them posting. As said before in another post, Townies naturally will be telling the truth (or i hope so, they have nothing to hide), while Mafia will be trying to lie and appear to be telling the truth. Eventually the lies will catch up to them and they will be caught. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:48 Alventenie wrote:Guess he wasn't Incontrol of the game yet. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:52 Alventenie wrote:make a better one then! Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 19:29 Alventenie wrote: its like 6:30 am here, so im kind of just doing stuff for fun ^^, im about to sleep though, g'night Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 07:50 Alventenie wrote:There is no reason to be impatient or nervous on night 1. You have a 9/110 chance of dieing, and think of the odds that 7/110 could be watching one of those 9, to save them! Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 12:12 Alventenie wrote: you are confusing me shallow, stop posting these crazy antics! Can't wait for day btw =P Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:07 Alventenie wrote:Time to work on clues, lets see it out! "Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock." - Swooped down from above. Much like a bird of prey, or a fight jet in a dog fight, things that fly going after a target. "They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring." - possibly a link to not being clear on sound, unsoundlogic? we had a clue in day 1 about something that just didnt make sense, now we hear yells that are not clearly deciphering, but it could just be part of the story. "He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place." - a smiley? possibly a reference to someones posting style, or someone who uses smileys a lot in their posts? "He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot." - ate a mouthful, just like in day 1, eat lead for dinner, another reference to eating lead (because obviously a shotgun shoots lead) "He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire." - a jamming device, possibly people whose names refer to electronics, or if they themselves deal with electronics. "Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back." - 3 sets of 3? something with the number 3, possibly in their name, or a quote. "Yogurt and OneBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door." - sound resonate, possible clue, not going to rule it out, but i dont think its a solid clue. "they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself" - Another relation to Ghar's quote, surrounded by enemy divisions, willing to fight any one that got in their way. "OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground." - gooey substance, im going with its a clue, but im not sure to who yet. That is all i saw that jumped out at me aside from this last tidbit. During the last paragraph with OneBlueAugust and Yogurt, there were multiple comments about relative ease, or easy opponents, easy fight, etc. Possibly a link to someone in mafia. Edit: to make it easier to read per say Mr. Bob a few posts later (lemme know if you want it looking like something else) Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:10 Alventenie wrote: Unforgiven_ve has a pink rabbit as his avatar, possible correlation to Mr. Pink Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:28 Alventenie wrote: Dont forget that from last game when Chuiu wrote clues, not all clues that we expected to be pointed at a mafia were pointing at that mafia. Some clues that seemed to say point at Empyrean, could have pointed at Fen in game 1. So that clue may relate to suresh0t, even if he has Mr. Pink as a code name. the code name just could be referencing a mafia in general. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:35 Alventenie wrote:Even still, they targeted you, and now you are dead, so sadly by what Chuiu has stated in the rules, you shouldn't be posting :x Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:39 Alventenie wrote: I actually don't believe this theory of their randomness, yet. They hit multiple people who talked alot, Mynock, Oneblueaugust. They put forth multiple posts that were positive for the town. Also, they only hit 5/9 people, so that means 4 people were protected (go medics!), so possibly they were hitting targets that they believe are going to be useful for the game, people who talk a lot about clues, or try and get people to post and incur discussion. I'm surprised they didn't try to hit me last night, I made a few posts that were fairly insightful to townies that don't play as often as others. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 00:55 Alventenie wrote:they send a list in at the end of night to chuiu, who then writes the day post about who died. he makes clues on all, or almost all mafia in that post, whether they pm chuiu or not. just look at mafia 1 during the explanation at the end, mafia were just sending a list of people. | ||
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24. Alventenie Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:21 Alventenie wrote: it goes like this: To: Chuiu From: Mafia leader, Eddie Here is our kill list for tonight: 1. suspect 1 2. suspect 2 3. suspect 3 4. showtime! 5. shallowbay 6. 7. 8. 9. If they send that list, they only use 5 hits, therefore, if they want to hit shallow twice, it should look like this 1. suspect 1 2. suspect 2 3. suspect 3 4. showtime! 5. shallowbay 6. shallowbay 7. 8. 9. and if they really wanted to kill shallow: 1. shallowbay 2. shallowbay 3. shallowbay 4. shallowbay 5. shallowbay 6. shallowbay 7. shallowbay 8. shallowbay 9. shallowbay If they leave any slot blank, they dont kill anyone on the list twice, its just a no kill period. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:22 Alventenie wrote:I thought the saboteur and suicide bomber were included in the 20 mafia o.o, because there are 110 townies out of 130, so thats 20 left for mafia slots. therefore its 20/130, not 22/130 Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:31 Alventenie wrote:I believe what Ace is going on is that even though the % is close to the mean in that group of 58, its a better % of finding mafia and innocents (say one group there is no mafia, other has all 10), than say, choosing the group that didn't vote/abstained from voting. Therefore, he is picking the most reasonable approach of the use of this detective power. While i think he should just use one detective role on the ghar group, its really up to him, and if he finds mafia that way, then good for him. Otherwise until you provide a better plan (and i mean complete plan of action tomorrow) to use those powers and make them more useful than what Ace is doing, I suggest you not to try and post stuff saying that his way is retarded. edit: grammar Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:38 Alventenie wrote:Ok, I'll post about your argument, I didn't use a calculator, but i have rough numbers for you. Saying using the powers on 2x groups of 29 on a 10/58 group of mafia is his worst choice (it isnt, the 1/7 is). That means the remaining people are thrown into a group of (103-65 = 38), that means 9/38 (~23.4%) of guessing. The only problem with having those 38 vote, is that A) They all voted for different people/abstained B) They didn't vote at all, meaning they are away, not wanting to post So what Ace is doing is he is having the people he know for sure posted and voted, to use them, rather than trying an uncertainty of getting people that may be away/inactive to vote. That is why his way is the most reasonable way of doing the votes. If i had anything to guess at, he probably will use a double lynch tomorrow because of the 2 groups, because otherwise you will have 2 even groups (but that could change with the day post) Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:45 Alventenie wrote: One thing you must remember is that the burden of proof is on the accuser, therefore if you are going to attack his plan and call it retarded, but not put forth another plan that should be taken instead, then we in reality don't move forward. While making up our own minds and not jumping on bandwagons is a good idea, that will result in possibly a few things, A) Such as too many dispersed votes, meaning there will be more lists of votes than detectives can check, B) Mafia will try to coerce people into voting against other townies, because everyone will have to decipher clues themselves (and not everyone is good at it) C) Some people won't care to think for themselves and just pick the first person they see with a reasonable argument and vote who they voted for. With Ace's plan, he knows for certain the names of guaranteed townies, therefore they can all put input in on things together, trusting each other, rather than having to trust dead people and question all people who are alive. Reasonably, I think his plan is fine for what we should do. If you have a better plan than the regular saying of "Think on your own, its safer because you don't know if so-and-so is mafia or not.", then I don't think other people are going to listen to much that you have to say. PS. No, I did not think that you weren't going to respond, you wanted to start the argument, I believed that you would continue it, not just post once and vanish. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:49 Alventenie wrote: It doesn't matter if they split evenly, he is forcing the mafia to vote, AND he is making them vote the way he wants them to. Otherwise they could vote for whoever they wish, whether abstain, or voting for someone with little votes to make it look like they are trying to be helpful. The fact that he has that power means he is forcing the mafia to play on his own terms. That puts the mafia at a disadvantage because that means they will be voting for their fellow teammates (as shown with Mandolar). He sets up the suspects, yes, he does, it gives him a lot of power, but I see no reason as to not trust him as of yet. No detectives have spoken up yet, I've talked to him in PMs a couple times, and he seems no threat to me at all as a townie. Therefore, until he pulls some stunt that warrants enough suspicion, I have no problem with him using such power to have the town move forward in lynching mafia. Also, even if I did have a problem with it, there would be nothing I could do since the vast majority of the town trusts Ace, and will follow him. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:00 Alventenie wrote:Sigh, first of all, I am not Ace, I am Alventenie, not a mayor, just a townie. Also, based off of your first post, the 1/7 groups is statistically the worst decision to try to go after in theory (which is what you are basing your post on). In reality, it moves us closer to 1 mafia, but that could take up to 2 more turns to find (say he is in the 4 group, split 2/2, then split 1/1), where as the group of 10/58 could be split into smaller groups which find more mafia in smaller groups (you could easily see 4 or 5 mafia in a group of 14 the very next day, which is anywhere from 27%-32% chance of mafia), but aside from that, we find innocent townies. Yes, find the 1/7 group will find us 6 innocents, but breaking up the large group of 58, we could find groups of 14 or more innocent people. A big deal with this is the number of detective abilities we are allowed to use, therefore eventually some groups won't be questioned about. Therefore while i see that 1/7 is easier to figure out, I would rather move along with the 2 groups of 29 because you are going to find more mafia faster, giving vigilantes targets, allowing us to reduce mafia kill count faster. Finding one mafia compared to finding 10 mafia, I will stay on the 10 side. Its taking a risk, but that risk has a much larger reward compared to finding the 1 mafia (which Ace has already stated that we will find that one, because he is checking the group of 7 as well as the 2 groups of 29). So I really don't see why its such a huge deal that he is making people vote the way he wants to tomorrow. As it stands, nobody has spoken against Ace, so he is trustworthy, both the group of 7 and 58 will be checked tomorrow (you said we should check the group of 7, its being done already). Cross checking the lists takes extra time, more notes, and most of all, sometimes it doesn't work. I would rather go with a concrete list of, I know this many people on this list are Mafia, so I want to keep it that way. I have no problem with that thinking, and until it proves ineffective I believe its the route that Ace is going to take for finding mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:10 Alventenie wrote: I did read your entire post, and my post was relevant to point 1, and 2. If the vote is split evenly, then mafia are going to be found whether it was cross checked or not. Working with smaller numbers is easier (as noted in the previous post). Also, while criminals voted against Mandolar, it wasn't because they wanted to, they had to vote or be cast in suspicion. What if that group of 58 was all townies? The mafia wouldn't of swayed the vote, but they voted anyway to keep us guessing as long as possible. Well now Ace is continuing to force them to vote, otherwise they will be exposed even faster. Highly trustworthy does not mean he is incapable of making mistakes. - I never said he was infallible, I am just saying that he knows more guaranteed townies than I do, therefore he has more information than i do. Highly trustworthy does no mean he can't be a demon in disguise. - This has been proven wrong, time and time again. While it is a possibility, I highly doubt that no detectives (definitely by night 2, would have been working for him (we have had 2 for the lists of day 1 lynchings)) would have not spoken up saying he was mafia. Also, if he was mafia, why would he deliberately tell us where 11 mafia were? That doesn't sound logical Highly trustworthy does not mean that townies should defer all power to him, as we are in danger of doing currently. - While I agree with this to a certain degree, I don't defer all my power to him, I could abstain tomorrow, Ace knows my role, and it would not change the findings on the detective checks tomorrow. However, a normal townie should have nothing to fear by voting by his word, because he has done nothing to prove that he is mafia (because of the detectives). Those 3 statements you made may make sense to you, but to me, 1 is telling me that Ace is human, and not perfect, and the other 2 have been proven wrong, and proven not to be hazardous yet, so I don't see anything wrong with his plan. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:19 Alventenie wrote: From this post: At the bottom, "Can't you see i'm talking sense Ace?" Ace hasn't responded to you since last page, you have been talking with me the entire page. Also from your first post: As far as my posts, they were directed at mostly this. All your point from my point of view is about tomorrows votes, not future votes past tomorrow. Therefore, all these extra resources that you say I am saying we should do (I put them out there as something that could happen, because as it is now, that is what Ace's plan is, I don't know if he will continue to use that as his plan or not). Therefore a majority of your counter points (or first points according to you) are from what I am saying about days past tomorrow. Don't think like that, I am posting because you say this plan is retarded for tomorrow's votes, not day 4, or 5, or 6, but day 3. So until you get over the fact that I am talking about tomorrow, I am going to ask you to stop having negativity towards me about future days. Ace could have a different plan for then, I don't know, all I know is what the plan is tomorrow. Also, as much as I hate to say it, but if people aren't having fun playing mafia this way, maybe mafia isn't for them. I myself am having a good time, whether you or other people aren't means you are playing for different reasons than I, or that your concept of fun is different of mine. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:24 Alventenie wrote: I know you are not suggesting we vote for the person Ace puts forward tomorrow, you are against it. I've been posting this entire last page about how we should follow Ace's plan, not against it (like you have). If I was against his plan I wouldn't even of bothered posting, however as you said, if people don't follow the plan, it will break down, to an extent. If mafia don't follow the voting plan, then we find ourselves lots of townies, if townies don't follow it, we find some townies, but gain little ground finding mafia. And for the last thing I have to say (its 4:30 am, I am kind of tired), I have addressed your points in your argument, you just seem that what I am saying doesn't apply to them. If you wanted me to break your post down sentence by sentence I could, but I was answering generally to the points that you seemed to advocate. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 10:54 Alventenie wrote: i believe it depends on where in the kidney it is. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:18 Alventenie wrote:Max is a vigilante i believe, he doesn't fit the profile for the mafia candidates. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:38 Alventenie wrote:No offense to Araav, but if he actually did this then I am going to assume that many many people will have lost all respect for him. If there is a mafia in the chat room (which seems unlikely from Ace's talk so far, he seems very surefire or no access type), then no harm done. However, that doesn't seem like the case, so I feel that Araav pulled a very disappointing move. A big thing to me about this is that the town needs coordination, and someone pulling a move like that really just is a low blow to the town, considering no one from the town as far as I know would even try to do that to the mafia. I mean while you're at it Araav you could of just gotten everyone's account info and looked at their PM's? It is almost equal in what you pulled, considering that most people in that channel are bound to be blue. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 14:32 Alventenie wrote:i only voted once! i made life on Chuiu easy for one person at least Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 05:53 Alventenie wrote: yes, and they all lead to you dieing! Be afraid. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:58 Alventenie wrote:So they only killed 3 people?? im assuming Kau is vigi kill because Winston doesnt fight mafia profiles (or is a listed name yet), and Ordell is obviously vigilante. Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:01 Alventenie wrote:I agree with Pink on this, what is the point in lynching someone based on standing against you about your views? So far you've done things wrong, but you've done things right too. All you are doing is telling us half information, things that don't mean anything without names. Think about it this way, the mafia KNOW who is not mafia, therefore they can just kill anyone they want, they don't need an objective, all the detectives are dead, apparently our 1 jack is mia, and to top if off, our mayor is still thinking he holds all the cards to the game. Get this through your head, the town is a team, not a mayor and followers. You tried that, and fucked up, so you need to adapt and change, or you aren't going to have a town anymore. Plexa is doing a damn great job and all you are doing is releasing tidbits of info to keep townies following you. Put your votes to good use, not some random "i hope so and so shuts up because im lynching them". That proved to be a horrible idea, both in game 1 and this game, again. Learn from the past already. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 12:29 Alventenie wrote: uhm, if a vet is hit while medic is protecting him, medic protects first (so both are notified) if he loses a night life chuiu will tell him he lost a night life. Assuming he got targeted twice, it would tell him he was protected by a medic and then tell him he incurred a night life as well. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 05:53 Alventenie wrote: he is talking about scorches post of who would be a better suspect than him as Mr.Pink. Scorch thinks Rts)Night[Mare is Mr.pink (few posts up) and Rts is just saying if ulszz is mafia, then rts has to be innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 08:20 Alventenie wrote: hmmm? That seems inefficient, you are asking us to lynch 2 people (one who is not a real suspect at all currently, and another who is not as strong as multiple that we have currently) all for a guess imho. If randombum was mafia, im sure he could of swayed the vote better for himself in the beginning to be mayor. I also believe that if he was mafia, why hasnt he pardoned anyone yet? While it could draw suspicion on himself, pardoning a mafia makes the game favorable for mafia. The fact that you suggest that draws suspicion to yourself =/ Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 15:06 Alventenie wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:56 Alventenie wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:37 Alventenie wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 03:45 Alventenie wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 03:15 Alventenie wrote:I vote for L and Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 12:58 Alventenie wrote:i vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 12:47 Alventenie wrote:I vote for L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [Amber[LighT] + ] 33. Amber[LighT] Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 05:01 Amber[LighT] wrote:sweet. I v ote to lynch Dr.Dragoon first :D Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 06:53 Amber[LighT] wrote:I got ur back Falcynn don't worry =D Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:09 Amber[LighT] wrote: Uhhhh no? You can't say that people who are faking the Detective spot are necessarily mafia. They can be townies as well. Don't forget it's the Mafia vs. The Townies & The Townies vs. The Townies. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: All that said and done, I wouldn't vote for someone who sent out PM's before the game began if he wanted to be mayor. His attitude can also change within that short period. I wouldn't vote for him because he bought interest before the game even began, so it takes away from the potential fact that he could be mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.025 Posted in night7/main_page.026 Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 01:59 Amber[LighT] wrote: Do you guys know how fucked we will be if we elect a mafia member to the mayoral position? Not saying this is a bad plan, but I'd rather not know that information, or if this is found out early keep him on until later because the bodyguards will be of no use to him unless mafia fake kills him. We need double lynches and the mayor will be more inclined to cooperate early on. So I hope we don't find out our mayor is mafia early and just cut his head. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 18:41 Amber[LighT] wrote:What was the evidence against this again?.... Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:36 Amber[LighT] wrote:yah every important post gets linked on the first page so it saves some valuable digging time. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 08:12 Amber[LighT] wrote: The odds of protection is slim with such high numbers. We won't see better results until closer to the end. This is the mafia's chance to get more key role players. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 10:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:I can't see voting for Ghar since he's not even here to defend himself. It bugs me to kill him. If we are so unsure about him we should at least give him a chance or do the detective work before we get too hasty and kill someone who could be valuable. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:55 Amber[LighT] wrote:well i'm glad you guys didnt lynch ghar, but alas i will be dead come morning. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:46 Amber[LighT] wrote:shallow i'll send you a PM if I die as to why. Through playing the game a couple times now I understand their motives. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 20:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:wow .... looks like i missed this one. I'll post my analysis later when I'm in class watching some boring movies Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:31 Amber[LighT] wrote:I don't think voting for Ghar is a good idea. And why should I not vote [abstain] anyway?! Posted in night7/main_page.174 Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:40 Amber[LighT] wrote: Looks like you're done interpreting clues. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 02:28 Amber[LighT] wrote: I asked why I should 'abstain.' I never got an answer so I never took back my vote. Having people (like myself) abstain makes us look bad in the long run because you can then turn around and say: "well Amber[LighT] never actually voted, and to protect himself he just abtained." All I wanted was to know why I was to abstain. I didn't see an answer. You guys will shoot yourselves in the foot if we just vote because of 'other circumstances.' And I want to get this straight: We wanted to kill our medic?! (or did we actually think he was mafia?) Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 02:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:Oh and I'm not arguing with you specifically I just used your post cuz I noticed my name was quoted quite a bit... Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 01:32 Amber[LighT] wrote: yah so lets be careful before saying we will kill our mayor yes? Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:11 Amber[LighT] wrote:lol nice work =] Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 06:04 Amber[LighT] wrote: No you can't. Unless we get a fortune teller hero and they can speak to the dead. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 05:22 Amber[LighT] wrote:I don't think Shallow is mafia this time. It's just too much of a coincidence for him to play the same role twice in a row and his personality differ between both games. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 10:06 Amber[LighT] wrote:No one finds it ironic that the suicidebomber killed our last detective?! Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:56 Amber[LighT] wrote: How?! This makes no sense to me. We aren't posting these people's names all over the forum, unless I missed that post. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:43 Amber[LighT] wrote: So why aren't we targeting him? Did we decide it was okay to kill off all the players with special roles? Even if he's a townie that's shitty to do. Posted in night7/main_page.216 Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:16 Amber[LighT] wrote: If that was an error by Chuiu he probably would have already came up to admit his mistake; however seeing as he hasn't I'm going to assume someone in this little 'inner circle' is lying. I'll put it out there I don't trust Ace I think it's too much of a coincidence that all but one of our detectives were assassinated quickly (more frequently than the others) and our last one was guaranteed to die because they used the suicide bomber on him. I'm in doubt of the 'fact analyzing' that's going on here. I've shut up for most of the game because I believe having a mayor around is a good idea early, but we're coming close to that point where we should evaluate our 'higher ups' and question their motives. Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 19:42 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm sorry but this was just ironic for someone who plays Starcraft to post Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:05 Amber[LighT] wrote: Perhaps we should look into this? You have the list of veterans Ace? Make sure they're numbers match up to last nights so we can get closer to uncovering another mafia member. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote:Also, L, how do you know your medic save was necessarily guaranteed protection. We can't say for sure. We need to list who was actually hit. Lets also not forget it's possible that some mafia can be inactive? Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:43 Amber[LighT] wrote: ah so nevermind that. That add's more definiteness to the game where we can pinpoint strikes better than, so it's good I made the mistake so it's corrected I suppose? Is it possible for you to confirm above about the veterans? Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:44 Amber[LighT] wrote: You shouldn't know that information.... EDIT: I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong to know this info, but still the mayor can't technically talk to the dead. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:49 Amber[LighT] wrote: Yah I figured that, hence why it doesn't really matter if you cheated, lol. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 02:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:Okay so I was coming home from work today and I am switching my vote to CraziePenguin. Why?! I saw this on the way home: Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:38 Amber[LighT] wrote: :o w/e my death is pretty irrelevant since Ive witheld all my reasons for voting (besides that ironic exception of u) so I wouldn't be a big loss to the town and another person who is doing fantastic work to find u mafioso can live another day Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:46 Amber[LighT] wrote: If it means you get to stay alive another day for randomly throwing names out there than fine nominate me, but no one has even pointed a clue towards me this entire game, except you of course. It's pretty obvious that I'm not mafia. Maybe refer back to one of my earlier posts? Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 11:11 Amber[LighT] wrote: You're doubting the detective work that has been going on in this game? Let me remind you of how great of a job these guys are doing. They are picking out names from 110 DIFFERENT USERS. Don't you think if there was a clue worthy enough to pin me as a target it would have been made known Day 2, 3, 4, 5, OR even 6? Why would it take so long to actually accuse me of anything. I think you're desperate because you know you're fucked if you don't somehow manage to get someone else. And I can't be mafia. a) I already let others know this. b) I stated on page 235: This should have turned a light on or something in your head (not meant to be an ironic statement). It's pretty obvious I don't know what the killing system is for mafia. If I knew, would I ask that question? And maybe I'm using this to cover up, but it was already in a discussion including you, where I already felt you were mafia. Note also I never edited that post and I was corrected by others just posts after. As a side note this is my second mafia game (I was a townie last game), and the fact that I still didn't know how the mafia killed should have made me an automatic name to never even bother accusing or putting on a list. Ask yourself this, L. If I was mafia, would I even bother suggesting there are inactive people? If I die then thats a clue that you should target players who are more inactive with the game since they have 'killing power.' I wouldn't screw the mafia over if I was in that type of position, I would probably accuse someone who hasn't said much the entire game, voted EVERY time (whether I abstained or not I always voted), which makes me feel like you're either out to get me, or you're mafia. In either case I don't trust you. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 08:18 Amber[LighT] wrote:I think killing L would've been a good idea yesterday, so I still think it's a good idea. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 11:39 Amber[LighT] wrote: If we can somehow manage to lynch the saboteur today that will put us at a great advantage since we will no longer be role-blocked, which prevented us from a 2x lynch yesterday, and we need to utilize those for the remainder of the game. Victory is in sight for the townies, and I think knocking out the saboteur would be key. Sad thing is, who can we connect to that role? Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 20:41 Amber[LighT] wrote: But the difference is it will take 8 days with the saboteur alive, instead of 4 days to possibly eliminate 8 mafia members. 8 Days = more death on our end, 4 at least saves a couple of townies. Posted in night7/main_page.254 Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 12:15 Amber[LighT] wrote:Yah this was the quickest day ever! I didn't even put in my votes Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 12:15 Amber[LighT] wrote:....they were irrelevant anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 09:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Thanks for the generic "I'm mafia so I can't really say much, so I'll post this hoping you guys feel stupid about your choice to lynch me and decide at the last minute to keep me alive, and actually debating clues is useless because that's actually me and you really did a good job finding out who it was." Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 11:01 Amber[LighT] wrote:i hope im dead tomorrow so there will be no denying your role as mafia. =D Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 11:18 Amber[LighT] wrote: ok i believe you i won't get you lynched. love always makes everything better. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:11 Amber[LighT] wrote:I vote for Ghar to be mayor Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 05:52 Amber[LighT] wrote:I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 08:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:I vote for Wurm. My Second vote is to abstain. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 05:46 Amber[LighT] wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 01:26 Amber[LighT] wrote:I will Abstain (twice) Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 05:47 Amber[LighT] wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:54 Amber[LighT] wrote:I change my vote from L to Crazie-Penguin + Show Spoiler [Artanis[Xp] + ] 50. Artanis[Xp] Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Am I glad I don't have to make clues here. I've already set up my own mafiagame on a dutch forum with about 20 participants every try, and I can hardly make texts longer then 5 sentences. Good luck =_= Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:double lynch Dr. Dragoon and qrs! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Chuiu, another question for the Jack; If he chooses veteran and gets hit, does the hit stay, thus rendering his veteran-status useless, or is the veteran 'cleaned' after the Jack reverts? Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'd just like to say something about the bodyguard plan with one bodyguard stepping up front to accept everyone's roles; This could easily be done by the mafia too if the mayor is a mafia member. Mafia could fake being a bodyguard and thus it's not really any better then just sending the roles to the mayor. The only reason I could see this being better then just sending the roles to the mayor is that other bodyguards can verify this; but that would mean losing more bodyguards. As for my vote, it'll go to Ace for the moment. I'm not too happy with Empyrian going towards the pardoner position as of yet considering how he played last game, though. Gonna take a closer look at the clues now. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This is the situation I'm talking about. This will require an additional bodyguard to step in, which means another casualty. Edit: Although this does mean trading one mafia for one bodyguard on second thought. It could still be used as misinformation if used properly by the mafia though. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The thought was more of one bodyguard saying this, then a mafia steps in and says that, we'll need a second bodyguard to verify the first bodyguard, causing two bodyguard deaths instead of one. Posted in night7/main_page.036 Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Shallow, you thought my PM was serious? ;o Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah, but you two are discussing mafia plans and I'm not allowed in :< Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Are you sure these are not relatives/playing on diffrent comps but utilising the same network or anything? If not, I'm all for the banhammer. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The problem with this mafia plan is that once one real bodyguard gets whacked (say, by a vigilante), all the other bodyguards would realize something is up. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: As I had said earlier, once one bodyguard dies, the other bodyguards would find out that the one that died isn't in their list and would obviously protest. Mayor gets lynched and people get the list of a large portion of the mafia, plus the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Not one bodyguard, but several bodyguards and the detectives would speak out, most likely. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Until E dies and gets revealed as bodyguard, and A-D go wtf. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Or gets hit by a vigilante, which isn't a big if. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 21:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:You guys really had to bury us under a mass of posts didn't you I might switch my vote from Ace to randombum if Ace is safe, but it'd be better if people that voted for empyrian switched. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The problem with this is that our pardoner powers are now negated, and that the role-blocking mafia will be laughing as Empyrian can't do anything. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Roleblock powers don't stop pardoning, afaik. Only abilities that are PMed to Chuiu can be stopped. And if Empyrian doesn't become pardoner, he'll still likely be protected by a lot of medics. This means one of these two things: A) The mafia wastes a lot of killing power to take out one detective. B) The mafia doesn't bother trying to take out empyrian and simply roleblocks him every turn until they think they can take him out. Now, since the roleblocker doesn't have a target yet, he might as well roleblock empyrian and save the mafia's killing power so they can hit other targets. This is obviously assuming Empyrian is a real detective. If he isn't, we've protected a mafia member where a helpful townie could've been that might now get killed. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'd like some clarification from Chuiu's side as whether to the double lynches and pardons can be roleblocked. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:So, say the pardoner becomes a detective. Can the roleblocker block both the pardon and detective ability in one day/night cycle? | ||
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] 50. Artanis[Xp] Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just wanted to point out this flaw. He has a 4/130 chance of being a detective, and a 20/130 chance of being mafia. This means that if he's either a detective or mafia, the chance of him being mafia (completely ignoring any posts he made, purely statistical) weigh heavily towards him being mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: It was simply a response to his statistical analysis, which was flawed. I'm not saying we should judge based on it. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:If night is going to be posted soon, I'll stick around 10 more min. edit: so I can go to sleep if it isn't. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Yeah, it looks pretty bright for the town. Haven't really posted much as there are people much better at clue interpretation as I am. I'm reading every post though. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Have the suspects been chosen yet? Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 06:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Isn't it a good idea to force all suspects we have to vote on one person and then use the detective check to see how many of them are mafia? This could help us weed out innocent players that would otherwise get lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 04:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I have received shocking new evidence regarding Fusionsdf. + Show Spoiler + I shit you not. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Sup guys, I got roleblocked. Since all mafia already know it I mind as well let all townies know as well. Obviously, I'm not going into detail on if I actually have a role or not. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 08:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'm on a hitlist? O__O I realize that I'm at the very bottom and thus the evidence isn't very strong, but what charactaristics on Joe did you find that link to me, Plexa? Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 00:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I abstain for now. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 07:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I change from abstaining to voting for Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I change from abstaining to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I vote for Wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I abstain my second vote. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 22:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Votes: 1. Evilmonkey 2. Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I figured I should be original. #Vote L and Ulszz. + Show Spoiler [BWdero] + 78. BWdero Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 22:03 BWdero wrote:Yes a new mafia game, and i'm in this time! This is gonna do wonders for my post count. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 01:43 BWdero wrote: Don't worry, I will participating in this thread regularly. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:26 BWdero wrote:Ahhh get back from school and find mafia has started. Just read through all new posts. Very exited about all this. Hope I don't die on the first night(or first day lynch, that must suck) I voted for randombum. I voted for him because I thought his mass pm was a nice touch. Also CDRdude pointed out he had a 100% voting accuracy in the last game. This plus mayor voting powers=dead mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:35 BWdero wrote: Randombums mass PM would be suspicious. But he sent it before roles were handed out so we know that it is not a mafia ploy. And he does have a spotless voting record last game. Although his participation could have been a bit higher. Ghar is on my suspect list, and others seem to distrust him aswell. So I am wary of putting him in a position of power. Araav has a conservative double lynch platform. Something I find counterproductive. We should lynch early and often. Empyrean, well, I don't trust his "I am a detective". Why would a detective make himself a target so early in the game? Seems like mafia shenanigans to me. All in all, Randombum seems like the best choice of the four. Any thoughts on this? Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:50 BWdero wrote: Fair enough, I suspect him because someone linked a clue to him and others seemed suspicious. I agree that this is no grounds for lynching him or even accusing him of being mafia. It is far too early for that. I simply wish to be on the safe side when it comes to electing a mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:15 BWdero wrote: True, we should save some double lynches for later. But I still feel uncomfortable with not double lynching early. It allows the town to confirm or disprove its early suspicions faster. Thus making it easier to find mafia. Assuming we don't go bandwagon on groundless accusations of course. Which I hope we shall avoid this game. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:07 BWdero wrote: Didn't stop them from framing dr.dragoon. And also, why would a detective reveal himself so early? If he is telling the truth, he is almost certainly a mafia target right now. Costing us a valuable detective. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:47 BWdero wrote:Out of all mayor candidates right now. I prefer ace and randombum. Ace has a great plan and obviously knows what hes doing. No mafia would do what he is doing. And we know for a FACT randombum began his campaign with the best of intentions. And I find myself agreeing alot with the both of them. Either one as mayor and the other as pardonner is fine with me. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:15 BWdero wrote: His own fault, claiming detective this soone was stupid. Whether it's true or not. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:43 BWdero wrote:Ouch, 2 blues, and a jack among them. However, mafia only managed to kill only 5 of us. So they must have wasted at least some killing power. I guess thats good. Clues, I am seeing some clever finds. This is the time to analyze the clues so we can get the DTs to investigate. So good work there. Will try to figure out some clues myself, will post my findings later. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:28 BWdero wrote:Alright, I looked through the clues. Heres what I came up with. Clue: Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. My suspects: Lysithea: His quote is Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. I feel this describes Mr. Blonds move nicely. Zeks: His quote: With great power comes great responsibility, is directly from spider-man. Spider-man can cling to ceilings just like Mr. Blonde. Clue: Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. My suspects: MidnightGladius: Snake Charmer weilds a sword at night, a gladius is a type of sword. Clue(s): Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. (electronics going haywire or dead, caused by Taipan Snake) My Suspects: Energies: This mafia was controlling electricity, or energies. He is also taipan snake. Which is an Australian snake. Guess where energies is from? Amber[LighT]: Amber[light] has a quote by iNControl. Maybe because he is in control of the lights? Clue: Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. My suspects: Queasy: The fellow known as sidewinder is sickly looking eh? Perhaps he is feeling a bit queasy? Clue: As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. My suspects: Ghar: Because of L's magnificent find. I dunno, some are pretty weak, others seem more likely. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:29 BWdero wrote:I agree that we should abstain till we hear from ace, but ghar is looking like a likely candidate right now. Nice job L. Posted in night7/main_page.101 Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 21:45 BWdero wrote: I dont know, I assumed that mafia just sent in a list. You cant have mafia individually hit someone since there are 20 mafia and only 9 kills. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:49 BWdero wrote:Ace you rock. First day first mafia. Keep it up. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 23:16 BWdero wrote:I vote for randombum Reasoning: I like that he pm'd me. (I do realise it was a mass pm, but still) And, as CDRdude pointed out, all his votes were spot on last game. Combine that with mayor voting power, and we have a mafiakiller on our hands. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 01:46 BWdero wrote:I will abstain untill we get some solid leads. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:41 BWdero wrote:I will no longer abstain, I will now vote for mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 01:42 BWdero wrote:My first vote goes to wurm. According to aces plan. I abstain my second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 05:44 BWdero wrote:I abstain my vote. + Show Spoiler [BlindAlbino] + 62. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:52 BlindAlbino wrote:lots of candidates for mayor hm Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:26 BlindAlbino wrote:Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch. I vote Ace for Mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:44 BlindAlbino wrote:just declaring that im voting for him... empyrean seems mafiaish he keeps jumping at people. not yet ace...i want to see how the votes pan out Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:01 BlindAlbino wrote:Voting patterns is important as well. because most of the mafia members will lurk so you can't tell what they act like. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:55 BlindAlbino wrote:ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:02 BlindAlbino wrote:empyrean that is still flawed. that is assuming that one of the detectives will want to sacrifice himself(or lure paramedics) just to prove ace's innocence. as far as im concerned ace is pretty innocent Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:27 BlindAlbino wrote:yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 05:38 BlindAlbino wrote:alright well you seem to know what your talking about, so i will vote for you now Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:56 BlindAlbino wrote:how can we even be sure your a townie at this point. this is ridiculous. making the game harder for us then it needs to be Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 22:15 BlindAlbino wrote:huh? why was incontrol lynched I dont get it. hopefully you are better then that in the future ace Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:28 BlindAlbino wrote:i think its no problem if the lucker is under the land Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:51 BlindAlbino wrote:i still really dont have any suspicions of anyone, just seems like a couple people got riled up. keep our eyes on the prize guys. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:36 BlindAlbino wrote:I was wonder, if mafia try hit me and i am "veteran" what happen? i dont understand Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:20 BlindAlbino wrote:ok i understand, did not see first page Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:41 BlindAlbino wrote:good leads everybody, i am not so good at this clue stuff. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:06 BlindAlbino wrote:after reading all your thoughts, I feel the str clues are the strongest 3 letter name, and he cuts out the power...thats 2 strong clues so i will most likely vote for him Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:16 BlindAlbino wrote:^mafia Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:08 BlindAlbino wrote:why does ace want us to PM role? you cant just trust everyone this is quite dumb. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:19 BlindAlbino wrote:can detective confirm ace is town person at very least? "no detectives speaking up" is not enough...they could simply be using it on other people/inactive Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:24 BlindAlbino wrote:what clue has been linked to mandalor? why so many vote? i still think str = mafia Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:28 BlindAlbino wrote:would be like 500 china glasses breaking on asphault if ace trick us. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 16:16 BlindAlbino wrote:ok ace is deserve of respect seems. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:01 BlindAlbino wrote:if glass is under the construction site, its ok to smash anyway? Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 22:07 BlindAlbino wrote:even 5000 marble do not make pyramid. lynch wurm without proof is rain storm Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:00 BlindAlbino wrote:can mafia stop kill people -_- very annoying Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:01 BlindAlbino wrote:I dont want die Empyraen from china Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:06 BlindAlbino wrote:phew I alive again. my strong suspect are str energies bumatlarge from old/new clue.. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:17 BlindAlbino wrote:ghar seem innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:12 BlindAlbino wrote:when the cow come home, its already past 12. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:21 BlindAlbino wrote:araav has explain to do like 500 rooster in the midle of stampede Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 21:36 BlindAlbino wrote:how can hack something with no password? so dumb kid here it not funny very much. game get boring i dont think i check this any more. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:47 BlindAlbino wrote:why no red? Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:18 BlindAlbino wrote:On that list i still feel str is mafia like you point out...its why i vote him. besides this im not very sure. Queasy, MidnightGladius, Bugzltoonl all seem good as well and yes like nightmare say energies too. i use 2nd vote on him for the laast day. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 04:11 BlindAlbino wrote:I thought mayor supposed be smart Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:41 BlindAlbino wrote:how come mafia kill no one and who is new mr.lavender. 21 mafia name?? Remind me in Gobi desert. this mean all paramedics save target? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 23:51 BlindAlbino wrote:good job kill queasy. detective dropping like ball on child through puberty. how mafia get so luck i dont know. after new clue my big suspect str and energies, still bumatlarge suresh0t queasy no longer on suspect list becuz now he dead Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:48 BlindAlbino wrote:please dont make plexa die...he share same clue with me I think he right as well. but dont draw attention like this...like flies to lightbulb mafia will swarm. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 07:31 BlindAlbino wrote:Is in interest of all who condemn the future, and live in past, to become one vote from outer dimension. With open mind and furnished instincts we will find mafia this lynch. From apple to zebra we take one step at time until we fall down stairs or build foundation. with this in your mind you know its correct vote araav. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:33 BlindAlbino wrote:if it is finding down, you can look up to see clearly. what is plan of action ace? Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:40 BlindAlbino wrote:from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me. caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:49 BlindAlbino wrote:I think need pay attention more to abstain list. there are probably mafia within because only 1 mafia is voting for trancestorm, which mean we are lynching our own townie. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 12:22 BlindAlbino wrote:yes I agree with str. Three letter clue plus his quote strong. also agree suresh0t. seem obvious but maybe? hammer strong. besides this I do not know. energies seem mafia I suppose? not strong enough at point this. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 11:36 BlindAlbino wrote:hopefully he give priority in the 60 man game to active people Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:07 BlindAlbino wrote:hm not good. I am more concern about vigilante then blues, because best way to kill mafia. If names used are consistent it seem 1 vigilante already useless, used up 2 hit(ordell) this man basically townie now? 3 vigi hits left only overall. so lynch must be perfect. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:13 BlindAlbino wrote:pink, those are called lurkers. ppl dont post, but if see name they respond. its common yes? Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:57 BlindAlbino wrote:before we proceed lynching off clues, we should get guaranteeds first. I hope people see and change vote to aznviance/evilmonkey. one is most certainly mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 21:40 BlindAlbino wrote:just saw the news, changing my votes Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 01:46 BlindAlbino wrote:ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back. not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:43 BlindAlbino wrote:plexa, I hope you realize that red moon clue was for evilmonkey. caller pointed it out a while back. evilmonkey birthday was on the same day as the last red moon. surely no coincidence. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 01:53 BlindAlbino wrote:anyway, after looking through clue discussion, new biggest suspects are ieatkids5 and eit307. dont know about you guys but I am voting them for tomorrow if double lynch Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 02:12 BlindAlbino wrote:placeholder i explain one minute. Ok for one, i dont think lostyourskills is pointed to the luck clues. think it is too obvious. but if you look at eti's quote: A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new I think it could have a more subtle meaning and he could be eddie. also the 3-0-7 clue but this one is less damning. ieatkids : heros)pink already explained. pretty good. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 04:41 BlindAlbino wrote:see ace knows whats up. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:26 BlindAlbino wrote:<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UdaHCLlBkWU"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UdaHCLlBkWU" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:53 BlindAlbino wrote:hahaha = ) my hand has been dealt Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:12 BlindAlbino wrote:yes, the only thing I question is how I stay alive so long with so many red herrings. have fun guys =) Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 05:39 BlindAlbino wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:03 BlindAlbino wrote:Changing my vote from Ace to Randombum, seems Ace/empyrean are in this together from recent posts Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 01:07 BlindAlbino wrote:I vote for str Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:09 BlindAlbino wrote:I vote bumatlarge Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:43 BlindAlbino wrote:Change my first vote from bumatlarge to str, second vote goes to Energies Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 05 2008 01:49 BlindAlbino wrote:I vote for araav Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 22:09 BlindAlbino wrote:I vote for energies Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 22:10 BlindAlbino wrote: I change my vote to str second vote siefu Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 13:58 BlindAlbino wrote:I change my first vote to: evilmonkey Second vote: aznvaliance Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 21:41 BlindAlbino wrote:By request... change first vote evilmonkey change second vote siefu + Show Spoiler [BloodyC0bbler] + 77. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 15:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:or hang each other before it starts. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: send some of the roles out tonight, some tommorrow ! lol or make alot of the straglers townies Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:;p i just want the elections bit to be done so i can go to sleep lol Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:;p, its hard to believe that on page 64 we still havent made it to the first night phase. Everyone should just lay off each other till we get the first night done with and use the clues to get the game going. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:and we have our first blue killed. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Doesnt really matter on that, just a bad way to start lynching. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 11:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:It really does come down to when day time hits. Soon as the mafia have had their fun, more then enough time has passed for the dt's to do their job. Passed that its just narrowing down the search and lynching properly. Ace's plan is a good one in theory, but everyone is needed to complete it. Posted in night7/main_page.089 Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Chuiu, im not telling you how to do your game, but you could save time with your run downs by doing them ahead of time, just leaving out the names of the victims and the like, then alter them based on lynchings or the like. That way your not having to wait for hours to write one up. Posted in night7/main_page.142 Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: haha, dont cry because you were begging Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote: random luck? Or really good at reading into peoples posts. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: So he either hacked, or there is a leak, if its a hack then its bm for a mafia game, if its a leak he just proved hes mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:whoops, thought i still had a vote on ghar and useless, didnt realize i still had one on bumatlarge, sorry bout that chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:;p and we lynch our medics, we are smart. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: im waiting to see us lynch our last jack, or randomly start having vig's kill vig's Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: next round of killing will prob be a bit better of clues since we managed to fuck this up horribly. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Most likely yes, as so many people hate ace's plan as it takes fun out of the game, so the reg townies are gonna be more bored than normally they would. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote: maybe we can ask the mafia to raise their hands, and kill all those who dont....then all those who do. No im not being serious. we need a small group to really look over the clues and really research player names, etc... Remember last game the clues pointing to fen were something you would have to wiki basically to learn. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 11:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: speak for yourself, i was going for the bodiless chicken Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:I vote for Empyrean Saw how he played last game, which shows he has the abilities that are needed to be a mayor, and if he happens to be a detective all the better. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 22:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:i withdraw my vote for empyrean and now abstain Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 10:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:I vote for mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:I vote for useless Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:i change my vote from useless to ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 10:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:First vote: Ghar Second vote: useless Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 01:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Changing my first vote from ghar to bumatlarge second vote still stays on useless Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 11:39 BloodyC0bbler wrote:i switch my first vote to ghar, and my second to bumatlarge Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 10:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote:I vote for trancestorm Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 08:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:1st vote evil monkey 2nd vote siefu + Show Spoiler [BuGzlToOnl] + 106. BuGzlToOnl Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:57 BuGzlToOnl wrote:Sign me up plz, I have time to spare during spring break... yes I know quiet sad. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:09 BuGzlToOnl wrote:I vote for randombum for mayor. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 03:49 BuGzlToOnl wrote:I vote for nemY. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 06 2008 00:05 BuGzlToOnl wrote:I vote for nemY. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 00:19 BuGzlToOnl wrote:I vote for nemY. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 07:23 BuGzlToOnl wrote:I vote for nemY + Show Spoiler [CDRdude] + 8. CDRdude Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:25 CDRdude wrote:Holy crap that's a lot of people. Wow. Judging by the size, I'd guess around 20-30 mafia will be out there. Damn, that's a lot of lynching to get done. ==edit== Now, now, we shouldn't lynch Dr.Dragoon the first chance we get. Unless he's a mafia. But we should probably be nice and let him live for a day or two. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:12 CDRdude wrote:I could have sworn that I suggested breaking the thread apart by days in the first mafia thread. I guess nobody cared then :-/ Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 16:06 CDRdude wrote: He doesn't believe in us. I think he's mafia Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 05:27 CDRdude wrote: Haha, that would be epic Or maybe he'll put in two competing mafia groups that don't know about each other and laugh at all the confusion. I'm sure it'll be epic =) Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 10:08 CDRdude wrote: Probably not, but I bet most people did, and those are probably people more likely to be active. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:02 CDRdude wrote:My response to randombum: Even with this message, I have no real reason to vote for you. As far as I can tell, this is just a gimmick to get more votes. None of your points are actually very useful. Your first point: 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. Okay, so you spend a lot of time one the computer, and you'll double lynch if we ask it. That's nice. First, you mention that you spend a lot of time at home, and we can only assume you mean the computer. Fair enough, but Mafia is not a game that requires a lot of timing, unless perhaps you are mafia organizing to fix an election. I know you aren't mafia though, because I haven't received my role PM yet, so I assume you haven't either. Also, you mention that you'll use double lynch if the town asks you to. Do you think you're the only one? You were in the last game, you saw how quickly we turned on FakeSteve. Even then, he had used double lynches whenever we asked him, and he still got lynched. I seriously doubt there'll be any mayor that won't use a doubly lynch if the town demands it. Governments should be afraid of their people. Your next point: 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) Okay, I've already covered that. You're hardly unique there, any mayor we elect will double lynch if the town asks. 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. That's quite nice of you, but it's hardly unique to mayors. Many townies can, and do, analyze clues and post, regardless of the consequences. Furthermore, if as mayor you do your own analysis, you are likely to be biased in favor of your own conclusions. If you instead weigh all conclusions equally, you can use your extra votes more fairly. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. I call BS. I have no reason to believe that this is an individual PM, hand-crafted for me alone. Your PM is perfect for mailing to a lot of people; it has no specific details, and the 'wisdom' contained is simple enough for anybody to understand. If you really want to show that you care, you have to acknowledge the individual recipient of the PM. For example, I was a paramedic in the last game, and yet you did not mention this to me at all. If you had, it would have been a more tangible human connection than the rest of this PM. By not saying this, I can judge one of two things; this is a stock PM, sent out to every single person on the TL mafia list, or that you did not pay any attention last game. TLers are not, in general, stupid. Most of us, I would hope, can see through this kind of thing very easily. By sending this PM, you demean us (without meaning to, I'll admit that), and don't show any respect for the individual. A good politician can make his constituency think he cares about each of them individually. You have a long way to go yet. Still, props for trying, it's nice that you've made the effort. I might vote for you. Or, I might not, you'll know in a few days. + Show Spoiler + ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:14 CDRdude wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 12:09 Falcynn wrote: I nominate randombum for mayor! Ahahahahha, my least favorite 4chan meme finds it's way to TL mafia >_< Also to randombum: You do get points for trying, I appreciate the effort. The PM needs work though. You could try such tried-and-true lines from the politicians like "I am not a crook", or "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:53 CDRdude wrote: They are included in the mafia (there are 130 people total, 110 town + 20 mafia = 130). I would assume that the mafia know their roles, and they do participate normally in the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 15:23 CDRdude wrote:Awesome, I just got my role PM! It's on now! Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:44 CDRdude wrote:Canidates, make your speeches. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:54 CDRdude wrote: Someone already did, but he made them links, so that the post wasn't too long and unwieldy. In fact, it was Chuiu in the OP Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:06 CDRdude wrote:Okay, so far, this is what I've come up with for potential mafia: + Show Spoiler + 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 5. Caller 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 13. dinmsab 14. imDerek 15. Hittegods 16. Puosu 17. randombum 18. Yogurt 19. ulszz 20. goldenkrnboi 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 23. Falcynn 24. Alventenie 25. Empyrean 26. Fishball 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 30. JeeJee 31. Energies 32. wurm 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 45. smurfingchobo 46. aZnvaLiaNce 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 49. GranDim 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 53. Ace 54. MTF 55. MoRe_mInErAls 56. Camlito 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 61. French_Toast 62. BlindAlbino 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 65. Mandalor 66. fusionsdf 67. 0cz3c 68. New104 69. LucasWoJ 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 75. bumatlarge 76. jtan 77. BloodyC0bbler 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 80. Siefu 81. Mynock 82. Ninja4ever. 83. Chezinu 84. JoxxOr 85. ahrara_ 86. Queasy 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 90. ~OpZ~ 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 94. unsoundlogic 95. OneBlueAugust 96. TranceStorm 97. suresh0t 98. decafchicken 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 102. Meta 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 108. xDark.Carnivalx 109. MidnightGladius 110. crazie-penguin 111. CTStalker 112. {88}iNcontroL 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 115. useLess 116. Last Romantic 117. d.arkive 118. Plexa 119. G.s)NarutO 120. Evilmonkey. 121. NeaX 122. Showtime! 123. Klive5ive 124. Lenwe 125. Kau 126. Ghar 127. L 128. KH1031 129. ShadowDrgn 130. rpf Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:08 CDRdude wrote:My thoughts on the canidates: fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted half the time, although with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). I'm not sure if he'll increase his activity this game, but he seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's, with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: He posted an MS paint image, but not much else. He's an unknown here, as he registered and his first post was in the mafia thread (maybe all of his posts are in the mafia thread) SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. (These should be posted in the order that they proclaimed their candidacy. The last two on the list actually started their campaign after I started writing this, but before I posted it. Good thing I checked for that before I posted.) My favorites here are: fusionsdf -- he seems to have worked hard at rooting out mafia in game one, and was fairly successful. Props to him, but he did have another guy to bounce ideas off of. What if one person out of the pair winds up mafia, and they still trade ideas? Sure, Plexa publicly supported his nomination, but that could be real, or it could be a trick, we don't know. randombum -- His mass PM showed a bit of effort and initiative, even if it wasn't so well thought out. He also has quite the voting record in game 1, which is a point in his favor. SunuvBob -- I don't know much about him, but he's a mod. If he araav -- The man isn't afraid of doing some hard detective work. Otherwise, still an unknown. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Apparently there's more to Ghar than what I wrote down, but I'm going to ignore it for now, because it's 1:00 AM here. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:13 CDRdude wrote:CDRdude's updated candidate list: fusionsdf--I don't know if he's a mafia or not, it's too early to tell. He did announce his candidacy before the game ever began though, so he probably enjoys the game a lot. In his favor, he apparently rightly guessed a lot of mafioso from game one. However, the catch is that he did it with Plexa. Small though the chance may be, this might be during time that Plexa would have otherwise devoted to writing TLFE's. Can we take that chance? Meh: His candidacy might be a joke, he seems to have zero votes, but it was a pretty good argument randombum: I kind of liked his mass PM, it showed effort. I'm not so sure about his voting record in game 1 though. He voted with 100% accuracy (voted FS for mayor, and voted to lynch mafia the only times he voted). He seems to have quite the good record for rooting out mafia. I don't know if he's our number one choice for mayor, but it shows that he's putting some effort into it. SoMuchBetter: Ah, SMB. I didn't trust him at all last game, and he turned out to be a townie. Go figure. Also because of last game, whenever I think of SoMuchBetter, I think of a fat guy in a purple suit with a monocle. Last game, he kind of disappeared off the radar after failing his mayoral campaign, but that was probably because he didn't get elected. He also sent out mass PM's (apparently to like 10 people, rather than 130 though), with MSpaint in them (also before the role PM's), but he was pretty much copying randombum in them. Ghar: So far, all we know about him is that he registered for the forum for the mafia game, and that his plan of action is for all the detectives to PM him. I don't really like this, because the best scenario is a guy who knows who all the detectives are, with the addition of a few mafia. The worst scenario is a mafioso who is willing to sacrifice himself in return for denying the town a mayor and as many detectives as possibile. SunuvBob: After asking around a bit, he decided to run for mayor. I guess this shows that he isn't afraid of a bit of work looking through profiles, but at first he was asking others to do it for him. In his favor, he is a mod--I assume that he has methods of searching at his disposal that we do not (can you search for posts by a certain person? I don't know how). His platform is also excellent. araav: He has a fairly sensible platform, and he also went the extra mile by making a list of all of 130 profiles. I respect your hard work, but since he didn't play in the first round, I have no voting record to base stuff off of. Kuja900: I'm biased against him, because of his post. To Kuja900: please use punctuation. Ace: I missed his candidacy post the first time, but I'm liking his ideas. His bodyguard plan seems pretty damn good, much better than our elder=leader plan last game. His arguments are rational, and I'm liking that. Empyrean: Claims to be a detective, and is trying to force us to vote for him. Is it worth the risk? Why would a real detective come out of the closet so early? I'm distrustful of his early gambit, but if he isn't lying, then we might waste a golden opportunity. I just don't know. I hope that this (opinionated) guide to the candidates helps with your voting. ==edit== Forgot to add Empyrean. Oh, and I voted for Ace, in case you were wondering. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:35 CDRdude wrote:A further note on araav; he said that he is the oldest person here. If true, this is fairly valuable, for the following reasons: With age comes wisdom and experience. With luck, he has gained enough experience with age to advance a few levels, making him more powerful, and giving him bonus skill points. Also, with age, your Wis stat increases. This is important, because Wisdom includes intuition, and given the town's track record of analyzing clues, this may be important. Furthermore, WIS effects savings throws and survival checks, and Sense Motive uses Wisdom as it's key ability. All of his stat bonuses have modifiers with age. In his profile, his birthday is listed in 1979. This means he's at about middle age at this point, which means: -1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha As can be seen, you get more intelligent as well as wiser with age, as shown by his coding skills. Most unfortunately, he has -1 to Str, Dex and Con. If the mafia goes after him, this could prove fatal. This informative post brought to you by CDRdude. (RIP Gary Gygax) Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:58 CDRdude wrote:After thinking this through, I have come to the conclusion that there is no flaw. + Show Spoiler + Okay. In this example, we will have 7 bodyguards, 1 mayor, 20 mafia, and a bunch of other people who aren't important, we can call them townies. If the mayor is mafia, and is smart, he will do this: Send a PM to: Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 As far as the legitimate bodyguard can tell, this is legit. The mafia will obviously claim to be bodyguards, and Bodyguard 1 won't know better. Send a PM to: Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 Again, the real bodyguard can't tell the difference. PM3: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 . . . Mafia 6 You should be getting the point by now. If you aren't, you probably don't deserve to be mayor. The mafia mayor can do this a total of seven times, so that each bodyguard receives a PM with 6 other people on it. Each of those people insist that they are bodyguards, the real bodyguards won't know the difference, and no real bodyguard will be left out. Since no real bodyguard will be left out, nobody will stand out to say that they didn't receive a PM. This can't last forever, but it can do a lot of damage. One of two things will happen; either a bodyguard will stand out, according to qrs' plan. The other (real) bodyguards will recognize him as not being in their group, and they'll cry out. Confusion ensues, but people will soon realize that the mayor is a mafioso. However, this takes a bit of time, and the mafia gets a good bit of damage in. BUT---once the real situation is discovered, mafia's 1-6 lives are forfeit. Net gain for the town. The mafia could avoid some of this by mixing in more bodyguards to the PM's, but even then it's a loss for the mafia, gain for the town. The other possibility is if no bodyguard stands out (the mayor ignores qrs' plan) and a fake detective proclaims that the mayor is innocent. That's nice. However, that also assumes that no other detective checked on the mayor, which is unlikely to happen. Soon, the truth will come out, and the bodyguards will realize that the others in the message are fakes, and can be lynched/mad hatted/killed during the night/permabanned or whatever. End result: town is ahead. This will be a bit bloody, but about equal numbers of mafia and town will die here, so that's still +town. How to avoid all the mess: Basically, qrs' plan is needed. A bodyguard has to step forward. All the real bodyguards will know whether or not he was included in the PM to them, so you don't have to confirm anything. Of course, that bodyguard will probably be gunned down during the night, but whatever, sucks for him. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:19 CDRdude wrote:Hey guys, I just got this totally legit, 100% non-edited PM from Shallow! Wow, what are the chances Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 13:58 CDRdude wrote: While I appreciate your thoughts on the clues, I disagree with this one. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 16:32 CDRdude wrote: He's probably against FS (orr maybe joking) because FS' first act as mayor was to insta-lynch Alethios. I think he's joking, but he has reason to be annoyed. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 19:06 CDRdude wrote: If you know so much about American politics, why does your profile list you as from Afghanistan? I'm not really sure about Ralph Nader's international prestige, but I really doubt it extends to Afghanistan. And it might not extend to Australia either, which is what Ghar's profile lists. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:08 CDRdude wrote: The thing is, after the Dr.Dragoon incident, we're more likely to first lynch the accuser, and then the accused. It's not profitable for the mafia to fake bodyguard status. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:24 CDRdude wrote:These TL mafia threads are epic. We have just breached 25k pageviews, which is more than the how to use teamliquid thread--before night 1 Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:31 CDRdude wrote: I'm not sure, I think he's talking about Ghar's bad quoting practices though. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:10 CDRdude wrote:I have to say, I'm pretty satisfied with the results of this. I think Ace and randombum will make a good team, if they are both townie. I'm not suspicious of either of them so far (although that might be a mistake), so my hopes are high for a closer game than last time. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:36 CDRdude wrote:edit: Nevermind, I didn't see Chuiu's lates post above me. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:39 CDRdude wrote: This is probably the best idea, unless Ace F5's in time to save the day. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:37 CDRdude wrote:Well, shit. We lynched a Mad Hatter. ==edit== Although if he really was inactive, it isn't a big deal. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 CDRdude wrote: I can't really fault him for using his instant lynch. He can only use it when he is elected, so if he didn't use it, he would have missed his chance. Sucks that he hit a mad hatter though. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:37 CDRdude wrote:I request that a mafia or vigilante kill Showtime! on the grounds that he's a douche. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 18:03 CDRdude wrote: No thanks, I'll just console iNcontroL Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:10 CDRdude wrote:My role is Vanilla ice cream with Chocolate sprinkles and a Cherry on top. Seriously, we should wait a bit longer before PMing Ace, just to be on the safe side. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:22 CDRdude wrote: Perhaps you didn't see what happened in the last game; it was a worse rape than the OSL finals. The town needs to get it's act together this time, and start making a comeback. Also, the plan isn't that bad. It gives a known townie information, which always helps, and he can use that to reduce the odds of hitting town instead of mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:48 CDRdude wrote: First off, it's better not to overestimate ourselves. We'll have some noobs, and some smarter people, there's no stopping that. For your information I have read the thread, and I known this. The list of people's names and sigs has been posted in the thread a long time ago. I also take offense at the implication that I haven't read the posts.[-/quote-] How do you know we won't need it? I'm not psychic, and I don't think you are either. The mafia can still kill a lot of people every night. A fools-mate basically never happens. It's an example of the fastest possible checkmate. Fools-mate is theorycrafting that requires both sides to try achieve it. This game is already challenging. It's not our job to balance, it's Chuiu and Dapperdan's. Besides--winning is fun. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 16:41 CDRdude wrote: Ahaha, Chuiu wins the argument. Well played, Chuiu, well played Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 18:53 CDRdude wrote:Okay, I just skimmed the last 20 pages to catch up, I've been behind. That clue pointing to Ghar looks pretty damning, but I'll wait until Ace gives the go ahead. I hope we don't miss the window though. Sorry I haven't been active, I've been a bit busy. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 14:50 CDRdude wrote:Well, Chuiu has the final vote count up, and Mandalor is going to snuff it. I'm glad that there's such a good chance or hitting mafia on this one. Sorry I missed the vote, I didn't vote for anybody at first because Ace said so, and I didn't come back to the thread in time. ==edit== lol, somebody voted to lynch Dr.Dragoon xD Kuja900. I wonder why. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:50 CDRdude wrote:I wonder why they only killed 5 again. Either it's some sort of cunning plan that I really don't understand, or our medics are doing a great job. Anyway, it really sucks that we lost a detective. The paramedic and the bodyguard hurt too, but the loss of a detective is the worst. To Ace, is it worth it to declare a double lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:33 CDRdude wrote: Really? Then why aren't you posting your guess, with associated reasoning? I understand that you may want to lie low, in case you are right, but this doesn't make any sense. If you want to lie low, you could have simply not posted it, and PMed Ace. Why then, are you posting the fact that you have a guess, but not posting the guess itself? Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:46 CDRdude wrote:Hey guys, be nice to Chuiu in the voting thread. At least say who you are voting for, rather than just 'suspect #1' . Give the guy a break, he's underappreciated enough as it is. Or Dapperdan, whoever does the counting. ==edit== As randombum says in the vote blog, it probably doesn't count anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 15:57 CDRdude wrote:I can't recall, can somebody remind me what the case is against wurm? I don't remember ever reading why he's being accused. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:30 CDRdude wrote:Personally, I'd go with lynching wurm. Even if he's a medic, his actions are helping the mafia, so he's got to go. I would also like to see Showtime lynched because he's a pain in the ass. The only situation were I wouldn't lynch him is if I was sure that he was either a detective or a Jack. Honestly, if he was posting this crap anywhere else, I wouldn't be surprised at a ban. Why should this thread have lower standards? Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:20 CDRdude wrote:Showtime, please stop your damn whining. Its annoying, immature, and reeks of being an attention-whore. Of all the people in this thread, after your behavior, you should be the last person to whine for a ban. Please stop. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:24 CDRdude wrote: I'm pretty sure that an admin (might have been sunuvbob) posted that they had no power to view PM's. | ||
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8. CDRdude Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 07:31 CDRdude wrote:<center>Why I don't like Showtime! A statement by CDRdude</center> First off, I am not unique in my dislike of this man. I don't know Showtime! in real life, so I judge him by what I see of him; Showtime!'s posts on Teamliquid. I am not impressed. From my observation, nearly everyone in this thread detests his ignorant, spiteful, and melodramatic posts. His comments are not intelligent, but designed to provoke antagonism, and petty bickering. In the words of the man himself, "I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one". That's lovely, why don't you make one yourself? Let's start off with a look at his posting record, separated into categories for your convenience. This is not all of his posts, but many of them. Ignorant posts: There are less of these than the others, Showtime! is more troll than newbie trying to understand the rules. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 13:29 Showtime! wrote: He hasn't voted therefore he is inactive therefore he isn't even in the game anymore considering voting has officially closed. Pick someone else. To put this in context, this is in relation to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL. This is ignorant, because he clearly has either ignored, or not understood the process of selection. On March 20 2008 13:42 Showtime! wrote: The guy didn't even look to see who was active. Dumbest move ever. This is either one of the most ignorant comments Showtime! has made, or it is a troll. Neither is desired. On March 20 2008 13:45 Showtime! wrote: Not only that he didn't even look to see who !@#$%! voted beforehand. He killed someone who wasn't even still in the game = uncool especially with all the damage he could have done. Likewise, this is either supreme ignorance, or a troll. On March 20 2008 14:18 Showtime! wrote: I don't care because I'm a townie like I said before and congratz. The sooner, the better because it would be another waste of a lynch and too be honest I don't think you have much of a prayer. Of course the saboteur would use it on the first night so you wouldn't be able to get one of them. It is basic logic you goof. The fact of the matter is you voted Inc with no ground or basis other than hanging low. If you read the rules you would have known he was already out of the game. Hence a waste, hence you could have used someone else's hunch. And if you had read the rules, you would know that you are only removed from the game after missing two votes in a row. However, I believe this post was made in ignorance, rather than trolling, in spite of it's hostile tone. On March 25 2008 04:25 Showtime! wrote: Perhaps. They might roleblock randombum and attempt to vote you out, no? lol which would be stupid because then we'll know who the mafia is ha! It is almost guaranteed. They will roleblock you again Ace. So 1) we cannot double lynch, 2) kill your voting power. This was made after Ace was roleblocked the previous day, the rules state that you cannot roleblock someone twice in a row. Trolling / antagonistic posts: If you've read very much of the thread, you know what I'm talking about. The norm for Showtime! is belittling others, while lionizing himself (and once in a while, he plays the victim). Other times, his posts are just rude and sarcastic. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 11:10 Showtime! wrote: Emp, you didn't think I knew that already? Of course. You just wanted the POWA. But, yeah I must admit it was stupid of you to come out and confess. Probably not designed to be a troll, but his post here is unnecessarily antagonistic, not to mention arrogant. On March 20 2008 13:40 Showtime! wrote: Next time how about you ask before you start wasting your powers? God -_-;; What a waste. In response to Ace's instant-lynch of {88}iNcontroL. On March 20 2008 13:47 Showtime! wrote: I read all your lousy posts. Like I said I know of 5 people who would have been better. PM me. This is directly after his whining about Ace's selection of instant-lynch (whining because he lynched an inactive). This excellently showcases Showtime!'s arrogance, ignorance, and desire for attention. On March 20 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote: Yeah because active people are more likely to be mafia let alone pissed off when their mayor votes out someone who wasn't even playing the damn game. Wake up people! On top of that why would I want the mafia to know whether or not I am on the right track in the first place? That is really smart. While his comment is reasonable, his sarcastic tone is...less so. On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game? I think someone needs a lollipop. Too bad I don't have any special powers. Oh, wait: to annoy! That last line is quite true On March 20 2008 14:21 Showtime! wrote: The only players playing are those who voted or abstrained from voting. Read the damn rules, God. As I mentioned previously, this is incorrect. Unlike before, this is needlessly aggressive. On March 20 2008 14:30 Showtime! wrote: ShaLLoW needs a kleenex box guys. On March 22 2008 01:14 Showtime! wrote: We're onto him. Yes I just wanted to point it out again. Albino's are bad! :X I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but it isn't the only time he's made borderline racist comments. On March 24 2008 09:25 Showtime! wrote: What gives you any authority to say that oh wise one? There are many references that could link Ghar to Eddie. There is no denying it. Pointless, unhelpful and sarcastic. On March 24 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote: What did you expect? Regular townies still have a lot of input and of course it will be a little boring for regular townies. We have to vote on the process of elimination and sure bets. Smarten up. On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote: I lol'ed. Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?' Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc. Necrophilia loving. While there is a possibility that his homophobic remarks are in jest, this does not leave me with a good impression. On March 25 2008 11:47 Showtime! wrote: Perhaps they're a bunch of gay robots. Heh, heh. Good times. Heh, heh. Cannot touch this!! Amber what the hell have you been smoking?!?! I need some of that. The gay remarks keep coming. The last time I recall using gay as an insult was middle school, and even then I outgrew it quickly (although that may have had something to do with my proximity to San Francisco). On March 25 2008 11:58 Showtime! wrote: I DRINK BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY! AND I'M UNHAPPY BECAUSE I DRINK!! *** Lucas, I'm going to share a secret with you. Come closer. Closer, c-l-o-s-e-r my child Listen.. Just listen. Listen closely. The Mafia, the Mafia is the g-e-y!! *** It took me about five days of mediation and drinking to come to this conclusion. Use it well. Yeah that was a pretty dumb move Emp. I have no idea what they are thinking. The above post edited to remove unnecessary whitespace. On March 25 2008 22:05 Showtime! wrote: KILL THE !@#$! He's one of them. Let him bleed!! KILL the PILIPINO!! If you aren't with US you are ONE of THEM, ONE of THEM!! Ninja star attack!! Because Plexa if it isn't him then it is only two other people. We've narrowed it down and if he wants to be a little bitch, well to be frank he deserves to get his teeth kicked into the curb like the rebel he is! Communists for the win! Fascists for the win! On March 25 2008 22:15 Showtime! wrote: No, it doesn't take away from the game because as a regular townie you can still post, PM clues and shit like be part of the strategy, you stubborn dingbat. Wow, some people. I guess we won't set a new record then for 100+ players in record time then. I say we kill all 4 leads because we're better off with out those dumbfucks and their E-Drama. We need those who will work with us, not against us. I don't know who said 'dumbfucks' are, but I think I know the source of most of the drama. On March 25 2008 23:53 Showtime! wrote: NO PILPINO sounds better :D!! You are such a Phillips head. I was going to call you a towel, but Phillips head sounds better. Stop grinding my gears you terrorist! In response to wurm correcting him on the spelling of Filipino. On March 26 2008 02:20 Showtime! wrote: No, he's just trying to start shit. Got to love the E-Drama a good old game of Gey Mafia brings. This one might be an inane comment, but given his apparent homophobia, I'll categorize this as a troll. On March 26 2008 08:52 Showtime! wrote: no shit, use your head fuck, I thought I had cottonmouth. God damnit, back to the drawing board. T_T I think he's talking to JeeJee here, but no matter who it is, it's offensive and pointless. On March 26 2008 16:24 Showtime! wrote: You are blinder and dumber than I thought. bye bye kiwi. On March 26 2008 20:24 Showtime! wrote: First of all, I don't have to post shit in response to your retardness because why would I plant anything in the mafia's head? Do you think I'm stupid? Get your head out of your ass. You really couldn't buy a clue. :. you must be mafia. You have no idea of who my suspects are dumbass. Do you honestly think I would post my elaborate plan for the public? I don't think so. I'm glad you're going to be gone soon. Naaaa, naaaa, na, naaaa, naaaa, naaaa, heeeeey, heeeeey, heeeeey goooood-bye! On March 27 2008 21:12 Showtime! wrote: Learn to fucking read. Now go back a few pages, read what I said and then stfu. It's people like you who make the world go round you stupid towelhead. And to aavar leave the clue detecting to the smart people because it sounds like you're on a wild goose chase that is leading to nowhere. Who knows? Perhaps you are mafia because almost all of your targets have been ludicrous, but it helps because I know of more than a few people who are trying to swing votes around to the town. Keep it up, easier to catch you. On March 28 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote: i just had to point this out again. my God, how do you sleep at night? On March 28 2008 23:32 Showtime! wrote: Maybe you should take your own advice for once and stop trolling. Seriously though, I would settle this person to person because some people just deserve a beating. Stupid Armenians. I already had to deal with one before and stop pretending to be the village idiot because we all know you were there hackz. I'm finished with you and your gey antics. Go find some kleenex because nobody likes you. cry baby and learn english - it is demeaning Racism, homophobia, rudeness and threats of bodily harm. Showtime!'s got it all, doesn't he? On March 28 2008 23:56 Showtime! wrote: rofl go get a life i find it funny that someone would lie about something so trivial. it is stupid townies that are slowing us down. we already wasted two rolechecks on people -- i always figured the guy was clean and i never put him on my list especially considering chuiu didn't want to do anything about it in the first place = dead giveaway. the guy really must have no life what a sad little, little man i'm starting to feel sorry for the guy - his buttons are way too easy to push On March 29 2008 00:57 Showtime! wrote: no so far kau they're all townies and you guys keep forgetting something - i could just get pardoned by randombum all you guys are doing is wasting more time and proving me right again keep going after townies while the mafia looks on which is really smart - some of you really need to learn to lighten up a bit it's kind of sad at this rate all the mafia have to do is sit back and bust out the popcorn. They could probably get away doing this for maybe 5 games and they'll keep winning this way IQ of the town hmmm! this is why i don't post anything public The only place I've seen more arrogance than this is 4chan. On March 29 2008 02:02 Showtime! wrote: Ace confirmed it. A number of other people will be able to as well once the game is over. I'm not going to discuss this again. Wait until the game ends and we'll give you guys our logs. araav take my bet then unless you are scared you numbskull Melodramatic posts: (I tend to use melodramatic interchangeably with attention-whore) Showtime! want's attention. Most of his posts in this section can be summed up as: 'I know something that you don't, but I'm not going to tell you.' In other words, Showtime! often claims to know mafioso, but never publicly reveals his suspects; only that he has them. Always, this begs the question of who they are. More rarely, he exaggerates the ill effects of a situation, attempting to play the sympathy card. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 10:17 Showtime! wrote: That is obvious ban material. Get rid of him before he does damage to the game, or else we have to restart the game. I consider this melodrama or at least overly dramatic, because of his appeal to fear and emotion (and he is ignoring logic) when he says we have to restart the game. On March 20 2008 09:26 Showtime! wrote: We're the mob. What do you expect? Here, he just wants attention. On March 20 2008 13:41 Showtime! wrote: Considering Incontrol wasn't even active I think it would only be fair to give another townie the role of Mad Hatter. I could have given you five better picks than him. Really, this post falls into several categories. It's arrogant, and probably offensive to Chuiu. But most of all, it is an attention-whoreish post, much like Joseph McCarthy's famous list of communists. He mentions five better picks, but does not elaborate. He can argue that he is doing it to escape mafia attention, but the act of posting demands attention. Showtime! knows this well. On March 20 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote: I'm not announcing it public. The fact of the matter is you could have killed 3 for the price of one if incontrol was even playing. We need another mad hatter. This begs the question, why? On March 20 2008 13:50 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, like I want the mafia to know who I suspect. They're posting privately so I will as well. This also falls under attention-whore because nobody had responded to him since his previous statement (directly above). If not for the attention, why would he post again, with no clarification asked for? On March 20 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote: hahaha read between the lines and you tell me who you think I'm accusing. How about em' apples? har har har I'm sure he was very pleased with himself after he posted this one. On March 24 2008 05:20 Showtime! wrote: Ace, I already gave you my list. You know my answer. Again, this begs the question of 'what list?'. If he had PMed a list to Ace, posting in the thread is entirely unnecessary. On March 24 2008 16:01 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, they already made a few mistakes. We have another three more lined up ready to kill. And yet he declines to share any information. This is part inane commentary, and part attention-whore. On March 26 2008 02:53 Showtime! wrote: Um, we have a lot more than just 2 verified. lol Arrogant, and begs the question. On March 26 2008 03:14 Showtime! wrote: Maybe no one has any trust in you fanatacist to be divulging any info to you. Like I said before, I know the mafia is going to try and hit me tonight. I've done more than my fair share to help the Town win tyvm. The clues Chuiu gave us have been extremely helpful and I have given more than a few people my list of 9-14 names. If clue detecting isn't your thing leave it to someone else. Either way those people are going to get exposed soon. Ace even said, "Tomorrow shit will really hit the fan." I couldn't agree anymore. From what I can see, Showtime! really loves being above, or better than other people. On March 26 2008 20:44 Showtime! wrote: Our illogical Kiwi friend --> it goes back quite a few pages. Now then, if any more 'rebels' want to fire more blanks in the dark --> get a clue beforehand because it's very unlikely you know our agenda. In other words (for those who are slow around here), if all you do is read this thread then you probably have no idea what's really going on behind the scenes. I'll bet you really love being "behind the scenes." On March 27 2008 13:14 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, looks like we'll have to go with Plan C. Got to thank the Mafia for one thing and one thing only. They made our double lynch a lot easier today. I think we're going to have to get a IRC channel to discuss our next course of action. When Showtime! writes 'we', I read 'Other people will make an IRC channel for me, and until then, I'll spam the thread some more. On March 27 2008 13:25 Showtime! wrote: I think I know who Black is, but I've been wrong before. On March 28 2008 05:23 Showtime! wrote: Ace I think it's time we schedule that meeting. I don't want Lucas' death to go in vain. There is no reason why this can't go in a PM, unless it is to draw attention to himself. On March 28 2008 06:18 Showtime! wrote: Once you get home check the channel. We need all the foot soldiers in there. Inane commentary / Spam: This is the majority of Showtime!'s posts. I haven't included all of them here, but the sheer volume should give you the idea. Showtime! has 'contributed' pages of useless spam to this thread, more than any other player. I think his need for attention compels him to post fluff, in order for recognition. However, this category is still distinct from the melodramatic. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate random humor as much as the next fellow, but enough is enough.[-/i-] + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote: What I want to know is what the hell does he get out of doing all this for us? ._. On March 20 2008 11:30 Showtime! wrote: Too bad I don't have any power because then I could avenge the loss of Empyrean. We're going to lose a good player early. -_- On March 20 2008 11:14 Showtime! wrote: It was a smart strategic move of you at the start, but not anymore pal. I might have helped cause the turnover. My bad. Showtime! admitting wrongdoing; I'm shocked. On March 20 2008 13:27 Showtime! wrote: Inc hasn't even voted you goof. -_- I love how we have to make everything public. It's so grand! On March 20 2008 13:32 Showtime! wrote: lynch pinky. show some authoritay. On March 20 2008 13:34 Showtime! wrote: lynch c0bbler for telling you to lay off. On March 20 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote: I haven't verified your role in this so why should I? Ninja! On March 20 2008 13:59 Showtime! wrote: I'm C. On March 20 2008 14:01 Showtime! wrote: I think you know more than you can chew nemY but what do I know? I'm Irish and drunk. Well, then send a detective and waste a turn on me for all I care. On March 20 2008 14:06 Showtime! wrote: I thought it was still St. Pat's = the official town drunk. On March 20 2008 14:08 Showtime! wrote: They did take out the biggest target per say. phat move On March 20 2008 14:24 Showtime! wrote: let him be I find it quite amusing just ignore him if he bothers you that much you may very well be this game as well too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on On March 20 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote: No, I'm third generation. No relation to the Black Donnelly's. First of all, get your facts straight: I'm the Town Drunk. I should be able to toss beer bottles at people or have the option of slipping a roofie into someone's drink rendering them useless for one night. That would be a cool role. On March 20 2008 14:41 Showtime! wrote: What good would that do though? I didn't know the Human Torch was in this game. FLAME ON!?!?!?! On March 21 2008 03:46 Showtime! wrote: Ok, just wanted to clarify. Hopefully everyone plays by the honor code then. On March 21 2008 04:42 Showtime! wrote: I'm talking about Lysithea. On March 21 2008 04:43 Showtime! wrote: Or how about you go get whacked nemY? ;p On March 21 2008 05:19 Showtime! wrote: It was as if Incontrol didn't read up on all the rules beforehand. Ace is clean. On March 21 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote: Heroes. On March 21 2008 08:44 Showtime! wrote: your welcome feel free to add to the pile of barf anyway we have some direction now thank you for being so active y'all On March 21 2008 08:50 Showtime! wrote: Naib, we better not find you sleeping in the same bed as Shallow's mom come morning that would really, really suck On March 22 2008 01:42 Showtime! wrote: It's Pinky and the Brain, Pinky and the Brain One is a genius and the other is insane to prove their mousy worth, they'll overtake the earth they're Pinky, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain Narf!! No Hotbid, that would be just too convenient!! I think the Mr. Pink clue could also be directed to sexsexpussyhair as well. On March 22 2008 01:53 Showtime! wrote: Why are you digging yourself into a bigger hole Heros? One thing is certain, we need bigger clues. On March 22 2008 06:33 Showtime! wrote: Me too Empyrean. Join the family T.T On March 22 2008 06:40 Showtime! wrote: No, but Empyrean is a sexy beast. They kill him off and then we're down one sexy beast. I mean w-t-f man! W--T--F. I should make a 'Pray for Empyrean' sign. On March 22 2008 06:43 Showtime! wrote: Yes, but we need to keep as many of our sexy beasts as possible. I mean we already lost an ultralisk! On March 23 2008 05:12 Showtime! wrote: kill the !@#$! On March 23 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote: Not all of the detectives checked in yet? GAY. Ace check your PMs. You must have around 30. I mark this as inane, because I think that his use of the phrase 'gay' is not homophobic in nature On March 23 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote: My thoughts exactly. We need to fry the bigger fish and Ghar isn't it. On March 23 2008 14:16 Showtime! wrote: Son aren't you supposed to be hanging low my main man? On March 23 2008 14:17 Showtime! wrote: Yes, we know all Albino's are mafia. That is a given fact. Now sh! I think he's joking here. On March 23 2008 14:28 Showtime! wrote: PM them ace. How much time do we have left until night? On March 23 2008 14:33 Showtime! wrote: He usually gives us some warning in advance anyway, bah. We need to avenge some of our comrades. On March 23 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote: But I want my vengeance now *pouts* A good defense is a good offense. On March 23 2008 23:28 Showtime! wrote: NO, it's because we have bigger fish to fry. On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote: At the very least we can say we avenged Mynock. On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote: yeah almost 10PM there. i meant to say 11. On March 24 2008 07:01 Showtime! wrote: Someone's sarcasm detector isn't working. On March 24 2008 08:14 Showtime! wrote: no shit, he pretty much gave it away. This is what the PM is for people. Wake up. On March 24 2008 08:26 Showtime! wrote: Answers should be PMed. On March 24 2008 08:59 Showtime! wrote: vigis should be checking in. On March 24 2008 12:29 Showtime! wrote: Too bad you cannot just buy one. I'm the town drunkard. He's the town idiot. Isn't it a wonderful life? On March 24 2008 12:38 Showtime! wrote: Why would I vote for a mafia mayor? I suspected him of being Mafia a long time ago. I guess Ace and I will have to have a drinking contest then to settle this once and for all. On March 25 2008 03:09 Showtime! wrote: No, you need a On March 25 2008 05:26 Showtime! wrote: That was too funny. Haha Shallowbay. ;p On March 25 2008 05:40 Showtime! wrote: Too bad Mora isn't playing <3 Mora On March 25 2008 05:46 Showtime! wrote: Which one is it baby? Spitz or Swallows? Yeah, but we at least have 6 more to identify. On March 25 2008 06:06 Showtime! wrote: Awww I wanted to call it 'No mafia in my house plan' or MILF - 'Mafia is losing, fuckers' On March 25 2008 06:15 Showtime! wrote: PMing. This might have been a non-useless post once, as it was one of his (many) edited posts. On March 25 2008 11:21 Showtime! wrote: Here Mafia, mafia!! YOUUUUUUUUU WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Catch me if you can!! On March 25 2008 12:05 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, he's pretty stubborn. Just like me!! 8D He wants every convict to be 100% confirmed before we do anything. On March 25 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote: BUT I WANT TO GET DIRTY TONIGHT. OH WAIT, THEY'RE ONTO ME!! Ninja mode on. On March 25 2008 12:46 Showtime! wrote: Shallow because you and I are both being taken out tonight fellatio style. Damn gay robots. On March 25 2008 12:48 Showtime! wrote: Dude, those are men. Watch out for the Mai Thai's. I admit, I found (and still find) this comment amusing. On March 25 2008 12:58 Showtime! wrote: Because he is a ninja from the land of sexsexpussyhair where are the gay robots can roam free and enjoy free Mai Thai prostitutes. On March 25 2008 13:02 Showtime! wrote: oh snap! KILL KILL KILL THE WHITE MAN. Oh wait he is Phill-o-pinooooooooo. Just kill him already. This may be a joke, or it may be racism. I really hope that it is a joke, so I'm categorizing it as frivolous. On March 25 2008 14:22 Showtime! wrote: No but I heard pounding beers back doesn't hurt. You might want to try it sometime. Oh, wait you're in the States and you only have Miller Lite and Budweiser which tastes like piss water. Get a bottle of Jacks and swallow her down. On March 25 2008 22:55 Showtime! wrote: Oh no he didn't! He did, he did. :o I really don't know why this whitespace was necessary. On March 25 2008 23:10 Showtime! wrote: WURM MUST DIE! DIE, DIE, DIE!! The fact he never confirmed his identity with Ace and blindly saved someone on the first day doesn't ADD UP! DIE, DIE, DIE!! He's a terrorist! He must gooooooooooooooooooo! On March 25 2008 23:57 Showtime! wrote: No, you're a towel. On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote: Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter Pink!! YOU AREN'T HELPING THE CAUSE!! I vote PINKY and the BRAIN to die!! I too, would like to see the end of spamming useless banter. On March 26 2008 12:02 Showtime! wrote: I think he's drunk too. Hey, hey, hey Pink, I think we figured out who the Narc is this game. On March 26 2008 15:56 Showtime! wrote: Yeah what he said. KILLLLLLLLL HEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR. KILL HER. HANG HER NOW PLEASE. HANNNNG HHHHHHEEERRR On March 26 2008 16:09 Showtime! wrote: If that is the last defence of the mafia then they just failed. On March 27 2008 09:48 Showtime! wrote: He was obviously drunk. On March 27 2008 12:41 Showtime! wrote: Oh snap!! Look who's still alive and nice try >;D On March 27 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, I think they're just firing at will hoping to get lucky. To answer your question random I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one so we can discuss it there -_- Ace I think we should do the three group thing man. I want to pin point those bastards in 1 day rather than 3. While this list is incomplete, not showing all of his posts, the basis can be clearly seen. Also to note, is that very many of his posts are edited. From what I recall, his material was typically more offensive before it was edited, perhaps an admin can confirm or deny this. Showtime! spends most of his time seeking attention from others, via insinuations, useless commentary, and outright flaming. Why do we suffer his presence? Supposedly, he has an important role, that has been confirmed by Ace. This is what he wants us to believe. His more recent posts have been insinuations of importance, raw arrogance, and insinuations of narcissism, elevating himself above the status of others. Yesterday, Showtime! has repeatedly made reference to a conference with Ace, publicly posted, leaving us to conclude that he is somehow better than us. Strangely, Ace never publicly places such importance on Showtime!'s opinion. However, what finally brought this rant to the surface is his incessant begging for a ban of aarav. Showtime! claims that arrav hacked into a private chat. There are two problems with this. One, hacking a private chatroom is not related to TeamLiquid in any way, so I don't think it warrants a ban. I do not know TL moderator policy in this matter, but I have my doubts as to whether it is a banworthy offense. Second, you cannot hack something that you don't know about. Someone had to leak details of a private chat, but you repeatedly ignore this fact, instead trumpeting your protestations of victimization, and that we should restart the game. Showtime!'s posts: + Show Spoiler + On March 28 2008 11:44 Showtime! wrote: I have a big fucking complaint which might get this game closed. Our 'programmer' from Armenia decided to take it upon himself to infiltrate a chatroom where many of our key players were located. :. he knows many of our key players and this is just down right wrong. We might have to re-start the bloody game now. This is obviously against the rules. I'm down right pissed. Ban araav please you unethical bastard. Showtime! is seriously overreacting. Again. One of his attention-whore techniques is making a mountain out of a molehill, and in my opinion this qualifies. Restarting the game because of someone showing up in a chatroom is way out of proportion, and everyone here knows it. Second, where does it state anything wrong with this in the rules? I wish Showtime! good luck finding it, because it sure as hell isn't there. Finally, you have no right to request a ban. The moderators have better things to do with their time than follow your every whim. On March 28 2008 11:56 Showtime! wrote: No, it is an unfair advantage to use something like that and it is fucking unethical. It is one thing to pose as a blue it is a totally different thing to enter a chatroom where the mod is afk as well as others. It was a boneheaded move and play. The fucking guy is 30-years-old and should know better. How mature. I know... lol, look ghar we know you are mafia, we know he is and fuck to hell with it I think it is safe to assume I now have 10 of you. I'm not sure what's unfair about it. Someone had to have told him about the chatroom, because you can't hack something if you don't know if it exists. I know that Showtime! will ignore this fact because it is contrary to his premade opinions, but it is a fact nonetheless. And when Showtime! mentions unethical, I can't help but think that his racism and homophobia are also unethical. On March 28 2008 12:00 Showtime! wrote: the guy deserves to be banned period no discussion you can say whatever you want in a public forum. anything goes i personally don't care but when you take it upon yourself to hack a private chatroom that is unacceptable. Again, he's just trying to make a spectacle. He brings nothing new to the discussion, but instead makes sure he can't be ignored. On March 28 2008 12:12 Showtime! wrote: wurm sorry but i just spoke with ace and he never gave you the channel nor did he give every medic the channel either so the guy broke in. in fact none of the medics know of it, so i don't buy that for one second. Here, he does bring new information, but he offers no way of proving it. Basically,he just makes sure that we can't forget him, and that he's important. On March 28 2008 12:23 Showtime! wrote: there is no leak. the medics simply don't know the chan. only 100% verified people and key players or strategic minds. his response will probably go something like this: "i have no life." Here, he's just being childish. His first sentence is a slightly more advanced form of 'nuh-uh', and his later ones just insist that he's right. On March 28 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote: considering none of us gave it to him and the guy took it upon himself to break in he has officially ruined the game. Oh well, we'll suck it up and find a way to win I guess, but that is total balls. Hopefully an Admin will ban him period, but I would like an explanation beforehand as well. It's official now? I thought it was only official when Chuiu or Dapperdan said so, and Chuiu had just said explicitly that he didn't care. Also, he's trying to elevate his own importance by implying that the admins follow his every whim, and that he deserves an explanation if he asks for one. Showtime!, I am sick of your attention-whore ways. You may be important to the town, but you are vastly overblowing your own importance, and flying it in the face of others. TeamLiquid is better than this, and we do not deserve to suffer you here. I recognize that I have no say in moderator policy, but if Showtime! is banned, I will be the first to cheer. + Show Spoiler + Thank you, that is all for now. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 06:28 CDRdude wrote: No real meaning for the name? Are you kidding me? Mandalor clearly refers to the Mandalorians, an extinct race in Star Wars. In the movies, Boba Fett was well known for his distinctive Mandalorian battle armor. Sorry for the non sequitur, but this is important to me Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 06:52 CDRdude wrote: Don't take the FakeSteve route. We've complained, but we've done what you asked. Since you have information that we don't, staying silent is just selfish and petty. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 14:14 CDRdude wrote: Remember guys, we already can analyze Chuiu's clue styles. Chuiu posted a full clue list at the end of the previous game, and the vast majority were written by him rather than Dapperdan. Link here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...pic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091 Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 05:26 CDRdude wrote: Randombum has also repeatedly asked for a rolecheck. In my eyes, he isn't likely to bluff that frequently. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 00:26 CDRdude wrote:So do we have any information on the suspects for tomorrow? Do the detectives have new information for us? Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 03:22 CDRdude wrote:With 1 detective and 1 jack left, it seems that we have to start relying less on Ace's categorized voting, and more on clues. One of our strongest assets is our full vigilante strength; we have 4/4, and we'll have to use them well in order to win this. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:34 CDRdude wrote:The amount of DT and blue kills is pretty suspicious. We've either had a lot of bad luck, or there's a mafia insider. I think our best bet is to lynch both aarav and randombum; both of them apparently had access to the names of some blues, and neither of them seem to have any important roles (no offense randombum, but pardoner is pretty useless). I'm sure that at least one of them is town, but unless we get some more solid clues, this may be our best bet. So, unless we get more information from Ace, I think aarav should be our first target. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 13:41 CDRdude wrote: Ah, crap we're screwed ;-) Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 12:46 CDRdude wrote: Quoted to preserve evidence! ==edit== And to bump the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 15:30 CDRdude wrote: So you aren't going to tell the town what the detectives discovered? How considerate. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 11:29 CDRdude wrote:Count me out for next game, I'm not doing much good here, and I'm not very active. I'll watch from the sidelines though. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 07:07 CDRdude wrote: There's another acronym for CDR; my initials. In my opinion, it is the most likely candidate for the inclusion in my TL id. But you never know, I might be wrong ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 03:08 CDRdude wrote:Since this seems to be a theme, if I die tonight, nothing of value will be lost. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:55 CDRdude wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 14:39 CDRdude wrote:Dang, I missed it. I'm active though! ==edit== In case you decide to count again, I vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:52 CDRdude wrote:I vote to lynch Showtime! With my second vote, I abstain. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 08:35 CDRdude wrote:I vote to lynch aarav Note to self: remember not to edit this post, make a new one instead if I change my mind, Chuiu says so. + Show Spoiler [CTStalker] + 111. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:33 CTStalker wrote:sign me up Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 00:52 CTStalker wrote:I abstain + Show Spoiler [Caller] + 5. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:58 Caller wrote:I'm also running for mayor. Why you should vote for me: I have nothing better to do and will try to be the first person to vote. That means double lynching galore. I'm also random, so even if I was mafiaso I wouldn't care what I do. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:19 Caller wrote:"The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head." The Taipan Snake is from Australia. Who here is an Australian? As for the Wolf, it could be anything, but could it perhaps be a reference to a fairy tale, like Red Riding Hood or Peter and the Wolf? "Solemn but seeing a promising future" No idea what this means. "Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner" I'd presume it's somebody that's a leader at TL. "Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive" Maybe Ieatkids? No idea, but I'd presume it involves something with either blood or dogs. "Mr. Blue got in the last word" LastRomantic maybe? Or is that a bit obvious? The King Brown Snake, fyi, is the 2nd deadliest snake after the Taipan in Australia. Maybe we have 2 Australian Mafiaso? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:09 Caller wrote:I've decided to change my mind and run for mayor, but I would like the pardoner spot. The pardoner spot last game was not used at all. Indeed, Tracil didn't pardon a single person even though he was towny, and even though many of the people that were lynched were townies as well. For instance he didn't pardon Live2Win and Nightmare, both of whom had plenty of evidence against other people. I would like to be pardoner in order to use my ability with more care. And what of it? If Ace's bodyguard plan is enabled, the mayor can send messages to the pardoner to pardon certain people that may be in danger of being lynched, i.e. bodyguards. However, if the pardoner is stubborn, he/she may not take advice and decide to act unilaterally, which is a bad thing. If the pardoner is also mafia, he/she can choose to listen, which may or may not help the mafia depending on who was pardoned, or they could choose not to listen, which would either incriminate the pardoner and/or the mayor. I hope I've demonstrated that I flipflop a lot in the previous game, and while this may be bad, it means I am more open-minded than perhaps other people. Because I have little to do, I might be able to jump in and pardon people if I am informed that they are in danger. If I am elected mayor somehow that would be interesting. But I don't think I would be qualified as a mayor more than Ace. That's why I would rather be pardoner. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:04 Caller wrote:I have a concern with Ace's plan: suppose that the mayor is townie and all the bodyguards get the right messages then suppose that a mafia false claims that hes a bodyguard. that means we'll end up killing several bodyguards and potentially the mayor for a mafiaso. not a good trade. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 07:22 Caller wrote:wheres day post -_- Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:43 Caller wrote:It seems to me that yogurt the mad jack put a bomb on CTStalker. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:35 Caller wrote:I'm assuming that perhaps the name of each snake corresponds to the geographical location of a person. For instance we have 2 Australian snakes (great black or mamba or w/e and the taipan) and at least one american snake (the cottonmouth) Edit: They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone lots of messages to phones and calling. In preemptive defense of myself before I go to bed, I would like to point out that a similar red herring occured last round involving the cutting of phone lines and the like. Waittttttttt a minute... Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:39 Caller wrote:Going back to the phone clue: FROM LAST ROUND: "One stayed out, cutting the phone lines, preparing for the case that the residents may make an emergency phone call. [fen] " Hmmmmmmmmmmm................................... Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:30 Caller wrote: The phone portion is so obvious and plainfaced that it seems to unreasonable to be a clue. Especially when it's mentioned like five times. And he doesn't eat lead, he eats "buckshot." again, my quote is from monty python, and i am somewhat active, thank you very much. i have things to do ya know ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:08 Caller wrote: I'm still here lol although you could easily make the case about many, many other people that their activity went down. I have irl reasons though, like ya know gfs and aps and whatnot ^_^ Edit: although i suppose my signature is quite open to interpretation: Original quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: Bread! Apples! Very small rocks! Cider! Gravy! Cherries! Mud! Uh, churches! Churches! Lead! Bread-Could be referral to Mr. Brown Apples-Either blood or maybe some biblical reference to the snake-OMG SNAKE MUST BE SOME SORT OF CONNECTION Very small rocks-buckshot or lead i guess is what people are making connections to, also maybe small enough to be smield by a SNAKE Cider-Umm, apples which lead to bible which lead to SNAKES Gravy/Mud-a slippery substance? or maybe has to do with Brown, like the King Brown SNAKE Churches lead to god which leads to bible which leads to SNAKES Lead-the buckshot thing again, or maybe its the leader like Eddie the entire thing is Monty Python. Pythons are SNAKES Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:12 Caller wrote:yeah this cloak and dagger nonsense is irking my suspicions... maybe the dts are inactive or something? Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:02 Caller wrote:keep in mind that the mafia can very easily remove bodyguards quickly at that stage if ace becomes vulnurable it may be necessary to reestablish a chain of command otherwise we'll panic and start pointing fingers, and then the inevitable bandwagoning will happen... Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:46 Caller wrote: mafia have 9 kills per day, they might get lucky statistically it is pretty likely that they'll axe a few BGs a day. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 20:09 Caller wrote:I have a question, only 5 people died, did any veterans report any hits today? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 20:11 Caller wrote:I fail to understand how Ace despite the fact that he seems to take all sorts of precautions can't even get the blues to use codenames in case of mafia infiltration. This is completely ridiculous and I'm starting to doubt the authenticity of Ace as a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:51 Caller wrote:fishball you're dead lol I don't think your allowed to say anything just like Mandalor Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 04:52 Caller wrote:Why am I not surprised somehow at the results of the lynching? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 20:14 Caller wrote:Wow, 2 DTs. WTF happened. Is it just me or are we losing a disproportionate number of DTs... I'm curious as to Ace's affiliation right now... Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 21:17 Caller wrote:I think that Eti307 is mafia again this round based on several clues. Remember a while back there was a mention of how someone threw three knives into three different body parts? 3, 3, 3... Person #3 is Eti307. Then there was a clue about a "three house raid." Hmm... Now there's another clue about 3 nails. 3, 3, 3... Eti307. Not to mention his behavior this round is remarkably similar to his behavior last round, where he was mafia as well, and on top of that he's been very quiet. Hmmdehmmm...^_^ As I've already just put my head on the chopping block, I might as well come out with other accusations as well. A while ago, on Day 1, there was a mention of a red moon. Now, what does a red moon do? It signifies a Lunar Eclipse, and the last one was on February 22nd... the same day as EvilMonkey. 's Birthday. Just saying ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.193 Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:51 Caller wrote: nice to see somebody trusts that im a townie although im not sure where you get bodyguard from. i've just been really uncertain of Ace's allegience, really. He seems to have led us to lynch 4 townies after one mafiaso lynch... Posted in night7/main_page.193 Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 22:07 Caller wrote: i've already stipulated that all of those clues don't make sense especially when you take into account how there are multiple clues pointing to me so that doesn't make sense. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 00:48 Caller wrote: And what makes sure that you're not a mafiaso? For all we know you could be trying to set somebody up. And I think you're definitely bluffing. Maybe I just come on at certain times is all, or maybe I have something to hide. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:44 Caller wrote: Although we've wasted a lot of time trying to match people to personae I'm not sure it will work. I do think that there is a likelihood of certain people being mafiaso, which I may reveal, assuming I live... still doubting Ace's sincerity in this matter... Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 20:06 Caller wrote: This sounds like an about face from what you were both last game and this game. I don't think any of those clues are appropriate, but something you just said sounds wrong. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:28 Caller wrote:I wanna be in this 60 person game! Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 20:23 Caller wrote:I vote for Empyrean for Mayor because I don't trust anybody else atm and randombum's play this round so far seems really suspicious compared to last round. Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 04:10 Caller wrote:Change my vote to Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:48 Caller wrote:i don't like this bandwagoning, i'll abstain me thinks. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 08:13 Caller wrote:after reading some of the information i suppose i should vote for mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 20:06 Caller wrote:apparently I have to vote Ghar to not die this round... kapsh. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 22:50 Caller wrote:my second vote goes to Ace, I'm not lynching him as much as this is a vote of confidence. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:03 Caller wrote:ABSTAIN with second vote from ace to abstain Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 21:18 Caller wrote:I vote for Eti307 Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 12:12 Caller wrote:i withdraw my vote for Eti307 I abstain for now + Show Spoiler [Camlito] + 56. Camlito Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 20:24 Camlito wrote:Man i so wish i could think of some input, but i will wait for more discussion/clues... Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:37 Camlito wrote:Everyday i wake up to this now... Posted in night7/main_page.086 Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:35 Camlito wrote:Evening seemed to drag on forever Can you make a clue out of that, or is it just because we waited ages hehe ? Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:01 Camlito wrote: That's weird, thats the only person i half linked it to lol. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:43 Camlito wrote:"Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back." Also Fantacist has 3 people in his profile (bisu, nada, savior) and i remember seeing somewhere that bisu means some kind of knife o.o Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:47 Camlito wrote: Now all we need is someone to throw a horse . Posted in night7/main_page.097 Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 19:04 Camlito wrote: I would find it funny if unforgiven is mafia in all 3 of the mafia games. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:15 Camlito wrote: You could probably relate it to surehs0t more. (With the hammer in his profile) Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 18:01 Camlito wrote: I feel it could be useless, i don't have time to check and research but i remember one of the mafias got tossed aside, and that could refer to useLess as he is "useless" Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 16:52 Camlito wrote:I'd like to emphasize this once more: We have the following certain information: EITHER one out of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, OR two out of - Chezinu - useLess - aZnvaLiaNce - fusionsdf are mafia. From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia. At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys! My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- We should really look at these lists more, as there is a much better chance. As i said before, useLess has a high chance of being mafia, as one of the clues i remember referred to a mafia being tossed aside, which indicates he is rather "useless". Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 18:47 Camlito wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:32 Camlito wrote:Good read, plexa. I remember one morning i was bored and went through ALL THE PROFILE PICTURES, and d.arkives' profile picture seemed very suspicious and had an electrical connection, thus i felt strongly, but decided to drop it. Now that i see he was mafia, it makes me realize i need to analyze things more lol. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:40 Camlito wrote: Ok 3rd time i will post this. Unless im missing something or this is a joke, this should be looked at. See where it sais "chezinu or fusionsdf" can be mafia? CHEZINU IS NOW DEAD! I don't know if people missed this, or i am an idiot, or both - but this should be looked at. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:14 Camlito wrote: I qouted it from Scorch from about page 194 or so. I dont know if it's true or some april fools joke, but i brought it up to see what everyone else said. Edit: qrs posted the link, read up. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:14 Camlito wrote:Hmm, to me i think alventenie and imDerek seem to be innocent. Evilmonkey has had some recent clues come up. So to me its either EvilMonkey Or Fusionsdf Useless/aznvaliance Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:54 Camlito wrote:Wasn't L also suspected earlier in this for his smily face? Just need a reminder. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:58 Camlito wrote: Ok thanks, but do you know where it came from? (Like what clue on what day so i can read it). Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:03 Camlito wrote:We should really look for clues on: Alventenie Imderek Evilmonkey and Fusionsdf Useless aznvaliance Right now i suspect evilmonkey if one of the top ones are mafia, and the bottom i'm unsure about. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:43 Camlito wrote: Man this always happens Like with wurm and dr.dragoon and sureshot, hes a suspect with a clue or 2 then theres a sentence along the lines of: have fun lynching townies/blues, and they turn out innocent lol. Posted in night7/main_page.208 Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:02 Camlito wrote: Yeh, lostyourskills was mentioned as one of the first people who could be eddie, because his qoute mentions "Luck becoming a habit" Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:08 Camlito wrote:the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen That was from day 1, i find the sentence suspicious myself. Edit: Could it be nemy? A red haired person staring at herself in a mirror - just a thought. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:16 Camlito wrote:nemY's Public Profile: ~You're in my soul~ ~You're in my mind~ ~But I don't know where you are now King brown snake is known to meet face to face, and fall over at times, which is where the "But i don't know where you are now" comes from. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:23 Camlito wrote: Being suspicious of someone does not make them mafia if they are infact green. Like with nemY, if nemY is a townie and i accused him does that make me mafia? I hope not Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:48 Camlito wrote:Kau is dead aswell ace Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:51 Camlito wrote:Edit: nvm. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:36 Camlito wrote:How long is it until night? Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 17:42 Camlito wrote:Well, some of the medics if not most of them have probably been rolechecked, so it probably comes down to a 1/2 or 1/3 chance of getting a mafia with a vig hit. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 18:23 Camlito wrote:When's night!?!? Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 21:53 Camlito wrote:How long will it roughly be until night? Sorry i don't pay attention to times. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 22:13 Camlito wrote: Considering how much work ive put into finding california mountain snake, i've come up with shit all... all i found besides ninja4ever was infundibilum who has a hat and a spinny thing (which was used to cut off the head of someone), but he seems scandinavian, and california mountain snake bowed. So our best bet is ninja4ever. (How ever obvious that seems). Posted in night7/main_page.212 Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 23:54 Camlito wrote:"Enigma ran his hand through his hair" I don't know if this could be a clue of some sort, but i advise someone to look into it. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:03 Camlito wrote: If you look more in depth, do NOT look at so no feks' profile. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:07 Camlito wrote: Sorry, i was a bit busy earlier on, and recently have started talking to plexa about clues and such. Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 10:22 Camlito wrote:Isn't rpf banned Ace? (on the list of people who never post) Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 10:39 Camlito wrote:....Ace has done alot to help the town, you've been nitpicking everything that goes wrong that he couldn't help since he was mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 10:55 Camlito wrote: That make sense, but he may of talked to people who have been right already (Like plexa) and decided a while ago. I have a good feeling about tonight, and if we see 2 red + Correct vigi hits... Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 12:27 Camlito wrote: Can you just reitterate the whole situation for me Ace? Like what mafia is faking what and such. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:50 Camlito wrote:Oh my god yes! Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:08 Camlito wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, just pointing random fingers to pass the time haha. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 18:36 Camlito wrote: The mandalor list, there is still 10 mafia on the list and 9/10 more are confirmed innocent/dead from the 41. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:57 Camlito wrote:Why does Eti307 pop up? Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 20:45 Camlito wrote: If you look at page 201, look at the description of eddie, he gets a lucky shot/kick off 2 times, but this has seemed to stop. Btw are you on holidays now ? Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 01:29 Camlito wrote:Can someone write down a list of everyone who is confirmed innocent now? Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 01:31 Camlito wrote: Btw what does this actually mean? it seems ace is asking how many are innocent, and new replied 1 as in 1 is mafia.. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius). Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:28 Camlito wrote: Well no one noticed it lol, but fair enough. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:51 Camlito wrote:I think he is Mr.Blonde, but lets wait for the day post. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 12:54 Camlito wrote: Yay, so he was Mr.Blonde? You should do another clue interpretations soon after the next day post when you can. Happy anniversary :D | ||
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56. Camlito Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 12:56 Camlito wrote: Artanis is a protoss hero in the campaign... don't know any other reasons. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 18:55 Camlito wrote:[-QUOTE-]On April 13 2008 18:25 MasterOfChaos wrote: lol I voted for the innocent of the two, but not for the guilty one. I seem to have really good mafia skills Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 23:25 Camlito wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysithea_(moon) http://www.fa.is/deildir/Stjornufraedi/callist.jpg - Picture of the moon [2,2]But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lysithea Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 02:04 Camlito wrote:That clue for eti seems lacking. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:39 Camlito wrote:Wow nice MTF. Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:08 Camlito wrote:As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Did anyone else miss this? Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 19:54 Camlito wrote: Isn't it the other way round? Correct me if im wrong Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:06 Camlito wrote: Oh sorry i thought he was stating what he said. Posted in night7/main_page.225 Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:46 Camlito wrote:your 5th ace? damn im 11th, and i went for SKT . Posted in night7/main_page.229 Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:19 Camlito wrote:Oh crap Mr.Brown is still there, maybe evilmonkey is mr.blonde? and who is mandalor? Mr.White? Oh my god i can't get snake charmer, midnightgladius is the only person i had and it seemed to good to be true. Also check for profiles with photos So No fek amber[light] off the top of my head. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:01 Camlito wrote:Fuck thats what i thought, if midnight gladius isnt snake charmer then it must be mandalor (if mr.blue was alive that is.) Edit: Really nice suspect for eddie, i guess the leadership roll is just for writing, so it comes down to what he does. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:47 Camlito wrote: Decafs' an idiot. (he would back me up with this). Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 19:10 Camlito wrote: Nono, i think he narrowed down the list to likely people. But its actually now: MTF Smurfingchobo unsoundlogic L Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 02:55 Camlito wrote:So much you don't know nemY. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 18:01 Camlito wrote:Don't worry people who don't agree with ace, even if theres a 98% chance hes mafia, we should lynch someone we have assured clues to, like crazie-penguin. Anyway if he doesn't do his job tonight, we can lynch tomorrow if we have to. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 22:18 Camlito wrote:What about the sticky substance? Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 23:47 Camlito wrote:Can someone please tell me what unforgivens' rabbit is doing? Giving the finger or thumbs up? Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:37 Camlito wrote: how the fuck is sureshot enigma again? because so far hes like 4 people lol. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 00:54 Camlito wrote: Yes but L is ment to be enigma, not the wolf, so maybe they both could be. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 02:53 Camlito wrote:LOL... Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:15 Camlito wrote:Ninja, that is a pretty weak defence, as Chuiu has used 1 thing for most people (if not all) so far. Just because you have a qoute, doesn't mean it has to be used. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 04:02 Camlito wrote:At this stage in the game, there isnt much detective work to be done, so losing plexa isn't AS much of a loss, but still a loss nonetheless. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:31 Camlito wrote:What the fuck LOL... Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 19:21 Camlito wrote: lol i remember someone saying your mr.blue because your song is a RATM song about chainsaws. :D Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 16:06 Camlito wrote:I vote for ace, been away for 2 days and saw this started, and saw him as my favourite candidate. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 16:29 Camlito wrote:I Vote for suresh0t Seems the safest bet for now. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:47 Camlito wrote:I change my vote from suresh0t to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:30 Camlito wrote:I vote for ghar Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 10:37 Camlito wrote:First Vote: Fusionsdf, Abstain second for now Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:41 Camlito wrote:I change my first vote from fusionsdf to EvilMonkey and change my second vote from abstain to Siefu. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:14 Camlito wrote: I Vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 23:51 Camlito wrote:I vote for L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [Chezinu] + 83. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:35 Chezinu wrote: We could just confirm our role by typing something like this in the subject bar: #.name:confirmed when pming, that would ease the amount of work, although that still a lot of names to go through. Edit: Actually, to help organize the list, you can type in alphabetizer in google. I just used it to alphabetize the current list. ( I just had to delete # in the front). Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 07:08 Chezinu wrote: I'm a vanilla townie. There I did it. How is that dumb? Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:51 Chezinu wrote:I was reading the day post again and found that it said the word gut twice. So I decided to look up the word just in case it has some other meaning I wasn't aware of. So, when I looked it up I found this definition at dictionary.com: grand unified theory n. Abbr. GUT A theory of elementary forces that unites the weak, strong, electromagnetic, and gravitational interactions into one field theory and views the known interactions as low-energy manifestations of a single unified interaction. Then I realized that grand was used in the same sentence gut was used in. Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" Oh course, this is most likely to be way off, but I decided to post it anyways. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:12 Chezinu wrote:I was just throwing ideas out and just posted just to do it. But the guts could relate to tummy within decafchicken's quote. "how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?" Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:33 Chezinu wrote:I noticed that people have included HeRoS(Pink and Unforgiven_ve as suspects for Mr. Pink. Well, I wanted people to add MoRe_mInErAls to the list since he has this in his profile: PINK?! Marge, I can't wear a pink shirt to work. Everybody wears white shirts. I'm not popular enough to be different! Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:00 Chezinu wrote:I was referring to ShaLLoW[baY]'s list: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=31#602 you are right about looking at clues around them. I'm just looking at all the possibilities. I am stating obvious clues and far-fetched ones, just in case. Hero you really have nothing to worry about as of now, unless more clues come out or some DT investigates you. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 03:04 Chezinu wrote:xDark.Carnivalx's quote: Rat shit bat shit dirty old twat, 69 assholes tie it in a knot. Hurray, lizard shit! FUCK! - George Carlin excerpts from wikipedia: Carlin's themes have been known for causing considerable controversy in the general media. His most usual topic is (in his words) humanity's "bullshit", which might include murder, genocide, war, rape, corruption, religion and other aspects of human civilization Language, from the obscene to the innocuous, has always been a focus of Carlin's work. Euphemisms that seek to distort and lie, and generally the use of pompous, presumptuous and downright silly language are often the target of Carlin's works. Day post clue: Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!". just throwing this out there, I know another far-fetched clue...just passing time before next day comes. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 03:15 Chezinu wrote: Just For Fun qrs has a quote from Alfred North Whitehead from wikipedia: In physics, Whitehead articulated a rival doctrine to Einstein's general relativity. His theory of gravitation is now discredited because its predicted variability of the gravitational constant G disagrees with experimental findings. Edit: Also Eti307 has an Einstein quote Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 12:17 Chezinu wrote: Alventenie stop this, how is ShaLLoW[baY being playful? I'm so confused now! Edit: Lol wrong name Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:13 Chezinu wrote:Knives were mentioned 4 times and sword was mentioned MidnightGladius a pic of a dagger in his profile Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:16 Chezinu wrote:I asked myself what did they killed OneBlueAugust? Well, I have a theory that they killed him because he has blue in his name which may link him to Mr. Blue. Maybe this was done to throw our attention away from HeRoS)Pink. This is just a thought. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:46 Chezinu wrote: Ninja4ever. "Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live for ever." That could work. Plus he is a suspect for being Mr. Blonde Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:05 Chezinu wrote:Blue kills Town - 2 Mafia -1 Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:45 Chezinu wrote:so far lead has been mentioned quite often and now rock. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Caller's quote: Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:51 Chezinu wrote:Reasons I voted for Ninja4ever. Day 1 clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. Day 2 clues: Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Evening seemed to drag on forever A lot of knives/sword references Ninja4ever. quote: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live for ever." Reasons why I think MidnightGladius is Mafia: Day 1 clues: Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Day 2 clues: once again, A lot of knives/sword references ( He has a picture of one in his profile) MidnightGladius quote: "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General Hmm, now I'm thinking that I should have voted for MidnightGladius..What do you think? Edit: tried making it easier to read Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:24 Chezinu wrote: this is their explanation: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=20#391 I think its a stretch, though this is the better reason for lynching him http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=99#1977 Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 13:43 Chezinu wrote: Don't you know what happened last time you went to a party? (oh wait..) Well, we were mayorless. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:20 Chezinu wrote: Are you blind? then that detective would get caught! + Show Spoiler + sorry, I couldn't resist Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:12 Chezinu wrote: You guys should listen to him even if you are suspicious of Ace at the very least PM him something like this: That way he will lynch in-actives again - you know how well that works! Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:27 Chezinu wrote: Because Ace said so. There are no clues to match to him that I know of Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:46 Chezinu wrote:What if the other two detectives were mafia and Mandalor was the only true one? That would be so funny! Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:23 Chezinu wrote:I used to suspect HeRoS)Pink, now I just think he is a plain townie who is bored and is just playing around for fun. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:36 Chezinu wrote: lies! you aren't the town drunkard. If you were you would of voted for Ghar, "Beer for the masses" Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:44 Chezinu wrote:Well, Mr.Pink isn't a hero, he hasn't saved any of his mafia pals yet. Yeah, thats why I'm posting to keep time going until night, which should be very soon. edit:If you don't want to wait..look below + Show Spoiler + Ace announced that the Liquidia police force has found many clues leading to the evidence of mafia in the town. Declaring it the towns job to help find these people he announced that today the suspect to be lynched was Mandalor. Mandalor walked up to the newly setup stage for lynching and was prepared for his death. The switch was thrown, as the life drained out of Mandalor his hat fell to the ground and his skin turned red. The town, unsure of what to think, left shocked at the turn of events. Would they live through this or would the mafia take over? It was too soon to tell, but things didn't look good from the start. Posted in night7/main_page.121 Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:32 Chezinu wrote:that would be a waste of time Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:58 Chezinu wrote: Too bad we don't have a mad hatter who could plant a bomb on all three of you guys. /sigh Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:34 Chezinu wrote:me Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:36 Chezinu wrote:moment - an indefinitely short period of time; instant from dictionary.com Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:37 Chezinu wrote:I wonder what blues those, update first page quickly! Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:47 Chezinu wrote:"my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink" that totally eliminates HeRoS)Pink from being Mr.Pink Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:41 Chezinu wrote:maybe the mafia member will be in the list who is voting for Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:58 Chezinu wrote:wurm has a towel Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:03 Chezinu wrote: I was responding to showtime JeeJee used a towel to fight, if mafia would have used a towel then I would accuse wurm. wurm's sig - I know where my towel is. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:29 Chezinu wrote:Sidewinder can't be Showtime! unless Showtime! was drunk in the beginning. Day 1 Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Day 2 OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. Sidewinder was still on the ground Day 3 someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. the man was still drunk Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. Anyone have any suspects? Currently I only have RtS)Night[Mare, has a picture in profile Southpark character holding beer Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:38 Chezinu wrote: nice one, I can't believe I didn't see that. I'll add him him to my list off suspects My suspects: MidnightGladius Ninja4ever wurm Energies Caller LoStYouRSkills MoRe_mInErAls G.s)Naruto Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 15:53 Chezinu wrote:"Mr. Black defended with the baseball back and the knife drove through it" is that suppose to say baseball bat? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:04 Chezinu wrote:"California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him...his head was sliced clean off by the object" What do you think chopped his head off? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:42 Chezinu wrote:I didn't accuse you, I said I would have if a mafia used a towel you should post the pm Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:57 Chezinu wrote:I think Blindalbino could be California Mountain Snake. Below is excerpt from wikipedia about the character California Mountain Snake in Kill Bill. It does give away some of the plot in Kill Bill. + Show Spoiler + Elle Driver, AKA California Mountain Snake, is another swordswoman. She was trained by Pai Mei, who had also trained Bill and The Bride, but upon disrespecting him, Pai Mei ripped out one of Elle's eyes; in retaliation, she murdered him by poisoning his food. In their climactic fight, The Bride pulls out Elle's other eye and leaves her for dead; though now totally blinded, Elle is the only Deadly Viper who may still be alive at the end of the film. During her dialogue with Budd she reveals her respect for The Bride as "the greatest warrior [she] had ever known", but it is believed that although both were part of the organization Kiddo and Driver shared a great mutual hatred, which erupted into full-blown loathing after the chapel events. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:59 Chezinu wrote: I would say your behavior is very suspicious. I stopped trusting you after you asked what my role was in the game, hehe. Notice that was when I sent you the other pm. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:08 Chezinu wrote: yeah, your right, sorry. I had you mixed up with someone else. I'll pm you who it was Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:50 Chezinu wrote:Unforgiven_ve = Cottonmouth? Below is an excerpt from wikipedia about the character Cottonmouth in Kill Bill. It does discuss some of the plot of movie. + Show Spoiler + Codenamed Cottonmouth, O-Ren Ishii is a Chinese-Japanese-American who, after seeing her parents brutally murdered at the age of 9, becomes a professional assassin who is skilled in sword fighting. In the present day, she is the head of the Tokyo Yakuza and head of her own squad of assassins, the Crazy 88 (see below). Of The Bride's 5 attackers, O-Ren is, chronologically, the first one The Bride murders. The Bride is hinted to have shared an almost sister-like relationship with O-Ren before the events of the chapel. This is reinforced by their sharing of the "Silly rabbit -- Trix are for kids." dialogue, a playful joke on Beatrix's name, and by the fact that O-Ren is the only DVAS member, other than Bill, that The Bride is shaken after killing. he has pic of a rabbit in his profile. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:01 Chezinu wrote: Don't worry, you know I never take this game too seriously, lol! Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:08 Chezinu wrote:plexa, your ruining the drama! Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 14:54 Chezinu wrote:A gravedigger.. It must be HeRoS)Pink! Therefore he can't be mafia since he killed all those ninjas to save the town - you know he did it for the town and not himself. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 06:51 Chezinu wrote: remember only one was found guilty in this list: Ghar - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:32 Chezinu wrote:Oh let me add, I was the first person to vote for ace and I pmed ace about this to prove my innocence. Edit: oh and if useLess or aZnvaLiaNce is mafia then fusion would be mafia. But it is more likely that one of Alventenie,imDerek,TranceStorm, or Evilmonkey is mafia. Edit2:fixed grammar in edit Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:40 Chezinu wrote:lol, we keep repeating ideas.. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:47 Chezinu wrote:If it is useless, then that would be a bad move for fusion.. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 08:18 Chezinu wrote:Mandalor's codename has to be one of the ones listed below. Mr. Blonde Mr. White Black Mamba Snake Charmer The Wolf Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 08:37 Chezinu wrote: If its Alphabetically, should we start with 0cz3c or Ace? This is a very good strategy! Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:44 Chezinu wrote: Because of all the electrical references and he was on two lists that one mafia was found on. reposting my suspect list: MidnightGladius Ninja4ever Energies Caller LoStYouRSkills MoRe_mInErAls G.s)Naruto BlindAlbino Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:48 Chezinu wrote: That would be 7 more innocents - he was in two lists: Chezinu Alventenie imDerek fusionsdf Evilmonkey. useLess aZnvaLiaNce Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 09:49 Chezinu wrote:I say you make these people vote for the same person: MidnightGladius Ninja4ever Energies Caller LoStYouRSkills BlindAlbino Meta I'm curious how many are mafia Reminder: Mandalor's codename has to be one of the ones listed below. Mr. Blonde Mr. White Black Mamba Snake Charmer The Wolf Edit: took lesser suspects off list and added one Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 05:43 Chezinu wrote: If aZnvaLiaNce is mafia then either Chezinu or fusiondf is mafia. Since I know I'm not mafia, then it would be fusiondf. If only One mafia then its one of these - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie If there are Two mafia members then: it's one out of this list: - useLess - aZnvaLiaNce and one out of this list: - fusionsdf - Chezinu - innocent, hehe Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:49 Chezinu wrote:I'm so glad Cheezinu died instead of me Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:03 Chezinu wrote:I vote for SonuvBob. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 16:59 Chezinu wrote:I vote Ninja4ever Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:56 Chezinu wrote:I vote Ace! muhaha Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 12:39 Chezinu wrote:For my second vote, I vote for Ninja4ever Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:46 Chezinu wrote:I vote for Ninja4ever, to keep the trend, lol + Show Spoiler [DTDominion] + 113. DTDominion Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:36 DTDominion wrote:Sign me up if you still can. + Show Spoiler [Dr.Dragoon] + 7. Dr.Dragoon Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I'm baaaack. Hide your children. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:24 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Have you even signed up yet? lol Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:If anything, we should elect mafia from the last game, seeing as the townies have proven themselves to be largely inept. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 10:57 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I hope I'm on your team. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:49 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I agree. Start with me. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:08 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Sucks if those guys miss the post. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Uh oh spaghettios. Anyways, even though we failed with the lynches, hopefully we can get something outta the votes. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:16 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I do not enjoy seeing blue when I read posts. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:14 Dr.Dragoon wrote:What the doodlebooger?!?! Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:34 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I've been playing ssbb. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 05:45 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I wanna go back to the ninja talk. Oh and Plexa, nobody knows that much about dragoons, I sure didn't. I doubt Chuiu thought that far into making a hint to tie me into. Basically you're saying because he has a coat, he's a doctor. Because there is indecipherable yelling, there's a horse (lol?), and dragoons relocate on horseback, therefore I must be Mr. Brown. Until now, I thought dragoons were just metal spider thingies that were controlled by zealots that got owned. Anyways, I am not mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:31 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Yay day Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:49 Dr.Dragoon wrote:WTF, you can't vote for yourselves. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:59 Dr.Dragoon wrote: No ninja edit for you. BTW, I vote randombum, since he sent me a PM which warmed my heart. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 04:24 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I vote for Kuja900 shut up Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:36 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 03:23 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 18 2008 15:42 Dr.Dragoon wrote:I vote for Crazie-Penguin Grr yo + Show Spoiler [Empyrean] + 25. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 19:50 Empyrean wrote:Oh boy. This is exciting :D Town looks like it has a much higher chance to win this game. I'm still working on the game one write-up. It took me 50 minutes to write 1498 words, and it only analyzes up to immediately after the mayoral election so far. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:40 Empyrean wrote:Just going to let you know, no matter what role I end up getting, I'm probably going to be running for mayor :D Posted in night7/main_page.008 Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 19:55 Empyrean wrote: You didn't pass Statistics, did you :/ No fucking way is there an increase in chance of candidates being mafia if they decided before-hand that they would run for mayor no matter what. Especially since deciding to run before-hand is determined by the player and mafia status is chosen randomly by Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:06 Empyrean wrote: Oh, I had no clue what you had intended to mean in your first post. In that case, I think I'll agree with what you had to say. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:10 Empyrean wrote:Ugh! Just when I'm going to go to sleep! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:20 Empyrean wrote:Same. I was looking forward to waking up tomorrow morning with my role :[ Oh well :D Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:33 Empyrean wrote:I just woke up! I'm running for mayor as well. I have previous mafia experience, and have a good idea of how mafia like to conduct things. Furthermore, I'll take everyone's opinion into consideration, as well as analyze everything myself. The most important reason, and this is kind of risky saying it, but I am a detective. If I'm elected mayor, I'll be guaranteed to be safe from mafia attacks so I can publish my detective results daily, giving us a large boost. If you want, I can ask some easy questions confirming people's roles so they can back me up. The possibility of a Detective Mayor is something in the town's favor. Also, if you don't vote for me now, mafia will target me first night and the town'll be down a detective without me even asking anything :[ Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:48 Empyrean wrote:I just got back from school, and I'm noticing people arguing against me. Here is why my announcement wasn't a stupid move on my part: 1. Even if I were mafia, a mafia mayor would still be good for the town. Think about it. Mayors have to act in town interest. If he doesn't, there is mass suspicion against him, and he can be lynched. It's in the town's best interest to always enact double-lynches. If, for some reason, the mayor declines, he's pretty much voted dead the next day. 2. Yes, I am forcing the town's hand. I'm fine with having someone confirm me as a detective, or for having people give me questions to confirm. If I am not mayor or pardoner, I'll be a likely target for the mafia the first night. They're smart enough to put multiple hits on people to ensure bodyguard protection is wasted. If mafia don't target me first night, I'll be able to reveal some more clues until they're forced to kill me or otherwise be revealed. [-b-]3. A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town. Why? At the end of the game, it's likely that at least one bodyguard will still be alive. When the playing field has diminished so greatly, I'll be able to ask "What is [player]'s role" which leads to an immediate mafia death. That's why you should vote for me. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:49 Empyrean wrote: That could be just what the mafia want us to think. If I have a bodyguard protection, the first thing I'm going to ask is whether or not there were any mafia candidates. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:56 Empyrean wrote: 1. I need guaranteed protection for my role to be of most use to the town. 2. Even if I WERE a mafia mayor/pardoner, anything I do against public will will cast suspicion on me anyway. So why not have an experienced player who has an insurmountably important role be an elected officer? Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:59 Empyrean wrote:One further thing: You may view my revealing of my detective role to be a sort of ultimatum to get me elected to something. The truth is - it is. You can't risk my premature death to the mafia. If I hadn't ran, I would have gathered clues for a few days and then revealed them. If I had revealed each clue individually and I weren't guaranteed protection, I would be dead the next night. And I KNOW that after last game, I'll be on the mafia hit list - I am not a mafia member, and they'll know to take out the best players first. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:04 Empyrean wrote: 1. DT is the dark templar role, which can kill anyone. 2. Enabling double lynches allows for more mafia deaths - lynches are the only way we can kill mafia. 3. I meant to say paramedic. If I'm not mayor/pardoner and a paramedic protects me, the mafia are smart enough to post two hits on me to ensure my death. Posted in night7/main_page.034 Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:07 Empyrean wrote: Yes, my mistake. I thought we had Dark Templar. We actually have Suicide Bombers. They do the same thing. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: No. I thought DT stood for Dark Templar. We don't have those in this game. They're Suicide Bombers. So I meant to say Suicide Bombers. But seriously, read my latest argument post for my candidacy. It spells out exactly why I need to be elected. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:11 Empyrean wrote: It ensures that the mayor is safe from Suicide Bombers if all the bodyguards die - the paramedics will still probably protect the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:11 Empyrean wrote: Yes, my mistake, I hadn't realized DT meant detective instead of the suicide bomber role. But it's in the town's best interest to vote me. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:14 Empyrean wrote:First, here is the PM I sent to people to try and get them to vote for me. It's basically redirecting them to read my posts. But just in case anyone complains :/ + Show Spoiler + Please reconsider your non-vote for me as a mafia candidate. There are a few posts in: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=33&topic_id=67925 The above is a must-read. It clearly delineates my platform and decisions. Please reconsider your vote. Also: If I'm mayor, keep in mind that town can always vote to lynch mayor. I will always declare double lynch when the town wants it. If, after all my double lynches are done and my role is therefore pretty much useless, if you still have doubts of my detective role, you can lynch me. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:16 Empyrean wrote: 1. I mean after the bodyguards are dead, even if paramedics protect the mayor/pardoner, the suicide bomber can still kill them. 2. I'm acting in the best interest of the town. My (in effect) ultimatum was to force the town to act in the best interest of itself. You can always lynch me if you have doubts. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:17 Empyrean wrote: False. If the pardoner pardons someone out of the blue, it'll invite serious suspicion. If I'm mayor, it'll guarantee that the people he pardons are legitimate townies (although I won't really want to waste a detection on confirming that). Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:18 Empyrean wrote: You're right. I just reread the first post; a suicide bomber wouldn't be a good choice at all for a mayor O_o. I thought suicide bomber was in a "third party" without allegiances. Kind of like in Tracil's game. Haha. That's probably what I get for reading 30+ pages at a time. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:20 Empyrean wrote: As a potential mayor, it's my job to have the town's best interest in mind. The town's best interest would be to vote me. However, I wouldn't get nearly the amount of votes I would get if I hadn't revealed my role. I know that may sound harsh and counter-intuitive, but just trust me here. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:21 Empyrean wrote:No, the pardoner should use the role when he has enough conviction to believe that the town is falsely lynching. If there were a mafia pardoner who decides to pardon a mafia member without a "good" reason, the town will suspect him anyway, leading to the revelation of another mafia. Besides, I can always confirm someone's role. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:22 Empyrean wrote:Also: (only not editing because this thread has lots of viewers, so they don't miss this) Keep in mind, though, that I can only do it twice a game. My powers are basically limited to determining whether or not a specific clue points to a specific person. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:23 Empyrean wrote: If the pardoner randomly pardons ANYONE, it would invite suspicion. Then more analysis can be made through the clues. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:50 Empyrean wrote: 1. You think I haven't read the whole thread? Yes, I'm well aware of Ace and Ghar's mayoral strategies, as well as the bodyguard plan. 2. You cannot assign each action on your arbitrary scale. A cost-benefit analysis of this is essentially worthless. 3. Losing a detective is not a huge loss? Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:52 Empyrean wrote: Yes, I agree. We should save the "what is this person's role" investigations until the endgame. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:53 Empyrean wrote: Such cleverly disguised misdirection against me won't work. Don't use such a leading tone; you incite suspicion against yourself. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:58 Empyrean wrote:1. Yes. I am acting very selfishly. It still benefits the town to guarantee that I'm a protected position. 2. I support your plan. I probably should have made that more clear. Think about it from a mafia standpoint: If I truly were mafia roleclaiming to be detective, once the election is over and under your plan, the detectives reveal their clues (not publically, of course), it'll be obvious that I wasn't a detective. So why would the mafia risk such a scenario? Quick edit. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:22 Empyrean wrote:Well, I only want to be mayor to ensure that we get a good townie role as mayor. I'm essentially running off of nothing except my word. However, assuming all the other candidates are townies, I don't know if they have an other abilities either. I'm sure some of them do and just aren't as brash as I am, for better or for worse. I'm basically trying to assure the town of a detective mayor, and by revealing that I am a detective, pretty much guaranteed we get a detective mayor. Besides, during the first night, another detectives can verify my role (although it would be very easy for a mafia member to pose a detective while framing me). It's a leap of faith thing. But since no better "roles" came up for the mayoral election, I decided to reveal mine and ensure a good mayoral candidate. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:24 Empyrean wrote:And also: my acting selfishly helps the town since I am a member of the town. I'll explain everything fully. Just as me some questions. (and in game now, but feel free to ask me the questions!) Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:30 Empyrean wrote: My problem with your candidacy is that the same thing could apply. You could be mafia as well, and all we have is your word. I'm basically going to be adopting a similar plan, so why not vote for the candidate who actually has a role? (Of course, you may as well.) Also, I don't agree with the bodyguard plan qrs posted wholly - if the mayor were mafia, he could have a mafia member "reveal" that he was a bodyguard, and then the mafia would know the player's jobs/plan/etc., as well as waste a significant amount of paramedic protection. That's why I think that we should investigate any person who claims bodyguard first. But seriously. If I'm elected, just get other detectives to check my role. The mafia will certainly fake some detectives, but I have ways around that which I can't reveal at the moment because it would compromise the method. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:31 Empyrean wrote: The role can be verified after the election. What difference would it make? I'm 100% a detective, and by issuing the "ultimatum", I'm guaranteeing that we get a townie detective mayor. It's selfish, but also in the best interests of the town. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:35 Empyrean wrote:The problem is, without detective verification, it will be much too easy for the mafia to fake that. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:49 Empyrean wrote:A selfish townie mayor is good for the town - he'll do everything he can to ensure town victory. Furthermore, as I was going to be unavailable after my initial post, to only way I could get myself elected was to reveal my role. It's the only way I know of that we would have been guaranteed a townie mayor. While Ace and araav are great choices, I can't know their allegiance. By forcing people to vote for me or face the consequences of losing a detective, I am ensuring a townie mayor. My first post was made, then hours passed, then my second post was made, then hours passed, and then I started to get active in this thread. In case anyone has doubts, please investigate me or ask me to perform some detective duties. To me, the ends justify the means. That's the sole reason I revealed my role. EDIT: time confusion. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:51 Empyrean wrote: Fine. One of my plans to reveal mafia was to ask for a "detective confirmation", in which I would ask, publically all detectives to investigate a bodyguard and PM me the results. I wouldn't reveal that it was a bodyguard. To all those mafia who thought that they could gain my trust, I could immediately know the identity of any mafia who reported to me, but didn't report that the person was a bodyguard. Now, of course, that plan's worthless. I was going to keep my plans secret until I was elected, but it's becoming apparent that I have to give some of them away. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:01 Empyrean wrote: Ah, good find; I probably just remembered that I would be unable to play for a long period of time - I had to leave for school, so I was away for about seven hours. In either case, my argument is the same. I just have a bad memory. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:03 Empyrean wrote: Although it pretty much means that he's a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:04 Empyrean wrote:Especially since once the real bodyguards complain that they didn't get a PM, other mafia can as well. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:07 Empyrean wrote:To expand upon Dark.Carnival's post, I made some post before I went to sleep, then after woke up, I revealed my detective and ran for mayor. Either way, it would be hours (seven/eight+) before I could make a response, so I had to ensure my candidacy got noticed. Check timestamps to confirm my activity. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:08 Empyrean wrote: Good point, the only way for the mafia to get around it is to have some mafia roleplay bodyguards and others roleplay detectives. EDIT: Going to be gone for about an hour. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:12 Empyrean wrote: Read the above post. Every single bodyguard does get a PM from the mayor. And I'm really going to be gone. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:18 Empyrean wrote:The problem is, if I'm not elected anything, the town'll lose a detective. Is that a risk people are willing to take? I'm only revealing my role because it's the only 100% guaranteed method I have of ensuring a townie mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:57 Empyrean wrote:Well even if they're dead, if town wins, they do too. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:19 Empyrean wrote: Hell, if I don't get to be the mayor/pardoner, I'll be the sacrifice. At least it'll benefit the town since I'll die if I don't the the positions anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:35 Empyrean wrote: Because this is the right thread in which to vote! Posted in night7/main_page.046 Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:17 Empyrean wrote: I PM'd you an additional idea as well. I have numerous others. I'm going to sleep now, and I'll respond in about seven hours. I'm basically trying to prove that I'm not a completely tardass. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 19:54 Empyrean wrote: Actually, I announced my campaign before the game started as well. I stated that I would be running for mayor no matter what. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:45 Empyrean wrote: Easy to solve. Get a (or some) detectives to investigate me, and report their findings directly to Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 04:58 Empyrean wrote: First they investigate Ace, and one detective will probably publicly announce Ace's innocence. Then they'll just PM Ace. Or they can immediately PM Ace and assume he's town, while other detectives confirm his role. If he's town, they'll be silent. If he's mafia, they'll sound the alarms. And finally, if I do die this night, I'd like to just post one thing after my death. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:00 Empyrean wrote:nemY: I have a feeling you're mafia, but obviously I can't really accuse you of anything at the moment. You know why? Because I started the same thing you're trying to do last game. After L2W failed in his protection of alventenie, I started the whole "he revealed his role, but he's not actually paramedic!" bandwagon that got him lynched. So at the moment, shut up and watch the game unfold. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:08 Empyrean wrote: Yeah sorry L2W I still heart you :D And when'll we know the target of the mayor's lynch? >:O Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:16 Empyrean wrote:You mean *when you get Mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:53 Empyrean wrote:Confession. Well it looks like I'm obviously not going to get an elected position. I'm not a detective. I'm plain townie. You can get a detective or someone to check it out :/ Now. The only reason I posted that I was detective was to try and get the mayoral/pardoner spot, since the only way I will ever be sure (remember, I can't actually check people's roles) that we have a townie-aligned mayor/pardoner is if I were to be in office. So yes, I suppose it was a selfish move, but you'll have to believe me when I say that it was the best thing I could personally have done for the town, since I am a definite townie. I couldn't wait for the off-chance that someone else take the mayoral position and end up being a mafioso. So you'll understand why I tried to force the town's hand. And since I've revealed my true role, it's up to the mafia to decide if they want to waste their Suicide Bomber(s?) on a plain townie who's not likely to receive paramedic protection. Furthermore, it solves the problem of the saboteur issue. Why sabotage someone's "abilities" when they actually have none? All town detectives are at the moment unknown, and Ace's plan should proceed without impediment. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:55 Empyrean wrote:Oh: one more thing since I don't want to edit: Detectives should investigate Ace's role. If he is townie, then they will silently PM their findings to him. If Ace is mafia, then they will blow Ace's cover. After the detective's death (with a likely suicide bomber use?), we'll know for sure, then we can lynch a potential-mafia Ace later. But I'm hoping Ace is townie. Also, when detectives check anyone else's role, if they could report it to Ace so that they don't reveal their cover. Ace will publicly state the detectives' findings. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:58 Empyrean wrote: With the detectives. Once they find out I'm plain townie, they'll report it to Ace who will make that information known. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:09 Empyrean wrote: Heh. Think about it for a second - why would I make such a move to announce that I am detective so early on in the game? My only reason for doing so was to ensure a townie mayor. I've also confused some mafia, hopefully. If they still think I'm detective, they run the risk of wasting both their sabotage or their suicide bomber. If they think I'm vanilla townie, then, well, nothing special happens. All our detectives'll still be secret and safe. Anyway, if you guys really want to see my role, you should just wait for Ace to announce the detectives' results. | ||
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25. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:10 Empyrean wrote:Oh: I only revealed my real role because nemY and friends got the whole "LET'S LYNCH EMPYREAN LOLOLO" bandwagon going. The only real point of vanilla townies is to vote to lynch mafias and try and protect the real town special roles so they can win the game. Basically, my abandonment of my initial plan (to stir up mafia confusion - should we use a suicide bomber/saboteur?) was because you guys are trying to start the whole lynching bandwagon. [-b-]Just wait for Ace to confirm (via detective) that I'm vanilla town. Posted in night7/main_page.061 Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:50 Empyrean wrote:IF I were mayor, I would still be able to play the part of detective - there would've been four detectives sending me their information, so I could play off some of that as my own. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:11 Empyrean wrote: "But Empyrean's a mafia member! Let's lynch him!!" ... ...I'm very interested to see Ace's plans. He assured me he pretty much had lots of tricks up his sleeves. And by tricks I mean plans to lolown the mafia through logic and conservative play! EDIT: I'm satisfied with the results of the mayoral election. All I've managed to do is buy some time for more useful town members (if Mafia decides to lynch me, of course). Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 20:37 Empyrean wrote:Tough luck on the first lynch...Mad Hatter is one of the non-voting ways we can get rid of mafia, but I don't blame Ace at all. Looks like none of the people the clues pointed to were inactive or lurking. Have all detectives checked Ace yet? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:34 Empyrean wrote: Thanks for noticing :/ Honestly, no townie would care if a plan was "cheap". It's like you being MM rushed in a PvT, having Reaver tech, but deciding against it because Reavers are "cheap". Additionally, the Mr. Pink clue and the fact that heros)pink doesn't like the plan because it's too "cheap" as well gives some suspicion to him. Yes. That's actually not too far from what we did last game. It's too obvious the clue points at him. Why would he incite more town anger? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!! I think the best course of action for next night is to have a detective PM Chuiu, asking if the Mr. Pink clue points at Heros)Pink. Hopefully, since no DTs have spoken up against Ace, we know that Ace is mayor. All of them should have PM'd Ace by now, so Ace knows all the DTs. He should assign each detective a certain "investigation" to ask Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:56 Empyrean wrote:One DT will probably be assigned to CTStalker as well. Besides, if you want to prove your innocence to the town, you should have no reservations against using a DT to clear your name. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:35 Empyrean wrote:I always check the thread when I wake up, after get home from school, and before I go to sleep. It's not that bad; at most, I have to read eight or so pages. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:14 Empyrean wrote:I think a more useful clue to go off of is the Mr. Pink/etc. clues, as they're the most prominent. As last game shows, very obvious clues can lead to very obvious lynchings that we miss because of over-analyzing the clues. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:32 Empyrean wrote:I bet I'm dead XD Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:37 Empyrean wrote:What the fuck. EDIT: Mad Hatters were basically the only other way besides lynches we could kill more than one (two with double lynches) mafia a night - we have one Jack left. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:18 Empyrean wrote:Why don't we all wait for Ace's response before doing anything hasty? He should probably direct voting - remember, detectives have confirmed through their silence that Ace is townie. Ace also has access to paramedic protections and detective information, so before voting for anyone too soon, see what Ace has to say. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:50 Empyrean wrote: Yeah, I thought buckshot was what was placed into shotguns? Like small pieces of lead? Kind of like your quote, in which small rocks and lead are referenced :/ Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:51 Empyrean wrote:Hell, the wikipedia article for "Buckshot" redirects to "Lead shot". "Lead shot is a collective term for small balls of lead. It is used primarily as projectiles in shotguns, but is also used for a variety of other purposes. It was traditionally made using a shot tower." Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:04 Empyrean wrote:No one else thinks the buckshot/eating lead/etc. clues link to Caller's signature of "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead"? Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:33 Empyrean wrote:My thoughts: I vote we lynch Ghar today, then have Ace coordinate the detectives - the detectives will each investigate to see if a clue matches up with a likely mafioso, so by tomorrow, we'll already have a list of people to lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:25 Empyrean wrote:I'm pretty sure Chuiu selected his mafia randomly. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 13:58 Empyrean wrote:BE ACTIVE ACE :[ Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 22:22 Empyrean wrote: Heh. In the first game, I feigned ignorance about how the mafia operated. If you're mafia, don't think that this trick'll save you :O Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:23 Empyrean wrote:Oh: one thing: vigilantes leave clues behind as well. So if detectives check out and a clue matches a player, it could be that they're vigilantes. Unless they PM Ace their roles. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:55 Empyrean wrote:You guys, we still don't have absolute proof that Mandalor's mafia! ... Yeah I voted for Mandalor. Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:19 Empyrean wrote: Of course their votes are counted. Remember last game when other mafia members tried unsuccessfully to lynch Tracil? (Yeah, I wasn't part of that :D) Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:31 Empyrean wrote: Because, yes, Chuiu has clues to point to each and every member of the mafia in each post </sarcasm>. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:51 Empyrean wrote:Heh. Mandalor wasn't clever enough to fool Ace's plan :D Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 12:08 Empyrean wrote: Hmm, seems like a weak link at best, but it does look plausible. !! Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 19:51 Empyrean wrote:Hooray :D I don't doubt Ace that much anymore, but let's keep in mind he could :still: "potentially" be a mafia member who lynched an inactive mafia to gain our trust. The chances of that are pretty slim, though. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:01 Empyrean wrote:Actually, it would probably make more sense to do the following: Before I start, keep in mind that even if someone is mafia, a clue that seems to point at them may point at someone else (like last game, the bowing clue - people thought it pointed to me but it didn't. Any detective investigating that would have found that the clue didn't relate to me. People would probably have some sort of cognitive bias and think that I wasn't mafia). Have each of the top suspects target someone else random completely. It's similar to Ace's plan, but each of the four detectives can ask "how many mafia voted for ____"? and after they find that out, we'll surely know if they're townie or not. Easy way for detectives to use role-check after they've exhausted the initial two. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:05 Empyrean wrote:What I mean is for each suspect and only that one suspect target someone random so they'll only have that suspect's vote. They can either comply and be found innocent or "lol im outa town!" and be thought guilty. Then we can cross-check some earlier clues/lists/etc. to make more decisions from there. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:39 Empyrean wrote:Lol. I just found out that a retarded saboteur disabled me. Basically he disabled himself - instead of disabling someone useful, he disabled a green XD What a loser. If I'm mafia again next game, I'll be sure not to suck as much as current mafia does! Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:41 Empyrean wrote:By disabled himself I basically meant wasted his ability. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:56 Empyrean wrote:Oh, I think I know why the mafia disabled me: it's sort of like a mini-detective work of their own. They'll see if Ace's detective revelations will decrease at all in the next round. If they do, then they'll "know" I'm detective. Of course, once they won't, they'll know that they wasted a sabotage :/ I suppose they didn't have any other targets though, although I would personally have disabled randombum. Posted in night7/main_page.142 Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:05 Empyrean wrote: Let's just lynch this guy. He's about as useful as his posts. Posted in night7/main_page.142 Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 19:57 Empyrean wrote:Quick! Call an actuary! Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 10:35 Empyrean wrote:Wait, don't they use focused sound waves to crush up the kidney stone into itty bitty pieces so you can pee them out later? Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:35 Empyrean wrote:REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:50 Empyrean wrote: LOL. And on a side note, all those blues make it look like maybe someone is telling the mafia who to target? Maybe randombum or even Ace. Has anyone checked them out? The chances are slim that they're mafia, but hey, the chance is still there. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 20:34 Empyrean wrote:Let's just wait for Ace's results, though I'd appreciate it if he'd be a little more open with what he knows. It'd make it a lot less boring for the town if he'd share detective results/his suspicions/etc., if only to see how comically the mafia react. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 11:47 Empyrean wrote:wut? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 19:56 Empyrean wrote:I honestly don't think it's that big of a deal. If some blues got caught in a chat room because a mafia member (well if he hacked, then it's another story) was clever enough to figure it out, then isn't that just your fault? And yeah, code names would have been better. How could you not have used codenames :O...if I were part of some chatroom, I wouldn't assume everyone in it was town, so I'd use a codename. Anyway, araav has already explained himself. So I don't think there's any further need to press the issue. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 20:04 Empyrean wrote:Bolded part in the last post was a sort of helpful tip for all us townies. Posted in night7/main_page.170 Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 05:57 Empyrean wrote: Well, we'd also know whether or not araav were mafia or town. Apparently, according to Showtime (what's his deal, anyway), araav's figured out some way to break into some "secret IRC channel" or something. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 13:13 Empyrean wrote:Ugh. Why can't you work in with my time zone >: ( Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:42 Empyrean wrote:So...anyone else waiting foe Ace's reply? :/ Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:35 Empyrean wrote:There's no way we can really say what Chuiu's "style" is. The best way to go about this is to let Ace and the DTs figure it out, although my faith in them was a little bit shaken after the last night's lynching. And wtf, one DT didn't use his powers? What a nublet. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 14:27 Empyrean wrote:Let's take a look at some clues which people thought pointed at me but actually didn't: "As if ceremoniously, one of the mafia bowed with an arm extended" "Before the man could finish him off he looked up at him and said "you will have to answer for this to god"" Both of them were "obvious". Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 09:01 Empyrean wrote:Anyone else notice the lack of replies by Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 11:14 Empyrean wrote: We? Because voting for the candidates Ace wanted us to netted us a green and a blue death? Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 12:13 Empyrean wrote:Well regardless, without Ace, we're basically hopeless :/ Let's just lynch more inactives. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 04:48 Empyrean wrote: All you've done in this game is made asinine comments that have no bearing at all on the game. Anyway, I'd just like to say that I have some reservations about randombum. Obviously, the clues about the bum can relate to either him or bumatlarge, but randombum has been really silent all game. Also, we've had a large proportion of blue deaths - how can that be explained except the clues reporting into randombum who is a mafia? I'm going to be really pissed if I didn't get Pardoner because people joined the HEY GUYS LET'S VOTE FOR RANDOMBUM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT EMPYREAN THERE! bandwagon. The same thing could be said about Ace, although there aren't many clues that relate to him. But still, after he gained our trust the first night, he decided to lead us to lynch some townies. It's entirely possible that he only got us to kill one blue so as not to arouse too much suspicion on us. Just possibilities, though. Very good chance that neither of them are mafia (although if you'd have to ask, I'd suspect Ace more than randombum). Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 19:28 Empyrean wrote:Hey guys I'm mafia. April fools. No, this wasn't a cleverly disguised bump. No wait, it was. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 05:44 Empyrean wrote:I don't think this is game affecting: It's very possible that the detective deaths were a result of mostly chance. The mafia had to have known that I was a detective, or at least being protected, since they probably tried to kill me on previous nights. That being said, I wonder if I'm allowed to post my number one suspect? I doubt it, though, so I won't. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 12:03 Empyrean wrote:I vote Ace as well. He'd do a better job than I would. I don't need the mayoral position anyway; just the pardoner. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:19 Empyrean wrote:When will votes end? Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:11 Empyrean wrote:Not that it matters. Ace is guaranteed mayor/randombum is guaranteed pardoner. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:02 Empyrean wrote: I also announced my candidacy before I got my role ;D Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:47 Empyrean wrote: Nothing's definite, but at the moment, I'm leaning towards Ghar. Waiting for his defense, though. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 13:38 Empyrean wrote:I'm confirming that I'm abstaining. I wait on Ace's action. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:49 Empyrean wrote:I vote for Mandalor! Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 05:28 Empyrean wrote:I vote for bumatlarge, and I vote for wurm. Although I honestly think wurm is innocent. + Show Spoiler [Energies] + 31. Energies Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 19:59 Energies wrote:Obligatory post since some of you guys are psychotic I don't want to be labeled a lurker and get lynched because I have nothing to say to contribute. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:34 Energies wrote:Edit: I guess joking in this thread won't be very constructive. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:41 Energies wrote:Great, I guess my editing skills aren't quite fast enough. This should be fun. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:54 Energies wrote: We'll both go down as martyrs mate, it'll be good. This is probably the one point in the game I don't like, I suck at interpreting clues, I have my suspicious as to someones identity right now, but I have no idea whether my logic is sound, and worried about posting it in case I am right and get lynched, I don't believe in sacrifice for the greater good. Also something that may sound like indisputable evidence to you might not mean anything to me. Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:17 Energies wrote:I'm curious to know, if Mafia vote in the vote thread, are their votes counted, or how does that aspect work? Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:23 Energies wrote:It doesn't say if their vote is counted though. Regardless, that sucks they get even more ways to kill, but I guess thats why we have a pardoner. Is anyone monitoring the votes by the way? I have only been enlightened to this fact so I haven't been paying too much attention to any abstain or obscure votes. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:27 Energies wrote:I thought it really didn't matter who we lynched yesterday, as it was all in progress to finding out who the Mafia are tonight, via detective checks? Regardless, I think we should get all 4 vigilantes and the jack to lynch the top 5 suspects tonight and hope to get 2-3/5. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:42 Energies wrote:Thats the problem with clues, everyone has their own interpretation. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:34 Energies wrote:Need to figure out who Mandalor was, that way we can analyse Chuiu's clue styles. Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen rpf make any posts or even vote? I'm wonder whether he is completely inactive or just keeping cover, if he is just inactive, I'm wondering why he hasn't been replaced. Otherwise I'm sure there are a lot of people completely inactive, he is just one name that stands out for me. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 15:13 Energies wrote: In that case, I see him as a very strong candidate for Mafia, since I don't think I have seen a single post by him in this thread. Any vigilantes feel like blind killing tonight? I'll be honest, I just don't like the guy. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 21:08 Energies wrote:This game really stagnated. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 16:50 Energies wrote:What the hell, how did I get back on the suspect list. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 20:08 Energies wrote:I vote for araav Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 18:13 Energies wrote:I Vote Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 10:04 Energies wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 15:01 Energies wrote:I vote Ghar - for my first vote I Abstain - My second vote Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 11:52 Energies wrote:I vote for d.arkive + Show Spoiler [Eti307] + 3. Eti307 Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 00:59 Eti307 wrote:holy shit with that many people this will be so hard to keep up hope I have a role again, mafia was really fun Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 16:14 Eti307 wrote:ooooooooook I have a lot to read WTF around 30-40pages to read by tomorrow, awesome. Inc's already dead I see Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 03:57 Eti307 wrote:Okay I was Mafia last game and here is the way I see we should do things: Don't throw wild accusations based on nothing else but posts made in this thread. Keep in mind that clues are there to help us catch the mafia and we should base our lynch on those and not on internal struggles. Town did that last game and it really didn't help them. I think it's pretty much impossible to accuse anyone without the first set of clues. So yeah we will lose a couple tonight but at the same time we will gain some knowledge about the mafias. Never forget that, if you accuse someone try to link him to a clue, it's the best way we have to catch them. Lastly I didn't read all of the 88pages so far (wtf, overkill) and I don't think I will, but I will start keeping up with this thread as soon as day#2 arrive and we have the first set of clues. edit: second set of clues, obviously we have the first ones from the initial post Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 03:59 Eti307 wrote:yeah I know, editted that in but you know what I meant Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 04:03 Eti307 wrote:hehe alright, I was busy writing part2 of our wrap up of the first game. Guess I'll spent the rest of the afternoon reading what was said Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 Eti307 wrote:fuck. Okay I'm going to sleep for now but I'll post my clue analysis tomorrow Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:54 Eti307 wrote: No some might have been protected by meds and some others could've been veterans. So they need more than one hit to get killed Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:45 Eti307 wrote:He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Suspects: - Dr.Dragoon: swooped down from above = move of a dragoon in RPGs - Lysithea :quote is "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.", could describe Mr.Blonde motion - ShadowDrgn: Lights was out, Mr.Blonde was hiding in the shadows, when he was revealed he was on the ceiling and swooped down on Mynock, like a Dragon (Drgn = Dragon) - HotZhot: Sig is I only smile in the dark and the lights were out Biggest suspect: ShadowDrgn Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Not clearly deciphering the yells.. another language? Smiley.. some kind of joker? Mr.Brown just behind him.. Mr Brown is some kind of a follower? Suspect: - Clazziquai: his quote: me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^. So it could be the yells Mynock couldn't decipher. Also has a smilie in his sig - Bumatlarge: His profile picture shows the little guy following professor Layton. - L: smilie sig Biggest suspect: Clazziquai although it's a stretch . The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. Suspects: - Every australian - Energies: He is autralian and his name might refer to the electronics - LoStYouRSkiLLS: He's Australian and they lost any means of communication. Biggest suspect: None, not enough to really accuse someone Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. ... Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off ... Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. NeaX didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly. Suspects: - Ninja4ever: Knives, sword etc.. - DamageControl: Neax didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly... controlling the damage? - MidnightGladius: Name refer to a sword Biggest suspect: None, again not enough evidence Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. ...Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. Suspects: - LTT: his quote "We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure." might refer to the Mr. Pink death is a normal thing comment - Anyone with the smilie in his mood could refer to Sidewinder (sickly fellow). Also someone using often - BlindAlbino: sickly looking fellow or that Yogurt hit Black Mamba in the face with much ease... because he's blind? Well that's it for now, surely I overlooked some of them. I didn't look at the posts nor the profile, only the name and sigs So far my prime suspect is ShadowDrgn Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 02:46 Eti307 wrote:ohhh nice clue with the head!! Ghar is australian as well so the snakes could lead to him as well Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:08 Eti307 wrote:As for now I will surely vote for Ghar, but I am still highly suspicious of ShadowDrgn.. and I seem to be the only one Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:10 Eti307 wrote:Also chuiu I suggest starting a new thread for the next cycle... It'll be easier to track what happened that way Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:17 Eti307 wrote: obviously the previous one gets closed. Closed thread can still be viewed you know Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 22:44 Eti307 wrote: dunno if that question is legit or not but whatever In the first game, Mafia sent one list to Chuiu that they all agreed upon. 2 or 3 were discussing and bringing up a list, then we submitted it to the rest of the group. If someone didn't reply on time we were sending it without his approval Don't know if they do the same this time around Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:32 Eti307 wrote:French_Toast could be linked to the They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring clue Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:31 Eti307 wrote: If you read my clue analysis, ShadowDrgn was my prime suspect and surprise! he's in this list as well :O Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:50 Eti307 wrote:holy fuck that's blows like half of my suspicions, sorry shadow :/ Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 09:54 Eti307 wrote:Well I just saw I was being suspected. I'll be honest, I missed several days due to exams and I had like 100 pages to catch up. So I stopped paying attention I guess it's not worth much... but I am not Mafia You'll be wasting a lynch/vigi if you get me. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 21:30 Eti307 wrote:I vote Empyrean I know how he plays, he's a good candidate Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 15:41 Eti307 wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:50 Eti307 wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 04:59 Eti307 wrote:I vote for Ghar second vote for bumatlarge Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 05:27 Eti307 wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 12:08 Eti307 wrote:I vote for L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [Evilmonkey.] + 120. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 18:11 Evilmonkey. wrote:oh good lord it looks like I'm late. If there is anymore room at all please sign me up. thanks Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:27 Evilmonkey. wrote:I was tickled when I saw that I had two pms, one being from Randombum. If he took the time to present his case to everyone, then he has the time to be a good mayor. He looks to have my vote. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:14 Evilmonkey. wrote:As stated before, I am still voting for Randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 15:17 Evilmonkey. wrote:I vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 15:16 Evilmonkey. wrote:Alright, I vote Ace. As for my second vote, I abstain. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 18:20 Evilmonkey. wrote:I vote for araav. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 01:08 Evilmonkey. wrote:araav has been confirmed innocent it seems. I hereby choose to abstain. + Show Spoiler [Falcynn] + 23. Falcynn Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:39 Falcynn wrote:Wow...this game's gonna be epic! Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 20:34 Falcynn wrote:Oh god...I just realized how much of a pain deciphering clues is gonna be now. With over 130 people playing it's going to be hard to make up clues that don't point to like 5 or more people without making them really obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:19 Falcynn wrote: That's one of the things that I really really liked about Tracil's version. It seems like it'd be so much easier to find specific posts if the days and nights were broken up into different threads rather than having to sort through 200+ pages of posts. In a way the days and nights were broken up by having the day/night posts linked on the first page, but still...having that many pages seems like a pretty daunting task when looking for specific posts. Mynock has a pretty good point, however if someone's unwilling to lurk through a couple of threads, it seems doubtful that he'd be that much more willing to look through one huge ass thread. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:56 Falcynn wrote: That actually seems like a really good idea. It would also benefit town because it'd make it a lot easier to check up on somebody's voting record. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 00:17 Falcynn wrote:Just make sure you're active >.> Edit: and reading all of the new posts...how the hell are you guys accusing people of being mafia now? With the people who have already declared their candidacy, yes there's a good chance all of them will be chosen as mafia, but there's just as good a chance that all will be townies...It's all luck at this point, no matter how shady someone might be acting. Obviously the mafia would like one of their own as mayor, but if you take the fact that mafia still kicked our ass last game and the fact that even Chuiu himself (I"m pretty sure it was Chuiu, could've been Dapperdan) said that in all his games he's never seen a mafia mayor. Then you can see that's it's stupid to start listing people who could be mafia, especially before the game starts, just because they're running for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 00:33 Falcynn wrote: You're breaking my balls man. Edit: Also just a random thought, wouldn't it technically be advantageous for mafia to not even try to run for mayor? I mean it seems like everyone here assumes that at least one person who runs for mayor HAS to be mafia. So if the mafia don't even bother to put a candidate up, then later in the game all those towny candidates will essentially end up being scapegoats for the lynchings. All I'm trying to say basically, is when we start lynching people...please come up with a better reasoning than "Well he ran for mayor and at least one of the candidates has to be mafia", because anyways...mayor seems to be useless to mafia. Besides the first lynching (which a towny mayor will probably get wrong anyways) the only powers the mayor has is his extra votes, which are pretty much useless if the town is even half decent (and if town sucks...then they REALLY don't need a mayor). As for the double lynching...well a mafia mayor would have to use his double lynchings in respect to the town's wishes anyways or risk being suspected as mafia. So in reality it seems that the wild goose chase that would ensue from not running for mafia would be more beneficial to them than the mayor or pardoner position would. I say the pardoner position is useless to mafia because then if he decides to pardon a fellow mafia without giving good reason then that guy will probably just be taken out by a vigilante at night. Afterwards the pardoner would be lynched by day giving the town two guaranteed mafia kills. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 09:00 Falcynn wrote:If that was directed at me, I know I just like having excuses to write random crap. Also I realize that mayor isn't completely useless to mafia and does give them a large advantage. What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't warrant such a large advantage that it's absolutely guaranteed that one of the candidates has to be mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 15 2008 23:44 Falcynn wrote:I heard we were starting Sunday. Also as for the voting system. If we do the separate blogs for voting we can make it so that every post made in their is required to be a vote, but you can still post your reasons in your post. For example... or It might be a nuisance having to look through all those links but it's still (imo) easier to keep track of votes and things like vote changes than looking through a huge thread to check peoples voting records. Especially considering that the way the votes are broken up will be like 1-3 actual votes for every 15 posts by some group of people arguing. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 05:20 Falcynn wrote:This game is gonna be epic! Hope I get something good ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:09 Falcynn wrote:I nominate randombum for mayor! Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:14 Falcynn wrote:You have to post in Chuiu's blog and glad to be of service randombum Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:04 Falcynn wrote:OMG! (from Chuiu's blog) I can't wait ^__________________________^ Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 15:23 Falcynn wrote:Same here! Can't wait to get started ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:47 Falcynn wrote:hey hey! no need to rush things, your hastiness seems pretty mafia-ish to me right now... Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:51 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, looking for clues is gonna be a bitch with 130 profiles to look through. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:00 Falcynn wrote: Alright, I'm too sleepy to look through all 130 profiles, but these are the lines in the post that caught my eye the most. The bolded parts are things that I'm kinda thinking could be clues, and bolded+italicized are things that I'm pretty certain relate to someone. So if anyone has any free time (randombum, that means you) these lines could lead somewhere. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:10 Falcynn wrote:Works for me. Too bad I already voted randombum though. (what? he sent me a PM personally and put that picture I made in his profile ^_^) Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:12 Falcynn wrote:ehhh...not really. How would we know if the detective we're asking is really a detective? I mean noone's going to come clean about their roles this early in the game in fear of being killed by the mafia. Edit: However it would be in the mayor's best interest to follow the voice of the townies for the first few days, so a mafia mayor wouldn't be completely terrible. Edit2: Just read Ghar's post, makes sense now...actually he seems like a pretty cool guy, eh has a plan and doesn't afraid of anything. I might change my vote to him later. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:19 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, but it's not like he just set up a mailing list. He still had to PM them all one by one, and to me that shows dedication. Seriously though, I actually might change my vote to ghar later since his strategy makes sense, and I actually trust bumatlarge's theory about 87-88%. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:33 Falcynn wrote:I'd just like to mention to everyone that since it's kind of a bitch running through 10+ pages that have sprung up after going to sleep/going out, I've decided to make a blog where I post links to any important clues/lists/posts so that a)it's easier to keep track of everything b)people who are too lazy to look through all the pages have a resource for all the important things they need to know, so it's not as overwhelming. Anyways, now that I've gotten that out of the way I'm also gonna join in on voting for Ace, since while any mayor should incorporate this plan. The fact that Ace brought it up shows experience, intelligence, and township (I mean it's doubtful a mafia would bring up a plan like this). Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:43 Falcynn wrote:You're still allowed to change your vote. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:45 Falcynn wrote:Hopefully if enough people PM what they think are important posts my blog will be able to summarize all the important aspects of the game so far. /shameless selfpromotion. Seriously though, what I can remember off the top of my head, Ace and Ghar are in the lead for mafia. avaar (I probably misspelled it) is also kind of in the lead due to him using some linux script to simplify a list of everyone's sigs/birthdays/etc into one post. Empyrean told everyone he's a detective and people are suspicious of him. A clue in the day post in which Chuiu was surrounded relates to Ghar's sig maybe. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:57 Falcynn wrote:To be honest the pardoner seems like a useless position for a towny until maybe really really late in the game. The only good thing that comes from granting someone Pardoner status is the bodyguard protection, so we don't really need a pardoner who works well with the mayor. We just need to put a towny that we want to keep protected. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:13 Falcynn wrote:Only the mayor knows who the body guards are, even the bodyguards themselves don't know. So if a bodyguard doesn't get a message...he'll just assume that he's not a bodyguard. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:00 Falcynn wrote:pffft. where have you been? Liquidia was over run by the mob a long time ago, this is Liquid City. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:26 Falcynn wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:55 Falcynn wrote:All days and nights will be roughly 24-48 hours each (at least I believe that's what he said). So expect a mayor to be elected by tonight or tomorrow night. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:09 Falcynn wrote:edit: forget all of this. no, it's either one of the roles in Tracil's game, or one of the roles Chuiu was planning to use, but scrapped. This version has no SC influence so Dark Templar isn't in it. Unless he means vigilante which I believe is what the DT essentially is. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:24 Falcynn wrote:Damn it guys, please don't pull another Dr.Dragoon on the town. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:27 Falcynn wrote:Just read my blog! It's not very complete right now, but it should catch you up on the basics. /more shameless self promotion. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:04 Falcynn wrote:I can't find the post right now, but a quick summary is... In the last game, Shallow[bay] in MSpaint doctored up a screenshot of Dr.Dragoon PM'ing him something like "hey, I just heard someone say you're mafia. I'm mafia too! Who should we kill first?" Dr.Dragoons responce to this was "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo" so everyone thought it was real and voted to lynch Dr.Dragoon, who continued to defend himself/insult everyone else. Turns out Dragoon was innocent and Shallow was mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:42 Falcynn wrote:Why would he need you to reply to him to doctor it? It's not that hard to take any regular PM and switch the names/date/time/message/etc. but I'm sure you know that already Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:44 Falcynn wrote:To be perfectly honest Ghar's move makes sense to me. I mean I'd assume most people running for mayor are running because they truly believe they could do a good job for the town. So if you're losing it'd make sense to endorse a more popular candidate who has similar ideas as you. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:04 Falcynn wrote: also so this post isn't a total waste. Here's the latest voting tallies. Mayor Elections Tally as of March 19 09:00 (TL/Korean time) Ace - (20) + Show Spoiler + Queasy,ahrara,Lenwe,MasterOfChaos,Fishball,Artanis[Xp],CDRdude,Joxxor,Ghar, spoinka,Hittegods,Hollander,Naib,useless,GeneralStan,Shadowdrgn,Falcynn,zeks, Mynock,Caller Empyrean - (18) + Show Spoiler + Heros)Pink,LucasWoJ,shallow[bay],LoStYouRSkiLLS,KH1031,LastRomantic,ImDerek, Meta,Eti307,Showtime,MTF,BloodyC0bbler,RST)Nightmare,NatsuTerran,Solosteer, JimTudor,nemy,decafchicken randombum - (10) + Show Spoiler + Lysithea,Drdragoon,Alethios,G.S)Naruto,Sadir,fanatacist,Bockit,GranDim,Ninja4ever, so no fek Ghar - (7) + Show Spoiler + TranceStorm,Ace,Pangolin,Mandalor,Amber[Light],rpf,Ziel araav - (8) + Show Spoiler + AcrossFiveJulys,SonuvBob,RowdierBob,Klive5ive,xdark,Neax,Energies,qsr Sonuvbob - (4) + Show Spoiler + Chezinu,LTT.wurm,bumatlarge fusionsdf - (3) + Show Spoiler + ~OpZ~ ,plexa,ZBIR plexa - (2) + Show Spoiler + ssj100,Seifu LastRomantic - (1) + Show Spoiler + aznvaliance Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:20 Falcynn wrote:Empyrean, you currently are in the lead for pardoner by 8 votes. I know that can change, but that's a pretty decent lead. Even if you don't get the mayor position, it seems almost certain you'll at least have body guard protection. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:42 Falcynn wrote: I have to agree. In the long run this "hole" would actually benefit the town alot more than it would benefit mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:50 Falcynn wrote:Shallow...if fusion posted any screenshots of a PM do you really think anyone would believe him after what happened last game? If anything fusion would just be getting himself lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:56 Falcynn wrote:Also as much as I think this is a great plan, it also assumes that the detectives aren't selfish bastards. I mean if things go bad it pretty much forces a detective to sacrifice himself for the town, and IME despite how much they'd be helping, I don't think many people would be willing to do that. Edit: OH I KNOW! If a detective is forced to sacrifice himself I'll have a memorial "plaque" on my blog to commemorate their selflessness, and maybe someone can whip up a cool picture for them ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:09 Falcynn wrote:If a detective comes clean about his role and says the mayor is mafia. We lynch the detective (this is why I was saying that a detective has to sacrifice himself and I was worried about this step) and if he turns blue, then we lynch the mayor next. With the mayor gone the bodyguards are mostly useless and they all reveal their lists. From there we can figure out the mafia. This does mean that the Pardoner is an easy kill, but hoping that we communicate and work together well as a town, we (again, hopefully) won't be in dire need of him. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:23 Falcynn wrote:OH YEAH! Everyone loves the Falcynn! Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:33 Falcynn wrote:I'd assume so. Basically we just lynch everybody that claims to be detective. So hopefully one detective will find the will to claim that the mayor is mafia and after that the rest of the detectives should not say anything, because everyone else will get lynched as well. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:35 Falcynn wrote:Then when he pardons someone a vigilante takes that person out the next night. If the person who got pardoned is mafia, then we lynch the pardoner next day. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 10:42 Falcynn wrote:Lol, don't worry. I kind of thought of that after posting it, but then goldenkrnboi told me I was clever and so I wanted to bask in the glory until someone decided to ruin it >.> Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:18 Falcynn wrote:Oh damn, that's true. Even though all the detectives will probably be able to confide in Empyrean if he's found to be a towny, his own powers will probably be rendered useless since the mafia will try to keep the saboteur on him for at least the first few days/nights. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:55 Falcynn wrote:eh, well it's better to point out clues to the potential mayors than to just have them randomly lynch someone. I agree that at this stage of the game it's stupid to try to decisively claim that someone is mafia, however there's no harm in just discussing the clues now. Since what we discuss could influence the mayor's choice for who he lynches. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 13:52 Falcynn wrote:eh? I don't recall Tracil using <-> that many times in his posts...it would be annoying though. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:46 Falcynn wrote:For anyone who cares, Randombum just pulled ahead of Empyrean. Right now the vote tallies for the top 3 are. Ace-31 randombum-20 Empyrean-18 Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:55 Falcynn wrote:Well he edited it out on the same minute as he original posted it, so he probably meant to post it in another topic. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:16 Falcynn wrote: We've gone over this a bunch of times already. A detective will check out the mayor, if he's mafia then the detective will post his findings. After that we lynch the detective, if he turns blue then we lynch the mayor (we lynch the detective to deter mafiosos from spreading false rumors and declaring themselves detective). Edit: and dinmsab, you have to post your votes in Chuiu's blog, not here. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:07 Falcynn wrote:I'm just saying that if we find out the mayor is mafia, we'll know not to listen to anything he says. We can choose to lynch him, or we can choose not to. However if we do find out the mayor is mafia then we'll probably have to lynch him since it's doubtful he'd be willing to declare double lynches since he'll no longer be forced to work in the town's best interests. However we're pretty much forced to check if the mayor is mafia, because if we don't then he can seriously fuck up the townies through persuasion. So if we get a mafia mayor we're pretty much fucked and everything we do beyond that point is just damage control. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 03:07 Falcynn wrote:Well judging from the votes, about 95 people have cast in their votes which equates to roughly 75%. So even if they're not posting, at least 75% of the people playing are at least reading the thread. It's not great, but it's much better than last game at least. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 03:09 Falcynn wrote:I'm sure mafia would want to save their suicide bomber for later in the game. As it stands I think his extra half-kill is more important for the early rounds. EDIT: OMG CORSAIR! YIPEE! Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 03:16 Falcynn wrote:eh...true. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:14 Falcynn wrote:Noone's trying to get anyone lynched at this point. The only reason people are trying to figure out if Empyrean is mafia or not is because he's running for mayor and obviously a mafia mayor would be bad (and they're not even trying to be certain about his affiliation, only his likeliness of being mafia). All the other people interpreting clues aren't doing it because they're trying to get those people lynched, they're just getting some sleuthing started so that when more clues come in we can cross reference them with what we've already gathered. No harm in that. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:33 Falcynn wrote:Then that person would be a greedy asshole and everyone will continue to insult him throughout the rest of the game, and through the rest of the next game if he plays there. Plus, if they sacrifice themselves I'll photoshop a memorial plaque for them or something. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:59 Falcynn wrote:Awesome, glad you cleared all that up! Thanks Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:03 Falcynn wrote:Ace - 31 + Show Spoiler + BlindAlbino Energies Camlito CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie randombum - 23 + Show Spoiler + LTT L GeneralStan MTF Showtime! crazie-penguin Hollander Mynock suresh0t Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea GrayArea jeejee Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace Empyrean - 18 + Show Spoiler + ~OpZ~ Last Romantic Meta Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim SonuvBob - 4 + Show Spoiler + MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu araav - 5 + Show Spoiler + SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys ghar - 4 + Show Spoiler + Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm fusionsdf - 4 + Show Spoiler + Scorch Plexa ZBiR Kau Plexa - 2 + Show Spoiler + ssj100 Siefu Last Romantic - 2 + Show Spoiler + aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive Abstain - 6 + Show Spoiler + BloodyC0bbler Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum CTStalker oh, sorry Chuiu, didn't catch your post. Well at least that's less work for you hopefully Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 08:01 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, that seems like a pretty good starting point to me. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 08:26 Falcynn wrote:If you're talking about the flaw posted here http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=40#786 or any variation of that, then it's been discussed already and so far it's agreed that there is no flaw. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:48 Falcynn wrote:This is probably a stupid question, but I figured I'd just ask it anyway to get it off my mind. Regular detectives only have 2 rolechecks per game. However if a jack uses the detective abilities, does he get the role checks back. Considering that when they use their veteran powers they regain their night lives, I figured I'd ask. (again, probably a dumb question, but I just wanted to let it out) Also, being absolutely sure that our mayor isn't mafia is way more important imo than essentially wasting 3 role checks that wouldn't have needed to be used. So I encourage all detectives to use their role check if possible. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:51 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, hence why I said it was probably a stupid question. On the off chance that Jacks do get extra role checks however...well then asking this is way worth it ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:56 Falcynn wrote:I'm not saying that the Jacks should use a role check on the mayor, that's the detective's job. However knowing that we have extra role checks (even if they're limited to only 2 as well) is always good, so that we don't have to rely on the detectives for everything later in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:07 Falcynn wrote:The detective's supposed to investigate the mayor (if I understand correctly) and the detective will announce if they find the mayor to be mafia. At which point we lynch the detective first. If he turns blue, then we go after the mayor next. A detective for a mafia sounds like a bad trade, but it's the best we can get if it turns out we voted a mafia in. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:46 Falcynn wrote:On the off chance that it isn't obvious enough. They'll probably sacrifice their suicide bomber to take out Empyrean+a couple of medics. Assuming that Empyrean really is a detective. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:07 Falcynn wrote:Whoa, randombum was 3 votes away from mayor...people got a bit carried away there. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:21 Falcynn wrote:suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:12 Falcynn wrote:Yay! Rejoice! Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:44 Falcynn wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:51 Falcynn wrote:I'm just gonna point out that's really suspicious. As has already been noted, it's doubtful that you have some inside information due to a role you might have seeing how noone's been able to use their roles yet, so the fact that you're witholding information shows that you have something to hide >.> <.< Edit: Saying that the mafia is posting privately is a crappy excuse. The mafia posts privately because it helps keep their identities unknown. Townies rely purely on discussion and information...which you seem to be withholding. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 13:57 Falcynn wrote:lol yeah. Right now I'm getting the impression that showtime is either A) Mafia B) Really doesn't know anything, but wants people to believe he's clever. C) Really really stubborn. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:06 Falcynn wrote:Agreed, put into context all of his ramblings make sense now. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:41 Falcynn wrote:Beer doesn't actually have a high enough alcohol content to light someone on fire, but I get what you're getting at. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:11 Falcynn wrote:They mean they're planning on lynching someone who votes (so they don't get kicked from the game) but doesn't contribute anything discussion wise into this thread. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:17 Falcynn wrote:Then look at my blog!!! /more shameless self promotion Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:59 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, Araav did it. It should be in my blog, the first link in the "Lists" section. | ||
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Falcynn Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:00 Falcynn wrote:Also if anyone wants to check out the clue interpretations/suspicions that have already been posted, I got them right here Edit: fixed broken links Sonuvbob's list of people he thinks are mafia+his reasoning http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=57#1132 Shallow[bay]'s list of all the people that the code names can relate to http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=31#602 Reason people think Ghar could be mafia. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=20#391 IMO some pretty good interpretations by xDark.Carnivalx http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=23#456 More interpretations of what the code names could mean by Meta. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=20#392 Clues from ShadowDrgn, these deal more with the dialog/action of the day post rather than the code names. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=48#958 Sureshot posting some of his thoughts in a blog http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68254 Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:10 Falcynn wrote:Oh lol, yeah that'd take alot of work... araav? You got any special program that might be able to do that? ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:15 Falcynn wrote:So if we're just plain green townies you still want us to confirm with you? Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:56 Falcynn wrote:I have to agree. Even though it's doubtful that the mafia could screw up something so simple, there's still the small chance they'll screw up and we'll be able to weed them out. A small chance of catching mafia is better than no chance. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:23 Falcynn wrote:That is possible, but considering the amount of risk in trying to guess a role that happens to be inactive is too great it seems doubtful that they'd try it. Then again the amount of information they could get by getting into this network is probably worth more than one mafia's life so...ok I'm not really sure how to feel about this right now. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:42 Falcynn wrote:errrr...actually the reason most people don't lose to that is because if you can see it coming (and usually from the first move you can) it's pretty easy to stop. (unless you're thinking of something else) Anyways, it kinda sounds like someone's just sore that mafia is gonna lose ...hmmm? Also if we were doing anything illegal I'm sure Chuiu would've just stopped us, and it's not like this strategy is insta-win (far from it). If mafia is even slightly clever they'll be able to get around this. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:47 Falcynn wrote:lol yeah, I don't really see where this is supposed to be cheap. All the mafia has to do is just PM "yeah I'm a regular townie" and bam, we're back at square one. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:29 Falcynn wrote:Whether or not that's his plan, it seems to be working =D Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:31 Falcynn wrote:That's a horrible example. We're playing this game perfectly within the boundaries of the rules, for your analogy to make any sense we would've had to do something drastic like hacking into everyone's accounts and checking their PM's. If you want to talk about SC examples. We're 4pooling you mafia guys, and you're complaining about how we're ruining the game because of a "cheap" strategy that you can't get around (it's not that hard). Edit: and obviously we're going to keep looking out for clues, but since there are like 130 guys, there are going to be times where clues point to more than one guy. So we need other tactics to narrow down the choices. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:46 Falcynn wrote:I'm sure you guys will come up with something to counter this I'd rather not share how the mafia can counter this since I don't want to give them ideas, but it is possible. Town will gain a slight advantage, but mafia can still win easily. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:01 Falcynn wrote:Sorry, meant to say "At worst, town will gain a slight advantage..." However despite that, this plan isn't 100% fool proof like you seem to be trying to make it out to be. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:11 Falcynn wrote:If I can come up with counters to what the mafia might be able to do, then I'll post what I'm thinking of right now. However if the mafia does what I'm thinking of, I'm not sure if there's a decent way to catch them. So until I can think of a way to close this hole, I'd rather not discuss it (since I'm hoping that the mafia won't think of it). Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:19 Falcynn wrote:TBH mafia is originally supposed to be played without any clues and you usually win using strategies like what we're using (ok...not really like them, but close enough). Clues are only used for large internet games where it's hard to personally get to know people and understand their character. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:22 Falcynn wrote:That wouldn't work, because the detective's still gonna check him out. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:10 Falcynn wrote:ehhh...I think Chuiu might have to clear that up. It says that it doesn't affect the right to vote, not how many votes you get. Edit: damn, beaten by opz Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:45 Falcynn wrote:The next time you have a question like this, you'd probably be better off PM'ing Chuiu. Because now, if you're not mafia, the mafia are going to probably guess you're a veteran. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:50 Falcynn wrote:True. I was mostly just getting that out there, so that anyone else with a special role should just PM Chuiu if they have a question regarding their role. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 00:58 Falcynn wrote:I already figured that hence why I said "if you're not mafia..." Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:06 Falcynn wrote:Ok, I just want to tell something to the mafia. I asked Chuiu and he says if I die I can continue updating my blog as long as I keep it unbiased. So if you guys put a hit on me because of that, too bad. Even if you succeeded you wouldn't stop me Edit: still got 6 pages to read. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:32 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, I'm sleepy and not thinking straight, and coming home to see all of this just kind of got me overexcited. I know I'm going to regret that post. Anyways, the mafia should already know that I was protected due to the fact that I'm not dead. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 16:18 Falcynn wrote:Alright, now I'm REALLY going to bed. I added a new section to my blog if anyone cares, I think it might help us figure out on which clues would be good to look back on. If you'd like to help me out just PM or post anything you would like to add. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:31 Falcynn wrote:Yeah, it'd seem more plausible for the clue to be related to signatures than mood, because some people change their mood icons all the time. Also I guess I could just be defending it since I've had the same mood icon for the last 2~ years. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:43 Falcynn wrote:Holy...shit. Nice find! Yeah, it's kind of obvious, but some of the clues from last game were blatantly obvious as well. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 02:55 Falcynn wrote:This recent finding along with the clue from last day. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=20#391 makes me think Ghar should be a good candidate for lynching. The only thing I'm not sure about is why would Ghar try to enact that detective plan, because he would obviously be found out. Unless maybe he was sacrificing himself to rid the town of the mayor and possibly one or two detectives, and the ability to get rid of the bodyguards to get the pardoner. Seems like a pretty damn good motive actually...alright, I'm gonna put my vote for him and change it if something better comes up. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:03 Falcynn wrote: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=17#324 Right there. Edit: awww too late. Oh, and it seems Ghar announced his candidacy before the game started, so in a way he was pretty much forced to continue his campaign no matter what or people would get suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:59 Falcynn wrote:Just throwing this out there to Ace since he probably has his own plans, but maybe you can have one of the detectives ask Chuiu if the whole using Mynocks dismembered head as a flail is a clue that corresponds to Ghar. You don't have a limit to those kinds of questions I believe, so it wouldn't be much of a waste. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:13 Falcynn wrote:Well we can at least dig up more dirt on people so that Ace might coordinate the vigilantes to kill them tonight if we find any really strong leads. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:21 Falcynn wrote:I think we have until Sunday? Not sure, Day started yesterday and if Chuiu follows through with the whole 48 hours per half cycle, that should give us until tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:05 Falcynn wrote: Edit: nvm I'm an idiot. or two, I forgot if Chuiu rounds their killing power up or down. If he rounds it down then we might be able to reduce it for tomorrow with a successful vigilante kill. However we might want to save those for later in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:21 Falcynn wrote:Wait...I'm confused, does this mean that you want us to retract our votes from Ghar? I'm asking because that second part makes it sound like we're voting correctly, but you're telling us to withdraw... Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:12 Falcynn wrote:Of course you can't trust everyone, this is obvious. However by forcing everyone to PM him he's forcing the mafia to lie, chances are they'll just say they're regular green townies and we're back at square one. Or they might take a risk and role claim as a blue, at which point it'll be slightly easier to snuff them out. The point is there's really no negative aspect to this part of the plan and a small chance it could greatly benefit us. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:37 Falcynn wrote:To be honest, I think Chuiu put that 48 hour rule only because the towny's wanted the game to move faster (last game Chuiu only changed the days when it seemed like the towny's were pretty sure who they wanted to lynch). I'm sure that if it seems like we're not ready yet, Chuiu will let this day go on as long as it needs to. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:07 Falcynn wrote:haha yeah, this is starting to look like a rare game where the town is actually more organized than the mafia, and they're panicking :D Edit: also could Chuiu tell us if he'd be willing to extend day if we're not ready yet? Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:13 Falcynn wrote:I'm saying that because last game there was no deadline, chuiu kept day going until it seemed obvious that the town was ready. He only put the 48h cycle because townies were complaining that day took too long. So since he made that change because the town wanted it, maybe he'd be willing to extend it again if the town wants it. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:31 Falcynn wrote:Chuiu said he'd answer detective questions ASAP. Seeing as how Chuiu seems to be online roughly every 5-8 hours, I believe enough time has passed to say that Ace is a towny. Edit: also if you want to retract your statement, just do like me and put at the bottom of/above your post "Edit: ignore this, useless info" instead of removing your post. Since that seems pretty suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:35 Falcynn wrote:Also just very very small clue, but Heros)Pink has a pink milkshake/girl with a pink dress in his profile pic, and the two people in his picture are very very close "face to face". I don't believe that Pink is mafia right now, but if he doesn't shut up I'm just gonna keep posting stuff like this. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:36 Falcynn wrote:lol I know, just for future reference Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:39 Falcynn wrote:Let me guess...there are only 19 people on your list of people you trust? lol I'll stop hassling you now. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:49 Falcynn wrote:Wait...so now all of the DT's have no more role checks? I mean it's nice to have everyone confirmed, and I guess this is probably the best way to do it, but using up their role checks this quickly seems like it may cost us later. However if they/you use their other skills correctly I guess it shouldn't be a problem. Just voicing my concerns. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:52 Falcynn wrote:Ah, thanks for the confirmation. I guess in about 5-6 hours if Ace hasn't told us who to vote then we might just have to listen to ahrara and bandwagon Ghar. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:20 Falcynn wrote:Also TLnet Attack is on, so if noone responds to anything for the next few hours...that's why. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:43 Falcynn wrote:ok, it's confirmed, awesome. Too bad Mandalor. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:46 Falcynn wrote:Alright, and just in case I put at the very top of my blog telling people to vote mandalor. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:52 Falcynn wrote:w00t, I knew you could be trusted Ace! <3<3<3 Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:59 Falcynn wrote:I'm pretty sure Emp's just making fun of all those guys who seem to question just about everything. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:06 Falcynn wrote:*checks country* oh..Austria? Damn, could've sworn you were Romanian for a second. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:43 Falcynn wrote:pffft just use your imagination when you read the lynch posts. Instead of reading it "and so and so dropped from the gallows as his skin turned blah blah blah", just pretend you're reading "and as the soldering irons were pulled from his eyes after 10 minutes, it was clear that he was blah blah blah". Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:25 Falcynn wrote:Right now #1 is Ghar obviously because of the MSpaint he did and the clue from the first day that relates to his signature (8 cardinal directions in the post compared to his sig which claims a sort of surround) #2 is Pink (there's the obvious Mr. Pink, but then his profile picture shows a girl in a pink dress, a pink milkshake, and the girl sitting very very close "face to face" with the boy). #3 is French (no clues against him though). Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:26 Falcynn wrote:nah, if we're discussing clues I think we should discuss them here. We should only PM things that might cause danger to ourselves/the town. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 10:06 Falcynn wrote:Kind of funny to see that Mandalor isn't even trying to defend his case (he was on earlier), he realizes he's fucked and is just taking it. Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:39 Falcynn wrote:If anyone's confused, what has happened (or from what I can figure out) is that some people PM'd Ace claiming to be detective. As a test Ace had them all role check a guy whose role he already knew. Out of all the people that claimed to be detective, Mandalor was the ONLY one to get the role check wrong. Also as I've said before, Mandalor was on earlier (and made a post I believe) and he didn't even try to defend his case, meaning that he probably realizes he's been outed and is just gonna take his punishment like a man. Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:40 Falcynn wrote:He was online earlier, I saw him post a little while after Ace revealed his findings. Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:43 Falcynn wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...pic_id=67925¤tpage=112#2227 right there Edit: fine, and I'll link the post where Ace claims Mand got the question wrong -.- ok, here's where Ace tells Mandalor he got the check wrong. http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...pic_id=67925¤tpage=111#2212 (notice that Manda's post I linked at the beginning of this post comes after Ace's) Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:47 Falcynn wrote: Look at my last post (bottom of the last page(page 116)). Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:19 Falcynn wrote:Pink was right that Chuiu wouldn't extend day, but the hostility that he showed in this and preceding posts seems to question his affiliation. whoa...deja vu. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:22 Falcynn wrote:lol, well as long as you're not stalking up on me with a gun or knife I'm fine with it. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:28 Falcynn wrote:As I've already mentioned, we acknowledge that we were in the wrong. The issue isn't that Pink was telling us we couldn't extend day, the issue is the way he said it which seemed to evoke a hostile/panicked tone. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:30 Falcynn wrote:lol in forums where they have forum cash, the village idiot's role is to get himself lynched and if he succeeds he makes a predetermined amount of cash. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:54 Falcynn wrote:Well usually Chuiu closes the votes about a half hour before he posts the day/night posts. So seeing how the votes are still open I'm guessing night won't come for another half hour/hour. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:12 Falcynn wrote:It could also just be the fact that we've already looked through all the clues we can and are now just waiting for Mandalor to get lynched, then wait for the mafia to make their hits. After the next day post things should pick back up again. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:30 Falcynn wrote:A huge night for both sides? Mind explaining? (unless you'd rather keep it secret for now) Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:36 Falcynn wrote:Ah, well that makes sense. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:27 Falcynn wrote:Fuck yes! Ace, my faith in you has increased 10 fold just now. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:34 Falcynn wrote:Considering none of those guys are high profile suspects (except Pink maybe (heh...maybe that's why he voted for carnival last minute, he wanted us to check him)) I agree that checking all of them out would take up too much time. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:15 Falcynn wrote:Wow...so would it be safe to assume that maybe the other 9 people abstained or voted someone else? Or would it be safer to assume that the other 9 people are probably just inactive? Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:28 Falcynn wrote:You do know that detectives are allowed to ask how many people voted for someone right? Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:41 Falcynn wrote:pffft, of course. Because this time we actually voted for a mayor based on his plans rather than "vote for me or else" :D Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:54 Falcynn wrote:For the most part nothing has changed between last game and this game. The only main differences are that mafia have special roles, and we have a good mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:45 Falcynn wrote:I think that's something he should PM to Ace instead of posting it publicly Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:14 Falcynn wrote:I kind of wished that Ace would've held off telling this until day broke, but oh well, if he's right this will probably turn out for the best. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:00 Falcynn wrote:Holy shit, I'm still alive! Don't have much time to get too heavily into this anymore though...so hopefully you guys are still awesome at interpreting clues. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:17 Falcynn wrote:Some of those guys could be vigilantes. Vigilantes show up in the posts and have clues that link to them as well I believe. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:55 Falcynn wrote:yay! Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:46 Falcynn wrote:Just wondering...if you're going to pardon him, what's the point of double lynching? Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:15 Falcynn wrote:Wait...were you guys using your real profile names in the chat room? Wouldn't have been slightly more secure to just use codenames? Well ok...it's pretty doubtful that someone would be a big enough douche to hack into a private chat room, but still... Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:19 Falcynn wrote:Ah, that makes sense. I still would've used code names, but then again I'm pretty much paranoid about everything. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:44 Falcynn wrote:lol. Seriously though, it's nice to see that the game isn't going to end over this considering all the effort that's been put out so far. However if it's true what araav did then it's obviously pretty cheap (and he's a total douche), but I agree that this is the kind of situation that should've been prepared for =/ Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:58 Falcynn wrote:Apparently he hacked into a private chat room that Ace had set up for people he had cleared 100% as being a blue townie. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:59 Falcynn wrote:It's part of Ace's plan. 9 people voted for Mandalor last game, so now he's splitting up the people who for Mandalor to vote for either wurm or bumatlarge (was originally ghar though). Then he'll have detectives check those lists, and continue narrowing down the list until we have 9 guaranteed mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:00 Falcynn wrote:Sweet, I'm set for the day. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:36 Falcynn wrote:Well my faith has just decreased by a lot =/ I still trust Ace...but this is pretty disheartening. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 04:57 Falcynn wrote:Well the campaign picture wasn't his fault, and while wurm wasn't following orders I still don't think we should've lynched him. He claims that he protected me on night 1 and another medic also sent me a PM. The PM Chuiu sent me said that 2 medics protected me so the PM's I got from the two supposed medics all checked out. So unless Ace got a PM from another medic who claimed they saved me instead of wurm and the other guy, I see no reason to really put wurm as a prime suspect. Of course I'm only saying that now after the revelation that Ace was wrong, still though, wurm hasn't given any cause for people to suspect him except that he didn't follow orders. And while people who don't follow orders can hinder our victory, we should wait 'til late game to take care of them. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:07 Falcynn wrote:Good point, it's kinda doubtful that mafia would try to make a huge scene (well...except shallow from last game, but I'm sure the mafia this round has learned from his example). The people who are acting like douches are probably just bored townies. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:14 Falcynn wrote:I'm starting to realize that this plan of Ace's is probably more suited to smaller games. With a large game like this we have way too many people stirring shit up and confusing everybody. edit: and we didn't have 7000 clues...more like 2. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 06:57 Falcynn wrote:aww don't be like that. Like I said, most of us (or at least me) are just pissed off right now at getting this lynch wrong. Don't give up now. Also I haven't been keeping up with the thread as much as I'd like, so if I assumed a few things wrongly then sorry. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:12 Falcynn wrote:lol, we're not allowed to elect a new mayor oh and Ace, if you're still reading this, please don't give up on the town yet. People are gonna get pissed off when bad things happen, it's something that we all have to put up with, but we're (at least I am) sorry if our criticisms got to you. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:34 Falcynn wrote:Same, when this game started I was able to lurk through this thread 24/7, however I don't have that much time now and have pretty much dropped out of this game =/ Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:23 Falcynn wrote:lol? what tournaments were those from? Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 07:44 Falcynn wrote:OH WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I GET ALL OF MY SCHOOL SHIT DONE FINALLY AND YOU MOTHER FUCKERS KILL ME!!! FUCK YOU!!! Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:09 Falcynn wrote:Bah, I vote Randombum for mayor because he put that picture I made in his profile ^_^ Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:21 Falcynn wrote:Bah, I said later but seeing how it should be easier for you to keep track of votes this way anyways I'll just change now despite my fickle ways. I change my vote from randombum to ghar Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:35 Falcynn wrote:I change my vote to Ace since his plan seems alot better than the other candidates currently. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:22 Falcynn wrote:ilj.psa isn't on the front page list. Did he just confirm late? or is he another GeneralStan? Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 02:55 Falcynn wrote:I vote for Ghar To clarify, I'm voting for him due to the picture he posted (reposted by L) and the previous clue from the first day post about being surrounded. The clue's aren't really great, but since he's the only guy who has had 2 clues on different days relate to him I feel he's the best candidate at the moment. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:46 Falcynn wrote:I withdraw my vote and will abstain for now. I'm trusting you Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:34 Falcynn wrote:I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 14:09 Falcynn wrote:You're supposed to make a new post. One of the reasons we have separate threads (iirc at least) is so that we can keep track of people changing their votes. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:32 Falcynn wrote:As per Ace's request I vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 08:17 Falcynn wrote:My second vote will abstain So that makes my first vote to wurm. and abstaining my second. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 12:10 Falcynn wrote:I'm going to abstain until I can catch up on the thread. (just want to make sure I don't get removed since I don't think I voted last time) + Show Spoiler [Fen] + 10. Fen Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:16 Fen wrote:GG, Mad hatter is a really strong role for the townies. Great start townies. God I wish I was mafia again Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:48 Fen wrote:However annoucing yourself as a Veteran will most likely keep you safe throughout this game. Your voting power is only 1, but the mafia need to use 3 lynches to kill you. Its not economical. So the only way you'll die is if you are townie lynched. That being said, as a veteran your also a damage soak. You can save 2 peoples lives by the mafia wasting killing power on you. + Show Spoiler [Fishball] + 26. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 01:45 Fishball wrote: Agreed, and that is exactly what Tracil and his assistant did. Although 110+ PM's is quite a number. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 01:58 Fishball wrote: Nice first post you got there... Seems like you just signed up TL today, just to play Mafia Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:07 Fishball wrote: That is what Tracil did also. One of the players suggested using different Blog pages for each day/night instead. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 04:31 Fishball wrote: L finally signs up. I hope you survive this time Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:53 Fishball wrote:I just want to get this over with and head to Night. The votes are pretty much set. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:27 Fishball wrote:Haha Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:25 Fishball wrote: I call mafia Townies can't be that dumb, right?! Vigil get him gogo Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:36 Fishball wrote:Everyone just hush, and wait for Day to come. See who lives and who dies. Then wait for our detectives to check our mayor out. After that point we continue to phase 2. The Bodyguard plan would be carried out in the end anyways. As the majority of townies voted for him, it would be pointless if we would want to stop Ace's plan here, except for one case - Ace is proved to be mafia. "Certain" individuals who oppose Ace's plan at this early stage of the game, even after fellow players who tried to explain the logic to him yet "failed", really looks suspicious to me. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:43 Fishball wrote: Yep, like hacking into TL's system and check all PMs for roles OK, all jokes aside, the answer would be no. However, we should be more logical. Like I said, Day hasn't even come yet, nor did any Detectives are able to check Ace yet. It's kinda pointless having arguments when things didn't even happen yet. A good example is that people were already debating against each other before Chuiu even sent out PMs for roles. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote: All elements aside, just this specific case as an example. If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:57 Fishball wrote: Oh I know its effective if the Mafia used it right. I'm just explaining the possible reasons to clazziquai of why a fellow mafia would role block a fellow mafia mayor. To decieve the townies. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:40 Fishball wrote:Seems like the potential mafia approve of this plan! They are QQing! Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:44 Fishball wrote: Exactly the point, hence my post above yours, haha Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:39 Fishball wrote: Re-read your own post again. You think it makes sense? Hey, I know you want to double-up your million dollars. Just give your money to me and I'll do it for you. No worries, I'll tell you how I'm going to do it once I get your money! Ha, I beat your ninja edit. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:53 Fishball wrote: My ass! I would crush one of the guys skull on the wall with one hand, and snap the other guys neck with the other. I call BS! Posted in night7/main_page.149 Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:01 Fishball wrote: ^ Another Mafia! I know him, his real name is James! I will haunt you in Dopewars... Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:49 Fishball wrote: What he mean is, there was no password for the channel to begin with. Anybody could have walked in. It was Showtime! who said there was no password, so nobody is lying here, and Araav is not the one to blame also. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:53 Fishball wrote:I'm not allowed to say anything that is game effecting, such as analyzing clues, pointing out suspects, etc. My post above is just pointing out the obvious for people who didn't read through entirely. Enough with the insults and "accusing" already. Not to me, but to other fellow players as a whole in this thread. If you were in the first game, you would've seen I've posted a bit even after I died. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 02:53 Fishball wrote:I keep thinking of Schindler's List when you guys say Mandalor's list -_- Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 05:36 Fishball wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 08:16 Fishball wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 09:07 Fishball wrote:Night already ! Need more people to join the dead. + Show Spoiler [French_Toast] + 61. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 06:34 French_Toast wrote: Hmm, does this mean that people may no longer confirm their participation? Because I assume that assigning roles takes some time, and if they tell you at the last second then do they become an automatic Towny? Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:56 French_Toast wrote: When I first read this, I was like: what? Then I browsed the first post and I was amazed. We have a waiting list! Lol! It's like we're a collage or something! But since only 123 people confirmed so far, anybody who wants to play can pretty much sign up right now. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 10:40 French_Toast wrote:A lot of the inactive people from last game got bumped onto the list. Out of the 160 people we have roughly 120, so around 40 people are inactive or dead. That is around half of last game, and if I remember correctly, only half the town was active and everybody was complaining, so it makes sense. This whole confirmation requirement was made to root out the inactive in the first place. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:24 French_Toast wrote:Ha, another one of those black border 4chan images with funny commentary, they never get old. I think I still have one of those in my profile. Anyways, Randombum, you seem like a valid candidate because you are very active, however you need more reasons for people to vote for you. I suggest besides making logical arguments you could emotionally connect with the public. The campaign image is a good start, it got some people to smile, but I suggest making more funny image campaign promoters. You can also earn the respect of the public by posting really well, outwitting everyone, and always having a better answer. Present yourself to the public with confidence, leadership, pride, and strategy! Design a plan, stick to it, advertise it, and it will do wonders for your mayoral campaign. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:51 French_Toast wrote: I didn't say not to listen, I just said to have a better answer. Example: player1: Hello everyone I think we should kill player5 because (reason) player2: Well if you look closely at the clues, they relate to player9 because (reason) player1: That is a thought to consider, but player5 is also (so and so) and player9 is (so and so), I will look into the matter more attentively however for now my opinion on player5 is still unchanged. See what happened? Player1 considered player2's argument but still declared he had a backbone by mentioning his theory on player5 still stands. Therefore, player2 now sides with player1 and has gained respect for him. Even though you accept someone else's opinion you still have a better answer and can dominate the situation, thus earning respect from the person, and any onlookers who happen to notice your interaction. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:41 French_Toast wrote: Of course, every skill in the wrong hands can ultimately be abused. The mayor is the leader (or should be the leader) of the town discussion. In order for the mayor role to be effective he has to make some decisions. The skill set he has is quite deadly: Double lynch, increased vote count, and an insta-lynch at the beginning of the game. The mayor, therefore, has great powers to shift the direction of the game. He does have to listen to all of the citizens, but he ultimately decides if he will call forth the double lynch, who he will use his extra votes for, and who he will kill after the election. It's true, these are tough decisions to make, but the mayor has to lead everyone to be successful. On a side note: Chuiu, I am wondering what time zone you live in. Maybe your "late" is my "early" and vice versa? (Mine is Us eastern) Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:54 French_Toast wrote: This, and fuck yeah sea king, are two of the worst things that ever spawned out of 4chan. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:42 French_Toast wrote:Amazing, this game is only starting and there is already 57 pages of posts! That's around 1/3 of the pages of last game! Maybe we will set a TL record? Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote:Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:15 French_Toast wrote: How do you know we won't need it? I'm not psychic, and I don't think you are either. The mafia can still kill a lot of people every night. A fools-mate basically never happens. It's an example of the fastest possible checkmate. Fools-mate is theorycrafting that requires both sides to try achieve it. This game is already challenging. It's not our job to balance, it's Chuiu and Dapperdan's. Besides--winning is fun.[-/QUOTE-] Alright I'll do the same thing as you only I'll number 1. There are of course lots of noobs, but I have noticed that the players this time around know what's coming and have good plans set up. The bodyguard plan, and even the PM plan are all strategies none the less. Also there are more people spending their time interpreting the clues, I even saw blog posts for clues, lists, and even important posts. Both sides are much more prepared, there are noobs, but when you can observe already good players posting all around you, learning is not that difficult. We do not need plans that make the game less fun, this is one of them. 2. I wasn't only talking about the list, that's common knowledge. I saw a mini conversation between two posters where one said he had a giant spreadsheet, and the other said they also are keeping track of everything. And as for offending you, I'm sowwy I huwt yo fewwings. 3. WOW! How did you guess I'm a psychic?!! You must certainly be a psychic too! Tbh I already saw the future and everything, it's a gay strategy! KThnxBye!~~ 4. I don't think you got my point with the chess example. I wasn't trying to argue about fools mate, I was trying to show you, through metaphor, that by using this we might end the game quickly, but it won't be as exciting and fun. Winning itself is only fun the first or second time. After a while you want challenge, and to play better games. Would you really chose winning easily all the time over playing great games and winning only some of the time? Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:26 French_Toast wrote: Okay, first of all thanks for insulting me directly, now I have an excuse to put you down. Secondly, are you the type of n00b that when he gets a great game and plays it, he types in cheat codes automatically? Do you really like to replace skill with exploits? If so then games in general are not for you, especially StarCraft. Why do you think developers balance games out? StarCraft went through so many patches for that single purpose, that is why it's so competitive. And no, I don't want to lose, but I don't want to play unfair either! And if you were talking about cheesing for StarCraft, those aren't really exploits, they are valid strategies that can be countered. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:29 French_Toast wrote: Thanks for asking. I like the bodyguard plan, that seems a great way to go. Also, I think we should spend a lot of our time interpreting clues, I mean if people did that more last game, the townies would have won. Especially in the end, they were so obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:43 French_Toast wrote: Of course you are playing by the rules, you just chose to go the wrong way to go about it. You are not hacking, or cheating, a better way to describe it would be glitching. Look, let's say everyone responds truthfully except for the Mafia. Unless the Mafia are stupid they will all claim to be townies. Now, what you have is, all special roles are safe and medics can be assigned via PM. Also you have 31 innocents and you know everyone's special role. So, then you could also coordinate attacks with vigilantes, investigations with detectives, and other stuff. HOW CHEAP IS THAT? You are pretty much assembling an organized army and reducing possible suspects by 31! This game is set for you! Unless the mafia are super awesome you are pretty much 4 pooling them. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 07:47 French_Toast wrote: I don't really see how my posts are bitchy, but if you want me to be more polite, then sure. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 07:50 French_Toast wrote: Well if you are accusing me of being mafia then I'm afraid I have no defense off the top of my head. The only thing I could really say is that you'll be wasting a lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 07:58 French_Toast wrote: I do not see how this is only a slight advantage. What I wrote would be an ideal case scenario because we will have inactive people not send their PM and the mafia can use this as an excuse but, if someone suddenly becomes active and does not reply then I presume they become suspicious. And if you do not wish to post your ideas, that is fine, I'll have other people to debate with. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:06 French_Toast wrote: I know this is doing wonders for my post count Mafia related: I am not trying to act selfish, if I seem that way, I'm just trying to point out that this strategy is cheap and we should stick to others like: interpreting the clues, and bodyguard plan. | ||
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61. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:09 French_Toast wrote: Not 100%? Debate with me. (Unless you don't want to.) Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:15 French_Toast wrote: I think I already addressed this, whatever I'll say it again. In the previous posts I made, one of my arguments was that it would make the game less fun. Mafia is supposed to be about digging up clues and dirt on people, convincing your theory is right to other people, and having fun in general. These kind of games can become epic and fun to read, but if you use a cheap win you will lose all of that. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:32 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, good joke I guess, I didn't fully understand how my posts don't have quality. (If your speaking about my previous one liner then I didn't really have much to respond to.) I'll be looking forward to it. For the spreadsheet thing, to bad you didn't go through with it, I guess it's a thing for people with a lot of time. As for the information gathering point, I actually see a big difference. You could, of course keep track of all these people, get info, and guess who's who, that's what I'm saying you should do. Doing your own investigative work and then comparing answers with someone else is what I think the most exciting part of this game is. However, telling everyone to PM their roles to you, if you can combine that with your list effectively, you own all. Not only will you have all of the special roles in due time, you will also have an abridged list of suspects, and all the detectives at your disposal. Using detectives to check your suspects and Vigilantes to kill them is like the ultimate counter-mafia fighting force! Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:42 French_Toast wrote: True, but that is why I am attracted to this game so. You have lots of time to keep track of everything and to determine clues. However the down side to this is that there are so many people that it is a guessing game most of the time, if people actually take the challenge to do all of this investigating then they will have fun and dominate. Yes, at first. But this plan is not instantly put into place, after around 2 days people have to login to vote or else they are breaking the rule that you have to vote and will be kicked, then the role will be assigned to another and they will confirm. After a while you will the info. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 08:47 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, alright I was wondering you picked shallow bay to talk about his mom, I thought it was funny because of that. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:37 French_Toast wrote: Speaking of which, why do we have to lynch people. Instead of voting only for the person we should also vote for that way we kill them. We could maybe shoot them in the head, inject them with some crap, chop their head off with a guillotine... etc. Night posts would be so much more interesting if we had a creative way of killing people. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:54 French_Toast wrote:Oh my, I'm famous! On a side note- Just because you are irritated at my posts doesn't mean I am necessarily mafia. As for Ace's post on lynching people because their annoying, for someone who cares so much about the town to push the self destruct button... (I hope that was sarcasm) Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:01 French_Toast wrote:I don't really understand what you mean by confusing the town. If speaking out against your plan was confusing the town then I'm not sure we have the same definition. As for being against you on every step, not really. I agree with you lynching Mandalore, that counts. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:11 French_Toast wrote:I'm not going to go into the details of why I think it's cheap again. Talking about the strategy being cheap was just my opinion being expressed. It was not my intention to cause confusion and panic (which I hope I didn't do), it was just to point out that it resembled something of abusing a glitch in a game. I have not yet however seen an outcome or jump in the numbers of mafia getting killed per night, so so far I have been proven wrong. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:17 French_Toast wrote:Showtime!, if you would like further discuss whether it's cheap or not, do not do it in the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:32 French_Toast wrote: And then we lynch him and he turns out to be a towny. Would you rather be 90% sure or 100% sure? Last game a lot of people were lynched that were so obvious and turned out to be towny. An example would be Dr.Dragoon, with the syringe clue, people were 99% sure it's him, and he turned up innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:46 French_Toast wrote:I don't think it should take them that long to make tactical decisions. Assuming the mafia are organized, the constantly active mafias are most likely the ones who make most of the decisions and just use the constantly inactive mafia's killing power for their schemes. That's how it worked last game, wouldn't be surprised if that's how it worked now. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 10:33 French_Toast wrote:I vote for ace to be mayor. Right now, he seems to have a plan. Even though people are constantly criticizing it, no one has yet come up with a better solution. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 08:08 French_Toast wrote:So far Ace is winning by a lot so to even things out a bit between him and Randombum, I change my vote from Ace to Randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 09:55 French_Toast wrote:I do not believe any of the suspects are mafia, yet. So until I find very convincing evidence I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:51 French_Toast wrote:I quit abstaining, and I change my vote to Ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:03 French_Toast wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalore. + Show Spoiler [G.s)NarutO] + 119. G.s)NarutO Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:42 G.s)NarutO wrote:Hey Please sign me G.s)NarutO Thank you in advance Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:35 G.s)NarutO wrote:Its just like real mafia, buhaha ;x Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 15 2008 23:47 G.s)NarutO wrote:when is player list updated :x .. I'm not in yet Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 18:02 G.s)NarutO wrote:random killing anyone? Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:This game is so difficult-_- Posted in night7/main_page.179 Posted in night7/main_page.179 Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:21 G.s)NarutO wrote:Ace could fake to be one of the good ones and immolate a mafia member to gain our trust... just a theory though! Edit: 2 detectives not good T-T.. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:24 G.s)NarutO wrote: No information mean random killing for vigilante 8D which could result in either a totally fuck up for the town, or alot of dead mafias.. or both :X! Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:We need clues @_@ Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 20:58 G.s)NarutO wrote: Maybe you sacrifice mafia , because you are mafia yourself and want us to trust you :D! @ the one who said the usage of knifes / nails etc is a clue to me. The last kills were due to suicide, shot and a metal thing.. not knifes etc.. O_O I'm not mafia, thats for sure! Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:below post-,- Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:18 G.s)NarutO wrote:Mr White and Mr Blonde are characters from the movie "Reservoir Dogs" written by Quentin Tarantino. Mr White is also called Larry Dimmick (played by Harvey Keitel) Mr Blonde is also called Vic Vega (played by Michael Madsen) ShaLLoW[baY] has a quote of Mr. Pink (also in the movie Reservoir Dogs) in his sig. Hm... I don't know.. but this could be clue :o Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:36 G.s)NarutO wrote:So we have 2 confirmed mafias, at least it looks like this :x Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 03:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:Dead men don't post here. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:11 G.s)NarutO wrote:I'm still pretty sure we should lynch L Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:37 G.s)NarutO wrote:The sky is clear the mafia is near. A murderous intend aiming for the innocent. We cosy the mafia along the spy won't proof me wrong. Plexa.. its sad but true, my spy is dead and so are you..! Posted in night7/main_page.228 Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 14:48 G.s)NarutO wrote:I missed the first 2 games.. so I'm 511... 2/2 T_T.. Edit: We better don't spam this thread. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 16:40 G.s)NarutO wrote: The only person that has a connection to the specific number two is omghi2u2 but this is just too obvious. I'll check that out later though. Posted in night7/main_page.233 Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:59 G.s)NarutO wrote:If you only knew what he can do to you.. You won't denounce him He'll kill you on a whim.. You're not dead yet Trusting you we may regret. Pretending to analyse accusing innocents to make the mafia.. RISE! Just some words I'd like to throw in here. Maybe you think of them while judging who is guilty and who is not. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:25 G.s)NarutO wrote: Well I don't mind being lynched, just as Plexa said, I'm innocent. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:42 G.s)NarutO wrote:I vote for randombum! Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 21:34 G.s)NarutO wrote:Nvm. Already voted, lol. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 19:09 G.s)NarutO wrote:I vote for d.arkive Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 21:02 G.s)NarutO wrote:I vote for SoleSteeler Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 03:38 G.s)NarutO wrote:I change my vote to L Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:My 2nd vote gets Evilmonkey! Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 18:40 G.s)NarutO wrote:I change my first vote to EvilMonkey and my second vote to Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 03:53 G.s)NarutO wrote:I vote L Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:44 G.s)NarutO wrote:I vote for L DIE. edit: I'm dead I cannot vote._. geez ~ + Show Spoiler [GeneralStan] + 71. GeneralStan Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:03 GeneralStan wrote:Sign me up! 130 people, this is epic Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:05 GeneralStan wrote: This game just got way better. Inc for mayor! Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:05 GeneralStan wrote: This is the most nonsensical argument I've ever heard Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 02:16 GeneralStan wrote:There is going to be so many people here. I fear for inactives/bandwagoning. Posted in night7/main_page.008 Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:51 GeneralStan wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:10 GeneralStan wrote:The Bodyguard Plan is well thought out and basically impossible to thwart. Ace, you have my vote. Think about it people. We don't know who is mafia or not, but I see one guy who has a solid plan and is clearly dedicated to the game, and I think he should be mayor. Ace for mayor! Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:23 GeneralStan wrote:The other candidates platforms in a nutshell: Randombum - PMed everybody in the game. Shows he has time, but does he have the chops? SoMuchBetter - PMed everybody in the game to show Randombum didn't do anything special, and he's funny. Almost worthy of a vote in entertainment value alone. Sonuvbob - Better than fakesteve. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT VOTE FOR SONUVBOB. Empyrean - "I'm a detective". Either foolhardy or deceptive, not my vote in either case. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:06 GeneralStan wrote: Lol, no I fully deserved it. I just think you're not saying much, you're only claim is to be better than FakeSteve, and FakeSteve was really really bad. It's like saying I'm better than Mumyung! whoopdy doo Posted in night7/main_page.031 Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:48 GeneralStan wrote: QFT Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:52 GeneralStan wrote:I don't trust you Empyrean. Revealing your detective role is foolish and it puts the town in a hard position. The only thing we have to trust is your word, and in this game, nobody's word is worth anything. I think a better goal for a detective would be to not draw attention to himself, opposite what you're doing. I'm not going to vote for you just because you claim to be a detective. There's no verification, and it would be easy for the mafia to throw out such a claim and secure a position of power based on the logic "We don't know, so we should protect him!" Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:53 GeneralStan wrote:BTW, shallow, I was just kidding. Though I still don't trust you Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:55 GeneralStan wrote:I imagine (hope) the polls will close sometime tomorrow, and day will follow soon after (or is it night?) Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:07 GeneralStan wrote:Wait up. I thought we had been using DT to mean Detective Posted in night7/main_page.036 Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:08 GeneralStan wrote:Vote for Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:37 GeneralStan wrote:Damn I wish we could get randombum to Pardoner Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:31 GeneralStan wrote:Randombum is ahead! Good work guys! Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:10 GeneralStan wrote: Concise argument against voting for Empyrean. Since I don't trust his word at all, we're left with a 20/130 chance that Empyrean is mafia and a 4/130 chance that he's a detective. Try it on. Posted in night7/main_page.053 Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:11 GeneralStan wrote: Quite high I'm sure. We really need to make voting mandatory here. The confirmation post is supposed to ensure that people will at least get out once a day to vote, but it seems some people confirm and that's the extent of their participation. BTW I think the latest vote tally is about: Ace 29 Randombum 25 Empyrean 17 Anybody can confirm? Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:01 GeneralStan wrote:I'm glad you were lying Emp Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:02 GeneralStan wrote: You just confused me :\ If he was a vanilla townie then we could have been wasting mafia roles, but they might have realized and ignored Emp. Or Emp really is a detective and he's trying to now avert attention from himself. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:38 GeneralStan wrote:Showtime seems most suspicious to me. The descrepancy between "drunk" and "sober" posts is enough to give me pause. The only defense he has is "the mafia couldn't possibly be that stupid" Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:38 GeneralStan wrote: And then there's this. The same reason I argued fakesteve should die last game Posted in night7/main_page.070 Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:51 GeneralStan wrote:I wonder who's going to die This is so exciting Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:40 GeneralStan wrote:I think Chiui put every previous Mafia member back in the Mafia just to see if we would notice. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 07:54 GeneralStan wrote: no way is mafia going to lynch Empyrean. The waste of detective checking on him is enough to keep him alive Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:50 GeneralStan wrote:Is there a pattern in the killings? If we can figure out the mafia's strategy, there's a chance we can do something about it. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:46 GeneralStan wrote:Ace, I voted for you and I trust you. I hope you know what you're doing. I vote mandalor (yes i'm putting it in the vote thread too) Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 07:04 GeneralStan wrote:How can we even be sure Ace isn't mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.113 Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:25 GeneralStan wrote: Dumb idea. I'm not going to go so far as to say you're worth an investigation (though I have my suspicions). The Mafia wouldn't waste their effort scattering votes on random individuals, putting themselves to scrutiny. You can make the counter argument, "But they would want us not to suspect them. They know the townies would say 'that's too obvious!', which is dumb. By any measure of smart play, the Mafiosos either voted Ghar or Mandalor Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:45 GeneralStan wrote:Everything involving Dr. Dragoon is comical Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:56 GeneralStan wrote: I'm encouraging anybody to use checks on you, but to use them on the odd vote stragglers is a sheer waste. As for the first sentence . . . what?! Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:27 GeneralStan wrote:Out of the 58 people that voted to lynch Mandalor, 10 are Mafia That's a bold assertion. I'm curious how we know so certainly, as we certainly haven't had 58 detective checks. BTW Good job Ace. We're going to win this game. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:51 GeneralStan wrote: No That's an imba abilility Mafia watch out! We've got you in our crosshairs ^^. This is so different than the last game. I feel like the town has competent leadership, a plan, and that this time the mafia is on the run. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:05 GeneralStan wrote:A hundred and twenty pages is a lot >.< I was so active at the start of last game, so I find it ironic that I haven't been so active in the game that I'm actually playing. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:28 GeneralStan wrote: I don't. Having lost the election entirely, I can see where somebody would be frustrated and lose interest in the game, possibly due to having no role. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:29 GeneralStan wrote:Wow Qrs beat me to it hardcore Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:12 GeneralStan wrote:What a great idea! Ace, I'm glad I voted for you Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 00:52 GeneralStan wrote: Seriously though, when is Day coming? I can't wait until Showtime is dead. EDIT: I wanted a popcorn bucket, damn it. it should be colon-pop-colon, not lurk Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 01:09 GeneralStan wrote:I didn't know about Chiui Get well Chiui! Your health is more important than Mafia, but we really do appreciate the game Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 02:51 GeneralStan wrote:Congratulations on the shiny new tank, Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:20 GeneralStan wrote:I've done the deed. Wurm will not live to see the sunset. I really wish I could have voted Showtime! though. What an annoying prick. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:21 GeneralStan wrote:Also, I want to say I strongly support a double lynch. I think we have strong chances of getting two, and if we can reduce the Mafia's killing power farther, we'll start looking to be in good shape. Otherwise, the terrifying loss of blues is starting to worry me. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:47 GeneralStan wrote:I know exactly what you mean Lysithea. There was some seriously funny shit in the first game. Dr. Dragoon vs Shallow[Bay] FakeSteve's seemy mayoral campaign, lynching Altheois My revelation as a non-player and subsequent lynching by Sonuvbob Fakesteve's lynching Good times, eh? Posted in night7/main_page.159 Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:54 GeneralStan wrote: ... Suspicious to say the least. You're dead this evening anyway Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 11:07 GeneralStan wrote: My thought is that that detective would have shown up red the next morning by a vigilante hit Posted in night7/main_page.161 Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:10 GeneralStan wrote:I vote Ace for Mayor Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 01:32 GeneralStan wrote:I change my vote from Ace to randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:46 GeneralStan wrote:I vote Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 04:19 GeneralStan wrote:I vote Wurm. Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 10:50 GeneralStan wrote:First vote Wurm Second vote Ghar + Show Spoiler [Ghar] + 126. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 12:32 Ghar wrote:Sign me up boss. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:40 Ghar wrote:To set the mood and get things kicking. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:37 Ghar wrote:Running for mayor if you lads have any questions for candidate Ghar. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:08 Ghar wrote:I'm running for mayor. There's not much to say in regards to why I'm a better candidate than everyone else , but here's why I'm not a worse candidate than any you're thinking of voting. The only guaranteed way to know I'm not mafia or anyone else is to have a detective check me up. But at the moment that's not feasible, so all claims of not being mafia are moot until the election is done it seems. I don't know any of you guys because I'm new. But that shouldn't be a disadvantage because people you know could just as easily be mafia. My thoughts on how to throttle the mafia, for even if I'm not elected mayor: - A detective should investigate me should I get the job. Once cleared that the mayor is not mafia, the detective should PM the mayor the role the mayor originally got as evidence he is detective, of course it doesn't make for strong proof, but should the mayor have an exotic role, then its pretty strong evidence that the detective is a detective if he got the role correct. From there a team can be developed, people with roles should PM the mayor, and he sends detectives to investigate them to be sure. Only mafia would fake roles, so investigating them serves as hard proof of their legit role, or will reveal a mafia faking a role. Sure this wastes the detective's valuable limit of 2, but its served a good purpose than a blind investigate once the mayor is investigated. Jacks should be recruited first. Once this network is built, then the detective privately relays their findings to the mayor who announces findings while safe from mafia hit so medics are not needed and assuring the anonymity of the detective. This is just a brief idea of some of the plans I have as mayor. I'm happy to answer any questions or queries. Feedback on my plan is also appreciated. Candidate Ghar. Lets kill mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:29 Ghar wrote:More ideas since the thread just got quiet Most important roles to ally with the mayor are detectives, jacks, vigilantes, and medics. Detectives and jacks for investigating roles. I won't reveal this too much since it could help mafia plan their strategy if they haven't already thought of it, but I'll discuss it further with detectives. Vigilantes for killing power on top of lynching. Though at the moment I'm still contemplating whether it's beneficial to start weeding numbers quickly, or wait until a relatively sure kill before attacking. Medics to make sure our jacks, detectives and vigilantes are alive. Vets are just cannon fodder I think, best used to dull down mafia hits per night. They wouldn't serve a direct strategy for weeding out mafia unless anyone has ideas. Thoughts and suggestions guys? Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:44 Ghar wrote: A few things though. Detectives can only investigate 2 people. That means the bulk of their work will be interpreting clues and vote checks. They have to choose who they investigate carefully, and I think it's best done with people confirming roles to the mayor. I have other ideas for detectives, but that's for later in case mafia picks up on it. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 17:01 Ghar wrote:Ok, Ghar will give the self plugging stuff a go too. My campaign title. Ghar- The man with the plan. 1. I'm on the forum when I have free time. Being on more or less won't win the game, so screw that. 2. analyze clues. Anyone can do that. I plan to do things that only a mayor could do, and that is co-ordinate a counter attack on the mafia, taking advantage of being invulnerable from mafia hits so long as my bodyguards are alive. 3. Everyone's dodging the possibility of being mafia if elected. My answer to that, you can't be sure of anyone. I'm offering to put myself up for detective scrutiny, and be lynched if I am mafia after I got the job. Not an ideal solution, but it's not like you could get a better deal. I can prove I am not mafia after I get the job when detectives can do their thing. 4. I reckon Fakesteve is an alright bloke, so I won't spit on his name. And it has no bearings on winning. 5. I won't jump to inane possibilities about clues right now because that's the detective's job. Having all the sigs and stuff available is irrelevant at this point. Co-ordinating are resources is better. With that said. Ghar for mayor I expect to be mafia hit/lynched very quickly if I don't get the job. But this is my all for broke strategy to get into the thick of things. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:09 Ghar wrote: I appreciate the the analysis. Scenario 1: If I'm mafia and I get mayor. Real detectives will point me out and swifty lynch me if I'm mafia. Have him lynched to prove he's a real detective. Once the detective is killed and revealed to be a real detective, then I'll die quickly Scenario 2: If I'm not mafia and I get mayor: Unless a townie wants to ruin me, only a mafia would pretend to be detective. real detectives will confirm to me in private. If I don't get a public protest. I'm clean. Townies wouldn't pretend to be detective unless they want to ruin the game. Real detectives will reveal my role in private and vouch for me with silence. Only a mafia would claim to be detective in the open and say I'm mafia. Kill him, and see that he's mafia, and I'm right. Am I clear, my thoughts didn't translate too well in this post. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:14 Ghar wrote:You'll be able to know if there are fake detectives if the mayor suddenly has more than 4 people report to him. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:17 Ghar wrote:11 my friend. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:27 Ghar wrote:I have a plan to find fake detectives. Using up their 2 investigates is not a problem if you can be sure the mayor and the detectives are the real deal. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 21:06 Ghar wrote:For all the people that think clues lead to me. Lynch me if you will, I've provided my parts of my strategy, a competent mayor can pick it up from there. Though I don't know why people are so analytical when it comes to interpreting clues in relation to me. But when it comes to someone else it's like, "araav can program in C++, works for me." If I get mayor, you will have direct confirmation whether I'm mafia or not. As for the rest, they're not offering any plan of action to prove themselves. There's a chance anyone can be mafia. That you're playing the game confirms it. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:52 Ghar wrote:No. What I'm saying is the detectives investigate me before they approach me. If I'm guilty, they spill with the town, they lynch the detective to prove he's right, I follow after. 1 detective life to garantee a dead mafia mayor. If I'm innocent, they find that out, then they reveal to me in private that they are detective. Edit: Yes, every detective would have to check me, but it's worth it since it confirms that they are real detectives to me, and they know I'm legit. Nothing comes without cost. Better to investigate someone important than random people. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:15 Ghar wrote: It offers more than that, it offers that you know that your mayor is legit or not. In the worst of circumstances, at least you won't have a mayor leading you in a goose chase. You can't be sure the other candidates are not mafia. I'm offering peace of mind that you will find out very soon should I be elected. In the best of circumstances, you have a network of people working together. Also I am offering a plan, which the others are not. Direction and teamwork is important no? Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 23:03 Ghar wrote: There are a few things I would ask them to do before I'd be satisfied they're legit. I won't disclose that at the moment in case mafia make a counter strategy. It's better than having a mafia mayor leading people to death. What I'm aiming for though is the best case scenario to set up a network of people with roles, that gives the best chance at winning. I'm not trying to convince you, I said already, all claims of not being mafia are moot. I'm providing a strategy to victory, because that's more feasible than trying to clear a name that can't be cleared at the moment Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 23:16 Ghar wrote:The same risk holds with any other candidate. I don't see how I'm more at risk than the others, besides some clues that are too early, and best interpreted by a detective. A less risk mayor doesn't guarantee an innocent one. A mafia mayor is better off dead. And an incompetent mayor is like he never existed. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:29 Ghar wrote:This strategy so far, is the only strategy to unite all roles for co-ordinated work. Or else it will just be detective working along and getting hit, they have less power this time around. The best scenario still outweighs the worse scenario. And the worse case scenario is no worse than if you elected anyone else. I stake my innocence by that strategy if people really want to find out if their mayor is innocent. At the consequence of what? Becoming mayor. There is nothing right now that can make anyone less suspicious than another. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 00:39 Ghar wrote:I will confirm the innocence of all important roles. Then systemically get detectives to file a list of suspects, confirm that clues point to the suspects, then send the vigilantes and jacks on a spree. And ideally with medic support. The detectives are my sci vessels, the vigilantes are my rines, the medics are my medics. Double lynches still require a majority vote which include the mafia. Vigilantes can kill without all that hassle, plus co-ordinating detectives, will let me announce their work without fear of mafia retaliation, and lead more intelligent lynchings. With your vote, he becomes one step closer to being mayor, for some small work like getting the profiles, if I was a mafia, I think something like that would worth being able to not only off the mayor, but use him to your advantage. If the list is that important, someone will do it sooner or later. Mafia can't do anything to stop that, they might as well use it to their advantage, You could rationalize. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:28 Ghar wrote:For people that might have missed my plans as mayor, the link is in my profile page. And I support Ace. Don't know if he's towny or not, but we think alike. So should I end up not getting enough votes, Ace would make a nice alternative if we need to combine votes to win. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:37 Ghar wrote:I wasn't going to speak out in my defense regarding the clues because there's no point interpreting clues at this stage. But this is ridiculous. Did I miss something, or did they change their rationale from 8 directions vs 8 people. to 7 enemy divisions vs 8 people. If you like changing your rationale so much. Maybe because they were marines, means they used guns, and Dapperdan was killed with a gun. So that must mean it links me. Because no one else could be linked to something so unique like the number 8 or guns, or where snakes come from for that matter. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:23 Ghar wrote: No, that's not it. Having detectives means I can verify vigilantes and jacks. Having detectives work together means efficient effort, each can ask Chuiu different questions about clues, check up on multiple lynch votes. Having vigilantes means they won't strike blindly, but with Detective aid. In the worse scenario, this applies to everyone, not just me. Because all the detectives will have investigated me. If I'm mafia, only one steps out and accuses me. If I'm the real deal, they are confirmed by their investigation, and then come to me. The detectives are not at risk. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:28 Ghar wrote:You've pretty much just repeated my plan. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:55 Ghar wrote: 8 investigates, it's unlikely the detectives will find a mafia with each one. particularly when mafia have 9 kills a night. What I propose is detectives working together, using their other abilities. To do that though, they need total confidence in the mayor. What would you propose the detectives do? Work alone? Trust the mayor without really being sure? Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:31 Ghar wrote:My plan does use up the detective's limited skill very fast. But I stand by the purpose it serves. Total confidence in the mayor, trust is needed in this kind of relationship. Detectives are unlikely to to be accurate with their choices this early in the game, but holding onto it for too long runs the risk of being killed before they can use it. I say detectives can function effectively without the 2 investigates if they work as a team, because being able to ask Chuiu to tie a name to a clue is almost as good as investigating if you work together intelligently with other detectives, along with vote counts. The network I'm proposing is more powerful than the detectives limited 2 time skill. Detectives have full confidence in the mayor, and each other. The Mayor stands out in the open and voices their findings so they're safe and hidden, and slowly the network expands as more people are confirmed innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:44 Ghar wrote:I voted for Ace because at the time, I had a plan, he had a plan, Araav had c++, Randombum has mass PMs. In the event that I didn't win, Ace sounds like a better leader than the others. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:10 Ghar wrote:What Ace meant was the real bodyguards would see it strange that they got a PM from Chuiu telling them they're bodyguard, but not from the mayor who might have left them out when PMing the bodyguards about each other. Ace's plan = Bodyguard gets 2 PMs, 1 from Chuiu, and 1 from the Mayor telling him who the other bodyguards are. The number has to add up, anybody guard that didn't get a PM from the mayor, stands up and speaks out. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:13 Ghar wrote:The plan is for Detectives to confirm innocence by saying nothing, and accusing by stepping out. stepping out to confirm innocence means being hit by the mafia. But if the mayor is mafia already, then you might as well go down with him. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:10 Ghar wrote:My plan is the safest still. The other candidates are probing for holes in Ace's plan, which is very productive, but they haven't posted their own solution. I'm losing pretty badly right now, but Ghar for mayor folks. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:18 Ghar wrote:Yeah, but what kind of potential mayor would I be if I gave up just because people have 10 times as many votes as I do. I also stand firmly that my theory though costly, is still safe. And I'm not giving up on my few supporters. If anyone else thinks I have something to offer, they'll see that I'm fighting to the end. I don't want to take away Ace's supporters though, they're good where they are. But anyone else that hasn't voted yet, I'm willing to answer questions regarding my plan and see if you think it's mayor material Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 18:08 Ghar wrote:No love for Ghar? =[ Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 03:51 Ghar wrote:In Australia, voting is mandatory. Though I don't have statistics on the turn out rate, Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:14 Ghar wrote:Now that Randombum is ahead of Empyrean. Ghar will swallow his pride and ask for sympathy votes because my ideas are cool. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:27 Ghar wrote:There's a chance he won't get killed. If he's mafia, he obviously won't get hit. If he's not mafia. The mafia might let him live, making the townies suspicious, likely making us waste a lynching on Empyrean. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:03 Ghar wrote:Publicly announcing innocence is a bad idea. You put one out there for the killing. And you're not sure he's a legit detective. Detectives should confirm by silence. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:44 Ghar wrote:It doesn't matter how statistically probable it is. No judgement should be made at this point at all. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:49 Ghar wrote:Ah yeah. Sorry about that. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:03 Ghar wrote: Yeah, my plan is to have all detectives check the mayor so they each are confident in the mayor, and utilize their other abilities together. The other skills are almost as good as role checking when used properly. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:58 Ghar wrote: The plan is though that detectives work with the mayor, if you were a detective, wouldn't you want to be confident that the guy you're opening up to is legit? Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:08 Ghar wrote: We're not, Ace is voted because he has a plan of action that will benefit the town even if he were say mafia. Bum is just voted to kick Emp off because of his irrational approach to being elected. If the mayor is innocent, then he'll straight out deny the fake bodyguards, thus we have free mafia to kill without any wasted effort. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:23 Ghar wrote:Why do you guys hold the role checks so importantly? 2 role checks limits the use of them significantly. There's no logic in role checking a townie out of a hundred to in case he might be mafia. It's better used to confirm fundamental assumptions, like the mayor really is on your side, and whether if people are fake role claiming. The other skills are still very useful. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:14 Ghar wrote: Ah sorry. Didn't know that's what you meant. There's so many posts going on, usually I just highlight relevant sections of a post I want to quote. Sorry about the confusion. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 22:57 Ghar wrote:Alot of people suspect me, and alot of clues seem to point to me. That's fine. Getting detectives to cross check each clue with me will take too long and wastes time. For peace of mind of the masses, I agree to be lynched once Ace has killed all people on his suspect list, and the town is lacking a sure hit. Reasons for this. I don't want to waste a towny lynch while there are confirmed suspects. But when there's no suspects, it's easier to kill me instead of detective checking a bunch of clues against me. But for the meantime I'd like to stay alive. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:10 Ghar wrote:Of the roles, it seems vet is the hardest to disprove, followed by medic. I don't know of any way a vet can prove he's a vet unless the town does something stupid like send a vigilante on him. It almost guarantees safety from lynching if they isn't any role clashing. When there is a clash, you have a list of suspects but it is unfeasible to check. Medic role claimers, from a mafia perspective, so long as they avoid the names they've been sent to protect, they strengthen the notion that they are legit medics. Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:38 Ghar wrote:Do you have any alternate solutions then? Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 16:52 Ghar wrote:The currently list nets half the Mafia. I believe working with that information is a good idea. Cross analyzing them will reduce the list down substantially. Working on abstained voters, you can't really work on them can you? Posted in night7/main_page.144 On March 26 2008 17:09 Ghar wrote:You can cross reference a fresh sample in the future, this split will also have useful information. Since Ace has surefire mafia targets right now. I'm uncertain about Wurm being a suspect, but if he has another situation like Mandalor, then a bandwagon vote will be best the next day. But that doesn't provide too much data, so splitting the bandwagon is better. When there are no more leads and the votes deviate then cross referencing comes into play. In addition, any mafia that enters the split bandwagon will alter the mafia count, they can be quickly isolated. Any innocents that enter the bandwagon without altering the mafia count can be crossed off as innocent. And your approach on the abstained can also be carried out at the same time as Ace's plan. I don't know how useful the information gained from it is though. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:10 Ghar wrote:Hey guys. How many of us post in the MMA and fighting threads? Would that tie up with the good fighter notion? Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:53 Ghar wrote: It's understandable that you're upset, but your demand is unreasonable. Chuiu doesn't provide for chatrooms. I also doubt that he would restart the game because of something that wasn't part of his plans. What he did was wrong, though from a mafia perspective it's espionage. But your demands are unreasonable. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:48 Ghar wrote:Mafia had their own chatroom last game. They might in this one as well, someone could retaliate and infiltrate them. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:05 Ghar wrote: Interesting bet. I'd participate, but I don't have an impression of most people yet. And I fall into the stupid habit of becoming suspicious of people who don't agree with me. I couldn't get my mind around understanding anyone who wouldn't vote for me and Ace. Well, me, fair enough that I had clues pointing at me. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:44 Ghar wrote:What was your original intention with the double lynch if the second vote is to vote whatever? More detective data collection? I think it just made things a bit more confusing. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:03 Ghar wrote:Yes, but it seems that Chuiu combined the double lynch list together. Thus in effect, nullifying Ace's vote split between suspect 1 and 2 if we are to have them both killed by the end of today. Because people who cast their second vote on the other suspect will have a vote in both suspects. If he only means to have one person of suspect 1 and 2 killed, then who's the second lynch for? I might be confused, if I am, my apologies. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 04:00 Ghar wrote: It makes more sense now that you put it as spreading the second vote out so that suspect #2 will take precedence over the second lynch, but then instructing people to abstain the second vote would be clearer, and less error prone. I kept thinking of it as 2 separate lynchings, once one lynching is done, the slate is wiped clean for lynching 2, but if Chuiu is combining the vote count, then your solution would be the most consistent with his actions. Thanks, that clears up alot. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:00 Ghar wrote:Ghar for undead mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:47 Ghar wrote:Yeah, I'm not blaming anyone. Now you guys just realized the mafia hunting, booze guzzling utopia you just missed out on. Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:16 Ghar wrote:I lynch Tasteless, he is mafia Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:26 Ghar wrote:Gomtv Averatec-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1 Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 23:34 Ghar wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 15:40 Ghar wrote:I abstain + Show Spoiler [GranDim] + 49. GranDim Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 12:37 GranDim wrote: + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. - One shot kill - targets the head HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this; His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess! More on the picture Its a crop from this wallpaper The character is from a hentai series http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1524,rfykgv,maho_shojo_ai.html (work safe link). However I doubt this has much relevance, unless chuiu is heavily into anime wallpapers or hentai he couldn't have made that link. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 21:03 GranDim wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 10:57 GranDim wrote:I vote for Empyrean, and withdraw my vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 08:42 GranDim wrote:I Vote MANDALOR Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 22:12 GranDim wrote:I vote for ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:38 GranDim wrote:I change my ghar vote to bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 11:15 GranDim wrote:I change my first vote from bumatlarge to ghar Posted in night7/vote4_page.005 On April 07 2008 13:53 GranDim wrote:I vote for Trancestorm. + Show Spoiler [GrayArea] + 107. GrayArea Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 11:50 GrayArea wrote:sign me up please Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:36 GrayArea wrote:I vote for randombum, he seems like he has a lot of time to play this game since he sent out all those pms to everyone. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 03:42 GrayArea wrote:I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:05 GrayArea wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 06:49 GrayArea wrote:I abstain from voting. + Show Spoiler [HeRoS)Pink] + 63. HeRoS)Pink Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 00:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:cmon guys dont put Ghar in the mayor or pardonner's position, he's not 100% clean, theres already clues pointing towards him that i ll not tell again. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:33 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Ghar if you dont know how to us properly quotes then dont use them. Posted in night7/main_page.030 Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:oh god, i was so sure i would be pointed out as Mr.Pink. i don't think clues are that easy to find PS: i had the same thing about SoMuchBetter im suspecting Ghar and SoMuchBetter atm Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: yup i think its the best u have found, and i also like the one about zeks PS: its Ablino not Albino <3 (Mr.Pink) Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Well even if empyrean is telling a lie he's more clean than Ace (for me), Ace was defending Ghar's point of view (another candidate) + Ghar have clues against him, and the mafia has probably sent 2 candidates for the mayor's position and that could be the reason why Ghar was ready to give up his votes to Ace Why would he do that if he really wants to be the mayor? Cuz they both think alike? I dont think so, they had almost the same plan which is another coincidence. So Don't start voting for Ace because he's accusing Empyrean of being too much unsafe for the town. -Pink Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:34 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Well having empyrean as pardonner might be a good thing for the town, if he really is a detective im sure he would use is ability wisely. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:45 HeRoS)Pink wrote:still the only way (if that happen) to have a BG killed would be to have the town to lynch one bodyguard (or by vigilante) since mafia wont kill the BG to reveal themselves. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think those 2 should be in the top list of who to lynch first, pretty good connections made by xdark.carnivalx 1-Zeks 2-CTStalker Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well i never asked anybody to lynch them, u are free to decide if u agree with the clues or not, if not then thats alright but at this time in the game we have to start somewhere. In day 2, if theres already a list of suspect then it would be easier to point the finger on who is a mafia and who's not Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote: This is the 3rd times already that im telling you to learn how to make a proper quote. Stop only quoting what a certain person wrote, Leave His NAME. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:33 HeRoS)Pink wrote: what I mean is that its useless to quote what someone say if u remove his name, it could be a fake quote just to fuck everyone, i dont mean its what he's doing but it would be better to leave the name in the quote to avoid such thing Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:09 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I agree with him he should be the first one to be lynched to see at least if we arent that bad @ finding clues Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Yeah like I was pretty sure it would happen, Ace isnt helping the town with that lynch Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Edit:im stupid Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:44 HeRoS)Pink wrote: to make him less of a suspect to the town? Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:36 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I agree, this game is all about challenge, it isnt a game about Lets ALL play with our roles revealed so that we can Kill mafia Easly, thats what is happening atm. people thinking that way (theres a shit load of poeple wanting this) should just not play as simple as that. | ||
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63. HeRoS)Pink Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:57 HeRoS)Pink wrote: What i meant is that its freaking boring, but thats just me, im still gonna play the game even with this ass strategy, but i wont pm my role and thats my right. u can put me on ur mafia list, I dont care, just cause im against the town's strategy then go on. Thats what happened last game poeple were being lynch just because some people didnt like them and then every other player did the same without a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:09 HeRoS)Pink wrote: random hit have already been done by Ace didnt worked well, I'm in no position to tell u another strategy since we dont know if our clues are good @ the moment since Ace didnt lynch that CTStalker or something like that with his first lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:26 HeRoS)Pink wrote: plz its HeRoS) not Heroes -ty Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:45 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Do you really think i would be that stupid to go against the town if I was a mafia with a mafioso in the clues called Mr.Pink? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote: If that is good for the town do it... waste of a DT if u want my opinion. It would be better to have a DT on CTStalker's case Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:57 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I have no problems with that just saying its a waste. Theres no way Mr.brown, Eddie,Mr blue , Mr. Pink etc.. Would be clues thats just non-sense Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:49 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Who says Mr.Pink was a clue? all names arent clues, its what is after the Mr. *** is the clue Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:45 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think i have already been checked Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:26 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Im God, So he's on the town's side Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:43 HeRoS)Pink wrote:wow you are defending youself as if u were the TOP suspect, we are just throwing stuff atm dont take it personnal. And theres probably something with the *face 2 face* from day 1 and*climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown.* ill check this out later Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:44 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well from names and quote theres nothing really. Omfghi2u2 and LenWe (quote = whats up) or something like that he's liek #128 or so PS: that just show how weak that clue is atm Edit: wow i just realise it could be me lol! Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:rofl, this mayor is a joke, theres like 6-7 hours left for the vote and still nothign from him, poeple will not check 1 hour before the final countdown to see who to vote, (some poeple will probably be away since its Easter's holiday)so theres a huge chance that Ghar will be lynched (which i dont think is that bad atm since theres alots of clues toward him) Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:10 HeRoS)Pink wrote: That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday) Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote: what i mean is like in a hockey game score is 2-3 for the other team 10 sec left to do, u wont receive another 1min by the ref to score the goal, it will end @ the 60min mark. Like this theres a 48h circle that should be respect. I know that im acting against the town, I dont care i prefer fair play. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:17 HeRoS)Pink wrote: U already know my Role , I did what everyone should do , i even told you what i did with it , so if u arent a mafioso u would not try to get me lynched EDIT: Why would not it hurt the town, What if I have a role that is helping the town? stop making no sense and trying to get ride of me, U never pmed me back @ each pm i send to you, im starting to get suspicious even more than I was. I was also the first one to point out that we should not be Voting Ghar for Mayor since there was clues against him. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:22 HeRoS)Pink wrote: So what? what if im a simple townie? they would be wasting a kill, and if I had a blue role they would try to get me lynched instead of wasting a hit on me Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:24 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Vigilantes can't kill on the first night no? Just saying that in NIght 1 all clues are against the mafia not against townies Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: nvm useless info Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:34 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well I was just saying that ace might have sent DTs to check some Player. Im not questioning is role (townie) Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:35 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I edited cause i reread the post from lucasWoJ, that says the Pm ace was waiting on are the one from vigilante, so looks like he have all DTs information he needed Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well my post was useless thats the resaon I edited @ first since it wasnt related to what he said, I'm trusting nobody except a few (not gonna list them) Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Nha you can keep doing it, I like it :D Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote: no, we should not end up bangwagonning 1 hour before, what we should do is to be sure Ghar is lynched and have the less number of player possible to lynch him and then, ace could ask a DT to check how many of theses are mafioso (I'm gonna keep my vote to Ghar taking the chance to be on the list) Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:02 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I was gonna say the same Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:16 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I dont want to search in all the 118pages but Chuiu backed what I said : Its called fair play, if u check carefully all I have said against the town it is all about the Fair play. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:22 HeRoS)Pink wrote: No i just said it was stupid (not that ace was stupid but his act, PS: I know he had to wait for someone to post his suspicions) to wait 2-3 hours before the deadline WHICH is known for 2 days already. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:25 HeRoS)Pink wrote: 5 stars Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: ROFL, i used to play a game like this in real life and there was a role which was the *idiot of the town* his ability was if he's lynched by the town he have another life :D i would need a 2nd life atm :D Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:33 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I would be so good @ doing that im pretty sure of that PS: I know that im not the best at expressing myself, english isnt my first language + I'm an arrogant person Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:36 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Im pretty sure if i were a mafioso, Chuiu would have made clues about my quote not about my name. Its like if (for exemple) Ace was a mafioso and in the Clues area he would Write *ace killed heros)Pink* that would be non-sense Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I was pretty sure the town drunkard was our mayor (ace) :D Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:46 HeRoS)Pink wrote:So is chuiu going to switch for the night soon, its pretty obvious who will be lynched ( usually there would be like 20 min left no?) Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote:well its 12pm ad im working @ 8am so well! im off , Please do not make a comment attacking me by the time ill be sleeping cuz ill not be able to defend myself Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:20 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I would check dr.dragoon + kuja900 because they are voting for each other wtf? and the game as just started and i never saw them posting in this thread yet, just my tho Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well thats what is happening with dr.dragon and kuja900 they both were in the first to vote and they voted for each other, and they both didnt even posted one time iirc PS: wasnt there a clue about a dragon? Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:43 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well if u check last game, Dr.Dragon wasnt really smart Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:22 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well I guess theres at least 3 reasons why chuiu might wait for tomorrow 1. Mafia might not have send their list yet 2.Paramedic might not have said who they want to protect 3.Giving the chance to vigilantes to kill someone if they werent active today Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:34 HeRoS)Pink wrote: You can act as I do to spice things up a bit Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Just an idea (for Ghar's group) : I love the 2 seperate groups but i think Shadowdrgn and useless should not be in the same group @ suspect 1 Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well I think shadowdrgn have a 1/2 chances of being a mafioso since its either him or useless Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:59 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Showtime! is either Drunk all the time or a mafioso Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 26 2008 00:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote: hum around 13hrs Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 11:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well im sure im in that group so what was ur first impression of me :D? Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:33 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I'm to smart to be lynched, Ill be killed by the mafia tonight Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: He's just trying to look desperate so that the mafia will not kill him, PS: I know the mafia's list is already sent Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:53 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Hey we are just having fun before we hear from chuiu if the day post will be up soon Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 12:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Probably when i was talking against the town, as the * we all tell him our role* and stuff like that. also that i wasnt really cooperating*** with him ***dunno if thats an english word Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:so i guess since shadowdrgn, useless might be the logic choice 1/6 now @ Ghar's list but theres one thing, the mafia might have killed shadowdrgn and Hope that we will lynch useless. Still useless should be checked today Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote: there is another Bum in the list not just randomburn Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:16 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:21 HeRoS)Pink wrote:yeah im an idiot Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:27 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think it have already been said after Day 2 Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:20 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Even if Lucas pmed Ace, it doesnt matter, Showtime! told Ace that he had been hit and saved, Ace knew already that lucas was protecting Showtime!. Theres no way Showtime! would come out of nowhere and say he have taken a hit and have been saved by a medic because Ace (not gonna quote what he said) is handling all his medics atm so Ace would have known that Showtime! wasnt lying (Ace isnt stupid, he would have realised that, 100% sure) Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:23 HeRoS)Pink wrote: hum... Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 11:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote: yeah u sould have sacrificed urself Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:58 HeRoS)Pink wrote:after all things happening in this mafia game #2, i hope nobody will be begging Chuiu to make a 3rd one, well I dunno what he think of all this but i would never organised another one for tl.net for sure. poeple are so dumb unbelievable Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 10:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote:well the head hammer clues could be relate to ace explaination : the picture just show the mayor : not necessary Ghar ( it was his but if u look more carefully the picture show the mayor with a *mafioso's head* Since no detective checked Ace, Im sure Ace isnt 100% clean, so is showtime!, if araav really joined their channel and the reaction from showtime! was so pointless that he had something to hide , either he's a mafioso or he's a blue. Just my tho, anyway im the town's idiot so do whatever you want. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 11:47 HeRoS)Pink wrote: especially when like 75% of the player has the same kinda weird that its not the good one, and u have clues towards you too watch out Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I won't say who but most of them are on my mafia's list Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 09:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote: He said he wasnt going to put more time into this game iirc Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 23:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well I'm suspecting Fusindf of being a mafioso since the begining, he's even in the list of suspect I had sent to Showtime! before he was killed. But i was suspecting him not on clues but by his play (feeling) Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 11:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote: LoL, i like the way you defend yourself, im not sure if ur mafia or not but u are most likely one of them just by posting this post, congrats. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 10:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote: You should follow the game a little bit more before saying stuff Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 10:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Well since Im probably gonna be dead tonight here's the list of my top suspects energies lostyourskills SoMuchBetter (is he innocent or is he still not checked?) G.S)naruto str Zeks lenWe Dr.Dragoon or GeneralStan (they were both idiot last game and now both so quiet (weird)). useless and fusiondf ( I was pretty sure he was a mafioso, but now i dunno) Ill check was plexa wrote earlier and try to point out who they could be and i might be adding names if I find anything. PS#1: The day vote was hilarous, and now knowing that only 1 out of 14 voting for trancestorm's mafia is even more hilarous. Day 1 we were voting for poeple without clues towrads them even if there was strong clues (zeks) because we didnt want to lynch an innocent townie (wtf???) and now because trancestorm was on both list, the town wanted so much a mafia kill that we manage to lynch a townie just because he was on 2 list (having 1 mafioso in each). That vote was just a *let's hope he's mafia so that we can get ride of those 2 list and have all those innocent*, instead we arent going nowhere and probably going to lose our important player tonight. Well at least I had a good laugh and it sure made my day PS#2: Im posting PS#1 in hope to get this thread more alive Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:So here's my updated list of suspects after checking plexa's post on page. 184 I will not post again everything that have been said (clues before) except for 1 person Eddie : zeks or LostYourSkills Mr.Blonde : Hotzshot King Brown Snake : I could not decide between G.S)Naruto (quote) or RowdierBob ( picture+quote) but I would lynch RowdierBoB first why? cuz in his picture there's 2 poeple staring @ each other and one who seems to have power over the other (mafia) + in the quote there's the word *forgave* and Mr.Brown is known to remove himself (not exactly) of the way when its time to kill the townie. The Wolf : SureSh0t, if he turn's out not to be the Wolf he might be related to the hammer's clue (picture) Mr.Red : useless (maybe, not 100% sure) Taipan Snake : str and there's the list from plexa that i would interesting Cottonmouth = fanatacist California Mountain Snake : SoMuchBetter still on my suspect list : Energies Fusiondf Dr.Dragoon LostYourSkills lenWe Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 01:42 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Ok, at first i was like wtf Enigma is Ace? but then i checked inactive player and found Siefu his quote makes me think he's Enigma 100% sure. His quote : He walks among us, but he is not one of us. from the text : -he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off -Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 20:59 HeRoS)Pink wrote: So I guess its time to lynch poeple on plexa's list With all the clues u have found lately i was sure they would have use the suicide bomber on you to get ride of you, but they failed and u have another night to catch some mafioso <3 Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:06 HeRoS)Pink wrote:would be nice to know who gaved araav the channel since he said he didnt hack his way into the it. Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote:and wtf? from the list of 4 suspects having chezinu as a potential townie more than the others, you had to sent a vigi on him? or you never said to kill him? Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:20 HeRoS)Pink wrote:well that means that Taipan Snake = d.arkive Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:31 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think i just found what u wanted us to find :D:D 12 = ABCDEFGHIGK [L] L is the 12 letters and theres a player named L without much information Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: could you check this one plexa It was on page 197 and i think poeple havnt read it. Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:41 HeRoS)Pink wrote: araav is a confirmed townie, showtime! said it before dying, theres no reason to lynch him Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well from appearance #2 the *demanded an explanation for what was going on* from the townie could be related to siefu's quote Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 23:32 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Joe=siefu? i tho he was Enigma? its either Siefu or MasterOfChaos I can't see anyone else being Enigma Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 23:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote:here's an interesting fact, Aznvaliance was the first to vote for TranceStorm (lynch) and now he's again the first to vote for SoleSteeler BTW : Since when is SoleSteeler a top suspect? Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 10 2008 23:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Same reason I brought against siefu look @ page 201 the only difference between the 2 of you is for siefu its related to his quote and you on ur name PS: I love how all the inactive player always came out of nowhere when they are accused but never say a word during the whole game Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 00:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote: But thats not the point , what you have to count is all the numbers written 2+4+3+3 = 12 Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I found something funny in the first pages ( I was looking @ what were Vharox's account ) -Chezinu + Vharox reason : he could be the jack telling stuff to ace but telling who have which role to the mafia (which is unlikly cause Chuiu would not have let that happen) And chezinu turned out to be a townie. The thing I found is that, Queasy was active in the beginning and made accusation he accused useless and omfghi2u2 of being mafia So either he was accusing his partner or he was trying to lynch innocent townie Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I agree , you should release the name But L should be lynched not useless Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I discovered another thing threw all the post (well i was looking @ vote count from previous day) and someone said ty to L to have found that picture of Ghar (which made him lynched) so I hope L Will Be Lynched today, theres enough proff against him and strong one (refer to plexa's post : 12 letters) Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 02:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: false statement, most of the kill turned to be blue because they are bodyguards otherwise they would be green Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 03:49 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think we werent looking @ the good thing about this caractere, this might look weird @ first but i think it could be true. What we are looking here is about some sort of * DeathMatch *. Explanation : Deathmatch is known to have items that u grab and hold+time limt,etc(everyone know what a death match is) -JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat -JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now -"there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" -JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him I'm pretty sure that this scene lead to a deathmatch. My suspect: Well I saw in a profile Quakeworld and wasnt really sure of what it is, so I did a little research and apparently its some kind of deathmatch which fit exactly what I was looking for. So My quess is that Spoinka is Copperhead or Mr.Black he's Mr.Black more than Copperhead I guess All that is only possible if quakeworld really have a deathmatch (didnt really done any big research about that game) Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 04:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Im pretty sure useless is innocent Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 04:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote: atm, you are digging yourself a grave, you arent doing anything good for the town, Theres a problem with the information provided by your jack but you doesnt say his name you manage to waste a lynch on a medic cuz he wasnt doing what u wanted now u want to lynch qrs cuz he said u were bad for the town? How good of a mayor do you think you are atm honestly? Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:27 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think what we are searching here is related to an animal. Here are my first suspect -Evilmonkey -Decafchicken The most obvious atm is evilmonkey since he's on both list having 1 mafioso but i would not jump to the conclusion that he's one. I put in Bold the important words Once again I could be wrong its just my interpretation of the clues Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:34 HeRoS)Pink wrote: hum tell me how does it not make 12 in both cases Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Plexa did count correctly in the first case we have 2 + 4 + 3 + 3 = 12 in the second case we have 5 + 6 + 1 = 12 Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: read what i answered to that and heres ur explanation Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:45 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Ok Ill explain it one last time First case : two knives + four more knived + three knives into each of his legs + three in his back. =12 We doesnt care about the 3 in each the important thing in this senario is the number Second case : five nails + a (one) nail + six more nails =12 the was about to throw another nail is like the 3 in each legs from senario one its just to make this clue harder to find. Hope you have a good defense against that mister L Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:53 HeRoS)Pink wrote: HE DODGED the 3 nails once again. same explanation as other number refused in the count Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:57 HeRoS)Pink wrote: u probably mean detective Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:27 HeRoS)Pink wrote:wtf Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:29 HeRoS)Pink wrote: If L is mafia how do fuck do you make clues towards him then? No quote, name mean nothing Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:49 HeRoS)Pink wrote: By the way just for your information, Plexa asked us (townie) to find something with the number 12 + plexa is 2/2 @ finding mafia atm, I just did what plexa wanted us , feel free to call me retard again I dont really care but its not helping ur case. Im not trying to lynch innocent townie nor trying to spice things up, I dont thing the town can waste another lynch Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 10:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Suresh0t is my 3rd suspect, after Siefu and L, all those things were said previously but the town is inactive as hell theres like 2-3 poeple finding clues and then we have out of nowhere (who doesnt post a lot) making post to defend themselves which is weird. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:24 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I have no problem with lynching Suresh0t instead of L for this day, but we can't let this clue go even if theres poeple who doesnt agree with it + he's on the list of potential mafia (10/37) Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote: They were from New104 who turned out to be a DT , lets hope ace told us the truth Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:22 HeRoS)Pink wrote: True and you (fusion) really likes number (%) Here's mine for you you have 1/2 chances of being a mafioso which mean 50% which is better than any % you have found yet Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote:We should not waste a lynch on fusionsdf atm Reason: theres no clue towards him, and both useless and azn seems to be regular townie I would pay more attention the Alventine,Imderek, and evilmonkey(my pick) Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 21:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Eddie is LostYourSkills , its pretty obvious Luck is mentionned in the first day or so and then its becoming an habit Also : the player that I'm trying to fit to a caractere atm is artanis[xp] pretty sure he's mafia Reason : he got roleblocked? wtf? why him he doesnt even post? + his name (artanis) could possibly be linked to a mafioso Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 21:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I dunno but it could be done now since its pretty obvious who will be lynched | ||
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63. HeRoS)Pink Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 22:21 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I just did a quick research and I remember having seen gent in a profile I would put amber[light] as a suspect to california mountain snake before ninja4ever Important words : bowed / peered Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote: still Eddie isnt Imderek and its Eddie who says that if i recall correctly Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:50 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Update on who can be Joe, at first I tho he was Zeks for the *with great power, comes great responsabilities* But I found another thing DTDominion : Dominion : Control or the exercise of control (put in bold what could be related to him) Well for me Joe is either Zeks or DTDominion EDIT : we can also add Grandim to the suspect list Grand : Of a solemn, stately, or splendid nature. (could be related to this caractere Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 01:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. We have to find someone who's Causing horror and repugnance; frightful and shocking rofl, i manage to find nothing on this except : So no fek (picture lol) Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 04:50 HeRoS)Pink wrote:well from the last list : i found something on dtdominion, Rowdierbob, so no fek + str could easly be related to a mafioso Im not sure if evilMonkey is mafia My top suspect atm are LTT and L : reason they both are defending L (with suresh0t defending him aswell) LTT could be Mr.Orange about all the screaming clues + L about the 12 clues Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 10:24 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Ok since Ace isnt helping the town, Im starting to believe he's mafia, he manage to kill a medic (wurm), now he's about to make a vigi kill on a jack but he isnt saying his name, and I could easly relate his name to a mafioso. Im gonna put 2 names here of who Im about 99% sure they are innocent -SonuvBob (first to accuse Queasy) -Aznvaliance (first to accuse d.arkive) Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 10:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Im 100% sure Ace is innocent but, I dont get why he's not cooperating with 100% confirmed townie Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 11:00 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I dont think that we will have 2 reds tonight, Evilmonkey's death is like transtorm death = hoping he's the mafia in the list but i have to say that I had found a weak clue against him. Now that clue I had against evilmonkey, switched to LTT. and for Siefu theres 3 potential mafioso being his caractere. Why is he lynched tonight? because even Ace was suspecting him of being mafioso. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 11:30 HeRoS)Pink wrote:nvm Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 12:11 HeRoS)Pink wrote: wtf im stupid tonight Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 21:21 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Well at least we got one Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 21:51 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Joe = ulszz Reason : in his quote he have * i need reminding* Here's what he says in the text (joe) : -(Eddie):We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner (Joe) : You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now! -pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it -I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" -he was supposed to kill you Anyway this post will be forgetten in no time, like all my others. But im 99% sure ulszz is Joe Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 21:58 HeRoS)Pink wrote: L, called me a retard when I pointed out a clue towards EvilMonkey Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 22:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote:what do you think ace of my accusation against Ulszz, He doesnt seem to have pmed you his role nor voted often Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 23:09 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I dont think Eti307 is mafia Reason : iirc, he was part of the mafia last game and he never said anything. dunno why he would do such accusations if he was mafia Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 03:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Seriously Amber is either a stupid townie or a mafia trying to either get Ace lynched or Araav + trying to fuck us with false statement. and theres clues towards him too Dunno why he's still trying to provoke the town with such stupid comment Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: The town can't affort lynching Ace. Why? because he's the one providing the double lynch and vigi arent doing so good atm. So why even thinking about lynching ace? he already know everyone's role and he already provide the list to other mafia ( if he's one ). PS: I really dont think ace would have bring more suspicion on him by killing all his dt in 4 days and theres still a Jack who can role check him. so it would be a big mistake, but once again we have other player to catch before even thinking about lynching Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 08:11 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Im never removing information from my edit : I have already pointed out in this thread that english isnt my first language, so my edit are mostly to correct grammar Edit : put thread instead of channel Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 10:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote: At first I was Searching for someone who was causing shock, repugnance. (So no Fek) But one word just retain my attention : Idle Why using such a useless word. So I remember seeing something about lazyness in a quote It was from ieatkids5 Quote : Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. We doesnt have really much information about Snake Charmer atm, but i would say its a stronger clue than all the others I have brought yet. Edit : I just realise that his name could provoke shock and repugnance Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:12 HeRoS)Pink wrote: There's 2 post i removed everything i wrote because : it was useless information, and im no longer going to argue with Ace and the other is because i understood by myself what I was asking Dont forgot the word Idle, Im pretty sure its the most important word in all the sentence we have of Snake Charmer. MidnightGladius is suspected since the beginning of this mafia game, but the problem with him is that he could fit almost all the caractere pretty easly, thats why I did say he's innocent. Just my point of view Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:26 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Clues arent that obvious Edit : Does are the clues that make the town lynch innocent townie Thats why i would not kill/lynch Lostyourskills atm yes the lucky kick stopped but he(chuiu) would not use the word lucky if it was a clue related to lostyourskills its too much obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:44 HeRoS)Pink wrote:What would really help atm is to find who EvilMonkey really is (caracter) Update#1 : I seriously think Mr.Pink = EvilMonkey Reason : just a feeling edit #2 : Ill explain only if poeple wanna know why Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 12:34 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I think Mr. Red = Spoinka Reason : it seems like he can't stand on his legs, always falling down Here's my found i made last week but could not do anything about that http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Spoink Edit : go see by yourself Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 12:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Before tonight ill do a recapitulation of all the clues I have found / made that could help the town after tonight (look @ what happened to plexa last night after he brought clues (targetted twice)) I hope that you (plexa) will try to work with your interpretations + mine and try to catch mafia Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 12:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote: yeah i searched for spoinka in the free encyclopedia and found that little pokemon without legs btw : that encyclopedia is what I use to find words i dont understand (for all my research : except artanis , can't put him on a caracter yet) Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:00 HeRoS)Pink wrote: HIgh ranked leader + a praetor EDIT : I remember fusion speaking about army and accusing generalstan praetor : the commander of an army Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well im just throwing stuff that could help if i get killed Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Rofl i was just about posting something about DamageControl Being Black mamba Reason : words such as Ease , Recover, stumbled all about controlling damage ( or not : stumbled) Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 20:12 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Just for this quote i did say that both Ieatkids5 and spoinka are mafia and L too Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 00:49 HeRoS)Pink wrote: wow from this post I could say I'm not interpreting the clue the same way lol Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Just pointing out that Mr . Blonde isnt EvilMonkey But DTDominion Reason : always coming out of nowhere and guess what a DT always came out of nowhere He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde reference to a dt again + like plexa pointed out , he always get close to his enemy same as a DT Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 06:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote: If that is true, I think he could replace SureSh0t as a suspect Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 06:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Why Ziel is The Wolf and not Suresh0t Ziel : German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target -Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. This include everything on the definition -You just need to hit the right spot Good aim Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 09:50 HeRoS)Pink wrote:god so long before the day post, I can't wait to see if I'm dead Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:37 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Well im watching montreal vs boston and the game is fucking boring Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 01:43 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Like I already said I'm pretty sure suresh0t is innocent but that Ziel is the mafioso about all the aim clues Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 01:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Hum that clue was pointing towards Mandalor, im not trying to say randombum is innocent but that clue isnt against him Reason : Mandalor : when the current leader, usually referred to as 'Mandalore', dies, the next high ranking member succeeds him in the event he has not hand picked a new one to take his place Posting that but i dunno if someone corrected him before me. PS: ur doing a good job atm keep going Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote:SmurfingChobo could aslo be Mr.Blonde he was coming out of nowhere in the beginning and was always like *beating everyone without much difficulty* and in the second part he was becoming a chobo, not knowing what to do, and wasnt doing good in the fight Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:38 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Since plexa said it was either you or midnightGladius (one is mafia) and that (i personnaly believe that midnightgladius is innocent but still could be wrong) Also the fact that you brought more clues than him helped your case and ace will probably send a vigi on midnightgladius. So I hope he turns out red for you. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 07:18 HeRoS)Pink wrote: It would be useless to defend someone who's goign to die tonight about 80% sure Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 07:19 HeRoS)Pink wrote: he probably can't say it reason : going to give to much information to the mafia Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:33 HeRoS)Pink wrote: like I said on the previous page, ace probably can't tell that atm , wait until the end of the game , like other regular townie Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I hope you end up being green , because you are defending yourself for no reason if ur mafia since u probably already been hit by a vigi Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Me too, I can't wait to see how I die, I hope you wont get vigi-killed because i think it would be a waste. Well if u are innocent I would be right, next to see if i was right is suresh0t, I hope he turns out innocent but I dont think tonight is his night (except if mafia kill him , but it would be a stupid move) Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:49 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I think UnsoundLogic could really be Mr.Pink (dunno if i said it earlier just popped to my head at this exact moment ) Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:43 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Ok , I found who Mr . Black is Il reveal his name after my post Text for Mr.Black Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Move to front + the smashed window(picture) makes me believe that + Show Spoiler + MTF is indeed Mr . Black Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 09:56 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Im not gonna argue with you about what you are doing in this thread. like I have been doing the past 3-4 days im just pointing out who could be who because im pretty sure Im dead tonight Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:03 HeRoS)Pink wrote: that clue is related to copperhead not Mr . Black Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:17 HeRoS)Pink wrote: yeah I should have wrote (picture) next to smashed windows Here's another clue against MTF * Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window * Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:30 HeRoS)Pink wrote: they could point towards both, like what chuiu did last mafia game, Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote:anyway lets see what happen tonight with Midnightgladius before doing anything Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 11:24 HeRoS)Pink wrote:so from that i can guess midnightgladius is green Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 11:48 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think Joe is Ulszz ( I have already said why in one of my previous post) and this could be relate to his Quote : Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding. I know its a stretch Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 23:13 HeRoS)Pink wrote: what about blindalbino? Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 04:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think MTF is the saboteur but thats just a feeling Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 05:12 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think MTF is the saboteur because its like 80% sure he's mafia and since plexa said its either midnightgladius or MTF mafia (100% sure) then he had to do something to pretect himself. He brought exellent clues (ex:blindalbino) and im probably sure he did that to protect himself. Because if midnightGladius turns out green then he's mafia but now he's usefull to the town so he might not be the first to be lynched and it would give the Mafia some precious time. Why would they try to slow the game by sacrificing some useless mafia? Well first, we doesnt have DT anymore, our vigis kills are really bad, and Ace is roleblocked 1/2 circle, so we mostly have 1 killing power per day. I think they will sacrifice mafia until all bgs die and they will be able to kill ace, so now MTF will be useless to them. After that they will be in a really good position to win this game. All that is possible only if midnightgladius is green Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:40 HeRoS)Pink wrote:told you guys that midnight was green... Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:46 HeRoS)Pink wrote:so if Mr. Blue is still there, could we say that clues arent related to a specific character? Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:50 HeRoS)Pink wrote: so MTF, L , Smurfingchobo and unsoundlogic are all mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:54 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Me too Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:05 HeRoS)Pink wrote: or they put 2 hits on the same person Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:14 HeRoS)Pink wrote:Would be nice to hear from plexa and ace Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:21 HeRoS)Pink wrote:california mountain snake is LTT quote from LTT's desc : We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure." from text : California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 20:06 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well if u accuse me, I can't really defend myself since theres no real clue towards me, but I could say something that you dont want to be known Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:58 HeRoS)Pink wrote: its pretty obvious why he can't prove all mafia hits, they probably put 3 on decafchicken to make you look less guilty Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote: This plan is bad , why? if plexa die we wont know for sure if they put 1 or 2 hit on plexa and if L isnt mafia , the mafia will try to kill Plexa so that we would waste a lynch on L the next day Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 09:28 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I think pretty much everyone is active but some arent posting and missing vote due to either hide themselves or cause they were busy one week with school/work or anything personnal. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 19:59 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I do agree with you , why? if L turns out to be mafia and since he's one of the player having the most poeple defending him he could be the saboteur The thing you explained about having 7/7 confirmed + L claiming to be a dt but failed to save someone yet. when empyrean died mafia probably put 2 hits on him to make it look less suspicious When plexa got hit 2 times I guess L was in the the medic defending him so they put 2 hits on him(but in this case there were 3 medics on him 2 legit , 1 false) And finally about the decaf situation they probably put 2 hits on him too for the same reason. So I guess for all those who are defending L you arent reading the thread or you are mafia trying to defend another mafia. EDIT : If we let L alive , tonight the mafia wont kill him for sure even if he's medic, Why? because we will lynch him the next day so they wont waste a kill on him. so we are better killing him now then later. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 07:22 HeRoS)Pink wrote: well its kinda obvious, dont you think? Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:29 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Are you even following the thread to ask that question? and why the fuck do you have to ask to be remove of the list if u are innocent? you will be removed when everything will be 100% sure Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 20:46 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for SonuvBob Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 01:19 HeRoS)Pink wrote:nvm I vote for SonuvBob Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 08:07 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I change my vote to Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 22:17 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for LoStYouRSkiLLS Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 04:00 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I Change my vote to Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 12:01 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I change my vote to xdark.carnivalx Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 12:47 HeRoS)Pink wrote: I have my reason? Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 10:27 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for fusionsdf and alethios Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 09:16 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for LostYourSkills Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 22:55 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 06:09 HeRoS)Pink wrote:second vote for Siefu Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 10:27 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I change my first vote ( L ) to EvilMonkey Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 16 2008 11:11 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 20:36 HeRoS)Pink wrote:I vote for L and Ulszz + Show Spoiler [Hittegods] + 15. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 20:27 Hittegods wrote:This will be so epic! Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:11 Hittegods wrote:Gogogo, can't wait! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:19 Hittegods wrote:Aww, but I was ready for my role! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 10:26 Hittegods wrote:Over 100 confirmed participants is pretty damn epic anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.016 Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:49 Hittegods wrote:I'm not sure about that either, having a DT mayor would indeed be benificial to the town, but chances of winning are low, seeing how many candidates we have running. At this point (sup tasteless) just claiming to have a perticular role is somewhat random though, anyone could just claim to be anything really. Still, I think I'd be willing to give Empyrean my vote. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:51 Hittegods wrote: How would you know they are actually DTs though, could just as easily be mafia saying "hay, I checked you out, you're legit, and I'm a DT". Given that would mean more than four people would message you, but you still wouldn't know who is lying. Not to mention of not all DTs are active, or follow the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:45 Hittegods wrote: Wouldn't that mean outing the four real DTs though? For the price of one mafia member they could possibly get a list of all DTs? Unless the mayor plans on doing all the investigation himself, which could work I guess. Also, even if Empyrean did a bad move and outed himself, wouldn't an incompetent DT be better for the town, than a dead one? Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:50 Hittegods wrote:I get that part, but if let's say five people message him, after checking that he's not mafia. Obviously one of them would be mafia, or just a really dumb towny, but how would you know which one without stating to everyone which five persons that are suspects? The mayor just saying "vote for xxx" could work, provided that the townies trust the mayor enough to be telling the truth. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:10 Hittegods wrote:I have to say Ace makes a lot of sense, his bodyguard plan would also mean the DTs don't have to waste a question about if the mayor is mafia or not. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:23 Hittegods wrote:This game is so sexy already! I wish I was drunk so I could say I love you guys. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 03:48 Hittegods wrote: Not to rain on your parade, but all countries aren't like the US. I know at least the last swedish public election had a 81,9% voting turnout. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:33 Hittegods wrote:While this is mafia, it's also TL mafia, so don't expect people to act 100% rational or serious. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:15 Hittegods wrote:Again, this is TL mafia, so make sure everyone gets exactly how it works Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:33 Hittegods wrote:Just let randombum pick the target and let Ace be the mayor from then on, I think he posted that he'd be away for some hours. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:39 Hittegods wrote: Hmm, I should have worded my reply differently, don't really want to come off as telling you how to run this. You know what you're doing, and you're doing it great. My apologies. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:09 Hittegods wrote: Don't post bait like that, romanians play this game too =( Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:15 Hittegods wrote:Again, one DT will say so, town lynches the DT, if he's legit then the next lynch is for Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:30 Hittegods wrote:Hear that, mafia? The bell tolls for thee Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:41 Hittegods wrote:We had a mayor last game? Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:48 Hittegods wrote:Yes, obviously. Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:16 Hittegods wrote:See you in hell, d.arkive. =( GL town, you can do this! Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 01:15 Hittegods wrote:I vote for Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:46 Hittegods wrote:I vote Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 05:44 Hittegods wrote:I vote for wurm and abstain my second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:59 Hittegods wrote:I vote for Trancestorm. + Show Spoiler [Hollander] + 73. Hollander Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:19 Hollander wrote:Was thinkin about this clue.. Mr. Blonde "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." and who it might fit. Well, meta posted earlier that it might be Lysithea.. Well, scandinavians are known to be blonde - so that's twice for Lyset( ).. As for other scandinavians registered, we have http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Joxxor http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Jtan http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Supah http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Korvspad http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods and http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hollander - which is me The only one's who have any(as I can see) connection with the phrase 'they came out of nowhere', would be Lysithea(with Muhammad Ali's bees) and norwegians - as (mostly norwegian)vikings were known to 'come out of nowhere' and raid upon the english villages and cities - Supah and me. Out of those two, I only know Lysithea enough to know he's dumb as an unshoed horses hoof which only underlines him being Mr. Blonde, hehe Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:00 Hollander wrote: Eddie and Joe seem quite friendly.. Also, Eddie is a leader figure who're helpful, protecting and kind towards his peers, but ruthless when it hits the fan. Sound like anyone we know? Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:30 Hollander wrote: I was thinking the same thing.. To further accentuate this link, death is often considered as an eternal sleep.. (I noticed the same thing when I were reading through and lookin at profiles) A Gladius is a sword(a greek/roman short (and fairly broad) sword, to be precise)(which someone has already pointed out, of course >.< ) Just giving further thoughts into these two :> Also, about the electrical stuff, just gonna make a dumb example. Empyrean, whom everyone has noticed and are unsure about: EMP = Electro Magnetic Pulse, and every internet geek(especially SC fans) should know what that does.. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:15 Hollander wrote:If Ghar hasn't posted anything about being a martial artist(nothing in his profile, nor in the two posts linked in the profile), the martial artist 'link' doesn't apply. Only way it would apply, is by linking his name to the Naruto-character 'Gara' who is a ninja and therefore an abled fighter.. But this link/clue is just weak :< And just to feed the people who needs it with a spoon: Posting clues derived from personal knowledge would be unfair: 'I know his toenail is black and blue from bruising' results in a clue like 'and all that was left at the scene was a pair of black and blue socks' .. Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 09:51 Hollander wrote:Sure are a lot of blues dieing... Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 01:17 Hollander wrote:// I vote Sonuvbob. //scrub this Change my vote to Ace Don't need no douches //still don't need any douches though :/ Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:07 Hollander wrote:The gap has widened, so I withdraw my vote for Ace and vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 22:51 Hollander wrote:I abstain + Show Spoiler [HotZhot] + 4. HotZhot Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 10:03 HotZhot wrote:HOLY FUCK Seriously I think real life goes out the window, this game is gonna be truly epic, idk why but mynock has the face of a mafioso, iNc also <3 I survived last game I will this too! ROFL Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 12:03 HotZhot wrote:Damn this is going to be long, hasn't even started and is already 11 pages long ^^ Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 13:20 HotZhot wrote:Gogo new mafia game, I hope the town does well this one. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:44 HotZhot wrote:Well...Damn... That was long. So what I have to say about all of this (take my point of view with a grain of salt because im biased): 1. Damn you Chuiu for making me a townie and not something nice ROFL 2. I will abstain my vote because of the following: I don't have a record on new people, how they think and how they vote (don't take this seriously guys, it's just the way I am) so anything they say can be taken as in favor to the town or mafia. The plans pointed out are all nice, especially Araav's. Based on the last game (randombum was a vigilante and did what I told him, he killed imDerek) I think the town can count on him in doing the right thing, that's IF he's not mafia. Anyway as I said im not voting because of the clues are far too vague, although I like some leads. P.S: Empyrean that move of yours... it's LOL P.S2: Ace you seem to want the mayor position alot, I wonder why... Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:48 HotZhot wrote:He is the new Tracil IMO, are you Tracil Ace? would fit if he got mafia rol, lol Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:49 HotZhot wrote:Man this game rules, gogo zergling Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:00 HotZhot wrote:Hot_Bid give it up you have uncovered yourself as mafia, ban=hit IMO, kggnore Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:11 HotZhot wrote:I'm concerned of how rapidly those 2 achieved so many votes, empyrean I can understand but Ace... nothing against you mate. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:34 HotZhot wrote:You guys are a lot like FS and Tracil rofl Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:32 HotZhot wrote:I think people running for mayor should state who are they lynching as their first act. It is very important to discuss it because we don't want another FS doing whatever he wants. (although I have to admit it was a lot of lol) Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:56 HotZhot wrote: Why? I voted for FS for the pure roflness of it, the game ended so much more entertaining because of it. Posted in night7/main_page.050 Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:45 HotZhot wrote:Still many people inactive, I hope the important roles are all playing actively Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 03:37 HotZhot wrote: It's actually better than any other election process in the world :D Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:45 HotZhot wrote: Yeah, should have said most, because they usually range in the 40-50s Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 13:04 HotZhot wrote:What if i decide to vote for randombum? just to make him mayor and he can select someone to lynch first? Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:06 HotZhot wrote:if so I will just for the heck of it, gogo vigilante ownage Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:09 HotZhot wrote:Ahh ok gogo opening speech then! Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:13 HotZhot wrote:nice marine you got there random Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:24 HotZhot wrote:Who are you lynching? Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 HotZhot wrote:Nooo no zergs Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:34 HotZhot wrote: Ok FakeSteve, nah jk. Well I can see where you are coming from, I guess it's ok given that clues are so hard to interpret right now and choosing whoever you think deserves it its fine. Maybe it's because he posts so many good replays, if we lynch him he will get mad and stop doing it Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:39 HotZhot wrote:OMFG Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 HotZhot wrote:So much blue on his veins, must be all those replays... Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:48 HotZhot wrote:Still it would be better if it was just plain green Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 HotZhot wrote: Shh, he's getting more replays. It's good he got lynched so now he can focus on his real work. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:11 HotZhot wrote:Well it's not a good idea to post on mafia if you are drunk, gets you lynched very far...although it can be a trick Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:18 HotZhot wrote:You have? so what can you do? just vote right? if so that sucks we need the mayors powers Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:32 HotZhot wrote: You are irish living in Canada right? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:31 HotZhot wrote:LOL iNc be more active...or not Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:56 HotZhot wrote: Do you have someone to point it to? otherwise it's nonsense mafia-wise Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:16 HotZhot wrote:Yeah, maybe Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 03:03 HotZhot wrote:go day now plz Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:10 HotZhot wrote:I hate you Chuiu, nah I love you, nah idk Posted in night7/main_page.092 Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 13:57 HotZhot wrote:Too late to start analyzing clues, will do tomorrow for sure. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:22 HotZhot wrote: Hmm only simming through the list of names I see Ninja4Ever outstanding, because you know, like ninja skills and all but his profile doesn't give anything else away. Farfetched I know but damn you Chuiu for not letting me sleep! I will survive your lightnings! P.S: I'm Chocolate as you can see from Chuiu's post. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:36 HotZhot wrote: Isn't Mr.Brown infront? ok I'll stop now time to go to bed. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:20 HotZhot wrote:Nice work you guys, I did the same clue analyzing last game and boy is tiring. I like some leads people have but I still want to hear what does Ace plan on doing before I vote. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:36 HotZhot wrote:Seems good to me, where are you Ace? Mayor can't take a break from TL! Hehe Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 03:09 HotZhot wrote:Ok so I guess i'm fine abstaining for now. Pming.. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 14:09 HotZhot wrote:Ahh damn headache again from reading too many pages!. Still GG town for getting a mafioso, keep up the good work Ace. Gotta go study. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:37 HotZhot wrote: Yeah, what he said. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:31 HotZhot wrote:Go up kthx. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 08:57 HotZhot wrote:More blues, this is not good. Waiting for a shining new day. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 11:28 HotZhot wrote:Beautiful! Get well my man. Posted in night7/main_page.183 Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 06 2008 04:59 HotZhot wrote:Yay I'm a suspect, gotta keep more updated from now on. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:36 HotZhot wrote: This man is the most obvious mafia so far, I mean don't you recognize the red letters conforming his name? there we go, lynch lynch lynch lynch! Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:46 HotZhot wrote:This is going bad for town, so who should we vote for Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:54 HotZhot wrote:Siefu it is Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:42 HotZhot wrote:Yay and I thought that all the DTs were gone, haha nice work guys keep it up Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 08:41 HotZhot wrote:So Death note is a manga? meh, that's why I wasn't getting what you guys were saying Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 08:54 HotZhot wrote:Wow at least the blue hits have decreased, gogo medics nice work I pressume, so vote L and ulszz right? Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 12:18 HotZhot wrote:Wow wth almost missed voting Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 07:17 HotZhot wrote:I don't know who is mafia yet, so I abstain Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 13:08 HotZhot wrote:That's one nice vote count Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:30 HotZhot wrote: Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:53 HotZhot wrote:I vote for Ghar I'll abstain my second vote Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:27 HotZhot wrote:Ahh crap I didn't get it the first time, but now that I know better I won't complicate things for town. I abstain still given the recent turn of events.. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:55 HotZhot wrote:I'm voting Siefu and EvilMonkey Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 12:19 HotZhot wrote:Bah missed it by a few mins I vote L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [JeeJee] + 30. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:56 JeeJee wrote:ok, questions about roles (sorry chuiu ) detective i don't understand how do you get a yes/no answer to the 2nd question. do you mean you can ask "is this person a paramedic?" or "what role does this person have?" the latter requires more than a yes/no answer if it's the former, you could reword it to something like ", ask me whether a person has a certain role" also, if its the former, and you ask if someone is mafia, do you get a 'yes' if they're a saboteur or suicider? jack if jack uses a veteran, that stays for only the day/night cycle that he uses it on, right? else would be a little silly tyvm :D Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:46 JeeJee wrote:HE GOT MY HOPES UP I THOUGHT I GOT THE ROLE PM !!!!!!!!!!! oh well, kudos to him for a unique campaign at the least Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:22 JeeJee wrote:eh, randombum will probably get a few votes from people that don't really care and think he's a good a candidate as any. i wonder if chuiu is reading this -- should i bother staying up? will the roles be up in 40ish minutes or no? xD Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote:people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him now that his role is out of the question (WHY was it even in question? i don't understand, someone roleclaiming @ this point holds as much weight as something that doesn't have a lot of weight at all), what else has he provided? nothing aside from repeatedly self-contradicting posts. as for the other candidates..meh. i was keeping an updated excel sheet of ALL the people, who they vote for, who supports them, who they support, who accuses them, who they accuse, because it gets oh-so-easy to keep track of people (i was reading thread @ work and felt like doing that) then i get home and flip vanilla, so i suddenly get far too lazy to do that =/ maybe someone else can take over, i'll send you what i have right now (it goes up to page 35ish i think?) oh and it has the list of all the people, their sigs, and potential themes used for clues, ordered by likelihood, since I think that getting a list of clues that could apply to a certain person, then running through the day post to see if any in fact DO match, is a far better way than vice versa (running through the post to see the people they might match to) someone with a lot of time (randombum?) wanna do this? ill probably end up voting for ace or randombum, since at least they're attempting logical, objective stuff ,rather than pointless subjective stuff (im looking at you, empyrean and sonuv) Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:12 JeeJee wrote: dt in other news, vote for me, im a bodyguard. i can't be killed while i'm alive. can't beat this platform, there's no logical holes in that at all Posted in night7/main_page.046 Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:22 JeeJee wrote: Don't you mean the kal? (urbandictionary's full of shi---err kal!) edit: turn that frown upside down! and, to make this mafia related, due to a few sidebets before the game started, there's a group of 3 people (im 1 of them) that 'know' each other's roles! we could've lied of course, but we're buddies, we wouldn't do that.. i hope. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:33 JeeJee wrote:the thing about tying up mafia's roleblocker.. it's not like they have anything better to roleblock anyway. if they want someone not to act, they can kill them, and it's unlikely that they'll find out a jack or medic any time soon (and once again, if they do, they can just kill them) Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 08:01 JeeJee wrote: numbers are irrelevant, we have a few people on waiting list, get them in, randomly disperse the roles to townies (im just saying this cause im vanilla haha), and say the rest died in a tragic forest fire. no point making rules if you're not enforcing them, however harsh it may be. less dead weight for mafia to hang about in anyway (notice there's a lot less mafia relatively, 15% vs 20% so dead weight is that much more deadly) if you really want to, give them one more chance to vote in 2nd day, but with a 48hour timeline, that really shouldn't be necessary Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:16 JeeJee wrote:im pretty certain jacks have access to 6 rolechecks. however keep in mind they cannot use the same role in consecutive days, meaning it would take 12 days for all 6 rolechecks, at the least. after all, if the checks don't refresh in count, why would the detective night lives? hopefully chuiu can confirm, but i don't think it's a big deal to have a check every other day/night cycle for 12 cycles. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:08 JeeJee wrote:@hotzhot, the final vote count has already been done, so.. as for ace, looking through the thread, he seems to post at every hour of every day pretty much; i wonder if he sleeps? O_o still let's not get off on the wrong foot with forcing ace to lynch someone he might not want. we don't want the same shit that happened last game (i.e. a bad start) there's no particular hurry anyway, the day post was posted 45 hours ago, so there's still at least 3 hours til the 'ultimate' deadline. would be silly to do anything until then disregard that, ace is back.! Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:13 JeeJee wrote:@french toast, heros pink firstly - the thing about excel spreadsheets. whichever one of you mentioned it, the conversation was between me and ace. however since i flipped vanilla townie, i stopped updating my excel sheet cause i honestly don't give a damn (it's stuck at around page 35ish, the conversation took page on around 40ish). secondly, this everyone-pm-ace-their-role plan is just that, a plan. plans can go wrong in so many ways. how is this cheap? certainly if you argue that this is cheap, what about my excel spreadsheet? let's assume i wasn't lazy, and actually updated it. as soon as someone died, BAM i could go and see who supported that person, who accused that person, who that person accused, who that person supported, who he voted for, whether he changed votes, etc. With 9+ kills per night, don't you think that's a retardedly high amount of information? add in the themes and clues i was thinking of (another tab in my excel sheet), and you get a nice suspect list, that you can fine-tune each day, as each death gives a shitload of information to the person. i almost talked myself into getting back to updating this list -_-; both plans are just ways of getting information, which is necessary for town to win. both are within the rules, and so the game is balanced around them. i find it hard to believe that chuiu didn't take this into account. if he didn't want this to happen, he can ban PMs, plain and simple (like in tracil's game) seriously now don't be silly Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 11:13 JeeJee wrote: why would a townie mayor lie about being roleblocked? edit: the only thing that has me thinking is this either chuiu isn't that strict about making sure the sab tells him before day starts, or the first day is an exception Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:02 JeeJee wrote: i vouch for august ^_^ he's one of the group of 3 i mentioned earlier (it's actually 4 now!) that 'know' each other's roles due to sidebets from before the game. and obviously it's in quotes because we could've lied. i wouldn't want to be a buddy with a liar though. *cough* | ||
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30. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:20 JeeJee wrote:@august the person who helped run tracil's game is alethios, who is playing this game the person who said anything about martial law was only rts)nightmare and this was in the first thread, and he is playing. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:28 JeeJee wrote: personally i doubt they were intended clues (at least intended to be interpreted in this way) but you never know (no but seriously, i think it's really unlikely those are clues at all, let alone clues to those people, but..) Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:53 JeeJee wrote:i'd imagine mafia are probably using an irc channel for immediate thoughts and something like a private google group for people in a diff timezone or whatnot. that's what we did in tracil's game anyway, and it worked out fairly well anyway the day post being up has probably nothing to do with chuiu, he has to get all the night actions (more than just mafia) in before even thinking about what happens. and it's not like once they're in he instantly has a day post ready to go. have some patience ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 03:58 JeeJee wrote: we already have a set of clues in the day1 post day 2 is gonna have the 2nd set of clues :O Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 07:48 JeeJee wrote: you sound awfully calm for a townie. maybe you know something we dont. and only way that happens is you being mafia. wanna come clean? Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 10:54 JeeJee wrote: i don't get it O_o anyway, could we get a time estiamte from chuiu? where are we at, night actions being sent, night actions received creating clues, clues done creating daypost, or..? i'm juts wondering :O Posted in night7/main_page.091 Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote:a recurring statement: day1 day2 unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho) nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares) omfghi2u2 - name LemMe - quote, what's up Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:47 JeeJee wrote:ah yes it could be you too, good catch. also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:07 JeeJee wrote: .....yeeeees and? how does this justify araav wanting to know the identity of the medic Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:39 JeeJee wrote: it actually linked to fen and his birthday as far as i understand, the only recurring thing from last game that didn't point to anyone was people kicking stuff, so i wouldn't look too deep into any of those clues. chuiu himself said something along those lines "i like people kicking shit. it wasn't a clue that pointed to anyone else though" Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:47 JeeJee wrote: have you went through the timestamps of his posts in this thread to confirm he's usually online at this time? if so, that's pretty damning evidence Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:52 JeeJee wrote: well it's not like it takes any longer than a few minutes ... it would be pretty stupid to be waiting on a reply from someone who's sleeping from say 2;00KST to 10;00KST Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:55 JeeJee wrote: well as long as you feel the time is reasonable enough -- keep in mind it is easter weekend anyway, make a statement or something at the latest by 10:00KST or so, that'll give us like ~3 hours to get the votes in; should be fine Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:02 JeeJee wrote: no what? it's statements like these that make no sense at all. you're making me waste a post and clutter up the thread. jeez Posted in night7/main_page.113 Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:20 JeeJee wrote: the original post really isn't there for show you know Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:33 JeeJee wrote: .. if they can vote it would be counted. otherwise it would be a little stupid since anyone can just go "oh hey this person said he voted for X but he's not on the list" aaaaaand there's a reason detectives have an ability to see how many mafia voted for a person to get lynched =/ Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:46 JeeJee wrote: it's actually not, assuming chuiu/dapperdan follows through with his promise and gets rid of them, as well as passing on their roles before night3 (after getting the waitlisted guys in, obviously). and maybe ban them from next game (if there is one) as well (just a 1-game ban, don't go nuts here) as for the 3 spammers in this thread (aznval, showtime, shallow), stfu. a lot of people don't want to read that shit. annnnnnnd finally, for the person who suggested we only investigate one half of the groups (since the other could be deduced from the total) -- dont. this is good assuming everyone votes, and the people who didn't previously vote also dont' vote. if this could be guaranteed, there would be a better course of action anyway (virtual splits), but since it's not a guarantee at all, both sides must still be investigated. the good thing about doing this, is that it doesn't matter whether you want to follow along with the plan or not, because you're still following along with it. we know what the total mafia #s have to add up to, and if the people who were told to vote for someone choose to abstain, or in fact choose to vote for someone else entirely, they will affect the total, and in fact, reveal their alignment. obv there's a loophole to this (at least it looks like it - thankfully, there's a somewhat obvious prevention mechanism as well) Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:45 JeeJee wrote:whoops, sorry bout that ace. still, i can't imagine mafia didn't think of that, they'd have to be pretty retarded, and if that's the case, saying that won't help them anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 12:32 JeeJee wrote: dont worry most of it is spam from people who keep telling others to stop spamming. ahh the irony. anyway, i dont think today's 48hr thing is going to be held up, haven't heard a word from chuiu, and day posts usually take a while to write.. it's a shame -- i'm not even sure where dapperdan is so i don't think we have a backup either? hmm Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 08:49 JeeJee wrote: chuiu! are you planning on kicking the people who haven't voted in day2 and day1? as in, no more chances, bye bye to them, get people from waiting list in? Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:58 JeeJee wrote: it's fine, i wouldn't want to seem like im rushing you because i'm really not. i'd rather wait another 24hr & have the people kicked out, although i suppose you can do that after day breaks as well. no hurry in any case, you've got slightly more important things on your plate Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:34 JeeJee wrote:anyone else F5'ing this like mad? xD Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:36 JeeJee wrote:fuckers. time to read the rest of the post Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:38 JeeJee wrote: looks like a medic, detective, and something else. what the fuck mafia's pretty good at hitting blues. anyway last post.. edit: i always seem to put up a good fight tho. cheers chuiu! xD Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 09:04 JeeJee wrote: out of curiosity, will you enforce this rule? just wondering since uh, you didn't at all enforce your 'be active or get banned' rule. just curious. edit: well apparently there was no consequence for not following the 'be active' rule, so technically you did enforce it. my bad. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 09:34 JeeJee wrote: yes well if you're not posting or voting, you can hardly be considered active now can you. even doing just one isn't enough imo, both should be present. anyway this is a sidetrack, i trust chuiu to figure something out for next game if there is one Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:31 JeeJee wrote:i vote for randombum + Show Spoiler + stop voting for empyrean dammit, what has he done for you lately apart from manipulating you to trust him to gain a position of power and post a bunch of self-contradicting posts in the mafia thread? sounds like pure townie behavior right Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:42 JeeJee wrote:vote for mandalor + Show Spoiler [Jimtudor] + 92. Jimtudor Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:30 Jimtudor wrote:Hmm, having more time to read Ace's plans for action, he would be a better mayor. But I believe Empryeam in the role of a pardoner would be good so I will keep my vote. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 21:55 Jimtudor wrote:Hopefully, I think at least one of the vigilantes should get ghar, but than they should coordinate with Ace so no more than one vigilante targets him. But then knowing ace, he has this all thought out already. Too good. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 04:20 Jimtudor wrote:Having a plan isn't boring. When there are over a hundred people playing, that is the only chance of success townies can have. Although I believe most people posting are innocent, it's a pretty high probability there are some mafia that have been flaming the arguments in the hopes that frustrated townies will not cooperate. They know they are fighting a losing battle if the town continues to show such unity as exemplified in the first day. Let's build on that. Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 23:21 Jimtudor wrote:Ace is not mafia. Did you believe Empryeam would not have followed through the plan to check if Ace was mafia. Of course he would, especially so cause he was also a mayoral candidate and he would be rightfully suspicious. And he wouldn't be scared to say it in public. Not one detective said anything, and he got full cooperation from them. The only logical conclusions is they all checked him up first thing and he is clean. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 02:51 Jimtudor wrote:hmm, I think next game detectives should be able to check how many mafia abstained. Or can they do check now? Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:41 Jimtudor wrote:So why are people voting for Trancestorm. What's the clues that are linked to him? Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 09:54 Jimtudor wrote:Sorry, I was gone for a couple of days. Gj town....Well, learned I am a suspect, not good. Seems like I will have to argue my innocence after this. I mean all mafia is physical, when was there one that isn't. I seriously had no idea my name is a minor leaguer hockey player. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 02:52 Jimtudor wrote:Well I would like to defend myself properly. First although MTF's logic and clues that link to most people are well thought out and reasonable. His link to my name is the weakest. If Chiu wanted to use my name which happens to be an unknown minor leaguer hockey player as a clue. It is easy. All he needs to do is say there was some ice around, the ground was slippery, it was freezing cold or Mr. blonde wacked the person in the head with a stick. Being physical is not a reasonable clue, 95% of the writeups in this game and the last game and probabably any mafia game, the mafia are overly physical and aggresive in their kills. That's why they are the mafia. Or if Chiu wanted to use my last name as a clue. All he needs to do is maybe talk about some kinda of crown lying somewhere, or have one of the mafia act in a noble or dignified manner, or recite a speech from a shakespearan play said by the royal family. Not some kind of weird religion switching random trivia that is at best a long, long stretch. Chiu's clues are a lot more direct, and I am innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 03:17 Jimtudor wrote:Hmm, I missed your new conclusion MTF. I am glad you also recognize your clues to me aren't strong. Well, to your fast and coming out of nowhere accusations, I would just say isn't that also another common mafia characteristic. Anyways, I wouldn't say hockey players come out of nowhere. Hockey players aren't ninjas. Refs are watching, millions are watching and even the players usually are able to brace themselves for a check a hit because they are always aware. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 14:01 Jimtudor wrote:Wow, fastest night, didn't get to vote. Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:00 Jimtudor wrote:I vote for Empyrean He was by all account the MVP last game, and he could lead the town to victory. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 08:33 Jimtudor wrote:After reading the posts, I vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 04:24 Jimtudor wrote:I vote for bumatlarge I abstain my second vote. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:48 Jimtudor wrote:I change my first vote from bumatlarge to Ghar. I still abstain my second vote Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:58 Jimtudor wrote:I abstain. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:33 Jimtudor wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin. + Show Spoiler [JoxxOr] + 84. JoxxOr Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 06:46 JoxxOr wrote:sweet lets get started! Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:45 JoxxOr wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68196 Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 05:34 JoxxOr wrote: My gut says the same thing to me . Time will tell mafias Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:24 JoxxOr wrote: wtf? that would be the dumbest shit ever... And also, we can never be 100% sure that x person is a townie even if you make speeches like obama. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:52 JoxxOr wrote:when will the voting be done? Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:14 JoxxOr wrote:4 blues Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 18:33 JoxxOr wrote:I change my vote from Ace to RANDOMBUM for mayor Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 01:15 JoxxOr wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 06:08 JoxxOr wrote:First vote Ghar Second vote bumatlarge Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 07:05 JoxxOr wrote:I abstain from voting until further review (i'm lagging behind ) Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 20:31 JoxxOr wrote:I vote for evilmonkey second vote seifu Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 18 2008 15:25 JoxxOr wrote:i vote L + Show Spoiler [KF91] + 38. KF91 Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 23:04 KF91 wrote:I'll sign up :D Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 22:38 KF91 wrote:I vote to lynch Hittegods. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 03:59 KF91 wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 11:21 KF91 wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 11:04 KF91 wrote:I vote for L + Show Spoiler [KH1031] + 128. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:37 KH1031 wrote:Please sign me up for round 2 of TL Mafia! Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:17 KH1031 wrote:This is getting interesting. For some reason...I believe in Empyrean. I STAND FOR YOU EMPYREAN. if you get killed, remember that I STOOD FOR YOU Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:18 KH1031 wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 06:25 KH1031 wrote:Hmm... This is getting tough... Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:14 KH1031 wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 21:52 KH1031 wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 05:23 KH1031 wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 07:09 KH1031 wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 07:30 KH1031 wrote:I vote my first vote to L I vote my second vote to SoleSteeler [Edit] I have changed my vote: I would like to amend my vote to the following, as per Ace's post - First vote: Siefu Second vote: Evilmonkey Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 10:26 KH1031 wrote:I would like to amend my vote to the following, as per Ace's post - First vote: Siefu Second vote: Evilmonkey + Show Spoiler [Kau] + 125. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 09:34 Kau wrote:Sign me up please :D Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:57 Kau wrote:Ace: About your Bodyguard plan, what stops a mafia mayor from pming each actual bodyguard with a list that is something like: mafia 1 mafia 2 mafia 3 bodyguard # Each actual bodyguard would get a pm back from each of the fake mafia-bodyguards and they wouldn't know. Then once the mayor gets checked by a detective, couldn't there be fake mafia-detectives that state that the mayor is innocent? Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:09 Kau wrote: What I'm saying is that the pm is sent to every real bodyguard. Say there are 3 bodyguards. 3 pms would be sent out: Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 1 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 2 Mafia 1 Mafia 2 Bodyguard 3 Each bodyguard would then get pms back from Mafia 1 and 2 and thus are "confirmed". And about fake detectives springing forward and stating the mayor is innocent, the townies have no way of knowing who is telling the truth and who isn't. We can't know when a real detective steps forward because he could very well be fake. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:32 Kau wrote: Ace, I don't see how scenario 1 would happen at all. Unless I don't understand how the game works (which is a definite possibility), this is how I see it using your numbers. What everyone knows: There are 7 bodyguards. Only the mayor knows which 7 people are bodyguards. Now, we assume that the mayor is also mafia, so he can coordinate with other mafia members. Since he knows who each bodyguard is, he will send each of the 7 bodyguards a pm. Each pm will have 7 people in it: 6 mafia and 1 bodyguard. Each bodyguard gets pm'ed back by the mafia members (6 different pm's for each bodyguard) and so they believe there are 7 bodyguards. No bodyguards are left out. Each list sent contains 7 people. Each bodyguard recieves 6 confirmation pm's. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:51 Kau wrote: So in the case a bodyguard speaks out, we lynch the mayor? Then what happens when the mayor was innocent and he sent all the pm's as he should. Some mafia could speak out and we'd lynch our mayor? Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:54 Kau wrote: Ah, this fixes everything then. I hadn't thought of that. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:10 Kau wrote:Guys, the reason I brought up this hole was because I didn't know that the mayor could be proven mafia or innocent. Since Ace cleared it up, sending fake pms as a mafia mayor will just get them killed. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:30 Kau wrote: We would only have to lose one detective. Ace said that if the detectives find the mayor is innocent, then they say nothing. If the mayor is mafia, then the detectives speak out. Now in the case the detectives speak out, we would first have to lynch the detective to see if he's an actual detective or mafia. If he's actual detective then we know the mayor is mafia. If he's mafia then we know the mayor is townie. Hmm... Actually, what happens in the case the mayor is mafia, and a mafia-detective points him out along with real detective. Would we have to lynch both to be sure? Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:15 Kau wrote:So we're allowed to change our vote? Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:56 Kau wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...topic_id=67925¤tpage=18#348 Have you tried reading this? Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:44 Kau wrote:Yogurt, instead of waiting for Ace to post, I'd be interested in discussing it with you. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:49 Kau wrote:I think it'd be kinda unfair if the jack potentially gets 6 role checks compared to an actual detective that only gets 2, but I guess we'll have to wait for Chuiu to confirm. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:54 Kau wrote:Also, even if they got 6 checks, it'd be a bad idea to have them use it on the mayor because we could end up with a miscount and that would lead us to lynch innocent people. Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:33 Kau wrote:Ace, couldn't you have clicked the All pages link and then just F-search one huge page? Would've saved some time Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:34 Kau wrote: That would make no sense because if any of the detectives follow the plan he laid out, he'd be sacrificing himself and another mafia member for one detective? Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 Kau wrote:Ah well, it was hit or miss, what can you do... Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 Kau wrote: It's unlikely whether or not he's mafia though. I mean 1 out of 129 isn't that far from 1 out of 110. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:47 Kau wrote:So Showtime, who would you have had lynched? Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 Kau wrote:qrs How do we know he isn't lying "again" to save himself? Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:00 Kau wrote:Well we don't know that, it could all be a ploy, could it not? Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:24 Kau wrote:If Ace really was mafia, why would he be roleblocked? That doesn't benefit them at all since we'll know whether or not he's mafia soon enough. Now if he was mafia and is just saying that he's roleblocked when he really isn't, then that just puts him at higher risk when someone else is actually roleblocked. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:45 Kau wrote:So I suppose we'll give the detectives another day before we can assume you're safe? Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:18 Kau wrote: It does make a difference if townies have to pm because it forces the mafia to pm too, because ideally, every townie and every blue would have pm'ed Ace, so the only ones who have not pm'ed would be mafia. If we had it so that no townie had to pm, then mafia can just do nothing. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:19 Kau wrote:So HeroesPink and FrenchToast, how do you propose we play the game? Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 13:56 Kau wrote: So Mr. Blonde comes from shadows and flies. Shadowdrgn perhaps? Posted in night7/main_page.095 Posted in night7/main_page.100 Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 13:00 Kau wrote:So Ace, by what time will you be able to tell us who we should vote for? (approximately) Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 07:05 Kau wrote:Voting for Mandalor Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:31 Kau wrote:Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 Ninja4ever. Chezinu zeks rpf Hittegods KF91 str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast MoRe_mInErAls xDark.Carnivalx HeRoS)Pink So would it be worth it to check these people with a detective (asking how many mafia members voted for _____)? Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:28 Kau wrote:Do you have enough suspects to just split the big group into 4 groups of 14 or 15 people? Because the 1 out of 7 in the other "pen" is already a pretty good ratio to work with. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 07:50 Kau wrote:Imagine if we still had our two mad hatters. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 00:16 Kau wrote:Man Alethios.. If you understood the detective ability you could've saved us all 3 pages of junk. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:19 Kau wrote: I'm sorry but how did the town progress forward? Maybe I'm not seeing something but are we not still following the same plan as before you started the whole "Ace could still be mafia" and following the plan would be "retarded"? All I feel is that this progressed you forward to where the some of us already are, and that is trusting Ace and his plan. @Ace, why did you expect LucasWoJ to die? Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:16 Kau wrote:I vote for wurm getting lynched. If he's not part of the mafia, he surely is helping them (by causing confusion) more than he is helping us. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 07:04 Kau wrote:Ace, by do whatever you wish you mean we aren't allowed to vote (with our second vote) for wurm, ghar, you, or randombum right? Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:23 Kau wrote:You still don't have all the blues? Why doesn't everyone pm Ace their role? Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:28 Kau wrote:Well ideally, if he didn't pm his role he could be suspected as mafia. But of course many people have decided not to pm Ace because : a) they think it's a cheap strategy and will make the game too easy. b) they're a townie and think that it wouldn't make a difference if they pm'ed Ace. Both of which are not true. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:55 Kau wrote:Maybe we'll get lucky and all the people that vote for showtime can be checked and confirmed innocent. Mafia don't vote for showtime! :D Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 01:10 Kau wrote:Well, since the second vote is just a waste, I spent it on you :D Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:28 Kau wrote:We don't already have that many votes on you do we? Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:43 Kau wrote: Well when I voted there were only a couple other people on him. I suppose I shall go change it if we are at risk of lynching him. Posted in night7/main_page.169 Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:03 Kau wrote: Actually, even then that might not be a good thing. Say the split would've yielded a 1/4 mafia, but instead, with second votes, you have another 10 people who also voted, and 1 of them is mafia, then you end up with 2/14 and you get a worse ratio no? Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:49 Kau wrote: You're suppose to use your second vote on anyone but the original 4 (suspect 1, suspect 2, ace, randombum). I think the goal is to kill both suspects, so the second votes must be spread thinly enough so that this happens. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:40 Kau wrote:This wouldn't have happened if wurm followed the plan and Ghar didn't draw his campaign picture haha. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:05 Kau wrote:Am I allowed to ask whether my death was a random vigi kill or a planned one? Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:16 Kau wrote:I vote fusionsdf. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:06 Kau wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 00:20 Kau wrote:I vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:11 Kau wrote:My first vote shall remain on wurm Second vote on Showtime + Show Spoiler [Klive5ive] + 123. Klive5ive Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:46 Klive5ive wrote:Sign me up please Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:59 Klive5ive wrote:Fantastic! Let's get this started. Let's consider our strategy first of all. With that in mind I URGE everyone to make all their voting decisions based upon the clues and not hunches. What last game proved is that people tend to simply pick on those that make the most posts. Do not be drawn in to that trap. Our first task, however, is to vote for someone to be Mayor and make sure he is not Mafia. In light of the circumstances I have voted for Araav. There are 2 reasons for this: 1: He is the oldest and he has sick C++ skills Here we have 2 reasons to vote for him, that are exclusive to the game. That is to say they don't bare any resemblance to tactical play or just mass effort (like randombums massive PM spam). He just happens to be the oldest and be good at programming. 2. Because none of the clues point to him at all. ARAAV stands for Armored Reconnaissance Airborne Assault Vehicle. And his sig is: "Quote : The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all." Which is a quote from the Disney film Mulan. I have looked over the first post many times and I see nothing that points to him. Please double check my findings before you vote for him. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:23 Klive5ive wrote: I merely want what all Townies want; a Mayor who isn't Mafia. As I said don't be drawn into the trap of suspecting people just because they post. If you find a clue that points to me... fair enough. But there isn't one. The first thing that struck me when reading the Day1 post was the Quentin Tarantino references. I've looked through all of the player's quotes and none of them are Tarantino references. No-one has a name that is obviously Tarantino related either. So I guess that "clue" was a hoax. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:23 Klive5ive wrote:I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to come out and say you are a detective. Bear in mind if you believe what he says we only need to get him to pardoner status and he will be protected by bodyguards. Empyrean should hopefully get paramedic help on the first night if not. Then all he has to do is find us a lead on a mafioso. If he makes a claim and is then killed by the mafia we will see his role; this will only serve to justify his claims. I think Ghar is our best candidate for Mafia so far. I urge one of the detective to test this link on the first night. Pangolin I really think you are wrong, you said: "Eight people in his way, chances weren't good." =/= "All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" But you missed the full quote. Ghar's quote refers to this situation: (This is a direct cut-paste from http://www.nevadadailymail.com/blogs/stevemoyer/entry/16036/) "When the Marines were cut off behind enemy lines and the Army had written the 1st Marine Division off as being lost because they were surrounded by 22 enemy divisions. The Marines made it out inflicting the highest casualty ratio on an enemy in history and destroying 7 entire enemy divisions in the process. It generated three versions of a Chesty Puller quote. I'm not sure which is accurate but they are all quotable." One of the quotes is the one in the sig. The whole clue was: Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. He took them anyway. Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. So it's possible he made it past 7 people before being killed. This should DEFINITELY take Ghar out of the running to be Mayor, regardless of whether he makes sense or not. We CANNOT allow someone to be Mayor when there is even the slightest possibility a clue points to them, in my view this is a pretty decent clue. I urge all who voted for Ghar to change their vote. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:43 Klive5ive wrote:I disagree with Ace. Anyone who followed the last game knows that hunches are exactly what we don't need. The way to win this game is to vote predominately on the decryption of clues. The Mafia would be foolish NOT to run for Mayor. The position in the hands of a mafioso is incredibly powerful. Even if he carried out the "bodyguard plan" a Mafia Mayor would have great power. It is certainly worth trading a single mafia member for. The pardoner position is also very powerful in the wrong hands. Please don't vote for Ghar because the clues may be pointing to him. Also his "detective plan" if he was Mafia would allow him to kill all the Dectectives. I still like Araav's conservative approach the best. We need to wait a bit and have lots of clues to look at before we double lynch. But I don't like his idea of pardoning the first votes. Randombum is also a good voting option because he campaigned before the start of the game. I have no reason to suspect Empyrean is lying and he probably is a detective so he could also be worth a vote. Whoever you vote for, don't let it be Ghar. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:46 Klive5ive wrote: You say "their" like we worked together on our analysis, which we clearly didn't. Maybe his source was different to mine? Your argument is nonsensical. Another reason that you shouldn't be Mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:20 Klive5ive wrote: Yes it would be beneficial. The Mafia would be silly NOT to attempt a stunt of some kind. In a game this large, sacrificing a Mafia for Mayor is a worthwhile swap. First of all nice with the insult Ace, really mature. Then you go and contradict yourself " I won't debate that right now" followed by "please explain to me how if a Mafia Mayor carries out the BodyGuard plan, he will wield great power". I will answer the question, even though I think the answer is obvious. Merely because I think people should respond to direct questions for the game to run smoothly. It's most likely you didn't read my post properly, I said: "Even if he carried out the "bodyguard plan" a Mafia Mayor would have great power." I didn't say it would make him more powerful. Then of course being a Mafia he can abuse all his Mayor powers which to reiterate are: Instant Lynch when he is elected. Swinging votes towards townies using his increased voting power. Doubling lynching (he can declare when two townies are most likely to be voted), or he can just not use them at all, which is just as bad. It is probably worth sacrificing one of 20 mafia members JUST to get rid of double lynchings. Only the detectives will know for sure if the Mayor is indeed mafia and if they come out and say so then the Mafia take down at least one of them as well. I stand by my statement that Ghar is not a good choice due to the possible clues pointing to him, and his "detective" strategy. Now I also think Ace is not a good choice. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:21 Klive5ive wrote:We need to call Empyrean out. I'll start by saying I think it is very likely he is a detective. Everyone should be assumed innocent until CLUES or obvious circumstances cast serious doubt over them. The mistake made last time was to assume the people who posted frequently were Mafia, purely because they said things that were silly/didn't make sense. Just because people are stupid or play the game badly doesn't mean they are Mafia. In light of this the best way to go about it in my opinion is to NOT ALLOW HIM TO USE HIS PARDONING POWERS. By that I mean we simply state that he is not allowed to pardon anyone. IF he does, then he will be assumed Mafia and we simply lynch him next round. If enough people agree that this is a good idea we can get the benefits of a possible pardoner-detective without the disadvantages of a mafia-pardoner saving mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:28 Klive5ive wrote:double post :S Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:28 Klive5ive wrote: The pardoner is not a very useful role for the townies. We can't stop the role-blockers from stopping his detective powers anyway, so that point is irrelevant. That is exactly why declaring himself as a detective was such a bad idea. Also presumably a pardoner-detective would have both power blocked by role-blockers. So if he isn't mafia he probably won't be able to pardon anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:04 Klive5ive wrote: You could bother to read the original post? Chuiu: "Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night." As Pardoner is a role, and his power isn't voting. By applying Chuiu's definition strictly role-blocker should block pardoner. You didn't appear to make a point in your post. Does anyone else agree that we should tell Empyrean if he makes pardoner that he is not to pardon anyone, and enforce our decision through the threat of lynching? It seems to me that that move is beneficial. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:35 Klive5ive wrote: Well not indefinitely. There is only 1 saboteur. And he can only stop one role at a time so it's not that big a deal. Anyway, you still haven't said what you think about my Pardoner suggestion? Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:56 Klive5ive wrote: 1.) He has a 11/13 chance of being a towny (and therefore probably a DT), I consider that decent odds. 2.) Assumed innocent until reasonable doubt is actually a pretty good way to play the game, particularly at the start, and i have played before. 3.) I didn't say he was. 4.) ? 5.) If we managed to get enough people we could. You are implying that you think it's a good idea but hard to enforce, that's why I was trying to urge people to agree to it. I still think that the Pardoner role is dangerous in the hands of the Mafia and a decent way to guard against it would be to petition the Pardoner to let the townie vote stand before the game begins. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:18 Klive5ive wrote: I totally agree and have said that myself from the start. He should have lynched Ghar in my opinion. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:25 Klive5ive wrote:I'm still here, haven't had time to properly look over the clues due to Easter and can't think of anything meaningful to say so yeah... I'm reading it all though, GJ so far. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:22 Klive5ive wrote:You don't actually need to use a rolecheck to confirm someone. Just get them to lynch vote someone who no-one else is voting for. Then check the "list", which will of course be only them. Posted in night7/main_page.170 Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 02:49 Klive5ive wrote:Nice Ace, good job losing all our detectives. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:52 Klive5ive wrote:Due to his programming skills and effort I vote for Araav. But I'm looking at the clues right now to make sure nothing points even vaguely at him. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:40 Klive5ive wrote:I abstain also Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 19:03 Klive5ive wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 23:09 Klive5ive wrote:My second vote goes to smurfingchobo. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 + Show Spoiler [Kuja900] + 47. Kuja900 Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:43 Kuja900 wrote:can saboteurs and suicide bombers kill ppl like regular mafia in addition to thier current powers Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:53 Kuja900 wrote: hell w/ fakesteve as mayor they dont even need it he lynched what 4 townies and even got himself killed just as good of job as any of them woulda done Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:15 Kuja900 wrote: well really if you get rid of the inactives townies the higher the chance that you personally will be killed, but perhaps inactvies blues/reds can switch to other active ppl Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 12:52 Kuja900 wrote: imo potentially sacrificing x1 mafia for a chance to become mayor is worth it, besides i doubt it would give them away as everyone wants to be mayor, they prolly should just pick the most popular amongst them and they got a guaranteed 20 votes + the townies i say if they want it enough the mafioso can become mayor..........oso EDIT: he could also potentially hold is double lynches and make up reasons as to why not use them for a more oportune time, perhaps even have mafia come up w/ fake theories/support for certain people Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:49 Kuja900 wrote: bah screw it why not I would like to run for mayor KUJA900 is the name My Platform: To be more of a douch than Fakesteve could even comprehend!!!!!! nah not really but if you smiled at this even remotely gimme your vote -doubt you did but still *puppy dog eyes* vote for lil ol me but in all seriousness yal prolly dont know me but i have reasons why you should pick me 1. see bolded text above 2. Im on the boards quite often and can promise you that i will read through your comments and suggestions for double lynching. 3. if you play dopewars ive recently discovered the secret to ultimate power il share it with you in pm if i win election ^_^. 4. I promise to thorougly analyse all clues and state my opinions for you all to see. 5. I cant be any worse then that Fakesteve and he won last time So vote for me i may not be a bigshot mod or have an amazingly high post count but im a liquidian like all of you im from the simple folk not them big tall hat wearin 3k post guys and mods so if you want someone who knows your pain and understands your cries vote for me for mayor of liquidia. btw thats not to say i wont take you high post count/mod votes if your one of those pls ignore the paragraph above and stick with the 5 contingents lol Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 08:32 Kuja900 wrote:ace you are in trouble only 2/6 bodyguards left Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 10:18 Kuja900 wrote: just saying they getn really lucky w/ the bodyguard kills Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 16:26 Kuja900 wrote:I vote for Dr.Dragoon matter of time figure get this one out of the way Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 06:16 Kuja900 wrote:I abstain from voting will change later after further review + Show Spoiler [L] + 127. L Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 03:57 L wrote:I'll sign up : ) Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:28 L wrote:On the very mathematics of the situation, regardless of who you vote for mayor, the same 20/130 risk exists for all candidates until solid evidence from detectives is released (at the risk of losing detectives). Now, assuming each player has an intrinsic 20/130 risk, a vote for someone who PM'd people before the game began is a true risk of 20/130, since there are no alterior factors involved with his candidacy. Post game start, however, we can assume that mafia will field a single, or two mayoral candidates. If the number of candidates is 6 or less, the risk of voting for a mafia candidate from the pool is 1/6, which is actually higher than 2/13. If mafia field two candidates to split votes and force multiple detectives outing themselves for single incriminations, then we'd need THIRTEEN TOTAL CANDIDATES to produce the same risk. Either way you slice it, no proof of any kind has entered the game besides some very flimsy clues, The inherant risk of voting pre-game vs. post-game candidate are negligibly identical if we use a few base assumptions, but even those aren't set in stone. Essentially the reliability of the prediction is focussed on the reliability of predicting the number of mafioso who are running for mayor, which is really anyone's game. I'd assume 1 or 2, but it could easily be 0 or 3. Anyone agree? Disagree? Veteran looking to absorb hits? Jack? Etc. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:06 L wrote: Chances that Empyrean is Mafioso again are 20/130. Probability doesn't work the way you think it does. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:09 L wrote: Pretending to be a detective to oust a detective and potentially get mayor is massively profitable for mafia. Nearly any disinformation is. That's obvious. They lose 5% of their numbers for a potentially game breaking position and take down a detective if they fail. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:44 L wrote: Unless mafia decide that you're very likely to be plastered in paramedics for the first few days and then decide that you wouldn't be worth killing for 2-3 nights. Even then, that's assuming mafia actually believes your story. The entire Fakesteve 'attitude' was probably the single most important part of the townie downfall last game, and you've show yourself to be heir to it this game. Mankind ill needs such a savior as you. Taken at face value, your post assumes that: -You aren't lying about being a detective. -You aren't a normal townie trying to push your way into becoming the mayor -You aren't a previous high-profile mafia member trying to throw down a few high stakes rolls for big rewards. Since you're likely not mafia, just like every other mayoral candidate isn't, the qualities you possess as an individual are the most important, and I simply don't see you as having the right ones. Sorry . Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 03:24 L wrote: If he did, the only logical conclusion is that he was he mafia candidate and is trying to soak medic time and potentially get pardoner/mayor before being discovered for real. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:51 L wrote:so mafia only used/hit 5/9? Guess this is going to be easier than we previously anticipated. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:54 L wrote:Also: The medics on emp and emp himself will know if he was targetted, so the medics can pm ace to tell him if emp was targetted or not. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:21 L wrote:I didn't really 'drop off'. I had an organic 4 midterm of thursday night, and spent a lot of time sleeping afterwards. As for the smilie clue, people have completely dropped the fact that people who actually use smilies could be the mafia in question (I don't.), and the largest repository of smilies for posts is the mood section, which no one has documented, and thus is very easy to change. Just as an example, Here's a picture of Shallow, unedited from page 94. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:22 L wrote:Wow, i'm bad at linking images. Posted in night7/main_page.099 Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:32 L wrote: I'm leaning towards smilie usage in posts too, but its just an aside really. No one's really gone back and chronicled who's been using smilies in posts, but from a cursory examination of the first few pages, there's plenty of people who have been. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:41 L wrote:I hope i don't mess up my image linking.. Now that I think about it. that's kinda blatant. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:51 L wrote:If its confirmed, I'm assuming Mandalor guessed the role of the target wrong? If so, I don't see how Mandalor could be anything other than mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:26 L wrote: Beat me to it :/ Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:42 L wrote:Do you have a list of people who switched? Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:15 L wrote:Hope chuiu feels better soon. Tomorrow looks like its going to be more fun than this. Posted in night7/main_page.141 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:38 L wrote:I'm going to be without internet for a few days while I finish moving. I'm going to abstain now, but I'll try to log on when I'm at university, but that's if i have free time. I'll try to catch up fast. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:13 L wrote:Wow, Ghar was green? We had like seven thousand clues pointing to him :/. That's ridiculous. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 02:35 L wrote: Assuming the lists have no missing people, you'd be right, but since they do, you're wrong. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 10:51 L wrote: Yes and no. Some people are active, then drop off for a few days. Others simply can't deal with the incredibly volume of posts then say something of worth. I'd suggest that people stop spamming the thread and only post content if they have something significant to say. Between showtime and shallow, we literally added somewhere close to 500 posts to this thread. In my specific instance, after reading something like that, I'd just be to tired to think of anything 'new' to put into the discussion, and i'd be out of time as well, seeing as i've got a life and all. Edit: one of my friends has an albino brother, and his hair is white, not blonde. Mr. White makes more sense in the hair department. | ||
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127. L Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:00 L wrote:hopefully. then again, i've been booked with finals :/ Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:27 L wrote:Well, the rest of the town won't really listen to me sticking up for myself, but here's a brief overview: Heroes cannot add properly. The 12 clue would be a pretty solid find, I suppose, but sadly it doesn't exist. None of the number combinations add to 12 unless you make a mistake. If our jack comes back and you want to waste one of his dt turns, feel free to ask him if the knives/number/cottonmouth in general is related to me. And knifes, throwing, and nails have nothing to do with me. Blades, sharp objects, throwing can all be linked to a variety of people, and yet not to me. Even the cottonmouth moniker is geographically distinct from me. Sidewinder is a snake which inhabits the US. Queasy was from the US. Are snakes geographically sensitive? Taipan snake says no, Queasy says yes. Maybe not all snakes are geographically sensitive, but if cottonmouth is, it can't be me. Taipan snake's 'clue' seems more to be this:. Basically its a hint that he's the most 'deadly' of the mafia, being a suicide bomber and all. In that respect, snakes could hold clues, but morphologic clues as well as geographic clues. Either way, cottonmouth doesn't fit me. I'm so certain of this that I'll link you to both cottonmouth pages on wikipedia so that you can see for yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_contortrix_mokasen PS. I'm sorry I actually did work and found clues on Ghar while 3/4ths of the town was deadset convinced he was a mafia member. I guess activity is bad news when you try and make it productive. Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:33 L wrote:Just a note: I thought heroes did the counting, he didn't. Was plexa. And are you suggesting that a monkey or chicken would cut phone wires? Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:37 L wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:39 L wrote: You never disproved this :/. Honestly, you forget to count the second group of 3 knives in the legs, and your workaround makes 12 dissapear from the other post. Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:48 L wrote: The number you skipped is staring you in the face. If you add the a nail being one, now the number is 15. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:51 L wrote:Apperantly you're allowed to skip numbers and add things incorrectly to lynch people now. Add that to lynching people because they disagree with you, and we've got an awesome night post in the works :/ Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:58 L wrote:So let me get this straight. You're adding up the number values of the thrown objects which hit as they're written, but make exceptions for a (saying it counts as one) and for the 2x3 knives on the legs, by saying that they don't count because they weren't written out. Wow. Case closed, you're retarded. Again, go ahead and try to link cottonmouth, knives, throwing weapons, nails or any other action besides your retardedly contrived number invention. If they don't fit, I cant be cottonmouth. Then again, you have animals cutting through power cables, so I'm not sure if you're trying to troll me. If so, well done. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:40 L wrote: Posting behavior, blog posts, name, anything's up for grabs. Additionally, chuiu uses wikipedia for quite a few of his clues, so looking at the history of the letter L in wikipedia shows Crook, Lambda, excessive el, or ell sounds would all point to me. From Crook you can go to shepards/crime. From lambda you can go to wavelength or something similar. You could also use when I joined, where i live, etc. We've already been over those, Cottonmouth doesn't connect to me on any ground besides some made up number game. Again, i'll flat out ask that the jack check me. If you really think i'm mafia, that's cool. I'd just rather not have the town go and lynch another innocent member because you're trying your best to 'spice things up', as you put it. Edit: Shallow looks innocent now . Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:22 L wrote:I'm kinda resettling after changing where I live + I have finals. The only times I didn't post much where during that entire showtime + shallow spam the threads areas, for obvious reasons, as well as the 2 day stretch when I was without internet b/c I was moving. Your inability to count properly and your continued accusations after your evidence has been proven false kinda make you suspicious too, but mafia's a game of suspicions, so i suppose that's normal. I really do need to get back to studying, so don't expect much from me until tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:55 L wrote: I called you a retard because you can't add. The fact that you thought that decaf was cutting wires specifically because of the thematic link to being an animal also didn't make sense. As for evilmonkey being mafia or not, I'm pretty sure everyone was operating on very few clues + the dt list, much like we all were when we voted for trancestorm. I didn't defend him at all, I just thought that your reasoning was kinda weak and totally didn't fit. Ie. Decaf shouldn't be under suspicion because of the animal/wire link, but that's kinda obvious now due to monkey being mafia, that's all. And yeah, i've been meaning to ask you. You post quite a bit, but you edit a large amount of your posts. I've seen a few of the uneditted versions, and they all seem to be like 20 line analysis which are fairly decent, but then i go to check where you go the information from, and the post is gone by the time i get back. More importantly, the timestamps on your edits are actually after successive posts, which means you posted something, double posted in certain cases, then went back and editted both posts for some reason. most specifically, pages 213 and 214, which comprise like your 7 most recent posts before the night post by chuiu. I'm not going to say this means you're mafia, because i'm pretty sure that dt evidence + clues are far more important, but like.. why would you edit such a massive amount of information out of your posts? Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:02 L wrote: Well, i did see you take away a big chunk of information from one of the posts at least, no disputing that, but i guess the grammar issue is fine. I normally edit a lot of my posts for grammar too, but i didn't in this thread on purpose. There's a few in my last post that i didn't want to get rid of, for example. Thanks for clearing that up. As for snake charmer, I was going to suggest that the following set of thematics links to him: -Swords/blades/cutting in general (mentioned both as per his weaponry, and as per his gashes) -His attacks were relentless, so either he really like death, is a dark character, or he is motivated -His attacks were gruesome, so either his cuts were powerful, or they had a sinister 'dark' quality to them. MidnightGladius fits both sections (Dark + Sword), but the 'dark' really does connect with ieatkids. I guess another clue would help Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 11:31 L wrote: Could be, but the phrase and his actions kinda point to the reverse: ie he was really active in his killing. Actually, i did some checking up, and I can't google a Volrath Ishnikar, but from my time playing magic I know of a Volrath who was the antagonist of the story for something like 5-6 years. Basically Volrath was a big magical black hero who dealt with shapeshifting and raising people from the dead, and he was incredibly cruel. The word gruesome really does describe him, and that's part of the comment midnight has for his profile. Also: his full comment is a quote, the contents of which are: Basically it fits perfectly with the emphasis put on the fact that he isn't idle, because change is pretty much the opposite of staying still. More than that, the stifling of pride can tie into the way he just hacked his target to death. I dunno, just throwing ideas out because i'm bored of studying Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:00 L wrote:Artanis is an SC character http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artanis_(StarCraft)#Artanis Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:40 L wrote: Intentional pun? If so, 5/5. For Mr Red, until we get more clues, there's only Dr.Dragoon due to falling = how dragoons deal damage in rpg games. And sonuvbob's retarded chocobo picture + the red blood of his nazgul pierced friend. Both seem pretty meh, but that's what I found while looking. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 09:40 L wrote:Oh wow, MTF's done a hell of a job. I'm kinda comatose from exams at the moment, so I'm going to wait for day to get back into the swing of things. And fusion, go download/google 'cave story deluxe' for a cute little time waster game. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:56 L wrote:Oh wow, I thought you had something special about you, but to be the last jack? Goddam. On to the clues, i suppose: Okay, so, love pops up here, might just be a consequence of decaf hitting KH, but the entire wording seems very snide. Something insincere about Mr, Black? Next: Enigma has an ugly look on his face? Does that mean he's ugly, or does his character have something to do with grimacing? Either way, Enigma seems to have some facial link to him. Third: Mr. Black and Enigma beat the shit out of decaf; is this important, or does it just mean they're violent people. Eddie, on the other hand, seems to be the most proffessional, having his own firearm and ending decaf's life asap. PS. Fuck, sorry midnight. Nearly every red herring possible pointed towards you, but i guess this means MTF is in trouble? Either way, this was really bad. PPS. Did decaf hit KH1031 on his own? Wouldn't him searching a vote list have done better? Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:05 L wrote: They got less than that. Decaf was a vig and hit a medic, i'm assuming, and I'm pretty sure blind wouldn't get hit by mafia, so they're actually at 3/8, which is pretty horrible. Edit: He was a jack using vig power, it seems. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:17 L wrote: Mr Brown can't be understood again. This is clearly a thematic point. He also calls out, not yelling this time. Mr Brown is again connected to a face being smashed in. Mr Brown viciously beats Fishball to death with Mr. Blonde in the previous clue. He bricks Cobbler in the face this time. Mr. Pink is speedy, it seems, and tackles. From the original clues on Mr. Pink, he seems like a street fighter type character (not the game). Kinda quiet and reserved, but able to go all out in a brawl. He also seems to be bloodthirsty, which is shown by him and Mr. Brown literally smashing 2 people to death without any firearms or even classical weapons besides fists. But something even more interesting: Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown are together as a pair twice. This is highly unlikely unless its done on purpose. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 03:51 L wrote: Images typically go unchecked because they haven't been put into lists, but after looking at the clues for today, I went over all of the current profile pictures, and came across this. I'm not going to point any fingers, but this reminds me of a certain mafia character on nearly all of his thematic levels. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:45 L wrote:No, actually, you told them who the jack was with this post: Mafia knew which hits failed. They knew Plexa and someone else failed, and then you went and called that person the jack. But way to go, yet another massive bumbling mistake to reveal another medic. I'll likely be dead tomorrow because of your spotty memory and poor play. :/ Edit: I didn't want to say anything before because that would have made it pretty clear for mafia, but I guess now that decaf's dead and you're trying to get another medic killed, I'm rather forced. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:55 L wrote:You realize that 5 hits didn't land last night, one of which was protected by me. Where did the rest go? Edit: 2 vig hits (one on your orders on KH, which decaf pmed me about) + 3 normal kills. Either mafia hit 5 veterans, or they probably put extra hits on decaf to assure that he couldn't vote check in the future. And to add to that, if the Jack's ID was already known by the channel incident, why does it tie to me. Mafia already knew, and with the missing hits, (being over FIFTY PERCENT of their total hits), its incredibly easy to assume that they just tossed an extra hit or two on him to assure his death. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:25 L wrote:people don't get pms about getting hit unless they survive. Ask chuiu. Also, to reply to amber: I don't know. I know i stopped one hit. The fact that there was more than one hit is assured, which still leaves 3 in the air. One medic protection wouldn't ever be guaranteed protection, and from mafia's hitting history, they seem to stack hits, or hit a LOT of veterans, none of which have died. Honestly, it doesn't even matter now. Ace just got me killed by mafia hit tomorrow night unless he's trying to set me up to get protected. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:47 L wrote:Wow, so you get called on making up stuff, and now want to silence me in the same way you silenced wurm? This is a joke. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:03 L wrote: People have said i'm 3 different mafia members. The latest 'clues' are just as bogus. People will attach clues to people if they look hard enough, see Ghar and MidnightGladius (sorry guys) for details. And as for the list. It was Empyrean - On my own. Empyrean - You told me to stay on him. Empyrean - You told me to stay on him. I stopped a hit, but he still died. Plexa - I pmed Chuiu 3 minutes before my pm to you on the ninth of april. Mafia hit plexa twice, You put 3 medics on him. He survives Decaf - I prevented a hit. He dies. But you knew all that. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:19 L wrote:Or they've protected someone who was mafia. Lenwe wasn't, so the medic on him is 100% confirmed, regardless of if he should or shouldn't have known. All the others, however, aren't. Unless all the saves are on people that are confirmed townie, you're making faulty judgements again. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:26 L wrote:Oh, nevermind then. That leaves player error. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:31 L wrote:See god picture for more details. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:36 L wrote:Wait, no, it doesn't matter if mafia can't hit mafia, because the fake medic and the mafia target don't actually need a hit to say it happened. they can just use a hit that's unaccounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 06:46 L wrote:I did protect decaf :/. We've been over this. Moreover, who did 'everyone else' protect? Mafia already know who they hit + failed to kill, so their target might as well speak up. If he can't, then you're clearly bullshitting. Account for 5 missing hits. I know you can't because I'm blue. I'll be waiting. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:06 L wrote: Yeah, you kinda do. Because you're saying that 3 medics defended hits tonight, and mafia already knows that. Why would you keep information from the town. More than that, only 1 medic needs to be lying, for the reasons i showed earlier. Well, if people are suspecting me, i'd rather they evaluate the clues based on the clue's merits, and not my "coolness" in the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:35 L wrote:If Medic G saved someone, have the person who they saved post, otherwise they could easily be the mafia/medic pair. Mafia already know the hit failed. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:41 L wrote:When i turn up blue, i suggest everyone take a good hard look at what happened here. Edit: When i turn up blue, it'll be the name of a mafia, or someone who screwed up. It also proves you aren't full of shit, because you're pretending you know where 5 hits went, and i'm 100% positive you don't, because I stopped one. Go ahead and show proof that you know where all 5 came from. You can't. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:07 L wrote: I'm going to die tonight to mafia regardless, but that's fine. At least you don't waste a lynch, and the person i'm protecting is assured 2+ hits if he wants to die. Either way, I protected decaf, so I know you're doing something wrong to account for all other 5 hits. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:16 L wrote:He doesn't need to pick plexa. Nor would I advise he does. \ Edit: He can also lie and put extra medics to prevent 2-3 hits from registering, and just make sure that I'm the first one to send my PM to chuiu so that I'm first on the list to save the target. Either way, mafia sending 2 hits on a target that the town knows is going to get hit is risky for them. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 09:33 L wrote: We're informed regardless of if the target survives or not, but only if our save was the one that stopped the hit. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 16:26 L wrote: I found it funny that: 1) You linked to the letter L, which has nothing to do with the interpretation. 2) Upon reading the wikipedia article, there's a massive amount of contraindicatory information. Examples: Basically you misquoted the paragraph that said that L developed into a very quirky character and used it so say he was ugly. Clearly looking cool and being ugly are the same, right? GJ taking someone and fitting clues to him as opposed to taking clues and fitting them thematically to people. Anyways, that's the preliminary design of L. Read further down into what he actually does in the anime, and you'll see that none of it remotely describes me. I'd argue harder, but i'll be mafia'd in the face tonight. Suffice it to say, a sweet tooth, odd posture, looking sleepy, only fighting using kicks or any number of odd but L-centric quirks could have described me, and not only does enigma not have these characteristics, but no other mafia member does either. What else would clues about me be made on? We've been over the letter itself, we've been over the ell sound. we've been over nearly everything. Similarly, the traits enigma has (running hand through hair for instance), don't match up. Either way, when I die and come up blue, lynching spoinka because of a single pokemon reference to an animal who bounces (as opposed to falls down). This will be the third time people try to pin me to a name, and do so poorly. I'd tell people who I think enigma is, but the town wouldn't believe me until I died anyways, so what's the point? Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 12:35 L wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 06:20 L wrote:There is another person in this game with a name related to death note besides me. Should be pretty darn easy to figure out given the death note remix thread in general at the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:24 L wrote:Its not Matsuda. Its the main character of the series, being the guy screaming out to matsuda in those videos, the guy who gives grimaces, the who who has a fake note written, the guy who is righteous and believes that he's the only one who can fix things. Enigma isn't L. Enigma is Yagami Light. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bHr8TD2NCng"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bHr8TD2NCng" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Watch 2:05. I was hoping I wouldn't have to be the one to point this out, but i guess since i'm either lynched or mafiaed in the face in the next 24-72 hours, I might as well regardless of people ignoring evidence based on suspicions around me. That's the same reason I didn't really want to point out that the 'leader' character eddie is nearly directly implicated by more mineral's picture involving god with his own ak47. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:37 L wrote:I had to go pull an all nighter to get my degree with first honours, but yeah, Amber[Light] is what I was pointing at. I'm surprised no one noticed it before, seeing as all the clues are directly linked to the actions of Light during the series. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 10:49 L wrote:Okay, so, your defence is that people have looked at me instead of you until now. Solid. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 11:52 L wrote:I could feign not knowing what happened in the last game too, but ineptitude isn't a predictor of innocence. If you didn't read what was posted from former mafia members on the pages between 50 and 100, that's really not my problem. Why would you suggest that? Because if mafia are active and you die as red, suspicion is thrown off your active comrades. It also gives you a bluff to hide under like you've done here. Obviously you won't trust me if i directly link your name to a suite of clues which has been thought to be mine for the past day, but you haven't really doubted the validity of the link in your defense posts, which makes me believe that you know you've been pinned. Either way, no matter what people do, others are going to be suspicious. This is why i didn't want to point a finger at you in the first place. If i really was so out to nail you, why would I hold back my predictions? If i was mafia, for the same reasons i posted above for your ineptitude bluff. Even then, If i die red, or you die red, the other isn't explicitly found innocent, we can simply be dual mafia just throwing ideas off each other to make the other seem less liable come lynch time. But yeah, the fact that you've stated that is all the reason you'd need as mafia to state your lack of knowledge in the first place. That the method of killing has been posted prior in thread would be of no worry to you if you were mafia, because you could pin your lack of knowledge on lack of activity. If you were townie, on the other hand, it shows that you haven't even bothered to read the thread. :/. Either way, pretending to be stupid doesn't really help you. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 13:22 L wrote: Apart from the fact that Yagami Light fits every action of enigma, from the fake note all the way down to the grimace? Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 13:59 L wrote:Not raping people with rakes. :o Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 14:38 L wrote: Pardon? Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 02:40 L wrote: Hater. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 08:04 L wrote:I'll get right on that. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 16:27 L wrote: I actually wanted to be a townie and was disappointed when I got mafia. QQ for me. Hope it all turns out well, gl everyone . Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 01:43 L wrote:I vote for randombum on the basis that his candidacy was pre-game and the fact that he isn't Emp. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:49 L wrote:I vote mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:39 L wrote:I abstain until I get my internet back and I can read the suspect list post. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 14:40 L wrote:Just my new internet set up and most of my stuff is in my new pad. Voting for wurm and abstaining second vote Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 05:48 L wrote:I guess I'll vote Trancestorm too. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 22:51 L wrote:Voting Evilmonkey and Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 07:20 L wrote: Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 18 2008 15:58 L wrote: I really hope Ace has me protect you, then mafia try to hit you and you get saved by me. That would be the ultimate irony. As for me? I'll vote for Nemy for giggles. + Show Spoiler [LTT] + 41. LTT Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 05:22 LTT wrote:And in a rare twist, Chuiu decides to make everyone a townie and just kills random people every night. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:46 LTT wrote:I got the same. I just figured he was sending them out to everyone. Seems like a lot more work than just making one post in this thread. :x Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:33 LTT wrote:Saving Victor. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:54 LTT wrote:Vote for chuiu. They are all linked on the first post. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:31 LTT wrote: I think it is far more likely that Chuiu was just tired and didn't have time/didn't want to come up with clues for all 20 mafia. There are 20 mafia total. 12 codenames were used in the day post. I interpreted the 8 people in his way as the 8 mafia not named. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:55 LTT wrote:Just to clarify. We arrived at the conlcusion that both were. Edit: Victor saved! Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:36 LTT wrote:I don't understand how anyone can vote for showtime. The medic save guarantees that he is a townie. If we just vote for people who are brazenly outspoken, we are going to lose. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:57 LTT wrote: He can't be lying. Ace said he got a pm from the medic. That would require ace, showtime, and the confirmed medic to all be lying. -___- Edit: Here it is http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...id=67925¤tpage=157#3138 Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:15 LTT wrote:Less than 4 hours left. Pay particular attention to Ace's post if you are supposed to vote for suspect #2. It has changed again. Edit: There's what...a little under 3 hours left? Voting usually ends at 12:00 forum time? Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:23 LTT wrote:Voted for Wurm but shouldn't have - 5 Ace - (Safe, lol) Amber[LighT] Puosu Alethios(2) Siefu decafchicken Didn't vote for wurm but should have - 2 qrs Eti307 ----- Voted for ghar but shouldn't have - 6 qrs Naib GeneralStan(2) Eti307 JoxxOr araav wurm (dead when Chuiu makes his post) Didn't vote for ghar but should have - 4 Plexa Fishball (dead) Siefu SoMuchBetter Unforgiven_ve Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:37 LTT wrote:I think it was more that he wasn't following orders. There were way better targets if we are going to base it on people who annoy us. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 03:10 LTT wrote: Ahahaha. Thanks for this Chuiu. Happy April Fools. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 06:14 LTT wrote: Day dawned on the town of Liquia. The stench of rotten eggs filled the air and black flour was strewn throughout the town. It was a high price to pay, but the town had succeeded. Their plan to make a rotten batch of cookies had worked. In the center of town, the rigid corpse of The Great Cookie Thief was surrounded by the putrid pastries. It seems he struggled towards the fountain in the center of town in search of any liquid that would help rid him of the horrid taste in his mouth. Unfortunately for him, the foul cookies worked too quickly and The Great Cookie Thief died without any relief. The town, however, now felt a great deal of relief. The terror was over and all the cookies were safe. The only surviving Cookie Cop got to work cleaning up the mess. Not The Monsters slowly started to join the Cookie Cop in his efforts. Together, they managed to find an emotion that Liquia had lost long ago. Hope. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:58 LTT wrote:Ok. I'm really confused. Ordell and Winston are new names which means they are vigilantes. This means 2 of the 5 deaths came from us. Only 3 kills by the mafia? That would mean that there were 6 saves, but we only have 5 medics. I supposed our Jack could have chosen medic which would bring it up to 6, but that would require a 100% success rate on saves. 2 DTs. This is depressing. 66% of the Mafia kills tonight were DTs. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:05 LTT wrote:Hrm. I forgot about Veterans. Veterans could be absorbing some of the missing hits as well. Hopefully they are reporting in with Ace when they are getting hit. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:19 LTT wrote: I think it is dead because we are all waiting to hear from Ace. If you'd like more posts, I can make a night post, the aftermath of the poisoned cookies. :D Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:47 LTT wrote:Ace, you mentioned that the Detective that was supposed to check Ghar didn't report in. Since they didn't use their ability on Ghar, did they get a chance to check the vote counts? Do you have any more numbers that you can share with use that might help us with this lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:54 LTT wrote:I'm not sure how to read that. Is the bottom correct where they are all confirmed innocent or is the top correct and 1 of them is mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:56 LTT wrote:Ahh. 2 different subjects. So the top list is innocent and 1 from your second post is a Mafia. 1/7 Hrm.. Edit: Ok, 1/6. Even better. On a note, you just cleared Plexa's biggest suspect. People voting for d.arkive should probably change their votes. Edit 2: I'm crunching some numbers. I want to try to figure out the current percentage of Mafia to Townies. I'm not sure how good the 1/6 ratio is. On the plus side, focusing on this group will confirm 5 townies if we can find the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:04 LTT wrote:(Mafia) / (Total Townies) = (18) / (91 + 18) = 16.5% Mafia. But, there are some confirmed townies. Ace + All the living bodyguards are confirmed. That 6 total. You probably know of more, but that's all I've got to work with. It becomes 18/103 = 17.4% 1/6 = 16.7% It seems pretty close to me to make focusing on these 6 worthwhile with the added bonus of increasing confirmed townies. I'll take a look at the clues, but I've been terrible so far. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:06 LTT wrote: I don't understand this one. Was he supposed to vote for you as per your previous plan? I checked people that didn't follow the suspect 1/suspect 2 voting plan but I didn't check the Ace/Randombum plan. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:09 LTT wrote: 1/4 would be great. If they aren't confirmed innocent you probably shouldn't release the names. There isn't much workload between checking 4 and 6 and I believe we should stick to the numbers without confirmation. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:24 LTT wrote:Chezinu + Show Spoiler + Sig: lol, clueless No Profile. No Birthday. Joined TL.net Wednesday, 6th of February 2008 Alventenie + Show Spoiler + No Sig. No Profile. No Birthday. Joined TL.net Saturday, 14th of July 2007 Country United States imDerek + Show Spoiler + No Birthday. Joined TL.net Wednesday, 15th of August 2007 Country United States Sig: keke Profile:"For thou dost know, O Damon dear, This realm dismantled was Of Jove himself; and now reigns here A very, very--pajock." - Hamlet TranceStorm + Show Spoiler + No sig. No Profile. No Birthday. Joined TL.net Monday, 7th of May 2007 Country United States fusionsdf + Show Spoiler + Joined TL.net Wednesday, 7th of June 2006 Birthday September 21, 1987 Country Canada Sig:в 1 word: awrsdrsom//Lim Ji HyeгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂпјЃ Profile: в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“в–’в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“в–’в–’в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–€в–€в–“в–“в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–€в–’в–€в–’в–€в–€в–“в–’в–€в–’в–€в–’в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–€в–’в–’в–“в–“в–’в–’в–“в–“в–’в–’в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–’в–’в–“в–“в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–“в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–’в–“в–€в–’в–’в–’в–“в–€в–’в–’в–“в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–“в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–€в–“в–“в–€в–’в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–’в–’в–’в–’в–“в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–’в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–’в–’в–’ в–’в–’в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“ в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–“в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–€в–“в–€в–“в–“в–“в–“в–“ Evilmonkey. + Show Spoiler + Joined TL.net Saturday, 22nd of April 2006 Birthday February 21, 1991 Country Japan Sig WWBD- What would Boxer do? No Profile. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:33 LTT wrote:Does anyone know what that ASCII-ish type art in fusion's profile is? It almost looks like that guy from 300. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:42 LTT wrote: Helping us find the real mafia would be a start. What is the Ascii picture of in your profile? Chez and Alventinie don't have much to go on in their profile. Wiki and google don't turn up much for their names. imDerek's Hamlet quote could point to a few things. I;m not sure where to go with that one. There was a big swordfight in the climax. Maybe the clue with swords? TranceStorm has as little to go on as Chez and Alve, but he has storm in his name. Perhaps he is the electrical guy? Evilmonkey. has a slight change on a religious quote as his sig. It could be something with Christianity or something with Boxer. I don't think there was any mention of Monkeys yet, but I believe Evil Monkey comes from the character in Family Guy. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:54 LTT wrote: That's what I figured. Leonidas fits right in with Mr. Brown (Yelling.) and Mr. Black. (Massive Strength). Edit: Can anyone find anything on Chez and Alve? I'm coming up blank. Based on the last game, I'm terrible at finding clues (Just ask Bob. -_-) so I would really appreciate some help. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 06:04 LTT wrote:Carnival, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway as I can't find anything on him. From the little I've found, the Leonidas clue from fusion seems the strongest. TranceStorm and imDerek's seem weaker. I'm can't find much on the others. I've got to head out for a bit so I'm just going to vote for fusion for now. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 10:09 LTT wrote: I don't think so. After Dr. Dragoon was elected Mayor those few weeks ago, his epic plan of just asking the mafia to raise their hands has led to a stunning 8 mafia deaths so far. Our 17 Detectives still alive have been vigorously investigating the other 13 who raised their hands. I think we can be confident that we will find the one townie who is trying to foil Dr. Dragoon's master plan and victory should only be a night or two away. Our 83 vigilantes will make sure of that. Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 18:17 LTT wrote: I think I found the differences in the list. The list given by the jack wasn't the final list, but Chuiu's count a few hours before the final count. Check out this post. The real question is what possible reason he would have for reporting it as 0 mafia. We now know that there was at least 1 in the list so the "jack" was lying. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 00:00 LTT wrote:I'm starting to be convinced that Siefu is Joe. Siefu's quote is from a tatto on the arm of the main character of Lost, Jack. Jack is leading the survivors of the plane crash and he used to be a doctor. Look at the three clues to Joe: Joe, along with Eddie, is taking the lead from Chuiu. The weakest of the 3, but that is to be expected as it happened on Day 1. Joe, along with Eddie, making plans. Again, refering to them as leaders. A little stronger. Joe is taking care of Sidewinder/Queasy. He is caring for the sick, as a doctor would. Even stronger. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 00:44 LTT wrote:I think there might be a problem with the 12 idea. We only have 2 occurances and the first one was miscounted. There are a total of 15 knives on Day 2. 2 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 15 There were 3 knives in EACH of his legs, for a total of 6 knives in his legs. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:01 LTT wrote: If that is the case, then Day 4 doesn't add up to 12. Adding all the nails, you get 5 + 1 + 6 + 3 + 1 = 16 Adding just the numbers, you get 5 + 6 + 3 = 14 I'm starting to think 12 is really a stretch. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 07:57 LTT wrote: That's a good point. If you are going to discount the 3 he dodged you have to also discount the 5 that are just laying around. This is the set of rules that Chuiu would need to be following to make 12 a clue. 1.) Only count explicitly numbered knives/nails. a.) Exception - a is a number b.) Clarification - it is not a number 2.) Only count knives/nails that hit the target. a.) Even if they are explicitly numbered, they don't count. b.) Exception - Count knives/nails that are just laying around, only discount ones attempted to hit the target but failed 3.) If 6 knives are placed in the legs but I don't write "3 in the left leg and 3 in the right leg" instead choosing to write "3 in each leg", only 3 of the knives count. It is a little absurd at this point. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:22 LTT wrote: Plexa, look at both of my posts. Neither Day 2 nor Day 4 adds up to 12. Here is the second. It isn't just the first not adding to 12. The second doesn't either. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:51 LTT wrote: Now I'm confused. None of the numbers add up to 12 unless you start making a complicated set of rules which eliminates the evidence against L but he is still your leading suspect until we find evidence for a clue that might not be a clue? As I said in my PM, we have to be wary of holding grudge suspisions and forcing evidence to fit those descriptions. Last game, I exchanged PMs with SonuvBob trying to figure out who was mafia. During the game, Live2Win used his mod powers to edit another player's post. That pissed me off so I was convinced that we has mafia. Every day I'd get more and more upset at the town for missing painfully obvious clues. I was convinced he was lying about being a medic. It turns out, he wasn't. If you start with a suspect who you are sure is mafia, you are sure to find "evidence" in all those words from Chuiu and the thousands of posts in this thread. If we are going to play based on clues and evidence, which seems to be our best shot at this point, we need to keep the suspicion proportionate to the evidence. When the evidence disappears, our suspicions should diminish proportionately. What you are currently doing doesn't seem to be different from Ace deciding to lynch qrs because he is upset with him. It can't come from anger and then lead to evidence. You have been the best at deciphering clues thus far so we need you in top form to keep seeing red text on day and night posts. Even if L, or qrs, turns out to be mafia, we've made the wrong move if there are any better suspects with evidence behind them. Over the long run, we are going to die if we play like this. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:14 LTT wrote:I vote for SonuvBob. SonuvBob, he's not a douche. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 05:54 LTT wrote:I change my vote to randombum as Bob needs a miracle and based on the current information I think it would be wise to avoid electing Emp. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 01:37 LTT wrote:I abstain until we receive further instructions. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 05 2008 06:05 LTT wrote:I abstain pending fusiondf's huge update + Show Spoiler [Lenwe] + 124. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 02:01 Lenwe wrote:I'd like to join if it's still possible. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:02 Lenwe wrote:I don't like the way Empyrean has put himself up for mayor. He is basically forcing us to put him in a protected position or risk loosing a detective right away, which is a strategy that is (too) risky in my eyes. I doubt any real detective would put his powers on the line that easily. So I assume he is lying about being a detective, so I don't know what else he is lying about right now. Ghar's plan sounds reasonable, but the detectives can do that for every mayor and not just not him. I don't see a real flaw in the plan, but I am hoping a more experienced mafia player can point out one or two. I can't be that easy. Also, is it worth it for the mafia to loose one member like that if they can take out the mayor and 1 or 2 detectives? (Sorry for being such a noob). Sonuvbob has 4 votes already, despite having given very little reason to vote for him other than him being able to see edits and having other mod powers. Also he announced that he was running for mayor at 16:09 (TL time) with this post: He got his first vote in the voting thread at 16:14, 5 minutes later, before he even made a second post. The person voting for him was LTT. I don't know if he participated in the previous TL mafia (I couldn't find that post anywhere), but if someone can confirm that? If he did, it makes it even more suspicious for me, because he knows the game and yet still votes for someone right after he reads the post, even though the reasoning behind Sonuvbob running for mayor at that time was just that he would be less of a douche that FS. Mafia promoting their candidate too early? So far I am not sure on who to vote, but I am waiting for a candidate to truly convince me. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:10 Lenwe wrote:If the mayor that is elected is mafia, I think the mafia win with that plan. They get to remove the mayor and one detective from the game for the price of only one of their members. If however the mayor is a townie, the plan sounds good to me. With the detective roles I assume we will find out if the mayor is a mafia member anyway since there is bound to be at least one detective checking that. Right now it is hard to trust anyone, but near impossible to point out the mafia members (unless they do something really stupid). We, as the town, have to be careful to accuse anyone since the mafia can easily benefit from that. If we start accusing other townies and fighting amongst ourselves the mafia have nothing worry about in the beginning. Also something Bill307 said in the write-up post made a lot of sense to me. While Ghar's plan indeed is good and it does give direction, it also really bad if we elect a mayor that turns out to be mafia. So, considering Randomburn put in the effort to send out pm's before the roles were handed out, there being a 20/130 chance he then got a mafia role and with the excellent voting record he had last game, I am inclined to go with him for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:42 Lenwe wrote:I agree with quite a lot that has been said. I don't think we can accuse anyone of being mafia so far unless they do something strange. The only strange thing I've seen so far is Emp announcing himself a detective, which has deffinately put him on my radar as suspicious. For the rest I just want to vote for the mayor that comes of as the least suspicious and has an actual plan. I am liking the bodyguard idea that Ace put forward. It seems it can work really well, even if it would cost us one bodyguard, coordinating all the efforts of our special roles is probably worth it. He is getting a lot of votes right now though, so if that continues he will probably become mayor anyway and I am more interested in getting someone else with good idea's in the pardoner role. Randomburn is making quite a lot of sense as well so far. So I am withholding my vote for now to see if Ace will indeed take a huge lead and perhaps for other candidates to announce they are running for mayor. Oh and, fair enough Sonuvbob. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote: But won't the real bodyguards notice this? If there are 7 bodyguards and they all get the message and one of them steps forward, no problem. If there are 7 bodyguards and one doesn't get the message he will know something fishy is going on. If there are 7 bodyguards and they all get the message but an 8th person steps forward and say's the mayor is not mafia, they will also know something is wrong. Right, or am I missing something? Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:10 Lenwe wrote:I don't know what to think of Emp now. If he is that good of a player I don't think he would out himself that easily as a detective. However if it is indeed an idea the mafia cooked up, why put forward such an experienced player for such a dangerous plot? It does seem to work however, since he is getting a lot of votes. So, for now, I think I will vote for Ace, just to make sure he will stay in the lead. Can't wait to wake up tomorrow and having to read through like 50 pages. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 20:14 Lenwe wrote:I can't help but bring this back from about 10 pages ago, but it was something that really stood out for me. He made his post at 19:33 TL time. Now if remember correctly from my geography classes, China and Korea are no that far apart. So that means, the timezone difference can't be that great (somewhere between 1-4 hours, depending on where you live in China would be my guess). That means that Emp said he had to go to school for 7 hours straight and that school would be starting at 15:33 - 18:33. A strange time to start with school if you ask me. I still think that Ace is the best candidate for mayor since he has a plan, but Emp has made so many strange descision that I really hope that people that voted for him will rethink their votes again. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:09 Lenwe wrote: About that, I seriously don't see the reason why they would cheat in this game, so I vote we don't remove either of them from the game. And stop accusing people of being mafia, we can't tell so far who is and who isn't. The only reasons to do it now is to cause more confusion amongst the town members and that is something town members should not try to do. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:22 Lenwe wrote: You are right, I read back to about 10 pages again and I thought I saw more accusations, but there are actually only very few so far. And I agree about not getting emp in a position of power as can be seen by my earlier posts. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:57 Lenwe wrote:By that reasoning everyone that voted for someone without giving a reason is suspicious. Would be nice to make a list of that, something I might get on tomorrow. Time for bed, hopefully when I wake up we will have moved on and the mayor/pardoner are know. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 20:57 Lenwe wrote:It's night now Bob, so we will have to wait and see who the mafia kill. Congratulations Ace and Random on getting Mayor and pardoner, I hope we voted wisely and you will indeed turn out to be townies. I just wish we had some idea on when a detective will have checked Ace so we can be absolutely sure and his plans can be set in motion. I hope we can all agree on one thing. Confusion, wether it are so called funny post, drunk post, accusing post or whatever, will not benefit the town. If all the townies can agree to stop with all those post then it would make it a lot easier to come up with solid strategies. Also, if everyone agrees, the people still stirring up all kinds of things automatically become suspicious, because it is not doing the town any good. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:53 Lenwe wrote: If we assume all detectives contact Ace once he has been cleared, so when no detective has spoken up, that means that all four should contact him. If more than four detectives are contacting Ace he said he would have a plan ready, which he has not revealed yet. If any of the real detectives decided not to contact Ace, then this could prove to be a problem however. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:59 Lenwe wrote: I'd wait a bit longer with claiming this, this night hasn't gone on for 24 hours, so it is possible that noone of the detectives has had time to check or that Chiui hasn't had time to reply yet. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:32 Lenwe wrote: Reposting for people who still aren't clear what is going on. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:48 Lenwe wrote:I hope everyone (and especially all the blues) have pm'd their roles to Ace by now, so he can start his plan to coordinate everyone's efforts. Some very nice clues have been pointed out so far and from reading the thread I would have to agree that Ghar seems a strong suspect for today's lynching, but I will wait with voting to see if Ace comes out with more information that is currently unknown to us. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:06 Lenwe wrote:I'd say we all calm down a bit and wait for the night to end. We will then know who are still alive and I hope Ace can tell us a bit more behind his reasoning to suspect Wurm this much while it is very hard to link clues to him. On the other hand, no clues were linked to Mandalor and he was spot on there. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 01:01 Lenwe wrote: Chiui informed us that he is quite sick, so let's just wait till he or Dapperdan finds the time. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:47 Lenwe wrote:I'd say check if the clue links to Ghar and lynch Wurm. Even if he is truly a medic he is in no way helping us win this game. Then the two other DT questions can be used for the voting list. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:53 Lenwe wrote:Showtime! isn't the only one who has been annoying so far though, Wurm however is the only player reported by Ace to not cooperate with his plan, thus hurting the town. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:20 Lenwe wrote:Araav, you are being accused of hacking into the IRC channel. How did you get the info for their IRC channel, did someone pm it to you, or did you use some other method to find that channel? Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:31 Lenwe wrote:Or are you going for option C: Someone else entered the channel and used your name. Or option D: Both our Mayor and Showtime! are lying about it. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:44 Lenwe wrote:Yes I did, so you are saying both our mayor and Showtime! are lying about it then? Pretty strong accusations to make, especially against our mayor. I couldn't care less about Showtime! since I don't trust him one bit. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:53 Lenwe wrote:He still had to find out about the channel first and then find where it was. Unless Ace was dumb enough to put it on Quakenet and started idling in #teamliquid as well, so a simple /whois would reveal that he was also in the channels #Mafia2, #Beerlovers, #BritneySpearsFans. If that is the case then sure, but I don't think Ace would be that stupid, so how did he find out there was a channel and then joined it, or is he claiming that both of them are lying? <edit> And stop assuming I didn't read the previous posts. Posted in night7/main_page.167 Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 29 2008 00:05 Lenwe wrote:Can we leave the moderating of this game to Chuiu please and if he wants someone banned I am sure he can ask a mod to do it. That said, personal insults not related to the game should not be allowed and are of no use to anyone. Take the personal vendetta to pm's and let's keep this thread focused on the game please. Ace, with all the spamming that has gone on, could you perhaps relist the plan for the people (and I am sure there are loads) that missed it. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 05:38 Lenwe wrote:That would be an absolute waste. If Ace is indeed mafia a DT would have spoken up ages ago and since none of them did, we can safely assume he is in fact a townie. On the 0,00001% chance that noone of the DT's checked him: Then we are screwed anyway, since the mafia have a list of pretty much every blue in the game and it is game over. So why would we waste a valuable DT question on something that we already know. Why are people still so worried about this Ace being mafia thing, while the chance of him being so is nearly 0% (once again, if he is our DT's screwed up and this is pretty much gg). Why not use that question to gain more information and proceed with Ace's plan, which so far has made perfect sense and has led us to our first mafia kill. Start worrying about other people's behaviour and start linking clue's to them. Post those results here in public or pm them to Ace telling him to post it in public if you are afraid for your own life. | ||
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124. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 22:20 Lenwe wrote: Please do not forget to follow the plan people if there is still time to change your vote. <edit> I'm sorry Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 19:11 Lenwe wrote:I'll wait to see what Ace posts about detective results and what not, but Ninja4ever, shuresh0t, eti307 and Energies deffinately seem to be the best picks now. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 03:09 Lenwe wrote:Well, that sucks, we lost another townie and gained little to no information. I hope the last detective and the jacks can give us something to work with and I am praying for some obvious clues in the next post were mafia start killing people. I also agree that the amount of inactive people we have in this game is not helpfull. It is so easy for mafia to just hide among them, not really post or vote and thus never get noticed. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 08:13 Lenwe wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:11 Lenwe wrote:As requested by Ace: I vote Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 19:41 Lenwe wrote:For now, as requested by Ace: I vote Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 22:18 Lenwe wrote:My first vote will remain unchanged according to the plan: First vote to Ghar My second vote will go to araav to find out what happened in the IRC channel and try to make some sense out of who is lying and who is not. Second to Araav Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 23:43 Lenwe wrote:Chance of votes. First vote to Ghar Second vote to Showtime! Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 23:11 Lenwe wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. + Show Spoiler [LoStYouRSkiLLS] + 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 19:24 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:Can't Wait! Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 20:26 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:Alright I've finally got enough free time to fully look at this thread and study peoples clues etc. I see I've been suspected a bit. Can anyone plz explain why? I'll try defend myself.. I haven't had a look at all the clues yet.. Give me some time to catch up. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 21:36 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:That page 201 post = hella good. Well, lucky kicks etc. I can't defend myself against that, it's just unlucky for me that it relates to my quote. Yeah holidays. =D Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:53 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:I know it may look suspicious, but it is actually holidays. =P I see where you're coming from Naib, but looking in the other two areas, are there ANY other clues you can relate to me other than some lucky kick from a couple of days ago? I'm not Mafia, you can study all other clues and you will not find one relating to me. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:25 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:Empyrean was one of the best players last game, so I vote for Empyrean. + Show Spoiler [LucasWoJ] + 69. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:47 LucasWoJ wrote:I thought that was the role PM as well. Got my hopes up :/ Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:07 LucasWoJ wrote:It was also very apparent to outsiders that Dr. Dragoon was completely innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote:I don't particularly care that Empyrean is selfish. If it's the kind of selfishness that helps the town win, then I think it's fine. It's more a question of how credible he is, and to me, he's completely honest. Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:35 LucasWoJ wrote: It's a little bit more than his word. Based on his response to speculations about his role, I cannot see him being a mafioso. However, I'm beginning to see what you're arguing by saying it was selfish. By saying he's a detective, he's forced the town to take a risk, no matter what we do. If we don't him in as mayor, and he was a detective, the we lose a valuable role. If he is in the mafia and we DO vote him in as mayor, then...well, that's not desirable to say the least. Either way (voting for him, or not voting for him), you're taking a risk, which is something someone may have wanted to avoid in the mayoral elections. I can see that as a valid point to abstain from voting, but to me, the risk of Empyrean being mafia is not too high. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:48 LucasWoJ wrote: Considering you have "Pink" in your name, you just made me question whether Empyrean is really part of mafia or not. Are you saying that because they agree on a position that works, they're both part of mafia? Eh? Makes no sense to me. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:58 LucasWoJ wrote:Wow, you shouldn't have revealed that. That's an incredibly thoughtful idea. I guess it sorta confirms your allegiance to the town thinking up that idea. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:35 LucasWoJ wrote:OO That is a big hole in the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.043 Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:40 LucasWoJ wrote: I actually find a lot of his one liners pretty funny. I suggest all of us go back and re-read the topic, especially anything concerning Empyrean. As we get further and further from his defense posts, it becomes easier and easier to forget about how credible it seemed of him to be a detective. I'm trying to do this with an open mind, and his defense of himself leads me to believe that he is a detective. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:29 LucasWoJ wrote:Stalling for time? If he everyone to send him a PM with their roles except for mafia, we know who mafia is. If he receives too many PMs in one sections, we get suspects. Townies all have roles they can play by, mafia will either have to lie and might get caught, or not send a PM and get exposed that way. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:37 LucasWoJ wrote:It would still help with the slightest screw-up from the mafia. Say four detectives send a PM to Ace revealing their roles. One mafioso decides to become a detective for the sake of the PM. Bam, we've got a smaller suspect list. It's easier to look into the Day posts and find clues for 5 people than 130. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 07:54 LucasWoJ wrote:Jeez, it sounds like you're against the town winning. If it's by the rules, why complain about what you feel is inevitable victory? Sure sounds like your against the interest of the town. It sounds like you're a mafioso who's having trouble deciding on what to do. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:17 LucasWoJ wrote: WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"? I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction. I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.) Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you? Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:24 LucasWoJ wrote:Also since it popped into my head, the smiley face reference does not necessarily refer to the profile. As Chuiu said, it can point to posts as well. I know I was wondering why some people had used so many smileys so often in their posts. Let's be careful when we convict anyone based solely on that clue alone. It can already lead to two people just by examining everyone's quote (and definitely more by looking through their profile) and if look at anything else, the suspect list is definitely going to grow. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:28 LucasWoJ wrote: That's irrelevant. Still, it used to stand for WaysoftheJedi, but once again, Chuiu could not even begin to assume that. Now that clan is long gone Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:55 LucasWoJ wrote:Yes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning. If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious" --- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:26 LucasWoJ wrote: Actually, I thinl that it's the best clue we have. Chuiu repeated the lead reference twice, so I am almost positive it's some sort of a clue. My personal opinion is that it's the strongest clue we have, since most of the other ones are really just hit/miss + hope you get something good. The cellphone clue just strengthens our case against Caller. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:30 LucasWoJ wrote:You just woke up? What time is it where you are? (I'm looking at the "United States" part and laughing). Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:04 LucasWoJ wrote:Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog. Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:11 LucasWoJ wrote: That's why he asked us the retract our votes, that way, those that are on will vote for whom we know is mafia. Ace knows what he's doing. Give him a chance. It seems that no matter who is mayor, there's always a group of people willing to give him a hard time. Calm down, we're in good hands. Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 05:12 LucasWoJ wrote: ...so you're against the town getting more time if it needs it? Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:17 LucasWoJ wrote:You haven't convinced me. Obviously, you have a very strange definition for playing fair. This is not what we should be doing. This reaction is provoked by a lack of patience and creates a rush of emotions that could destroy our foundation in this game. Let's cut it out and wait for Ace to get those PMs back. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:20 LucasWoJ wrote: And by saying that, you're implying you're blue encouraging the mafia to target you. You hurt the town with even that statement. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote:No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier). Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:50 LucasWoJ wrote:If any clue points to French toast, it will most likely be concerned with his profile image Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:59 LucasWoJ wrote:Don't forget that people can die during the night. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:05 LucasWoJ wrote: ROFL Yeah, I just re-read that and it made no sense. I thought Pink's logic was "Let's kill ghar tonight and kill the other suspects." My logic was that detective might die at night and then would not be able to uncover more mafia. Now that I think about it, that makes no sense whatsoever, lol. Posted in night7/main_page.116 Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:29 LucasWoJ wrote:That was a good call to investigate that. I was thinking that the people toward the bottom of the list would be mafia since they just jumped on the bandwagon in order to save themselves, but TL-Attack was on and I noticed most of the people voted after it was over. Also, those on the very bottom could just have been late, but chances are that at least a few of them decided they needed to vote against their teammate. I don't want to start calling names, since it was in the town's best interest to vote for Mandalor. I'm also wondering this. There were a lot of random votes here and there, and perhaps it could be an indication of mafia splitting their votes so that detectives have a hard time finding information on how the mafia voted. Or they could be inactive. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:39 LucasWoJ wrote:And it gets slightly better too. If the mafia hits any of the guys who voted for mandalor, it becomes easier to find them. Even though I'd prefer to lose minimal townies, if that doesn't happen, we'll still be able to benefit in some way. The mayor is much better this game than last game. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:26 LucasWoJ wrote:Let's see if we could find any clues on him. User name smurfingchobo [ PM | Buddy ] Photo None uploaded. Joined TL.net Monday, 26th of April 2004 Birthday January 15, 1987 Country Quote Teach me PvZ~ Total Posts 527 Average Posts Per Day 0.37 Average Posts Per Week 2.59 Posts made in the last week 7 That's all he has, so it should be rather blatant if there is anything on him. Though Chuiu hasn't revealed all identities yet (I think he revealed 17), so it might become more clear tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:40 LucasWoJ wrote: Hmm, yeah you're right. He edited his post after it was announced. I'm guessing now that it originally said, "I abstain" and then he changed it to "I change my vote to Mandalor." I wish people just made new posts. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:43 LucasWoJ wrote: I think he's saying that he posted "I abstain" on March 23rd, and and on March 24th, he edited his post, instead of making a new one voting for Mandalor. :/ Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:57 LucasWoJ wrote:For the mafia? We seem to be doing incredibly well. Everything Ace does is cutting the mafia's escape plans. I'm seriously doubting we're going to lose, and Ace is making it look easy. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:51 LucasWoJ wrote:Is that a change in signature Showtime? Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:04 LucasWoJ wrote:Disable you in the hopes of getting a townie lynched I guess. With your powers, you'd be able to pardon a townie, but I doubt they'd even get very far. Ace has so much more influence than entire mafia combined that we'd probably not need to use the pardoner. Posted in night7/main_page.133 Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:48 LucasWoJ wrote:Yes, but the person being protected would know if more than one person protected him. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:52 LucasWoJ wrote:Read your post, then read my post. There didn't have to be a point. You had a hole in what you were saying, so I helped you out with it. I don't see what you're arguing. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 02:00 LucasWoJ wrote:Oh, I see. Yeah, the very fact that wurm (if he's a medic) received a PM confirming that he saved someone during the night is reason enough to send Ace a PM and tell him. He should have also sent him a PM before the the new Day post informing Ace of his actions during the night (If someone is saved during the night, then it becomes more plausible that it was your doing since you sent in your actions to both Chuiu and Ace.) Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 02:03 LucasWoJ wrote:Yeah, I remember someone saying "Guys, I took a hit last night" and most people just overlooked that (someone repsonded with "You mean you drank too much or what?" It was after the Day 2 post. Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:34 LucasWoJ wrote: OH, I see what you did there. Clever, aren't you? Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:39 LucasWoJ wrote:I'm just wondering, why do you say you're definitely going to die? o.O Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:08 LucasWoJ wrote:He's not drunk; I don't think he knows English well, that's all. On a side note, I used to love the Pinky and the Brain. It used to be one of my favorite cartoons. Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Was that part added after or before the way he chose to vote on Day 2? Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 LucasWoJ wrote:Good luck guys Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 23:50 LucasWoJ wrote: Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 07:33 LucasWoJ wrote:I vote for Empyrean I trust both Ace and Empyrean, but since Empyrean is the detective, I think his role as mayor would be of more use. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:58 LucasWoJ wrote:Yeah, his "pre-game campaign" implies he had no idea if he would turn out to be mafia or not... Since I trusted both of them I change my vote from Empyrean to Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 03:26 LucasWoJ wrote:I vote for Ghar Thanks for reposting that picture "L". I must've completely missed that earlier. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:56 LucasWoJ wrote:Per Ace's request, I retract my vote for Ghar and abstain for now. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 08:10 LucasWoJ wrote:I change my abstain to vote for Mandalor + Show Spoiler [Lysithea] + 58. Lysithea Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:13 Lysithea wrote:So far, I like the Bodyguard plan the best and the overall the impression Ace made on me is nothing but positive. Given that we can't really draw any conclusions from one days batch of clues I'll just vote what I feel is the best. Currently it's Ace for mayor. However if it looks like Ace is getting a landslide victory I might change my vote toward a different candidate for pardoner spot, who that's gonna be I don't know. If Empyrean is a DT he could be very valuable as pardoner but it's something about the whole thing that just feels out of place. I'm tempted to vote for him, not for mayor but as pardoner. Wish we could have more campaigning from his side. My question to all of you is: would it be beneficial enough for mafia to even attempt the stunt empyrean is employing? Would it be reasonable? I'm asking cause I'm not sure whether to vote for Empyrean or someone else in the case of me voting for a pardoner spot. Ghar (cause he acually got a plan) and randombum (he played solid the last mafia game, a game I only was a spectator in) would be my other choices. Did I miss something crucial in my reasoning? Did I forget something along the way these last 13pages? Tell me! Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:59 Lysithea wrote: Reposting this part from my own post since I really want peoples thoughts on this. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 04:56 Lysithea wrote:Since it looks like Ace gonna get more votes than anyone else I'll change my vote for my second the best candidate for pardoner, randombum. Thanks for the input on empyrean stuff btw, 15pages got my head spinning. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 04:19 Hollander wrote: ... Out of those two, I only know Lysithea enough to know he's dumb as an unshoed horses hoof which only underlines him being Mr. Blonde, hehe ... pff, says the oily norwegian who played a feraldruid in pvp! (don't go and get me killed holl, I wanna play this for awhile :/) Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:16 Lysithea wrote:So.. by tomorrow if none has spoken up against your townmanship we can be pretty sure you're legit, correct? Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:22 Lysithea wrote:Probably good if I say this btw, I'm much of a lurker not much of a poster. Often enough what I was about to say has already been said. Don't feel like repeating stuff unnecessary. Hopefully I can become more active when the clues start coming in, the whole mayoral part was pretty straightforward for me. The outcome turned out exactly how I wanted (I already expressed my preferred situation at the start/mid of day1). Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:16 Lysithea wrote:Fusiondf, that was for the day1 lynch only since we couldn't really rely on such vague connections to clues. We're of course lynching based on clues and whatever else we can do to single out mafia from here on out. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:33 Lysithea wrote:It feels like several persons already are pretty sure of other persons being mafia based on... pretty much nothing? Please don't go and accuse people without stating your reason why. We need discussion to happen so we can form a good probable reason to why a person might be mafia. Just stating that "this person is mafia, it's obvious!" doesn't help those that might not understand why (including me). As a spectator last game it felt like some lynches just happened on a.. whim? We really need discussion and good connections to clues and whatnot before we go and let the masses bandwagon kill someone (please don't do this, tho I realize I might do this myself sometime :| ). Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:39 Lysithea wrote:Oh I forgot to ask, have someone googled/wikied about persons profiles etc and compiled it in a neat file or something? Just wondering cause I know I'll be too lazy to do it but it would become very handy later on. On second thought, if someone has, they're probably waiting for Ace to be cleared towny to then funnel the information through him to avoid being killed. For now, nevermind me. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:04 Lysithea wrote: If none has spoken up against Ace soon enough (a BG dies tonight and one of the other BGs didnt have that BG on his list or a DT rolechecked him for mafia) he should be considered legit. If the DTs is paranoid they could all use one of their rolechecks just to be sure I guess, aslong as one them do it, it should be fine. They should contact him to prevent exactly this situation, the whole plan falls apart if the DTs dont report in, doesn't it? From there on out it's just a matter of checking the rest of the bunch of classroles and be sure that all of them are legit and thereon out the resistancegroup grows and more powerful it becomes. If there's too many reporting in for a certain role we're off to a great start I would say. We know that one of the persons in that small group is mafia. That should give us way better odds to work with, since there's only Xamounts of that role, and it also narrows the clues down to fewer persons to check them against. This has to be done within the secure group I guess, so we don't out the real blues. Also, Ace could maybe give them specific tasks to prove their role? What that would be I don't really know. Obviously the too-many-reported-for-a-role-group wouldn't get the primeinfo about the secure group until all of them are in the clear. Am I theorycrafting about this wrong? Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:08 Lysithea wrote:I knew about that one, what I meant was a more detailed list with google/wiki information regarding quotes/what their name mean/etc. I realize that would be a huge amounts of info to read and sort through and I know I wouldn't take the time to do it, that's why I'm asking . Also I know I asked this too early since if someone compiled it they want it to be funneled through the, currently not confirmed, legit mayor who can't die the next day. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:15 Lysithea wrote: That assumes no inactivees tho doesnt it? Say for example that mafia takes a chance on a blue role that happens to be inactive, before the 3day rule sets in they could've gotten alot of information. Also, that all people actually pm you... which I doubt will happen just because of lack of interest following this thread thoroughly. The only sure way to have the secure group... secure... is to systematically confirm their roles through various means... no? Or am I totally misunderstanding something here? Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:42 Lysithea wrote: Exactly what I want to avoid, losing because of a lucky move by mafia would suck. Ace says he can prevent that however. Can't really figure out how, guess I'll know by the time we have Ace confirmed and pms start flowing. I just want the secure group to be as secure it can get, with no holes in the path securing it Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:47 Lysithea wrote: K, I misinterpreted your "100% confirmed" statement in that case, sounded to me like they were cleared and ready to go or something. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:36 Lysithea wrote:Why are people waiting for a dt to confirm? Wasn't the whole point that if no dt/bg speak up against Ace's townmanship he's considered legit? Only thing we're waiting for is for the dts to have ample time to be sure they've done their thing. How long we wait is up to the masses I guess. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:20 Lysithea wrote: That's assuming mafia can't roleblock eachother.. can they? Nothing in the OP says they can't roleblock other mafias. Would be nice if Chuiu could answer this otherwise the grand plan could've been to roleblock ace for "proof" and therefore get a shitload of info on blues. Theorycrafting again, I'm pretty sure ace is legit myself, just getting my thoughts out there. I'd wait ~½-1day more before I'd completely trust him. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:27 Lysithea wrote:not 100% but yeah most probably , I know I'm trusting him by then. Anyway, 3:26 time to sleep. (I've been f5ing this thread like crazy, nothing to do + forum game = ???) Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:55 Lysithea wrote:Ouch, all was well with greenies in the text... then I scrolled down. :| Gotta sleep (6am), catching up tomorrow with a fully awake brain. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:15 Lysithea wrote:K, so, I copy-pasted the day posts into word and started to commentify them (mark a piece of text and then insert->comment) to then try and match each profile to the comments. I didn't finish that tho since when I was done marking the text I had 115 commentboxes. Matching each of the 123 profiles against 115 comments didn't really sound appealing to me. Anyway themes and things that I noticed while I read through the dayposts: <ul>*Stomach or gut is mentioned several times. *Eddie's the leader type who don't hesitate in his actions. He's also protective of his friends and got good attention to details. *Sidewinder is a poor fighter, he seems pretty out of control overall regarding his body. *There's several moments when the victims meet the mafia "face to face" or "met gaze with". *Two references to being shot with lead. *Two references to hair, none linked to the same person, might just be coincidence. *Mr Pink seems very brutal, holding on to the TOP of Mynocks head (the other part had broken off from the shot), even using it as a weapon tangled up in his hair... wtf? Oh, that also means Mr Pink got long hair I guess. *Mr Blonde seems to be very fast and agile, also comes out of nowhere. *The Wolf and The Taipan Snake isn't afraid of taking risks, atleast not afraid of jumping from high heights. *Someone likes smileys, or sick jokes. *Someone tampers with electronics. *So far, mafia has always arrived in greater numbers then their victims. Could just be that they anticipated medics? *Atleast two mafias like to use knifes or a sword. Cottonmouth, whom is skilled and accurate knifeperson seems to not feel any remorse and don't feel particularly unsettled to leave someone bleeding to death in pain. Snake Charmer lashed away at a defenseless target. *Two times there's a reference to investigate something, probably not relevant. *Several times is the face/head the primetarget during the fights. *Two references to people crawling. *A few times it looks like the victim might be able to flee but is always caught/attacked from nowhere, as if their last hope is taken away. </ul> Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:42 Lysithea wrote:I think alot of these are pretty far fetched and links bad but whatever. 11-ieatkids5 in reference to Mr Pinks brutal behaviour? Randombum/bumatlarge in reference to the "sickly looking fella" 57-LoStYouRSkiLLS Quote : Skill is when Luck becomes Habit Eddie was lucky with his attack. 89-butidigress Quote : between the click of the light and the start of the dream ... about the lamp etc. 97-suresh0t accurate with knifes guy. 98-decafchicken Quote : how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy? in reference to the gut/stomach thing, 109-MidnightGladius Quote : "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General in reference to sword/knifes, also in reference to the hope being taken away. 124-Lenwe Quote : What's up? in reference to face to face, met gaze with 128-KH1031 electronic themed name? 130-rpf Quote : "I'm sure God will understand, and if He does not, then He is not God at all." - Balian, Kingdom of Heaven in reference to the sentence "Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room --" K, some of these was pretty bad, none really convinced me fully. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 02:57 Lysithea wrote: yeah, you're right, my imagination got the better of me. It feels like I'm pretty bad at spotting clues and connections. None really convince me of anything unlike what others has come up with. I'll let people dig some before I cast my vote. I should say that I won't dispute any clues pointing towards me, cause well.. my quote often match to many different situations combatwise. Trying to prove my innocence in all cases will only lead to more suspicion.. or so I feel about it anyway (thinking about poor l2w last game). I mean, I got the agile smooth moving part in it, I got the right precise moment, I got the fast hurtful hitting part and I also got the experienced part with Ali himself. To save you from a google/wiki search. My name originated from a series I watched, later learned it got something to do with greek history/greek mythology, also a moon of jupiter. edit: bah I kinda defended myself now anyway.. heh Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 28 2008 00:13 Lysithea wrote:I'm getting seriously annoyed reading all the bs from showtimed. Go die already. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:22 Lysithea wrote:so uh, call me emo but this game feels less fun then the one I was spectating, dunno why really... maybe cause we actually got shit coordinated and not so much drama happening? Don't have much to say about the clues, most have been said already. I'll try to be more active next week or so got lots of shit to do. I really hope people stop playing against the rules if what Chuiu is saying is true. Anyway. I'm supposed to vote for wurm right? Wondering cause if I remember correct we were supposed to get a pm as well but I haven't got any. Voting for him for now... Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 16:14 Lysithea wrote:About the irc thing, if I remember correct Chuiu said last game that everything was fair game except for hacking TL.net accs and breaking the dead=you're out rule. They even encouraged it?.. or something. Atleast something not planned happened in the game, it's alive! Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:43 Lysithea wrote: 1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 23:48 Lysithea wrote:... and dapperdan dodging the messages or something. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:55 Lysithea wrote:Thank god for plexa still being alive or else I'd lost track in this game long time ago. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:03 Lysithea wrote: http://www.hybridworks.jp/ <- sort wallpapers, the theme I use is named "Yoritsuki". Dl the zip and you'll get the whole theme with icons, day/night wallpaper in diffrent sizes. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 02:41 Lysithea wrote:I know I'm kinda defending myself here but I feel that what I said earlier doesn't apply to this clue since it's incorrect. for reference to what I earlier stated: + Show Spoiler + On March 23 2008 02:57 Lysithea wrote: yeah, you're right, my imagination got the better of me. It feels like I'm pretty bad at spotting clues and connections. None really convince me of anything unlike what others has come up with. I'll let people dig some before I cast my vote. I should say that I won't dispute any clues pointing towards me, cause well.. my quote often match to many different situations combatwise. Trying to prove my innocence in all cases will only lead to more suspicion.. or so I feel about it anyway (thinking about poor l2w last game). I mean, I got the agile smooth moving part in it, I got the right precise moment, I got the fast hurtful hitting part and I also got the experienced part with Ali himself. To save you from a google/wiki search. My name originated from a series I watched, later learned it got something to do with greek history/greek mythology, also a moon of jupiter. edit: bah I kinda defended myself now anyway.. heh Now, about that clue pointing towards me. Someone saying that the moon Lysithea was red and then referencing to a pic called callist.jpg got me to google myself. While looking for pictures of the moon Lysithea (I havent found one yet that got color) I stumbled upon this site http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/planets/jupiter/moons.shtml where the exact same picture is used for the moon Callisto Also, on that site they say: Lysithea is Jupiter's eleventh moon. Lysithea is 15 miles (24 km) in diameter and orbits 7,200,000 miles (11,720,000 km) from Jupiter. Lysithea has a mass of 8 x 1016kg. It orbits Jupiter in 259.22 (Earth) days. Very little is known about Lysithea. Lysithea was discovered by S. Nicholson in 1938. The best picture I've found on the small Lysithea is on this page http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/nelson/jupmoons/jupmoons.html I hope that's enough regarding that clue, if there's something else that might be pointed to me, by all means bring them up, at least it continues the search and investigation. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 02:51 Lysithea wrote: Also, how did you get that link to reference to Lysithea? Trying to access http://www.fa.is/deildir/Stjornufraedi/ or any sort of link except for http://www.fa.is doesn't work for me. That pic just came out of nowhere Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:38 Lysithea wrote:red moon clue pointed at me was incorrect, that he still implied someone else then me still stands however. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 04:35 Lysithea wrote:Ok just came home and there's been a lot of new, almost confirmed, mafias from what I can tell. I voted for drdragoon when the whole horse thing came to light but do we have a plan or something where I'm supposed to vote for someone specific? Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:33 Lysithea wrote:What does "*first vote*" stand for in that compiled votelist? edit: ah, first person to vote for that person Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 09:39 Lysithea wrote: Cause trust is so much worth in this game , about the only thing one can do to prove their innocence is to find another person where the clues fit better... otherwise you're pretty much dead. Nature of the game. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 25 2008 22:45 Lysithea wrote:I see that I missed the last vote, not that it would matter anyhow. + Show Spoiler + Sheesh I'm not alone either; 33 of 85 possible votes accounted for. That's a lot of votes missing. Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:31 Lysithea wrote:I vote for Ace for Mayor.. for now. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:59 Lysithea wrote:I change my vote from Ace to randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:50 Lysithea wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:55 Lysithea wrote:Changing my vote to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 04:25 Lysithea wrote:Voting for wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 06:38 Lysithea wrote:I abstain from voting this round cause I got no idea what's happened since last week. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 16:51 Lysithea wrote:My first vote: evilmonkey My second vote: seifu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 01:24 Lysithea wrote:I vote for DrDragoon + Show Spoiler [MTF] + 54. MTF Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 04:19 MTF wrote:12 pages and the game hasn't even started yet. : x Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:11 MTF wrote: If he extended to exactly a day past when he originally intended to do roles, it should be in about two hours. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:54 MTF wrote: c.) Not cooperating on a united front and unconfirmed track record as a supposed medic. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:38 MTF wrote: You know you're a narcissistic bastard when you enjoy being analyzed for a forum game. :B *points to self* The only people I have any real suspicion of are bumatlarge and Queasy, both on seemingly the same set of clues. But, last game the clues that we (or at least I) thought were all interconnected were not; there would be clues for multiple people while just one mafia persona was being referenced. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 03:03 MTF wrote: Detectives can't check the abstain list, only lists of who voted for specific people. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 01:12 MTF wrote:One of the ways we could approach this is similar to what Ace devised earlier, splitting a vote into two groups. Just take the confirmed innocents and have them all abstain/vote for a specific suspicious person, while the rest are split into several groups to vote for other specific people, then have DT check the lists. In this manner, we know how many active voters = mafia and how many inactive are, and if we get very lucky, we could possibly get a slightly more significant number into a single list to narrow down the percentage of error. And, of course Everyone should be examining these people. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:19 MTF wrote:Unless the votes look stacked against another strong suspect, I'll be voting for useless. He seems to blatantly be Black Mamba as every encounter he is in, he is hit/misses his own hit. Looking into other clues at the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 04:05 MTF wrote:So after a few hours of off and on searching through every profile twice, I've come up with depressingly few links. Lysithea: Possibly Mr. Pink - Signature quote is from Ali, boxer and certainly able fighter. - Doesn't fit with the quiet clue, however. JimTudor: Possibly Mr. Blonde - Name is linked to a hockey player. I guess I'll be voting to lynch L and useless. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:00 MTF wrote:Cross-referencing the Mandalor list and the list Ace posted of people who rarely post: All on Ace's list and the Mandalor list. Gonna look into these peoples voting records, see if any of them are clumped together anywhere. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 20:03 MTF wrote:I will not count inactive votes beyond the Mayoral election. Known Mafia Voting Patterns: Mandalor: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace. Day 2: Abstain. Died this cycle. Queasy: [Fairly certain he was inactive after the beginning, given that he never voted again.] + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote, died this cycle. d.arkive: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Last Romantic Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Bumatlarge, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Died this cycle. Evilmonkey: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Ghar. Day 3: Ace, and abstain. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Died this cycle Total Similar Mafia Votes: Mayoral Vote: None. Day 2: Two did not vote. Day 3: No second votes. Day 4: No votes/abstained. Day 5: ~ Suspect Voting Patterns: ieatkids5: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Alethios: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar and Wurm. Day 4: Useless Day 5: Suresh0t and fusion. ZBiR: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Fusion. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm and BlindAlbino. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Unforgiven_ve: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu GranDim: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. LoStYouRSkiLLS: [Inactive?] + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Actually not on the Mandalor list in Chuiu's blog...? Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Lysithea: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. SoleSteeler: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: L and Siefu. GeneralStan: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar and Wurm. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. BWdero: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. butidigress: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. unsoundlogic: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. decafchicken: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Total Similar Suspect Votes: Mayoral Vote: Two no votes, four votes for Randombum, five votes for Empyrean. Day 2: Goes without saying. Day 3: Three for Ghar with no second vote, two no votes, five Wurm with no second vote. Day 4: Ten abstain/no vote, two for TranceStorm. Day 5: Seven voted for nobody, four for EvilMonkey and Siefu. Combined Totals - Mafia and Suspects: Mayoral vote: One Mafia and four suspects voted Randombum. One Mafia and one suspect voted for Ace. One Mafia and two suspects voted for nobody. Day 3: Two Mafia and eight suspects had no second votes. Day 4: Two Mafia and nine suspects did not vote or abstained. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 22:03 MTF wrote:Vote count for known Mafia and people not dead/confirmed innocent on the Mandalor list...I will not count inactive votes beyond the Mayoral election. + Show Spoiler + Known Mafia Voting Patterns: BlindAlbino: Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: str Day 3: str Day 4: araav Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Mandalor: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace. Day 2: Abstain. Died this cycle. Queasy: [Inactive?] + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote, died this cycle. d.arkive: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Last Romantic Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Bumatlarge, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Died this cycle. Evilmonkey: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Ghar. Day 3: Ace, and abstain. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Died this cycle Total Similar Mafia Votes: Mayoral Vote: None. Day 2: Two did not vote. Day 3: No second votes. Day 4: No votes/abstained. Day 5: ~ Suspect Voting Patterns: ieatkids5: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Two voted for Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Alethios: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar and Wurm. Day 4: Useless Day 5: Suresh0t and fusion. ZBiR: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Fusion. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm and BlindAlbino. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Unforgiven_ve: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu GranDim: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. LoStYouRSkiLLS: [Inactive?] + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Actually not on the Mandalor list in Chuiu's blog...? Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Lysithea: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. SoleSteeler: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: L and Siefu. GeneralStan: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar and Wurm. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. BWdero: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. butidigress: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. unsoundlogic: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. decafchicken: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean. Day 2: Mandalor. Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Last Romantic: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and abstain. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: SoleSteeler, no second vote. ShaLLoW[baY]: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm and Queasy Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. qrs: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Araav Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Showtime! Day 4: Araav Day 5: Suresh0t and Fusion. clazziquai: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. ahrara_: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm and Showtime! Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Falcynn: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. Scorch: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Fusion Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm and Bumatlarge. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: Siefu, no second vote. nemY: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm and Showtime! Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Bugzitooni, no second vote. MidnightGladius: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Abstain Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. L: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Eti307: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Bumatlarge. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. suresh0t: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. randombum: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Abstain Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. Artanis[Xp]: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Ninja4ever.: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Naib: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Wurm. Day 4: Fusion Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Romance_us: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Bumatlarge. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. RtS)Night[Mare: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Showtime! Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Jimtudor: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. Lenwe: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Showtime! Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: No vote. NatsuTerran: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Ninja4ever. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. 0cz3c: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. zeks: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: L, no second vote. Pangolin: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Bumatlarge. Day 4: Energies Day 5: No vote. SpiritoftheTuna: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. Energies: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and abstain. Day 4: d.arkive (Day before he blew himself up, however.) Day 5: No vote. BloodyC0bbler: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Abstain Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Bumatlarge. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. iNfuNdiBuLuM: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Showtime! Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. SoMuchBetter: [Inactive?] + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Camlito: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. fanatacist: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Bumatlarge. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. SonuvBob: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral Vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar and Randombum. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. TOTAL VOTE TALLY minus Ace and Plexa to save me some time ~Mayoral Vote~ Abstain/No vote: One Mafia and eight suspects. Ace: One Mafia and eleven suspects. Fusion: No Mafia and two suspects. Randombum: Two Mafia and eleven suspects. Empyrean: No Mafia and twelve suspects. I do not think any Mafia would vote for Empyrean after knowing he's a detective, so maybe those who did should be considered somewhat vindicated. Araav: No Mafia and one suspect. Day 3: No vote: One suspect. Bumatlarge, no second vote: One Mafia and no suspects. Ace, no second vote: One Mafia and no suspects. Ghar, no second vote: Nine suspects. Ghar and Wurm: Three suspects. Ghar and Showtime!: Four suspects. Ghar and Bumatlarge: Five suspects. Ghar and Ninja4ever: One suspect. Ghar and Randombum: One suspect. Wurm, no second vote: Thirteen suspects. Wurm and BlindAlbino: One suspect. Wurm and Queasy: One (Shallow[Bay]) suspect. Wurm and Showtime!: Two suspects. Wurm and Bumatlarge: One suspect. Day 4: No vote/Abstain: Two Mafia and thirty-two suspects. Useless: No Mafia and one suspect. Trancestorm: No Mafia and six suspects. Araav: No Mafia and one suspect. Fusion: No Mafia and one suspect. Energies: No Mafia and one suspect. D.arkive: No Mafia and one (Energies) suspect. Day 5: No vote/Abstain: Twenty-two suspects, seventeen of which did not vote/abstained on Day 4 as well. Evilmonkey and Siefu: Thirteen suspects. Suresh0t and Fusion: Two suspects. L and Siefu: One suspect. Solesteeler, no second vote: One suspect. Siefu, no second vote: One suspect. Bugzitooni, no second vote: One suspect. L, no second vote: One suspect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sadly, my efforts seemed to have been for nil, as I can find no discernable patterns. I thought perhaps that the large portion of Mafia and original suspects that abstained on days 4 and 5 might point to something helpful, but so many people either stopped voting or abstained that it's buried any helpful material that might be there. : / As for who I personally feel is guilty/innocent on the list...The only person I'm reasonably sure (outside of Ace/Plexa) that is innocent is Shallow. Not because of his voting for Queasy, but just his general helpful approach this game and that he's voted a straight townie line, aka not spreading votes all over the place. I have some general suspicions about many of the people left, but nothing concrete lines up with them yet. Time to dive back into the profiles. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote:L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty. Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler + Original Message: hi! i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning: "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time." this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing. now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits... Traits - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) ... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well. furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly. and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well. Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall. Looking into others... Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 23:13 MTF wrote:Aznvaliance made the first post about TranceStorm's name being connected to electricity. LTT posted the same idea a few pages later, but didn't seem too convinced of it. Naib was advocating a double lynch to get both Useless (confirmed innocent now) and TranceStorm or Energies. Nothing solid on him, but his post rings of false enthusiasm to me. I'll look to see if I can connect anything to chess, royalty, or things that begin one way many times but always end up different later. Nobody else really seems to have pushed for TranceStorm's demise. GeneralStan questioned Ace's role after Ace told everyone to lynch Mandalor. BlindAlbino questioned Mandalors' guilt and then stated he believes str to be Mafia. Infundibulum made what could be interpreted as an almost passive-aggressive remark about Mandalor being doomed, then went on to accuse Ghar, str, Energies, Kau, and LostYourSkills. Nobody else made any remarks of note that I saw. Nobody tried to stand in the way of Evilmonkey going down either, from what I saw. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 05:09 MTF wrote:Just as a sort of summary for myself from that false list... Innocents: Empyrean - Dead/innocent. Plexa - Most probably innocent. ~OpZ~ - Proven innocent. Unknowns MTF - Innocent, but can't really prove that. JoxxOr SpiritoftheTuna - On the Mandalor list. Pangolin - On the Mandalor list. NatsuTerran - On the Mandalor list. Eti307 - On the Mandalor list. Romance_us - On the Mandalor list. BloodyC0bbler - On the Mandalor list. Mafia d.arkive - Mafia I'm fairly sure there can't be more than one Mafia left altogether in that list, unless Mafia got greedy and tried to get a large early boost. What I think is more likely is that everyone remaining on the list is innocent; Mafia knew d.arkive would be revealed at some point and I don't think they'd risk throwing more Mafia in such a list as bait later. Unless we're dealing with stupid people, but based on the number of blues dead, I doubt it. Also, I don't remember the exact timing of this list, but I know I was a suspect of Plexa's for a little bit, so all the more reason for me to be on a fake list with a confirmed Mafia in it. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 19:32 MTF wrote: Nah, I don't automatically assume that you are Mafia because of the PM. It does, however, put you under more scrutiny. I know everyone believed Ghar was guilty and I mentioned that the clues did seem to add up, but I have to look more closely at those who seemed to push the most at the beginning and tried to allay doubts as to the persons guilt. Posted in night7/main_page.220 Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:17 MTF wrote: SoMuchBetter - Nnnot quite sure where this one is coming from. Jimtudor - Again, no quite sure. He was on my list of suspects as Mr. Blonde in the past because of him sharing his name with a hockey player, which doesn't really fit with Red's theme of falling down. The only other connection I know of is to the Tudor family, and the only connection to falling down I can find there is the back and forth instability of each successors religious views. Lysithea - I reallllly like this one. The moon clue fits, and I'm still half-convinced the Ali quote has come into play before as Mr. Pink has several times shown himself to be able to fight/move fast. Nemy - It's a little fragile, but as searches for Nemy have only brought up a former New York Times female reporter, it's plausible that the image would be used in such a way. Naib - I like the connection to Joe, though I'm not sure how Enigma is likewise connected. In either case, I still have a gut feeling about this guy. The rest I've seen different bits of evidence alluding to them by several peoples posts, so no surprise they're all gathered there. All in all, I think Lysithea is the strongest candidate for lynching, at least until the next day post and more clues come. I'd like you to elaborate on why you suspect these people in more detail, especially SoMuchBetter and Jimtudor, as they must have reasoning that I'm just not seeing to be so high on your list. Posted in night7/main_page.220 Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:39 MTF wrote: Alright, I'm actually happy about this, because of two things: 1. Any time Mafia is reduced to so few odds, town gets a huge boost. 50/50 isn't a bad draw at all, and if you get it wrong the first time, odds bump up to 100%! 2. I already know which one of us it is. The problem is, I can't really pinpoint MidnightGladius to a Mafia. The strongest connection I see is the simplest, being that Snake Charmer is thus far only known for using swords. The only other possible reference I have found is this character from Magic: The Gathering, but I haven't been able to link the character to any of the Mafia traits besides being cruel, which most of them habitually are. But either way, town wins from it being narrowed down to us two. Just a matter of what happens first before a Mafia is found. I like this connection quite a bit. Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:46 MTF wrote: That seems like a bigger stretch than Lysithea's name being directly connected to a moon. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 04:02 MTF wrote:Alright, focusing on a few non-English names for the moment, as those are the hardest for the general population to associate things with naturally or search for. 1. ZBiR Croatian word. Translations in English include addition, aggregate (a collection of smaller units into a larger mass), and total. 2. Puosu Finnish word. Translation in English is a boatswain. This is an officer in charge of general deck work on a sailing ship or an officer on a merchant ship who oversees the work of others. 3. Clazziquai Korean fusion band. 4. Ziel German or Dutch. German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target. Dutch translation is soul. I'm gonna work at some of the more ambiguous names and signatures/quotes later. | ||
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54. MTF Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 06:02 MTF wrote:To be clear, likely candidates in the case of acronyms are simply those definitions that have been pointed at before or, in most cases, the easiest to work with in the case of creating clues. I will omit those that have already been described, such as Naib. 1. Eti307 Many acronyms for Eti here. Likely candidates include elapsed time indicator, estimated time of intercept, and extraterrestrial intelligence. "A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new" is a quote attributed to Albert Einstein. 2. HotZhot Could be pronounced similarly to hotshot. I Only Smile in the Dark is the name of a book about a young man immersed in gothic/industrial culture. It is penned by Aaron Reardon. 3. CDRdude Many acronyms for CDR here. Likely candidates include commander and conductor. 4. So no Fek Two acronyms for fek: File encryption key and frequency exchange keying. 5. Fen As I don't think Chuiu would use the same definition to build clues off of in the case of Fen getting Mafia again, some more likely definitions are: an acronym for Far East Network, which was a network of radio and televisions stations in Japan, Korea, and other parts of East Asia. A unit of money in mainland China. "Procrastination. Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." is a quote attributed to Larry Kersten. 6. nemY Enid Nemy was a reporter for the New York Times. As mentioned by nemY already, "You're in my soul, you're in my mind, but I don't know where you are now" is a part of a song by Stereophonics called Stone. + Show Spoiler + I don’t know why I let you go You said you’d wait I said I’d hope you would We talked ‘til late until we walked away What’s meant to be will be the same And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now Driving round and round until its dawn To look for you in rooms we used to go I held you back, I had to set you free But now I know what’s meant to be And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now You’re in my soul You’re in my mind But I don’t know where you are now 7. LTT Many acronyms for LTT here. Not many candidates as far as easy access. "We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure." is a quote from the character Rosencrantz from Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead. 8. str Many acronyms for str here. Likely candidates are Santa Rosa, smile/talk/raise both arms, square to round, strength, straight, and strip. 9. qrs Many acronyms for qrs here. A likely candidate is quick reaction strike. 10. Infundibulum An infundibulum is a funnel-shaped cavity or organ. 11. MTF Many acronyms for MTF here. Likely candidates include move to front, move to follow, and male-to-female transsexual. "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." is a quote from a self-righteous narcissist. 12. Heros)Pink Tendresse means tender feeling. 13. 0cz3c "Num negas audes? Quid taces? Convincam, si negas; video enim esse hic quosdam qui tecum una fuerunt. O di immortales!" is a quote from Cicero's First Oration Against Catiline. "...and he drove Catiline from the city by four vehement speeches, the Catiline Orations, in which he described Catiline and his followers' debaucheries, and denounced his followers as a company of dissolute senators and assorted rogues who, deeply in debt, latched onto Catiline as a last hope. Cicero vehemently urged Catiline and his followers to leave the city." 14. Ziel "The cake is a lie!" is the title of the ending song to the videogame Portal. + Show Spoiler + This Was A Triumph I'm Making A Note Here: HUGE SUCCESS It's hard to overstate my satisfaction. Aperture Science We do what we must because we can. For the good of all of us. Except the ones who are dead. But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. And the Science gets done. And you make a neat gun. For the people who are Still Alive I'm not even angry. I'm being so sincere right now. Even though you broke my heart. And killed me. And tore me to pieces. And threw every piece into a fire. As they burned it hurt because I was so happy for you! Now these points of data make a beautiful line. And we're out of beta. We're releasing on time. So I'm GLAD. I got burned. Think of all the things we learned for the people who are still alive. Go ahead and leave me. I think I prefer to stay inside. Maybe you'll find someone else to help you. Maybe Black Mesa. . . THAT WAS A JOKE. HAHA FAT CHANCE. Anyway. this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist. Look at me still talking When Theres Science to do. When I look out there, it makes me GLAD I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing Science and I'm still alive. T feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive. While you're dying I'll be still. And when you're dead I will be still alive. STILL ALIVE 15. Hollander Picture is of Manny from Grim Fandango. 16. jtan "Enter a Uh" is the title of a very confusing song by John Frusciant. + Show Spoiler + You see me now While ago You could shred this size only You are a blender uh We are always be with you with be me hey I am masculine to all the lie I am a boy and i know about him only Line life ago i made her Give me heeee i know Made her sky my (??) To high can't be we are Higher can be we are Higher couple we are I could be we uh ah La la la la la la la ahhh oi oi oi ya o o Enter a uh While (??) Alright... We we are all I am only reveal a gold demon I am yeller Kiss me there where I bother told about her film and make her sensorial (4:00) I see i mean Without me Like it's ocean Well i've been on there Withavidavida screwer Withavidavida screwer Aii aiii aii oiii oiii -(very high pitch) heeeelp- You seen the same order ohh you missed You headless eyes lonely babe lord i was ready yaaay I was gonna dream that if we were yaaay. ohh. I wonder if we were (??) Leave me alone me said I'm afraid But which from one more buy Bad brown wears is bad Round round lonely babe into drain Diss it very good look me for the colder Bad feel. Bad sky while (??) lion lame life lame life lies on land Skies fuck you I wanna kiss meet you Devote you to help I (??) stains for father reaches his back Well into a bowl It isn't so task true key Insandrium heart leave back Daughter danger life Why? Cuz they all know 17. BWdero Many possible links to dero here. No likely candidates stand out. 18. AcrossFiveJulys "You must be crazier than a fish with tities" is part of R. Kelly's ongoing Trapped in the Closet. 19. Ninja4ever. "Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live for ever." is a quote from famed pacifist Gandhi. 20. Pangolin The Pangolin is a scaly anteater. 21. butidigress "between the click of the light and the start of the dream" is part of a song called No Cars Go by Arcade Fire. + Show Spoiler + (Hey!) (Hey!) We know a place where no planes go We know a place where no ships go (Hey!) No cars go (Hey!) No cars go Where we know We know a place no spaceships go We know a place where no subs go (Hey!) No cars go (Hey!) No cars go Where we know (Hey!) (Hey!) (Hey! Again!) (No go!) (Hey!) Us kids know (Hey!) No cars go Where we know Between the click of the light and the start of the dream Between the click of the light and the start of the dream Between the click of the light and the start of the dream Between the click of the light and the start of the dream "I don't want any pushing, and I don't want any shoving. We're gonna do this in an orderly manner. Women and children! Women and children! Women and children, let's go! Old folks, let's go! Babies needing cribs, let's go!" 22. Scorch "What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy." is from a song called Know Your Enemy by Rage Against the Machine. + Show Spoiler + Huh! Yeah, were comin back then with another bombtrack Think ya know what its all about Huh! Hey yo, so check this out Yeah! Know your enemy! Come on! Born with insight and a raised fist A witness to the slit wrist, thats with As we move into 92 Still in a room without a view Ya got to know Ya got to know That when I say go, go, go Amp up and amplify Defy Im a brother with a furious mind Action must be taken We dont need the key Well break in Something must be done About vengeance, a badge and a gun cause Ill rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system I was born to rage against em Fist in ya face, in the place And Ill drop the style clearly Know your enemy...know your enemy! Yeah! Hey yo, and dick with this...uggh! Word is born Fight the war, fuck the norm Now I got no patience So sick of complacence With the d the e the f the I the a the n the c the e Mind of a revolutionary So clear the lane The finger to the land of the chains What? the land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy? Now something must be done About vengeance, a badge and a gun cause Ill rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system I was born to rage against em Now action must be taken We dont need the key Well break in Ive got no patience now So sick of complacence now Ive got no patience now So sick of complacence now Sick of sick of sick of sick of you Time has come to pay... Know your enemy! Come on! Yes I know my enemies Theyre the teachers who taught me to fight me Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite All of which are american dreams (8 times) 23. suresh0t "Please forgive me for questioning divinity, it's an ugly job but I think I'm up for it" is a part of a song called Rise Up!! Rise Up!! by Cursive. + Show Spoiler + dear preacher, thanks for making time for me today hope you don't mind if i hide behind the curtain it's been fifteen years since my last confession by your good book's standards, i've sinned like a champion but that book seems a tad bit out-dated please forgive me, for questioning divinity it's an ugly job, but i think i'm up for it i'm not saying who's right i'm just saying there's more than one way to skin a religion there's more than one way to explain our existence reverend, sir, i don't want to seem malevolent my teenage angst is far behind me but father, certainly it's troubling to see all these people kneeling, instead of dealing with the fact that we are all we have so, rise up! rise up! there's no one to worship! but plenty of life to lose! i'm not saying "let's burn down the church" but do you want to hear my confession? it's my greatest sin.. okay, here it is: i wasted half my life on the thought that i'd live forever! i wasn't raised, to seize the day, but to work and worship 'cause "he that liveth and believeth" supposedly never dies rise up! rise up! and live a full life! 'cause when it's over, it's done so rise up! rise up! dance and scream and love! [barely audible outro] you're not the chosen one and i'm not the chosen one 24. DamageControl Many connections to DamageControl here. 25. SpiritoftheTuna "La Pomme Damour" translates into "the love-apple". 26. AmorVincitOmnia AmorVincitOmnia translates into Love Conquers All. "brown skin woman you a queen" is part of a song called Brown Skin Woman by Krs-one. + Show Spoiler + {kid capri} Aiyyo kris, yo yo yo! That was fresh, come with that next shit Uhh! fat fat fat fat beats! .. How refreshing is it really? How refreshing is it really? ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! whoo! .. Big shout out to philly in the house G. simone, you know youre not alone Krs-one on the micraphone Now we gonna come down ruffneck like this now seen? Mad lion hold tight Chorus: Brown skin woman, you a queen, not a hoe Any man that drop the lyric what we give them the bo Brown skin woman you a queen and not a hoe Any man that drop the lyric what we give them the bo Verse one: We dont come with disrespect, we come with intellect If you come with disrespect you get a rope around your neck Some people dont expect me, to be so violent But me nah violent, just myself I protect Too many time I see, young gwal pickadee Pay five ten twenty thirty dollar to see Some rapper some singer some .. celebrity Talk bout they wan fi sex up and fill up you body But them nah talk about peelin off some money For the pumpin onna bed, when you haf the baby Whattaya think can happen next? after youre done havin sex? Too much of ignorance, not enough intellence Mahn me not against sex, but too many dj Talk sex but them not talk about the next day Cause the next day them gone, and you sit alone Got em soup up your mic, pon de micraphone Chorus (w/ minor variations) Verse two: Brown skin gwal them cant diss yo Cause you run the show-ow-ow! Them call you all type of bimbo But you know youre not a hoe-oe-oe! Bwoy pickade, check out your history Brown man is a God in any ci-ty White, man knew dat, and dat was a shock So dem whip up your bod, and dem whippin not stop But dem nah cant stop us wit de whip and de chain So dem take away your history, erase your name Still, with no name, with no fight, with no fuss We just, take on the name, that massa give us That name is ni-gga, the correct is ne-gro Its spa-nish for black, white mahn call us dat There is also ne-groid, also ne-gro Now, all nigga pon the corner playin cee-lo Man youre not a ne-gro, cause youre skin is not black Take a look at yourself, youre brown and thats a fact You not jump from no tree, you not live in no cave Thats some garbage dem print, dem want you to behave! You a african man, some say asian You must respect your love, all brown skin oman! If you diss your oman, you not come wit no plan So shut up your mowf, til you must understand! Chorus (w/ minor variations) Outro: I know you want me to call you a nigga.. no! I know you want me to call you a hoe.. no! I know you want me to call you a bitch.. no! This is how it go! {kid capri} Yes kris, youre large! Another fat production by the kiiiiid capri Big shouts to the engineer naughty Big shouts to luca, and we outttttttta here! Peeeeeeeeeeace! 27. zeks A zek is a Russian slang term for an inmate. 28. Klive5ive 5ive was a British band. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I hope day post comes somewhat soon, I'm getting kinda bored. : x Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 07:12 MTF wrote: I've no doubt you're correct, but what you know and what Chuiu the clue maker knows don't match. Therefore, what is actually the reason behind any given persons name is not necessarily a key to deciphering clues. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 07:16 MTF wrote: I think you are correct when you guess that this is not common knowledge. XD Thank you for the elaboration. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:26 MTF wrote:Alright, I know we're supposed to be focusing on the Mandalor list, and my suspects are centered around that at the moment as I review the day posts. However, I am 100% sure I have a Mafia pegged, and I can't believe I never noticed it before. Take a look.. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. The point of all of these clues is one of two things: Black Mamba is physically helpless and CANNOT SEE. This is why he feels his way up to kick Yogurt, why Eddie has to yell at him to warm him about the switch, why Black Mamba is alarmed by the gunshot and proceeds to miss his attempts to stomp the man, why Eddie went back to help him in the first place, and why he is so easily hit; he can't dodge because he can't see. BLACK MAMBA IS BLINDALBINO how the fuck did I miss this before? Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:36 MTF wrote:Various notes on Mafia and some conclusions from clues. Bolded bits are clues/conclusions I feel strongly about. Misc/seemingly unattached words that hinted: - The red moon stared back in the face like a terrifying omen lights out - lamp moved to center of room - smiley in place of shotgun - when four men intercepted them - fight an army if one would present itself - fortunately/unfortunately shows up multiple times - surrounded on all sides - "the fourth man" has been mentioned specifically twice Eddie: - Pointed the gun on day one, but doesn't specify he shot it; he's only used the gun during panic. - Seems to frequently help his fellow Mafia, i.e. helping Black Mamba and holding down Empyrean for D.arkive. - Doesn't seem to be afraid of violence. - Got the lucky kick in on day 2 and then proceeded to kick Yogurt repeatedly in the gut. This fits LostYourSkills quote in that he started off lucky and then became skilled/habitual with his kicks. Joe: - Strongly supports leader/helps his friends. - Seems to be polite/well spoken. - Acts when people try to leave. See: Mr. Red: - The big one that bugs the shit out of me, he keeps losing his balance and falling over. - Has never spoken. - Threw something on the ground that made Lenwe slip, possibly the same substance in the next clue. - Though not named specifically, at the beginning of Day 3 he was outside of Dinmsab's house throwing "matter" at the window and beckoning him out. Mr. Red is confirmed this person by the following: Mr. Red was the fourth person introduced into the story in the line immediately after he saw the fourth man. Enigma, California Mountain Snake, and Mr. Orange were in the house before him. Mr. Blonde: - Is prone to attacking through bodily means. - Is very fast; I thought he was invisible, but looking at the "jetted" comment on Day 5, I think he is just very fast. My prime suspect for Mr. Blonde is Jimtudor. Jim Tudor is the name of a hockey player. Hockey players tend to be quite physical and reach great speeds on the ice. King Brown Snake: - Appears inhuman or deformed. - HE IS A MIDGET! Or at least very short. Look: My prime suspect is Crazie-Penguin. Penguins are short, cannot punch (and therefore may use slapping as an attack), and the word maddened refers to madness or insanity. The Wolf: - Seems to be patient/apologetic. - Accurate. He "made his mark" on Chuiu on Day 1 and threw a nail down the hallway square into the back of New104's head. - Doesn't ever seem to be directly involved in trying to kill to start with; he always interrupts or stumbles along the action, with the exception of Chuiu. Enigma: - Seems prideful and arrogant. - He has notable features and Empyrean notes specifically that he doesn't have the means to detain Enigma. These seem to signify a clue pointing towards something inhuman. Mr. Pink: - Calm and careful. Calculated. - Is a good fighter, - Is quiet/soft spoken. - Suggested the beating of Fishball rather than shoot. - Seems to be connected to things being parted into two. Mr. Brown: - Repeatedly mentions staring at victims. - Mr. Brown comes up the stairs directly behind Mr. Blonde, perhaps mirroring his movement. My prime suspect for Mr. Brown is nemY, for the mirror clue. However, I do not feel this is strong enough yet. Snake Charmer: - MIDNIGHTGLADIUS DAMMIT Cottonmouth: - Has a very strong numbers theme, though they don't add up to the same sum when you just take into account his weapons; but what about the entire day posts? I'll be looking into this after posting. Potentially solved - Key number seems to be 44, who is str on the list. + Show Spoiler + Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 44 Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 Credit to Plexa for pointing out the days corresponding with the numbers. Credit to qrs for finding a missing two in Day 2. Mr. White: - He has never been in a prolonged fight - He always just comes in and makes the finishing blow. - Probably relating to the clue above, he is habitually late and/or lazy. - Speaking of the finishing blow, both have been crushing of heads. California Mountain Snake: - If someone can find a link to anyone with Oddball, the bond villain who threw his hat, I will love you. - Perhaps someone with a musical tie as well, as per the "singing". Mr. Orange: - Doesn't like/interrupts sound. - Has never spoken. Copperhead: - Seems to enjoy giving choices. There is someone with a quote saying "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- even a boat!" Copperhead gave a choice between left or right, and whatever was in his right pocket bulged too large for his pocket. This is 0cz3c's quote.. Mr. Black: - Strong, obviously. - Seems to create a sticky substance. - Note that as Mr. Black was still climbing through the window JeeJee attacked Copperhead who was already in the room without waiting, yet Mr. Black is the one who grabbed the bat. Perhaps this signifies an extra-long reach or something similar. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 17:37 MTF wrote:Alright, now counting up the numbers/number words mentioned on the days Cottonmouth was present. I count the entire days post instead of just the number of weapons like we previously tried. Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 42 45 if we count three for each of Neax's legs, but it doesn't specifically say three twice. Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That is close. Really damn close. So incredibly close and with Cottonmouth's identity certainly hinging on numbers that I think I must be missing something. Someone, anyone (except you, BlindAlbino), please check Day 2 Post and Day 4 Post to see if you come up with a different count. It's too damned close to not be something, I'm just missing numbers somewhere in Day 2 or not adding enough in the both of them. On a side note, SonuvBob is number 42 on the list and str is number 44. Of the two, str seems the more likely candidate for the number clues, as he has little information in his name/profile to go on. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:12 MTF wrote: Ah, that does seem likely. Well, it may not catch another Mafia, but at least there's a set of clues you know you don't need to look at anymore. Er, wait, I'm distracted. The indecipherable yells and climbing up make sense, but I'm not entirely sure. Maybe you'll know for sure when Day comes; hopefully one of the two gets a mention. Posted in night7/main_page.224 Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:24 MTF wrote: O shit, I just now noticed that the extra numbers correspond to the days they appeared. I'm tired. XD Nice catch. I've gone through the list several times and I'm pretty confident that I haven't missed anything unless Chuiu is counting select a's (a nail/another nail) or has words like few or several as specific numbers. But I don't think he does, so I'd say MasterOfChaos is a good bet for Cottonmouth. If he shows up tomorrow, count 'em again and see if it's 46 and you'll know for sure. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 19:46 MTF wrote:Something to note: Both made much earlier today. These seem to imply that ieatkids and eti307 are innocent, whilst LostYourSkills is almost certainly Mafia. (Eddie) I'm still alive, barely. Trying to track down that god damned Mr. Red before I get taken out. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:08 MTF wrote:Stalled myself out for a moment to retrieve BlindAlbino's voting record: BlindAlbino Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: str Day 3: str Day 4: araav Day 5: EvilMonkey and Siefu. Interesting to note: Both Queasy and BlindAlbino originally voted for Ace, and then switched over to randombum near the end of the vote count. People that did similar moves: Clazziquai Hollander Crazie-penguin (though for good enough reasons) GeneralStan LTT Unforgiven_ve 0cz3c Myself (I seem to get caught in suspicious places constantly. XD) People of suspicion who also voted randombum: Suresh0t GrayArea (Just have a sort of feeling, dunno if there's anything to it.) BWdero Ninja4ever. Lysithea L Just throwing it out there, particularly because the day 1 post mentioned the "right mayor" being elected and randombum also being on the Mandalor list. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:38 MTF wrote:Ok, I've been through every profile twice and I can't anything stronger than one single flimsy idea. Falling a lot = clumsy intially, but it could also be simply interpreted as an imbalance or a general lack of stability. Through the latter reasoning, Crazie-penguin's name comes to mind. But, this is a pretty weak connection, though I think the instability definition should be kept in mind. I'll try to interpret some of the others I don't have strong suspects on, but I'm almost out of steam. Slumber looms. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:54 MTF wrote: Yeah, I hoped the same. There's still a lot of suspects in the randombum group, though. Also, check out my first post on page 216. I compiled all the Mandalor list/known Mafia votes right after Evilmonkey got lynched. It doesn't help much, but it's a quick reference for now. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 22:07 MTF wrote:General Suspects Beyond Those Mentioned Earlier: Strong suspects will be italic. King Mountain Snake: (if not EvilMonkey) Smurfingchobo: He's really the only person I see fitting the tiny, but still personlike description. The Wolf: Suresh0t: He is here only by virtue of his name. Mr. Orange: Lysithea: Reasoning is that Lysithea is a moon, and everyone knows that if you scream (or call for help) in space, nobody can hear you. Unsoundlogic: Reasoning is that unsound is clearly a lack of sound, which seems to be Mr. Orange's theme. California Mountain Snake: Clazziquai: Reasoning is, firstly, it is a Korean band. This fits in with the singing; to tie the weapon/hat/respectful manner in is Oddball. Oddball was Korean born in the Bond movies. He never talked, wore a suit, and threw a metal rimmed bowler hat that famously decapitated a statue in one of the movies. Note: If he turns up Mafia later, look hard at Randombum. Copperhead: 0cz3c: Reasoning is purely based off his speech and 0cz3c's profile quote. Both allude to two choices, one being a mystery, and in Copperhead's speech the object in his right pocket bulged to the point of it seeming impossible to hold whatever was inside. This coincides with the quote. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay, so it's finally time to rest for me; if day comes while I'm asleep, it'll most probably be eternal slumber. But, it was a good run, so if it is, it is. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:20 MTF wrote:I'm back for the moment. Ahahaha, BlindAlbino screwed his fellows over. XD I'll make a quick summary of those he tried to kill and those he protected. People He Repeatedly Accuses/Accuses Without Them Already Being Lynched: therefore probably innocent Eti307 ieatkids aznvaliance suresh0t Energies araav bumatlarge - Was innocent, now dead through Vigi kill. str - Very frequently. People He Protects: LostYourSkills Lysithea (Claiming that the red moon connected to EvilMonkey instead) Queasy - Comfirmed Mafia MidnightGladius Bugzitooni - All three from the same post Plexa bolded; one is comfirmed, another is highly suspect, and the last is so as well for being together with them. Mandalor - Comfirmed Mafia Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:32 MTF wrote: Well, if you do it's gonna be confusing as all hell. But, we'll see. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:30 MTF wrote: Uhhh...After for sure taking down BlindAlbino and also making strong connection to LostYourSkills through the clue/BlindAlbino trying to save him, as well as the Cottonmouth numbers adding up to 40 + the Day Number (thanks to Plexa!), anyone trying to claim I'm Mafia is very, very cynical. XD If it is truly 100% between me and you, then I know who it is. But even if it isn't, I still would suspect you for the sword references, being on the Mandalor list, and BlindAlbino protecting you in the very same post that he protected a confirmed Mafia. I think you're just trying to sway the town before Day comes, but it's really too late for that and I can't see any argument clearing you or condemning me. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:23 MTF wrote:Alright, I'm looking pointedly at King Brown Snake again, trying to pin him down. Definite clues: He is very short and doesn't appear to be human/appears to be deformed as he is "a strange man". I believe this is a strong allusion to the person not being human, as Chuiu can't just come right out and say such. Suspect: Crazie-Penguin: Penguins are short and would most definitely be strange looking if assumed a man. Also note this: Slapped is a rather specific phrase. A penguin cannot punch, but they could slap. And this: Maddened is, again, a specific phrase. Madness is a term for insanity, or craziness. Edit: He is the only person other than SmurfingChobo who I can find a link to shortness with as well, and there is more evidence for Crazie than Smurfing. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:36 MTF wrote:Also note that on each of the three days King Brown Snake was in, he has never spoken. This may point towards him being incapable of speech. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:25 MTF wrote: I'm pretty sure Mafia is going to kill me before then. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 09:54 MTF wrote: o_O Anddd I'm pinning the hell out of Mafia because...? Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:09 MTF wrote:Alright, just finished collecting all my stuff and made a blog post.. Just want to make sure all my info doesn't get lost when/if I die, so shoved it all in there. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 11:36 MTF wrote:Random note about Joe - he acts when people try to leave/have their backs turned. See: Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:07 MTF wrote: Well, it's not quite like he had a chance with the amount of evidence against him. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 15:11 MTF wrote: Yay, I got another day of life left in me! Yes, though I feel already that it's pretty strongly evident as is. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 16:27 MTF wrote:Random Possible Mr. Pink Note: He seems connected with things being split into two, and more particularly things that are in two by other peoples hands. (which is really strange, but seems to be present) See: Note that Mr. Brown was present during Mynock's death and that he was the one who broke the phone in half, so this may point to him instead. I believe it points to Pink, however, as Brown was not present when Mynock's head was presented as in half. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 19:00 MTF wrote:H'okay... Firstly, Mr. White: I noted before that Mr. White never seems to be involved with any of the fights until the last moment, in which he does the finishing move. Upon repeated inspection, I've noted some other traits. Take a look. These all add up to one of two (or both) things: Mr. White is lazy or constantly late/last. Suspect: ieatkids5 - Let me clarify at the start that I am nowhere near 100% sure on this guy. The only reason I suspect him is because of his quote dealing with procrastination, being that laziness pays off now rather than working towards a later goal. Easy arguments against this are that there are no obvious connections with smashing in heads and that he was one of the people BlindAlbino was pushing to be lynched. Because of these two things I do not yet feel strongly that he is Mr. White. He is, however, the closest match I have at the moment, with his quote covering both laziness and waiting 'til the last second. Next, Random Note About Mr. Blonde: Notice that, although Mr. Blonde is very physical, he has never killed anyone through physical contact. He has only killed with a gun, and both (one time not mentioned specifically, but me and seemingly Plexa as well believe the clue refers to him) times it doesn't just leave the clue at "shot". Possibly not even a clue, but it is noteworthy to me that he has only ever killed with a gun despite attacking every other time physically. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 20:04 MTF wrote: Words like "a" and "the" are not specific number mentions. ALL of the numbers I counted in both day posts were specific numeric references. Words like "two", "once", "fourth", and "one" are clearly number references, in accordance to Cottonmouth definitely being connected to numbers. Also, the fact that the numbers that come up when these two days added are just two apart and that by subtracting the SPECIFIC day that it was on you come up with 40 both times, I find little room for coincidence. No offense, but your logic is shoddy. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 20:47 MTF wrote:Okay. Just to show you/anyone else with doubts that my numbers add up here, I will bold and capitalize every number reference I counted for both days for easy reference. + Show Spoiler + Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against TWO men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Unfortunately Mynocks neighbors were alerted by this blast, fortunately they were being taken care of the very same moment. NeaX and goldenkrnboi were drinking and gaming, not giving much thought to what had happened that day when they heard the shot from the house next to them. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. They were going to confront the man when another came through the back door. Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but ONE by ONE FOUR more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the THREE men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him ONE gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target ONCE more and finished him off throwing THREE knives into each of his legs and THREE in his back. NeaX didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly. Yogurt and ONEBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door. They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. They were almost to Mynocks house when FOUR men intercepted them. Yogurt and ONEBlueAugust saw them and ONEBlueAugust asked them what was going on in the house. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if ONE would present itself. Fortunately only FOUR men stood in their path and ONEBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the FOURTH man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. ONEBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against ONEBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed ONEBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. ONEBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as ONEBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally ONEBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. The mafia had tried their best that night and had finished with their hits, but no one could explain the blasted remains of CTStalker that night. + Show Spoiler + In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed FIVE nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab SIX more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge THREE more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Later that night Winston was hot on the trail of Kau, who he had chased out of a dark alley. Kau assumed he had encroached on the wrong territory as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. He was just about to the end when he noticed Kau. He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. It was later yet and dawn was approaching, Queasy was stumbling home and leaving a trail of puke with him. Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do. He noticed Queasy approaching and saw how completely out of it the man was. He decided to have some fun and started spray painting Queasy's back as he walked by. Well Queasy wasn't as bad as Showtime! had thought and he spun around quick as the wind and landed a punch square in Showtime!'s right eye knocking him out. An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! straight through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it. Ordell was running from across the street after seeing what just happened. He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. He removed the knife from Showtime!'s corpse as he inspected it, a towny he thought to himself. He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around. "Lets see how you like it" he said as he stabbed Queasy through the heart, ending his life and a long night for the town of Liquidia. Notice that the number references stop as soon as the people with numbers in their names die? Chuiu obviously set the day post totals up in such a way that their names were part of the equation, as not a single specific number reference exists in either day after the named person dies. O, and just so you know, I did go through and count the "a"s and the possessive "the"s, and came up with radically different numbers when I was still confused about why they weren't adding up to the same exact number. Then I saw Plexa's post and it all came together. Tell me it doesn't all add up or make sense again if you want, but if you do, I want you to tell me exactly why it doesn't, because what I've posted is pretty damn exact. Posted in night7/main_page.229 Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 21:15 MTF wrote: 1: Just because he hasn't doesn't mean he wouldn't. You say it's easy to twist the clues, but reading my bold/capitalized you can clearly see I haven't done anything but count numeric references. ALL of them that are specifically numeric and NONE that are not. And you've yet to provide any specific "tweaks". 2: If you wanna be stubborn about it... Once: n. A single occurrence; one time: Once will have to do. You can go just this once. It is clearly a numeric reference whilst vague numbers such as "a" and "the" are not. They could be connected to numbers in certain instances, but like I said, I already did that and they're wildly different, whereas counting only specific numeric words adds up very well. 3: Day 2's total = 42. 42 - 2 = 40 Day 4's total = 44. 44 - 4 = 40 It's a very logical approach to the problem with the slight inconsistency, and it isn't even near a stretch because it uses the specific day number for each individual day. Why only some of them and not all? If I did that, it would be more like your "twist things to see what you want" story. Why do you keep criticizing without trying to point out where exactly I'm wrong and provide your own analysis? Honestly, you're either very stubborn or protecting MoC. I don't truly know which to feel is more likely. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 22:07 MTF wrote: Iii don't get how it isn't straightforward or is a coincidence. o_O Help me out here: - Only & all of the numeric words in those days that Cottonmouth was present. - A close sum total for both days, with a minimal difference between them. - They both meet at a single total when the days number they are on is subtracted from them. What exactly is missing to convince you and why would the next time convince you if two separate occurrences don't? Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 22:17 MTF wrote: Shit, you're right! I don't think the sarcasm is right, though. STR is a really vague name, and the numbers add up on both the days Cottonmouth was active. Thank you for criticizing me and looking into it. I have to point out that you can say it's wrong because I missed that two; which led to a different, stronger suspect! XD Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 22:37 MTF wrote:Haha, my God I feel like a dumbass for missing that number. XD But, despite it all, I'm gonna put my top and general suspects list in here from my blog in case day comes soon. Maybe somebody can find more critical errors that I missed and refocus our attentions. + Show Spoiler + LostYourSkills as Eddie: + Show Spoiler + His quote refers to luck being skill that becomes habit. On the second day, he first gets a lucky kick off on Yogurt, then shortly thereafter, begins kicking him over and over again. He was also defended by BlindAlbino, who is pretty much confirmed Mafia. str as Cottonmouth: + Show Spoiler + Cottonmouth: Cottonmouth is surrounded by numbers. By counting up the number references in the Day posts he shows up in, we arrive at this: Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 29 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 44 Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 #44 on the participant list is str. It makes sense for him to be linked by numbers as well, as he has a very ambiguous name. Credit to Plexa for pointing out the days corresponding with the numbers. - Past analysis. [-i-]Credit to qrs for pointing out the missing two in Day 2. MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer: + Show Spoiler + There are several references to the time being midnight in the Day posts. Snake Charmer has thus far only been known to use swords, and MidnightGladius has a sword in his name and profile. He is on the Mandalor list. Finally, BlindAlbino, now pretty much a confirmed Mafia, has protected him in the past. 0cz3c as Copperhead: + Show Spoiler + Purely based off his speech and 0cz3c's profile quote. Both allude to two choices, one being a mystery, and in Copperhead's speech the object in his right pocket bulged to the point of it seeming impossible to hold whatever was inside. This coincides with the quote. Clazziquai as California Mountain Snake: + Show Spoiler + Firstly, Clazziquai is a Korean band. This fits in with the singing; to tie the hat/respectful manner in is Oddball. Oddball was Korean born in the Bond movies. He never talked, wore a suit, and threw a metal rimmed bowler hat that famously decapitated a statue in one of the movies. Note: If he turns up Mafia later, look hard at Randombum. Crazie-Penguin as King Black Snake: + Show Spoiler + Definite clues: He is very short and doesn't appear to be human/appears to be deformed as he is "a strange man". I believe this is a strong allusion to the person not being human, as Chuiu can't just come right out and say such. Crazie-Penguin: Penguins are short and would most definitely be strange looking if assumed a man. Also note this: King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground Slapped is a rather specific phrase. A penguin cannot punch, but they could slap. And this: Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake Maddened is, again, a specific phrase. Madness is a term for insanity, or craziness. BlindAlbino as Black Mamba: + Show Spoiler + Take a look.. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. The point of all of these clues is one of two things: Black Mamba is physically helpless and CANNOT SEE. This is why he feels his way up to kick Yogurt, why Eddie has to yell at him to warm him about the switch, why Black Mamba is alarmed by the gunshot and proceeds to miss his attempts to stomp the man, why Eddie went back to help him in the first place, and why he is so easily hit; he can't dodge because he can't see. BLACK MAMBA IS BLINDALBINO how the fuck did I miss this before? + Show Spoiler + ieatkids5 as Mr. White: + Show Spoiler + Let me clarify at the start that I am nowhere near 100% sure on this guy. The only reason I suspect him is because of his quote dealing with procrastination, being that laziness pays off now rather than working towards a later goal. Easy arguments against this are that there are no obvious connections with smashing in heads and that he was one of the people BlindAlbino was pushing to be lynched. Because of these two things I do not yet feel strongly that he is Mr. White. He is, however, the closest match I have at the moment, with his quote covering both laziness and waiting 'til the last second to get things done. Lysithea as Mr. Orange: + Show Spoiler + Lysithea is a moon, and everyone knows that if you scream (or call for help) in space, nobody can hear you. Furthermore, there was a red moon reference in one of the day posts that may reference him. Lastly, Blind Albino, pretty much confirmed Mafia at this point, defended him. Unsoundlogic as Mr. Orange: + Show Spoiler + Unsoundlogic: Reasoning is that unsound is clearly a lack of sound, which seems to be Mr. Orange's theme. Nemy as Mr. Brown: + Show Spoiler + Mr. Brown constantly comes face to face with people, staring back at them, and doesn't seem to do anything else. Nemy has a mirror in his profile. JimTudor as Mr. Blonde: + Show Spoiler + Jim Tudor is a hockey players name. Mr. Blonde tends to come right up on his opponents and often knocks them down, and is very physical. He is also very fast, which may be linked to a hockey players speed on ice, knocking their opponents over from seemingly out of nowhere. Bugzitooni: + Show Spoiler + The only reason I'm including him is because BlindAlbino defended him in the very same post he defended Queasy, who was Mafia, and MidnightGladius, who I'm pretty sure is Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 22:48 MTF wrote: See above. XD I agree that 44 could add up to something other than a suspect on the list, but I strongly feel like it does just that, especially now that the suspect has such a vague name/small quote. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 00:14 MTF wrote:'Since I lost some confidence in my surety that the number = the place on the list through my recent acting like an ass, I'm looking more indepth into the profiles to see if I can turn up 44 anywhere. I'm going to be counting numbers occuring in names, photos, date joined, birthday, quote, and profile; all the post count related stuff changes, so cannot be used. I will provide a link to each persons profile for easy access. Fen: 1, 9, 2, 6, 1, 1, 1, 9, 8, 6 = 44 The one I view as the most likely, considering that Chuiu already used the marsh clue, the strongest word association for Fen, in the last game. HotZhot: 8, 2, 8, 4 = 22. HotZhot is a double-sided name, so it could be interpreted that the number goes twice. 22 x 2 = 44. It's a stretch. Wizard: 5, 2, 7, 9, 1, 9, 9, 2 = 44 nemY: 2, 3, 2, 6, 1, 5, 1, 9, 8, 7 = 44 DTDominion: 2, 7, 2, 5, 2, 1, 9, 8, 8 = 44 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As you can see, depressingly many added up to 44. Feel free to search through other people, guys, but my strongest suspect is still str, because at least his connection is not overlapping with other people. Alright, this will be my last post for a little while. If I'm not dead when I come back, I'll start looking through my top suspects posting histories (and note any edits that occurred today in case this serves as a warning to!) to see if I can find suspicious behavior. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 06:57 MTF wrote:I'm not done evaluating my suspects, but I feel I should go ahead and post what I do have because of what I found of str. Those also on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk. LostYourSkills: + Show Spoiler + Made only one post in the whole thread after Day 1 post, never voted other than Mayoral. Claims to have been on holiday. str: I'm about 90% sure that str is innocent, now. I would be much less so if BlindAlbino had only voted for str, but he voted and openly accused over and over again. I still believe 44 is the key to finding Cottonmouth, but I no longer believe it is str. This makes Fen my new strongest, though somewhat tenuous still, suspect for Cottonmouth. + Show Spoiler + - PAIN IN THE ASS TO SEARCH FOR - Ok, stopping now, because I've seen BlindAlbino, sure Mafia, try to get str lynched twice now. Notes About Other People: Mostly lists of people who accused those I am suspecting. I will omit those who are already confirmed innocent/dead. Though I just wanna point out this post by Chezinu: + Show Spoiler + I say you make these people vote for the same person: MidnightGladius Ninja4ever Energies Caller LoStYouRSkills BlindAlbino Meta I'm curious how many are mafia He was doing a good job, in my opinion. People Who Accuse LostYourSkills: + Show Spoiler + SonuvBob Plexa Naib Eti307 Lysinthea RtS)Night(Mare Shallow[Bay] Infundibulum Scorch HeRoS)Pink Camlito Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:21 MTF wrote: Second post on page 31. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 04:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: POSSIBLE COLOUR CLUES OUTLINED Blue http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Bockit http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Last Romantic (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Plexa (his name is in Blue) Red http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemY Brown http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bumatlarge http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AmorVincitOmnia (his -signature : brown skin woman you a queen) Pink http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Unforgiven_ve http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeRoS)Pink (it's in his name! profile has an abundance of Blue though) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MoRe_mInErAls ADDITIONAL CLUES There are so many fucking snake references...I'm looking at you, wurm. Two of the three snakes mentioned are found in Australia, the other is found in Mexico and the US. Who are some Aussie players? -SoMuchBetter is from Australia -He has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature. -Guy in his profile has a massive brown hat -Fen -Energies -Camlito -Lostyourskills -Bockit -Siefu -Scorch -Rowdierbob (one of the mafia asks forgiveness from Chuiu "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand". In his signature, RB is forgiving Plexa for being a Kiwi) -Ghar -Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" EDIT : 4:57 TL time ; added Australians to the list. EDIT : 5:04 ; Two people who could be pointed to by colour clues, and wtf kind of logic is that? MidnightGladius's signature. "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change.- Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General" MY THOUGHTS AS OF NOW I suspect: - RtS)Night[Mare - from Mexico, (sidewinder), guy with long, BROWN dreadlocks in his profile. - Ghar - from Australia, above "surrounded" quote by Aznvaliance. - So Much Better - from Australia,has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature,guy in his profile - I have a gut feeling about Plexa and fusionsdf. EDIT Mar22/13:23 ADDED MoRe_mInErAls to Pink list. Not the same reasoning, but I'm just noting anyone who, in the past, put some heat on the suspects I have down. If those suspects come up Mafia, you guys will have some compilation as to what people accused them before they were up on the chopping block, and that is strong evidence that the person is probably aligned with the town. Posted in night7/main_page.231 Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:31 MTF wrote:Ok, 'since time is short I'll post the other two suspects I have finished reviewing. I probably won't be able to get them all, but I'll try updating one by one before day comes. Once again, people on the Mandalor list marked by an asterisk. MidnightGladius*: + Show Spoiler + - Claims to have been on vacation between the 11th-15th. - Gives some decent analysis/summary of clues on this page. - Defended d.arkive with a list (later proved fake) - Presented the fake list again later to add innocents to another list. - Addressed BlindAlbino directly, agreed with him tenuously on Energies and asked for further discussion on suresh0t. People Who Accuse MidnightGladius*: + Show Spoiler + - Shallow[Bay] - Eti307 - Lysithea - BWdero - Hollander - Plexa - Nemy 0cz3c*: + Show Spoiler + - Defended Caller, known innocent, then turned against him (along with many other people, including a now dead medic) - Defended Ace. - Defended Ace against BlindAlbino. - Suggested investigating both Bumatlarge and Randombum on what turned out to be Queasy's clues. - Complied and voted on Ghar in day 3, had no second vote. - Accused Ninja4Ever. - Defended Shallow three times. last few pages, relevant to note because of recent events - Responded to my post about his quote by expanding the knowledge of it; has yet to respond about the new clue. - Supports MidnightGladius being lynched and challenges suresh0t to give reasoning rather than just say things. - Kinda defends me by questioning a possible clue against me. Well, look at that. One of my top suspects has a more positive posting history than the majority of townies. This indicates one of two things to me: he's a good, helpful townie or he's a smart mafia. Given the clue we have seemingly connecting him strongly to Copperhead, I'm going to lean towards smart mafia. However, I will concede that I am quite a bit less certain than before. People Who Accused 0cz3c*: + Show Spoiler + Shallow[Bay] Posted in night7/main_page.231 Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 09:51 MTF wrote: Well, to give you credit, you made some helpful posts in the beginning and if the fake list being presented multiple times was done in well-meaning manner (which it could have been), then you could have been trying to expand the innocent list. You also made a post analyzing clues which was somewhat sizable, which is more than a lot of other people have done. It's just that if it's down to you and me, I already know it's not me, and you have so much evidence against you that I'd still be thoroughly more convinced about you than 0cz3c. We'll see how it all turns out soon enough. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:15 MTF wrote:Clazziquai*: + Show Spoiler + - Talks about wanting to really help the town early on, after claiming to be a mere townie. - Questioned Ace's surety on Mandalor. - Claims to have been gone between March 25th-27th - Encouraged Ace to keep participating when everyone thought he left. - Haha, called BlindAlbino the village idiot. Note that BlindAlbino said that he was surprised that he wasn't caught earlier; perhaps mafia distanced themselves a little from him after they saw the obviousness of his clues, though there's nothing very solidly incriminating in his post record to link him to mafia. People Who Accuse Clazziquai*: + Show Spoiler + - Eti307 - Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:38 MTF wrote:crazie-penguin{ + Show Spoiler + - Responds to Clazziquai's calling BlindAlbino the village idiot, saying he's sure he (Blind) was just being sarcastic. All other results are of minor assistance or just neutral (well, seeming town-sympathetic, but y'know) commentary on the day posts. People Who Accuse crazie-penguin: + Show Spoiler + - Just me, though Plexa has since added a vote of support for my analysis of him. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ok, that's it for me. Already looked through BlindAlbino thanks to Plexa's much easier history. XD I will update my blog with all the new information I've made 'since and then await day. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:52 MTF wrote: No, that's silly. Queasy was most definitely connected to Sidewinder. Mr. Blue must not have been Mandalor, and I would like to reiterate the "right mayor" clue. As for Gladius turning up green, first off: I'm sorry. You really seemed to have clues stacked up against you, but you did indeed turn up green. To the town: I'm not going to defend myself the best way I can right now, I will only point out my posts and that BlindAlbino is indeed dead. Wait to hear from Ace and Plexa before you get it into your heads to steamroll me, please. As for now, I'll be working on clues again. O, and I'm surprised as all hell that I'm alive tonight. | ||
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54. MTF Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:11 MTF wrote:Various notes on Mafia and some conclusions from clues. Bolded bits are clues/conclusions I feel strongly about. Misc/seemingly unattached words that hinted: + Show Spoiler + - The red moon stared back in the face like a terrifying omen lights out - lamp moved to center of room - smiley in place of shotgun - when four men intercepted them - fight an army if one would present itself - fortunately/unfortunately shows up multiple times - surrounded on all sides - "the fourth man" has been mentioned specifically twice - They intruded into the office buildings he was at and quickly found him doing repetitive boring paperwork in his drab cubicle. Mr. Blue: + Show Spoiler + I'm interpreting this guy for the first time, 'since we thought it was Mandalor before; apparently this was not the case. - Got the last word in, which means one of two things to me: a reference to finality or being of a position greater than those around him. The former seems more likely, though with the next clue... - He mentions the right mayor being elected; this is the only thing he does through day 1-5. This seems to me to be a strong indicator that this was a very powerful clue, which I believe points at one of the people who ran for mayor. - A possible music reference exists in "tugged on the chord" as chord is a musical reference whereas cord would be the correct spelling. Possibly just a spelling error. - "broke the chain of the saw" and "shredded down the side" might be important. Eddie: + Show Spoiler + - Pointed the gun on day one, but doesn't specify he shot it; he's only used the gun during panic. - Seems to frequently help his fellow Mafia, i.e. helping Black Mamba and holding down Empyrean for D.arkive. - Doesn't seem to be afraid of violence. - Got the lucky kick in on day 2 and then proceeded to kick Yogurt repeatedly in the gut. This fits LostYourSkills quote in that he started off lucky and then became skilled/habitual with his kicks. - He has a theme of shooting and then retreating. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. Joe: + Show Spoiler + - Strongly supports leader/helps his friends. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. - Seems to be polite/well spoken. - Acts when people try to leave. and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead New Suspect: - Joe could be Unforgiven. The photo is of a smiling bunny giving two thumbs up. His name was alluded to last Mafia game, so the cheery/helpful nature of the photo may be his clue this time. However, I see no connection with the leaving clue. Mr. Red: + Show Spoiler + - The big one that bugs the shit out of me, he keeps losing his balance and falling over. - Has never spoken. - Threw something on the ground that made Lenwe slip, possibly the same substance in the next clue. - Though not named specifically, at the beginning of Day 3 he was outside of Dinmsab's house throwing "matter" at the window and beckoning him out. Mr. Red is confirmed this person by the following: Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Mr. Red was the fourth person introduced into the story in the line immediately after he saw the fourth man. Enigma, California Mountain Snake, and Mr. Orange were in the house before him. Mr. Blonde: + Show Spoiler + - Is prone to attacking through bodily means. - Is very fast; I thought he was invisible, but looking at the "jetted" comment on Day 5, I think he is just very fast. My prime suspect for Mr. Blonde is Jimtudor. Jim Tudor is the name of a hockey player. Hockey players tend to be quite physical and reach great speeds on the ice. May have been Evilmonkey. King Brown Snake: + Show Spoiler + - Appears inhuman or deformed. - HE IS A MIDGET! Or at least very short. Look: He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. Mr. Red and Eddie headed them off and King Brown Snake and The Wolf moved in behind Caller. King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. My prime suspect is Crazie-Penguin. Penguins are short, cannot punch (and therefore may use slapping as an attack), and the word maddened refers to madness or insanity. The Wolf: + Show Spoiler + - Seems to be patient/apologetic. - Accurate. He "made his mark" on Chuiu on Day 1 and threw a nail down the hallway square into the back of New104's head. - Doesn't ever seem to be directly involved in trying to kill to start with; he always interrupts or stumbles along the action, with the exception of Chuiu. Enigma: + Show Spoiler + - Seems prideful and arrogant. - He has notable physical features. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground -Empyrean notes specifically that he doesn't have the means to detain Enigma. These seem to signify a clue pointing towards something inhuman - Possible theme of tackling/going to the ground. said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground Mr. Pink: + Show Spoiler + - Calm and careful. Calculated. - Is a good fighter, - Is quiet/soft spoken. - Suggested the beating of Fishball rather than shoot. - Seems to be connected to things being parted into two. - Is perhaps a wild animal or some other creature/a profession that specializes in hunting. Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street Mr. Brown: + Show Spoiler + - Repeatedly mentions staring at victims. - Mr. Brown is situationally unintelligable: Unintelligible: he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. Intellible: Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown He talks quite clearly here, so perhaps it's just his yelling that is indecipherable. Also, note the underlined portions in the quotes; both times he is not understood, direction is mentioned. - Yard decorations are clearly mentioned, as is a sharp stone. - This is the second time Brown has helped Pink beat someone to death. - Also note that he has never shown up alone (twice with Mr. Pink and once with Mr. Blonde) and is often close by them. Snake Charmer: + Show Spoiler + - Uses swords. Cottonmouth: + Show Spoiler + - Has a very strong numbers theme, though they don't add up to the same sum when you just take into account his weapons; but what about the entire day posts? I'll be looking into this after posting. Potentially solved - Key number seems to be 44. + Show Spoiler + Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 44 Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 Credit to Plexa for pointing out the days corresponding with the numbers. Credit to qrs for finding a missing two in Day 2. Mr. White: + Show Spoiler + - He has never been in a prolonged fight - He always just comes in and makes the finishing blow. - Probably relating to the clue above, he is habitually late and/or lazy. - Speaking of the finishing blow, both have been crushing of heads. California Mountain Snake: + Show Spoiler + - Respectful, has a hat. - Perhaps someone with a musical tie as well, as per the "singing". - Seems to have a theme of dismembering/taking things apart, as he removed Dinmsab's head and went much further in removing all of aZnvaLiaNce's limbs. - A possible theme of helplessness. Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Mr. Orange: + Show Spoiler + - Doesn't like/interrupts sound. - Has never spoken. Copperhead: + Show Spoiler + - Seems to enjoy giving choices. There is someone with a quote saying "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- even a boat!" Copperhead gave a choice between left or right, and whatever was in his right pocket bulged too large for his pocket. This is 0cz3c's quote.. Mr. Black: + Show Spoiler + - Strong, obviously. - Seems to create a sticky substance. - Note that as Mr. Black was still climbing through the window JeeJee attacked Copperhead who was already in the room without waiting, yet Mr. Black is the one who grabbed the bat. Perhaps this signifies an extra-long reach or something similar. - Possible connection to love and/or risk? "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:32 MTF wrote: Fusion has them in his blog post. I'm editing my post above now to contain all the old information I had as well. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 13:04 MTF wrote: Yup. Specific clues I'm going to be looking at tonight/tomorrow: - Eddie's theme of shooting his gun and retreating. - Mr. Blue's chainsaw and final/last reference. - Supportive people in general aimed at Joe, as well as a focus on his theme of attacking as people try to leave. - Enigma being ugly/having notable physical features and the theme of going to/staying on the ground. - Mr. Brown's "intelligible/unintelligible" mystery. - Mr. White being lazy and/or late. As for who I believe we should take out right now, Crazie-Penguin is my strongest suspect. I feel we've got him pretty well tied down to King Mountain Snake and town can't afford to shoot wildly with another paramedic, jack, and vigilante dead. (Second place of those I feel strongest about would be Clazziqaui as California Brown Snake but I don't feel nearly as convinced of him as I am of Crazie-Penguin.) Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 16:44 MTF wrote:Attempting to attach specific clues to specific people. Bolded names are those I feel strongly about, and italics are those I feel weak about: - Eddie's theme of shooting his gun and retreating. jtan: + Show Spoiler + His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat. - Mr. Blue's chainsaw and final/last reference. Scorch: + Show Spoiler + His profile quote is from a Rage Against the Machine song called Know Your Enemy, on an album that had more traditionally metal guitar music than later albums. Now, examine Mr. Blue's latest clues: Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Yes, it's a stretch. But, it's the only thing I could find even close to relating. - Supportive people in general aimed at Joe, as well as a focus on his theme of attacking as people try to leave. Unforgiven_ve: + Show Spoiler + His profile picture is of a happy looking bunny giving the thumbs up. Not only did Joe directly give a thumbs up, he has been helpful/supportive of his fellow Mafia from day one. - Mr. Brown's "intelligible/unintelligible" mystery. infinity21: + Show Spoiler + His profile quote reads, "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit". This could allude to Mr. Brown's off/on ability to be understood. fgsvsd: + Show Spoiler + His name is gibberish whilst his quote speaks just fine. - Mr. White being lazy and/or late. ieatkids5: + Show Spoiler + His quote reads, "Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Both scenes in which Mr. White is active, he shows up last in. This is more particularly noted in Day 2 than in Day 4. As well as being the last to show up, he never, not once, has engaged in a fight except to make the finishing blow. I believe this is a strong connection. Random Things Noted While Looking: - NatsuTerran translates into SummerTerran. - qrs has this quote: "It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious." Earlier I noted that there was a very detailed description of a very drab room. I will look into other day posts that contain the same Mafia that showed up in Day 6 to see if I can find any others that are similar. Finally, Finding Out Mafia Suspects: First, let us tally up all the dead Mafia. Known Mafia: Sidewinder was Queasy. Black Mamba was BlindAlbino. Taipan Snake was d.arkive. Others That Died: Evilmonkey - Night 5 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mandalor died on Night 2, meaning that whoever his character is cannot have shown up in Days 3-6, but must have have been in either or both of Days 1-2. Likewise, Evilmonkey died on Night 5, meaning his character cannot be in the Day 6 post and beyond. Mafia Who Have Not Shown Up 'Since Day 1-2: Snake Charmer We thus find that Mandalor was definitely Snake Charmer. And for Evilmonkey, Mafia Who Didn't Show Up On Day 6: Snake Charmer King Brown Snake (I strongly believe this is Crazie-Penguin) Mr. Blonde Mr. Red Mr. White Cottonmouth The Wolf Copperhead Mr. Orange Any of these can be Evilmonkey. Personally, I feel that he was Mr. Blonde. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:59 MTF wrote: O, you're indeed right. I assumed that the 20 mafia were separate from the special roles. This means that Mandalor was 100% Sword Charmer. Too bad we didn't figure that out before offing MidnightGladius. : x and sure, I'll italicize you. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 18:25 MTF wrote:Alright, guys, a quick note: Even though I don't think there are Mafia hiding without names anymore, I am completely certain that fusion was right in that clues are hidden in the day posts without being attached directly to anyone. My main piece of evidence is here: I always assumed this referred to The Wolf, as he is the next new person introduced. However, I am no longer convinced this is the case, as I've stated before that I feel Mr. White is lazy/late - hence a Mafia in the break room. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 18:56 MTF wrote:Ok, here's a quick list of similar phrases throughout the days with at least three references. Please note that these were not all on one day, in any of their cases. Also, I am well aware that none of these directly proves anything and that some could be unintentional red herrings through storytelling. However, I still do believe there are little clues lying around in Day post words. + Show Spoiler [Directions and Placements] + (I don't think I got all these; kinda rushed because of sleepiness.) turn of events took their turns dealing moved onto the table in the center of the room turned to the right dodged to the left standing right + Show Spoiler + punch square in the jaw landed square in the back of New104's head landed a punch square in Showtime!'s right eye + Show Spoiler + near suicidal no strength left to live. knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself almost already felt himself dying as he ran vain attempt to save + Show Spoiler + alerted by this blast when they heard the sound resonate up stairs to investigate the sound tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about + Show Spoiler + Eddie half-panicked He panicked as he he panicked and + Show Spoiler + a neighbors phone house next to them. resonate from the house next door. Next door on his neighbors lawn + Show Spoiler + Irritated he decided getting really impatient was getting frustrated + Show Spoiler + he took his chances with Unfortunately Mynocks fortunately they Unfortunately Dinmsab had Coincidentally Fishball + Show Spoiler + seemed to drag on forever slowly taking their toll on him. didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly. He crept down slowly he walked slowly walked up slowly a slow pace + Show Spoiler + just about surrendered grouped up in the room when four men intercepted them. were ready to fight an army charged at Empyrean they were still surrounded Mr. Red retreated jetted towards him (possibly) + Show Spoiler + head out to investigate went up the stairs to investigate up to investigate over to them to investigate inspecting his window ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And with that, I am going to sleep. G'night, town and nightmares to you, Mafia. At least this time I know I won't wake up dead. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 03:07 MTF wrote: Try doing some yourself! Also, a general note: the only time criticism is helping in any way is when it is specific enough to reveal faults, such as qrs finding the missing two from Day 2 post. Your comments will be taken much more seriously if they have actual content to them instead of just bashing the people working hardest to figure things out. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:30 MTF wrote: Yeah, that's what happened. O, and I forgot to do this: Who We Match: MTF - Mr. Black, from the smashed window reference, "drove through", the reference to love today, and general kickassery. Smurfingchobo - King Black Snake, from the shortness alone. I honestly feel 100% sure that this is Crazie-Penguin's character. unsoundlogic - Mr. Orange, as he continually destroys/silences sources of sound. L - Enigma, as L from Death Note is described as being the worlds greatest detective (Enigma writing down false analysis for the town), unattractive, and mysterious. So, objectively there's a suspect for every one of us four on that list...which really sucks. Out of them, I feel most strongly inclined towards L for suspicious circumstances and strength of ties to Enigma. Also note that out of us four, both unsound and L are on the Mandalor list. If L is indeed Mafia, then that clears the other three of us on the TranceStorm list, and clears unsound (and takes down one Mafia) from the Mandalor list. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:19 MTF wrote: It wouldn't. Mafia don't send in individual kills, they just send in a list to Chuiu with how many hits are on who. So, Mafia kill strength doesn't go down any from inactivity. Posted in night7/main_page.236 Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:04 MTF wrote:Random Note About Cottonmouth: - Possible theme of meeting people. I might let it slide if it were just met, but to be followed soon after by the abnormally applied embraced leads me to believe Cottonmouth, or another Mafia, may have this theme. Random Note About Joe: - I missed one of his references to acting just when someone is about to leave. - And this reference may be aimed at Joe as well, though it is unclear. This makes the amount of times Joe has specifically stopped a person trying to leave up to two, and acting when someone tries to leave up to three, and adding one to both if the latter reference does indeed refer to Joe. Renewing Old Suspect for Mr. Brown & Introducing New Suspect: I am reintroducing nemY as a suspect for Mr. Brown for the following: - Theme of staring/meeting gaze. - Possible theme of pairs; he has always been paired up with just one person and was present when Mynock's head was shot (presented as being in two later) and he broke a phone into two. Major Flaw: The indecipherable clue is not met so far as I can tell. I am introducing omfghi2u2 as a suspect for Mr. Brown for the following: - Theme of staring/meeting gaze. - "omfg" before hi may be the link to him being indecipherable when he calls out. - Has introduced himself once, and in accordance with my belief now that clues may be scattered around, it is noteworthy that Enigma also introduced himself/California Mountain Snake. Nothing solid at the moment. The only two people I feel pretty strongly about taking out right now are L and Crazie-Penguin. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:23 MTF wrote:Hahaha. "strange" = abnormal for a normal person As for the shortness: Chuiu doesn't come right out and say it, but he never specifically said BlindAlbino was blind either. That's kind of the point with clues; you have to interpret them. King Brown Snake was the one doing the stepping up, so I don't even see how you reached that conclusion. And again, this line: Confirms that DapperDan came face to face halfway through getting up from the ground. It can, but it fits very well in terms of insanity alongside the slapping and blatant shortness of the character to match you. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:54 MTF wrote: I like how that all adds up. I'm still voting L, but this looks really nice for the future. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:50 MTF wrote: Agreed. Instead of lynching L tonight, let's see if he survives the night. Meanwhile focus energies on one of the strongest suspects we have, crazie-penguin. The logic behind this is that we don't waste our single lynch today on someone who either turns up dead anyway tonight or is pretty much (not that I'm not already thoroughly convinced) confirmed mafia if he doesn't tomorrow, while at the same time getting to find out if one of our strongest suspects who we can't confirm tomorrow is mafia or not. So, I'm switching my vote to Crazie-Penguin, and then decide on L after the next day comes. It's the best course of action we've got. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:55 MTF wrote:I honestly don't feel like the grabbed argument stands up against all the evidence already against Penguin. It's good that you're applying helpful critique, but at this point I'm pretty much 100% here. And if anyone tries to point out MidnightGladius here, this isn't quite like that; MidnightGladius got pegged as Mafia for being the only guy with a heavy sword reference to a character who only showed up once and used a sword, as well as it being supposedly down to me and him for finding Mafia in a list. King Mountain Snake has shown up three different days and the clues I've linked are more specific than just a sword. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 13:20 MTF wrote: Let me be clear here by saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning my or Plexa's or anybodies analysis, so long as you provide good reasoning against whatever has come up. Which the grabbing aspect was, I just don't think it stands up against all that is for him being a match. In fact, I think it's a damned good thing to do, alongside doing your own analysis, especially when it prevents an innocents kill or provides new information. Qrs proved me wrong a little while back showing that I missed a number in one of the Day posts by doing just that, and though I responded hostilely at first (sorry qrs, scorch) it was a very good thing he did; it brings us to new clues, new suspects, and takes heat off someone who I thought matched the clues beforehand. So, by all means, fire away if you have arguments, guys. Just make sure to provide reasoning alongside "I think you're wrong". Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 20:18 MTF wrote: Nobody but L is defending L. Me, Plexa, Camlito, and Scorch all are in favor of keeping L alive for just this cycle (not defending him). Even with the chance of Mafia keeping him alive intentionally if he's blue, we still gain from keeping him alive for just this round, because there is still a very, very slight chance of his innocence and we get another strong suspect in the meantime. Let me put it this way: Benefits from Keeping L Alive: - Allows us to target another strong suspect who isn't claiming blue and wouldn't have any reason to be a mafia target during night phase. Thus, if L is blue and mafia do target him, we save our single, valuable lynch for today. - We can put L on one last target as a last chance to prove his innocence; if they come up saved, then we can reconsider his guilt, even if L isn't killed. If who he was protecting died and/or he doesn't get killed, we declare double lynch and take him + another strong suspect. Let's not announce who he protects either, so that nobody can say Mafia knew beforehand who he was protecting. Benefits from Lynching L Today: - We figure out one cycle sooner if L really is blue or not. The benefits of keeping him alive tonight outweigh the benefit of lynching him today. The saboteur bit doesn't mean anything either for lynching him sooner; he can't roleblock the same person twice in a row, so Ace can still declare double lynch next Day phase, and most other important people with roles are dead. (not to mention he'd have to know/guess correctly that someone has a role to roleblock them) Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:14 MTF wrote: Well.....at the very least one of the nightmarishly headache-bringing characters is gone. Also, I agree with DamageControL as Mr. Black (feel about as strongly about that as I do about Mr. White - ieatkids5 connection) and if L comes up innocent, I'll consider spoinka a strong replacement for Enigma. 1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5. 2. 3. 4. 5. - As well as many other specific physical references to his creation here. He's giving the thumbs up - notice the only other finger to show up on either hand looks to be what would be the index finger on both hands, both curved inward like he's making sideways fists. Because of that, I suspect him of being Joe for the recent thumbs up reference and generally supportive nature of the character. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:43 MTF wrote:Plexa brought my attention to an earlier link I'd drawn between jtan and Eddie, and upon further inspection, all of this crops up: jtan as Eddie: [-spoiler=Reasoning-] - His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat, which Eddie has references to/is nearby one other reference to. - Some possible M&M references through needing help/back-up/having friends. - A stretch that entertains me: Maybe a reference to the Marine's famous saying, "You wanna piece of me, boy?" Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:49 MTF wrote: In the past I've stated a few times suspicions against randombum because of "the right mayor" being mentioned (started his campaign way before Day 1 came), and that several known Mafia switched their votes to him at the last moment. I'm still suspicious and this just adds to that, but we definitely need more clues before we go after him. Edit: And yes, Chuiu does an amazing job. <3 Edit 2: mebbe, sorta need more clues to go after him. I dunno, the fact that Chuiu left him out from Day 1 - Day 6 still tells me that the "right mayor" clue was pretty major, enough for Chuiu to maybe be scared of making any more direct clues aimed at Blue for awhile. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 01:04 MTF wrote: I agree that we shouldn't take haste; it'll definitely take more looking into before he jumps ahead of other top suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 01:15 MTF wrote:Just a quick note as I search through the day posts looking for more randombum connections: + Show Spoiler + declares martial law. just about surrendered grouped up in the room when four men intercepted them. were ready to fight an army charged at Empyrean opposite direction to the armory. they were still surrounded Mr. Red retreated jetted towards him (possibly) I'm still agreeing with fusion here that clues don't necessarily need to be directly tied to Mafia acts. There are definitely a lot of military references. I have two suspects for this particular bunch of words, new one being jtan for military references applying to SC, and old one being GeneralStan for his name relating to the military, obviously. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:05 MTF wrote: Agreed on both counts. Also, the vote count is pretty close between L and Crazie right now; it's going to be one or the other, and I think we're likely to hit mafia either way, but I'm still hoping to hold out on lynching L this very night, so hopefully we get some last minute Crazie votes. And I'd like to publically address Bugzitooni and ask him why he has never voted anyone other than nemY. You've voted every day but day 2, when we took out Mandalor and day 5 when Evilmonkey was taken down; every other day you've voted nemY on page 1 or 2. This is, at the least, non-productive behavior when you are obviously following enough to know when the voting starts. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:06 MTF wrote:Alright, so once again, old references brought to the forefront. I'll note that Heros pointed this out right after I put up the definition of his name, and Plexa + associate PM'ed me about his name connecting again. I wasn't quite sold on it earlier, but as we find that mafia connections are usually simpler than not, I'm leaning towards mafia. Ziel as The Wolf: First, the translation: The Wolf, as I'm sure everyone knows by now, is incredibly accurate and has several "target" references. The italic in the last just makes sure to note that it was made clear his attack was, again, something most probably thrown. Now, qrs made a good argument for suresh0t being The Wolf instead, but at this point in the game, I feel the most natural connections are the strongest ones. So, I feel, along with Plexa and his associate, that Ziel is the strongest candidate we have for Wolf. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:44 MTF wrote:So, this is just going to be a list for reference of who I feel are our strongest suspects (people I would advocate lynching at this point) and then a list of definite repeating themes for other characters we have no big suspects for. I'll omit Crazie-Penguin, as I'm pretty sure we're already aligned against him in votes now and he'll be taken care of come night. Strongest Suspects: Ziel as The Wolf: + Show Spoiler + First, the translation: Ziel German or Dutch. German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target. Dutch translation is soul. The Wolf, as I'm sure everyone knows by now, is incredibly accurate and has several "target" references. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. The italic in the last just makes sure to note that it was made clear his attack was, again, something most probably thrown. Now, qrs made a good argument for suresh0t being The Wolf instead, but at this point in the game, I feel the most natural connections are the strongest ones. So, I feel, along with Plexa and his associate, that Ziel is the strongest candidate we have for Wolf. OR suresh0t as The Wolf: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 11:51 qrs wrote:I'll probably vote suresh0t because of the clues that seem to point at him. (summary: + Show Spoiler + 1)sure shot: 1-hit kill with nail thrown down hall; twice says that Caller tried to dodge but couldn't. 2) signature: apology for taking on God (authority) but someone has to do it, corresponds with the Wolf's apology to Chuiu for killing him (Chuiu was an authority figure in the Mafia). 3) Profile pic: hammer--goes with nails. To add to the possible evidence against suresh0t, there's a reference to the Wolf carrying debris out of a building (after d.arkive's suicide blast). Why would anyone do that? It sounds a bit like a construction worker (the hammer again). Granted, this particular connection is a bit weak, but does anyone have a better explanation for "carrying a pile of debris"? ulszz as Mr. Blue: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 11:36 Plexa wrote: My associate is on a rolllllll + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote well done mr associate Also: 1 mafia out of: ulszz araav rts)night[mare infundibilum ahrara qrs nemy which fufills that list ALSO if that holds, 10 of the following are mafia clazziquai ZBiR BWdero GeneralStan Scorch suresh0t Lysithea Ninja4ever. Naib SoleSteeler L Jimtudor zeks Unforgiven_ve SoMuchBetter ieatkids5 L as Enigma: + Show Spoiler + 1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5. 2. created L as a "force of justice" why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". 3. L Lawliet (エル・ローライト, Eru Rōraito?), commonly referred to by his alias "L" (エル, Eru?), is a fictional character in the manga and anime series Death Note. He is considered the world's greatest detective, noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. 4. Obata believes that the design evokes "a feeling of mystery" and that the reader cannot determine L's true thoughts. 5. Obata asked Ohba if L could be "unattractive." - As well as many other specific physical references to his creation [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_%28Death_Note%29]here. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground OR IF L COMES UP INNOCENT Spoinka as Enigma: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote: Okay, it just keeps on coming... Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot. Enigma ran his hand through his hair... Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he... Empyrean noted the features of the man.. Hello spoinka Ninja4ever. as Mr. Blonde: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 00:22 Plexa wrote: Okay, my associate stumbled upon the following find for mr blonde + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. There are soo many references to Mr Blonde being agile and appearing from no where, yet at the same time a rather strong figure... See the highlighted passages for evidential proof Obviously, there is only one thing that is both nimble and powerful and that is a Ninja, thus i present to you Ninja4eva. as Mr Blonde jtan as Eddie: + Show Spoiler + - His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat, which Eddie has references to/is nearby one other reference to. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. - Some possible M&M references through needing help/back-up/having friends. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" - A stretch that entertains me: Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 Maybe a reference to the Marine's famous saying, "You wanna piece of me, boy?" DamageControL as Mr. Black: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 22:16 Plexa wrote: Another mafia bites the dust; + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage). In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious Dr.Dragoon as Mr. Brown: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 12:51 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling. Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands. This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVERquote]A dragoon is a soldier who fights on foot but relocates on horseback.[-/quote-] The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous. Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time DrDragoon this game you really were mafia + Show Spoiler + Fairly active prior to role release, only voting and random comments; Voted for: Randombum for mayor Kuja900 on Day 2 Abstain on Day 3 Abstain on Day 4 No vote on Day 5 ieatkids5 as Mr. White: + Show Spoiler + His quote reads, "Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Both scenes in which Mr. White is active, he shows up last. This is more particularly noted in Day 2 than in Day 4. As well as being the last to show up, he never, not once, has engaged in a fight except to make the finishing blow. This again points to laziness/procrastinating. 0cz3c as Copperhead: + Show Spoiler + Purely based off Copperhead's speech and 0cz3c's profile quote. Both allude to two choices, one being a mystery, and in Copperhead's speech the object in his right pocket bulged to the point of it seeming too big to hold whatever was inside. This coincides with the quote: "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat! Considering that his name is gibberish and his profile quote is in latin, this would be the easiest source of clues if 0cz3c is mafia. So, we have a suspect for every character still alive except Joe, Cottonmouth, Mr. Orange, Mr. Pink, and California Mountain Snake (though I'm still kinda sold on Clazziquai matching him still, the last day post didn't help attach anything I could find). So, next section: Strong Themes for Those Without Major Suspects: Joe: + Show Spoiler + - Strongly supports leader/helps his friends. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. - Acts when people try to leave. and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead Mr. Pink: + Show Spoiler + - Seems calm/collected and possibly careful. - Is a good fighter. - Is very fast. - Is quiet. - Possibly a connection with a hunting animal. Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street Cottonmouth: + Show Spoiler + - Has a very strong numbers theme, adding up to 44 both days he was present. Mr. Orange: + Show Spoiler + - Doesn't like/interrupts sound and/or calls for help. - Has never spoken. California Mountain Snake: + Show Spoiler + - Respectful, has a hat. - Perhaps someone with a musical tie as well, as per the "singing". - Seems to have a theme of dismembering/taking things apart, as he removed Dinmsab's head and went much further in removing all of aZnvaLiaNce's limbs. - A possible theme of helplessness. Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 16:22 MTF wrote: Everyone keeps bringing this up, but read through the wiki article on L. If Chuiu got his information from there, it specifically mentions L being proposed as being ugly, and several other references to making him unappealing during his design. In light of this, whether or not he is ugly in actuality doesn't prove things one way or another, as it is the information source that Chuiu pulls from that matters. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 16:33 MTF wrote: You're misconstruing my intentions. Specific portions of the paragraphs fit; just because others do not fit (NOT the same as contradicting evidence) doesn't mean a single thing. It specifically mentions L being proposed as unattractive, and nothing that follows that you posted contradicts this. It is only additional information. If you have a suspect, the best bet to clear your name is to tell your suspicions. Claiming to have one and then keeping it to yourself only shows selfishness and doesn't help your case in any way at all. O, and how did I link to the letter L? All of the links I provided link to L, the character from Death Note. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 17:45 MTF wrote: O, haha. Fixed. As for it being more natural, yes, I still feel that way; that being said, I think suresh0t is also an extremely qualified candidate for Wolf, especially with the multiple possible links to him you're bringing up. I'll add him to the list. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 17:59 MTF wrote:People from the/my (not sure which to call it here) top suspects list that are also on the Mandalor list: ieatkids5 0cz3c Ninja4ever. suresh0t L Other general personal suspects on the Mandalor list: unsoundlogic (if L comes up innocent, as unsound is on the TranceStorm list as well and I like him as Mr. Orange) Clazziquai Unforgiven_ve Jimtudor nemY GeneralStan Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 21:40 MTF wrote: Hahahaha. I'm gonna agree with this. Damn, we need something like quintuplet lynch tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:16 MTF wrote:Alright, updating original list with Plexa's new suspects, though I really don't agree with ZBiR. Strongest Suspects: Ziel as The Wolf: + Show Spoiler + First, the translation: Ziel German or Dutch. German translation includes aim, designation, destination, end, object and target. Dutch translation is soul. The Wolf, as I'm sure everyone knows by now, is incredibly accurate and has several "target" references. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. The italic in the last just makes sure to note that it was made clear his attack was, again, something most probably thrown. Now, qrs made a good argument for suresh0t being The Wolf instead, but at this point in the game, I feel the most natural connections are the strongest ones. So, I feel, along with Plexa and his associate, that Ziel is the strongest candidate we have for Wolf. OR suresh0t as The Wolf: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 11:51 qrs wrote:I'll probably vote suresh0t because of the clues that seem to point at him. (summary: + Show Spoiler + 1)sure shot: 1-hit kill with nail thrown down hall; twice says that Caller tried to dodge but couldn't. 2) signature: apology for taking on God (authority) but someone has to do it, corresponds with the Wolf's apology to Chuiu for killing him (Chuiu was an authority figure in the Mafia). 3) Profile pic: hammer--goes with nails. To add to the possible evidence against suresh0t, there's a reference to the Wolf carrying debris out of a building (after d.arkive's suicide blast). Why would anyone do that? It sounds a bit like a construction worker (the hammer again). Granted, this particular connection is a bit weak, but does anyone have a better explanation for "carrying a pile of debris"? ulszz as Mr. Blue: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 11:36 Plexa wrote: My associate is on a rolllllll + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote well done mr associate Also: 1 mafia out of: ulszz araav rts)night[mare infundibilum ahrara qrs nemy which fufills that list ALSO if that holds, 10 of the following are mafia clazziquai ZBiR BWdero GeneralStan Scorch suresh0t Lysithea Ninja4ever. Naib SoleSteeler L Jimtudor zeks Unforgiven_ve SoMuchBetter ieatkids5 L as Enigma: + Show Spoiler + 1. L was asked to protect decafchicken on Night 5. 2. created L as a "force of justice" why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". 3. L Lawliet (エル・ローライト, Eru Rōraito?), commonly referred to by his alias "L" (エル, Eru?), is a fictional character in the manga and anime series Death Note. He is considered the world's greatest detective, noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. 4. Obata believes that the design evokes "a feeling of mystery" and that the reader cannot determine L's true thoughts. 5. Obata asked Ohba if L could be "unattractive." - As well as many other specific physical references to his creation here. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground OR IF L COMES UP INNOCENT Spoinka as Enigma: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote: Okay, it just keeps on coming... Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot. Enigma ran his hand through his hair... Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he... Empyrean noted the features of the man.. Hello spoinka Ninja4ever. as Mr. Blonde: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 00:22 Plexa wrote: Okay, my associate stumbled upon the following find for mr blonde + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. There are soo many references to Mr Blonde being agile and appearing from no where, yet at the same time a rather strong figure... See the highlighted passages for evidential proof Obviously, there is only one thing that is both nimble and powerful and that is a Ninja, thus i present to you Ninja4eva. as Mr Blonde jtan as Eddie: + Show Spoiler + - His profile picture is of M&M microing against lurkers, aka, fire and retreat, which Eddie has references to/is nearby one other reference to. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. - Some possible M&M references through needing help/back-up/having friends. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" - A stretch that entertains me: Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 Maybe a reference to the Marine's famous saying, "You wanna piece of me, boy?" DamageControL as Mr. Black: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 22:16 Plexa wrote: Another mafia bites the dust; + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage). In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious Dr.Dragoon as Mr. Brown: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 12:51 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling. Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands. This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVERquote]A dragoon is a soldier who fights on foot but relocates on horseback.[-/quote-] The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous. Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time DrDragoon this game you really were mafia + Show Spoiler + Fairly active prior to role release, only voting and random comments; Voted for: Randombum for mayor Kuja900 on Day 2 Abstain on Day 3 Abstain on Day 4 No vote on Day 5 ieatkids5 as Mr. White: + Show Spoiler + His quote reads, "Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." Both scenes in which Mr. White is active, he shows up last. This is more particularly noted in Day 2 than in Day 4. As well as being the last to show up, he never, not once, has engaged in a fight except to make the finishing blow. This again points to laziness/procrastinating. 0cz3c as Copperhead: + Show Spoiler + Purely based off Copperhead's speech and 0cz3c's profile quote. Both allude to two choices, one being a mystery, and in Copperhead's speech the object in his right pocket bulged to the point of it seeming too big to hold whatever was inside. This coincides with the quote: "A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat! Considering that his name is gibberish and his profile quote is in latin, this would be the easiest source of clues if 0cz3c is mafia. Plexa's Other Top Suspects: Scorch as Mr. Blue: (more strongly suspects Ulszz) + Show Spoiler + Reasoning is probably this His profile quote is from a Rage Against the Machine song called Know Your Enemy, on an album that had more traditionally metal guitar music than later albums. Now, examine Mr. Blue's latest clues: Yes, it's a stretch. But, it's the only thing I could find even close to relating and the fact that Scorch is left over on the shortened Mandalor list if Ulszz turns out red. Scorch as Mr. Pink: + Show Spoiler + On April 19 2008 01:12 Plexa wrote: Basically, i am rather convinced that Mr Pink is some kind of super human... now Lysithea's profile picture has an interesting copyright - "HYBRID WORKS" - which could allude to Mr Pinks superhuman traits, the alternative is some kind of super hero, Supah can't be it because of a number of reasons, however, Scorch is a Super Villainesse (antagonist of superman) and hence, somewhat fits the criteria. Lysithea as Mr. Pink: (more strongly suspects Scorch) + Show Spoiler + On April 19 2008 01:12 Plexa wrote: Basically, i am rather convinced that Mr Pink is some kind of super human... now Lysithea's profile picture has an interesting copyright - "HYBRID WORKS" - which could allude to Mr Pinks superhuman traits, Clazziquai as Mr. Orange: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 22:40 Plexa wrote: Mafia must hate me + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following; 1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right 2) on the mandalor list SoMuchBetter as California Mountain Snake: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2008 21:29 Plexa wrote: The mystery of Californian Mountain Snake has finally been revealed + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand (think Crocodile Dundee) and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in {his chest, his gut} (pair one), {his arms} (pair two) {and legs} {pair three) and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Notice how the weapon pierces in pairs (and that its done "pretty soon")? well after careful thought the object thrown by Californian Mountain Snake is indeed a boomerang - a commonly thrown australian weapon. Indeed it can be seen that Cali is the quintessential Australian man especially if you consider the hat being the stereotypical hat of the australians (the corked hat) to complement the stereotypical australian weapon - he is a total stereotype if you will Thus, "AussieScum" or SoMuchBetter is indeed Californian Mountain Snake muhahaha Note SMB is on the mandalor list ZBiR as Cottonmouth: + Show Spoiler + [-QUOTE-]On April 18 2008 22:07 Plexa wrote: although i know MTF doesn't agree with this analysis, and my associate is skeptical .. however given that Cottonmouth must be on the mandalor list i arrive at this conclusion for cottonmouth... + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 Artanis as Joe: Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:18 MTF wrote: The only ties I have to you are people meeting gazes/things being broke into two. Until I clear up who that is, I'm still suspecting you. Not strongly suspecting you, hence you being a general suspect rather than prime, but I'm keeping you in mind. | ||
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54. MTF Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:27 MTF wrote:Something for the general town to consider: 15 Mafia are still alive, 10 are in the Mandalor list, 5 are outside of it. We have eight suspects for characters not in the Mandalor list here, thus three of them must be wrong or pointed at the wrong Mafia. Furthermore, if four or more of those suspects are innocent, then at least one Mafia still exists outside of the Mandalor list. I think the Mandalor list still needs to be our focus, but I wanted to post this as a general notice for the future, in case we miss a fair amount of our non-Mandalor listed targets. Also note that two of our non-Mandalor suspects are paired up with Mandalor listed suspects. Thus, if the Mandalor listed suspects turn up red, our suspects for outside of the Mandalor list shrinks to six, meaning we'd have to hit five of six for all remaining characters to be in the Mandalor list. Of those not in the Mandalor list, I feel only 100% certain of Crazie-Penguin and DamageControl. I would still recommend we follow Plexa's lynching plan and take Ulszz and L, though. Even though I feel the evidence isn't as strong for Ulszz as it is for several others, if Ulszz does turn up red, town gets a huge boost in narrowing down suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 13:11 MTF wrote:oops Edit2: Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to just leave it up here. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 16:02 MTF wrote: You've become a consistently less strong suspect to me for California Mountain Snake, but now I'm pretty sure Plexa has you in his sights for Mr. Orange. So, no time to rejoice leaving my findings as you just fell into his. As for this night phase, I don't know what the hell I'm going to do. I just want a new day and new clues to come now. XD I'm not finding anything new as I go over the day posts (though Plexa's associate is; go super associate go!), so anyone out there looking to clear their names off the suspect list/clear others/find new suspects please, please go at it. We're making progress, but town needs as many actives as it can get trying to pin down mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 18:09 MTF wrote:Things To Note: Day 2 vote = day we killed Mandalor. Day 4 vote = last vote a detective was alive. People not voting/avoiding big lists that might be checked before this day, but start voting a lot afterwards, should come under suspicion. Day 5 vote = day we killed Evilmonkey. Also, some Mafia that did not wish to abstain/not vote may have come up with the idea to constantly vote one person/only vote against people who others were not voting for. BlindAlbino did just this until the day our last detective died, then he hopped onto the wagon with the majority of the towns vote. Known Mafia Voting Patterns: + Show Spoiler + Crazie-Penguin: Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Abstain Day 3: Abstain Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. Day 6: L, died during this vote. BlindAlbino: Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end* Day 2: str Day 3: str Day 4: araav Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu Mandalor: Mayoral vote: Ace Day 2: Abstain, died during this vote. Queasy: Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end* Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote, died this cycle. d.arkive: Mayoral vote: Last Romantic Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Bumatlarge, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Died this cycle. Evilmonkey: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: Ghar Day 3: Ace, and abstain. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: Died this cycle. Known Mafia Total: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral vote: Randombum - 3 Ace - 1 Last Romantic - 1 No vote - 1 Day 2: Abstain or no vote - 4 Ghar - 1 str - 1 Day 3: Abstain or no vote - 2 Ace - 1 Bumatlarge - 1 str - 1 Day 4: Abstain or no vote - 4 araav - 1 Day 5: No vote - 2 Evilmonkey/Siefu - 1 Day 6: L - 1 Major Suspect Voting Patterns: + Show Spoiler + ieatkids5: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Day 6: Crazie-Penguin L: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu Day 6: Nemy (for giggles) suresh0t: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Day 6: No vote. Ninja4ever.: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. 0cz3c: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. Clazziquai: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: L nemY: Mayoral vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Showtime! *one mafia in this list* Day 4: No vote, seemed to miss the count. Day 5: Bugzitooni, no second vote. Day 6: L Ziel: Mayoral vote: Ghar Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Abstain. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. ulszz: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Showtime! *one mafia in this list* Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. Spoinka: Mayoral vote: Ace Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. jtan: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. DamageControl: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. Dr.Dragoon: Mayoral vote: Randombum *first vote* Day 2: Kuja900 *who voted for him* Day 3: Abstain. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: L Scorch: Mayoral vote: Fusion Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, bumatlarge Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Siefu, no second vote. Day 6: Crazie-Penguin *first vote* Lysithea: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu Day 6: Dr.Dragoon *first vote* SoMuchBetter: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. ZBiR: Mayoral vote: Fusion Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, BlindAlbino Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. str: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. Artanis[xP]: Mayoral vote: Ace Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu Day 6: Crazie-Penguin RtS)Night[Mare: Mayoral vote: Empyrean Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, Showtime! Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu Day 6: Crazie-Penguin Major Suspect Summary: + Show Spoiler + People who never voted, ever: 3 Mayoral vote: Randombum - 7 Ace - 2 Fusion - 2 Empyrean - 2 Ghar - 1 (no votes/abstains from this point won't include Spoinka who never voted after Mayoral election) Day 2: Mandalor - 13 Kuja900 - 1 Day 3: Wurm - 7 Showtime! - 3 Ghar - 3 BlindAlbino - 1 bumatlarge - 1 No vote - 1 Day 4: No vote/abstain - 13 Day 5: No vote/abstain - 9 Evilmonkey/Siefu - 5 Siefu - 1 Bugzitooni - 1 Day 6: No vote/abstain - 7 Crazie-Penguin - 3 L - 3 Dr.Dragoon - 1 Nemy - 1 Suspect Numbers (Combined Mafia/suspects): No votes/no votes after mayoral election: 5 (1 mafia, 4 suspects) Mayoral vote: Randombum - 10 (3 Mafia, 7 suspects) Day 2: No suspect matches. Day 3: No suspect matches. Day 4: No vote/abstain - 17 (4 Mafia, 13 suspects) Day 5: No vote/abstain - 11 (2 Mafia, 9 suspects) Day 6: No vote/abstain - 7 (7 suspects) Finally, Someone I Suspect Through Vote Analysis: + Show Spoiler + Bugzitooni: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: nemY Day 3: No vote. Day 4: nemY Day 5: No vote. Day 6: nemY Mainly because he has only ever voted nemY and has multiple instances of non voting between. He was also defended by BlindAlbino, which may or may not have been a trick (as the defense of MidnightGladius was). People Blind protected: LostYourSkills Lysithea Queasy - Comfirmed Mafia MidnightGladius - Confirmed innocent. Bugzitooni Mandalor - Comfirmed Mafia Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 18:16 MTF wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 19 2008 16:47 Plexa wrote: This is the current debate - who is guilty? nemY or ulszz? + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things(Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit(Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home(End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged(as in a car gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.(Fuel?) Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Maybe another connection He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed (someone driving down the road) obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and (Joe got out of the car.) "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. "Driving round and round (car connection) until its dawn To look for you in rooms we used to go I held you back, (joe always does this) I had to set you free But now I know what’s meant to be" This links to joe very strongly (its intuitive but if youre really not sold leave a comment) and the quoted section comes from the song in nemY's profile OR + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote Now im pretty certain one of them is mafia - but which one? For those who don't get why we're debating between these two: + Show Spoiler + 8-CDRdude 19-ulszz 27-nemY(2) 34-RtS)Night[Mare(2) 48-qrs(2) 51-araav(2) 52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) 85-ahrara_(2) One of those eight is mafia, and Ulszz/nemY are the only ones we have connected clues with. I'm personally leaning more towards nemY on this one. Ulszz has only ever voted once (Showtime!), which more denotes possible inactivity than intentional lurking to me. On the other hand, nemY did not vote for Evilmonkey/Siefu, he is on the Mandalor list as well as this one, and I feel the clues linking to him to Joe are stronger than those linking Ulszz to Blue. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:03 MTF wrote: Most people are linked only by a single aspect; Queasy, Crazie-Penguin, Mandalor, and Evilmonkey were all linked by name alone, while d.arkive was based off his image (I believe). Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:09 MTF wrote: Hmm. But, of those three, only nemY is on the Mandalor list. This boosts his chance of being the Mafia among them greatly, as Mandalor list is 1/4 odds of hitting a Mafia, Showtime! list at 1/8. In other words, outside of the Showtime! list, Ulszz or Nightmare would have to be one of four Mafia left in seventy-seven people vs nemY being one of ten Mafia left in forty people. Statistically alone, strength lies in nemY's case being Mafia, and I feel most strongly that his clues match up. Er, nevermind. Nightmare is on the Mandalor list. That strengthens his case opposed to Ulszz for me, but of the two I still feel nemY is the prime choice. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:30 MTF wrote: As a sort of apology (and to sate my own curiosity), I found and added Nightmare's voting history to the post above. Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 18:43 MTF wrote: One of our votes is definitely counting on whether or not L is proven innocent tonight. I'd also personally lynch any of the following before Sole: DamageControl Ninja4ever. ieatkids5 suresh0t Clazziquai One probably will be Eti or Ulszz, though. Depends on what the new clues reveal and if L is proven innocent or not. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:13 MTF wrote:O, and guys... We know that quote had nothing to do with Queasy. If Ulszz does come up mafia, I would consider this strong evidence that other mafia can and do get referred to indirectly, as Ulszz's quote says that he's a newb and needs reminding. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:30 MTF wrote: Being exactly what I said. Queasy = Sidewinder who was the only Mafia on the scene at the time (Joe showed up later) Being reminded directly connects to Ulszz's quote, so all I'm saying is that if Ulszz comes up mafia, we can be pretty sure that there are clues we've missed by not looking everywhere. All of our mafia pinning thus far has only been on the traits that individual mafia have shown, not by related phrases/traits that have been shown while a different mafia was active. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 06:09 MTF wrote: There is that, too. Well, both L (provided there are no miracles in his favor) and Ulszz are likely to be pushed for lynching next day phase, anyway. I'll look for other possible indirect links later tonight. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:05 MTF wrote: Being? I glanced through the thread and found nobody matching up to Matsuda, and the only person from the Mafia game in the thread is fusion, who is confirmed innocent by the lists. Honestly, it just seems like you're floundering to me. First you tried to disprove the clues linking you in a rather weak way, then you said you had a suspect for Enigma other than yourself, but refused to say who, and now you say that someone can be related from that thread without saying who it is. Being vague does not help you unless you are intentionally trying to misdirect. Prove me wrong here and point out who you suspect and who it is here that can be linked to Death Note as well, and then we can get started on going somewhere with your input. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:48 MTF wrote: Who would you link Yagami Light to? Amber[Light] is the only one with a name linking to such that I can find. I do admit, the correlation between Enigma's quote of being the ones to rid the world of good is much stronger related to Light than L being a "force of justice". and the false detective notes, I think L might actually be on to something, but we still have to account for the medic inconsistency. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 16:16 MTF wrote:Well, I looked through the pages and didn't find that much. Perhaps I'm just not looking hard enough/well enough. I'm probably unintentionally skipping over words from having read them already so many times. XD Anyway, here are the only links I can draw; L to Enigma to Investigation: + Show Spoiler + head out to investigate went up the stairs to investigate up to investigate over to them to investigate inspecting his window Investigation appears quite frequently, and if L turns up red (as it is seeming he will upon further personal investigation into the medic matter), I'd say that this pointed to him. ieatkids5 to Mr.White to Laziness: + Show Spoiler + Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room This is the only thing I could find. The mafia is never named specifically, but I feel strongly that ieatkids5 is mafia, and is Mr. White. Finally, something I know people are going to be on my ass about, Str to Cottonmouth to Words: + Show Spoiler + Alright, I'll admit that I searched this because I can't find anyone with links to 44 other than str; if someone can find a stronger candidate, go for it. This is my summary for str relatedness: Day 1: Words beginning with str: 0 Words str is a known abbrievation for: 0 Day 2: Words beginning with str: 8 mafia would strike, diving straight into ground Mynock struggled He struck him down struck Black Mamba OneBlueAugust struggled to no strength left stone that struck his Words str is a known abbreivation for: 2 straight strength Day 3: Words beginning with str: 1 stricken with fear, Words str is a known abbreivation for: 0 Day 4: Words beginning with str: 6 strange device fired strange man on his way surge in strength to knock the street Showtime! stabbed Showtime! straight across the street Words str is a known abbreivation for: 2 strength straight Day 5: Words beginning with str: 2 a street fight straight at him Words str is a known abbreivation for: 1 straight Day 6: Words beginning with str: 3 strong message and street where shadowdrgn streets as he riddled Words str is a known abbreivation for: 0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Days 2 and 4 are when Cottonmouth shows up and when the greatest concentration of str related words come into play. If the next day post contains 44 and many str words, please lynch str (after L/ulszz) for me if I am dead. Pleaseeeeeeeee. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 16:28 MTF wrote: I honestly agree with you. We don't really have a solid candidate for Pink overall, I feel. I may be disagreed with here by others, but it's what I feel. I don't think you're in any immediate danger of being lynched, anyway. There are, as you said, many stronger candidates for that before you and we can afford to kill them while waiting to see what new clues come about. Defense is the least valuable weapon in proving your innocence, by the by. Initiative to point out specific flaws in your accusers information is appreciated, but the most powerful thing you can do is convincingly point the finger in another persons direction. Not saying you absolutely need to at this point, just saying that such helpfulness in general is a good thing to have on your side when you start getting accused. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 20:41 MTF wrote: Least valuable doesn't equal completely invaluable. Of course defending himself accurately is valuable, for all the reasons you mentioned. I didn't imply that he shouldn't have done so, as clearing your name by pointing out glaring flaws prevents undue distraction and lets us focus on other targets. I only said it was the least valuable way of clearing your name, not completely unhelpful. However, pointing us to a new specific target yourself is much better than simply deflecting it from yourself. Defending yourself well is good. Pointing at someone who is a weaker candidate than you is bad, hence the "convincingly", not just the pointing. Pointing at someone who is a stronger candidate than you is very good and (as you can see from my own case) quite convincing. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:30 MTF wrote: This is pretty good analysis, all told. I guess I just needed it more thoroughly spelled out to me. It can all very well be interpreted this way and we have no stronger suspect for Mr. Pink. I don't actually have any rebuttal to any of the points, and I didn't remember to connect newly gained traits to new victims. Hmm. When it comes down to it, I agree with both you and SoleSteeler in that we'll know more surely with another set of clues. Until then, I'll put stock in that SoleSteeler is a decently strong suspect, and our current strongest bet for Pink, and we should keep in him in mind when the next set of clues rolls around. Edit: Haha, 'since I've been active over Mafia the past three days or so and from livereporting for the first time tonight, I jumped from 800 posts to 1,000+. : x Edit #2: See bleeding foot. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:40 MTF wrote: Er, I'm tired. I meant SoleSteeler, not Nightmare. *shoots self in foot* Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 21 2008 21:48 MTF wrote:For whatever it amounts to, I'm pretty damn sure Ninja is Mr. Blonde as well. Along with DamageControl as Mr. Black and ieatkids5 as Mr. White, I'd lynch him without worrying about whether or not red showed up when the night post came. I may be wrong, but I sincerely believe not. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:14 MTF wrote:Mafia probably haven't sent in their kills yet. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 12:52 MTF wrote: I can guess at one of a few scenarios to pass the time. 1: The most paranoid suggestion, that Mafia were waiting for L to get in and tell them who he's on tonight. 2: Crazie and/or Blind were the ringleader(s) and now with them gone, Mafia has become a chicken without a head. 3. They're just taking their time. Personally, number 2 appeals to me the most. : x Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 14:06 MTF wrote: #1 is actually possible, because the medic "who is protecting who" list went out yesterday while L was gone, so far as I know. Not saying it's the most likely, just that it's possible. As for the quoted part of your post, I agree. But you also need to match clues, as well. DamageControl as Mr. Black (all credits to Plexa), for instance, is very inactive in the thread, having never posted and never voted (despite posting on other parts of the site) and is personally a strong fit for his clues. Another pretty inactive person I feel strongly about being mafia is ieatkids5 as Mr. White. However, depending on what happens come day, L will either definitely be or definitely not be on the lynching agenda. The medic situation demands it, and the clues + situation so far as I've investigated all point to L being the only unconfirmed medic out of the original 8 (only 7 legit) that claimed the role. Either his innocence is proven tomorrow or we're gunning for him + one other. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:35 MTF wrote:I'M SO CONFUSED Things I noticed right off the bat: 1, 5, 1, 5, 2, 5, 2, 4, 5, 5, 3, 5, 3, 5, 2, 5, 2, 2 = 63 Number of str words: 6 strange struggled street struggled strength struggled Known definitions of str: 1 strength WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEANNNN and, This is the fourth (maybe third) day in which someone heard a strange sound and went to investigate it. And what the hell at Mafia targeting patterns. D: Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 16:50 MTF wrote: I think the list reference is significant, especially given that it was Eddie's only real direct clue for the night. The first thought to my mind was Santa sending his elves off to work, but uh...I think we should look at other possibilities. XD Currently looking through the day post again and making notes, will post in a moment. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 17:10 MTF wrote:Alright, calming down from my initial mass of confusion... First up, It is very relevant to note that Mr. White shows up last, yet again. He's always last and never engaged in any fighting alone before this, only came in to get the finishing blow. Note that the method he uses here to kill JoxxOr is also a lazy, time-consuming way to kill someone. I sincerely believe the clues are stacked against ieatkids5 here to be Mr. White. I think Ulszz is a safe bet for Blue. He is, again, displaying constant incompetence...Though the last bit confuses me. I'm hoping it references a different mafioso. This is the third day (second day in which it was a window) almost this exact phrasing appeared and the fourth time someone was alerted by sounds and then shortly thereafter investigated the source. We know Mr. Orange is connected to sounds. Cottonmouth is still irrefutably connected to numbers. I thought the magic number was 44, but today came up 63, so apparently not. I will be reinspecting this post and other day posts shortly. This is the second time Mr. Blonde has shot someone charging at him. I still believe this is Ninja4ever. I'm off to go sift through the Cottonmouth numbers again. I was hoping soooo badly that I had him pegged, but... Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 17:50 MTF wrote: I added the entire day post like I did with Day 2 and Day 4 to come to 44 on both days. In case you're curious about what Day 2 and Day 4 look like when only adding Cottonmouth's paragraph: Day 2: 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3 = 19 Day 4: 1, 4, 5, 6, 1, 4, 1, 4, 3, 1, 4, 1, 4 = 39 Or just 14 if you remove the numbers from New104's name. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 18:47 MTF wrote:In a desperate attempt to find some common link, I'm attributing the lowest number value I can to words like several and group, which is two. Few is only defined as a "indeterminately small number" whilst I did not count "another" last time around; I will this time. Day 1: + Show Spoiler + 8, 2, 1, 1, 1 = 13 or 15 + few1 few = few1 group = 2 Day 2: + Show Spoiler + grouped = 2 few, few = few2 another, another, another = 3 44 + 2 + 3 + few1 = 49 + few2 Or just paragraph: grouped = 2 another = 1 19 + 2 + 1 = 22 Day 3: + Show Spoiler + 2, 3, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 4, 1, 1 = 22 OR 25 + few1 OR 26 + few1 ones = 1? few = few1 couple = 2 another = 1 Day 4: + Show Spoiler + couple = 2 another, another = 2 44 + 2 + 2 = 48 Or just paragraph: another = 1 39 + 1 = 40 OR 14 + 1 = 15 Day 5: + Show Spoiler + 1, 1, 1 = 3 OR 16 + few2 couple, couple, couple = 6 few, few = few2 another, another, another = 3 group, group = 4 Day 6: + Show Spoiler + 1, 3, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 1, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 1/2 = 45/46 OR 50/51 several = 2 couple = 2 another = 1 Day 7: + Show Spoiler + several = 2 few = few1 another, another = 2 63 + 2 + 2 + few1 = 67 + few1 Or just paragraph: another = 1 57 + 1 = 58 OR 17 + 1 = 18 I don't know...I just don't know what to make of it. Maybe I'm just interpreting the numbers wrong. I just don't know. For now, I'd say we stick to the plan and lynch L/Ulszz and build up from after the results of that come. It goes without saying that we should still be trying to interpret the clues, but I don't think our course of action needs any changing just yet. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 19:13 MTF wrote: >.> <.< You're right. I had never noticed that. i'll go sit in the dunce corner now Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 19:17 MTF wrote: I think you're right to assume that the two Klive dodged are the same two Cottonmouth threw. It makes sense in terms of following events, even though it's a little awkward. Also, not counting the one that the Wolf used would be another good call in my view, as that one isn't used by Cottonmouth himself in any way, whilst the original five are used by Cottonmouth as a sort of trap. In any case, thanks for rattling my cage about the numbers. XD Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:02 MTF wrote: I kinda agree with qrs here. If L is mafia, then mafia will continue avoiding hitting whoever he's on for fear of proving he is. If L isn't mafia, we give him further chance to prove this as fact. Needless to say, I'm not 100% on L being mafia. With different things coming into view, my opinion on this keeps swaying back and forth. I don't feel completely right lynching L at this point. However...None of the candidates I'd suggest to replace him (DamageControl, ieatkids5, Ninja4ever) would take as much/have as strong a case as the majority think. So, I'll keep my vote as it is, though I'm not sure if we'll see two reds or a red and a blue when night comes. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 18:32 MTF wrote: Fusion has them all in his blog; I've stolen the ones with Mafia still in them and put them in mine as well. As for your suspect...It's about as strong as a link as I could tie to Unforgiven. But, I don't really feel that strongly that either of them is a good candidate for Joe. At the moment, I don't believe we really have one. Initiative is appreciated, though. As for the lists... Detective Lists: + Show Spoiler + <center>http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...id=67925¤tpage=123#2448</center> 01-ShaLLoW[baY] 02-SoMuchBetter 03-Eti307 05- 06-clazziquai 11-ieatkids5 15- 17-randombum { Pardoner } 21-Alethios 23- 25- 26- 27-nemY 28-ZBiR 30- 31-Energies 34-RtS)Night[Mare 36-Unforgiven_ve 39-Romance_us 42-SonuvBob 43-NatsuTerran 48-qrs 49-GranDim 50-Artanis[Xp] 52-iNfuNdiBuLuM 53-Ace { Mayor } 56-Camlito 58-Lysithea 59-fanatacist 60-SoleSteeler 61- 67-0cz3c 68- 69- 71-GeneralStan 75- 77- 78-BWdero 80- 82-Ninja4ever. 85-ahrara_ 87-Pangolin 88-Naib 89-butidigress 90-~OpZ~ 91-Scorch 92-Jimtudor 94-unsoundlogic 97-suresh0t 98- 103-SpiritoftheTuna 109- 114-zeks 116-Last Romantic 118-Plexa 122- 124- 125- 127- Out of these + Show Spoiler + * denotes being on the Mandalor list as well. 8-CDRdude 19- 27-*nemY(2) 34-*RtS)Night[Mare(2) 48-*qrs(2) 51-araav(2) 52-*iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) 85-*ahrara_(2) Out of these 7 people, 1 of them is Mafia. Note that those in the Mandalor list as well have a much more significant chance statistically of being Mafia than those who are not. Confirmed Innocents by Lists: + Show Spoiler + 14-imDerek 24-Alventenie 45. smurfingchobo 49. GranDim 54. MTF 90-~OpZ~ 94. unsoundlogic Summation: 13 Mafia are left, 9 (more likely) or 10 of which are in lists. 70 townies left alive, 7 of which are still alive and confirmed townies by lists. Those Not Confirmed Innocent: + Show Spoiler + 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 8. CDRdude 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 16. Puosu 17. randombum (Pardoner) 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 24. Alventenie 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 31. Energies 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 67. 0cz3c 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 76. jtan 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 82. Ninja4ever. 85. ahrara_ 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 97. suresh0t 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 116. Last Romantic 130. rpf Of those suspects we have that are not in the Mandalor list, I only feel strongly about lynching one, being DamageControl. However, lynching him at this stage would be unwise, as killing him only eliminates one of four possible left hiding in a pool of 70+, whereas getting a Mafia or even a townie from the other lists brings our chances of finding another Mafia up more. So, next day phase, I propose the lynching of any of the following: Clazziquai - Has been a suspect for awhile, and would be the third or fourth mafia to tie into randombum if he does turn up red. 0cz3c - Same as above. ieatkids5 - Strongly feel that he is Mr. White. Ninja4ever. - Strongly feel that he is Mr. Blonde. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 18:36 MTF wrote: If we can come up with someone strong on that list, we should definitely gun for them. Most of them are also on the Mandalor list as well, so taking them out not only gives us more confirmed innocents (many of which are, again, on the Mandalor list), but removes another Mafia from the Mandalor list as well. O, and I'd just like to say...Well played, L. You had me running circles there near the end! I think I was the only person among us cluefinders who wasn't entirely convinced of your guilt anymore after you posted about Light, but hey, getting one of us addled is better than any of the other Mafia ever did. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 19:27 MTF wrote: Not quite what I said... >.> But for what it's worth, I really don't think Scorch is mafia. As an aside, even though I know he probably wants to murder me (: x) for putting him back out there again, I think nemY is our strongest suspect from the Showtime! list. Until we get stronger clues linking to him or someone else in the list, I think we should focus on those we suspect inside the Mandalor list, though. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 20:20 MTF wrote:Known Mafia Voting Patterns: + Show Spoiler + L: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: TranceStorm Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu Day 6: Nemy (for giggles) Crazie-Penguin: Mayoral Vote: Randombum Day 2: Abstain Day 3: Abstain Day 4: Abstain Day 5: No vote. Day 6: L, died during this vote. BlindAlbino: Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end* Day 2: str Day 3: str Day 4: araav Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu Mandalor: Mayoral vote: Ace Day 2: Abstain, died during this vote. Queasy: Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end* Day 2: No vote. Day 3: No vote. Day 4: No vote, died this cycle. d.arkive: Mayoral vote: Last Romantic Day 2: No vote. Day 3: Bumatlarge, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: Died this cycle. Evilmonkey: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: Ghar Day 3: Ace, and abstain. Day 4: Abstain Day 5: Died this cycle. Known Mafia Total: + Show Spoiler + Mayoral vote: Randombum - 4 Ace - 1 Last Romantic - 1 No vote - 1 Day 2: Abstain or no vote - 4 Mandalor - 1 (9 others for sure) Ghar - 1 str - 1 Day 3: Abstain or no vote - 2 Wurm - 1 Ace - 1 Bumatlarge - 1 str - 1 Day 4: Abstain or no vote - 4 TranceStorm - 1 araav - 1 Day 5: No vote - 2 Evilmonkey/Siefu - 2 Day 6: L - 1 Nemy - 1 Just wanted to renew this with L's info. If Clazzi/0cz3c come up Mafia, I think we need to look realllly hard in Randombum's direction. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 20:24 MTF wrote:Voting patterns of the four I listed as prime suspects for lynching: Ninja4ever.: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. 0cz3c: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: No vote. Clazziquai: Mayoral vote: Randombum Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Wurm, no second vote. Day 4: No vote. Day 5: No vote. Day 6: L ieatkids5: Mayoral vote: No vote. Day 2: Mandalor Day 3: Ghar, no second vote. Day 4: Abstain. Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu. Day 6: Crazie-Penguin Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 21:23 MTF wrote:O, haha, I just realized I could do this. Alright, the following is a list of people who did not vote on Mandalor on Day 2, are not confirmed innocent, and are still living. People Not On Mandalor List: + Show Spoiler + HotZhot Dr.Dragoon CDRdude So no fek Fen Wizard imDerek Puosu infinity21 Alventenie SiZ.Fantasy Amber[Light] Vharox fgsvsd KF91 MasterOfChaos LTT str Kuja900 araav More_Minerals LostYourSkills Heros)Pink Korvspad Bockit Ziel Hollander Supah jtan AcrossFiveJulys Spoinka DamageControl omfghi2u2 RowdierBob AmorVincitOmnia Wysp Bugzltoonl GrayArea DTDominion rpf Total: 40 people, 3 or 4 (depending on the Showtime! list results) mafia. So, rough odds of hitting Mafia by list (I hate math, so no dead-on percentages here): Mandalor List: 36 suspects, 9 mafia = 1/4 ratio Showtime! List: 7 suspects, 1 mafia = 1/7 ratio *Personal note: I feel it is unlikely araav or CDRdude are mafia due to all the other suspects also being on the Mandalor list. Taking this into account, I feel the ratio is really 1/5. Others: 40 suspects, 3 or 4 mafia = Close to 1/13 ratio or 1/10 ratio. Edit: Overlooked one person for the Others list. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 21:36 MTF wrote:As a general side-note, we now have EVERYBODY who is playing and isn't dead/innocent in a list, whether Mandalor, Showtime!, or Non-Mandalor. This means, no matter who Mafia kills from now on, they up our chances of finding them systematically. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 21:47 MTF wrote: O, I'm well aware. It's just now it's all concentrated into three separate pools, so mafia vs innocents ratio doesn't just rise: it rises in specific places no matter where they strike. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 22:12 MTF wrote: I'm more inclined to believe that it is random. That may be a wrong, but 'since we don't know for sure, I don't think it'd be a good idea for us to gun for a specific character when we have stronger suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 09:10 MTF wrote: Not the Ghar list, but the Showtime! list: 8-CDRdude 27-*nemY 34-*RtS)Night[Mare 48-*qrs 51-araav 52-*iNfuNdiBuLuM 85-*ahrara_ 1 Mafia among those. Those (including you) with stars also appear on the Mandalor list. Ghar list cleared imDerek, Alventenie, and useless. Evilmonkey was the mafia from that. For quick reference to the DT lists: Fusion's blog post. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 09:50 MTF wrote: I have no suspicions of anyone on that list besides yourself and nemY. Personally, I feel nemY is a stronger suspect, though most others didn't seem to agree with me on that last round. Whatever the case, unless we find strong ties to one of you/someone else in the list, I think the Showtime! list will be left alone for the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 04:04 MTF wrote: Mandalor = Snake Charmer, confirmed by Snake Charmer being the only character not to show up after Mandalor's death. d.arkive = Taipan Snake, confirmed by clues matching strongly to him and Taipan not showing up 'since d.arkive's death. Queasy = Sidewinder, confirmed by clues matching strongly to him and Sidewinder not showing up after Queasy's death. BlindAlbino = Black Mamba, confirmed by clues matching strongly to him and Black Mamba not showing up after BlindAlbino's death. Evilmonkey = Mr. Red, confirmed by clues matching strongly to him and Mr. Red not showing up after Evilmonkey's death. Crazie-Penguin = King Mountain Snake, confirmed by clues matching strongly to him. L = Enigma, very likely, by clues alone. This leaves Eddie, Joe, Mr. White, Mr. Black, Mr. Pink, Mr. Orange, Mr. Blue, Mr. Brown, Mr. Blonde, California Mountain Snake, The Wolf, Copperhead, and Cottonmouth. Of those, I think we/I know for sure who three of them are: White = ieatkids5 (Seems that I'm the only one who thinks so at this point, though.) Black = DamageControl (Due to clues/inactivity here while being active elsewhere in the site) Blonde = Ninja4ever. (Due to clues.) And am fairly sold on three others: Mr. Orange = Clazziquai (Clues, general inactivity here whilst being active elsewhere) Copperhead = 0cz3c (Clues.) The Wolf = suresh0t (Clues.) Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:40 MTF wrote: Indeed. : x Just for that, I'm fairly sure he's innocent. Cleared up suspicions of MasterOfChaos that I had the first time around, and then showed me where the numbers were truly adding up instead of where I was looking for them the second time around. I have no real comments on the rest. I would like to know what ahara_'s quote means, too. I've never been able to interpret it in any good way. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:50 MTF wrote:Random notes about things as I go through the lists: I've noted this one before, but figured I should put it out there now, 'since it's all over the place: Note #1: - Someone seems to have a link to people dying slowly by bleeding to death. These four quotes all come from different Mafia killings. Perhaps we should look into something that kills/is killed by bleeding things out. Note about California Mountain Snake: - He is related to something clean/cleanliness. This appears both times he has shown up, and though it may just be metaphors about sharpness appearing twice, I believe that Chuiu is a good deal more cautious than that. I mean, just look at Crazie-Penguins' subtle slapped and maddened references. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 23:33 MTF wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Mafia played smart last game and he's obviously dedicated. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 00:25 MTF wrote:In light of the very odd behavior of saying he is a detective before he is guaranteed protection... I change my vote from Empyrean to randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 13:14 MTF wrote:Abstaining for now, per request. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 13:10 MTF wrote:I abstain for now, awaiting feedback from Ace/other clue interpretations. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 07:51 MTF wrote:Changing my vote as I finally caught sight of Ace's lynch plan. As I abstained the first round, I will vote on the people not on the list I have the most suspicion of. First vote: bumatlarge Second vote: LostYourSkills Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 07:29 MTF wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. Out of the list, he seems the most likely to me. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 04:06 MTF wrote:Changing on second page. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:09 MTF wrote:Changing: First vote: Evilmonkey Second vote: Aznvaliance Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 18:34 MTF wrote:Sorry, Chuiu. By request: Vote one will remain Evilmonkey. Vote two will now go to Seifu. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 06:01 MTF wrote:I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 12:56 MTF wrote:Changing my vote from L to Crazie-Penguin. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 + Show Spoiler [Mandalor] + 65. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:47 Mandalor wrote:Can't wait for this to start. I think I read every page of the last game although I wasn't in lol Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 22:34 Mandalor wrote:Thanks that you delayed it for another day. Love the new roles. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:06 Mandalor wrote:The thing is if Ghar is mafia and is elected as mayor, the bodyguard plan would reduce the possible damage he could do to us, but he could still sacrifice himself and our double lynches go down the drain. I'm not saying he is mafia (I even voted for him, but I'm kinda undecided), but I would rather have someone as mayor who is not supposed to be linked to any clues. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:24 Mandalor wrote:I don't know if you were asking me to do this exercise, Ace, but I'll just quote the "clue" and your post regarding it. I'm not even saying this clue points to him (I didn't play last game, but read it and the only clue I would have definitely seen was the tomissthemark one), but there is a slight chance it does (I would ignore the snake btw) and since I haven't seen any possible clues that would lead to another candidate, I'll most likely change my vote to someone else (not sure yet). Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:19 Mandalor wrote:it is day now . Can't wait for day as well, tho. I want more clues. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:41 Mandalor wrote:Well, I had some rl going and chuiu didn't reply within 2 hours of my pm sent. Sorry for that, I wrote you a PM now. Hope this clears things up. if not, gl town! Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:52 Mandalor wrote:Hey I voted for Ace as well! lol Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:38 Mandalor wrote:How do you know Showtime got a hit? Just because he said so? I mean, Lucas is dead and can't talk when he's dead, right? I'd consider that cheating if he talked. <- silent again btw I don't know what the mafia hitlist looked like, just in case you see this as a confirmation Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:48 Mandalor wrote:I still don't get it. So he pmed you after he died? Because before that he couldn't know that Showtime got hit. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 08:08 Mandalor wrote: He messaged Ace that you got a hit after he died. That is against the rules obviously and that's all I said. This also gives the town a huge advantage since Ace knows you're a confirmed townie now. I'm sure you would've been lynched in the future or a dt power would have been wasted on you. I'm hoping Mods ban you when this game is over, your insults are quite annoying. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 08:16 Mandalor wrote:Obviously Mafia members aren't able to step up and say that town is cheating, I'm the only person that can do so for now. I wouldn't have posted again if showtime hadn't posted such a dumb statement. Also, I'm not the only one who posted after death. And in addition the rule that doesn't allow dead people to post in this thread was only established because shallow posted "lol town is so dumb hahaha" like every day, I'm not doing that but do constructive posts. Once again, I'll not post again if town doesn't cheat or denies they did when it's obvious. edit: to the post above this. NO fuck NO Ace couldn't know that Showtime got hit. Showtime could've told him, but Ace wouldn't know if that was true if he hadn't recieved a pm from Lucas. Ace is smart enough to not declare someone innocent if he's not absolutely sure and the only way he could know that hit on showtime definitely happened is if the medic told him. edit2: I'm just going to post in this post regarding this "debate". I think I made my point clear. Mafia members can't post to show that the town is playing in an unfair way, so I'm the only one who can do so for now and I WILL do so because chuiu won't be able to follow this game the way people do that participate(d). edit3: If I wouldn't post here, chuiu wouldn't know you're cheating and therefore wouldn't tell me to help. How the heck do you guys see this as game altering btw? I'm not saying who my mafia buddies are, I'm not giving mafia any tips and I don't analyze any clues or w/e. All I said is you're cheating and I proved it. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 21:43 Mandalor wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 07:15 Mandalor wrote:I don't know why, but my vote from page 3 got lost. I initially voted for Ghar, but I'll change my vote to Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 03:15 Mandalor wrote:I abstain as well. + Show Spoiler [MasterOfChaos] + 40. MasterOfChaos Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:44 MasterOfChaos wrote:I think announcing running for major before the game should not be allowed, because it removes the possibilities for the mafia. Same goes for agreeing on any strategy beforehand. @Chuiu you should require the players who signed up long time ago or where moved from the last game to renew. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 21:49 MasterOfChaos wrote:His concern is valid under the assumption that a higher percentage of townies than percentage of mafia candidate for major. But I don't think that assumption is true. And I consider announcements of your tactics before the game lame. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 07:21 MasterOfChaos wrote:You should change the topic, so it shows you are now in the confirmation phase Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:11 MasterOfChaos wrote:Ghars plan is very similar to the one I had. But I don't think a DT should suicide to kill the major. Instead he should rolecheck the Pardoner and if the pardoner is innocent report to him. Posting the siglist doesn't make aarav seem innocent from my point of view: It does not give not give the town a real advantage but looks like you are trying to help the town. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:30 MasterOfChaos wrote:the problem is, that sacrificing one mafia for one detective and the major is good for the mafia. Imo if the major is mafia the detectives should repeat the process, but this time with the pardoner. And the plan o/c works if we use another major. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:25 MasterOfChaos wrote:Do bodyguards know they are bodyguards? If no, the bodyguard plan does not work with a mafia major. One other thing to consider is, the terrorist might kill the bodyguards who outs to get the messages from the other roles. Emyprean: your move might have been smart in a game with few mafia players. But not with this many mafia players which makes one mafia player very expentable compared to the gain of a major. I considered the move myself, but came to the conclusion it is unwise. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:31 MasterOfChaos wrote:One thing about detective is, that they should mostly ask about who voted for a specific person. A question about a clue has a shannon-entropy of atmost one bit, whereas the question about how many people voted for a specific person usually leads to a significantly higher entropy. | ||
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40. MasterOfChaos Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:36 MasterOfChaos wrote: I'm not stupid, I considered it before the game. But as mafiamembers are very expendable in this game(I'm used to games with <20 players total, not 20 mafia) it is no good move for a detective. I also have some half finished code utilizing shannon entropy to calculate the best target for the detectives, but as we have many detectives and they probably will be able to communicate that is probably not usefull anymore. @qrs: I think one detective detective is not enough if there more detectives report than there are really ingame. Also make sure the "few hours" are long enough. Not everybody is always active. I think 20-30 hours should be ok. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:44 MasterOfChaos wrote:I talked about the terrorist bombing him before he gets all the messages, so medics won't help. But a exchange of the terrorist for a bodyguard is probably ok for us. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:12 MasterOfChaos wrote: That is only proofable using the cookie-axiom, so this statement is pretty useless Mafiamembers are expendable in this game. Taking out the major is worth a dead mafia member. @qrs: The role question is imo not that valuable compared to the "how many voted for" question. And they are only expended if a mafia-member claims to be detective, which effectively kills this mafia member. So they are not wasted. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 18:28 MasterOfChaos wrote:You are spammers. One week absent, and 100 pages posted. Quite a lot to read. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 17:00 MasterOfChaos wrote:How long does the day still go? You the time of the end-of-day in the voteblog or the OP. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 23:11 MasterOfChaos wrote:Currently we have 20/110=18% evil among us. So lynching from a group where the DT returned that about 1/5th=20% is mafia does not help. We should devise some plan to make sure the mafia cannot easily adjust the evil percentage on all votegroups to ~20%. One way the achieve this is dictatorship of a confirmed good person. But that course takes out fun for all other townies, because they can no longer vote for themselves. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 01:19 MasterOfChaos wrote:@OpZ: yes I posted several times during the first 70 pages or so. But then I had no internet for a week. And you used that time to produce about 100 pages. Do saboteur and terrorist cound as innocent for the detective? And even if it's 0.02 less, it does not change the fact that it is good if the mafia percentage in a given selection is as far appart from 20% as possible. So we should try to achieve that. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 03:59 MasterOfChaos wrote:but imo the splitting should be done in a dictatorship way, as else the mafia can manipulate the lists puting ~20% in each list. Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:33 MasterOfChaos wrote:With which hostmask did araav join your channel, and was he authed/had a registered nick? Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 10 2008 23:40 MasterOfChaos wrote: Could you explain how enigma is linked to me? I hope Ace still has the "araav" hostmask, because then we can see if he was fake (or he tried to look like a fake) Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 18:25 MasterOfChaos wrote:lol I voted for the innocent of the two, but not for the guilty one. I seem to have really good detective skills. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 03:24 MasterOfChaos wrote:Mr. Blue related to lurker: Day 6 * "Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw" ->Uses Chainsaw, which resembles the spike row a bit ->secret weapon-> lurkerspikes are a weapon which coming surprisingly from the ground Day7: * "stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing" -> same applies to lurker spikes * "The tip was enough to do severe damage" -> spikes do damage with their tip * "tackled Mr. Blue to the ground" -> lurker burrows in the ground * "sneak in from the back" -> Lurker is a sneaky unit Who has is related to a lurker jtan: he has a screenshot with a lurker and marines Some additional clues fit here: "aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall" -> the lurkerspines hit the cliff and end there -> The spikes miss the marines (the blood in the image looks like a dead lurker, not marineblood) "but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed" ->missing again "All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door" -> Choke in the screen is the only entrance CDRdude Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend. So no fek Profile: I lurk TL.net. :O very weak clue Other weak chainsaw related clue Puosu ,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,. ASCII-Art resemles a chainsaw (Check it in the profile, I have charset problems with that string) Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 16:14 MasterOfChaos wrote:L not a detective but mafia, that sucks. He should have chosen another nickname. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 16:50 MasterOfChaos wrote:at least this time I voted for the guilty of the two. Last time was a bit emberassing, voting for the innocent and not for the guilty^^ Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 20:55 MasterOfChaos wrote:I still suspect jtan as Mr. blue Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 25 2008 22:57 MasterOfChaos wrote:Plexa I don't think Chuiu added a safety distance. That'd be foolish. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 07:47 MasterOfChaos wrote:I vote Ace Boxer 4tw Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 03:20 MasterOfChaos wrote:I vote for suresh0t Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 12 2008 01:14 MasterOfChaos wrote:Siefo and [Make1337]sureshot[/Make1337] Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 15:44 MasterOfChaos wrote:I vote jtan and L Posted in night7/vote7_page.003 On April 25 2008 15:52 MasterOfChaos wrote:wow timing + Show Spoiler [Meta] + 102. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:28 Meta wrote:I would like to participate! Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:51 Meta wrote:aww i got all excited WAY TO GO RANDOMBUM =( Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:28 Meta wrote:I voted for sonuvbob. I am highly dismayed by douches, and as such, I think he runs a clean platform. Also I'm predicting randombum got mafia. His campaign died out as soon as the day post dropped. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:47 Meta wrote:Mafia Codenames in order of appearence: Also, I added the parts of the story that immediately reference each mafia member, especially if I think there's a clue in there. Eddie - The mafia leader Joe Sidewinder "Stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable." Mr. Red Mr. Black Mr. Blonde "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." -Lysithea has muhammed ali quote in his sig... King Brown Snake "[DapperDan] met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again." The Wolf "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head." Taipan Snake "Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time." Enigma "Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"." -Perhaps GranDim? Mr. Pink ""Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding"" Mr. Blue "Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law."" Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 16:16 Meta wrote:Hey ace, i'm on that list twice. my real vote is for randombum. Posted in night7/main_page.064 Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:45 Meta wrote:it really doesn't matter, inc was inactive. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:53 Meta wrote: he didn't post, he didn't vote, that means he was going to be kicked from the game anyways. so yes i do know that Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:56 Meta wrote: I think showtime! is being a whiny little bitch but i doubt he's mafia Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:17 Meta wrote:maybe the albino is mr blonde! GET HIm! just kidding i doubt it Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 19:45 Meta wrote:alethios i don't think you understand how much knowledge ace really has about this game that can't be shared with the general public. if he weren't "working for the side we all think he is" the town would be pretty much fucked by now. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:03 Meta wrote:i say we start throwing down everybody we've had real, physical clues for and stop lynching people who are just annoying. the mafia isn't stupid enough to just be annoying, i'd bet most of them have barely talked all game. so we take people we've had clues for (bumatlarge, grandim), start lynching them, and see what happens. we're not gonna get anywhere like this. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 06:44 Meta wrote:"not the monsters" lol Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 14:45 Meta wrote: not much to do till day. i'm sure ace is mustering up something. hopefully. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 08:02 Meta wrote:TraceStorm seems like a strong candidate because his name has "Storm" in it. "Storm" implies lightning, which has to do with electricity, ala the clue from day four Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 05:38 Meta wrote: what clues point to caller? he's not on any of the lists and i've yet to see any clues. our best bet is to continue to go off the lists and link clues to the people on them. I admit i took a wrong path accusing trancestorm but it seemed reasonable at the time, and the best and easiest thing to do now is to continue down that course. Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:15 Meta wrote:I would just like to say that what just happened to decaf was hilarious. <3 Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:25 Meta wrote:Edit 5: I hope this isn't a bad thing, but after reading another 20 pages of the thread I decided I made a hasty decision. I vote for qrs Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 13:44 Meta wrote:I change my vote to randombum I have this weird feeling about empyrean and the people voting for him. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 19:26 Meta wrote:I abstain from voting. for now. this is subject to change based on what happens over the next day or so. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 14:42 Meta wrote:I vote for TranceStorm + Show Spoiler [MidnightGladius] + 109. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 MidnightGladius wrote:Please sign me up for this round, Chu. Regardless, let's hope that this works out better than the last Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:10 MidnightGladius wrote:Is the town really getting anywhere with all of this? While discussion does promote contested claims, which can give us more to work with later, trying to deliberately stir up antagonism will only result in lack of objectivity as more clues become available. Currently, they are essentially worthless. So, everyone, let's try to keep things civil and relatively calm. Until someone can convince me without falling back on vitriol or unsubstantiated nonsense, I'll be abstaining. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:58 MidnightGladius wrote:The plot thickens! [quote=Uncovering Ambition]Normally in ARG's, the creator gives a helping hand by using an anonymous account and baiting clues when the players get stumped. I think the staff may be doing the same thing. Possibly using the accounts "Akzent" ie accent, "Leunal", and "Chezinu" [edit added conjonner] Conjonner. All three accounts were created this month ,within three days of each other, and have very few posts.[-/quote-] Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:43 MidnightGladius wrote:We'll have to wait until more clues come in. At this stage, preliminaries are all well and good, but with nothing at all to cross-reference them with, any accusations should be taken with many, many grains of salt. Which, of course, we all know. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:42 MidnightGladius wrote:Good work guys, hopefully this will be a herald of glorious things to come Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:37 MidnightGladius wrote:Problem is, that's how Ghar's original post was formatted... without further editing, that is. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:51 MidnightGladius wrote:You make it sound as if he had a choice. What's one guess to another? Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 MidnightGladius wrote: That was in response to bumatlarge; sorry for the discontinuity, but I don't want to edit Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 07:03 MidnightGladius wrote:It's obviously not you, of course. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:25 MidnightGladius wrote:Haha, I suspect the day post writeup for that last scenario would be quite epic :D Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:42 MidnightGladius wrote:It's okay, Shallow. We still <3 you On a more relevant note, I'm not entirely sure what's going on in the flurry of PMs, but Ace has pretty much reduced this to a formula. Kudos to him, and good luck to you noob mafia trying to circumvent it. Try to keep the town entertained, k? Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 00:42 MidnightGladius wrote:Granted it was pretty amusing, and kept the thread bumped... but yeah, misconceptions on the fundamental rules of the game don't exactly help anyone. Posted in night7/main_page.151 Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:24 MidnightGladius wrote:Some thoughts on the post... California Mountain Snake was throwing "matter" at the side of the house, with no apparent damage. Later, he throws "matter" (presumably it's not directed energy) at Dinmsab, resulting in his decapitation. Odd. I haven't been going through profiles, but it seemed quirky and noteworthy. Mr. Black is a very good fighter, managing to grapple a baseball bat, parrying a knife stab with the bat, and then breaking JeeJee's grip and finishing him. Considering JeeJee seemed rather proficient himself - the towel-around-the-arm trick is pretty damned hard to get right, in my opinion - Mr. Black seems quite the professional considering the ease with which he dispatched him. Gah, pronouns. Eddie and Taipan Snake chose a very odd way to kill French_Toast, and the finisher was almost as nonsensical. In fact, the entire paragraph made very little sense. I'm assuming that French_Toast's neighbor isn't mafia and instead had lawn darts for a perfectly innocuous reason. Considering that there are a slew of convenient, painful ways to kill someone's neck on a broken window and then killing them on lawn darts (what the heck are those, anyways?), this pair speaks of having way too much time on their hands. Fishball's paragraph seemed odd. Why is he looking for lawn darts, and why would he run back to his house to call instead of using a cell phone? Meh. So, Mr. Pink is quiet and brutal, considering he convinced Mr. Brown to beat Fishball to death instead of just shooting him. So, lawn darts are important, and Mr. Pink is quiet but mean. LucasWoJ is much too nice for his own good :/ Sidewinder is really embodying the sick and diseased trait. If someone fits that description, I think it's worth a check. Not too much to say about Joe, but he seems a bit like the average guy, from his name and speech and actions. Sad to say it... but someone average? xD I'm almost certain ShadowDrgn is a Vigi kill. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:42 MidnightGladius wrote:The fact that the town's "strong" convictions have all failed should be a pointed hint to re-consider how we evaluate clues. Granted, there are a LOT of players, which creates overlap and ambiguities, especially when most of the clues refer to non-specific things. A lot of people in the U.S. have sentiments for change, and swords are a common motif in many members' profiles. The fact that you're using degrees or levels of relation (and that many other facets of Snake Charmer have nothing to do with me) makes for rather flimsy evidence. If Energies is too obvious to be a power-cutter, I don't see why my name and a picture of a sword should connect me to a rampant slasher. I think we should be looking in other directions for our next lynch. Going by subjective views based on ambiguous evidence won't get us anywhere. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:16 MidnightGladius wrote:I'd like to point out to Plexa, G.s)NarutO, and Energies that d.arkive was ruled innocent through process of detective-based elimination. No point wasting your votes there. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 10:59 MidnightGladius wrote:I think that a lot of inactivity problems could be solved simply by first trying to condense the number of posts into a lesser number of more meaningful contributions, and also possibly by lowering the number of players per round. And BlindAlbino, what exactly do you mean by: Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:52 MidnightGladius wrote:Add those to all of these guys: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:16 MidnightGladius wrote:Cross-referencing some lists: Confirmed Innocent: Here, the following coincide in the two lists: Whereas these occur once: Of these, the following can easily be count-checked: Abstentions: Do with this what you will. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 23:22 MidnightGladius wrote:Ace, if you have any more information from the DTs, especially any lists we can use, it'd be greatly appreciated if you would disclose them. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:42 MidnightGladius wrote:clazziquai, calm done. The town will be quite fine. And BlindAlbino, I agree tenuously with you on Energies, but suresh0t seems a bit less clear. What links him to the mafia, in your opinion? Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 09:24 MidnightGladius wrote:Yeah, we're definitely better off building up a net of cross-referenced count-checks. Since there's no time-elapse limit on count-checking, I suggest using the following to ascertain our current list of suspects and hopefully build up on more targets. Unfortunately, there are a lot of mafia hiding in the abstain/no vote columns, which is a bit irritating. In the meantime, though, let's check: First two are single checks, the last is meant to open a few more doors, hopefully. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 10:55 MidnightGladius wrote:I'm fine with that. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 22:02 MidnightGladius wrote:So, if aZnvaLiaNce is indeed the mafia from TranceStorm's list, then we can also confirm one from Chezinu, useLess, or fusiondf. If the Jack could check the zeks vote from Day 3 (only aZnvaLiaNce voted for him), then we can tie this lead up, one way or another. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 09:32 MidnightGladius wrote:d.arkive is on a list of confirmed innocents... which brings me to asking - why am I a suspect? Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:52 MidnightGladius wrote:We can't work with the abstain list at all, BlindAlbino Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:13 MidnightGladius wrote:So Shallow's 3 different people, 2 of whom are dead? I'm sorry fusion, but this isn't Psychiatric Ward Mafia, and no one's allowed to have split personalities Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:41 MidnightGladius wrote:... because it moves the plot? Bajad drovja, you're in no position to be forcing explanations for anything on anyone. The most suspicious person here is you, and trying to analyze Chuiu's thought process is absurd beyond plausibility. Last game, he used kicks quite frequently, and the town was pointing at chicken (since chickens don't have arms, right?). I think that the personality clues give us a great way to separate what must be a clue and what might be a clue. Let's keep working on referencing vote counts and using solid evidence; deviating from the model that we've all been using so far isn't exactly helpful. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 14:45 MidnightGladius wrote:Technically, I don't think we're supposed to talk during nighttime at all Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 01:53 MidnightGladius wrote:I'm back from Los Angeles. Sorry for the inactivity these last four days. This next week and a half will be really busy for me (AP placement tests for next year), and it seems like MTF and Plexa are doing well as detectives. If you want me dead, then go ahead, but there's one thing I just have to clear up first: Volrath Ishnikar is a character in one of the short stories I wrote back in eighth grade. Chuiu has no way to know this (unless he's Christopher Collazo of Tampa, Florida, which I highly doubt), but he's an idealist who became corrupted by the Reversalist Zarandur, who promised him a separate existence for him to declare justice upon. He's called the Faithless General for betraying the High Lord Zuranh Darok at Serandahal, and his quote is from his trial at the end of the story. I also want to apologize for seizing upon the lists' cross-referencing (causing d.arkive not to be lynched and letting him suicide our DT), but at the time it was the only thing I had enough time to work with, and I trusted the information that was given to us... a few mistakes I won't be making again. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:30 MidnightGladius wrote:I'm really anticipating what you're going to say when I come up green, MTF Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:51 MidnightGladius wrote:By the way,how did Plexa make that conclusion about the two of us? I must have missed it somewhere, but if he's indeed correct, I'll consider my death a suitable price for netting a mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 07:13 MidnightGladius wrote:Fine, I'll come out and say it, if it makes any difference to you: I'm green. For the record, I also disagree with a lot of MTF's clue reasonings (unsound =/= lack of sound), but I don't think he's mafia, and I won't until someone explains to me why Plexa singled the two of us out. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:23 MidnightGladius wrote:In that case, I trust Plexa for his previous analysis, and I'll go with him on this one. Either way, MTF will probably be lynched tomorrow after I'm vigi-ed tonight I can only hope that he does indeed turn out red. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:38 MidnightGladius wrote:I'm only working with the conditions I'm given - that one of the two of us is mafia (still don't know why, but I'm running on trust here), and that I'm not. To me, you have to be mafia, or Plexa is wrong; I'm sure the same applies to your posting perspective. Since the town seems convinced that the clues point to me, I concede my death. I'm satisfied in knowing that you won't outlive me long, and that there'll be at least one less mafia before Night 6. Of course, assuming Plexa's not wrong. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:09 MidnightGladius wrote:Yep, I can't wait to see how I die Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:42 MidnightGladius wrote:Eh, but it's a confirmed, dead detective's van... unless Chuiu is implicating that he and our van driver were in cahoots, which seems rather unlikely, if you want to tie it to mafia. We'll see at the end, but it seems superfluous to me. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 02:38 MidnightGladius wrote:Everyone owes me a post-death apology. Yeah, I'm asking for it now Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 02:44 MidnightGladius wrote:If I don't die in the morning, I'll be dead before night, the way things are going. Only thing that's going to save me is if MTF is vigi'ed and turns out red. Para mi, the chances of that happening are slim enough to warrant my death, sooner more likely than later. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:38 MidnightGladius wrote:Wait, aren't I supposed to be Snake Charmer? Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 09:47 MidnightGladius wrote:Sorry MTF, I thought that last paragraph was directed to me, until I realized you would never say such nice things about me :D Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 08:02 MidnightGladius wrote:The rampant, irrational accusations and analysis are getting rather irritating. I abstain. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 02:38 MidnightGladius wrote:I abstain for the time being. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:49 MidnightGladius wrote:I vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:36 MidnightGladius wrote:I vote for Suspect #1, in keeping with Ace's plan. Keeping the faith, man. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 15:07 MidnightGladius wrote:As he has been named, I vote for wurm. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 11:58 MidnightGladius wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. + Show Spoiler [MoRe_mInErAls] + 55. MoRe_mInErAls Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:44 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote FakeSteve for mayor, his in-your-face attitude and unmerciful putdown of dissidents will rock this game Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 15 2008 16:52 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Man it so sucked to be Alethios last game Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:40 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: And I'm all out of bubble gum. BALLS OF STEEL! Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:48 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Vote me for mayor, my detective skills will own these mafia Edit: To bold because my message is important Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:10 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Right, we can just ask a detective if the mayor is a mafia or not. This game just got easier Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:36 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I'll vote for SonuvBob but he has to promise to be like FakeSteve. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: LOL that was so annoying, I don't know if he was trying to insult them or what Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:37 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:My god. Ace is nothing like Fakesteve, at least FS was fun Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:07 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Hey we Townies have a combined IQ of over 9000! Oh, and I just brought up Godwin's Law Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:47 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Can't wait until I can start lynching people Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 15:54 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I miss the days of FakeSteve when the crowds roared outrage instead of praise Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:17 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Haha I already voted French Toast Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:09 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I can't believe any mafia would fake being a detective Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:58 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Tracil herself could not have masterminded such an incredible scum-fighting tactic Posted in night7/main_page.121 Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:21 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Either you are with us, or you are with the Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:33 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Moments are the worst unit of time Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:20 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Let us see if arrav will explain himself Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 05:34 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: So the detective won't speak up if they're both innocent? How is this any different? Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 17:07 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Sounds like you think your role is interesting! Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:57 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I've voted fusionsdf two days straight and I'll do it again. He's mafia Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:55 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:First detectives now bodyguards? It's dangerous to help Ace Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 04:30 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 04:28 Ace wrote: BREAKING NEWS Ok L has been confirmed Mafia. I'll explain to you guys the plan we used and why we used it. Sadly, decafchicken messed up the list making us think he was guilty. KH1031 said he protected decaf the night before, so either both of them were mafia or , KH1031 was innocent. So we told decaf to go vigi and kill KH1031. If KH1031 didn't die, we knew decaf was Mafia. So as a failsafe I added another plan. In the event they are BOTH innocent, put one of our suspicious medics on Decaf. We thought decaf would be a possible target if innocent, so if worse comes to worse then decaf would survive the night. However as I told Plexa, the only bad thing that could happen is the WORST CASE SCENARIO of both innocents dying. It happened. And the fake medic didn't protect Decaf. Who's the fake medic? L. Also Heros, I only accused you to see who would jump on the bandwagon and try to help get you lynched. I'll check the voting thread soon to see whats up. + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2008 03:51 L wrote: Images typically go unchecked because they haven't been put into lists, but after looking at the clues for today, I went over all of the current profile pictures, and came across this. I'm not going to point any fingers, but this reminds me of a certain mafia character on nearly all of his thematic levels. So I'm innocent! Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:47 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote SonuvBob for mayor Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 09:05 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:EDIT: I vote French Toast Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 09:19 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote for fusionsdf and alethios Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 08:45 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote fusionsdf Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 16 2008 11:51 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote for fusionsdf Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 09:37 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I change my vote from fusionsdf to Alethios Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 16:59 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:I vote Alethios and Spoinka + Show Spoiler [Mynock] + 81. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:44 Mynock wrote:I vote for Dr.Dragoon to be lynched. Oops, will have to wait 'till Sunday... :/ Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:00 Mynock wrote:I vote for nemY to be lynched right now, on high suspicion that he must be mafia now since he wasn't the last time around! Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 01:39 Mynock wrote:I honestly think it would be better for all the signed-up people to send a confirmation in. There were quite some inactives last time around as well, and with a lot of people signing up mid-game they might have forgotten all about it (it has been 2-3 weeks already for some). So I believe some sort of activity confirmation is necessary. Probably in the form of sending out the roles, and if one does not confirm their acknowledgment of the role within 48 hrs they should be removed and the role given to someone else. However it's even better to just send a PM to everyone before the game and only leave them in for the role distributions if they reply affirmatively. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:16 Mynock wrote:That probably isn't a very good idea to counter those on the brink of inactiveness tho. They are much more likely to check a huge ass thread where they can find all the info at once, rather than looking for some odd places in blogs or closed threads. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 21:06 Mynock wrote:Wait till it's a 100 and start! Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:37 Mynock wrote: He's already lying! Very suspicious! Let's see his points: 1 - Debatable! (OK, who am I kidding, that's a valid point) 2 - Liar! You're not a mod, you're a newsposter, you can't read edits! 3 - Irrelevant! 4 - Five! And you're not an admin! OMG, deceit! Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:11 Mynock wrote: I agree. What really goes against Empyrian here is that since he did well last game this feeble move right now seems like quite a misstep. Doesn't look right. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:01 Mynock wrote:Empyrian, none of the points you made make any sense. Every further post you make just makes you look more and more suspicious. I don't see what kind of tactic it is to always enable double lynches and why it is in town's best interest. I don't see how "bodyguard protection is wasted" once mafia will put multiple targets up. In fact, I don't even get it what you want to say :/ Equally like "A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town. Even more so than a DT mayor." So a detective mayor is better than a detective mayor? What? Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:05 Mynock wrote:I thought so too, but why is he using "/" then? :/ And what does it have to do with his goal? Is he asking for an "other" detective to come out as well? And all this talk about "a mafia mayor is just as good" is just... Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:09 Mynock wrote:Dark Templar? The term DT was used before in this thread several times, always denoting detective. What Dark Templar? I'm beginning to think now that Empyrean, if not mafia, is a towny saboteur who wants to cause misunderstanding just for fun cause he only got a plain towny or something. Either way, I don't know what to make of all of this yet, but you sure drew a hell of a lot of attention to yourself. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:13 Mynock wrote: The suicide bombers can't kill a mayor, it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever if they could. [edit: and suggesting all the bodyguards would die before is really far fetched] So either you haven't read the rules at all (don't know the roles, don't know the abilities), or you're doing all this deliberately, or you said something you now want to be unsaid. Any case, I think it's now in your best interest to step down from the election and let us decide later Because either you're not serious enough about the task of a mayor or a mafia. Not a good choice any way. Plus you've now made yourself sound suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:17 Mynock wrote: That's your personal view of course, so be it. But if a mayor says that it's the best thing for the town if a mayor is a Suicide Bomber (a MAFIA role) then... Well, I rest my case. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:21 Mynock wrote:And Emp, obviously we wouldn't want to lynch you if you're a detective, but as someone already said, pushing your will like that isn't a cool characteristic for a mayor. Besides, you just basically put it like "oh and btw I'm a detective, kinda an advantage, right?". So now it's the best interest of the town to have you: 1) Protected (medics please?) 2) Investigated (detectives please?) Basically now the town has to act and correct the situation because of your own decision. If you're right a DT mayor would of course be swell for town - but if you're not, we have to deal with the situation. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:25 Mynock wrote: We're obviously all aware that a detective as mayor would be AWESOME, the problem is just your "coming out" like this, so it forces the town to move radically. (Of course right now the medics really don't have any better targets, just as the detectives, so in the first day I guess it's not a big problem... But still, the Bodyguard Plan sounds good and solid - without too much guessing, too.) Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:17 Mynock wrote:I think it's very important that all the detectives know for sure that the mayor is legit. Of course saving up the ability to check a person's role is also important, but the start is of utmost importance. Also, once the mayor is elected everybody should be able to reveal their roles to him. Don't forget that if the mafia tried to claim a role to the mayor, and more than the number of the assigned roles claimed it, the mafia would be quite easy to spot, so I doubt they would try that move. In fact, another of the downfalls of Empyrean's self-revealing is as follows: While every detective just uses one of their checks to see if the mayor is legit, Empyrean (the only one who claimed he is a detective, and as such we should try to use him to save a role-check), should use his power to check the pardoner instead. He will probably be muted by the saboteur tho, so then one of the hidden detectives will have to waste another role-check on the pardoner, while Empyrean will eventually either be kept mute or dead as soon as a different target arrives. This would leave us with a mere 3 [edit: oh, plus the 2 from the jack, so it's pretty OK!] role-checks for the rest of the game, but It's still well worth it IMO. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:46 Mynock wrote: That's just what I said as well. Altho towards the end of the game I suppose the role-check will become even more important in case there is a case like with Live2Win. That's because, even though the plan of the role-townies revealing themselves all to the mayor would ensure all the roles are accounted for, if one of the roles doesn't have all the members being active enough it might pose such a problem that imposters might show up and infiltrate the system. Besides, there will always be plenty of townies who will draw suspicion to themselves through irrational behaviour (i.e Empyrean ). Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:49 Mynock wrote:Shallow, will you please stop with the incessant harassments? You have done absolutely nothing else the last 60 pages. And yes, we're all aware you're just "having fun". Also, probably the best strategy would be for the medics to decide themselves if they want to protect Empyrean or not, this way the mafia will have to guess whether to use up their suicide bomber (and potentially waste him) or just use up some of their killing power (and still not get the kill). Let them guess. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:52 Mynock wrote: Let's hope once Ace is in the office the plan works and we'll soon have a mayor who could then coordinate us and see if Emp really is legit. With a saboteur and a suicide bomber among the mafia tho, Emp is absolutely useless to the town now either way, except we might save a lynch if he is proven innocent. That's about all the use there is. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:56 Mynock wrote: No, you don't realize a vital part of the plan, namely that the detectives use their role-check ability to see if the mayor is mafia or legit. If he is mafia we will know at once, if he's not, also. Worst case scenario is we lose a detective vs a mafia, best case scenario is we have a solid foundation for the rest of the game. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:01 Mynock wrote:Bah, another horrible move by Empyrean (assuming he is what he says he is). I was considering the chance that Emp was a townie, in which case what he was doing would have made some sense. First, he could draw the saboteur's ability away from the real roles, second, he might have wasted some of the mafia's killing power or even a suicide bomber. Now, if he's indeed a townie he's made another crucial mistake, instead of confusing the mafia (and possibly sacrificing himself) he's confusing the town even further. This is getting really weird now. But for now, I want to hear what others think tho. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:07 Mynock wrote: Exactly. If he was a vanilla townie and thought his position through properly, he would have realized that he can hurt the mafia more by lying about him being a detective. Or, he's a detective after all, and is now just trying to save his hide. Or, he's mafia, in which case the confusion is obvious, but then he just made himself suspicious for no real benefit, and the best move would jut be to hold him suspicious without any direct actions atm. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:51 Mynock wrote:Btw, and advice to paramedics: protect people who you see as being active and posting lots of proactive advice. Think the way a mafia would - it is in scum's best interest to target active, helping townies, so make your decisions based on that. Make them waste their hit power. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:07 Mynock wrote:And yes, in case mafia claims to be a detective, Ace coordinates the detectives so that they make a round-check (can even ask a Jack to help) by asking them to check certain people and send in their results without revealing them to anybody else. This way mafia loses a member quite soon and quite certainly. It also has to be added though, that role-checking the detectives is absolutely important tho, as they and the bodyguards are the base of the whole mayor-town network and have to work closely with the mayor. Role-claiming other roles is also not a good idea for mafia, as roles can always be checked upon, and a mafia will always come into a short list of people and a lot of suspicion this way. Imagine mafia claiming a paramedic role. Now mayor assigns the paramedics to different targets (only he knows the targets and their roles) - now if one of the targets still dies it means the mafia somehow knew about the protection and sent more killers or the protector wasn't even protecting anything. Equally, if the mafia does not target the fake medic's assignment, it basically ensures the target's safety. So it's almost as having an extra medic around Fake-claiming roles for mafia does not seem like a good strategy here. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:18 Mynock wrote: I never said we should lynch you. The best tactic for town right now is to wait out on you and see how things develop. Lynching you if you're innocent is a set-back for the town, but keeping you if you're mafia is not really a problem. You'd just be like any other mafia, except more suspicious . Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:10 Mynock wrote:I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here. Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie. Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy. As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it. Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:19 Mynock wrote: I have to agree. So far, shitstirrers like Shallow and Showtime! contributed nothing but confusion. I really hope they are with mafia, cause whatever side they're on, they only hinder it... Just let's hope they're no special towny roles, would suck to have them wasted like that. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:40 Mynock wrote: It adds to the possible combinations and clue interpretations (like it has been said already, mafia is lying, townies are not, and lies are more likely to catch up with the liars in the long run). And to respond to your question: of course it would make no sense. But not much of what either you or Shallow said so far made much sense (all the stubborn bickering that is), so hey, how am I supposed to know? Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 22:57 Mynock wrote: I don't think they would communicate through PMs tho, that's not really efficient. If I was mafia I'd make use of a separate forum created for this reason, passworded and all. Then again, if they don't use anything like that - more power to us But yeah, awaiting day now, nothing better to do than speculate... :/ Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:30 Mynock wrote:Day now, yes? Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote:Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!! Daybreak when? I will die Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 12:43 Mynock wrote: Siddharta Fucking Gautama Buddha, you'll never stop, will you? Mafia please kill me now, else I shoot myself out of frustration -_-; Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:18 Mynock wrote: Nah, not really. Ace and I figured I'm probably a goner after Day2 - I then tried to just keep a low profile, but looks like that wasn't good enough. Regardless, if the mafia figured I was supposed to be Blue as an indication of activity, they should now be disappointed. Have fun playing this, I'll be curious to know what side finally prevails Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:26 Mynock wrote:Make sure you avenge me guys That whole using-my-head-as-a-blunt-instrument-of-pain was almost as sick as the new SP episode :/ So I'm expecting some retribution! Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 04:08 Mynock wrote:I vote for Ace mainly on the reasons stated by others in the discussion thread, but also because others all lack something. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 22:24 Mynock wrote:Due to the increase of votes in Ace's favour lately, I withdraw my vote from Ace, and vote for Randombum in order to get Randombum into the Pardoner's seat. I also urge those voting for Empyrean to reconsider, and make your own solid decision based on the arguments provided by a lot of different people in the discussion thread. Hopefully you will come to the conclusion that Empyrean does not put us in a good position with his actions, and that is not recommended behaviour for anyone in office. + Show Spoiler [Naib] + 88. Naib Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 19:02 Naib wrote:I'm giddy with anticipation for this game to start <3 Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 19:53 Naib wrote:I hope I get to suicide my a$$ on you for what you did to the town last game! j/k Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 19:22 Naib wrote:Just make sure you visit TL.net from Italy, too Italy also has internetz! <- giev role =) Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:14 Naib wrote:CDRdude, I think you left out Ace from your list of mayoral canditates I'd fix that if I were you! Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:34 Naib wrote:I didn't want to say this only a bit later (in order to not get lynched by an outrageous crowd) but Ghar is VERY suspicious to me. His profile quote just perfectly matches the given clue (sorrounded by 8 people, or 8 enemy squads). If I get killed by mafia now - you'll know who to lynch next day Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:37 Naib wrote:Ok, I like the bodyguard plan a lot more than the detective-checking thing. I'll change my vote to Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:41 Naib wrote: I don't think there's bandwagoning, but don't you agree that if the clues point to him at least a slight bit, then he shouldn't be elected as mayor? I know your plan forces even a mafioso mayor to work along with the town a bit - but it's ultimately still isn't a good thing, imo. But what do I know, huh? Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:50 Naib wrote: Except yourself? Plus you have no clues pointing at you as of yet? But you could of course still be a mafioso, I guess there's not a clue in the Day 1 post that can be (with luck or whatever) interpreted for each Mafia member. Well, this is what I like about this game, you can polish your thinking This is why I changed my vote to you, even though I'm not sure if I am right... Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:57 Naib wrote:Now I that I look back at the pattern of thinking / voting I had from an outsider view, it can come off as pretty suspicious! That's interesting, you're becoming a suspect when you're naturally trying to avoid that. I wonder what effect this post has in that? Another double-feint by me posting? (or I'm just bored, sitting and typing here all day) Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 20:12 Naib wrote: As stated before, you still don't vote in this thread, but in Chiuiu's blog. Q_Q Edit: goddamnm, this thread grew 18 more pages while I was sleeping. I'm not even inactive, but it hurt my head to read through all this >.< Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:18 Naib wrote: They, however, can potentially do good - so we shouldn't just waste them by electing a mafia major, or am I missing something here? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 17:04 Naib wrote: That was my question: Did a detective investigate you, found you innocent, then PM'd you? How many detectives PM'd you if they already checked you out? You obviously can't lie answering this, should you not be innocent, 'cause then one of them speaks up and you're doomed (the damage would be done anyway, but whatever, I'm fairly sure you're a townie). Also, random thoughts: I advise everyone to look at bumatlarge's posts so far. Damn, he does stir up a lot of crap (except in a few). Won't quote, that could mean being out of context - but guys, check them out. I'm (again) not implying he's mafia, he might as well be an overexcited townie as a regular TL user (no detective role-checking waste needed either). Just look out and keep an eye on him. As for Showtime: Another shitstrirrer (so is Shallow, but if you look at his usual TL posts...well...go figure) I believe both even being innocent, can cause more harm than good, so we might as well get them out of the way... Yeah I know, I made myself suspicious with this post. Why would anyone acting on the interest of the town urge to kill (maybe) innocent people without proof? Well, I thinki, as I already said that they can cause more confusion - and that's everything we DON'T need. Feel free to be suspicious of me - I didn't see a single clue pointing at me so far (nor did anyone bring up any), and I'm pretty sure you won't see any in the following day, either I might get killed by the mafia if I'm too smart though - but I doubt they'd care if Showtime and Shallow are just not-too-bright townies, and nothing else. Cheers Ace on mayor, and tough luck with the first lynch. You misinterpreted Chuiu's post a bit but that may be forgiven - you were in a haste and everyone was bugging you to carry out your plan. We make mistakes when being urged. Here's Ace's thinking from my point of view of why he didn't lynch anyone "suspicious" or "over-active" - even Empy: this should be obvious. Active contributing people are helping and revealing themselves at the same time. If you add something to discuss, you're valuable. If you fake doing it, you may become suspicious later. No need to stab a good citizen taking your chances. As for not lynching a lurker(who didn't post but only voted): Just look at what he said, guys! "If you're just a townie, you better not stir up confusion" that includes remaining silent, when you have nothing to say. It doesn't mean you're counterproductive or inactive, and even though this group has mafia members in fairly high %, if they didn't discuss activity internally, it's still not always worth it. Should Ace got it clear that inactives are getting removed / their roles redistributed, he would have lynched someone from this group, I'm sure. But he could have hit someone who just got a role of an inactive anyway. Same stab-in-the-dark chances. Sorry if this post is not really coherent, I just woke up and read through all the 10ish pages that popped while I slept. Edit: Huge wall of text critically hits you for 666. You die Sorry guys Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:50 Naib wrote: That's a valid point, but if that townie has a blue role (may it be not THAT important, but imo every blue is important) he might cling to it as a baby, and be afraid to post in order to not reveal himself by some accident, or even getting into the spotlight of the mafia. That's another thing to consider. Again, I don't support this behaviour, but we need to think with the other people's heads! It doesn't matter how 'gosu' in this game Ace is, if he can't project the likely actions of 'lesser-qualified' (ie more inexperienced in Mafia games) people, may it be mafioso or townie. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 18:00 Naib wrote:Or maybe just stop with the senseless one-liners, as there's too much to read for anyone who just sleeps regularly. Not to mention those who don't have time to check here more than once a day. Shall we? Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:01 Naib wrote:That hurts me that there are people who don't read thoroughly through the thread and then come and spew out stupid questions...Seriously, there was a game up here already - you know what you signed up for! Now go and read the whole damn thing all of you, before posting something that was answered already. edit: punctuation Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:07 Naib wrote: No, no, no and again a NO! That is not a strategy! That is a strategy for the first lynch only and nothing else. I feel I explained it quite well, feel free to read it all again (Ace can back it up of course, I bet he can form better arguments seeing English is his first language, and not mine ) Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:18 Naib wrote: A "gift" oh yeah. Definitely. I'd really suggest you to read through the thread again. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 07:54 Naib wrote:Edit: lol, massive amount of posts came in since I posted this. So " @ the above" changed to @ French_Toast's previous post @ French_Toast: 4 pool is easily countered even when not scouted properly at today's standards. Because some people clearly didn't read that post where it was explained, or misunderstood it. So maybe there's need for more reiteration. Next random topic popping up: I think as Ace put it, we waited enough for a detective to speak up and prove his innocence. It might sound as a gamble if we believe they have done so, and didn't speak up according to plan so Ace is innocent - since there's always a chance they missed posts for 2 days straight, didn't agree with the plain due to plain selfishness or didn't know that they can use their role anytime. But as Ace said that, we're as good as dead in this case. Another note worth mentioning about this topic, since the 2 days (I assume Chuiu meant game-days, not "real" days, he'll correct me if I'm wrong I guess) that he'll redistribute the blue roles off of inactive people. But that's not done yet! So if we PM our roles now to Ace, as a townie, out of our best interest - it might still cause problems! What if I was a mere townie, just PMed Ace, then a few hours later I would have to be like "oh, hehe X was inactive, I got his Jack role, now count me in as Jack." He could believe I'm not lying then it would be fine, or it could be just a mafia ploy for even more confusion. Of course Ace's plan has holes, but why would he post every possible hole? It's enough to post holes that you know the solution for, so you can lure the mafia into your trap Let their heads ache and may all of them act out of desperation by the sound of the new plan - even if it's not an insta-win of course. But we really do need a strategy (sad for those that don't get it and act selfish, like some of the above - just lynch them along with shit-strirrers I say, problem solved! This is no democracy!) Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:11 Naib wrote:The "selfish" part wasn't actually directed at you in person, just in general. Oh and Shallow: ur mum ;( See: the above one-liner is the quality of most of your posts made here. And it's not only me noticing / saying (Hell, it's not even only about Mafia but TL in general, just look around). Maybe everyone on the road is going on the wrong side...but maybe it's you? /derailment off Can't wait to see who dies when they day arises...That'll be how much hours approximately from here on? Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:32 Naib wrote: Now it hits me! That's why this game was so familiar yet so new. I've played it offline couple o' dozen times, once at a long chess-competition (at night after the day's matches, instead of resting). It's hella fun. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:35 Naib wrote:French_Toast you misunderstood me again, I meant "general" as in: people who don't read / don't get it / don't PM. I didn't mean general as "French_Toast's posts in general". You take everything personal edit: the followup part of my post that you quoted can be misunderstood, too, and I think you took it on yourself: it's directed at Shallow[bay] to try to get him get his act together. Well that's too much posting from me again: I'm off to sleep. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 20:12 Naib wrote: Well, you can't just "do that" even though we got way less spam this time (wait until next clues are out though, I'm sure that'll mean +20 pages under 5 hours ). Even though the Town has very few things to do atm, the Mafia needs a lot of time to organize (20 people in a PM madness can be pretty time-consuming) So let's just wait and pray for our lives Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 20:25 Naib wrote: I didn't play last game, but just imagine it! (or read what Empy wrote about the first game) Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:54 Naib wrote: You would know if a paramedic was protecting you should you have incurred a hit as it is stated in the game rules. You could have been protected by a paramedic but not get hit, if you didn't get a PM about it. (correct me if I'm wrong here please, but I'm positive that I'm right) I didn't read through the clue interpretations (I skipped them on purpose so I can post my own ideas), I have an even stronger suspicion about Ghar than I had the day before, therefore I'll vote for him (pretty soon). I guess it's kinda obvious, but I'll toss this in here anyway: it's because the "being sorrounded" quotes. 2 of the very same kind, imo, can't be a coincidence. Edit: Bolded Ghar's name and added reason Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 22 2008 23:59 Naib wrote:After reading up on the clues and the various interpretations, my thoughts are: I think Lostyourskills, L, and Hittegods are very suspicious too, but imo, we're on the wrong track with Ninja4ever. I would post a longer explanation if I had the time (feel free to troll me with "BANDWAGONER OMG!" for it). Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:04 Naib wrote: You misunderstood me. You don't get a notice if you're being watched, only if you are watched, targetted by an attack and saved! Quoting the rules now to make it even more clear: "Paramedic (...) A clue will not be left behind if he is saved, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic and the person saved know if they were targeted and saved." I guess that also means, that for example, if 2 paramedics are protecting X, and X gets hit by 2 mafia, he won't get a notice "Hey you were hit by 2 mafia, but 2 medics saved your ass" but only "you were hit and saved". Both medics would get a PM like this in this case: "X, that you protected, was hit, but he's still alive." This way, both medics would know that the person they watched for is saved, but they wouldn't know that more than 1 medic was watching him, nor they would know if there were more than 1 mafia hits. That's my interpretation, and I'm fairly sure it's correct. If Chuiu or anyone more experienced finds a flaw in my explanation, feel free to point it out. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:27 Naib wrote:@ JeeJee Sorry, I didn't intend to answer that part of your post, I think I misunderstood you a bit, thinking that you didn't "get" that whole "when-you-get-a-PM" thing. Sorry for that. As for your explanation, yes, that's one side of the argument - but maybe he just wants someone to share information with? Like, a smaller work-group that Ace is putting together. Maybe I'm just naive | ||
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88. Naib Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:38 Naib wrote:Heh, I totally forgot that MSPaint that links to Ghar, yet I still voted from him as the first one I think? Ironic. Poor Mynock was not only killed - seriously, that's a damn execution! Ace is 99% innocent because of: 1, the detective-plan. It was (hopefully) accepted by at least 1 detective to check him out, and if he's not legit ("What is Ace's original role?" question ) then speak up and sacrifice oneself. 2, his mentioned ongoing PM convo with Mynock, predicting Mynock would be dead and being sad about not being able to organize paramedic defence. Although this could be a clever feint, it's unlikely, especially combined with reason #1. I'd say we lynch Ghar - he pretty much disappeared from the thread anyway after his first few attempts at self-defense vs the Day 1 clue, I'd say he'd be the most certain hit. Ace knows a few more, but imo it's better that he saves his information - and if he's sure, and if he has any Jack / Vigilante that reported in, he can send them to do the killing. (if we need it - maybe we can save their power for later, and just go on by lynching day by day. Should we kill all the likely mafia canditates, we might run out of targets for the next lynch. That's a point to consider, even though more clues will surely pop up.) Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:39 Naib wrote:I changed my vote from Ghar to Mandalor only on Ace's request, to be sure. Ghar, you're going down next time >.< Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:51 Naib wrote: Who all yell "Waaah, fresh meat!!" right? Anyway, I think I know where Ace lied to lure Mandalor into his trap, of course I won't reveal that in public (Ace would have done that if he wanted to, it would work vs us if we just told the Mafia about the method). Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:45 Naib wrote: I'm pretty sure Chuiu bumps those out of the game faster than we'd bump them on the suspect list My #1 is Ghar. For the MSPaint, and the 2 "being sorrounded" like references (yeah, just kinda quoting myself from earlier). I don't suspect Pink or French, I'd say they're just stirring cr*p immaturely. I find Showtime!' behaviour a bit erratic, but I have to look up his posts once again before I accuse him of anything. That, I will do in the morning because I'm dead tired now. P.s.: Happy Easter Holidays Mandalor! Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:12 Naib wrote:I still think that the clues interpreted vs Ninja4ever are wrong leads pointing to other people (in other words: hey, I am not suspicious of you!) P.s.: Nice lynching Ace, way to go! Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 21:08 Naib wrote: He was also connected to the clue jumping from the roof, surprising the victim striking from the shadows (lights were out). I'd say that clue would definitely point to Ninja4ever as very vague at best, but could be connected to someone else easier. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 26 2008 00:08 Naib wrote:Someone kill Showtime, please Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 08:00 Naib wrote: That's why he said he'll vote for a random person, so the detective can check the group along with him (if he votes with a small herd, a detective checking that out [unlimited ability: "How many of the people that voted for X are mafia?" question] could easily validate his trustworthyness to Ace) Please, guys, this is like the 3rd time a question like this comes up. At least try to remember what each member of the game can do (especially detectives, everyone seems to forget their abilities) Edit #2: screwed up quoting, that was the reason for my edit Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 08:29 Naib wrote:We're still rooting for you, Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:54 Naib wrote:a, and c, Then proceed with lynching both. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:59 Naib wrote:Well, this is getting out of hand...I'm not taking part in this any longer under these circumstances... Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:40 Naib wrote: I was about to ask that. I mean he didn't say anything in the thread (did he even post? I surely missed it), so my first impression seeing him die AND being a detective had me puzzled - I guess your group's security was compromised? Well, I'm glad you know how to deal with it...because as things are now with everyone flaming one another, I sure as hell don't keep up to date with this thread anymore... Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:31 Naib wrote: Just to clarify, you want us to vote for suspect #1 OR #2 according to your list (NOT both) and then do whatever we want with our second vote, right? Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:54 Naib wrote: He divided the active people into 2 colums so suspect #1 and #2 still gets lynched, AND he can narrow down on the Mafia with the detectives, too. It's really not that complex, duh. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 00:31 Naib wrote:I'm not changing my vote again, it's set according to plan anyway. But I really agree with what Chuiu was posted, this is getting ridiculous (not to sound as a smartass, but that was the first thing that came to my mind about this game and having unlimited options of vote change - cluttering.) Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 03 2008 23:58 Naib wrote:Well, I'm just pretty sure they didn't really separate their killing list as the mafia (somehow) had sure information about those detectives - therefore just focused on them to get them out of the way. I just hope Ace now knows who the impostors are (or well, if he's mafia, then it's good riddance anyway , but I seriously doubt that still.) Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:15 Naib wrote: Why "probably" ? You would know that you were targetted, if you were. Or did I misread something again at the rules section? Besides, don't answer this please, as it'd be against the rules, but still. If you didn't know you were attacked while having protection, then you weren't attacked (afaik). I'm waiting on what Ace has to say now. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 23:21 Naib wrote:I don't think useLess was away for the weekend, since he's so active trying to reach an all-time low on TSL since the beginning. My ban(I mean vote) falls for him out of complete unsympathy! I really don't have time atm to rehearse about clues, but I will do so on Monday at the latest, and see if I can come up with something smart (props to Plexa, btw). Go town! Let's rape some mafia EZ. And Ace, since you didn't say so yet, no roleblock? Maybe a double-lynch while we can, to weed out some? (if we find 2 really noteworthy suspects, that is). My other vote could be TranceStorm (or Energies) Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 23:31 Naib wrote:I must have missed it somewhere then, even though I was 100% sure I read everything *goes back to previous pages* Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 08 2008 23:41 Naib wrote:useLess and fusion (or Caller) is supposed to die Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:42 Naib wrote:I'm all in for the player cap...the mass meaningless posts turned my attention away from this game (not that I would have time to camp the thread 24/7 but I'd definitely care more, barring Showtime! wasn't here). Well...I don't think everyone having a role could be very good, but I'm pretty sure we haven't "seen it all" regarding Mafia games, and Chuiu can come up with something VERY enjoyable. Also, as for camping for signups - I'd rather have "seeds" or so to speak from those that were at least somewhat active this / previous game (should they want to play, of course) in addition to camping at a given time. Just my 2 cents. Back to reading clues. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:33 Naib wrote:Release that name Ace, him and useLess seem to be very worthy of lynching. And too bad luck with the d.arkive thing..it was a clever ploy from the Mafia to use the inactive Jack, and cover one of themselves as Jack (or just pure luck, but it did turn good out for them after you revealed 1 Jack is inactive - and they used it a smart way, so props to whoever thought that up!) Edit: p.s.: if you don't release the name we're still in trouble with inactives, I fail to see how that would change anything p.p.s.: props to you Chuiu for still maintaining us whole whiny bunch, while withholding your pain! You clearly deserve more credit for this than what you get. I hope it's getting better. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:30 Naib wrote:Maybe it doesn't change anything yet, but we should never let even the smallest minor mistake slip by, or we end up like Ace - infiltrated Going off to the vote thread to declare my votes on Seifu and Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 21:43 Naib wrote:I'm pretty sure the new day's post will relate more clues to LostYourSkills, and therefore he'd better be off lynched. (Damn'd inactives btw, Siefu made us "waste" a double lynch) My sincere apologies later on if you turn out be green, but I'll just call you out and say you're lying. Your name has been brought up before but the dust settled as we focused on other things - so you didn't come out to defend yourself. Now the halo's slipping down to choke you - and you suddenly got "holidays when you have free time to check the thread". There have been a few who made up excuses like that already, and to me, it is very suspicious. Especially since we nailed Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 12 2008 21:53 Naib wrote:About the nails: First, the 5 nails that New104 finds are Empyrean's remains. Cottonmouth first fires 7 (1+6), then 3 more nails at him, and finally his last shot gets interrupted by The Wolf (0) therefore I'd also say this could link to Eti307. Some mentioned suresh0t and the hammer reference (he's holding a hammer in his hand on his profile picture). He didn't really try (although he did) to defend himself, unlike a few mafia that we charged - I guess (this isn't hard to figure out) that they're all trying various tactics on evading the charges thrown at them. I find his behaviour suspicious, too. I'd encourage those smarter than me to go further on these people. And LostYourSkills, too (he really has nothing in his profile, this has been cited over a dozen times. And that habitual luck is so outstanding...) Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 03:32 Naib wrote:Wow, I feel like a dumbass for missing that Black Mamba "felt his way up". The toll of being a non-native speaker of the language, eh. I totally imagined that situation differently as I read it through, but now MTF and Plexa convinced me about BlindAlbino being Mafia (I pray to God that this time we're correct though...we can't afford to waste many more lynches, especially since Ace is roleblocked again). We should also nail that Sabouteur. I suspect, unlike d.arkive (the other special Mafia role) he's a silent lurker, without posting in the thread, and (intentionally) missing (not sure here!) votes sometimes. Should look at those people more closely - but ofc nailing sure Mafia is more important than running after the trail of the Saboteur. edit: Grammar (added "also" into the Saboteur sentence ) Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 01:00 Naib wrote: A counter-argument that you should (imo) take notice on is that we got asked as a whole, by Ace and those discussing the mayoral voting that we should switch votes from Ace to randombum, in order to not let Empyrean get a position of power. So maybe those Mafia were just trying to hide amongst innocent townies, therefore this may not be a reason to draw our suspicion on randombum (I don't say your standpoint is entirely incorrect, but I'm saying let's not take haste. We got stronger leads to go after, like L or spoinka, etc.) Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 23:27 Naib wrote:I suggest you Plexa to name like 3 people who you are the most certain of being Mafia (apart from that one which we hopefully lynch today), so our remaining few Vigi kills don't go to a waste / they don't get killed before they have the chance to rape anyone. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:12 Naib wrote:Ha, die feg =) Now let's kill L, if we see the daylight once again! Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 18:28 Naib wrote:I think we should get rid of Eti and SoleSteeler the next double lynch, those accusations seem foolproof. And we need to reduce mafia numbers as fast as we can. (Unless you can find a clue that points to the sabouteur himself, but I doubt such things exists.) Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:55 Naib wrote: Not to mention the Death Note references (to L obviously) only came up AFTER someone in the thread mentioned that L should be connected with Death Note-ish clues, should he really be Mafia. I'd say that's more than suspicious Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 18:17 Naib wrote:I vote araav for mayor. I read the thread through, and his posts are the ones making sense the most This is SCRAPPED I changed my vote (latter post) Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 01:38 Naib wrote:I change my vote: Ace for mayor it is. I'll edit my older post now. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 23:03 Naib wrote:I vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:35 Naib wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor on Ace's request. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 20:52 Naib wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 06:26 Naib wrote:Since double lynch is announced, I "change" my vote. I cast my second wote on wurm. My first vote remains on Ghar, unchanged. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 05 2008 01:16 Naib wrote:I abstain for now. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 23:23 Naib wrote:Blah, screw this. I vote for fusiondsf (die evul) edit: this of course means that my previous post about abstaining has lost it's meaning Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 17:31 Naib wrote:I'm voting: First: Evilmonkey Second: Seifu Die red scum (please) Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 18:08 Naib wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:38 Naib wrote:I change my vote from Crazie-penguin to L. That post above convinced me. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 18:12 Naib wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 20:03 Naib wrote:My second vote goes to ulszz + Show Spoiler [NatsuTerran] + 43. NatsuTerran Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:33 NatsuTerran wrote:omfg I just opened the thread and I am now > 30 pages behind... I'm really starting to think having this many people is a bad idea T__T Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 23:17 NatsuTerran wrote: This is an obvious shuriken. Just another clue pointing at Ninja4ever. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:58 NatsuTerran wrote:What is up with people voting for both wurm and ghar in the vote blog? The lists are getting so screwed up. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 10:43 NatsuTerran wrote:I really don't think Caller is a mafia suspect. Just because there is stuff involving phones doesn't mean it's a clue. Chuiu just puts it in for the story. The same goes for martial arts clues. Last game Chuiu said he simply likes kicking. Otherwise yeah I like the idea of top suspects voting for one person just so we can see how many of our clues are lining up. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 09:59 NatsuTerran wrote:Heros)Pink omg you are the worst clue interpreter evar!!! However that post does bring attention to the "You can pick death by knife or whatever's in my pocket" Sounds awefully like that Peter Griffin quote that somebody else has as a sig...... Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:00 NatsuTerran wrote:I'm actually starting to get really suspicious of Heros)Pink. Have any of you looked at his previous clue interpretations?? They make me want to cry. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:10 NatsuTerran wrote:Yea which seems very likely to be 03czc or whatever his name is. You saying MTF is mafia because of MTF is an acronym for "move to front" is just plain ridiculous.. Edit: Nevermind just saw MTF's picture,sorry!......be more clear!! Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 01:04 NatsuTerran wrote:I vote Empyrean for reasons stated above. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:31 NatsuTerran wrote:I vote for mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 09:23 NatsuTerran wrote:I vote Ghar I vote Ninja4ever. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 04:31 NatsuTerran wrote:Vote change Ghar changed to bumatlarge Second vote still Ninja4ever. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:52 NatsuTerran wrote:1st vote changed from bumatlarge to Ghar again. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 13:44 NatsuTerran wrote:Vote fusionsdf Vote Useless Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 22:59 NatsuTerran wrote:Vote change from fusionsdf to EvilMonkey Vote change from Useless to Siefu + Show Spoiler [NeaX] + 121. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 18:37 NeaX wrote:I'd like to sign up Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:07 NeaX wrote:I vote araav for mayor Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 09:12 NeaX wrote:I change my vote from Araav to Ace + Show Spoiler [New104] + 68. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:18 New104 wrote:I vote for Ace. He seems to know what he is doing Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:04 New104 wrote:I will vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 11:16 New104 wrote:I will vote for wurm with my first vote Abstain with my second + Show Spoiler [Ninja4ever.] + 82. Ninja4ever. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:34 Ninja4ever. wrote:I had a lot of homework lately so I didn't really follow the game, but apparently i'm very suspect. Someone may explain me the mr.blonde thing ? Why someone said he was me ? Also, i'd say the number of knives is more important than the ability used to kill neax, and the numbers don't relate to me in any way. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 09:25 Ninja4ever. wrote:Townie has a REALLY good organisation this time, and a clever mayor. Really good to see. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:08 Ninja4ever. wrote: What ? I didn't vote against Chezinu, it's him who voted against me. I voted to lynch mandalor just after Ace told us to do so, you can see it there : http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?currentpage=6&topic_id=68352 Edit : but check me anyway so I won't be suspicious anymore. Posted in night7/main_page.122 Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 21:12 Ninja4ever. wrote:I'd like to add that knives aren't ninja's weapons at all. Shurikens, shakens, kusarigama and a lot of others are, but knive definitly isn't. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:25 Ninja4ever. wrote:If ace turns out to be mafia, it would be incredibly funny. =) Too bad he's obviously innocent though, it nearly makes me wish DTS messed up somwehere. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 18:54 Ninja4ever. wrote:Ok, i didn't have time to see the thread since day 2/3. So i'm still very suspect. I saw even plexa suspect me now, while he was defending me at the beginning, I'm quite sad about it. Well, if you find ONE clue pointing to my quote, and not only to my aka, you'll have strong evidence that i'm mafia. But at the moment i don't think you've something. ( I could be wrong though, since I didn't take the time to read all these pages ) Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:43 Ninja4ever. wrote: Yeah, it's a weak defense, but I don't think I have anything else. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:47 Ninja4ever. wrote: I can't blame you, or anyone else, for suspecting me as the clues seem convincing. I just hope some mafia gets killed and happens to be Mr. Blonde so i won't be suspicious anymore. But seriously, the clues seem so damn convincing... I even had to check Chuiu's PM once more to be sure that I didn't misunderstand something... Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:18 Ninja4ever. wrote: All these clues could point to G.s)Naruto. Plus real ninja aren't strong. They're fast and don't make any noise, but strengh is a characteristic of ninjas only in naruto. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:37 Ninja4ever. wrote:Ah, didn't know naruto was innocent. ^^ Yeah, ninja practise ninjustu when they're six years old, but ninjustu doesn't develop strenght. When a ninja fights without arm (aka koppô taijutsu) he uses his ennemi's body against himself, wich doesn't require strenght. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:42 Ninja4ever. wrote: Ok, lynch me then, I don't care about the game that much, but you'll lose a lynch for nothing. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 21 2008 22:01 Ninja4ever. wrote:My english isn't good enough to defend myself like solesteeler did I think. Plus all the clues seem convincing and I don't see how I could anyway. Like I already said, my only hope right now is that the mafia you're relating to me ( I think it's Mr. Blond ) get killed before i'm lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 20:06 Ninja4ever. wrote:sur. I can't blame you because of the proof against me are convincing. So i'll blame you when i'll turn green. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:15 Ninja4ever. wrote:I vote for randombum ! Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 20:33 Ninja4ever. wrote:I didn't followed enough to have serious suspicions, so : I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:32 Ninja4ever. wrote:I'm not abstaining anymore. I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 01:11 Ninja4ever. wrote:First vote : wurm Second vote : abstain + Show Spoiler [OneBlueAugust] + 95. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:25 OneBlueAugust wrote:This may have been clarified earlier, but activity is judged not just by forum posts, right? I've been relatively active in PMs, as I feel that's the only wise way to express my thoughts at the moment, but I haven't posted here yet at all. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 13:56 OneBlueAugust wrote: My Dota buddies. If it becomes necessary, they can back me up. Although I guess I shouldn't have said PMs, as it's been conversations off of TL.net, but it's pretty much the same thing. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:06 OneBlueAugust wrote:Btw, that guy who tried to start another game of mafia isn't playing this time, is he? Cause if so, the whole Eddie storyline could point to him... Trying to wrench leadership away from Chuiu and all - specifically, this quote: "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". If he's not, maybe someone that helped him start that failed game. I didn't really pay attention to it, and I don't want to go read the failed mafia game's thread, so people that know the history of that better might want to think about it and compare it against who's playing this time. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:11 OneBlueAugust wrote:Well, if he had someone helping him run it, or if someone posted a lot last game agreeing that Tracil's way was better, it could point to them. Just a thought. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:13 OneBlueAugust wrote:Also, did anyone make a comment in this thread, insinuating that if someone got elected mayor that the town would enact something similar to martial law? Cause that person could be the one that this quote: "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law" is pointing to. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:22 OneBlueAugust wrote:Seems like a few decent leads on them, then. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:50 OneBlueAugust wrote:Perhaps not, but if there's any useful clues at all in the Day post, I'd think they would be in what the mafia said. The names of the mafia have way too many red herrings in them to be useful at this point, in my opinion. I guess since a huge percentage of the names in the Day post have to do with Quentin Tarantino movies, it would be wise to check up on any references to him in people's names, posts, or signatures... Or even anagrams of Tarantino etc. But I still think the information that can be used by the town will only come out of the quotes. And yes, I do realize that my name could tie me to Mr. Blue. However, as Shallow[Bay] showed, following the "clue" of the reservoir dogs names fingers tons of people, which is why I think it's a red herring. If the names have any meaning at all, it's a deeper on, such as the tie-in to one director or type of movie. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:11 OneBlueAugust wrote:I don't think it's an intentional red herring. I just think it has a deeper meaning. People are looking for usernames with colors in them, or usernames in a certain color, while I think the focus should be looking for someone that is related to the overall arch of the storyline. However, I may be overthinking it... One other thing before bed. The quote I mentioned previously: "We don't like the way you're running things, it's time for a change" has a similar connotation to MidnightGladius's signature, which reads: It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change. I still think if that's pointing to anyone, it would be pointing to someone that was involved in the other failed mafia game, but it's a similarity that should be pointed out. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:17 OneBlueAugust wrote:Just so the mods know, I'm not spamming this thread. I'm just the type of person that always has one more thought after I hit the post button, and I don't think editing in a mafia game should be allowed. Anyway, the reason I think the quotes I mentioned are probably clues is because they stand out from the rest of the storyline. Perhaps I see this dichotomy because I'm a writer, but the dialogue seems very stilted and unnatural, as if it was inserted into the story, instead of being written in along with everything else. If that's the case, then it was probably put in after a general outline of the day post had been fleshed out. The only thing that would be added at that point are the clues, which is why I feel that the dialogue contains the relevant information. This theory is further supported by the fact that some of the dialogue is double-punctuated (IE: a quote ending with an exclamation, followed by an extraneous period). Perhaps Chuiu and Dapperdan just don't pay much attention to their grammar rules, but the other possible explanation for that is that the sentence was inserted in, and they forgot to delete the extra period. Posted in night7/main_page.086 Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:58 OneBlueAugust wrote:Eh, same line of thought and all. I was already spamming, and I figured adding another addition would be too much overkill. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:26 OneBlueAugust wrote:Bastards... The only reason I can think of that I would be targetted is that I was onto something with my clue interpretations. Good luck town. + Show Spoiler [Pangolin] + 87. Pangolin Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:56 Pangolin wrote:Hopefully rule 3. "You must vote" will help with the inactivity. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 12:15 Pangolin wrote: I think they said that the game was going to start on Sunday. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:26 Pangolin wrote: Irish mafia eh? All we need now is for it to be set in Boston and we can recreate The Departed. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 15:58 Pangolin wrote:All of the Mobsters names in the clue section can be linked to a Quentin Tarantino movie. The only exception is, fittingly, Enigma. At this moment I don't really see how this will help to link to specific people but it was the first thing that I noticed. edit: I thought I might as well organize the names. Reservoir dogs: Eddie, Joe, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Pink, and Mr. Blue were in the movie and Mr. Black and Mr. Red would have fit. Pulp Fiction: The Wolf (Harvey Keitel is so badass) Kill Bill: Sidewinder, Taipan, and King Brown Snake. I don't actually know if all of these names were used in Kill Bill but I remember that they were all named after snakes. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:06 Pangolin wrote: So if we are not choosing the mayor based on their strategy, then how do you suggest we choose the mayor? Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:22 Pangolin wrote:I would like to say that I do not find Ghar suspicious. The Day 1 post says that there were eight people in the way of dapperdan's escape. To me that implys 8 people between him and the door, not being surrounded as Ghar's sig is about. aZnvaLiaNce's original line of reasoning: 8 people, 8 cardinal directions, must be surrounded, seems like quite a stretch to me. Adding to this is the fact that aZnvaLiaNce's posts in general have seemed much less logical and well thought out when compared to Ghar's posts. Basically what I am saying is. "Eight people in his way, chances weren't good." =/= "All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:56 Pangolin wrote:I can see where he's coming from though. It would be helpful to have a detective mayor since it solves the problem with detectives that they have to choose whether to reveal their info and face the mobs wrath or simply hoard info without a way to give it to the average townie. The only problem I have is that if he doesn't win, then he just hurt the town by announcing his role. This makes the whole move somewhat selfish. I am personally hoping now that Ghar becomes the mayor and Empyrean becomes the Pardoner, because then Empyrean will still be protected by bodyguards and Ghar can enact his plan to have a scum-free government. This is of course assuming Empyrean is not lying... Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:23 Pangolin wrote:I don't know if it really means anything one way or the other, but I would like to point out that brown king snakes are also from Australia. edit: I guess I didn't notice the last sentence of the previous post. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:46 Pangolin wrote:Well the way you(Klive5ive) tell it is certainly more convincing then aznvaliance's. I still think it would be strange for a mafia candidate to advocate immediate role confirmation for himself after election, and also to give townies what seems like a solid townie role strategy. However, it is also true that any mayor could still use this strategy, even though Ace is the only other candidate that seems ready to embrace it. I actually have a question for Ghar about his idea. How do you plan to have only one detective check the mayor's identity on the first day? Wouldn't having every detective check the mayor's role the first day effectively use half of the usable role checks immediately? I don't see how there can be any coordination until there is confirmation of everyone being a non-mafioso. edit: to somuchbetter I believe the idea is for the detectives to role check the mayor before pming him. Thus if he is mafia then they would not pm him at all and would instead expose him to the town. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:07 Pangolin wrote:So when do the polls close? If it is 24 hours from the day 1 post then it will be 3-4 hours from now. Has Chuiu mentioned a time? Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:51 Pangolin wrote:Well whoever is elected mayor must lynch somebody as his first act. I think that this is why people are analyzing day 1 clues, so that they can help whoever becomes mayor choose. Maybe it would be a good idea for mayoral candidates to discuss who they are planning to use their insta-lynch on. But then again it may be better for it to be a secret until it happens. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:53 Pangolin wrote:If he is able to tell us why he is pardoning somebody and the town agrees I don't see why we shouldn't allow him to pardon people, the same as any pardoner. Are we waiting for most people to vote before closing polls or is there some kind of time limit? Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:05 Pangolin wrote: Well I just reread it and now I understand. Before I thought that "A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that" meant that the polls would be closed yesterday. Now I remember the mayor is announced in the night. Thanks for helping me clear that up. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:16 Pangolin wrote: Yes I think you need to reread some posts because not only did Ace show that it wasn't a hole, Kau (the one who posted the "flaw") admitted it wasn't actually a flaw. The reason being that detectives are going to check if the mayor is mafia anyways. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 03:20 Pangolin wrote:Heh Empyrean really should have considered the mafia's new roles before enacting his plan. Either way they screw him. If elected the saboteur ruins his detective ability and if not elected and protected by medics he, and all the medics, get blown to pieces by a suicide bomber. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:11 Pangolin wrote: As an extension of this the detectives would not have to reveal themselves to reveal Empyrean because they would just tell Ace who would then tell the townies. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:37 Pangolin wrote:Yeah seriously any detective who is able to get a mafia mayor lynched, even at the expense of his own life, is basically the hero of the game. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:40 Pangolin wrote: HAHA I LOVE IT!! A townie trick to expose (possible) mobsters. I was wondering why your campaign was so half-assed, now it makes complete sense. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:49 Pangolin wrote: Well all of the detectives are supposed to rolecheck the mayor and send the mayor a pm. Even though this does waste some detective abilities it also fixes your problem. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:51 Pangolin wrote: "You may use up to six abilities from other roles in the game however you are restricted to the very same rules that apply to them when you use them." I assume the bolded part means # per game restrictions Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:06 Pangolin wrote:Haha I would be so mad if I was inc. The mad hatter role seemed so much fun and he didn't even get to plant any bombs. Oh well, I guess he should have been active and not wasted his special blueness. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 20:24 Pangolin wrote: How is it that you are so familiar with the troubles of being a mobster? Were you mafia last game or something? Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:25 Pangolin wrote:One of the detectives skills is to check how many mafia voted for a certain person who was lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:24 Pangolin wrote:Good job ace. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:27 Pangolin wrote:Where's DapperDan? Shouldn't he be able to answer people's questions? Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:41 Pangolin wrote:I decided to analyze the 7 people who voted for Ghar in the last lynch. Even though 1/7 is slightly worse odds then 19/103 it is still easier to examine a smaller sample I will put them in order of my suspicion. 1. ShadowDrgn: One of the best fits for Mr. Blonde, he comes from nowhere like a shadow and swoops like a dragon. Seems to be somewhat active but I don’t remember anything particularly helpful that he said. His public profile doesn’t really say anything that I could link to a clue. 2. useLess: Could possibly be sidewinder, although the connections are admittedly kinda weak. Sidewinder has been very useless so far for the mafia, he got tossed on the first night and kicked aside the second night. He is from the USA and so is the Sidewinder snake. Also Sidewinder may have been connected to the sticky goo that was on the ground. UseLess’ quote says that his favorite book is organic chemistry so that could possibly connect to the sticky goo. I don’t remember seeing him post but I haven’t gone back and checked everything yet. 3-5. Imderek, evilmonkey, and Trancestorm all haven’t posted at all since the game started as far as I can tell. I hit the all button and used the search function but it wasn’t really all posts so I’m not sure if they have posted more recently. 6. AznValiance: No clues. His posts have varied in usefulness but he seems to be genuinely trying to help the town. 7. Alventenie: No clues. Has posted some very useful clue analysis and various other mafia related information. He has helped the town from what I have seen. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:33 Pangolin wrote: Personally I don't really buy zeks as Mr. Blonde. He was the one with the spiderman quote right? Well that may work for day 2 but day 1 it said "as if coming from nowhere". It is still possible that it is zeks, but I find it much more likely to be Ninja4ever or you. Posted in night7/main_page.131 Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:09 Pangolin wrote:Is there a rule against sabotaging the same person twice? Otherwise, why wouldn't they just sabotage ace again to stop the double lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 14:48 Pangolin wrote: Umm plastic is made from petroleum, and glass is made from sand so... Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:49 Pangolin wrote: Well once mobsters like Mandalor and (allegedly) you stop making mistakes and outing yourselves to Ace it will be up to townies to dig up the clues for the detectives to investigate. Using the fact that Ace has a working plan is hardly a reason to disobey his orders. Especially since nothing is stopping you from digging up clues or accusing people based on strange actions just as you would in any other mafia game. Ace only has these foolproof ways to find mafia at the moment so he might as well take them. Eventually I assume he will need good clue interpretations. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:25 Pangolin wrote:Hmm let's see wurm... He seems to like to use smilies a lot, could be Mr. Brown. Wurms are kind of like snakes, now where was it that I heard snakes mentioned? He knows where his towel is, possibly to mop up a "gooey substance". He was born in 1988, the year of the dragon. Dragons swoop like Mr. Blonde. Also those born in the year of the dragon are known to be vigorous, strong, and self-assured but also tyrannical and violent so he could be a suspect as the mafia leader. He's from the Philippines so umm... OK I can't think of anymore clues but the point is that if you feel bored by Ace's plan you can just look for random clues on people like this. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 19:30 Pangolin wrote:While I agree that there isn't really much evidence against Wurm (all of my clues were obviously not serious), I think that if there is a mafia medic then that problem needs to be taken care of. Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 17:53 Pangolin wrote:Cool our mayor is now a siege tank. Blow those mafia to pieces Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:47 Pangolin wrote: Of course asking chuiu for someone's role would reveal mafia as their role. Otherwise what would be the point of having the power? It would be sort of pointless for a detective to have a power that could only discover blues but not distinguish between mafia and town. Mafia is a role, just like townie is a role. I don't understand why you would think otherwise. edit: typo Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:50 Pangolin wrote:You'd have to be pretty paranoid not to trust Ace at this point. Posted in night7/main_page.146 Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:02 Pangolin wrote:I'm pretty sure Max is mafia because he could be named after Max Cherry from Jackie Brown. (Tarantino movie) Edit: also I think that this is the first appearance of California Mountain Snake Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:21 Pangolin wrote:I'm not sure I understand the bugz singing connection. Is it because he has a Jimi Hendrix quote or because bugs bunny occasionally sang or what? Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:30 Pangolin wrote:Hmm well the Second night sounded like an EMP but this one he just took out batteries didn't he? You don't need an Electromagnetic Pulse to take out batteries. I think it might be Energies, since he is also from Australia like the Taipan Snake. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:41 Pangolin wrote:Why isn't Queasy under more suspicion of being Mafia? I was just taking a quick glance at the list of players and his name fits Sidewinder perfectly. Sidewinder was sickly looking, then hungover, and caused someone to throw up. All of which have to do with being Queasy. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:50 Pangolin wrote:Once again, Max DOES fit the mafia code names. All of the code names are from Quentin Tarantino movies and Max was a character in Jackie Brown. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:58 Pangolin wrote:Hmm you may have a point. All of the other code names were bad characters in the movies (working against the law in some way or another). Max, on the other hand, was a good guy. I think he was a bail bondsman. Anyway, I guess just because he has a Tarantino name doesn't necessarily mean he was mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:06 Pangolin wrote:So are we going to double lynch or not? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:29 Pangolin wrote: It had nothing to do with snakes or any clues at all. It was some problem where there were to many medics reporting and somehow wurm was suspected to be the fake mafia medic. I think it was because he refused to follow Aces plans, or failed some test ace had to see if he was telling the truth or something. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:51 Pangolin wrote:I don't think there were any clues pointing to mandalor. At least none that were found before he was discovered as mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 10:53 Pangolin wrote:Well I think that this is pretty clear evidence against Ninja4ever. + Show Spoiler + J/K very funny chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:37 Pangolin wrote:So Showtime! didn't have a special role? Pretty good trick if you ask me. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 18:02 Pangolin wrote:Queasy was pretty a pretty obvious link to sidewinder. This adds to my suspicion of energies and Ninja4ever because the only thing that had me doubting them was that their links to clues were too obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 07:48 Pangolin wrote: Well I don't know what you just said but I believe araav was checked by a DT and confirmed innocent. Edit: Are you saying we should do this alphabetically? That is not only a bad strategy but it is not very fun either. To each his own I suppose... Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 15:17 Pangolin wrote: Showtime's comments in the thread about wasting role checks as well as scorch's comment a couple pages back saying that Showtime! (who was proven innocent and was in the IRC channel) sent him a PM calling araav a stupid townie. Also the fact that it would be pretty necessary to check him after the events described and there was no call to lynch/vigilante hit after the IRC incident settled. I guess Ace could probably confirm or deny this. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:31 Pangolin wrote:I vote for Ghar because he has a good opening plan. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:52 Pangolin wrote:I would like to change my vote from Ghar to Ace. The reason is that it now looks as if Ace has a better chance of winning then Ghar and I don't think empyrean is as good of a choice as either of them. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 18:59 Pangolin wrote:I vote Ninja4ever for knives and appearing from nowhere Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:54 Pangolin wrote:I would like to change my vote to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:05 Pangolin wrote:I vote Ghar (for now) Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 08:02 Pangolin wrote:My first vote remains as Ghar. My second vote is for Ninja4ever Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:42 Pangolin wrote:I change my second vote to bumatlarge my first vote is still for ghar Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 12:39 Pangolin wrote:I abstain until for now Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 06:10 Pangolin wrote:I change my vote from abstaining to voting for Energies + Show Spoiler [Puosu] + 16. Puosu Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:15 Puosu wrote:Sign me! thaaank juu edit: oh I'm #20! Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:32 Puosu wrote:whaaat You don't have me on your player list anymore? I did confirm in the blog post, my post is number 96.. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:22 Puosu wrote:I'm currently thinking about voting for Empyrean, its true that a Detective Mayor would be just imba good. Obviously still thinking and taking a look at the other candidates. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:31 Puosu wrote:After further inspection I'm going to vote for Ghar He really seems to be the safest bet right now. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:57 Puosu wrote: That would be awesome, anyone willing to create a channel for us? Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 23:10 Puosu wrote:[-b-]Not going to use my vote this round Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:59 Puosu wrote:[-b-]I vote Wurm and abstain my second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 12:56 Puosu wrote:I vote for useLess Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 22:46 Puosu wrote:I vote for L and [-b-]Ulszz + Show Spoiler [Queasy] + 86. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:29 Queasy wrote:My Clue Analysis: Maybe Useless? Useless is also from the US, same as the Sidewinder snake. Kind of silly and a stretch, but omfghi2u2? Thought he doesn't seem to be from Australia... That's all I got for now. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:43 Queasy wrote:I'm just throwing possible clue interpretations out there. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:39 Queasy wrote:Just jealous he isn't voting for you. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:49 Queasy wrote:If he got any roles it could be bad. Would you just reassign them Chuiu? Or would the town just be down 2 townies? Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:45 Queasy wrote:Guys, he can't really be sure of who is Mafia. Who else could he hit? It's all stabs in the dark. Sucks that it was a blue, but at least it wasn't a Vigi or DT. MH's are expendable, I think. Stay positive. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:48 Queasy wrote:Why can't you post your choices out in the open? Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:51 Queasy wrote: But we dont' know the mafia are. You could be PM'ing Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.071 Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:20 Queasy wrote:What do you mean? Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:21 Queasy wrote:In response to Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:25 Queasy wrote:Pink and Toast are either just stupid, genuine and stupid, or Mafia. Ignore them for now, but they should be under suspect. Posted in night7/main_page.086 Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:47 Queasy wrote:Dammit :/ Yogurt shouldn't have so hastily thrown out a bomb. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:53 Queasy wrote:We still have all our vigilantes though. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:16 Queasy wrote:I vote for Fusion Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 08:42 Queasy wrote:I change my vote from Fusion to Ace. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:56 Queasy wrote:I changed my vote to Ace on the pure notion that I just didn't want Empyrean in office. Since it looks like Empyrean is safely out of the running, I wish to change my vote from Ace to Randombum. + Show Spoiler [Romance_us] + 39. Romance_us Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:38 Romance_us wrote:Sorry for my inactivity guys. I've had the flu, but I'm feeling better now. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:14 Romance_us wrote:Haha. Nice work Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:28 Romance_us wrote: No he's not. Ugh. Sucks to lose two detectives in one night, but as mentioned in the above OP, we have full vigilante power, which means up to four mafia kills per day, and with double lynches,we could technically kill up to 6 mafia per day/night cycle. Plexa is doing a great job, as shown (his clues were spot on), and should be given more attention. Keep up the good work. We still have an extremely good chance of winning. Lots of references to Energies and suresh0t, but perhaps too obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.200 Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:42 Romance_us wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 08:05 Romance_us wrote:I retract my vote for Ghar and will now vote for Mandalor instead. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 05:21 Romance_us wrote:My first vote is for Ghar I abstain as of now on my second. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 11:19 Romance_us wrote:I change my second vote for abstain to bumatlarge. My first vote will remain Ghar. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 03:38 Romance_us wrote:I vote for Dr.Dragoon + Show Spoiler [RowdierBob] + 101. RowdierBob Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 18:44 RowdierBob wrote:Add me please! Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:51 RowdierBob wrote:VOTE 1 RANDOMBUM! Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:36 RowdierBob wrote:What up homies. I'm a townie too, can't really prove it (am I allowed to post the PM Chuiu sent me?), but you'll have to trust me! Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 20:43 RowdierBob wrote:I have no idea what's going on. When do we vote for lynching / get more Mafia clues? Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 15:08 RowdierBob wrote:So it has taken all this time to kill 16 people? This game is gonna last months -_____- Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:48 RowdierBob wrote:I vote for araav. + Show Spoiler [RtS)Night[Mare] + 34. RtS)Night[Mare Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 14:09 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:chuiu isnt this a bit much of people? Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:the games hasnt even started and you're already pointing fingers. cmon. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 04:09 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i hope this game doesnt get out of hand Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:39 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:he's mafia Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 00:57 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Chances that Empyrean is Mafioso again are slim. I think we should get him to a safe position either pardoner or mayor, as DT being invincible from night hits would absolutely be good for town. On the other hand, Ace has a pretty good plan for the game. We should vote him. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:11 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: 2/13 is not slim? its 15% -_-; pretty low for me Voting list: + Show Spoiler + Last Romantic - 1 ------------- aZnvaLiaNce SMB - 1 ---- Last Romantic Randombum - 9 --------- Dr. Dragoon Alethios g.s)naruto sadir fantacist bockit bwdero ninja4ever bugz|tooni| fusionsdf - 3 -------- plexa zbir kau Snubvob - 4 ------- LTT joxxor wurm hollander ghar - 8 ----- Falcynn ace ahrara_ pangolin grandim mandalor amber[light] rpf Araav - 9 ----- Meta sonuvbob rowdierbob klive5ive dark.canival naib neax energies qrs plexa - 1 ----- siefu empyrean - 9 -------- caller eti307 showtime! mtf bloodyc0bber RtS)NightMare Natsuterran heros)pink solesteer ace -3 --- ghar spoinka hittiegods 47/130 votes accounted for Right now, we should start focusing on strong candidtates: that would be: Randombum - 9 votes Ghar - 8 votes Araav- 9 votes Empyrean - 9 votes the rest of the candidates are behind on the voting count and i dont think they have a real chance of winning the mayorship. Instead i think we should focus on what candidates we want to have as mayor/pardoner, and think wisely. edit: updated voting count Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:39 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:ban Vharox Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:42 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:guys vote for Empyrean! we need him with bodyguard protection so it'd be safer for him to point out the findings! Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:anyway, if we get the mayor to be townie, detectives can still pm him their findings. Oh well. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:when is the night of the first day? Posted in night7/main_page.053 Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:08 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i really think that empyrean isnt mafia. Sadly, if he ends non-pardoner or mayor, meds are taking a big risk at protecting him, due to suicide bomber. ;(. Empyrean played a GG last game, i think he should get pardonership because mayorship is probably taken by ace by now. Another bad point is that saboteur would probably block empyrean's role . Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:53 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:guys you should really drop it on Ace. Its pretty hard to hit a mafia on 1st lynch, with very lousy clues and everyone alive. It was a pity he fragged a special role but w/e. We still have lots of blues. Not something to be overly reactive about. Wait and see how the game develops Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 07:05 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:ok sherlok, tell us a different strategy to win. Or what are you proposing? random hits? lmao Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 16:13 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:chuiu needs to make day post asap ! Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:09 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:ghar is pretty much GG. Is there any other strong candidate for a double lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:11 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:ouch >.< Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:47 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Any lead i could find on Eddie: he seems to be very lucky, but probably skilled as well. It's a weak lead yet though. Mr Blue: Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Seems to me that mayor has great power. Need to link a few more clues to him though. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 09:48 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Ace, you've checked L findings yet? thats pretty incriminating Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 09:53 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Current votecount: Dr. Dragoon - 1 sureshot - 1 ninja4ever - 1 lostyourskills - 2 hittegods - 1 ghar- 14 str- 1 nemy -1 kuja900- 1 ----------------------------------- 23/123 votes Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:33 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:are we lynching heros)pink or french_toast over the ghar clue? NO WAY? Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:12 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:We still have vigis and a jack! Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:withdrawing vote from ghar and targeting mandalor~ Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 06:44 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: that is if a vigi doesnt frag him in the night Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:53 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:we dont need morons to spice things up Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:31 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:how can mafia quickly dispatch 6 bodyguards please? Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:07 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:I like the mayor we have! This game is completly different from having no organization to total mafia ownage. | ||
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34. RtS)Night[Mare Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:38 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Ace, dont make a mistake, there are 2 way stronger candidates to divide the votes; Ghar which should be your #1 (if he doesnt get killed by a vigi) and ShadowDragn, due to Plexa's reasoning. Maybe you should let wurm live when we have 2 more likely mafia. Level-headed yo! Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:32 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: count me too. This is a thread to play the game not to spam mercilessly, please keep it to objective points, i hate too to go through a bunch of spam post that add no content and just make dificult to read. BTW, I dont think winning IS boring Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:35 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Then analyse clues, thats the hard part Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 22:57 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: i think you got it wrong and you're starting from the wrong direction. "Mafia" is a role, "Towny" is a role, "Vigilante" is a role. to the second edited text, how do you know the list will end up like that, what if it ends more like 7/20 | 2/29? (btw the numbers are flawed, it should be 50%/50% not 35%/75%. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 11:07 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:wating for day 3! Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:12 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i guess ill just wait a reply from Ace to take the course of action. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: just for further reference, ghar became REALLY quiet after day 2 clues pointing at him. edit: Taipan Snake likes to mess with electronics, as he was present in the batteries all over the floor, and the night before he had a jamming device. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:29 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Might want to dig in a bit more but why i think he fits Taipan Snake. Taipan Snake like to mess with electronics. Ghosts are electronic specialists (lockdown). So might go that way... The following suspects have a ghost as icon. edit: G.s)Naruto Bugz|TOon| Edit 2: str No units = No power <-- i think this is weaker than ghost ones. Energies Hmm, the nick? Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:49 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: ninja esque, it'd be easier to link to ninja4ever no? hmm just for further reference pointing to Ghar = pic shows a decapitated head being grabbed by the hair, i think that's quite brutalish Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:54 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:same as g.s)naruto, anyway, it's still worth investigating. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:55 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:just looked in wikipedia for what taipan snake is; a kind of australian snake. Can anybody link me to the aussies profile list? Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:01 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Ace, we now have only 3 DT checks for votes, i hope you take that in mind Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:02 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Ok, out of the suspect list i labeled, only Energies is Aussie. Posted in night7/main_page.154 Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:18 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i'd vote to use rolecheck on wurm. If he is mafioso, he dies, medic problem solved, if not, it brings you one step closer to solve it. Actually i REALLY think we should drop it on wurm. To me he's innocent. I'd rather go for Ghar which is more of a SURE HIT that will drop mafia killing power. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:38 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:go double lynch wurm and ghar then Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:54 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:shit showtime please drop it. Dr. Dragoon incident last game was funny, but you're annoying. Ace, with the double lynch, arent you messing a bit the DT list to check up on mafia, according to the original plan? Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:54 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Seriously, can we ban a player fromt he game chuiu, if the masses agree? Poll: Ban Showtime! ? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No edit: i bet the next post after is will be that of the attention whore. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 15:12 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:time to see the truth Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 07:46 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:yeah ace we're not supposed to get some miss-lycnhes and throw the game away. Your plan sounded cool and you've got the power to organize dt and vigi kills, so lets keep it up Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:39 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:you really had a mafioso tag on you Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:16 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i have a rather stronger feeling towards energy than str, as his nick refers to energy and is from australia = taipan snake Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:31 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:we screw up once and the mayor leaves? rofl? Posted in night7/main_page.177 Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:24 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:randombum is the one that has bodyguard protection, so i think he would be good for this Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 22:23 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:it needs a faster pace. Too bad chuiu is sick Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 13:44 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:his country is fake, he's from romania Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 06:04 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:dead people should not rather post. i think chuiu's getting really pissed off Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 14:19 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:im going with plexas rather than scorch's. His analysis is way more detailed and usually has a pretty good aim at hitting mafias Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 14:06 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:im gonna vote Energies for lynching, brb Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 01:27 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:this game is going to dieee Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 05:17 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i think next game should be invite only by people who were active Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:03 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:trancestorm is doomed. I think he's townie. but im not great at clues so w/e. LETS BURN HIM AT THE STAKE Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:04 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:01 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i think the town is screwed again. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 11:35 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:lets see how it turns out. i like more vanilla townie than watered down roles ;\ Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:04 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:so far, 4 mafiosos out of 22? against 132486 townies? hahaha Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:05 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:nvm, 5 mafiosos vs 30 townies. hmm we need to kill more mafiosos if we want to win. Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 06:09 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:may i ask why am i getting acused of mafioso? Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:57 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:lift me up lift me up higher now im up Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:20 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:im a lamb who votes by request. lets see who dies tonight Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:where is the list of confirmed innocents Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:35 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Ok, joe is a supportive character. Friends are supposed to be supportive right? + Show Spoiler + a friend with weed is a friend indeed.. weak link but still.... Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:33 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:ace cannot declare double lynch today? Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 04:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Please strenghten your points agains me and after we lynch L + Ulszz, suspect me again, otherwise im confirmed innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 00:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Scorch's really on my ass haha. There's nothing to do until next day though. No voting on the night. Posted in night7/main_page.247 Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:29 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: sidewinder cant be the one needing reminding, as mr blue is the newb. :S and we already tied Mr. Blue to Ulzzz Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 09:19 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: me too. im confident ulzzz will turn red and set us both free. besides, i trust in plexa too much now, i think he's right. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 06:14 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:we need day asap Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:05 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: wtf does that mean Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 03:46 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i'd rather not lose plexa, send more medics to him ;( Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:50 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:6/7 kills. Im pretty sure plexa was saved Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 05:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: DECIEVING POST, dont try to protect your fellow mafia! for Eddie: LostYourSkills is the perfect match. "skill is when luck becomes an habit". <- his quote. if eddie started being lucky but now is skilled... ding ding ding Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:12 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:L is mafia, i think he's a pretty strong candidate Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 09:04 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: because there are no blues left t.t Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 13:57 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:wow, night is going to arrive really fast ! Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 09:05 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Most mafia have voted for Randombum hmm... oh btw, i cant find the post but from the ghar list i think it was 1/7~ 5 of them are already dead, so its down to nemy and me. Let me find the post Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 09:18 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:CONFIRMED INNOCENTS: 45-smurfingchobo 49-GranDim 54-MTF 94-unsoundlogic 127-L 130-rpf Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 09:20 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:So we need to link one of us to a clue. Any lead on who of that list might have some dirt on them? (besides me being mr pink) Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 05:17 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:We should lynch Randombum and LostYourSkills. If you look in the mafia voting paterns, MOST mafiosos have voted for Randombum, and LostYourSkills quote matches eddie's evolution. began being lucky and turned to be skilled in the end. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 09:58 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: how do you know randombum didnt try to get the mayoral position into his favor? please take a look at ALL mafia voting paterns, including plexa's top suspects, they all voted for Randombum. Coincidence? I dont think so, i feel it is worth investigating. Randombum hasnt pardoned anyone because he's been inactive in this mafia game and/or pardoning a mafia would surely lead into his lynch. Mafia's best chance at winning is staying alive as much as possible. btw how am i drawing suspicion to myself? We've gotten stronger clues on other mafia but since lostyourskills has been ignored since the begining of the game in favor of stronger clues... Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 28 2008 07:45 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Well, since randombum is out of suspicioun how about checking LoStYoUrSkiLLs? do you guys have a stronger candidate for Eddie? Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:58 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:I vote for Empyrean EDITED! Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 01:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:17 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:I vote for Ghar. Pretty strong clue. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 08:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Im withdrawing vote from ghar and voting for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:09 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:I vote Ghar (suspect #2( Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 08:20 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i use my second vote to get rid of [annoying bastard]Showtime[/annoying bastard]. oh shit, there is not html for that Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 14:07 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i vote for energies Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 01:16 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i change my vote from energies to abstain Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:01 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i vote: 1 - Siefu 2 - Evilmonkey[ Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 11:34 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:Siefu - 33 evilmonkey - 29 Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 04:41 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 04:02 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i withdraw my vote from L and vote for Crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 07:35 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:i vote for L and ulszzz + Show Spoiler [Scorch] + 91. Scorch Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:22 Scorch wrote:rules question: if the mad hatter removes a bomb from a target, does he get the bomb back, or does he just destroy it? when do we start? i hope i don't become vanilla townie. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 18:40 Scorch wrote: people were free to edit last game, but editing may look suspicious depending on the timestamp and circumstances. you can claim to have any role you want, but nobody needs to believe you. saying you have a certain role might cast doubt on you and lead people to watch you closely. oh, and you'd better not say you are mafia Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:22 Scorch wrote:ya, Chuiu has some serious work ahead of him. is there an assistant? or two? or three? Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:48 Scorch wrote:ehmmm... i'm against a minimum post limit Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 15 2008 18:46 Scorch wrote:i don't wanna be a nuisance, but when are we starting? regarding dapperdan's suggestion to do the voting in separate blogs where it is forbidden to post anything else: i'm against this. that would make it too easy for people to just bandwagon without giving a reason for their vote. it might work better with fewer people playing, but it's too easy to lay low in such a huge game. i know that the players are responsible for detecting burrowed lurkers, but it just might not work at a scale of 130+ players. please implement the voting method of writing ##vote XXX in this thread instead, where voters are encouraged to lay down their thoughts as to why they vote the way they do. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 00:57 Scorch wrote: i doubt that works well either, falcynn. people would then have to cross-check between multiple threads to find a certain player's thoughts on his vote. furthermore, publishing one's reasons will often provoke a discussion, which would have to take place in a different thread. it's also uncomfortable to quote from another thread. i don't think votes are much harder to track if they are placed in this thread in the ##vote format, which should be searchable quite easily. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 22:05 Scorch wrote: chuiu said "tomorrow evening" (US time?), which should be in about 12 hours if i didn't screw up with those time zones. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 18:54 Scorch wrote:Damn, I had hoped to be able to cast my vote for mayor before i leave for Italy (No, i'm not mafia...yet ) for 2-3 days. Don't you guys lynch innocent people during my absence! Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:42 Scorch wrote:Whew! I just (superficially) caught up with 60 pages worth of Teamliquid Mafia, if the bad guys slay me tonight I'm gonna be pissed. You guys seriously talk too much I'd like to say that I'm satisfied with Ace as our Mayor. Lynching an inactive player was certainly not a completely wrong decision. The fact that it hit a Mad Hatter is, well, unpleasant, but Ace had obviously no way of knowing which role the target had. I also like Ace's strategic approach to the game, which was completely missing in the first game. It appears the efforts to build up a resistance group of Bodyguards are working out, and also the Detectives are joining in. I have a question though: what hinders a Mafia from claiming to be a Detective who has found Ace to be a Towny, and contacting him to infiltrate / gain access to the resistance group? The fraud would only leak out if ALL other "real" Detectives are in contact with Ace too. There would then be five Detectives, one of which is an impostor. But who? Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:46 Scorch wrote:Even in case you don't trust Ace, vanilla townies should send a "Hi, I'm a plain towny" PM to him. It can be considered a defensive measure. Mafia aren't interested too much in plain townies, but primarily they want to slay blue ones. Telling the mafia that you are green makes you a low priority target. This isn't to say that blue townies should lie and claim to be green of course. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:57 Scorch wrote: Detectives ARE able to check Ace already. There's no timing restriction in the OP: The fact that no Detective has yet stood up yet claiming to have found Ace a mafia member indicates that, in fact, Ace is townie. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:03 Scorch wrote: I didn't say it is a proof, just an indication. If i was a Detective, I'd warn the public as soon as possible to prevent blues from reporting to Ace. So don't worry too much. It's been some time already, but feel free to wait a bit longer if you want. Don't forget that Ace could simply be lying about having been roleblocked. I don't think so though. I can't quickly think of a scenario where Ace could profit from this lie if he was mafia. And I'm sure he knows that townies shouldn't lie either. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:51 Scorch wrote: May I remind you two that there is no safe way of revealing one's role? People can just lie without easily being noticed, you know? Ace's strategy is forcing mafia to do just that: lie. Town is far from winning. It's just one step in building up information and spotting contratictions to hopefully catch a couple of mafia in the end. How can you come to the conclusion that this strategy is cheap? Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:16 Scorch wrote:if you don't want to play with a strategy (revealing roles to the mayor), but not without a strategy (random) either, then i don't think this is a game for you. if you have a plan you deem fun and promising, please enlighten us. just because we are carrying out a certain plan at the moment, that doesn't mean we can't try a different approach at the same time. edit: man, i'm writing too slowly. this was directed at HeRoS)Pink. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:25 Scorch wrote: It's far easier to rant than to make a constructive suggestion. Same goes for Showtime!. You guys may not necessarily be mafia, but you certainly don't bring us closer to victory either. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 19:19 Scorch wrote:Some nice clues were unearthed while I was asleep. They are all quite obscure and far-fetched though, so I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. Let's wait for sunrise (any estimation when that will be?), then we'll have much more information to work with. If then a second clue points to a certain player, that yields much harder evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:55 Scorch wrote:ok, here come my suspicions, based on the latest clues: ____________________________________________ Hittegods Quote : This street violence, pure self defiance a considerable portion of the day post deals with a street brawl. i consider this quite a solid connection to Hittegods. ___ HotZhot Quote : I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever since he likes the dark, he might be mr. blonde: coming out of nowhere, and turning off the light to drop onto Mynock. ___ Lysithea Quote : "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali this too could be a reference to the drop attack on Mynock from the ceiling. ___ ~OpZ~ Quote : Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex another one, probably a bit more solid than lysithea's. ___ decafchicken Quote : how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy? "...Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot." well, a weak one. ___ AmorVincitOmnia Quote : brown skin woman you a queen he could be Mr. Brown or King Brown Snake. ___ d.arkive Quote : "Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing because Mynock went to get something from the fridge. notice that this could also cast suspicion on SpiritOfTheTuna. ___ Ghar Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time Yogurt and OneBlueAugust are intercepted by 4 men, one for every direction mentioned in Ghar's quote. plus the two townies aren't afraid to take on a whole army, another fitting reference to this signature. ___ ShadowDrgn he could be Mr. Blonde based on his name: coming out of the shadow, and doing a flying attack like a dragon. someone else mentioned this already. ___ L Quote : :D he could have placed the smilie in exchange for the shotgun. the smilie clue is quite bizarre already, and it probably wouldn't have been given if it was possible to find an easier clue to a certain mafia. now think about what clues you would give towards L, who has a one-letter name and a meaningless signature. _________________________________________________ for me, the strongest suspicion goes, in order, towards: 1. Hittegods 2. Ghar 3. L i will therefore cast my vote to lynch Hittegods in the voting thread. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 21:56 Scorch wrote:i like your character analysis, Plexa. it shows you really put thought into this. but i don't know if this works out. Chuiu would have to have designed almost complete character profiles (one for each mafia) before the start of the game. while this might be possible, i think it is too much work even for our crazy workhorse Chuiu. plus, he wouldn't easily be able to reflect a mafia's posting/acting behaviour during the game, and everything would screw up when a mafia changes his signature. doing clues more or less spontaneously on a day-per-day basis yields much more flexibility. i'm not sure if a 1:1 mapping of names in clues to mafia members exists. my doubt is being supported by xDark.Carnivalx's list of mafia names containing 17 names of mafias mentioned in the clues so far, whereas we have 20 mafias playing the game. my list of possible suspects has no intersection with yours at all because we use completely different interpretation methods. maybe i do stuff too superficially, but it might also be that you think too complex. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:10 Scorch wrote:true dat. if i think about it, my last post comes around quite naive. it's highly probable that there is a clue name for each mafia player. what i meant to say was: while you try to find character traits and features for mafias, i search for things they actually DO, and words in the clue text that hint towards them. please just continue your way, you just might convince me in the future my top suspects for now remain Hittegods, Ghar and L. see if you can find something against them. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:28 Scorch wrote:thanks L for pointing out Ghar's mayor campaigning picture. he was second on my suspect list before, and now he has taken the clear lead. i am going to change my vote to Ghar. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 06:57 Scorch wrote: good, you saved another townie's life. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:12 Scorch wrote:it was rounded down in the last game. it probably works the same way this round. Chuiu, could you confirm this? Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:16 Scorch wrote: he is clean almost certainly. part of his strategic plan was to have all detectives check his role, and if noone would stand up denouncing him, he could be considered townie. it's been quite some time already and noone claimed to have spied on ace and found him mafia. i'm about 90% convinced of Ace's innocence at the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 18:52 Scorch wrote:i will not retract my vote for Ghar yet. i'm 80% convinced of his guilt, and even if he's inactive, it's still a mafia kill. my vote will remain until Ace rationally convinces me of a better target and explains to me his reasoning. post or PM me your strategic plan and i may comply. i trust and support you, but not blindly. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 20:12 Scorch wrote: do i interpret this correctly? you have a detective confirming someone's guilt? and you believe Ghar is innocent? then what prevents you from telling us right away who we should lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 22:41 Scorch wrote:i don't think Ghar being unavailable for the night vote is relevant. he would certainly value his real-life appointments higher than this game anyway, mafia or not. or maybe i misunderstand something. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:42 Scorch wrote:i really hope Mandalor is your renegade detective, not just inactive. it's a high risk you are taking, Ace. i will vote for mandalor anyway. edit: it seems mandalor's guilt was confirmed while i was typing. disregard my post then. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:51 Scorch wrote:by the way, in Chuiu's latest tally, Ace's vote for Mandalor only counts for a single vote instead of six. this confirms that Ace told the truth and was indeed roleblocked. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 07:05 Scorch wrote: how often does this question need to be answered? no detective stood up against him after checking his role, so he is 98% innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:47 Scorch wrote: i demand the traitor be crunched to death by a rabid horde of naked fat women :D Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:50 Scorch wrote:don't go after pink and toast for the sole reason of them acting like dicks. we have no hard convincing evidence at hand against either of the two (yet). i'd rather kill mafias than annoying townies. i'd send a vigilante after ghar and then wait for the next clues. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:24 Scorch wrote:i don't think it's necessary to construct any more far-fetched clues against ghar. we have serious evidence against him already. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:28 Scorch wrote:what i'm saying is that he is considered guilty by many people already anyway. for my part, i don't need any more material to want him dead. good night now, 1:30am here. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:17 Scorch wrote:nice one. follow the leader! Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:26 Scorch wrote:1/7 for Ghar and 10/58 for Mandalor isn't much out of proportion. i'm afraid this doesn't help us much, unless Ace knows a large portion of the voters to be sure townies. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:28 Scorch wrote: this is suspicious indeed. but then again, is there any clue evidence against smurfingchobo? Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:05 Scorch wrote:plus veterans have no active abilities to prove their role. thus, a mafia infiltrator isn't in danger of blowing his cover by failing to complete a certain task. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:13 Scorch wrote:i don't like this. i can't see any clues pointing towards wurm. i'm blackmailed to vote against wurm anyway because i'm in the first half of voters against mandalor. this sucks. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 20:23 Scorch wrote:would be interesting to hear who the other medics are. maybe one of them has more evidence against 'em. but of course we can't just release a list of medics for the mafia to assassinate. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:37 Scorch wrote: We don't need to lynch wurm over Ghar, we can kill both. Ace isn't roleblocked tomorrow, so he can announce a double lynch. Wurm is dead for sure. Mafia will probably not kill him tonight to cast further suspicion on him. It looks as if he will be lynched tomorrow, and if not and he is townie, mafia can still murder him next night. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:39 Scorch wrote:Ace himself said that he doesn't care about clues, but behaviour exclusively Posted in night7/main_page.145 On March 26 2008 18:27 Scorch wrote: i don't believe it works that way. i definitely think asking Chuiu about a vanilla mafia's role would yield "plain mafia", not "no special role". what would be the point of the ability otherwise? i think Chuiu would have warned us after the detective plan was presented if the detective ability worked this way. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 20:48 Scorch wrote:whoever it is, showtime should mind his manners, if he has any. he has been annoying for a long time already, and now he's starting to be rude too. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 21:03 Scorch wrote:would it really be a problem to say those things in a civilized way? you know, it doesn't make your point any stronger if you call someone a dumbass. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:26 Scorch wrote:well maybe he'll be banned once he is dead or the game is over, who knows? he has sufficiently showed what a immature, primitive character he is. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:29 Scorch wrote:don't tell me you would have killed wurm this night if you were mafia. it was obvious way before the end of the night that wurm will be lynched today. why would they waste their own killing power when they could just sit and wait for the town to do the dirty work? this makes the town waste a lynch, and possibly weakens the mayor's position should wurm turn out to be innocent. if it doesn't happen, they can always kill him any night after that, and maybe even blow up multiple medics at once with the suicide bomber. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:40 Scorch wrote:now are we lynching wurm? yes? there you have it. it wouldn't have been a large cost for the mafia to target him with 1 power (and they can still always do that later!). it is a very large cost for the town to waste a lynch however. a good trade for the bad guys. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 01:56 Scorch wrote:i'd rather kill a mafia than an individualist. as i read your posts, you aren't 100% convinced of wurm's guilt, right? i'm under the impression that you want to make an example of wurm, not to stand up against this... regime. how about we concentrate on clues and information that every townie has, not only your elite circle of "confirmed" innocents, to find actual mafias? of course wurm could be a mafioso, but i'm far from believing that considering the lack of clues in day posts. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:09 Scorch wrote: showtime sure acts like he is the king of the world, and claims to know a lot, so he is probably in close contact with Ace due to an alleged power role. this doesn't mean he's legit though. if he knew beforehand that lucas protected him (which i don't know), he could just say that he was hit although he wasn't because he is a mafia. if people believed him, that would cement him as an innocent. i have no idea how likely this is, but i don't think it can be absolutely ruled out. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:17 Scorch wrote: i missed the part in the OP where it says the protecting medic is informed too. disregard my post then, sorry. i vote for A), use a role check on wurm. relatively low cost, possible high reward of not wasting a precious lynch on a townie. and if wurm fails the detective test, noone will argue against lynching him. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 17:35 Scorch wrote:oh, the drama! 1) when (time stamp) did lucas send the medic confirmation pm to ace? if it was after the day post, lucas was definitely dead at that point and his action was against the rules. did he actually pm that chuiu told him that he had successfully saved showtime, or did lucas only say that he was going to protect showtime? in the second case, showtime might not actually have been hit. 2) do i understand this right? you had an external chatroom without password protection and only pw'ed it after the incident? then it shouldn't come as a surprise that someone just walked in. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 17:54 Scorch wrote: i'm tempted to do so based on his mannerisms, but that would be childish. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:14 Scorch wrote: how about this: either lucas broke the game rules (telling ace that he saved showtime after his own death), or he didn't say anything on whether or not he successfully protected anyone, or showtime is lying and wasn't actually hit. show me those logs and i will vote to lynch araav, even though araav invading the chatroom doesn't mean he is mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:25 Scorch wrote:then what is araav's role? is he mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:31 Scorch wrote:i'm quite sure they are aware of that possibility. but still, with only 3 detective actions per day, not everybody can be checked. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:48 Scorch wrote:Damnit! I was really convinced of Ghar being mafia. Not surprised to see that wurm was indeed a medic though. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 20:18 Scorch wrote:Blame Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:22 Scorch wrote:Showtime! and a mafia are dead, and i live. Hurray! The loss of two detectives hurts a lot though. We're really running out of sources of information with only one jack and one detective remaining. I hope Empyrean and New104 told Ace their revelations before they died. Now let's kill another mafia to reduce their killing power! Edit: Do we have a double lynch available today or was Ace roleblocked? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:26 Scorch wrote:I thought he was a veteran, making himself a target for the mafia and thus wasting their killing power which they would otherwise use on more profitable targets. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 17:55 Scorch wrote:ok, now to analyze some clues. let's see what i can find. this is just stuff that quickly caught my eye, some superficial links to people's profiles using the list at http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=20#385 . i have yet to look deeper and see how this fits with the mafia character profiles and clues from earlier days. most of these are only wild accusations which aren't based on much. Candidates for Enigma: HotZhot could be Enigma smiling back, according to his signature. Weak clue. Caller could be Enigma "calling" his friends over to help him. Weak clue. Unfogiven_ve could be smiling Enigma due to his smilie signature. Weak clue. KorvspaD could be Enigma being fond of his friends (signature: "a friend with weed is a friend indeed..."). Medium clue. BuGzIToOnI could be Enigma who loves his friends because of his signature. Weak clue. Candidates for Taipan Snake: str could be Taipan Snake grilling his prey with electrical power. Weak clue. Zeks could be Taipan Snake. His signature reminds me of an unresponsible policeman abusing his power to kill a guy with a tazer (with electrical power). Medium clue. HotZhot could be Taipan Snake, "frying" Empyrean with the great heat signaled by HotZhot's name. Weak clue. Energies' name relates to the tazer gun. Medium to strong clue, but maybe too obvious. Candidates for Cottonmouth: RtS)Night[Mare could be Cottonmouth placing 5 nails, then stabbing him with 6 more. Nightmare was born on the 5th of June(6). Very weak clue, but maybe smart and obscure enough to be a strong clue? There are a couple more possible combinations of numbers in this paragraph, this was just the one i stumbled upon. ulszz's signature indicates that he is a noob (at throwing nails) and needs reminding (by The Wolf), so he could be Cottonmouth. Medium clue. Eti307's could be Cottonmouth. signature: "A person who never made a mistake (missing a lot of nail throws) never tried anyething new (trying to kill someone with nails)". Plus the numbers could point at his name: stabbing the victim with 1+6=7 nails, then throwing 3 more, 0 of which hit the target. Medium clue plus a weak one. LostYourSkills could be Cottonmouth, having lost all his nail throwing skills and thus missing thrice. Medium clue. suresh0t could be Cottonmouth using nails because he wields a hammer in his profile pic. who else would kill with nails? Strong clue. Candidates for The Wolf: SoMuchBetter because The Wolf does the nail throwing "so much better" than the other mafia. Medium clue. suresh0t because The Wolf kills with one sure shot. Medium clue. HotZhot for the same reason, HotShot being the same as a SureShot. Medium clue. LostYourSkills' signature indicates that he is very skilled, like The Wolf. Medium clue. Winston seems to be a vigilante, no need to investigate this. same here, Ordell is a vigilante and Queasy is dead now anyway. notice how Queasy was drunk and puking again, fitting the profile of the Sidewinder codename. if i had to choose now, i'd go with lynching suresh0t. let's see what you other guys come up with. Edit: forgot Energies as a Taipan Snake suspect. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:38 Scorch wrote: i think there would have been a couple more blue kills if that was the case. Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 18:11 Scorch wrote: that's ok by me. my clue interpretations weren't meant to be in-depth. i had hoped an overlap would occur between my stuff and plexa's, but it didn't. so i will go with plexa's find of d.arkive. i'm not fully convinced, but it looks like a nice plausible link, a connection that chuiu would likely build into the clues. thanks for your work plexa! Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 18:19 Scorch wrote:regarding araav's case, Showtime! told me in a PM that araav is a plain townie after the "hacking" incident: i have no way of knowing if this is true, considering showtime's generally strange behavior. on the other hand, he turned up townie after his death, so he probably wouldn't have a reason to lie. i suspect araav was detective role-checked as was stated in the thread and turned out to be green. furthermore, there aren't any hard clues against araav. so i suggest we leave him alone. note that this PM came long before Showtime's death, so nothing of this is against the rules. Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:49 Scorch wrote: i would even agree with this exact order you rock plexa. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 04:29 Scorch wrote:hmmm... if d.arkive and MTF are innocent, that greatly shortens our suspect list. who would be next in the ranking? suresh0t? i'm really not convinced of his guilt, or anyone else's, for that matter. this sucks. i'm kinda clueless at the moment. seems we got our profiling wrong as for these 1/6 guys, i don't see much clue evidence against any of them, which doesn't make our task easier either. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 17:04 Scorch wrote: I'd like to emphasize this once more: We have the following certain information: EITHER one out of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, OR two out of - Chezinu - useLess - aZnvaLiaNce - fusionsdf are mafia. From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia. At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys! My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 17:40 Scorch wrote: One list is the voters for Ghar on day 2, the second list consists of who voted for Ace on day 3. The list of innocents comes from Ace, i think it was compiled in cooperation with New104 (dead detective). If these premises are correct, then my reasoning should be sound. Remember though that it's either 2/4 or 1/3. So we have one or two mafias among seven suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 17:50 Scorch wrote: Maybe I missed it within the depths of this monster thread, but could Ace please explain where this "other set of info" comes from? Is this credible information? If it is not, my whole reasoning crumbles like a house of cards. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 00:13 Scorch wrote: Wrong. We started at 20/130=15.4% mafia. At the moment, 90 townies and 18 mafia are still alive, which gives 18/108=16.7% mafia. Mafia managed to shift the percentage a bit to their advantage, but after the next kill they will have less killing power. The longer the game goes, the more information becomes available. So i think town is on a good way to victory. And the confirmed town-aligned leader would be our mayor, Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 02:04 Scorch wrote: The problem with this being that there is only a single detective left. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 16:29 Scorch wrote: This doesn't match up really. If MTF was confirmed innocent earlier, why is he on the top suspect list? Bumatlarge is probably innocent: the "bum" clue (codename: Sidewinder) was most likely linked to Queasy. See Plexa's post on page 184. All of this leaves us with very uncertain information and a less than average percentage of mafia in this subset (1/11 if you consider MTF and BloodyC0bbler innocent), which isn't helping us much. I suggest we take our investigations in another direction. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 23:34 Scorch wrote:Because you are also on the list of seven suspects outlined earlier. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 16:32 Scorch wrote: Is this the revolutionary, mind-bogglingly important stuff you announced to be going to post towards the end of the night to cleanse yourself from suspicion? Is that all? I'm afraid that's not convincing enough for me by far. I found it questionable already why you would withhold information available to you for later. Let me tell you that you're not out of the question for me at all. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 05:53 Scorch wrote:I would change my approach too if i had died so quickly the last time Anyone know when day is coming? Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:45 Scorch wrote:LOOK AT THIS PEOPLE! Ace is either incompetent at copy-pasting, or telling us bullshit intentionally. New104 was confirmed innocent by his death and had no reason to lie, so there's definitely something fishy going on. It should be apparent by now that too many blues are dying, and maybe, just maybe, Ace is the reason for this. There is a leak of information somewhere 100%. How else would the mafia know who the last detective is and even use their suicide bomber on him? Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:07 Scorch wrote: Then who did? Whoever first brought up this manipulated list is your mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:16 Scorch wrote:Ask him where he got this list from, and if his explanation isn't absolutely credible, reveal his name for us to lynch him. Since the mafia seems to know almost everything anyway, i don't think it is crucial to keep many secrets. By the way, why didn't you have one or multiple medics protect your last detective? They would have died to the suicide bomber, so in retrospect it is lucky you didn't, but how could you risk the lone detective's life this easily? Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 17:51 Scorch wrote:So between this list + Show Spoiler + bumatlarge - 11 MTF d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa fanatacist Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) Scorch(2) and this list + Show Spoiler + MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler he added SpiritoftheTuna, ~OpZ~ and NatsuTerran, and removed my name from the list. What was his motive to do that? Could it be to protect Tuna, OpZ and Natsu because they are fellow mafias, and avoid protecting me because I am an active townie? So many questions... Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 18:33 Scorch wrote:Nice find LTT! So apparently the traitor didn't even look into the thread properly. What a noob, and still we didn't catch it! (Well, Ace did.) The most obvious reason would be that the list contains mafias which he wanted to protect from lynching by telling the town that they were confirmed innocents. You see it worked. Plexa had figured out d.arkive as mafia (kudos to him!), but we couldn't lynch him once the forged list appeared. All of this wouldn't have been unearthed if d.arkive had not blown himself up, we would have continued to believe it blindly. I understand that Ace is furious about inactives. Had the second real Jack reported to him, there would have been a conflict much earlier and all of this wouldn't have happened. Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 20:56 Scorch wrote: phat respect to my main man plexa from da hood! he's da smoothest homie y'all! Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:26 Scorch wrote:Dear Plexa, You, sir, are a damn freak. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:15 Scorch wrote:!!! IMPORTANT !!! It's nice of you to consider my conclusions and all, but this is not correct any more! I thought I had already made it clear that my list was based on the list of "confirmed" innocents, which turned out to be fake. We can thus ignore the list of innocents, which adds ~OpZ~ to the picture. It is therefore now: (Exactly one out of imDerek | Evilmonkey | Alventenie) OR (Exactly one out of Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:32 Scorch wrote: I find this to be very relevant. The Jack already forged a list of "innocent" townies. Now he is involved in this conflicting case. I trust Plexa much much more than someone who claimed a role, has access to a list of rolled people who are now dead, forged an incorrect list of innocents, and now is involved in an incident of conflicting numbers. What, the medic protecting the Jack would have to be lying too? No problem! There is an impostor among the medics, which is why we lynched Doesn't all of this add up wonderfully? Unless I overlooked something grave - Ace, I demand you publish the Jack's name for us to lynch him. If the Jack is mafia, as I suspect, we catch the lying medic as well. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 18:26 Scorch wrote: Since Evilmonkey is revealed mafia, that means that<ul><li> imDerek <li> Alventenie <li> fusionsdf <li> ~OpZ~ <li> useLess <li> aZnvaLiaNce </ul>are all confirmed innocent. This time by logic, not by a forged list. Go town! Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 18:35 Scorch wrote: We won't get any new lists because all detectives are dead and the single "real" Jack is probably inactive. This means we'll have to rely on clues and profiling almost exclusively. Let's see what new information the day post brings. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 18:00 Scorch wrote: That PM came from me. It appears you think that makes me mafia. It does not. First, read again what I wrote and tell me what of that is complete made-up bullshit. With the knowledge we had at that point, I think it all made sense. I just wrote what I thought was the truth. Second, had I wanted to start a bandwagon, I would've posted this in the thread instead of in a PM. I posted this privately because I wanted Plexa's opinion on my thoughts. Third, you'll have to admint that there really was a lot of plausible evidence against Ghar (especially that picture), which made 30 people believe he was guilty. I was not the only one who thought he was mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 20:46 Scorch wrote:You are certainly aware of the fact that it is easy to twist numbers in a way to find almost any result you are looking for. I think the 42 / 44 thing was merely a coincidence and I wouldn't want to rely on something like that for lynching. Especially since Chuiu could certainly find better clues for a name like MasterOfChaos. I'd understand it if he used this clue pattern for someone like ZBiR, fgsvsd, KF91, 0cz3c or L, who have senseless names and little other information to work with. But master of friggin chaos? We'll see if we get a 46 in the next day post. I doubt it. But if we do, I take everything back and you can feel free to lynch #40. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 21:46 Scorch wrote:One doesn't need to be stubborn or mafia not to believe your interpretation. qrs conceded he'll be stunned if your interpretation turns out to be correct, but he doesn't believe it does for now. Same goes for me unless a 46 appears in the next day post in a couple of hours. You'll have to admit that what you found isn't exactly the most straightforward of clues, and that it might only be a coincidence. So don't be surprised and angry if people doubt you. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 22:46 Scorch wrote: Chuiu could have taken arbitrary/meaningless numbers which were possibly never meant to be added, and add up to a similar result only by chance. Or the numbers could be connected to something else entirely. An unintentional red herring if you will. I had already understood before how you got your results, thank you. As I said twice already, I'm waiting for a 46 tomorrow. Why? First, because the larger sample size would make it that much less likely that it's all a coincidence (especially because our discussion warns Chuiu not to make that unintentional mistake again, if it was one). Second, because you would then have made a correct prediction, proving your theory right. Two occurences would be enough for me if they added up to the same number, but we need to include an additional variable (the day count), making it all more complicated and unsure. EDIT: This case became true just while I was typing. #44 (str) is thus a strong suspect for me. I think we've used up our actions for the night, so we can wait for the day post anyway to confirm the suspicion. --- By the way, you would appear much more credible and serious if you wouldn't absolutely rule out that maybe, just maybe, you might not know the answer to everything. | ||
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91. Scorch Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:40 Scorch wrote:What the hell is up with this Jack/medic shit? Was decafchicken the Jack that reported to you but screwed up with the fake list? Why did he do that? And it appears there's still a medic impostor telling the mafia who the power roles are. Why would Heros)Pink be mafia? Could you elaborate? Some wild accusations from me: - Hollander as Enigma for various weak links to his picture: introducing himself politely like a man in a smoking would do, grinning back, ugly face etc. - LTT as Mr.Brown: he cannot be understood because he comes from Shakuras. - clazziquai the same: he from kiribati, he no speak english. He was already suspected for this. Note though that Mr.Brown does speak English in one clue, so maybe this is the wrong route to go. - RowdierBob as some mafia attacking in close combat. He is a rowdy/street brawler, and his profile pic makes him look quite sadistic. - infinity21 as Cottonmouth. His name contains a number, and infinity is also strongly related to numbers. Don't take these too seriously, but maybe someone finds further evidence pointing towards these guys. All of them are fairly inactive in the thread, so they might be lurking mafiosi. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 17:53 Scorch wrote: Look at the OP. There are only 20 mafias total: one suicider, one saboteur and 18 without abilities. Non-townies are related 1:1 to those codenames. Btw, if you admit yourself that your clue against me is far-fetched, at least write it in italics Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 18:19 Scorch wrote: Is this still true? What's the reasoning for this? Should we vote to lynch MTF? Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 19:43 Scorch wrote:Time for a little résumé! Mafia started out with 20 criminals out of a total population of 130 = 15.4% Now it is 15/92 = 16.3% Since the mafia's goal is to get over 50%, it is safe to say that the town is at a numeric advantage at the moment, having prevented the bad guys from greatly shifting the proportion in their favor. Now this is causing me headaches: Mafia are killing off one special role after the other, leaving us with no detective abilities at all. While more and more vague clues are being revealed, really hard evidence will be hard to come by in the future. There are only 4 medics left, one of which is likely inactive and replaced by an impostor. Most vigilante kills have been used up. In short: it will be damn hard for us to keep our momentum with few extra kills, no detective information and little medic protection. Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 22:18 Scorch wrote:Nice one! A dragoon specifically uses guns though: While Mr.Brown pulls a gun out of his coat at Fishball's, which fits perfectly, he then proceeds to beat him to death instead. BloodyC0bbler is killed with a sharp stone. Both kills don't really match a dragoon. Not to say this is a bad connection, but a dragoon prefers other methods of killing. crazie-penguin convinves me more at the moment, so I'll vote for him. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 17:57 Scorch wrote:I'm against lynching L today. There's still a small possibility he could be a medic, and we shouldn't risk losing a precious medic if we aren't absolutely sure. I suggest we wait until tomorrow and kill someone else in the meantime. L is dead anyway, either by mafia tonight or by lynching tomorrow. My vote remains on crazie-penguin. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 22:39 Scorch wrote: Ya, that works nicely. DamageControL specified no other information in his profile, so we can only look at his name. And this could be just the kind of clue Chuiu would make. Dr.Dragoon, crazie-penguin and L are all even more suspicios to me, but it never hurts to have more lynch victims Good work again, Plexa! Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 23:26 Scorch wrote: Meh. Weak methinks. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:05 Scorch wrote:He has an ugly look on his face that can possibly even be interpreted as the look while charging, but that's about it. I can't see anything relating to Enigma running his hand through his hair (you don't even see spoinka's hair on his pic), exclaiming meaningful sentences, writing down notes, his friends, or holding someone to the ground. I don't believe all of these traits are there purely for storytelling purposes. At least a couple of them are connected to the player we are searching for, and spoinka doesn't fit that profile. Not that I'd have a better candidate at hand, but I won't lynch someone only because he looks weird in his profile picture. Agree? Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:44 Scorch wrote:If a remarkable appearance/look is all it takes to be Enigma, that criterion is fulfilled by a lot of people: http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SoMuchBetter http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hollander I can see where you're coming from, but for me, personally, it isn't convincing enough. Why would Chuiu make so many different/distracting/inconsistent clues for spoinka? --- By the way, look at what I stumbled upon: If Enigma calls his friends "pretty cool guys" (exactly same wording!), does this represent a clue against our pardoner, randombum? Could easily be a coincidence of course, "pretty cool guys" is the standard phrase almost everyone would use to describe his friends. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 06:02 Scorch wrote:LOL at BlindAlbino indeed. Those ultra-strange metaphors and sayings are a blast to read Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 23:33 Scorch wrote:Plexa is on fire! I think the ZBiR connection is a bit unnatural (he's from Poland, not Croatia). I can certainly agree with SoMuchBetter and clazziquai though. I already had them suspected earlier, even if it was in a different context either time. Too many criminals to kill for our small militia. Should we call the army for help? Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:05 Scorch wrote:Wait, I am the prime suspect for Mr. Pink? Why is that? Since your word has a lot of weight (rightly so!), I'd very much like to hear the reasoning for this accusation. Let me state this clearly: I am a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:35 Scorch wrote:Indeed, I didn't even know that there's a Scorch supervillainesse. Just looked her up in Wikipedia, and have two things to say in my defense: - I'm not a girl, and certainly not an evil one - The Scorch comic character would probably kill with fire, which Mr. Pink hasn't done yet. In fact, any clue involving fire would point to my name directly, but there hasn't been a single one in all of the day posts. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 02:55 Scorch wrote:Not a supervillain, but my own take on Mr. Pink + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" (wisdom, cool-headed planning) commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia (unemotional remark). As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot (gruesome, macabre), the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head (same again). OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter (gained a "level-up" from Mynock's pain?). Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live (energy leeched out of him?). Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (Mr. Pink wants to beat him to death slowly for additional pain, instead of shooting him dead quickly. Mr.Brown obeys because Mr.Pink is considered wise and cold-minded.) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. From this, I extract two major themes: bloodlust/violence/sadism and thoughtfulness/wisdom/considerateness. Bind this to RtS)Night[Mare's profile text: "Pain makes one suffer. Suffering makes one think. Thinking makes one wise. And Wisdom makes life bearable." Nightmare gains wisdom/strength by pain (of his victims?). This fits perfectly with Mr.Pink's brutality and sadism, and it also explains Mr.Pink's smartness and good thinking. If you want to take the "supervillain or being with superhuman powers" route, a "Nightmare" or "Incubus" is also a demon, which drains energy from its victim and would probably be a strong fighter. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 18:54 Scorch wrote: I do have another suspect among these, RtS)Night[Mare. I'd say ulszz > NightMare > nemY. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 19:15 Scorch wrote:Wrong. Night[Mare voted for Mandalor too. + Show Spoiler + On March 24 2008 13:44 Chuiu wrote: Final Vote Count: [...] Mandalor - 58 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress [...] Edit: I'm too slow, you already found that out yourself Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 21:33 Scorch wrote: If we assume Mr.Pink is indeed an incubus demon, it would work. I did a little research on nightmares and incubi and found out that in different tellings, incubi drain the life out of their victims to sustain themselves (That's what I meant with the level-up part, gaining strength from sucking out his energy. That's why Mynock has no chance against Mr.Pink for the rest of the fight, and dies with no strength left to live.), and that they have sexual intercourse with people in their sleep. While Mr.Pink didn't rape anyone, holding BloodyC0bbler down would fit: Wikipedia states that in fact The word incubo translates into "I lie on top". Furthermore, BloodyC0bbler feels himself dying already before he is caught, probably because the demon has already begun draining his energy from a distance. I'm not claiming this to be a correct connection and that RtS)Night[Mare absolutely has to be mafia, but I know that I am innocent and try to defend myself by suggesting a plausible alternative. PS Fun fact: Incubi are known to have exceptionally cold penises. Nightmare, do you have anything to tell us about your dong? Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 00:42 Scorch wrote:L will definitely have to die unless a miracle happens and he somehow manages to save someone tonight. As for the second lynch, I currently feel the strongest about SoMuchBetter and Dr.Dragoon. But ulszz would probably be the best strategic decision. Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 00:45 Scorch wrote: Nothing personal, I was only saving my own ass. SoleSteeler has taken your place now. I don't think we would have found him without the energy-draining incubus stuff, so... thank you Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 03:08 Scorch wrote:Whenever there is a lot of numbers in one place, you can juggle them around to find anything you are looking for. I made the very same suspicion way back on day 4, but have since realized that those numbers aren't suitable evidence. You can fit them to almost anyone you like if a candidate has numbers in his name, date of birth, number in the player list or what have you. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 16:45 Scorch wrote: Your sentence doesn't make any sense. There is evidence against you already now, you wouldn't be accused otherwise. Whether the connection is solid and will be repeated in the upcoming days remains to be seen. We will lynch other people first, you're not so high up the priority list. If ulszz turns out mafia though, that means Nightmare is innocent, which isn't good for you. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 20:10 Scorch wrote:Yeah let's see. When is day? Daytime will probably be fast because we already know almost for sure who to lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 21 2008 21:51 Scorch wrote:Plexa discovered an aspect of soul stealing that means not only draining life energy, but also gaining the target's attributes. Kinda like shapeshifting. Creepy... Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 22 2008 21:17 Scorch wrote:Those mafias are not only reckless murderers, but lazy bums too. Won't you finally send your hit list so we can carry on? You've taken three days already. How much work can it possibly be for 14 people to write up seven names? Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:33 Scorch wrote:Has a double lynch already been declared? I think it's safe to lynch ulszz along with L. Mr.Blue acted quite nooblike again by finding no entrance in the house, alerting fusionsdf by noisefully kicking in the door and then having lots of trouble actually killing him. (Don't let yourselves be deceived by ulszz's signature. He only changed it recently and had a quote linking him to Mr.Blue before that.) Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:45 Scorch wrote: Eddie is clearly the mafia boss, I believe he has the saboteur role. Too bad we don't have a very strong candidate for Eddie. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 17:47 Scorch wrote: How do you get to 63? If I add the explicit numbers (bolded in the quote, I hope I didn't overlook anything), they add up to 57. Is infinity21 confirmed innocent? His name would relate perfectly to a number theme. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 21:08 Scorch wrote: What the hell would you need a placeholder for? I think your quest to bring proper structure into a 253 page thread is doomed to fail. Regarding Cottonmouth, thanks qrs for your observation. Now what can we deduce from 15 being the magic number? Player #15 was Hittegods, so this is a dead-end. Letter #15 in the alphabet is O, but I don't have anything to tie to that letter. The ASCII symbol for 15 is SI (shift in). Can we make something out of that? I'm quite clueless. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 22:42 Scorch wrote:Go all, exercise you right to vote! Think about how frustrating it must be for Chuiu to organize this game and put lots of work into it, and then only 20 or 30 people vote. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 18:13 Scorch wrote:Now with L gone, the remaining power roles are probably legit. So far, so good. If ulszz was innocent, we need a new candidate for Mr.Blue. I found the "noob" route quite convincing, but apparently it wasn't. One of the reasons we killed ulszz so soon was because he was on this list of people (1 mafia among them): araav <--- proved innocent by a detective after the "hacking" incident. Could Ace confirm? rts)night[mare infundibilum ahrara qrs nemy Now who of these could be the bad guy? We have some evidence against NemY and NightMare, but nothing strong. Should we concentrate on other suspects for now? Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 22:07 Scorch wrote: Ha! There we have it! :D Do you guys agree that Eddie, as the mafia's leader, has the saboteur rule? If so, is it worth taking risks in lynching Eddie suspects vs lynching relatively certain vanilla mafia candidates? Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 05:50 Scorch wrote:I vote for fusiondf for now, since he declared his candidacy before the roles were assigned, and made a couple of decent points back then. i need to catch up with about 40 pages of text in the discussion thread though, so i may well change my vote later. but now i need some sleep! Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 19:59 Scorch wrote:I vote to lynch Hittegods. Find my reasoning on page 96 of the discussion thread. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=96&topic_id=67925) Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 06:46 Scorch wrote:I retreat my vote from Hittegods and vote to lynch Ghar instead. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:47 Scorch wrote:I hereby change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 00:38 Scorch wrote:I was ordered by our honorable mayor to vote to lynch Suspect #1 (wurm) to save my own ass. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 17:40 Scorch wrote:My second vote goes against Ghar for the time being. The first one remains on wurm, according to the glorious plan. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 18:53 Scorch wrote:I need to change my vote again since Ace altered his suspect list once more. My first vote goes to wurm, the second one to bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 19:26 Scorch wrote:I vote for d.arkive for the time being. Don't get mad should i decide to change my opinion Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 05 2008 04:17 Scorch wrote:Since he was confirmed innocent, i no longer vote for d.arkive and abstain instead for now. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 18:06 Scorch wrote:I will cast one vote on Siefu and abstain with the other for now. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 16 2008 22:04 Scorch wrote:I vote to lynch crazie-penguin. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 20:53 Scorch wrote:I vote to lynch L and ulszz. + Show Spoiler [ShaLLoW[baY] + ] 1. ShaLLoW[baY] Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 02:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I'm back from my two day break! I'm excited for the new round, and seeing as I didn't get a chance to post in the other thread you guys can post/PM me if you want to ask me questions about last game Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 14:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:How very unfortunate. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Cmooooooon Shallow wants Mad Hatter. DONT LET ME DOWN CHUIU! Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Can someone summarize the last 29 pages for me? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: When I think about the way I handled clues last game, I tried to find out which clue pointed to which Mafioso, and then misinterpret that clue in order to make it point to as many people as possible, including the Mafioso. This might be the same thing Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 04:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:POSSIBLE COLOUR CLUES OUTLINED Blue http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=SonuvBob (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=iNfuNdiBuLuM http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Bockit http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Last Romantic (his name is in Blue) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Plexa (his name is in Blue) Red http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemY Brown http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=RtS)Night[Mare http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bumatlarge http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AmorVincitOmnia (his -signature : brown skin woman you a queen) Pink http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Unforgiven_ve http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeRoS)Pink (it's in his name! profile has an abundance of Blue though) http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MoRe_mInErAls ADDITIONAL CLUES There are so many fucking snake references...I'm looking at you, wurm. Two of the three snakes mentioned are found in Australia, the other is found in Mexico and the US. Who are some Aussie players? -SoMuchBetter is from Australia -He has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature. -Guy in his profile has a massive brown hat -Fen -Energies -Camlito -Lostyourskills -Bockit -Siefu -Scorch -Rowdierbob (one of the mafia asks forgiveness from Chuiu "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand". In his signature, RB is forgiving Plexa for being a Kiwi) -Ghar -Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" EDIT : 4:57 TL time ; added Australians to the list. EDIT : 5:04 ; Two people who could be pointed to by colour clues, and wtf kind of logic is that? MidnightGladius's signature. "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change.- Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General" MY THOUGHTS AS OF NOW I suspect: - RtS)Night[Mare - from Mexico, (sidewinder), guy with long, BROWN dreadlocks in his profile. - Ghar - from Australia, above "surrounded" quote by Aznvaliance. - So Much Better - from Australia,has "AUSSIESCUM" in his signature,guy in his profile - I have a gut feeling about Plexa and fusionsdf. EDIT Mar22/13:23 ADDED MoRe_mInErAls to Pink list. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 04:55 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:By the way, none of the information in my above post is solid enough to lynch with at the moment. I'm editing more in as it comes. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:17 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I urge everyone to check out my post just above on this page, and leave me some feedback Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Your "Wolf" clue interpretation is pretty good I think Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Last game there was no Mafia candidate for Mayor. I can guarantee that this game there's going to be at least one, seeing as how last game if we'd had a mayor we would have taken the win a week earlier. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: He's been killing our innocent Chuiu and Dapperdan. Posted in night7/main_page.032 Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Posted in night7/main_page.032 Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Hey, I'm the guy who throws unfounded accusations around around here. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:If you're trying to get me lynched as part of some mafia plan, it's pretty apparent that you're relying on an inherent distrust of me due to my subterfuge last game. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: The mafia have by now had enough time to read my megapost and formulate an opinion on whether they want me killed or not. It would appear that my guesses are for the large part correct, and thus they're trying to turn public support against me. Go for it guys ^^ Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If we live by the "That could be just what the mafia want us to think" mindset, we're dead. You and I, along with several other players who were in the last game, know the truth behind this statement. That being said, best of luck to you, although my vote has already been cast. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oh hi, didn't see you there. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 07:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Last game a joke got Dr.Dragoon directly lynched, followed by a string of indirect lynchings and deaths. Putting all of the spaces doesn't seem to do anything by the way. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I'm going to publicly ask for Paramedic protection tonight, as if it turns out there is a hit on me, it'll mean a) my suspicions are somewhat correct b) they're all completely wrong Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: He means a detective mayor AND pardoner is better, I think. There are 110 townies and 20 mafia. If we use our doubles wisely we can easily tip the balance. Posted in night7/main_page.034 Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oooh alright. I don't see how a SB mayor could be considered good for town in any case, besides the fact that their role is basically nullified. Posted in night7/main_page.034 Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Mynock, part of this stems from irritation over last game, but I think you're making yourself look pretty suspicious by badgering a legitimate mayor candidate. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:16 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:fusion, fusionfusionfusionfusion. You'll have to try harder than that, son. Posted in night7/main_page.035 Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: 1. Yeah they do. 2. You just admitted you have a role? Posted in night7/main_page.036 Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Such Epil Fail signifies nothing less than Mafia! Posted in night7/main_page.037 Posted in night7/main_page.037 Posted in night7/main_page.037 Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Guys vote me for mayor because I rule Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I refuse to respond to PMs such as the one Artanis sent me, as I just KNOW he's going to doctor my response and post it. Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Yeah, seeing that was the exact method I used in Mafia 1, I'm not falling for it, even if he wasn't planning on it. Posted in night7/main_page.040 Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:fusion, I'm not answering PMs like that. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: "hey shallow am I suspicious" "yes" Then you'll just change the question to something like "are you mafia" I've been down this road before. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I know, but I'm not going to risk it. Especially if he and Artanis are in it together, seeing as they've both sent me close to identical pm's Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: offtopic : how is DT short for detective? DeTective? DetecTive? Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Ok fusion now you're just wasting your time Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:20 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Didn't you use that same picture last game as well? Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: LOL the best part is that it says "to : ShaLLoW[baY]" and not from. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I don't know what the point of the sudden influx of shitty PM doctoring is, by the way Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: *watches as JeeJee slowly stirs the shit* Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: apparently, although i still dont understand why Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Conjohnner just joined tl-west, I wonder what he's up to! woopsie wrong thread, Ambition is thattaway! Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oh fuck off, I'm not even dead this time so please no bitching about me posting. And I even said that one of the posts was an accident. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: You seriously do remind me of Tracil last game. You just don't say "scum" as every second word. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This isn't meant as an insult or anything by the way, it's just a statement of fact. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: <-> <-> <-> wow it annoys me to type that, let alone read it. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 13:55 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Me neither but I just realized how irritating it would be! Posted in night7/main_page.049 Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:By the way, I apologize to Vharox, I didn't even consider that it could be your brother, and you didn't seem like the kind to cheat when we were discussing last game. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Be sure that it's 100% seriuz buzinez or people will start bitching at you for ages. Posted in night7/main_page.056 Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I'm compiling a suspicion list based on peoples actions throughout the game so far. I won't be posting it until later, when there is more to go on. Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.059 Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: You and your mafia buddies want to kill him tonight? Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I suppose you haven't noticed his harassments of me in the thread, plus the neverending stream of PM's that he keeps sending me. There are things here that you don't know about, I'm sorry to inform you. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Bravo Ace. Bravo. Now who's going to upload replays for us? Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Can I propose we have a detective check up on our mayor? I think a Blue being lynched out of 129 possibilities is really..unlikely. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Well, they'd know who wasn't Red, which is a good enough start Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I think Showtime! has made a few dodgy posts, this isn't a flat out accusation but I'm watching him carefully. There are also a few more that I'm being wary of. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Showtime!, I'm awaiting your PM response. Please don't keep me waiting long, or I'll think you're taking the time to consort with your mafia buddies. Posted in night7/main_page.068 Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:12 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Does this mean that you're the mafioso shitstirrer? Because I'm very inclined to believe it, and I think that your sudden switch to posting bullshit while claiming to be drunk is very suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:17 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Gee, this seems like a fairly coherent post from someone who was drunk and babbling about two minutes ago. Please, tell me the secret to sobering up fast! Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: ... did you READ THE POST OF HIS I QUOTED? OR THE ONE BEFORE IT ABOUT INCONTROL? Have you read any of this guys posts? Your sudden jump to believe his story about being drunk, while he's still capable of posting a vastly contrasting, logical post, is a bit iffy. Last game, I was mafia. It was my prerogative. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I think Teamliquid should implement a [/squelch] button. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Showtime! is an idiot. That's all I'll say about the matter. qrs : I'm just a bit frustrated that everyone's taking my role from last game, and keeps bringing it up when we're in a completely different round of Mafia. Yes, I stirred shit. Why would I want to cause confusion this game? Get a detective to check on me, I'm Green through and through. btw, I changed my signature. My old one is still available for reference in araav's list. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If only I hadn't renounced my campaign against Showtime! I'd make some sort of joke about Trolls also living under a bridge. Thank God I didn't do it I have a question though, which is probably easily answered. Did randombum know who you (Ace) intended to lynch before you did it, so that he had the option of pardon? ps. LOL Sonuvbob ^^ Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This sounds a lot like the Saboteur role to me, but again, like I said, the mafia couldn't possibly be that stupid! I'm going to do what pisses me off, and point out last game. "ShaLLoW wouldn't be stupid enough to blatantly forge a PM". Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:42 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Just as a sidenote, I'm aware that I am posting A LOT, so I'll be editing my upcoming posts more frequently instead of simply posting again. Make of it what you will. EDIT : What has come up in the plan, Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.076 Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 14:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Stir away, I'm not posting in the thread any more if this is how everyone's going to bandwagon against me. PM me if you want to discuss anything. Any comments directed against my person or my posting habits can wind up in my PM box, rather than cluttering up the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.090 Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 12:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Mynock, I've had enough of these immature random accusations. I understand if you're just trying to have fun, but confusing the town is never a good thing. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I've added MoRe_mInErAls to my Pink list, have a look at his profile. Not an accusation, just mentioning it because I missed it the first time. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:42 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Man, I was so sure that the clue pointed to CTStalker. Jesus, this came from nowhere. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: The Mafia only killed 5. I've updated my list post to take into account recent deaths. Yogurt shouldn't have hastily thrown a bomb, like a post below this one says, but CTStalker was the one person I was sure was Mafia, and I'd have bombed him too, I'm sorry to say Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Smiley Only + Show Spoiler + 127-L Display Name : L Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Tuesday, 29th of January 2008 Quote : :D 36-Unforgiven_ve Display Name : Unforgiven_ve Birthday : August 27, 1982 Country : Venezuela Joined : Tuesday, 24th of August 2004 Quote : Jammed Electronics = no power? + Show Spoiler + 44-str Display Name : str Birthday : Country : Bulgaria Joined : Saturday, 21st of July 2007 Quote : no units = no power Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground + Show Spoiler + 57-LoStYouRSkiLLS Quote : Skill is when Luck becomes Habit I'm seriously getting tired of all the snake references, by the way. They make me feel like I'm missing something obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=suresh0t He's holding a hammer? Maybe this one is a stretch, but whatever. I don't think any Pink references fit him. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=bumatlarge + Show Spoiler + Guy in brown with someone just behind him? OR http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AmorVincitOmnia + Show Spoiler + Brown hair behind someone with blonde hair? Chuiu says he tries to intentionally avoid red herrings though, and the colour associated with a mafioso would thus be expected to associate with that mafioso Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Last game we just hit random people, with one or two threats thrown in (Mynock this round). This makes me think, although nowhere near 100% certainty, that either someone is mafia again this game or that they were just paying attention to our strategy (maybe a lurker from last game). Not really anything to go on and the Sidewinder from Day 1. EDIT #2 @ HotZhot below. Yes, but I thought it was worth mentioning anyways Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:42 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Alternatively they hit a Veteran or a J-Veteran (Jack-Veteran, IM COINING NEW SLANG WOOT), but I see what you're getting at; I forgot to consider the failed hits in my analysis Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Three letters in his name too Oh, nice ninja edit as I quoted you! This seems pretty solid, someone make sure to remember this for later Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 11:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter Martial arts you say? Although I don't think Chuiu could have known that, unless I missed a post somewhere (entirely possible) Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 11:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Alright then, fair enough, disregard my post then Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: OMG THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING, MY WORLD IS IN TATTERS AND MY SANITY IS CRUMBLING AROUND ME! Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I know that's what I'm doing for the next while ^^; XiaOzI is a fucking killer Zerg. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Wow I didn't even notice that, good observation | ||
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] 1. ShaLLoW[baY] Posted in night7/main_page.112 Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: They both die a painful death, trust me It's not a member of the mafia targeting them though, it's the entire mafia agreeing to put them on the list. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Interesting choice, given Ace's explanation for his choice and the towns need to rely on their mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:If you guys are going to abstain after the recent evidence presented by Ace, please explain why. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: PS : I changed my signature again. The one I had when the game started is still available in araav and Sonuvbob's list posts. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 12:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: You are either really bad at this or...or..I don't know what. The suspicion on you is multiplying by the second. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:17 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I'm not getting suspicious of them, I'm just pointing them out, as Ace asked everyone to vote for Mandalor and they're not. My..concern I guess..is that they're not justifying their actions, just silently abstaining. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I honestly don't think that Pinkie (lol) is Mafia. His posts are fairly suspicious but it just doesn't connect for me Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: + Show Spoiler + Couldn't resist. We have to find some way to keep this bumped until night comes. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 14:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Wtf are you talking about you damn drunk? + Show Spoiler + see what i did there? Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Hey cool, what was your initial impression of me? btw, sick job on the lynching Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: haha sick, "hidden weapon against Mafia". Thanks Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Just to make this clear for me, you're saying that they'd pose as a Veteran in order to cast doubt on the real Veterans, in the hopes that a real one will get lynched and save them the hits? Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:06 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Ace, if there is a risk of someone (ie. you) getting lynched due to your plan, randombum can just pardon them (you) Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This part just made me think that you'd forgotten that the Pardoner role actually has some use I don't honestly think 4 votes will be enough to lynch you either. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:29 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Ace being roleblocked won't be an issue. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Waiiiiiiit a second. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: It would probably involve the KGB and thermonuclear weaponry. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I seriously wish this entire post would fit in my signature. I fear my profile is the next best option. brb, getting a Kleenex to wipe away the tears of laughter, which make this very hard to type. Posted in night7/main_page.129 Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oh yeah ShaLLoW[baY] Report # 23422 Signature changed, yadayada Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:42 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Mafia, I permit you to kill me as long as Chuiu writes my death into the post as an overdose of fellatio. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: We can theorize about sending them to some sort of place where they'd be isolated in their pens, some sort of Pen Island if you will. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 07:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I agree, the faster we lynch the scum, the faster I can get a role that can do something cool. Posted in night7/main_page.131 Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Alright. Send this PM if I die as well plz. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Why the fuck am I not invited. /w Mr.Pink yeah fuck up Ace he's not sharing the love. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:My hatred for Showtime! has subsided into a companionship of sorts Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: The post is currently shared by myself (resident troll) and Showtime! (resident drunk), along with Heros)Pink (resident..er..something). Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 14:06 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Don't worry, I'll turn on serious mode again once something happens in the game that is actually worth discussing Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Damn Chuiu, get well soon We're all rooting for you to kick the shit out of it. Posted in night7/main_page.134 Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I'd get a Detective to check your mother's role, that sounds distinctly Saboteur. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Hey, everyone's gotta do what they can to stay alive right? Like I said before, serious mode goes on come Day Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Does every Mafia player and their cousin make narrative writeups nowadays? Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Hey there precious, how'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie? Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Thoughts such as these are signs of a repressed and warped childhood. I don't even think the vibration would be enough to kill anything larger than a ferret. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:45 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I wasn't aware Afghanistan had the raw materials necessary to make a dildo of this size and horsepower. You can't make sex toys out of crude oil and sand. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 14:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: You fell into my trap! Someone with such MacGyver-like knowledge of constructing deathly implements from raw materials has to be Mafioso! ps. ahrara_, your picture in the Teamliquid Gallery had me quite convinced that you're not exactly Bin Laden. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:fanaticist, if you feel I'm so detrimental to my allies, vote to lynch me. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 05:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: By that token, anyone who votes for whom they were assigned is doing so "for the greater good of the town". I fully intend to vote for Suspect #1 when he's revealed, so obviously I'm not very detrimental to my allies if my actions are "for the greater good of the town". I also agree with araav's quote above. As much as I enjoy winning and keeping up my undefeated mafia streak, it IS a bit boring this way Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Like I said before, I do want to win. I just wish that I would have more of a role in this win than blindly voting for whoever Ace tells me too and cheering half heartedly when a Mafioso is caught, knowing I had absolutely nothing to do with it Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...topic_id=67925¤tpage=31#602 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=93#1850 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=93#1855 http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=94#1866 Your move chief. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Clues are definitely important, as most of them were written by Chuiu (and Dapperdan?) before there was any behavior from the players to be referenced. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 13:55 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Chuiu has a kidneystone. Dapperdan is AWOL. Chill. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 05:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Ok, only because you asked. Silly mafioso. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This seems like an obvious "bum" reference. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: This is recurring, it can't be a red herring. We need to look into these in more detail (the cutting power clues) Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I'm so fucking confused as to why the Mafia made our job easier by narrowing us down from 1/7 to 1/6. It defies all logic I can think of. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Six kills, one of which could be a vigkill as per suresh0t's post above. That's 3/4 kills from mafia successfully blocked or wasted. Not a total loss. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: His signature/quote or w/e. "I know where my towel is" I think it says. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: You can't delete Sent PM's. I vote for A EDIT: fucked up quoting bad, mod can confirm Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I think we should definitely get the Ghar severed head clue checked, and seeing I'm the only one who voted in Ace's minipoll it looks like it's happening. Posted in night7/main_page.158 Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I don't know why we're encouraging lynching a medic just because he's irritating, while at the same time not lynching Showtime! because he's irritating because we think he has a role. I'm keeping an eye on some people, that's for sure. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I suppose that his lack of cooperation with Ace isn't exactly good for our causes. I concede the point to you Lenwe In addition, I have investigated French_Toast's death by lawn dart, and have come across this disturbing rendition of the crime scene. + Show Spoiler + Posted in night7/main_page.159 Posted in night7/main_page.159 Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Stuff like this makes me wish the first Mafia thread was inducted into the TL Hall of Fame, rather than left to die in the Closed section Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I see Ace's genius plan. He's going to edit his post so that choice B reads "I am mafia lulz" and then lynch you guys who voted for it =) Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 08:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: He received a PM from Lucas. Last game, the rule was you could post after death as long as it wasn't game modifying/game related. This definitely is, and you should probably edit it out. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 08:52 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Just edit it out of all the quotes of him and we're fine. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Hahahaha now Pink is roleclaiming Paramedic in order to be saved from lynching Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:The two biggest Mafia suspects are telling us not to care. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:57 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:How did he get in? Any illicit means or did he just log-in or whatever. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I don't mind if he makes a third game, noone is fucking making you play it. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If this is what happened, them I'm afraid I have to agree. If he "hacked" in or use other illicit means then that's obviously another story. Posted in night7/main_page.164 Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: No we didn't. Unless of course it was made after I died and noone ever mentioned it. As far as I know we used PM's/MSN to communicate. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I saw rpf vote, he's just lurking quietly. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 07:02 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:What, no bel-air? Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:12 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Ace is mafia. I said it. Let's lynch the fucker. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 11:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Plexa obviously talking out of his ass, Mafia scumbag. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 11:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm trying to bring up thread activity, btw. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 12:04 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: That was linking to Quesadilla, actually Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: No I'm not dead, I just don't really feel like posting dumb crap and getting bitched at anymore. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:11 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Notice that my posts per week have gone down from around 342 to 64. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 07:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If you have nothing to hide then answer this honestly: Are you Mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 09:11 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Well that's settled then, let's lynch Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 15:11 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I'll admit it, your interpretations seem sound, except for the aforementioned fact that they refer to three different mafioso. Either you're mafioso trying to get rid of me, in which case I'm touched that you'd go through all this trouble, or you're a townie interpreting as you see best, which is commendable. I'm not mafia though, feel free to check me, although that would be a massive waste of a check considering we're down to one detective remaining. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 00:15 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oh God, I get serious for once and people shit bricks. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Changed after game started, interesting accusation from you Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:31 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Are you kidding me? Queasy is referred to in the clue about "strait to the heart", as he's the one doing it. He's dead and thus it can't refer to me. Yogurt was just getting started? Yogurt was a townie before he died; a Mad Hatter to be precise. Three different people, one a towny, one a confirmed mafioso, both of these two already dead. Yup, damning indeed. EDIT: What's this 12 clue anyways that's causing such a fuss? Posted in night7/main_page.205 Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Fair enough, I just don't want to get falsely lynched because of recurring typos. If I'm getting falsely lynched, at least let the "clues" be good Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 11:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:fusion, I would like to know why I'm a suspect. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:39 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:MTF, that is fucking sick Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:20 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Hahahaahh nice catch! How would he have known Caller was a Bodyguard though? I seriously would like to know where the Mafia are getting their information. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Apparently not. Something I found out during the whole strait/straight fiasco is that clues can refer to living people even if the person in question during/participating/doing the clue is dead. It was the reason people thought I was a suspect until Chuiu confirmed he can't type. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:05 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:BlindAlbino : The Little Mafia That Couldn't Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 14:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Chuiu, as payback to us for your late post, please conveniently forget to write my death into the upcoming post Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:MTF, I'm not doubting you, but could you remind me when I accused Lostyourskills? I honestly can't remember Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:fusion, you have to realize that I posted that in the beginning of the game, around when you were sending me those nonsensical PM's such as the ones I sent last game when I was Mafia. There's a reason I haven't accused you since. MTF, that wasn't so much of an accusation as pointing out that he's from Australia, but I get your drift (EDIT : To clarify, I'm saying this because, if he happens to flip town upon his possible death, I don't want to be seen as accusing him directly ) Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Also, fusion if age old accusations of you and Plexa arouse your interest: Bon appetit Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:01 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I think suresh0t is pretty high probability as well. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 07:24 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: He said it's close, as in the numbers are in close proximity to each other, as in the voting is close. In related news, Plexa is a fucking beast. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 14:48 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I agree, unless one of the Mafia's names is Mr. Carpet or there's someone with a tendency to blaze a fat joint before they kill, this doesn't help us much. Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 14:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Expect Notepad to be in the next Day post then. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 13:57 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Woah, Bockit, are you a new staff member? If so, what do you do? Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 01:41 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Oh God being Mayor would kill me, so much responsibility and the fact that everyone wants to lynch you whenever you make a mistake Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 09:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I was actually about to comment on this as well. I know that if someone was to accuse me I'd trip balls trying not to get lynched and to stop the town from making a mistake, however the mafia members seem very complacent when accused and don't put up much of a fight. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 11:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Fortunately, the rake penetration was too much for his system. Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 03:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:i vote for randombum PM's are an excellent method of votegetting Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I change my vote from Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 05:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I retract my vote for Ghar and abstain for the moment Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:25 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I vote to lynch Mandalor. I hope you know what you're doing Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I would like to request that anyone abstaining explain their reasoning in the thread. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:09 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I vote wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I abstain for now with my second vote Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I change my second vote from abstaining to a vote for Queasy Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 08:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I abstain for the moment Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 10:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:First vote : suresh0t Second vote : Siefu Vote Changes Below! (edit) Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:36 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I change my second vote from Siefu to Evilmonkey I'm trusting you Plexa EDIT : Another Vote Change Below! Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I change my first vote from suresh0t to Siefu. Sorry Chuiu, to make it easier for you, now I'm at : 1 - Siefu 2 - Evilmonkey Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 13 2008 08:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Damnit, the Make1337 tags must be glitchy, it didn't come out as "5|_||235|-|07" Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 07:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I vote to fuck L with a rake. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 18 2008 13:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:In case it wasn't clear, he's supposed to die from the rake-fucking. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 08:51 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If that happens, I'll reveal that it was the blunt end of the rake that you received anally. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 08:11 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:I vote Ace and Plexa. + Show Spoiler + FOR GRANDDADDIES OF SEXYTOWN Seriously, I vote to lynch L and ulszz Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 + Show Spoiler [ShadowDrgn] + 129. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:50 ShadowDrgn wrote:Sign me up. I'm a total lurker, but I do check the site daily and will participate. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:45 ShadowDrgn wrote:Are the Saboteur and Suicide Bomber included in the 20 mafia, or are there actually 22 mafia total? Do those two roles get to participate as normal in the mafia, and are the mafia aware of their roles? Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:14 ShadowDrgn wrote:Everyone's sigs can be found from the signup and their profiles from the OP. Putting them all together would be a lot of copy paste work. The clue that stands out the most to me is "either you're with us or you're permanently not" and from just looking at the sign up list, the statement seems like (94. unsoundlogic). He also has no sig, no profile, and few posts per week, meaning a clue made for him would have to come from his name. However, a more common form of that phrase such as "either you're with us or you're against us" would also be unsound logic so maybe there's something special in the words "permanently not." There's also (107. GrayArea) to consider for that clue (another person with no sig, profile, and few posts). Of course, the choice between two extremes leaves no gray area. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:39 ShadowDrgn wrote:In case anyone actually cares about the clues, here are my thoughts: Day 1 Clue: you get to taste lead for dinner Suspect: Caller Reason: Sig contains "lead" and other food items that could be related to "dinner" Clue: either you're with us or you're permanently not Suspect: unsoundlogic Reason: Clue contains unsound logic! Suspect: GrayArea Reason: Clue lacks a gray area. Clue: Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable Suspect: MidnightGladius Reason: Sig contains "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable" Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed Suspect: CDRdude Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off. Suspect: Ninja4ever Reasons: Ninja come out of nowhere! I think this connection is stronger than Dark Carnival does. Clue: [Dapperdan] met [King Brown Snake] face to face halfway Suspect HotZhot Reasons: Extremely weak, but his name sort of fits the description. His profile picture is a half-covered face too. Clue: Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. This seems like two separate clues ("automatically" and "being unarmed"), but I can't fit either of them to anyone. Clue: The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" Suspect: CTStalker Reason: Sig contains "I bear no grudge against you" plus the Wolf-Stalker connection. Credit to Dark.Carnival for this one - I think he's dead on. If we're going to lynch anyone based on clues, I think it should be CTStalker. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:47 ShadowDrgn wrote:Doesn't look like it's going to be possible to enforce the voting rule with 34 people unaccounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:30 ShadowDrgn wrote: The 'PM your role' plan isn't foolproof because there are many people with the same role and additionally, a few of each role will probably be inactive. For example, there are 7 paramedics. Odds are that 1-2 of them won't get the message that they're supposed to PM their role to Ace, which means the mafia is fairly safe having a member or two lie to Ace about being a medic. Even if Ace receives 7 or fewer medic PMs, he can't trust those people to not be mafia. If he receives 8+ PMs, at least one person is mafia, but 1/8 is a lower ratio than randomly guessing, and there aren't enough detectives to go around to ferret out that one liar. Either way, those people can't be trusted. The plan is more useful for limited roles such as the Mad Hatter. With only one of those left, the mafia would be taking a huge gamble to pretend to be that one. Vigilantes and Detectives are medium risk - pretending to be one could be a huge payoff if the mafia doesn't get caught and Ace trusts them, but also poses a high risk of being busted. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 13:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: Hollander has an Einstein quote in his sig. Einstein's goal was a grand unified theory of physics. If that's a clue, it's incredibly good and you're a genius Chezinu. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:01 ShadowDrgn wrote:Yogurt did the right thing. He could only plant one bomb a night but could remove them at any time so the best strategy was to plant a bomb on the most suspicious person, which was CTStalker. Yogurt being randomly killed and CTStalker being a Jack were both really bad luck, just like your lynching of incontrol. Good strategy, bad luck. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: The plan was for the detectives to check on Ace's role, and if he's mafia, to post as such. Since no detective has outed him as mafia, we can assume: 1) Ace is clean; or, 2) All of the detectives didn't get the message or decided not to check up on Ace AND Ace is mafia. Considering the unlikelihood of (2), it's relatively safe to assume (1). We're boned at this point if we're wrong anyway so just trust him. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 11:44 ShadowDrgn wrote:It'd be more helpful if you could vouch for him not being mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:25 ShadowDrgn wrote:Score! Awesome job on this one Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:32 ShadowDrgn wrote:Ace said there were a few role collisions so we'll hopefully have another guaranteed hanging or two next day without the need for guesswork. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:25 ShadowDrgn wrote: Maybe you should get yourself suspected of being mafia then. I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:42 ShadowDrgn wrote:[-/b-][-/b-] I'm not really lying low. I'm PDT and most of the activity in this thread happens while I'm at school or at work. I did some clue postings for day 1, but other people beat me to day 2 and I just didn't have anything constructive to add. Would you like to know that shotguns are my favorite FPS weapon? Not like Chuiu had any way of knowing that. The dragoon connection is really grasping - drgn is dragon, nothing more. Put useLess and I voting for different people and check one of the groups out if you want to be safe. I think it'd actually be better to check if one of the "useless mafia" clues point to him instead, but that's not 100% guaranteed. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 ShadowDrgn wrote: Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:21 ShadowDrgn wrote:I vote Ace for Mayor Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:50 ShadowDrgn wrote: The zeks-Spiderman connection was excellent, especially because it deflects suspicion from me on that clue. I vote for Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 15:22 ShadowDrgn wrote:Oops, I edited my post from page 2 instead of making a new one. Not like it mattered since Mandalor got rolled anyway. + Show Spoiler [Showtime!] + 122. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:13 Showtime! wrote:Count me in. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote:What I want to know is what the hell does he get out of doing all this for us? ._. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:59 Showtime! wrote:And that would mean he has to get the second most amount of votes, so he is well on his way. ;~ Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:34 Showtime! wrote:You should never jump the gun on anyone. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:35 Showtime! wrote: No, it isn't. The Mafia could just do the opposite. The Mayor could play them all for fools regardless. Who in their right mind would lie in a mass PM like that? It's stupid. Whomever is elected is going to have to switch up their strategy on the fly with very few people knowing. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:17 Showtime! wrote: That is obvious ban material. Get rid of him before he does damage to the game, or else we have to restart the game. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:26 Showtime! wrote:We're the mob. What do you expect? Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:10 Showtime! wrote:Emp, you didn't think I knew that already? Of course. You just wanted the POWA. But, yeah I must admit it was stupid of you to come out and confess. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:14 Showtime! wrote:It was a smart strategic move of you at the start, but not anymore pal. I might have helped cause the turnover. My bad. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:20 Showtime! wrote:I'll leave a red rose on his grave. Nah, really? What do you think is the mafia's best strategic move? Mass confusion. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:30 Showtime! wrote:Too bad I don't have any power because then I could avenge the loss of Empyrean. We're going to lose a good player early. -_- Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:27 Showtime! wrote:Inc hasn't even voted you goof. -_- I love how we have to make everything public. It's so grand! Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 Showtime! wrote:He hasn't voted therefore he is inactive therefore he isn't even in the game anymore considering voting has officially closed. Pick someone else. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:32 Showtime! wrote:lynch pinky. show some authoritay. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:34 Showtime! wrote:lynch c0bbler for telling you to lay off. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 Showtime! wrote:Next time how about you ask before you start wasting your powers? God -_-;; What a waste. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 Showtime! wrote:Considering Incontrol wasn't even active I think it would only be fair to give another townie the role of Mad Hatter. I could have given you five better picks than him. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:42 Showtime! wrote:The guy didn't even look to see who was active. Dumbest move ever. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:45 Showtime! wrote:Not only that he didn't even look to see who !@#$%! voted beforehand. He killed someone who wasn't even still in the game = uncool especially with all the damage he could have done. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:47 Showtime! wrote:I read all your lousy posts. Like I said I know of 5 people who would have been better. PM me. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote:I'm not announcing it public. The fact of the matter is you could have killed 3 for the price of one if incontrol was even playing. We need another mad hatter. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:50 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, like I want the mafia to know who I suspect. They're posting privately so I will as well. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote:I haven't verified your role in this so why should I? Ninja! Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 13:59 Showtime! wrote:I'm C. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote:Yeah because active people are more likely to be mafia let alone pissed off when their mayor votes out someone who wasn't even playing the damn game. Wake up people! On top of that why would I want the mafia to know whether or not I am on the right track in the first place? That is really smart. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:01 Showtime! wrote:I think you know more than you can chew nemY but what do I know? I'm Irish and drunk. Well, then send a detective and waste a turn on me for all I care. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote:hahaha read between the lines and you tell me who you think I'm accusing. How about em' apples? har har har Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:06 Showtime! wrote:I thought it was still St. Pat's = the official town drunk. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:08 Showtime! wrote:They did take out the biggest target per say. phat move Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:10 Showtime! wrote:ShaLLoW are you mad because I took over your role from the last game? I think someone needs a lollipop. Too bad I don't have any special powers. Oh, wait: to annoy! Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:15 Showtime! wrote:How many votes were there again? 111? Odds are almost the entire mob is playing. Didn't the organizer already say that he made a waiting list, so if people didn't vote or abstrain they would be in the game instead? In other words the other people got cut. Chances are it would have been better to go with a few other people's hunches or discussed it with the group first. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:18 Showtime! wrote:I don't care because I'm a townie like I said before and congratz. The sooner, the better because it would be another waste of a lynch and too be honest I don't think you have much of a prayer. Of course the saboteur would use it on the first night so you wouldn't be able to get one of them. It is basic logic you goof. The fact of the matter is you voted Inc with no ground or basis other than hanging low. If you read the rules you would have known he was already out of the game. Hence a waste, hence you could have used someone else's hunch. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:21 Showtime! wrote:The only players playing are those who voted or abstrained from voting. Read the damn rules, God. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:24 Showtime! wrote:let him be I find it quite amusing just ignore him if he bothers you that much you may very well be this game as well too bad I don't have any bombs to tie you up on Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:30 Showtime! wrote:ShaLLoW needs a kleenex box guys. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote:No, I'm third generation. No relation to the Black Donnelly's. First of all, get your facts straight: I'm the Town Drunk. I should be able to toss beer bottles at people or have the option of slipping a roofie into someone's drink rendering them useless for one night. That would be a cool role. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:41 Showtime! wrote:What good would that do though? I didn't know the Human Torch was in this game. FLAME ON!?!?!?! Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:09 Showtime! wrote:Right now, our job is to find some red. I don't care if I get lynched right now because I have minimal power, it would be a waste and to be honest this game could go on for a while considering we have over 100 people this time around it would get pretty time consuming reading up on everyone's posts but so far that is exactly what I did and I already told the authorities my thoughts. We just have to see if it works or not. Someone even said in the Q&A thread: 'I rather be Mafia because townie is boring.' Add some spice. Forgot to mention: Chuiu, I have a question for you. How do you regulate PMs? Couldn't someone who is dead or not even playing give their thoughts to help someone else? I see many loop holes here. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:19 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, that is simple math. On the other hand, look! We're already up to 77 pages and we haven't been through one day yet. Sucks if you have a weak role in all this. It just doesn't resonate the same. Besides, if the mafia decides to take out someone who is on the right track or is a good player what is stopping them from PMing advice to someone remaining in the game? Sure, you cannot post it public but someone else could be the mouthpiece. I just find it annoying. If every townie were to confirm their role with the mayor via PM then by the process of elimination it would make our lives a lot easier, but it would be a long process and worse yet if he is mafia well GG. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:22 Showtime! wrote:Question Mynock, why would anyone with a special role be so forthcoming in the first place? Of course it would be wise for the mafia to try and lynch them via vote instead of night. I'm going to stick with my strategy and hunches for now until proven otherwise. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:29 Showtime! wrote:qrs is right though because chuiu didn't take out the inactives yet meaning we cannot possibly know as of right now because it won't add up. Good point and good reason to keep them in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:33 Showtime! wrote:It still doesn't work Lucas because way too many people are inactive and it would take too much time. You wouldn't be able to measure it properly. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:43 Showtime! wrote:the greatest advantage we have with this is that Ace will know everyone who has a special role and then we could strategize a lot better via PM. This way the mob won't know what we're thinking and if they pick to go after the wrong 'goat' then they're screwed and called out. The mob wouldn't be dumb enough unless they were sending a sacrificial lamb to the slaughter to buy some time. If they pose as townies we still have a problem with all the inactives and the ratio is still too high. We need more clues. Yes I agree it is a waste of time, but you should still play your cards close to your sleeve so I see nothing wrong with PMing information you have. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:46 Showtime! wrote:Ok, just wanted to clarify. Hopefully everyone plays by the honor code then. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:57 Showtime! wrote:Empyrean was just aiming for power. Nothing wrong with that when you're stuck in a townie role and he's a pretty smart guy, so... I'd just let the mafia deal with him whenever they want for now at least. I'm going to wait until morning maybe I'll be dead and won't even have to worry about this crap anymore. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:39 Showtime! wrote:Guys instead of repeating the same junk how about everyone reads up on what is posted? I mean in some cases it is a matter of ten pages. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:42 Showtime! wrote:I'm talking about Lysithea. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:43 Showtime! wrote:Or how about you go get whacked nemY? ;p Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:19 Showtime! wrote:It was as if Incontrol didn't read up on all the rules beforehand. Ace is clean. Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote:Heroes. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 08:44 Showtime! wrote:your welcome feel free to add to the pile of barf anyway we have some direction now thank you for being so active y'all Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 08:50 Showtime! wrote:Naib, we better not find you sleeping in the same bed as Shallow's mom come morning that would really, really suck Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:53 Showtime! wrote: Or perhaps he is mafia trying to pose as one. Misdirection leads to direction. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:14 Showtime! wrote:We're onto him. Yes I just wanted to point it out again. Albino's are bad! :X Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:42 Showtime! wrote:It's Pinky and the Brain, Pinky and the Brain One is a genius and the other is insane to prove their mousy worth, they'll overtake the earth they're Pinky, Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain Narf!! No Hotbid, that would be just too convenient!! I think the Mr. Pink clue could also be directed to sexsexpussyhair as well. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:53 Showtime! wrote:Why are you digging yourself into a bigger hole Heros? One thing is certain, we need bigger clues. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:33 Showtime! wrote:Me too Empyrean. Join the family T.T Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:40 Showtime! wrote:No, but Empyrean is a sexy beast. They kill him off and then we're down one sexy beast. I mean w-t-f man! W--T--F. I should make a 'Pray for Empyrean' sign. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:43 Showtime! wrote:Yes, but we need to keep as many of our sexy beasts as possible. I mean we already lost an ultralisk! Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:00 Showtime! wrote:No one should be voting yet until we discuss our strategy. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:12 Showtime! wrote:kill the !@#$! Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:34 Showtime! wrote:Not all of the detectives checked in yet? GAY. Ace check your PMs. You must have around 30. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 13:54 Showtime! wrote:My thoughts exactly. We need to fry the bigger fish and Ghar isn't it. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:16 Showtime! wrote:Son aren't you supposed to be hanging low my main man? Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:17 Showtime! wrote:Yes, we know all Albino's are mafia. That is a given fact. Now sh! Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:28 Showtime! wrote:PM them ace. How much time do we have left until night? Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:33 Showtime! wrote:He usually gives us some warning in advance anyway, bah. We need to avenge some of our comrades. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:37 Showtime! wrote:But I want my vengeance now *pouts* A good defense is a good offense. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:07 Showtime! wrote:Link the clues into the player and then it is a process of elimination. Might have to waste a few detective questions though if there is nothing concrete. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:28 Showtime! wrote:NO, it's because we have bigger fish to fry. Posted in night7/main_page.108 On March 24 2008 05:20 Showtime! wrote:Ace, I already gave you my list. You know my answer. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:50 Showtime! wrote:I urge the people who signed up to play the game in the first place to get their act together and start playing. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 05:56 Showtime! wrote:No, Falcynn. We need to make sure our brain trust is intact first, so if something bad does happen we'll have a plan B, C and D. Right now, our first priority is to confirm those who have the biggest shoes to fill so we can make sure they're safe, it gives us many alternatives if someone else were to fall and to make sure there is no overlap. JeeJee, no. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:14 Showtime! wrote:Ace it isn't only that but if you look at their timezone I know it's 'Easter Sunday' but me thinks they are lurking!! JeeJee, no. In some cases that is all that needs to be said. Minerals it is possible because not everyone has fessed up yet or so we're led to believe. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:22 Showtime! wrote:Agreed. It is very important to bring down their kill count. I hope we're right on this one. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:27 Showtime! wrote:Don't question it. Just do it. I'm sure he'll give everyone an explanation after. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:43 Showtime! wrote:good grief. finally we got mr. smiley face red handed!! go go go Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote:At the very least we can say we avenged Mynock. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:46 Showtime! wrote:yeah almost 10PM there. i meant to say 11. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 07:01 Showtime! wrote:Someone's sarcasm detector isn't working. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:29 Showtime! wrote:Chuiu, I have another question for you! Scenario 1: What happens when a Vigilante and a member of the mafia target each other on the same night? Do they both die a painful death or is it a coinflip? Scenario 2: What happens if two mafia attack the Vigilante? Does the Vigilante get the kill on the mobster he originally targeted and then die at the hands of the other mafia member? I'm assuming the double team negates it and the Vigilante just dies, which would be pretty sad. Scenario 3: what happens if by chance a paramedic is watching him/her? Do they survive the attack and get the kill on the mafia member they originally targeted? Could the Vigilante survive a double team attack and still get away with the kill? Sorry to be a pain in the arse and I know the chances of this are slim, but I just thought it would be a good question to ask. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:37 Showtime! wrote:Ah, crap. Thanks for the clarification Shallow. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:40 Showtime! wrote: Yeah, I just wanted to clarify every scenario again to make sure and I already knew about the list so. It just dawned on me. I agree with French_Toast on that. I say we chop off his head like Medieval Times and because they blew off Mynock's head. It's either that or we bunker rush the German ;s Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:14 Showtime! wrote:no shit, he pretty much gave it away. This is what the PM is for people. Wake up. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:26 Showtime! wrote:Answers should be PMed. Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:59 Showtime! wrote:vigis should be checking in. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:14 Showtime! wrote:As long as it fits into the rules of the game it isn't cheap. It isa double-edged sword because there are ways around it for the mafia to create confusion and buy time for themselves at the same time. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:25 Showtime! wrote:What gives you any authority to say that oh wise one? There are many references that could link Ghar to Eddie. There is no denying it. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:47 Showtime! wrote:He's from Germany so he's probably asleep. 0cz3c he can be linked to only one of Chuiu's clues. I'll let you do the rest of the math. Well, actually we had two things on him Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:37 Showtime! wrote:We already know who Mr. Pink is. The hard one's are Mr. Brown and the T. Snake. There are too many leads. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:40 Showtime! wrote:No, it takes a world class idiot to pretend to be a detective when they aren't because there are so many ways you can verify it. =) Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:44 Showtime! wrote:The picture says all. Chuiu couldn't have been more helpful. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:25 Showtime! wrote:Plexa you missed one thing. What is he wearing on his suit jacket? ;p Heros is bait. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:27 Showtime! wrote:They aren't we're fine as we are right now. He's just flapping. Plexa PINK RIBBON, BREAST CANCER ANYONE? The election ribbon he's wearing could easily be tied to the ribbon for breast cancer research. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:29 Showtime! wrote:Too bad you cannot just buy one. I'm the town drunkard. He's the town idiot. Isn't it a wonderful life? Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:35 Showtime! wrote:it can mean more than one thing. People wear those 'ribbons' in elections all the time and it could also pass as the pink ribbon, or even blue ribbon as well. Not just the red, white and blue. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:38 Showtime! wrote:Why would I vote for a mafia mayor? I suspected him of being Mafia a long time ago. I guess Ace and I will have to have a drinking contest then to settle this once and for all. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:13 Showtime! wrote:What did you expect? Regular townies still have a lot of input and of course it will be a little boring for regular townies. We have to vote on the process of elimination and sure bets. Smarten up. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:22 Showtime! wrote:Ohhh we still have E-Drama this game. Have you been watching? What's wrong with playing a perfect game rather than a half-assed one? It takes a shitload to organize and even then it doesn't take much for the mafia to turn it around. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:26 Showtime! wrote:Not to mention the quicker we trap them the better because then we can start a new game and those who were regular townies get the chance to have a special role. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 16:01 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, they already made a few mistakes. We have another three more lined up ready to kill. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 21:55 Showtime! wrote:Hell no. We should be allowed to PM as well. It's all about balance and no that would be a big waste of investigations right now. We have a lot better leads. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 22:14 Showtime! wrote:yeah, he needs to know who the vigilante's are so he can give them their assignments. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:55 Showtime! wrote:No it isn't. It is their job to ask these questions to help us narrow down our search. I think we've made amazing progress so far. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:23 Showtime! wrote:yes I told you I suspected at least one trying to run for mayor! Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:20 Showtime! wrote:It is still pretty helpful when they lie about being a vet/medic because it really narrows the search down. It would have been a lot harder if they were posing as a regular townie, or someone who pretends to be inactive because those ratios are ten times higher. Ace doesn't have to disclose any information to the vets or medics, so it's fine. They are only damaging themselves because they have become primary targets for investigation. We have far more info from the clues and other subtleties on other mafia members to lynch/execute them already. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:58 Showtime! wrote:Ha. Bloody unlikely for us to lynch a vet until we have ample proof that they are lying and that is a lot easier than you may think!! His name leaves nothing to the imagination shallow. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:09 Showtime! wrote:No, you need a Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:12 Showtime! wrote:No, by making that public you are giving the mafia a list of people who they need to target and why would we want to do that? Let those who have the proper protection address the public. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:29 Showtime! wrote:We're talking about two different things. By posting your top five suspects you might as well put a bullseye on your back at the same time if you are on the right trail. What reason would the mafia have keeping you alive? Those people are useless to us if they die. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:09 Showtime! wrote:True. Good idea, but by doing this we won't win in record time. TT Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 04:25 Showtime! wrote:Perhaps. They might roleblock randombum and attempt to vote you out, no? lol which would be stupid because then we'll know who the mafia is ha! It is almost guaranteed. They will roleblock you again Ace. So 1) we cannot double lynch, 2) kill your voting power. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:34 Showtime! wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot about that Shallow. Good point, nevermind then. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:04 Showtime! wrote:I wouldn't expect the mafia to hit any of those in the first place. We're guaranteeing the 'actives' safety to a certain extent. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:12 Showtime! wrote:Thing about that is some of our main suspects aren't on those lists. We're trying to narrow it down more and hell, it's a way to protect actives. Its possible that we have 14 mafia members already figured out if our suspicions are correct. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:18 Showtime! wrote:yeah, the odds aren't in their favor. I'm still kind of weirded out by this mafia list thing and how it works exactly. So they are allowed to provide a list of 9 people to target? Lets say they pick 5 or even 3. So if they pick five how does the split work? Does the person at the list pretty much automatically die if they push all their members on them if they have protection? If it's three well shit son I guess all three would die because you would have at least 6 on one person. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:24 Showtime! wrote:ah I see now I get it. Cool. That makes life a lot easier shit. Mafia is pretty much screwed then. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:26 Showtime! wrote:That was too funny. Haha Shallowbay. ;p Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote:I lol'ed. Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?' Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc. Necrophilia loving. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:40 Showtime! wrote:Too bad Mora isn't playing <3 Mora | ||
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122. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:46 Showtime! wrote:Which one is it baby? Spitz or Swallows? Yeah, but we at least have 6 more to identify. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:06 Showtime! wrote:Awww I wanted to call it 'No mafia in my house plan' or MILF - 'Mafia is losing, fuckers' Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:15 Showtime! wrote:PMing. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 07:40 Showtime! wrote:I don't think we should drag this game out an extra day if we don't have to. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:52 Showtime! wrote:I call bullshit on Amber and Caller. We have 7 paramedics, 7 bodyguards and a Jack as well. We have more than enough protection right now. If any Mafia wants to dance they can dance with me. I really wish we would get the greenlight to kill off those who deserve to die right now and bring down their power asap. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:58 Showtime! wrote: Are you kidding me? If the Mad Hatter listens to those above him and manages to put those bombs on our top suspects we're laughing. You are talking about 6 justifiable kills man. People have to die. If we get 2-6 mafia kills out of it. It is well worth the trade off. If anything I think the Mad Hatter is too strong given they get enough time to place their bombs. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:21 Showtime! wrote:Here Mafia, mafia!! YOUUUUUUUUU WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Catch me if you can!! Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:47 Showtime! wrote:Perhaps they're a bunch of gay robots. Heh, heh. Good times. Heh, heh. Cannot touch this!! Amber what the hell have you been smoking?!?! I need some of that. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 11:58 Showtime! wrote:I DRINK BECAUSE I'M UNHAPPY! AND I'M UNHAPPY BECAUSE I DRINK!! *** Lucas, I'm going to share a secret with you. Come closer. Closer, c-l-o-s-e-r my child Listen.. Just listen. Listen closely. The Mafia, the Mafia is the g-e-y!! *** It took me about five days of mediation and drinking to come to this conclusion. Use it well. Yeah that was a pretty dumb move Emp. I have no idea what they are thinking. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:03 Showtime! wrote:Point well-made. Yeah there are too many townies for it to do any good. They obviously are trying to aim for a blue and Emp even came clean and said he was a regular townie. Those idiots!! Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:05 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, he's pretty stubborn. Just like me!! 8D He wants every convict to be 100% confirmed before we do anything. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote:BUT I WANT TO GET DIRTY TONIGHT. OH WAIT, THEY'RE ONTO ME!! Ninja mode on. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:46 Showtime! wrote:Shallow because you and I are both being taken out tonight fellatio style. Damn gay robots. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:48 Showtime! wrote:Dude, those are men. Watch out for the Mai Thai's. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:58 Showtime! wrote:Because he is a ninja from the land of sexsexpussyhair where are the gay robots can roam free and enjoy free Mai Thai prostitutes. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:02 Showtime! wrote:oh snap! KILL KILL KILL THE WHITE MAN. Oh wait he is Phill-o-pinooooooooo. Just kill him already. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 14:17 Showtime! wrote: It's a Canadian thing. You'd never understand and shhh Shallow. We don't want them suspecting us of being one of them!! Seriously, who wants to be a Gay Robot?! Not me!! That's too bad Chuiu. Get well soon. Something tells me it is going to be a loooonnnnng night. Sleep with one eye open. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:22 Showtime! wrote:No but I heard pounding beers back doesn't hurt. You might want to try it sometime. Oh, wait you're in the States and you only have Miller Lite and Budweiser which tastes like piss water. Get a bottle of Jacks and swallow her down. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 22:05 Showtime! wrote:KILL THE !@#$! He's one of them. Let him bleed!! KILL the PILIPINO!! If you aren't with US you are ONE of THEM, ONE of THEM!! Ninja star attack!! Because Plexa if it isn't him then it is only two other people. We've narrowed it down and if he wants to be a little bitch, well to be frank he deserves to get his teeth kicked into the curb like the rebel he is! Communists for the win! Fascists for the win! Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:15 Showtime! wrote:No, it doesn't take away from the game because as a regular townie you can still post, PM clues and shit like be part of the strategy, you stubborn dingbat. Wow, some people. I guess we won't set a new record then for 100+ players in record time then. I say we kill all 4 leads because we're better off with out those dumbfucks and their E-Drama. We need those who will work with us, not against us. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:55 Showtime! wrote:Oh no he didn't! He did, he did. :o Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:10 Showtime! wrote:WURM MUST DIE! DIE, DIE, DIE!! The fact he never confirmed his identity with Ace and blindly saved someone on the first day doesn't ADD UP! DIE, DIE, DIE!! He's a terrorist! He must gooooooooooooooooooo! Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:53 Showtime! wrote:NO PILPINO sounds better :D!! You are such a Phillips head. I was going to call you a towel, but Phillips head sounds better. Stop grinding my gears you terrorist! Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:57 Showtime! wrote:No, you're a towel. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 00:40 Showtime! wrote:Naib are you mafia too? Thanks for the info. I already have enough on me tonight. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:43 Showtime! wrote:I have to agree with Ace on this one. If he really is a medic he is a dumb one at that. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:05 Showtime! wrote:yeah, he did blurt it out. Kind of stupid. I forgot who it was. Yet I had to ask Ace whether or not he was trusted, lol. Wow, I just had a blonde moment. I'm waiting for night. I know I'm already dead. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:20 Showtime! wrote:No, he's just trying to start shit. Got to love the E-Drama a good old game of Gey Mafia brings. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:53 Showtime! wrote:Um, we have a lot more than just 2 verified. lol Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 03:14 Showtime! wrote:Maybe no one has any trust in you fanatacist to be divulging any info to you. Like I said before, I know the mafia is going to try and hit me tonight. I've done more than my fair share to help the Town win tyvm. The clues Chuiu gave us have been extremely helpful and I have given more than a few people my list of 9-14 names. If clue detecting isn't your thing leave it to someone else. Either way those people are going to get exposed soon. Ace even said, "Tomorrow shit will really hit the fan." I couldn't agree anymore. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:52 Showtime! wrote:no shit, use your head fuck, I thought I had cottonmouth. God damnit, back to the drawing board. T_T Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:31 Showtime! wrote:Oh for fucks sake stop spamming useless banter Pink!! YOU AREN'T HELPING THE CAUSE!! I vote PINKY and the BRAIN to die!! Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:36 Showtime! wrote:You-- you and your cotton-faced mouth. Why I ought to.. I ought to.. have another beer!! Maybe my death will be less painful if I'm drunk. "Don't worry! You'll only feel a pinch!" Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 11:42 Showtime! wrote:I'm the Brain. Of course you do Pinky. Can you speed this up please? Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:02 Showtime! wrote:I think he's drunk too. Hey, hey, hey Pink, I think we figured out who the Narc is this game. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:56 Showtime! wrote:Yeah what he said. KILLLLLLLLL HEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR. KILL HER. HANG HER NOW PLEASE. HANNNNG HHHHHHEEERRR Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:09 Showtime! wrote:If that is the last defence of the mafia then they just failed. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 16:24 Showtime! wrote:You are blinder and dumber than I thought. bye bye kiwi. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 20:24 Showtime! wrote:First of all, I don't have to post shit in response to your retardness because why would I plant anything in the mafia's head? Do you think I'm stupid? Get your head out of your ass. You really couldn't buy a clue. :. you must be mafia. You have no idea of who my suspects are dumbass. Do you honestly think I would post my elaborate plan for the public? I don't think so. I'm glad you're going to be gone soon. Naaaa, naaaa, na, naaaa, naaaa, naaaa, heeeeey, heeeeey, heeeeey goooood-bye! Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 20:44 Showtime! wrote:Our illogical Kiwi friend --> it goes back quite a few pages. Now then, if any more 'rebels' want to fire more blanks in the dark --> get a clue beforehand because it's very unlikely you know our agenda. In other words (for those who are slow around here), if all you do is read this thread then you probably have no idea what's really going on behind the scenes. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 20:53 Showtime! wrote:I don't care if you are annoyed. Somethings are better off not knowing and considering this NZer is talking out of his ass I think everyone deserves to know it. It isn't my fault if an idea is beyond someone's grasp. I'm not here to tutor nor am I here to give a leg up on the competition. Why in the blue hell would we do that? Either way, I'm probably dead come morning and by the time this game is over you'll probably think I was a Saint. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:48 Showtime! wrote:He was obviously drunk. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:41 Showtime! wrote:Oh snap!! Look who's still alive and nice try >;D Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:56 Showtime! wrote:Thanks to the mafia you made our lives a lot easier by killing a few of those guys off. Taken off suspect list. So many clues to work with now and no Ace. I wish one of the mafia had the baseball bat because then I would KNOW who one of our snakes are but bleh. The towel reference is easy to. HM... let's see. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:07 Showtime! wrote:Yes that is what I was saying it doesn't help us that much at all. Same with the baseball bat. Someone here likes a baseball team called the ________ Cobras in Asia. At least I think I found two of our snakes, but I could be wrong. Ace its time for us to fight back man. I'm mad and I think we missed one of our targets last night. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:10 Showtime! wrote:It's either that or Ace still has a snake in the inside. It has to be one of the paramedics. Fuck, I'm mad at wurm right now. We have some house to clean. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:14 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, looks like we'll have to go with Plan C. Got to thank the Mafia for one thing and one thing only. They made our double lynch a lot easier today. I think we're going to have to get a IRC channel to discuss our next course of action. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:19 Showtime! wrote:yup, we wasted a kill. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:22 Showtime! wrote:Nah, really. Ace already knows what to do with him. I wish we went for x instead of y. I knew it. We didn't have the right ratio. -_-;; Talk about being over ambitious. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:25 Showtime! wrote:I think I know who Black is, but I've been wrong before. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:30 Showtime! wrote:Not bad. Might be a good lead, but I have two other people who fit the description better. I was waiting for someone to try and make that connection to me. Got to becareful. The clues Chuiu leaves can go both ways sometimes. I already made that mistake. Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:35 Showtime! wrote:Haven't I already stated that? Anything I post public is going to be awfully generic so no one knows if I'm on the right trail unless I'm told otherwise by someone higher up. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:49 Showtime! wrote:ah, I thought I already said it would be much appreciated because it would make my life a lot easier. Please do. Helps me in my research. The problem with that statement is that it can fit more than a few people still. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:55 Showtime! wrote:Case in point, don't look for the obvious. I've already made that mistake this game. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:57 Showtime! wrote:Dude we made that connection on the first day... LOL I think someone already did that. Wasn't a Falcynn or Shallow? Naruto is worth investigating, ninja is a stretch because it sounds a little too obvious. What about those who appear to be highly inactive like DTDominion being tied to Eddie or some shit like that? Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:00 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, I think they're just firing at will hoping to get lucky. To answer your question random I'm treating this like a IRC channel until you guys make one so we can discuss it there -_- Ace I think we should do the three group thing man. I want to pin point those bastards in 1 day rather than 3. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:13 Showtime! wrote:you guys gave me a ton of shit to think about in my sleep... Mandalor I believe was Mr. Brown aka Mr Smiley Face aka stole Mynock's shotgun the fucking bastard. -_- The mob gave me a lot to think about. Every suspect appears to be a coin flip right now, which pisses me off. wurm damn you for trying to screw us over and medics check in please. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 21:12 Showtime! wrote: Learn to fucking read. Now go back a few pages, read what I said and then stfu. It's people like you who make the world go round you stupid towelhead. And to aavar leave the clue detecting to the smart people because it sounds like you're on a wild goose chase that is leading to nowhere. Who knows? Perhaps you are mafia because almost all of your targets have been ludicrous, but it helps because I know of more than a few people who are trying to swing votes around to the town. Keep it up, easier to catch you. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 22:44 Showtime! wrote:That isn't an insult. I could do far worse, but I shall refrain. Good thing we won't have to deal with your banter any longer after today. You have neglected your role this game :. you must pay Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:23 Showtime! wrote:Ace I think it's time we schedule that meeting. I don't want Lucas' death to go in vain. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:26 Showtime! wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 05:32 Showtime! wrote: no, he's allowed to let me know that he protected me last night and he did. That isn't against the rules. Bah, triple post. I have to catchup with today's events though. The stupidity of some people is baffling. fanatacist you are right on the money. No point on hiding it now because I know I'm one of their top priorities now. Ace can we setup that meeting now and get rid of all the turds sitting in on the discussion? Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:18 Showtime! wrote:Once you get home check the channel. We need all the foot soldiers in there. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 11:44 Showtime! wrote:I have a big fucking complaint which might get this game closed. Our 'programmer' from Armenia decided to take it upon himself to infiltrate a chatroom where many of our key players were located. :. he knows many of our key players and this is just down right wrong. We might have to re-start the bloody game now. This is obviously against the rules. I'm down right pissed. Ban araav please you unethical bastard. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:56 Showtime! wrote:No, it is an unfair advantage to use something like that and it is fucking unethical. It is one thing to pose as a blue it is a totally different thing to enter a chatroom where the mod is afk as well as others. It was a boneheaded move and play. The fucking guy is 30-years-old and should know better. How mature. I know... lol, look ghar we know you are mafia, we know he is and fuck to hell with it I think it is safe to assume I now have 10 of you. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:00 Showtime! wrote:the guy deserves to be banned period no discussion you can say whatever you want in a public forum. anything goes i personally don't care but when you take it upon yourself to hack a private chatroom that is unacceptable. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:04 Showtime! wrote:wurm none taken at all, you think I'm being serious when I post publicly? ;o however it does take the fun out of the game when someone takes it upon themself to ruin it by being somewhere they aren't supposed to be outside of this community. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:12 Showtime! wrote: wurm sorry but i just spoke with ace and he never gave you the channel nor did he give every medic the channel either so the guy broke in. in fact none of the medics know of it, so i don't buy that for one second. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:17 Showtime! wrote:i told them not to falcynn. i'm basically the only one who isn't going by my tl.net name but it is pwed now and shit. On top of that it was very well hidden or so believed. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:23 Showtime! wrote:there is no leak. the medics simply don't know the chan. only 100% verified people and key players or strategic minds. his response will probably go something like this: "i have no life." Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:43 Showtime! wrote:considering none of us gave it to him and the guy took it upon himself to break in he has officially ruined the game. Oh well, we'll suck it up and find a way to win I guess, but that is total balls. Hopefully an Admin will ban him period, but I would like an explanation beforehand as well. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:46 Showtime! wrote:I agree, I think it would be nice if the town got something in return though like being allowed to kill off 4 of their top suspects regardless if they are mafia or townie. I think that would only be fair considering araav has a pretty sick list. Regardless of his role in the game, he was probably going to hijack the game anyway. Just look at the guy's platform for running for mayor. lol Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:54 Showtime! wrote:already have plexa i guess we should get someone to crack their channel as well this isn't a game of war this is a game of who can hack first now ho ho ho I'll ask around Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:11 Showtime! wrote:yeah, that's what I thought too heh. Just read Emp's blog on it. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:26 Showtime! wrote:throwing a fit? lol i guess we have different definitions of that, but if you read up on what we said, no there is no internal leak. We've already covered that ground like i said before all it does is ruin some of the fun for people and i don't know why we would want to keep someone around like that. Logs can only prove so much. What he did was gey but it's time to move on. I already asked chuiu if i was allowed to pull a few moves that were somewhat out of the box (I thought it would be fair to bait the mafia out by providing a key suspect list to both chuiu and ace and once i was killed off a detective would be able to ask how many people on my list were mafia -- i would only be able to use the top five names on my suspect list) and he said no. You have to ask these sort of things beforehand and i wanted to make sure it was within the rules, but he said he didn't want to give the detectives any extra power. Too bad it would have made our detectives lives a lot easier by sacrificing me. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:31 Showtime! wrote:read my post again, i just edited it. bum like i said before it was pretty well hidden for him to find it. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:02 Showtime! wrote:already did but some of you keep bringing it up trying to gain more info than what was told and looooooooooooool at alethios smarten up, don't make it any more obvious that you are mafia. we already got that bit about 15 pages ago. keep it up, adds to the humour of your situation ahrara_ that was only one thing i wanted to try; you must admit it is fairly similar to asking how many mafia voted for ghar, or mandalor and no you missed the point. Ace and I both gave a detailed description of it. I didn't see anything wrong with it at the time but yeah it does up a detectives powers per say. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:05 Showtime! wrote: i just had to point this out again. my God, how do you sleep at night? Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:04 Showtime! wrote: Oh wait someone else told him First of all, I don't take anything anyone says seriously here so don't worry about offending me at all. I'm going to help you out on this one. Lucas got killed last night. If you look on the first page you'll notice he was a paramedic. Chuiu sends every player a PM saying whether or not you took a hit last night and a paramedic saved you. He's a blue. We only sent out one vig. last night against shadowdrgn. :. it is impossible for me and lucas to be mafia Are we on the same page now? I call bullshit on araav I would have not brought this up if he the dick didn't try to pull such a bullheaded move. We have the logs. I haven't left and besides that yes it was well-hidden now get your heads out of your asses and araav smarten up. A detective would have TOLD you already if Ace was Mafia. They're always the first person to get checked and thanks for making us waste a role-check on you araav you stupid nitwit. Next time you want to feel apart of something how about this: go outside and get some fresh air you wasted a shitload of time and resources Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:32 Showtime! wrote:Maybe you should take your own advice for once and stop trolling. Seriously though, I would settle this person to person because some people just deserve a beating. Stupid Armenians. I already had to deal with one before and stop pretending to be the village idiot because we all know you were there hackz. I'm finished with you and your gey antics. Go find some kleenex because nobody likes you. cry baby and learn english - it is demeaning Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:56 Showtime! wrote:rofl go get a life i find it funny that someone would lie about something so trivial. it is stupid townies that are slowing us down. we already wasted two rolechecks on people -- i always figured the guy was clean and i never put him on my list especially considering chuiu didn't want to do anything about it in the first place = dead giveaway. the guy really must have no life what a sad little, little man i'm starting to feel sorry for the guy - his buttons are way too easy to push Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:09 Showtime! wrote:i agree, we need people to switch their votes. By voting on both they're screwing up the data. I guess the mafia's plan was to copy the strategy from last game and let the town do all the damage to themselves again. good show, good show. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:16 Showtime! wrote:Give me your email and I'll send you the file. We have to make sure you aren't mafia first. -_- Actually I'll post it once the game is over and we already know araav's role and yet he still wants to lie about hanging out in our channel and not saying anything for a good 7 hours lol Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:28 Showtime! wrote:The fact chuiu didn't want to do anything about him in the first place should have been a dead giveaway. He didn't even give it a second thought. Agreed Kau. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:53 Showtime! wrote:feels the <3 if you couldn't tell already part of my strategy was to get on everyone's nerves looks like it worked!! vote me for president - it doesn't matter anyway because our core has my hitlist anyway so GG mafia and now I'm ten? FYI 26 it's only a game get a grip proof comes out once this game ends Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:57 Showtime! wrote:no so far kau they're all townies and you guys keep forgetting something - i could just get pardoned by randombum all you guys are doing is wasting more time and proving me right again keep going after townies while the mafia looks on which is really smart - some of you really need to learn to lighten up a bit it's kind of sad at this rate all the mafia have to do is sit back and bust out the popcorn. They could probably get away doing this for maybe 5 games and they'll keep winning this way IQ of the town hmmm! this is why i don't post anything public Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 01:14 Showtime! wrote:yes but we're wasting a double lynch my fellow Canucker. We've wasted enough time on 'stupid' regular townies, it's kind of stupid to waste more on another 'stupid' one, or so everyone outside of the core thinks here's the catch - we've wasted a few role checks on players we shouldn't have to question in the first place. Our detectives shouldn't have to deal with this crap. Oh well, I'll let the town destroy itself once again\ qrs - you missed the point, i'll let you try to figure that one out yourself considering so far your interpretation of clues have been laughable at best. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:52 Showtime! wrote:I have an idea: For extra-motivation I would like to place bets with other regular townies. This is how it works: you place your wager, it can be anything!! i.e. paypal money bet, quote bet, profile bet, etc. Both betters must submit a suspect list of 20 players they believe to be mafia. At the end of the game when all the mafia are revealed, the person with the most correct wins. Fairly simple no? The bet is only valid if the two betters are townies. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:02 Showtime! wrote:Ace confirmed it. A number of other people will be able to as well once the game is over. I'm not going to discuss this again. Wait until the game ends and we'll give you guys our logs. araav take my bet then unless you are scared you numbskull Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:10 Showtime! wrote:ok cool ghar we can wait another night for more clues to be revealed if you want if i'm dead i'm not allowed to post my list public and the lists are supposed to help everyone -.- Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:18 Showtime! wrote:yes random that was my first thoughts as well. I think it was blind luck. I need clarification right now on ghar. We need to get out of the crap shoot. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 02:58 Showtime! wrote:Ace, you might want to re-post the plan again man. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:17 Showtime! wrote:thanks for the little write-up. Perhaps you should be spending more of your time playing the game? Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:24 Showtime! wrote:i didn't read all of it but from what i read it was hilarious and aye valiance everyone knows i'm not mafia anymore so there is no point for me trying to misdirect, create confusion and post random shit i liked it more when i had those opportunities bah i miss doing all the gey shit Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:33 Showtime! wrote:hey man, i've been hanging relatively low for the last while now. the only thing I bothered pursuing was this araav bs, but we're done with that Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:44 Showtime! wrote:oh noes someone's water just broke! is it a boy or a girl? why don't you ask CD considering he has so much time to go through every single page of my posts and maybe he'll fill you in on how many posts per page I have They have been declining because of PMs and other shizzie to my nizzie holla holla ok back to work we need more shallow and pink in here i'll leave it to them to go where i left off Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 09:06 Showtime! wrote:nope wrong and thanks for the love again I'm easily amused by all this you guys are complaining i'm an attention whore yet you keep on giving me more attention? <3 the irony and thanks for all the extra attention! as incontrol would say just let it goooo Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 02:09 Showtime! wrote:Yeah, I thought Ace mentioned that earlier to everybody, but I guess nobody caught it Heee's baaaack. Just like me BD We were trying to beat London's Guinness World Record for Biggest Pub Crawl in Canada It was siiiiiiiick ok so it looks like pink, ghar and chezinu are the only ones who want in on the choose your poison bet game. For those who haven't heard about it: Prove your street cred!! Come up with a list of 20 people you think are mafia and challenge anyone in the game to come up with a better one. Place the stakes: it can be anything! A sig. bet, money, etc. These bets will be made public to everyone for their viewing pleasure. Once the game is over and all the mafia are revealed, the person with the most right wins only if they aren't mafia. You have to both be a regular townie. Note: this is how I found out Ghar was innocent to a certain extent -_- R.I.P. Ghar BTW I thought Ace already made it apparent as to why wurm was lynched. It was because he wasn't cooperating and working with us, but against. I guess you could say he wanted to make an example out of him. A few people were in disagreement on this issue, but what's done is done. It's the town that is holding us back just like the last game, so hopefully now everyone will like to cooperate more. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 06:25 Showtime! wrote:suresh0t, yes pm your list and are you challenging me? what's the wager? I guess we should leave all lines open until after night 3 so everyone has the same clues to work with. It is safe to assume he's clean. The DT who was supposed to investigate Ghar never checked in I think. :/ Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 21:48 Showtime! wrote:I vote Empyrean for Mayor! Lead us to victory oh chosen one! Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:32 Showtime! wrote:I withdraw my vote for Empyrean. Instead I vote for Randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:14 Showtime! wrote:I abstain until we hear from Ace as well. Need confirmation on a few things. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:25 Showtime! wrote:I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 21:26 Showtime! wrote:I vote for wurm because he must be the dumbest person on the face of the planet, he's committed treason and for that he deserves to hang even though he may be a blue -- we have no use for scum like you on our side and we want to narrow our search down. Bosses orders now gtfo and stop wasting our damn time. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 00:51 Showtime! wrote:second vote is for ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:09 Showtime! wrote:i abstrain my second vote as well + Show Spoiler [SiZ.FaNtAsY] + 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:14 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:Oh my god 49 pages already What page does the game start? Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:38 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:I will Abstain + Show Spoiler [Siefu] + 80. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:01 Siefu wrote:zzzzzz 11 pages of theorycraft and the game hasn't even started yet... Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 21:24 Siefu wrote:Here's the only clue interpretation I've picked up, and not a very strong one at that. "He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving..." This can be related to butidigress's quote: 89-butidigress Display Name : butidigress Birthday : June 10, 1990 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 10th of March 2008 Quote : between the click of the light and the start of the dream ... Turning on the light and seeing Mr. Blonde. Also, the common thing a 'towny' would say or think when this kinda shit happens IRL (This can't be happening/This must be a dream/etc.) I currently do not know who to vote for. I will look through the thread and make up my mind later. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 17:36 Siefu wrote:In Ace we trust. God bless Liquidia. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:55 Siefu wrote:'my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink' hmm, maybe someone with a low post count? Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 12:04 Siefu wrote:Hey I died. Sorry I couldn't keep up with the thread, with uni and tests and whatnot. Would have contested my innocence if I knew I was being lynched but I doubt people would listen to me over Ace. Anyway, gl town! Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:17 Siefu wrote:I vote for Plexa because he owned me in sc a long time ago... >_> Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:35 Siefu wrote:I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:59 Siefu wrote:I change my vote from abstaining to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 12:55 Siefu wrote:I abstain from voting for the time being. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 20:00 Siefu wrote:I change from abstaining and use my first vote on wurm and my second vote on Queasy. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 21:54 Siefu wrote:I abstain for the time being. + Show Spoiler [So no fek] + 9. So no fek Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 03:43 So no fek wrote:I vote randombum for mayor. + Show Spoiler [SoMuchBetter] + 2. SoMuchBetter Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 13:51 SoMuchBetter wrote:what happens if a suicide bomber tries to hit the pardoner/mayor while the guards are alive? will you just reject it, does he die without doing anything or will he kill the bodyguard/s? also is he restricted to doing it at night, or can he do it whenever? Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:53 SoMuchBetter wrote: there is no effort involved in mass PM's. to prove a point i PM'd everyone on the page where his pm was posted with my parody of randombum's PM in like 10 seconds flat. if anyone is curious, my pm looked like this + Show Spoiler + Hello. Now i know what you're thinking. What's a flawed man such as myself doing PMing mankid's monument to pure unkempt overfollowing testosterone, dashing good looks and large phalli, yourself (pictured below). I want you to give me a chance as the mayor of Liquida. A. I've been around TL.net longer than randombum, making me a more valuable member of the community than he is. B. I will always double lynch if town asks (i'm told this is a good thing) C. My post count is really big. D. I took the time writing this PM because randombum made one, and I personally think I'm cooler. Oh yeah, and spam in thread or something like that. Thanks, SoMuchBetter Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:34 SoMuchBetter wrote:I will be running for mayor Last time around I tried running for mafia under the pretext of being the most trustworthy mayor in town. Apparently that angle didn't work, so I decided this time to take my campaign in a completely different direction! Without further adieu, I present my new image and latest electoral poster! Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:40 SoMuchBetter wrote:In regards to Ghar's detective plan if he is elected mayor. Say Ghar is mafia, which the clues seem to point to at this point in time (although keep in mind that the clues don't mean anything and won't until at least a couple of day/night cycles). Since it is impossible for the detectives to know who each other are at this point in time, it's impossible for them to agree on just one detective to talk with Ghar. Thus, in the best case scenario, all 4 detectives PM him and he is able to rely this information back to his mafia pals. Once the word is out that he is mafia and the town lynches the detective to confirm it, the mafia will be able to kill the rest of the detectives and eliminate one of the most useful town roles completely from the game. This may even lead to the town's ultimate demise. I urge everyone to think about his plan a little more before voting for him Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:32 SoMuchBetter wrote: i'm sorry but i don't buy even for a second that empyrean is actually a detective. there is no way to prove that he is a detective unless he is elected mayor and he follows through with ghar's plan. if not, the mafia kills him on the first night then the town is out an important role. he is basically forcing us to vote him for mayor or we lose a detective for no good reason. if he's not a detective and just a lying townie trying to get a role, then why would we want him in a position of significance like the pardoner or mayor? or worse, he could be lying mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:44 SoMuchBetter wrote: How can you possibly conclude that we must make empy the pardoner to save him? the strategic thought processes he must have went through to decide that his ridiculous ultimatum would be a good idea are so bad that he can't possibly be of any benefit to the town whatsoever, detective or not. then you go on to say that the mafia pardoner isn't dangerous? making him immune from vigilante action is bad enough, but having the mafia as a pardoner in late game is a very bad situation to be in for the town edit: i accept that the elections are more or less random, but please don't elect the guy who cut his own brake fluids and is now speeding down the footpath yelling at everyone to jump out of his way or else Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:47 SoMuchBetter wrote: the idea is they don't PM him until they've checked that he is innocent first Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 18 2008 23:54 SoMuchBetter wrote: if no detective comes out and tries to argue against the mayor then we can assume that he is innocent (or that none of the detectives are active/followed his plan). thus, there should be reason to trust the mayor. if 5 people msg him then its obvious that one of them is mafia and the mayor has a good suspect list to start with. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 22:21 SoMuchBetter wrote: to put it briefly, the town acts during the day, the mafia acts at night. for now we just sit tight and hope we're still around in the morning Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 11:17 SoMuchBetter wrote: ghar went interstate for his martial arts Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 11:29 SoMuchBetter wrote: no he didn't. i know ghar personally so im vouching for the fact that he isn't lurking and is actually not here Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:19 SoMuchBetter wrote:there was no connection between ghar and martial arts until i posted it like 5 pages back Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:37 SoMuchBetter wrote:Putting my faith in Ace and voting for mandalor + Show Spoiler [SoleSteeler] + 60. SoleSteeler Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 02:06 SoleSteeler wrote:I would like to sign up if it's not too late. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:44 SoleSteeler wrote:Rip the Mad Hatter! Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:41 SoleSteeler wrote:In the last game, were the people who were mafia posting frequently? Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 13:07 SoleSteeler wrote:Hmmm... how could they have known who all the blues were? Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 07:49 SoleSteeler wrote:Hm, people voting for me I'm not mafia. I guarantee if I'm lynched it will be a waste, as I am a townie. Not sure how I could prove it now though. I know I may not appear active, but I've been (mostly) reading this whole thread as it's come up. Also voted every day (well, I abstained last day). So, this is the clue that makes people think I'm mafia? The steel part fits I guess, but there's no "sole" here. I highly suggest people not vote based on one part of my name. Even then, steeler is not steel. Steel bar is a long shot Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:20 SoleSteeler wrote:Good call Opz Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:53 SoleSteeler wrote:Agh I'm not mafia Trust me When I was accused before, I said not to look at one part of my name. Now I need to say soul stealer != SoleSteeler. SoleSteeler has nothing to do with draining life, or energy, or anything. We need to stick with the people we know are mafia, trust me, I am not mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 10:02 SoleSteeler wrote: I suppose that's true. Let's see what I can bring up... Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 16:14 SoleSteeler wrote:True. I know how the game works, and that saying "trust me" doesn't mean shit. I'm going to try and show you guys why I'm such a stretch. First of all, to be honest, I don't buy that the energy stealing thing is part of Mr. Pink. Day 1: ""Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans." First day, Mr. Pink is cautious. Nothing to do with SoleSteeler, or anything relating to me in my profile, etc. (It's early in the game, I know) Day 2: "Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia." This can be interpreted in a few ways. Some have said that it makes him "calm, cool and collected", which is true; but of course, I see no way how that links to me. It's a logical statement of a fact. Maybe unsoundlogic? (Although I might have recalled seeing him on the "confirmed innocent" list.) "OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground." What is this gooey substance, and is it even connected to Mr. Pink? How does that connect to me? Sorry, I've tried to keep up with this thread over the past few weeks, but it's hard to find specific info; has anyone figured out what that's supposed to be? Certainly gooey has nothing to do with "sole", which is a fish or the bottom of a shoe, or "steel", which is the opposite of gooey! "Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live." This is the main clue against life draining, yes? There is no mention of draining; you lose strength if you're in a fight and you're getting the shit kicked out of you by an "able fighter". It's a slightly weird way to word it, I agree, but it doesn't necessary imply anything about "draining", which would indicate that Mr. Pink is getting stronger, when he is clearly already strong in the first place (able fighter). Nothing like "as Mr. Pink continued to beat OneBlueAugust, he felt his strength rising as OneBlueAugust's got weaker." I just don't see anything about draining. Even then, as I said before, SoleSteeler != Soul Stealer. What about someone like "Energies" who's name is more connected with a life force than mine? I've also seen the word "incubus" being thrown around. That's a pretty specific demon to pick; Mr. Pink isn't going around seducing women and draining their souls, so I don't get why someone might think that Mr. Pink is an incubus. Day 3: "Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you."" Quiet friend. I suppose I am relatively quiet in the game, but there's many others who would fit the role as someone "quiet" more than I. Day 4: Mr. Pink doesn't appear (that I can tell) Ditto Day 5 (?) Day 6: + Show Spoiler + Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ. So Mr. Pink is fast (caught up to him first). Or at least faster than Mr. Brown. Both mafioso are brutal here, but holding someone down as another smashes his head in with a rock (from a yard decoration, hmm), is again in no way connected to me. Anyways, I am seriously baffled that anyone would see the "proof" presented against me as "concrete" or "damning" at all. We have one line (that I can tell) that can be interpreted as someone who's life is being "drained", but it's certainly not for sure. When you're getting beat up, you feel your strength leaving you. It's fairly common to see that in creative writing. Anyways, Mr. pink has no mention of fish, steel, or of being a loner too (like the "sole" person), since he's usually with Mr. Brown. We have other people that have are more likely mafia, so I would ask all of you to at least get rid of those people first, and hopefully more clues will come forth, and you will continue to see that there isn't a shred of evidence that links anything Mr. Pink has done to me. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 16:50 SoleSteeler wrote:I see. When I say there's no evidence against me, I'm just not seeing the connection, besides the small possibility that Mr. Pink actually drains life. Hopefully it'll become clearer in the next few days. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 07:32 SoleSteeler wrote:My dear God I've read most of these posts, but it's the last day for many of my friends' exams and I, so I am too drunk to respond. Tomorrow, hopefully, I will. Now I will at least say, please, please ,please, vote for others who are more concrete. I hope that in a couple days with more Mr. pink clues you'll see i'm no mafioso. It'll be clear trust me. Posted in night7/main_page.251 Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 01:16 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 02:32 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for lostyourskills Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:49 SoleSteeler wrote:I change my vote from lostyourskills to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 04:49 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for Wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 15:39 SoleSteeler wrote:I abstain from voting this day. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 07:42 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for L edit: Second vote is to Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 02:42 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 07:47 SoleSteeler wrote:I change my vote from crazie-penguin to L Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 06:27 SoleSteeler wrote:I vote for L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [SpiritoftheTuna] + 103. SpiritoftheTuna Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Uh, wait. Doesn't he have to make the first kill immediately after being elected? Hitting an inactive wasn't really a bad idea... just got unlucky is all. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:43 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: ... What? Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:45 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Think that was part of the plan anyway. Plus, how would the mafia know who's blue? Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Wait. Who do you propose he should have used the instant lynch on, if at all? I wanna hear your side. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:48 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Is there any reason your suspicions shouldn't be made public? You can't have used an investigate or anything yet if you were a DT, so uh... what? Why PM, especially to only Ace, if you're so wary of him? Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 13:58 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Seems more like B or C to me. Mafia can't be that stupid, can they? Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:03 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Stop acting so enigmatic, what the fuck. be STRAIGHTFORWARD. Confusing the shit out of people helps the MAFIA. I'm starting to not even care what you are anymore, other than asshole. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:11 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:By the way guys, I'm going to be gone/inactive until Sunday, going to WashDC for Japan Bowl. Eh. Pay no mind, it should only be a night and half a day. I'll be active once Sunday afternoon PST hits. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:40 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Hey guys, just got back from DC. 2nd place for my level in Japan Bowl, wasn't bad. Anyway, I'll catch up on reading and PM Ace my role in a sec. Might take awhile, I left right after Night 1 started. Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:55 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Hahahahahha sounds Mandalor majorly fucked up. Voting for him now... Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:00 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:what the fuck is this shit Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:24 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Once there was a blind albino Who happened to be quite the wino He drank and he drank Until his clothes were so rank And he thought he was riding a rhino Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:58 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Oh right, just saw that change on suspect 2. Okie, bumatlarge it is? Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:24 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: I don't know... like father like son, right? I knew Bob. He was an asshole. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:28 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Wait, what out-of-the-box strategies? Araav might've actually been out of line if his infiltration was worse (in terms of against the rules) than your suggestions... Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:52 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Uh, that didn't sound like a strategy per se, but adding arbitrary detective abilities...? Making a list and having detectives able to check more than one a time? What? Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:31 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Ace, could you clarify where my second lynch vote is supposed to go during the double lynch? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 14:47 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: LucasWoJ was revealed as a blue when he died, Alethios... Showtime's right this time. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 06 2008 05:41 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: I'm not sure what to do without your directive. Is there someone we all should be voting for, or just whoever on Plexa or otherwise's suspect list that we find the most suspicious? Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 15:20 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: They're all Tarentino characters. Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown (mostly the vig i think) and Kill Bill. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:56 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:whats this have to do with anything Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:13 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Has to be a specific person, yo. Can't just be littered anywhere. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:24 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Kind of obvious, no? 20 names, 20 mafia, and in the case of Queasy, they were all attached ot the same name. Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:10 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:The apple of love also means tomato (archaic usage i think), which was believed to be an aphrodisiac at some point. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:40 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Okkk.... I'm pretty sure that if Plexa is an element of {Alive}, then we should kill L. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:57 SpiritoftheTuna wrote: Really? If L were a townie, then mafia would've definitely reserved 2 hits on plexa to finish him for sure, knowing only L would be on him. If L saved Plexa for realz, mafia's stupid and alot of shit just went down the drain. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:55 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:I vote to lynch Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:20 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:I vote Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 12:59 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Change my vote to bumatlarge Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 15:35 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:I change my first vote from bumatlarge to Ghar Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 06:20 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:37 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:I vote for L. + Show Spoiler + seriously, how is he not mafia + Show Spoiler [Supah] + 74. Supah Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 22:33 Supah wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:42 Supah wrote:I vote for Crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 03:13 Supah wrote:i vote for L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [TranceStorm] + 96. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:34 TranceStorm wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 08:58 TranceStorm wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 08:37 TranceStorm wrote:First Vote: Ace Second Vote: wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:52 TranceStorm wrote:I change my second vote from wurm to Abstain My first vote is still for Ace + Show Spoiler [Unforgiven_ve] + 36. Unforgiven_ve Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 23:54 Unforgiven_ve wrote::D lets lynch Dr. Dragoon! Weeee Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:48 Unforgiven_ve wrote:IM GONNA RUN FOR MAYOR TOO! LOW TAXES AND HIGH QUALITY SLUTS THATS WHY I HAVE TO OFFER + Show Spoiler + yes, im actually doing it Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:00 Unforgiven_ve wrote:danm, not a good sart ;D...we count on you our magnificent leader! -_-...i hope your dont result at fiasco like FS...and i hope the pardoner gets more active, not like tracil last round Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:yay! getting on track here...i trust blindly (for now) in you Ace Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 03:44 Unforgiven_ve wrote:sorry i havent following the game guys, RL stuff sucks. Not even 50% of the people is voting...we cant let the game die =(. i've been reading the last 20pages aprox. and my principal suspect is Ninja4ever and a list whit 4-5...and Ace please give us all the information the DT gave you, for now i will abstain and hope the people start checking the game again Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 22:09 Unforgiven_ve wrote:nice nice, the game is alive again! nice analysis by plexa...sorry for not posting much but i've been very busy whit RL stuff, but im always checking the thread and reading the las 2-3 pages. i dont know if you rolechecked ninja...but he's still my 1st suspect Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:30 Unforgiven_ve wrote:sup guys, lol the voting is close...i read a couple last pages and you think im a suspect? ;D...cant see why...and the guy who asked if my bunny is giving the finger or thumbs up...it is giving the finger ;D so cute Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:35 Unforgiven_ve wrote:oh, an di would like to vote for ninja4ever, i think plexa is whit me in this...between L and penguin i'll vote for penguin, the reason is the "ununderstandable language" Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 14:01 Unforgiven_ve wrote:can just someone of the dead mafia ask the alive mafia if they are sending the list soon? game is going to die again if we take this long to update day/night. and the guys suspecting me, i dont see ONE clue pointing to me...im semi-active cuz im kinda busy right now, but i've been following the game Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 13:47 Unforgiven_ve wrote: i smell something fishy here Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 09:08 Unforgiven_ve wrote:i vote for randombum i think he's trusthwhorty enough cause he was campaining PRE-game Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 09:11 Unforgiven_ve wrote:wtf guys? empyrean voted for Ace...and Ace voted for randonbum someone running for mayor should/whould ABSTAIN or vote for someone whit no chance...this is just stupid/fishy i dont like what im seeing Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 10:03 Unforgiven_ve wrote:i vote for mandalor Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 03:39 Unforgiven_ve wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 22:05 Unforgiven_ve wrote:I vote for EvilMonkey and my second vote to Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:35 Unforgiven_ve wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 01:52 Unforgiven_ve wrote: vote for L and Ninja4Ever + Show Spoiler [Vharox] + 35. Vharox Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 Vharox wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:09 Vharox wrote: oh that's a good one :D Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 20:27 Vharox wrote: ... We are brothers. We can't help that we live in the same house. W/e I knew something like this would happen. Just take me out of the game if you guys are freaked out by this or w/e Just leave Chez in, he's been wanting in ever since I started playing, and I would hate to spoil the experience for him since I've already played before. And I don't see why I'd waste my time "cheating" to play this game since I've already been successful at winning. Dumb. Posted in night7/main_page.055 + Show Spoiler [Wizard] + + Show Spoiler [Wysp] + 105. Wysp Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:44 Wysp wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=So no fek Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" I looked at every profile picture, and his hair is the only hair that stands out. Not to mention he looks he looks 'enigmatic.' Nothing concrete, of course. Also, where can one learn what Dr.Dragoon did? Posted in night7/main_page.039 On March 19 2008 08:47 Wysp wrote:Anyone at this point could be mafia, the only way I can think of assessing who should be chosen for major is the amount of damage that they do to the mafia in their campaigning. That is, to say, whoever is providing the best non-trust related plan to elimate the mafia. Empyrean's problem is that he's calling on trust as the vital part of his election platform, not giving forth a plan that can be run regardless of who the major is. Now, a mafia member could be giving us this destructive plan to get rid of the major position (for if a mafia member is elected its basicly going to be his speedy death.) But this doesn't matter. We cannot tell if anyone is mafia, so we may as well reward the best thinker. If a mafia member creates a better non-trust related plan than any legit townie could, what does it matter? He's done his share in helping us as he has enabled us to elimate his allies quicker than we could of envisioned. Also, this encourages legitimate majors to try harder. So come on Empyrean, start dishing us some good shit if you want votes. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:21 Wysp wrote:I don't know why we are even considering that Empyrean is a detective. Its all trust, which we can have none of at this point. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:30 Wysp wrote: you're trusting someone before there is any accountability, ignore anyone's promises or word. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 01:49 Wysp wrote: vote for him because he gave has the unfounded statement 'I'm a detective.' Its fairly easy to understand this is not a reason to vote for him. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:23 Wysp wrote: I also do not see it as an argument against him, for anyone could be posing as anything: motive is impossible to determine. I would say vote for Empyrean if he is doing the most harm to the mafia now. But, if a pattern is seen in those who support his logic and him later in the game, this would be very indicative. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:34 Wysp wrote:Figuring out for sure if Empyrean is mafia is fairly important. If he is it will be easy to figure out atleast where to look for a few more members. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:01 Wysp wrote:I just want to comment, we can't go crazy with detective role checking. Only get a couple shots with it and there are plenty of people. Posted in night7/main_page.069 Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 05:16 Wysp wrote:I'm going to have to agree with Eti, we really should always try and tie who we lynch to a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:45 Wysp wrote:I took a hit last night. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:11 Wysp wrote:Are we sure Ace isn't Mafia? If someone could link me to a page that explains why he isn't that would be great. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:56 Wysp wrote:Ace, make sure all these people are PM'd in the vote spliting, the group of 7 should be easy enough to organize but its going to take a miracle for a well organized split of the 29. Its definately worth a try, though. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 07:57 Wysp wrote:Also, if this splitting causes the wrong person to be lynched, he can just be pardoned (not sure if this has been mentioned, I haven't time right now but to skim.) Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 16:42 Wysp wrote:exams and papers are done. is anyone maintaining a clue list? Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:59 Wysp wrote:I vote for Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:13 Wysp wrote:I abstain. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 15:22 Wysp wrote:I abstain + Show Spoiler [Yogurt] + 18. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:53 Yogurt wrote:ahhh add me! Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:34 Yogurt wrote:i vote for empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:13 Yogurt wrote:even if empyrean is mafia, i dont see how it could potentially be THAT bad his double vote doesn't count for much, and if he doesn't put our double lynch demands to use, we can just lynch him and be done with it if he is really townie, or detective as he claims, then he would truly be a crazy help to the town he knows the game, winning it last round, and writing a detailed summary, so either way we either get a huge plus, or a not so bad negative Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 08:13 Yogurt wrote:i've found some flaws in the bodyguard plan, or at least i think i did, but ill wait till he reposts Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 08:32 Yogurt wrote: thats not the one, but again, ill wait for ace to post it again Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:51 Yogurt wrote: i reread the plan, and for some reason i had in my mind that then the townies would be pm'ing their roles to the bodyguards, but i see he never wrote that in any case, this wouldn't work because of the massive pool of townies. Yes, it'd be easy to fish out the role claimers, as there are only two or three of each role, but the pool of townies is like 90 something people, which would allow mafia to just put their names in as townies, and it wouldn't help much. But anyway, I'm curious as to how the plan will continue. So hypothetically lets say Ace is mafia. He gets into "office" releases the names of the bodyguards, and everything seems fine. But if the town thinks he is legit, as he well might be, he garners a huge amount of trust and can sway the lynching votes away from his fellow mafia. But anyway, even if we do get the bodyguard names, where do we go from there? IF ace is mafia, he could release the names, but just as well kill all the bodyguards the first night. Well great, we lynch him, fine. But now pardoner has no bodyguards, and we're down a mayor. I dunno I guess someone should be skeptical of this plan Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:28 Yogurt wrote:how do we guarantee who the detectives are again? imo if the mafia was smart, they would have 1 or two claim the detective roles to cause a lot of confusion and stall while townies died, even if they got lynched in the end Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:52 Yogurt wrote: you mean the other way around right? at worst he's a townie? unless you meant it that way...! seriously though,i think the lynch would be better used on one of the quieter players, as we learned from last game Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 Yogurt wrote:should've lynched someone that at least voted, which shows their active but refusing to share their views its not too good of odds to just pick randomly Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:15 Yogurt wrote:I'm not pming yet on the premise Ace might be mafia Another thing i have to say is everyone consider what they would do if they were mafia Would you really be contributing, besides maybe running for mayor, or would you lay back and try to let the town incriminate themselves like last match? The quietest ones are often the most dangerous Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:58 Yogurt wrote:just got back after being gone for the weekend, and so i'll explain myself fast i just looked through the suspect lists, cus i had a stupid feeling that i was gonna die during night one, and i'd try and save a lynch so i looked up who most people were suspecting or who quite a few suspected anyway just happened to be CTstalker, who wasn't being too active anyway, and he just happened to be a blue Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:53 Yogurt wrote:I vote for empyrean [-b-]sorry chui i change my vote to ACE[-b-] Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 12:01 Yogurt wrote:i change my vote to ACE sorry if i cause any distractions + Show Spoiler [ZBiR] + 28. ZBiR Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 04:25 ZBiR wrote:Be patient people. It's like necessary in the actual game Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 22:57 ZBiR wrote: Ace explained it earlier, it wasn't a random pick. Incontrol was killed because he didn't vote at all for mayor and didn't post during Day 1. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 21:19 ZBiR wrote: +there are like 16 hours more before the deadline Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 07:41 ZBiR wrote:Some of you people are sooo impatient | ||
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28. ZBiR Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 08:07 ZBiR wrote: That would be a waste, since I'm as green as ever. And you know, throwing accusations with little to no reason isn't a thing that benefits the town. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 21:59 ZBiR wrote: + = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse ? Just a thought, there are also colours associated with them. Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:13 ZBiR wrote:The whole thing about making a mark on somebody's head is taken from the movie Kill Bill, there was that scene during the wedding when Bill says something similar to what The Wolf said and shoots Uma Thurman in the head. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:12 ZBiR wrote:Movie references: Eddie, Joe, Mr Blonde, Mr Brown, Mr White, Mr Pink, Mr Blue - characters from Reservoir Dogs Sidewinder, Cottonmouth, Snake Charmer, Black Mamba - characters from Kill Bill The Wolf - possible reference to Winston Wolf (almost always called Mr Wolf), a character from Pulp Fiction King Brown Snake, Taipan Snake, Mr Red, Mr Black, Enigma - unknown Notes: - these are all Tarantino's movies if anybody didn't know - the two snakes not in Kill Bill are both from Australia and are highly venomous, these 2 are the only Australian snakes of all mentioned - the only "color guys" not taken from Reservoir Dogs are red and black, and among all countries from the world (according to wikipedia), only Albania has red and black as the only colours on their flag... too bad we don't have any Albanians playing - Enigma is even more of an unknown (surprise! ) - Mr Blonde from Reservoir Dogs and Sidewinder from Kill Bill were both played by Michael Madsen - Mr White from Reservoir Dogs and Mr Wolf from Pulp Fiction were both played by Harvey Keitel That would be all for now... Maybe I'll come up with something else later. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:28 ZBiR wrote: yeah, you are And really, I don't think the mood icon could mean anything, it's much more probable that it links to quote or abundant smiley use in posts. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:29 ZBiR wrote: Nah, you're wrong. Mr Pink used Mynock's head like a flail, he was holding Mynock's long hair and hitting with his head (which was attached to his hair obv) Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:40 ZBiR wrote:Oh, it just struck me - Mr Pink wasn't using Mynock's head like a flail, it was more of a meteor hammer, a weapon that was used in Kill Bill by Cottonmouth's main bodyguards. But I don't know what can we gain from this information :| Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 02:56 ZBiR wrote: oh shit, nice find! Could you point where is this post of Ghar located? Cause I read the whole thread, but don't remember that pic. EDIT: nvm, found it Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 03:12 ZBiR wrote:Wouldn't it mean too many threads on one subject in the General Forum? Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 20:30 ZBiR wrote:I think Ace meant he is checking both Ghar and somebody else, and when he gets answers he'll tell us who to lynch. Also, he probably wants as many votes as possible on one target to spot/eliminate some mafia suspects (by asking with a detective how many mafia voted). Still, I'm not abstaining yet - I think that in the case I forgot to change vote, it would be better to vote for Ghar than to abstain. And if there will be better subject, then I won't forget Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:33 ZBiR wrote: And how many is that? I don't think this information would benefit mafia at all, so you can tell. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:39 ZBiR wrote:Oh, and one thing - I'm not saying Ghar is innocent or sth, he's still worth investigating, but that clue with severed head doesn't necessarily point at him - it could just be a coincidence that he made similar drawing, and the clue is just another reference to Tarantino's movies and nothing else. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:45 ZBiR wrote:Ok, so it's probably safe to assume they say the truth - mafia probably wouldn't risk two of their members to get one detective, and it's even more unlikely to happen simultaneously with Mandalor surprisingly going AFK for many hours, especially since it's evening in Germany now. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:46 ZBiR wrote:heh, I type too slowly ;] Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:57 ZBiR wrote: You know that there is no such thing as absolute proof in this game? (Well, except bodyguards being green, but that's given to mayor only) Posted in night7/main_page.113 Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:37 ZBiR wrote: I'm not Chuiu, but still: 1. Both die - this occurred in the first game with So no Fek and Shallow 2. Mafia doesn't individually hit people, they just send a list. So, this case is the same as 1., vigilante's kill goes thru. 3. If one medic protects, and two mafia hit - he dies. Still, vigilante's hit works. If only one mafia hits, then vigilante lives, mafia dies. Have you ever read the OP? Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:47 ZBiR wrote:Yeah, I vote for them being dismembered by four polar bears! Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:57 ZBiR wrote: Nah, wouldn't work. Where would we tie the fifth rope, to the head? ... Uhmm... Great idea! Five it is! Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 08:07 ZBiR wrote: I'd say your "stupid feeling" was perfectly justified, after you posting this I was quite convinced you are blue, and if I were mafia, I would target you too. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:46 ZBiR wrote:Nice job mayor! Let's hope it continues to be that good. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:21 ZBiR wrote:It's most viable to check people voting on Ghar, he had 7 votes, and if he's innocent then there are mafia among these 7 for sure Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:43 ZBiR wrote: But you see, it is already obvious that the town is at Ace's will, so when he commanded us to vote Mandalor, he could be sure to bite the bullet. This means mafia should, and probably did, jump in at any time. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 00:46 ZBiR wrote: You can read it from the voting thread, only a few people edited their original posts. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:33 ZBiR wrote: Notice that he edited that original vote so he was voting differently on 23.03.08, unless you've seen his original post it's not a proof (still, it's quite suspicious) Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:37 ZBiR wrote:Uhm... no. He voted (probably abstained) before you pointed Mandalor, then after you accused Mandalor, he changed his post from before. That's how I see it. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 01:58 ZBiR wrote: To discredit other veterans for example? And cause confusion? Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:23 ZBiR wrote: I'd say it would be cool if Ace pasted this whole file... but only AFTER the game ended. Now saying anything unnecessary could be helpful to mafia. Wrong. Risk of getting caught as a vet is very slim, still it harasses the town. It's a good trade for the mafia. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 16:25 ZBiR wrote:I vote for fusionsdf. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 03:14 ZBiR wrote:I vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:34 ZBiR wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote2_page.009 On March 25 2008 01:23 ZBiR wrote:It matters! If you care for the town's good then don't edit it. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 18:33 ZBiR wrote:I vote for wurm and BlindAlbino + Show Spoiler [Ziel] + 72. Ziel Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 18:30 Ziel wrote:Ahahahahah WOW the turnout is soooo good! This is gonna be more epic than a wow raid! when do we start?! Btw Chuiu think you forgot the rule about ppl not being able to edit their posts, even for grammar corrections. And a Q: If you're a plain towny and announce that you are one, there's no disadvantage there, yes? Since the mafia already know who all the mafias are. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:55 Ziel wrote:This thread is very likely to be closed and Chuiu will start up another one for Mafia Game #2. It's so much simpler that way. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:29 Ziel wrote:Woah! 10 pages to catch up after not reading for a day! My brain just fizzled reading all the accusations, theorycrafts and posts people have posted I'd like to reserve comments on anyone as of now (there's just too many people to guess from - so I'm starting off with people's hunches as of now, but they're just hunches, and therefore pointless (as of yet) to jump in the bandwagon). Anyway, on to the mayoral candidates. I think Ace's bodyguard plan is real spiffy and seems failsafe. As he and alot of others have said (but alot more people seem inactive -_- ) we need a startup plan ASAP after a mayor is chosen to at least know 100% we have an efficient Townie mayor. And from then on we work the ground up on the clues. I would have hoped there's a list of all the candidates and their reasons and plans as to why to they should be elected mayor, since looking back at how the first game went, we really need an efficient (and preferably experienced) mayor. For now my vote goes to Ghar. But again, whoever it is that becomes Mayor, I think if we dont have any other plan, we MUST make sure to at least carry out the Bodyguard Plan. Posted in night7/main_page.052 Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:53 Ziel wrote:Quoted from bottom of page 35 Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:55 Ziel wrote:Oh and if people are wondering why that's suspicious, last game someone actually wrote to reveal his role and left it for like 5mins and then edited it out. Who knows, maybe there was something in that empty quote or maybe there wasnt. But its all the way at the bottom of page 35 as the last post...so maybe it had something..idk lol too much reading to do! Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:13 Ziel wrote: WOW. This is a big flaw in the DT plan -_- And I dont see any way we can go around it if we have a mafia major. We need to seriously rethink what the mayor's backup plans are gonna be in his first 100 days in office! I'm starting to have suspicions with Ace, because despite his sound arguments right up to this post, he's persistent in that this flaw isn't even there (if Im correct from what I've read of his posts) :O And to the person that suggested the idea that we a detective should come up, WHO would the brave soul be? And we have no way of verifying it's true! (Unless more detectives come up..but that would be plain stupid). Though it seems its the most solid plan we have now, having to lose even one DT for this plan...The worst case scenario is that the mafias have taught out a real good plan to mess this up and we're not seeing it...Bah I dont even know if Im making much sense now...better reread some posts again. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:20 Ziel wrote:Lol oh k thx guys. Musta missed those posts >_< Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:10 Ziel wrote:Lol really it's unfortunate inControl got lynched, but it was just pure rotten luck. I bet if inc was Mafia everyone would be cheering for Ace right now, despite it being of pure luck. I'm just really worried Mafia's already a couple of steps ahead of us. One with a Mad Hatter down, two with Mayor being roleblocked, and three the possibility that Ace is mafia after all *shudders*. But anyway, congrats to you and randombum for getting the mayoral position and the pardoner. I hope the other blues are paying attention to whats going on generally, especially the Jack. You've got a pretty powerful role there. Well, at least town seems to have cooled down abit from the junk posts and waiting for night now. Posted in night7/main_page.075 Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:14 Ziel wrote:Seriously i hope ppl DONT SEND IN THEIR PMS YET TO ACE! for the plain and simple fact that we dont even know hes clean yet. wait a DT confirms. if all the blues send in their pms (or a number of them), and ace turns out to be mafia, we're as good as dead! Ok, time to sleep. It's 4AM and I gotta wake up at 7 for a full day of experiments >_< Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:15 Ziel wrote: O rly? What if they havent had the time to post yet or somein? Like inControl? That would plain suck ay. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:21 Ziel wrote:Lol well if i were to put myself into a DT's shoes, there's 3 other DTs, and i might think hey maybe the other DTs are gonna post so i dont have to. plus the fact that because we have no way verifying that the DT is a real blue until we lynch him, it really isnt much motivation for any DT to step up as of yet. And if i remember correctly, if the DT who steps up claims youre mafia, we lynch him to make sure hes telling the truth? Lol but yeah I dont see any other way right now, but its just not very encouraging for the poor DTs. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:29 Ziel wrote:Lol I guess I didnt think of that point. But idk, Im just saying its possible. I mean hey some of them may not have posted at all, and may want to stay longer in the game. plus theres the whole which-DT-should-tell-the-info since the DTs dont know each other. But watever man, I just seriously really hope a true DT comes up and proves your clean. That'll do us some morale boost lol Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:34 Ziel wrote: Lol ok fingers crossed on that then. Come day phase and non steps up then i wont suspect you anymore Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 18:18 Ziel wrote:Aww I missed this! lol i was quite busy >_< well congrats to the town and Ace! Let's see whos next up the chopping deck! Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:40 Ziel wrote:Urgh there's just too many pages to catch up on but seriously the kills are way to accurate....and despite whatever everyone is saying I'm having a bad feeling about Ace again lol. Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 04:38 Ziel wrote:Lol I gave up trying to follow this game around more than 100pages back. There's just too much to keep up with...especially if you miss checking up even for a day. Plus alot of useless posts and bickering (from the ones that I saw previously...i dunno how its been for the recent 100pages tho). Anyway good luck with it guys. Though townies dont seem to be doing much good Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:29 Ziel wrote:I vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 17:40 Ziel wrote:I'm abstaining from voting. + Show Spoiler [Bockit] + 70. Bockit Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 21:53 Bockit wrote:how long again till the start? Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:08 Bockit wrote:Randombum did pretty well last game. Dunno why the hate... Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:45 Bockit wrote:My thoughts... randombum: He showed his skills in the previous game (one of the vigilantes who did an amazing job), his voting pattern was good (according to a quote earlier in the thread, I haven't checked maybe I should) and I actually liked the mass PM, not because of the content but because of the effort involved in actually doing that. It shows he's dedicated, and that's something we need for the mayor. Empyrean: Experience as mafia, knows how they think also if he is a detective a detective mayor would be incredibly devestating against the mafia. araav: Basically I was impressed by how quickly he came up with the numbers. I had thought of doing something like that myself but never got around to it cos I'd have to do a lot of learning along the way. Massive props for that. Also someone mentioned "why would you pick a mayor because they can program c++?", my answer is for the bodyguards, because information like that is deadly to the mafia, we will be able to pick up trends and a lot more through smart use of his skills. Also, it's all well and good to say "but I can do that too", but you haven't posted results, araav has. Based off this, I think randombum should be mayor because imo he has proven himself to be capable of picking out mafia and will be useful in the leadership position, and araav as pardoner (I know we don't get to vote for this, but we should organise the vote to cover this) purely for the protection of bodyguards. The reason I pick araav over empyrean is purely because we know araav can provide the results and they are checkable, whereas empyrean, we are not 100% positive he is a detective, and it would be difficult to determine this, maybe not until it is too late. Posted in night7/main_page.050 Posted in night7/main_page.051 Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 22:15 Bockit wrote:To clarify my above post, I have the same misgivings that have been expressed in this thread for Empyrean as pardoner or mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:40 Bockit wrote:Only flaw I can think of is with the "detectives remain silent for innocence". That assumes that at least one detective / 4 will use up 1 of their rolecheckers, and not all 4 will think, oh one of the others is sure to do it. Though I'm not suggesting we should kill of a detective to confirm, OR that the plan is massively flawed, I'm just pointing out. That is unless I'm missing something... Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:51 Bockit wrote: Unless he's lying about being roleblocked? Not that I think that's the case, I'm just pointing out that the logic you applied there isn't perfect. We already have our methods to confirm he's a townie (bodyguards, dts), I'm giving detectives until day then I'll be pretty confident he's a townie and I'll be pming my role. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:06 Bockit wrote:What's this 'night vote' thing? Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:12 Bockit wrote:Don't mafia have the advantage where they just send in a list of suspects(not voted on)? I remember people (Read: Tracil) bringing that up as imba in the previous game... has it changed? Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:13 Bockit wrote:It might explain why they only hit 6 if it has changed from that.. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:22 Bockit wrote:ah kk, yeah that sounds possible, I just went back and had a look at the rules: Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:39 Bockit wrote:Further reading brings me this: Casts doubt on the "each mafia is directly related" deal.. Chuiu (or anyone), can you clear this up? Does each mafia need to vote for townies to kill? Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 21:48 Bockit wrote: Gotta love logic... haha probably should have applied this earlier, well as you(Plexa) said it looks more daming with that in mind. For now though I'll wait for ace to tell us something. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:32 Bockit wrote: I was genuinely unsure.. Ugh looking at what I just typed makes me realise anything I say can be interpreted as me being mafia. I think I'm just gonna drop it haha. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:33 Bockit wrote:Ouch.. medic and a townie That head clues was used twice, it almost seemed as if he was TRYING to kill ghar.. Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:09 Bockit wrote:TWO detectives for a mafia... Not cool Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:10 Bockit wrote:Wow.. all our DTs are gone? :S Thank god we have plexa and fusion working through the clues, I haven't been able to follow this as much as I had hoped, I wanted to be analysing everything setting up huge excel tables and shit, but uni kills all my time, so thanks guys for all the effort you're putting in! Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:30 Bockit wrote: While I agree with pretty much all your methodology I don't think you can make the claim "because the juxtaposition doesn't exist then it increases his chance of not being mafia" and for proof I bring quesadilla, whose *only* connection to the clues was his signature, his name wasn't relevant but it was still him. Fair enough it turned out TranceStorm was townie, and the rest of his stuff doesn't match up as well as it seems people were thinking, as you've pointed out. I'm just trying to avoid us falling into the trap of saying "This clue fits X but Y doesn't fit therefore it can't be him" when we've seen that this can be the case. But yeah I agree with pretty much everything else you've been saying. Let's see some red by nightfall. Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 17:37 Bockit wrote: Cool, yeah I was just clarifying I guess. You're right it definitely has to be a good match. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:41 Bockit wrote: What did Mandalor do? EDIT: So deciding not to be so lazy I just went and had a look, Mandalor originally voted for ghar and then swapped to Ace. EDIT2: And d.arkive he voted for Last Romantic Damn I was really hoping we had something there Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:57 Bockit wrote: Oh thanks, awesome Yeah there is the suspicious people list, but atm 1(2) / 3 (4) mafia.. I dunno it doesn't solidify anything for me yet. EDIT: Trying to put myself in their mindset, Mafia would have to be pretty slack/stupid to stack votes like that at the last second. If that was the case, it would be extremely suspicious, and judging by the amount of blues we've lost I think it would be a mistake to treat them as that stupid in their movements. Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 21:03 Bockit wrote: Yeah I reckon, this has been some crazy detective work. Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 13:52 Bockit wrote: #1 isn't possible because L has been posting for the past few days. On this note: the fact that L has been so active recently and mafia didn't even send in a hitlist tonight, makes me doubt the strength of the convictions against him. I'm not saying it makes him a confirmed innocent or anything, just that to me it is by no means set in stone anymore. #2 Out of these possibilities, this is most likely imo. #3 is also possible, but the length of time makes it improbable imo. The fact that mafia *haven't sent in a hitlist* makes me think we should be looking at the completely inactive no-vote-no-post people for some mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 21:44 Bockit wrote: Heh.. I hate to burst your bubble but that is something that happens regardless of lists ie. with mafia killing people, they increase the % of townies that are mafia, because more innocents are dying than mafia. That aside, I'm loving the work you guys are putting in Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 20:48 Bockit wrote:I vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:56 Bockit wrote: Yep, I abstain from voting this round. EDIT: Until we hear the plan in case people are gonna try and read too much into that... Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 07:25 Bockit wrote:I abstain my first vote I abstain my second vote Until we get an update on both vote count and what ace wants us to do. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:05 Bockit wrote:I put my first vote on siefu, 2nd vote I abstain for now. EDIT: After finishing catching up on the thread, my 2nd vote goes to Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:09 Bockit wrote:Ignore this post:Wrong thread haha + Show Spoiler [Last Romantic] + 116. Last Romantic Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:05 Last Romantic wrote:I'd like to play. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:59 Last Romantic wrote:LOL Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 02:15 Last Romantic wrote:I rather like the Bodyguard plan. It's quite a solid way to ensure mayor's legit/not legit-ness. BTW, Mynock, SonuvBob is a blue-name Admin. He's not news. He just likes to be a confusing mofo like that. Why'd someone vote for me <<; I'm not even campaigning. I already voted, but in retrospect I would have changed my vote to either araav or Empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 15:52 Last Romantic wrote:Heed thine mayor! Retract thine votes! Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:12 Last Romantic wrote:In Ace we trust. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:58 Last Romantic wrote:Ace is super pro ^^; Town fighting~! Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 11:04 Last Romantic wrote: Then try to win faster + with most townie survivals, or something? Not just win, but win in style. "If you decide to go to Seoul, at least you’ll get as far as Kyeon-gi province" Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 27 2008 01:05 Last Romantic wrote:I hope Mafia has a plan to keep us interested 'cause as it is I'm just reading and being amused, but not really thinking much beyond a relatively basic level. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:40 Last Romantic wrote: Their accuracy is uncanny. 18 map off~ Now to hunt for clues. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:15 Last Romantic wrote:I vote b) Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 11:23 Last Romantic wrote:Yay, Ace is back We were going to adopt the headless-chicken route of action but you returned~ Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 08:08 Last Romantic wrote:LOL Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:48 Last Romantic wrote:God. 2 DTs. Empyrean was obvious, New104 just bad luck. Good job, vigi! :D Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 13:33 Last Romantic wrote:Waiting on Ace's word. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:52 Last Romantic wrote:What about the ones on that list that are supposedly confirmed innocents? Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:04 Last Romantic wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:11 Last Romantic wrote:Delmar is a bad man :< Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:12 Last Romantic wrote:and what the FUCK four blues? Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:25 Last Romantic wrote:If the town loses I will be really mad How the hell do they know all our blues ? was that channel thing actually true ? Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 18:36 Last Romantic wrote:Agreed with Ace about inactives. All mafia are definitely active, whereas a good number of the greens are totally not. =/ Please do something about this, Chuiu. I still trust in Ace~ Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 06:06 Last Romantic wrote:25. He got his masculine/feminine wrong Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 16:18 Last Romantic wrote:Reading this thread continues to confound me. The only thing I've got a beef with is L being ugly, because IMO L is quite pretty [the DeathNote character, at least] but I'd still kill him anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 17:04 Last Romantic wrote:Let's lynch L wooo~!! Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 26 2008 01:14 Last Romantic wrote:I'm so confused now but that's ok, go Plexa! /will vote like a sheep. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:52 Last Romantic wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:20 Last Romantic wrote:I change my vote from SoMuchBetter to Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 14:53 Last Romantic wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:47 Last Romantic wrote:I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 16:41 Last Romantic wrote:I vote Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 16:17 Last Romantic wrote:I change my first vote to Ghar I abstain with my second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 16:55 Last Romantic wrote:I ABSTAIN from voting Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 18:37 Last Romantic wrote:I vote for SoleSteeler. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 18 2008 16:13 Last Romantic wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 17:04 Last Romantic wrote:I vote for Lawrence Lawliet. L. + Show Spoiler [Plexa] + 118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:39 Plexa wrote:Sign me up Chuiu!! i, with fusionsdf will aid liquidia against the evil mafia Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 15:32 Plexa wrote:woot pm received Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:58 Plexa wrote:I would like to turn your attention to one Fusionsdf In out plethora of conversations via pm he was VERY accurate in his predications (as you all saw). I personally don't feel like am a suitable candidate for this position, but fusionsdf on the other hand is. He is motivated, inspired and he is on to it. He would be able to use our double lynches wisely and steer the town towards victory!!! vote fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:16 Plexa wrote:never trust an australian with 10 posts Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:29 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. - Seems to be the leader of the group - Likes to kick (Tekken reference?) - Seems to get lucky/panicky Suspects I'm going to suggest looking at LoStYouRSkiLLS for this role. Firstly his I.D. suggests that chuiu has lost his skills leading the town => needs replacing. Also his quote "skill is when luck becomes habit" seems to pertain to eddies characteristics. Somewhat weak evidence, but enough for me to become suspicious. Next on my hitlist would be MasterofChaos because well, he is a master after all. And Chaos nicely refers to Eddies slightly erratic behavior. However he seems quite genuine in being a towny so i have no qualms with him. + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. - Sickly appearance - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) - Seems to be a minor character Suspects Firstly, Queasy jumps to mind as a suspect. His I.D. fits the description almost perfectly and he has only said very minor things in this thread. No quote + no profile + no comments = i.d. would be his only clue and there would be little else pertaining to him in the text. I think that we have ourselves a mafia. + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. - Remorseful, respectful - "Made his mark" - Didn't kill anyone in night Suspects This is really clutching at straws but i suspect LucasWoJ Lucas -> George Lucas and WoJ -> Warriors of Justice, something starwars affiliated The justice side of things seem to coincide with Wolf's respectful side of things and that he is doing this for a just casue. While the made his mark clue leads on to the fact that he is WoJ. That in addition to his low activity between day 1-day2 leads me to beleive that he is Wolf. + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection Suspects immediately all australians are under a cloud of doubt. I think SMB could pertain to the Taipan clue, as it is the most venomous snake in all of australia (21/25 on the poison scale apparantly). Could possibly be Camlito or Energies, but there's really nothing there... except for perhaps energies referring to a) electricity b) not needing any weapons. So yea, Energies is worth looking at.. (he did say that he didn't want to be labeled a lurker and be lynched - worried about how he is appearing while adding nothing? iono). I'll do more later Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:40 Plexa wrote:Thats nice energies, so when your 100% proof comes out to be 0% proof then can we lynch you? Let's put it this way, if i get lynched, i don't really mind - it's not going to aid the town in anyway, nor is it going to hamper the town except for wasting a days lynch. However, it puts you under some serious doubt - thus making you seem rather mafiaish. So all i ask is that if you waste your lynch on me, lynch energies tomorrow and lets see some red blood flow btw i haven't read anyones 'list' of mafia, this is just speculation on my end via checking post histories in this thread (<3 blue power) Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:54 Plexa wrote:Mafia setting up Empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 21:21 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter Suspects more_minerals cannot be a suspect imo, all his posts pertain to having fun whereas Mr Pink is calm and collected. heros_pink probably isn't either as he has been consistently hostile throughout the thread. Possibly could be BloodyC0bbler due to the number of blood references in the passage, but really not enough to go on here. by the way, i think profiling each of the mafia from their phrases is a logical and smart way of identifying possible mafia, and i will continue to profile mafia as long as i can be bothered Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:03 Plexa wrote:Eventually w'ere bound to have some intersections and then bingo! At least thats my rationale Nice find! Without a doubt that Sidewinder = the pale horse + Show Spoiler + sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder <=> The word used to describe the colour of the 'pale' horse is the Greek word chloros or green. It is meant to convey the sickly green tinge of the deathly ill or recently dead. Since the literal translation 'green' does not carry these connotations in English the word is rendered 'pale' in most English translations. Eddie is the leader hence obviously the "White Horse" imo + Show Spoiler + The rider of the white horse is very commonly interpreted to be the Antichrist figure, but such an interpretation ignores much of the imagery presented throughout the Revelation and many cross references of whom the Bible names as being given a crown. For instance, every other time the colour white is used in the Revelation, it is always representative of righteousness and holiness, and whenever the author, John, depicts a malevolent force, he consistently shows it as evil (the two beasts of chapter 13, or the scarlet beast and the prostitute of chapter 17). Because of this, there is no reason to interpret the white horse as representing anything other than something/someone that is righteous and holy. Even the terminology “conquering and to conquer” alludes to a righteous person, as the Greek term used here is used throughout the New Testament as a word meaning “to overcome” and “to be victorious.” In the 23 other times it is used in the New Testament (15 times in the Revelation alone), 22 of those instances refer to Christ or to His followers overcoming evil. So, in this 24th instance of the word (one of 15 times in the Revelation), it should be taken to mean the same thing: a righteous or holy force who is able to overcome and gain victory. Also, considering the rider is given a crown (something only seen to be given to Jesus or the 24 elders -- Daniel 7:13, 14, 27; Luke 1:31-33; Revelation 4:4, 10; 14:14), one would come to the conclusion the rider of the white horse is an individual on the side of good. Or it could be the antichrist in disguise, it is said that the antichrist would seem pure, and make himself seem righteous and working for peace while actually deceiving mankind. Blackmamba = black and mrpink = red + Show Spoiler + Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. <=> The rider of the second horse is generally held to represent War. The red colour of his horse represents blood spilled on the battlefield. He carries a greatsword, which represents battle and fighting. The Red Horse is also said to represent the Planet Mars. However, Blackmamba really doesn't have any connection bar his name This might mean that the four are connected somehow through some common feature.. i have an idea what this is but ill keep working on it before presenting a premature theaory Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:48 Plexa wrote:The only reason my suspects are listed is because thats just how my minds thinks... and i just wanted to get everything on to a piece of paper [not literally] with the ultimate goal of trying to formulate something concrete And yes i 100% with the statement that a clue can go multiple ways (i could miss something etc) and thats fine by me - the longer the game goes the more accurate the character description becomes and the more accurate the predictions are... its only night one, take a chill pill oh and the WoJ thing came from a simple google search of your name Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 22:59 Plexa wrote:With regard to WoJ? it would be a simple connection to the clan tag really.. could be applicable to a number of people Posted in night7/main_page.097 On March 22 2008 23:17 Plexa wrote:Hittegods There is almost nothing pointing towards him in any way. He was a strong supporter of Ace and hasn't posted during the night/day2. His quote possibly could be loosely linked to the deaths of blue/yogurt but really thats just stretching it. Ghar Outside of campaigning fucking hard for mayor, he hasn't posted a thing. His quote and country add up, and possibly could be Taipen snake. However, if he were Taipen then his quote wouldn't exactly apply to the happenings in the night (but the inactivity of Taipen in the 2nd night coincides with his absence). Thus there is a possibility, but a very small one. L Yet another player who dropped off suddenly after the Mayoral race; supporter of Randombum and also took a very mathematical approach to the game. He seemed to err on the side of caution with regard to empyrean, and well there isn't much to go on in terms of clues. movie references > me obviously Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:03 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. - Seems to be the leader of the group - Likes to kick (Tekken reference?) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) - Seems to get lucky/panicky + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. - Sickly appearance - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) - Seems to be a minor character (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. - Follows Eddie's orders (- Not present in Night's activities) + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. - Comes from nowhere (dark -> light) (- Possibly connected to a smiley face) - Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1) + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. - Blockade (- not present in night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. - Knives = weapon of choice - Leaves his victims to die slowly (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Stomped a head (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. - Remorseful, respectful - "Made his mark" - Didn't kill anyone in night (- Kill bill reference) + Show Spoiler + Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. - Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling - Uses his legs to kill - Hit in the face with a rock (- Not present in opening night) (- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. - Possibly yells alot - Support character (- Similar to king brown snakes trading glares, diff character therefore not clue imo) (- Not in opening night) + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. - Nothing - Not present in last night + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". - (- Not present in last night) + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - Concerned with who will be mayor - Last word Total mafia count: 17 Mafia unrevealed: 3 Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:05 Plexa wrote:while this is a recurring statement it applies to two different characters... however both have 'brown' in their name which could be something... however for the time being i think that this clue will lead us nowhere Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:14 Plexa wrote:seriously doubt it, the shotgun maniac (mr blonde) is associated with coming from no where (ie swooping down, stepping out from the shadows) which to me is the major clue associated with him, not his choice of weaponry Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:29 Plexa wrote:The cellphone clue pertains to another mafia thus it doesn't strengthen our case against caller. Plus the 'lead' reference wasn't as direct as the other clue associated with Mr Blonde (coming from no where). The fact that a synonym for "lead" was used in the second day is enough for me to think that the case against caller is not as strong as some people are making out. This goes for the repetition of faces meeting - it pertains to two separate mafia thus isn't anything we can really use as a clue for the time being. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 20:00 Plexa wrote:This is my take on Ghar;; What does Ghar mean? According to wikipedia ghar can be one of three things - a childrens book, a bollywood movie, or the hindi word for 'home'. What actions has Ghar taken - Campaigned hard for mayor - Activity dropped off over the weekend (no posting after the 20th) -> SMB has offered an explanation for this - Drew a picture of himself holding a mafias head in a campaign promotion tool Which character is suspected of being Ghar? + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. - Seems to be well composed - Not phased by death, (necessary change?) - Able fighter (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) Do they match? The first discrepancy is the timing. If SMB's explanation checks out then Ghar was not around to vote in the night phase of the game - thus works against him being mafia. However, he could have pm'd ahead of time with an explanation, dno. Ghar always portrays a sense of being well composed in his posts, and this characteristic checks out with Mr Pink. I think the phrase "reminding them" is particularly important, this implies that our Mr Pink has said that 'death is now a common thing in liquidia' or something to that effect already in this thread. I could quote some stuff that Ghar's said, but just take my word for it, Ghar has always seemed complacent about killing people. His signup thread post was 'lemme at em', the emphasis on DEATH in his picture etc. but this does NOT coincide with Mr Pink's attitude imo or with what he was reminding liquidia. The "Meteor Hammer" point raised earlier on makes me think that Ghar is being set up. Ghar's own mayor plan would have himself lynched in the first day if he was mafia. That in addition to a number of similarities not definite links between himself and Mr Pink make me think that is was someone who worked closely with Ghar - not Ghar himself. However, this could be completely wrong as "Meteor Hammer" is in Kill Bill not reservoir dogs (where Mr pink comes from iirc). In conclusion,. there is enough doubt to make me think that Ghar is not mafia, but in fact is being set up by the clues (ala Live2Win) and i suspect it is someone who would be connected to Ghar in some way. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:03 Plexa wrote:Here's a PM convo i had recently - made me consider Ghar as much more of a mafia candidate than previously While the evidence against ghar is rather condemning, it's all rather circumstantial. Ghar's sig (which i am aware of but simply forgot to include it) fits the night scene perfectly. Delving further Mr Pink should be the "Red Horseman" ie the horse of war. This further reinforces the mafia connection.. Considering this fact, (disregard my first sentence) here is a list of facts against him; * Drawing of head * Accepting of death * Fits horseman description * Martial arts -> able fighter * Character seems to fit with Mr Pink's Against; * Chuiu possibly didn't know about the martial arts connection * Ghar's motives in being campaigning don't stack up to a mafia candidate Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:11 Plexa wrote:iirc, mafia submit their votes Chuiu once day turns to night- ghar wasn't around to vote Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:16 Plexa wrote:im sure that the hits are still associated to particular mafia members.. but i might be wrong Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:25 Plexa wrote:if the player has no direct influence on the hits (ie not associated with the hits) then it just looks worse for ghar Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:21 Plexa wrote:The fact he is a good fighter can be linked to the fact he is the "red horseman" from the 4 horses of the apocalypse (something picked up a couple pages back, circa 97 iirc). This connects to Ghar's quote and thus we have ourselves a candidate for mafia The origins of Ghar's quote are from "All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time" - Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller In short that guy was the most decorated marine in history, therefore a VERY accomplished fighter. Ladies and gentlemen, is that not a rather strong connection right there? Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:28 Plexa wrote:I think.. Lostyourskills = eddie Ghar = Mr. Pink Energies = Taipan Snake Posted in night7/main_page.114 On March 24 2008 08:53 Plexa wrote:I disagree, wasting a lynch on a probable townie is never worth it... just ignore them Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:53 Plexa wrote:There are very few references linking ghar to eddie... there are MANY references linking Mr Pink to ghar ;; Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:38 Plexa wrote:he's not online Posted in night7/main_page.116 On March 24 2008 10:42 Plexa wrote:iirc he never responded - he did not get the thing wrong afaik Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:47 Plexa wrote: Mandalor March 24, 2008 06:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Day 2] Direct Link Well, I had some rl going and chuiu didn't reply within 2 hours of my pm sent. Sorry for that, I wrote you a PM now. Hope this clears things up. if not, gl town! that was his defense Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 10:51 Plexa wrote:yes i just saw it i totally missed that haha Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:38 Plexa wrote:Heros)Pink =/= Mr Pink Ghar = mafia <=> Ghar = Mr Pink | ||
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118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:18 Plexa wrote:Here's my rationale; For * Drawing of head * Accepting of death * Fits horseman description * Martial arts -> able fighter * Character seems to fit with Mr Pink's * Signature refers to the most decorated marine ever -> able fighting Against; * Chuiu possibly didn't know about the martial arts connection (countered by marine sig) * Ghar's motives in being campaigning don't stack up to a mafia candidate All those characteristics stack up to him being Mr Pink, who is of course mafia Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:27 Plexa wrote:Yes, but that being said his quote is a direct reference to the most decorated Marine in US military history. Therefore it is safe to assume that this marine was a good fighter, therefore the connection is still there Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:32 Plexa wrote:mmm i dont think thats a connection... the ribbon is more your stereotypical medal for something.. + Show Spoiler + vs i just dont see it this is a closer match; Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:16 Plexa wrote:the clues townies pick up are invaluable and are the basis of lynching/vigil work once the game goes on a bit and the blues start to fall then we'll take a more important role just you wait! btw if i die tonight, please continue on profile each individual character.. those can easily distinguish when players cross clues between different mafia members to make a connection. And as i've already shown, that Ghar fits Mr Pink and no other mafia - and that technique could serve us well Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 20:50 Plexa wrote:Lets analyze your position shall we? If you were going to be mafia you would be cottonmouth + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. - Knives = weapon of choice - Leaves his victims to die slowly (- Not present in opening night) Now lets examine you.. Your ID Ninja4ever implies that you are a stealthy weapons master, and that you are well a ninja. Your sig is a Ghandi quote, interesting paradox really. On top of that you have said v-e-r-y little and nothing important at that. Basically the only connection between you and Cottonmouth is your id. However, Ninja's tend to work alone - so working in a group doesn't fit with the id. However the precision of the knives does suggest ninja like precision. Your persona also does not match that of Cottonmouth. With nothing else to go on, i'd say that the conclusion is inclusive at best. And an estimated probability of Mafia to be 10%... There isn't enough evidence to suggest anything after one night - and im sure there are better candidates out there. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 19:25 Plexa wrote:I'm really against Wurm being labeled a suspect - there is nothing at all to suggest that he is mafia except for some rather minor points in my honest opinion. There is a medic problem, yes, but perhaps its not with wurm. There are suspects that we can connect to hard evidence - why not go after some of those hints rather than this... Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:13 Plexa wrote:I wish i knew who the others were so i could run them against my profiles and come back with some answers Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:30 Plexa wrote:okay i am 100% convinced that wurm is innocent, and according to the info i just got pmd (may be linked in this thread? iono).. the alternatives to wurm are useless and ShadowDrgn useLess -> Quote refers to organic chemistry -> No other information available -> Name implies that he is useless Thus, only possible mafia connection would be to Mr Black, Mr Red and possibly King Brown Snake... no connection here at all, nothing to suggest he is mafia ShadowDrgn -> his profile says that he plays a lot of first person shooters -> his name (obv) has to do with shadows and dragons -> his actions are rather 'bland' and unintrusive - he's lying low + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. - Comes from nowhere (dark -> light) (- Possibly connected to a smiley face) - Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1) Do the two match? Why yes they do... Firstly there isn't alot of information regarding shadowdrgn, and chuiu said that ppl shouldn't complain if the clues are kinda obvious if they have a lack of clues. The FPS connection checks out with the Shotgun association His name connects with the fact on both nights he came out from nowhere A weaker clue can be seen in his I.D. "Shadowdrag[-/b-]oo[-/b-]n". Shadow Dragoon => Stalker (Sc2) which can blink in and out of trouble similar to just appearing from no where, just like Mr Blonde. Rather strong clue connection here and considering the fact he is also on the Ghar list (1/7 remember?) i strongly believe this is your mafia man Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 19:49 Plexa wrote:*sigh* while you make some valid points Alethios you continually resort to claiming the moral high ground in all the arguments while not developing your own. TBH some of your points are really weak.. its a shame you are a fellow kiwi Anyway, Ace's plans will obviously work. As far as i can tell is that this plan isn't to identify all mafia 100% in the first go, its to build a better picture of the towns make up and change various probabilities when calculating risk. This is justification enough for me to go along with his plan. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:07 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. - Seems to be the leader of the group - No preferred method of killing (darts/glass and kicking so far) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. - Sickly appearance -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". - Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ - Perhaps a team player (supportive) - Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue) + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. - Comes from nowhere (dark -> light) (- Possibly connected to a smiley face) - Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1) + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. - Blockade (- not present in night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. - Knives = weapon of choice - Leaves his victims to die slowly (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Stomped a head + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. - Remorseful, respectful - "Made his mark" - Didn't kill anyone in night (- Kill bill reference) + Show Spoiler + Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. - Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling - Uses his legs to kill - Hit in the face with a rock (- Not present in opening night) (- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Possibly yells alot -> Thematic talking - Armed with weapons, used his fists however + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. - Second time he has been knocked over + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. - Very Strong - Fits a bouncer image - Brutal + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Quiet, well composed - Sadistic, violent - Able fighter -> Eager to fight (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - Concerned with who will be mayor - Last word + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. - Cuts phonelines Total mafia count: 20 Max is obviously a vigilante so i won't analyze him. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:51 Plexa wrote:towns fault in my opinion... its a result of the high organisation that we have undertaken and well, the mafia is mafia and has to what it has to do to win. This is a game of war, and the mafia got one up on us - lets take it as a chink in our armor and move on Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:45 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. - Sickly appearance -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) For Sidewinder i have recommend we look at Queasy further. He's made very little input into this thread (lying low, typical mafia strategy) despite the fact he's posted within the past two days. Also i can't find any other suspect which corresponds to the traits of sidewinder as well as queasy. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 00:42 Plexa wrote:meh i wouldve changed my vote to vote for ghar, but well i was still going according to the old plan and then with chuiu's post and all i feel bad if i change my vote Posted in night7/main_page.173 Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:34 Plexa wrote:Why oh why did we lynch wurm -.-; Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:39 Plexa wrote:No he wasnt, Ace just got really suspicious of him for a rather pathetic reason Now that Ghar's come up green, i'm beginning to lose faith in the clues... especially after checking the last set of clues and how they relate (they are all really quite vague =/) Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 04:51 Plexa wrote:We got lucky on day one that mandalor was an idiot.. im going to try find out what mafia he was though - might help us + Show Spoiler + Mandalor could have been; Mr White Black Mamba King Brown Snake The Wolf Mr Blue Snake Charmer Cottonmouth Of these Snake Charmer seems to fit the best... a google search of Mandalor's name reveals a common theme of knights (despite there being no real meaning for the name) Seeing as there are no other clues anywhere in mandalor's profile/quote etc im 99% he was snakecharmer Perhaps this means that each mafia has one particular trait identified and used for making clues? That seemed to be a theme last game... i'm going to keep this in mind for future thought Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:07 Plexa wrote:i agree with Meta, the mafia last game were silent; so why are we lynching the outspoken?? Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:10 Plexa wrote:And therefore we end up lychine more townies! its a vicious cycle.. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:14 Plexa wrote:If you read my spoiler in my post above (one of them anyway) im 99% sure there is one aspect of a player associated to a mafia clue (e.g. Quesillada's "Real men proxy" linking to his strength) so a suspect like ghar with multiple clues pertaining to him is was never likely to be mafia =/ (as with shadowdrgn) Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 06:50 Plexa wrote:fair enough i dont know my starwars as well as you obviously! The link is still there, although swords dont correspond to bounty hunters.. maybe another link is better? Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 12:01 Plexa wrote:The original mafia pertaining to Ninja4ever was + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. - Knives = weapon of choice - Leaves his victims to die slowly (- Not present in opening night) The accuracy with the knives tipped us off to think of ninjas + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. - Comes from nowhere (dark -> light) (- Possibly connected to a smiley face) - Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1) This is the mafia that appears from the shadows (and likes shotguns ) + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) and this is the most recent example of ninja-esque behavior. The fact that he bowed is a clue imo. There are three similar characters in this way, the closest being California Mountain Snake (bowing doesn't add up) and Cottonmouth (knives > stars why?) Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:07 Plexa wrote:Ok, here is my list of suspicious people. Wizard as possibly California Mountain Snake + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) The connection here is between the wizards hat and the hat he took off as he bowed. If the hat becomes a theme wizard should be a suspect Amber[LighT] as Copperhead + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims From the connection between Carmel and Copperhead (im not great on accents though =/) str as Taipan Snake + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics No units = no power, no batteries = no power. The single point here is thematic and relates. Rather strong feeling about this one. MTF as Enigma + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right This is rather nice "The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out." hello Enigma's persona! rather sure about this clue too Queasy as Sidewinder + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. - Sickly appearance -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) The recurring sickness relates to Queasy more than any other person in this game. suresh0t as Mr Orange + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. - Cuts phonelines Garage connection, tools connection, there is a strong connection between these clues and this picture from his profile. MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) (Snake charmer might be Mandalor, possibly not given the mandalorian reference). His picture is of a sword, rather blatant clue - but so was tomissthemark. Also his quote advocates change which connects to another mafia member Also, i have my eye on Clazziquai (band reference), Sonuvbob (profile references, drop of activity), aZnvaLiaNce (asian connection + profile info), MoRe_mInErAls (god picture), Lysithea (quote)(nice profile pic, i love it ^^!), 0cz3c (latin quote, dealing with immortality), ahara_ (asian connection), Naib (picture and quote), BuGzlToOnl (breaking the code), Zeks (quote), rpf (quote). Those people have something there which can be attributed to one or more mafia but im not certain enough about the clues to say anything conclusive yet + Show Spoiler + while the clue links are rather tenuous, remember in mafia 1 how streched the clues were? one facet about each player was taken and inspired the clues.. this is what i've done here; taken one clue from people and matched it to a recurring theme in a mafia. This is what makes me so confident in my accusations if i die tonight, you know im on to something Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:28 Plexa wrote:Energies was my original suspect for Taipan but its too obvious There's just too many clues pertaining to him and taipan and thats NOT chuiu's style let me make some lists up + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently - (Australian connection, Taipan is a highly venomous snake) - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics Energies; Australian = connects to Taipan Snake as taipan is a highly venomous snake from australia Energy = recurring theme in taipans character (but only electrical energy) Its too obvious to be true imo (look at ghar for example and shadowdrgn, we had comparable amounts of evidence pointing to them as we do to energies and we were wrong - this is because chuiu doesn't write clues in this style) Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:41 Plexa wrote:Thats currently my task, will report back once i've done some research on what the fuck mandalors are Possibilities; - Mr White - Black Mamba - King Brown Snake - Mr Blue - The Wolf - Cottonmouth - Mr Blonde Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 14:21 Plexa wrote:Actually, allow me to elaborate further; Let's take Quesadilla. He was the strongman from the last mafia game, but where does this link come from? His name is representative of a food (maxican) and there are no obvious quotes linking to that. However THIS picture says 'real men proxy', the connection? Real Men -> buff and tough -> link; how abstract is that?! Let's take Fen. In order to get the connection you needed to wikipedia "Fen" and you'll see that it was a quagmire -> mud -> boots and that was the main clue. Let's take Empyrean. The connection was in his name looked up, which referred to position and god which was his single recurring clue throughout etc Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 17:41 Plexa wrote:YESSSS MY CLUE IDEAS WERE RIGHT ok now we know how to nail them i will construct somewhat of an argument to support this EDIT: i will try to do this today or tomorrow Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 10:05 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" - Seems to be the leader of the group - No preferred method of killing (darts/glass and kicking so far) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) This mafia was Queasy + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". - Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ - Perhaps a team player (supportive) - Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue) + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. - Comes from nowhere (dark -> light) (- Possibly connected to a smiley face) - Shotgun user (possibly killing DD on day1) + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself - Blockade - Thematic meeting of faces/gazes - Gets pushed out of the way regualarly + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - Throws sharp objects (knives/nails) - Delays killing for a long time - Notice the repetition of numbers; 2-4-3-3-5-6-1 What could this sequence be alluding to? + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Stomped a head + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. - One shot kill - targets the head + Show Spoiler + Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. - Works closely with Eddie, possibly direct underling - Uses his legs to kill - Hit in the face with a rock (- Not present in opening night) (- Potentially associated with 4 horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Possibly yells alot -> Thematic talking - Armed with weapons, used his fists however + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. - Second time he has been knocked over + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. - Very Strong - Fits a bouncer image - Brutal + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right --- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Quiet, well composed - Sadistic, violent - Able fighter -> Eager to fight (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - Concerned with who will be mayor - Last word + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. - Cuts phonelines Total mafia count: 19 (one dead but unknown) Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 11:27 Plexa wrote:It's time for a round of Plexa's suspects! + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - Throws sharp objects (knives/nails) - Delays killing for a long time - Notice the repetition of numbers; 2-4-3-3-5-6-1 What could this sequence be alluding to? Theres obviously Ninja4ever that could relate to this. However, i feel that this clue doesn't quite fit correctly. However, the repetition of these numbers has got me thinking. Of all the people in this game fanatacist has the most numbers in his profile. Also his name pertains quite well to the character of Cottonmouth Therefore i have arrived at the conclusion that cottonmouth = fanatacist for the time being + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords Given the mass of hate towards aarav recently, i mayaswell state here that if he is going to be mafia he will be snake charmer. His picture is a zealot, zealots have "swords" as we all know. The method of attacking is strikingly similar to a zealot. This could be enough to warrant a clue based lynching in support of the other evidence. + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. - One shot kill - targets the head HotZhot is my primary suspect here. Notably because he has such good aim and whatnot. However, i am hesitant to convict him at this stage because of this; His profile image looks like a wolf person - this means (imo) that he cannot be the character "The Wolf" with such a strong connection to the name. Up to the town i guess! + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) Now, this is a clue which i am almost 100% certain is correct given the death of queasy. This image is going to convict someone of being Taipan Snake. You see, Taipan Snake always uses some form of DC electricity. Last night it fired out a "direct current", the night before he removed batteries (from a DC circuit afaik) and the night before he was jamming electricity. There is a strong connection between the image and Taipan. There are no other characters which this could possibly be (str maybe, but he doesn't explain night 4) therefore; Taipan Snake is d.arkive Note that his quote about the refrigerator applied to night two clue of electronics in the house going haywire. Note also that the "mysterious device" refers to that weird thing that the creature is holding + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right --- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread Enigma is proving to be an enigma for me... he is a difficult character to pin down exactly and this is really annoying. There are two candidates for enigma as i see it, MTF and MidnightGladius. For MTF; Pertains quite well to Enigma's personality and therefore is strong evidence connecting the two While for MidnightGladius; Also connects quite well I need more evidence to pursue either any further + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) The game is up SoMuchBetter + Show Spoiler + You are the only person in this game with any sort of reference to a hat. This small clue (as with the case of queasy) is enough evidence to suggest SMB is guilty. + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself - Blockade - Thematic meeting of faces/gazes - Gets pushed out of the way regualarly This thematic meeting of faces is really pushing me towards nemY as a suspect. + Show Spoiler + Also im 99% sure that Mr Blue is Mandalor, just waiting for one more night to confirm this Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 13:16 Plexa wrote:The clue stands imo and therefore Hotshotz cannot be the Wolf Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 17:54 Plexa wrote:building upon what aarav has said, there is only one tenuous clue linking him to mafia and i for one cannot stand by it as hard evidence. Until i see more, in my eyes aarav is green. For now lets focus on killing more mafia and get this kill count down! Let's check out d.arkive, fanatacist and SMB where we've got one good link to them | ||
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118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 18:35 Plexa wrote:I respect your analysis Scorch, he porbably doesn't like it because he is a suspect under your analysis ! Here is my take on your clues + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. - One shot kill - targets the head Scorch's analysis Candidates for The Wolf: SoMuchBetter because The Wolf does the nail throwing "so much better" than the other mafia. Medium clue. - This is an interesting link, but it only corresponds to the most recent nights activity. The first night he seems almost remorseful when he kills Chuiu with no hint of him doing anything better. Perhaps you could make a case for 'leaving his mark' being a cocky thing to do, but i dno. suresh0t because The Wolf kills with one sure shot. Medium clue. - Fair enough, would correspond nicely with the first night too as it was exactly one shot to the head and he was dead. Nails could possibly correspond to his picture. He would be my other pick for the wolf HotZhot for the same reason, HotShot being the same as a SureShot. Medium clue. - We have overlap here. Less confident about this connection due to the similarity between his picture and the image of a wolf therefore not likely to be the wolf. LostYourSkills' signature indicates that he is very skilled, like The Wolf. Medium clue. - I can see the connection here, but it doesn't exactly line up with the first days clue. More evidence is needed before we can do anything with this. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - Throws sharp objects (knives/nails) - Delays killing for a long time - Notice the repetition of numbers; 2-4-3-3-5-6-1 What could this sequence be alluding to? Scorch's analysis RtS)Night[Mare could be Cottonmouth placing 5 nails, then stabbing him with 6 more. Nightmare was born on the 5th of June(6). Very weak clue, but maybe smart and obscure enough to be a strong clue? There are a couple more possible combinations of numbers in this paragraph, this was just the one i stumbled upon. - I saw Nightmare's as well and thought similar thoughts. The recurring theme of numbers is somewhat interesting. However, i beleive fanatacist pertains stronger to the clue of numbers. ulszz's signature indicates that he is a noob (at throwing nails) and needs reminding (by The Wolf), so he could be Cottonmouth. Medium clue. - Cottonmouth knows what he is doing i think. He purposely tortures his victims - although i might be wrong. Eti307's could be Cottonmouth. signature: "A person who never made a mistake (missing a lot of nail throws) never tried anyething new (trying to kill someone with nails)". Plus the numbers could point at his name: stabbing the victim with 1+6=7 nails, then throwing 3 more, 0 of which hit the target. Medium clue plus a weak one. - he was used last game and has little content left to use. There would be a time clue imo not this clue LostYourSkills could be Cottonmouth, having lost all his nail throwing skills and thus missing thrice. Medium clue. - As before, i beleive Cottonmouth to be highly skilled, i may be proven wrong, but as it stands hes skillful - but sadistic suresh0t could be Cottonmouth using nails because he wields a hammer in his profile pic. who else would kill with nails? Strong clue. - Disagree here, this only pertains to last nights kills not the first round of clues (knives). Therefore i doubt any connection here + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) Scorch's analysis str could be Taipan Snake grilling his prey with electrical power. Weak clue. - str was a suspect before last nights clue. The no power clue is really lame considering 3 nights haven't actually had the power cut Zeks could be Taipan Snake. His signature reminds me of an unresponsible policeman abusing his power to kill a guy with a tazer (with electrical power). Medium clue. - There is no real concrete evidence here. This great responsibility quote has me thinking he's more suited to enigma than Taipan. HotZhot could be Taipan Snake, "frying" Empyrean with the great heat signaled by HotZhot's name. Weak clue. - Only pertains to last night, not all 4 nights Energies' name relates to the tazer gun. Medium to strong clue, but maybe too obvious. - Energies has too many clues against him for it to be true. This may seem like a contradiction - but look at Ghar and shadowdrgn who had multiple strong clues linking to them whereas Queasy had one clue only and he was mafia. Energies has wayyy too many clues against him for him to be mafia. Theres the energy connection, the australian connection etc which is too strong. Lynching him will be fruitless and i am 100% sure of this fact + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right --- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread Scorch's analysis HotZhot could be Enigma smiling back, according to his signature. Weak clue. - Pertains only to last night, doesn't consider the character of Enigma as a whole Caller could be Enigma "calling" his friends over to help him. Weak clue. - Again, only pertains to the most recent events not the grand scheme Unfogiven_ve could be smiling Enigma due to his smilie signature. Weak clue. - As above KorvspaD could be Enigma being fond of his friends (signature: "a friend with weed is a friend indeed..."). Medium clue. - As above BuGzIToOnI could be Enigma who loves his friends because of his signature. Weak clue. - As above Note, when looking for clues pertaining to Enigma you need to consider his whole character, which at the moment is rather enigmatic. I think MTF is a much stronger clue here, but then again ned more evidence to make a call on enigma Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:09 Plexa wrote:any particular reason? Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:33 Plexa wrote:personally i beleive he is Mr Orange Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:45 Plexa wrote:so yea that brings the suspect list to: d.arkive suresh0t Hotzhot SoMuchBetter MTF Posted in night7/main_page.185 Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 20:40 Plexa wrote:Why don't they just pm it to Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 19:44 Plexa wrote:fusion, last game you were so active in your pms to me with your suspects and so on why no analysis this game? Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 23:20 Plexa wrote:I have to agree with you pink, fusionsdf has lacked the traits he showed in the last round of mafia (even though he wasn't even in the game). Although i am having trouble sticking him to a character (there are a number of possibilities) but that being said, theres enough to warrant some kind of lynch here Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 23:26 Plexa wrote:ace is roleblocked afaik Posted in night7/main_page.188 Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 11:45 Plexa wrote:how so? take a look at the clue linking to Quesadila last game, it was his picture of "Real men proxy" which linked to his strength - hows that for stretching it Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 14:54 Plexa wrote:oops yes corrected Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:17 Plexa wrote:Codename =/= Clue Reasoning falls to pieces after that Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:52 Plexa wrote:yea go me! only person voting SMB Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:58 Plexa wrote:i resent that "lost" statement chuiu! tomorrow we will see red flow! Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 15:21 Plexa wrote:Names are from movies (Quentin muvies, kill bill and reservoir dogs iirc) And yes, each person is one mafia 99% sure (see Queasy -> sidewinder clues) Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 16:15 Plexa wrote:yes Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 16:56 Plexa wrote: Trancestorm (13) aZnvaLiaNce <------------- ??? discuss MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 20:41 Plexa wrote:ROFL SUP MOTHERFUCKERS D.ARKIVE WAS MAFIA OMYGOD IM GOOD? yo town, im on to some serious shit ya know what im saying?! i got hit, TWICE and lived motherfuckers die you mafia scum shit fuck double lynch time to mop the floor ok Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:26 Plexa wrote:this is the pivotal time in this mafia game - there is an abundance of clues and i encourage every single active member to look for the traits i post up. Seeing as i am now a principle Mafia target everyone needs to know how to analyse these clues - beacuse MAFIA CAN'T BULLSHIT THEIR WAY OUT OF A CLUE. Hence i present to you; How to catch Mafia 101 By Plexa When pinning mafia to clues there a number of factors one must consider; Clues take a single point from a player and extrapolate it out into a thematic idea. Example one; d.arkive had his profile picture linking to "DC" and the mysterious device. That single image was extrapolated into a thematic use of electricity and a recurring device. One feature -> Mafia theme Example two; Queasy had no information in his profile at all, thus the only clue could come from his name - Queasy. By definition Queasy means feeling sick. This definition was extrapolated into a thematic "sickly appearance" of sidewinder. One feature -> Mafia theme Example three; Links aren't always clearcut, Quesidilla from Mafia 1 had a in his profile picture a sign saying "Real men proxy". This quote was extrapolated into the thematic strength/close quarters engagements with his character in mafia one - a hard clue but still; One feature -> Mafia theme Players with many connections to a possible clue are not mafia. This overlaps with point one, but it really needs to be emphasized. Example 1; Ghar had many clues pertaining to him (e.g the Mayoral campaign, various clue references) and there was a really strong case for him being mafia. However, as the clues weren't pertaining to a single defining feature of him - he was innocent and we lynched him. Example 2; Shadowdrgn had a number of references/dual meanings of his name and profile which linked nicely to Mr Blonde. However there was simply too stronger connection between the two - and sadly (as we learned) he too turned out to be town. Its important to remember this as it allows many people to be instantly discarded from being Mafia Never mix traits up between mafia Unlike the first game, these clues are pertain to one mafia only. For instance the thematic idea of gazes meeting (before day 4) was linked to two different mafia therefore is NOT a thematic connection to a mafia; merely a coincidence. Mafia codenames have no relevance to the player. The names are derived from various Tarentino movies and hence purely placeholders. This is important when you look at characters like Mr Pink in relation to HeRoS)PiNK and the like who have pink in their name. The connection is purely fictitious therefore avoid it at all times. Great, now we have a basic understanding of how these clues work, so how do we apply them? There are two methods, i identified Queasy using one, and d.arkive using the other so both are valid methods. Take a player, analyse his profile for possible themes that could arise This is how i caught d.arkive. I saw his profile and checked out his varying bits of information. Keeping in mind a vague idea of Mafia traits (e.g. Taipan Snakes use of "direct current") his picture eventually clicked with me. DC, direct current. Upon investigating the connection further - everything could be extrapolated from the picture; mafia identified Take a mafia role, analyse the traits against various profiles This is how i caught Queasy. Thinking about Sidewinder i knew that there would be a clue linking to sickness. After checking out a number of profiles i came to the conclusion that the most relevant clue to sickness was indeed Queasy - and hence it transpired that he was sidewinder. Both of these methods are suited for particular situations. I'll do an example, analysing two confirmed innocent players - myself and TranceStorm. I will analyse myself using method one, and trancestorm using method two with the mafia Taipan Snake. Plexa Name: No meaning what so ever, no definitions, no abstract meanings no nothing. (origins actually come from the number "Googalplex" taking the plex at the end and adding an A, but anyone who gets that is a freak) Signature: Clues possibly deriving from being a fan of someone, admiration perhaps? Progamer references are unlikely to be clues thus can be disregarded. Also perhaps a clue linking to the blogs - perhaps writing utencils? Profile: Picture is of Plexa standing in from of the Tan Tien Buddha in Hong Kong thus perhaps some religious connection or perhaps a connection to asia Rationalisation Using the absolute clue hypothesis (see Clue analysis 201) clues must pertain to the entire section of the profile. Thus, as the signature has two very different focii a combination of fanboyism and blogging has no connections to any of the mafia profiles. Similarly when analyzing the picture clue we can reject any asian connections as there are far too many clues like that about hence we should focus on finding a religious theme - which is absent from mafia. Hence Plexa is innocent. TranceStorm + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) When we glance over at TranceStorm profile and try to match it to the mafia we get; Name: You have an interesting juxtaposition of tranquility against ferocity thus you would expect some kind of explosive mafia, which is calm then erupts in a quick flurry. The alternative is to have links to a Storm - which only somewhat applies Signature: Blank Profile: Blank As we are looking for an Electricity connection, the Storm (and hence ID) don't really apply to this aspect of Taipan. Also, the juxtaposition of the name is also lacking from Taipan - hence it is fairly safe to assume that TranceStorm is not Taipan Snake and hence Trancestorm is not mafia. Well there you have it, happy analysing! I encourage anyone and everyone to start analysing clues for yourself. It's really easy, and with this outline the town should be hitting mafia in no time. Expect to see an updated list of profiles very shortly!! Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. - Seems to be the leader of the group - No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far) - Seems to be very strong + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) This mafia was Queasy + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". - Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ - Perhaps a team player (supportive) - Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue) + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. - Catches opponents off gaurd - Very physical, gets up close to opponents + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. - Thematic event of being pushed out of the way (- Possible theme of meeting faces) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - Throws sharp objects (knives/nails) - Delays killing for a long time - Notice the repetition of numbers; 2-4-3-3-5-6-1 BREAKTHROUGH: Sum of numbers mentioned on each night = 12, 12 is the magic number people find me that number! UPDATE: L = 12th letter + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. - Brutally attacks heads + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. - Lack of a theme at the moment + Show Spoiler + Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. - Uses his legs to kill - Recurring theme of bruised faces + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Possibly yells alot -> Thematic talking - Armed with weapons, used his fists however + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) This mafia was d.arkive + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. - Thematic event of Mr Red losing his balance and falling down --- Very strong theme + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. - Very Strong - Fits a bouncer image - Brutal + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right --- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Quiet, well composed - Sadistic, violent - Able fighter -> Eager to fight (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - Last word This mafia was Mandalor + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. - Recurring idea of being unable to call for help --- This could be a pivotal clue Total mafia count: 17 Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:13 Plexa wrote:Basically, if you want to gain some reputation try to find profiles to fit Mr Orange and Mr Red's patterns. I have a number of suspects for each but i want to see how the town analysing things so i know the town won't be lost if i get killed Also, Cottonmouth = 12, its the recurring number Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:32 Plexa wrote:L, good game sir nice find pink Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:38 Plexa wrote:as long as i am alive i dont want to see anymore lynchings around people without any substantial evidence to back it up. We're at a stage where we have a TON of information to go on, so there is no reason we shouldn't be using it. If you think araav is mafia - great - prove it EDIT: @ pink, i'll check it Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:47 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Appearance 1 Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" Appearance 2 The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Appearance 3 Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right Truth be told enigma is a real enigma for me as there seems to be no common theme. But Siefu's quote is a perfect match for appearance 1 and 3. "No more of this bullshit protection" - implies that Enigma was a bodyguard type role but really was mafia The the note clue from the last appearance also reinforces this However, appearance two is still eluding me... although that quote of his loosely applies... i'll give Siefu a 80% chance of being mafia Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 22:53 Plexa wrote:hence loosely applies.. its enough to get some searches going on these people though + Show Spoiler + List:Mandalor - 10 mafia, have removed dead ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L suresh0t randombum Lysithea Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Alethios 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Unforgiven_ve Energies iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito fanatacist ieatkids5 SonuvBob Siefu butidigress Theres also people like SMB, SoleSteeler, MidnightGladius and suresh0t which are all suspects Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 23:19 Plexa wrote:I'd also like to propose that smurfingchobo is mafia, consider that and tell me what you think Also consider Siefu as Joe Also, investigate SoMuchBetter and LoStYouRSkiLLS Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:20 Plexa wrote:People, fuck the lists. They are a great aid but we shouldn't be pushing them any further. Rather than take a guess and go "OH EASY 1/3 CHANCE = INSTA WIN" sit back, check the players, and see what the clues spell out. Rational arguments based on clues are hard to deny, argue or even counter. On that note L is mafioso. Yes Cottonmouth threw 15 knives, but the important thing how the clues are worded. Why say that he threw 3 knives into each of his legs and 3 into his back? Why is it worded so? Summing the numbers stated you get 12 and given the lack of evidence pertaining to L this is a damming clue against him. This clue is very much alike to Queasy and Sidewinder and should not be lightly dismissed simply. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:31 Plexa wrote:Fair enough, but for now my suspicions are sufficiently high to be thinking L. In your case you have the descending numbers 15, 14, next comes 13 - find be a profile which has descending numbers from 15 and ill change my mind. For now then (i suppose) look at Siefu (who's been neglected) Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:59 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2008 12:51 LTT wrote: Now I'm confused. None of the numbers add up to 12 unless you start making a complicated set of rules which eliminates the evidence against L but he is still your leading suspect until we find evidence for a clue that might not be a clue? As I said in my PM, we have to be wary of holding grudge suspisions and forcing evidence to fit those descriptions. Last game, I exchanged PMs with SonuvBob trying to figure out who was mafia. During the game, Live2Win used his mod powers to edit another player's post. That pissed me off so I was convinced that we has mafia. Every day I'd get more and more upset at the town for missing painfully obvious clues. I was convinced he was lying about being a medic. It turns out, he wasn't. If you start with a suspect who you are sure is mafia, you are sure to find "evidence" in all those words from Chuiu and the thousands of posts in this thread. If we are going to play based on clues and evidence, which seems to be our best shot at this point, we need to keep the suspicion proportionate to the evidence. When the evidence disappears, our suspicions should diminish proportionately. What you are currently doing doesn't seem to be different from Ace deciding to lynch qrs because he is upset with him. It can't come from anger and then lead to evidence. You have been the best at deciphering clues thus far so we need you in top form to keep seeing red text on day and night posts. Even if L, or qrs, turns out to be mafia, we've made the wrong move if there are any better suspects with evidence behind them. Over the long run, we are going to die if we play like this. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:06 Plexa wrote:Strong mafia themes Mr Pink - Silent and Sadistic Mr Red - Continually fall over King Brown Snake - Gets pushed out of the way Mr Orange - Recurring theme of being unable to call for help Black Mamba - Recurring theme of bruised faces Mr Blonde - Always catches victims off guard/by surprise Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:20 Plexa wrote:lets do some motherfucking analysis on those 6 okay Alventenie Name: No meaning Signature: None Profile: None Picture: None Therefore unlikely to be mafia Imderek Name: He's derek -.-; Profile: "For thou dost know, O Damon dear, This realm dismantled was Of Jove himself; and now reigns here A very, very--pajock." - Hamlet Signature: keke Picture: none Clues are very few - would be working off perhaps the Hamlet quote (swordfights? xD). Seeing as he was mafioso last game, i doubt chuiu would have many more clues to link to him thus low probability of mafia. Evilmonkey Name: Could link to agility and sadism. Looking for mobility ala a monkey with traits of sadistic deaths Signature: It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to give them the finger. Picture: Hydralisk Profile: None Strongest clues from here are from his name. We'd be looking for the things i laid out above. Possibly some clues relating to rudeness as an alternative trait. As we haven't seen much of rudeness the clues would be from his name - which leads me to rank him highly as a mafia suspect. Fusionsdf Name: no idea, unlikely to be clue related anyway Signature: ☭ 1 word: awrsdrsom//Lim Ji Hye ! Picture: None Profile: Ascii art of leonidas and pic of some hot chick Clues from this could possibly be indecipherability. But more likely to be linked to his picture of Leonidas. Leonidas is pure muscle, pure strength. With a number of strength based characters roaming around (check out Mr Black for instance) it makes me think that fusion ranks highly as a mafia suspect. However, fusion sent me a detailed list on clues which i doubt a mafia would do Useless Name: self explanatory Picture: none Profile: none Signature: Favorite book: Organic Chemistry Clues here would be pertaining to either his sig or name. His sig is science related (no clues) while his ID has many interesting links. Let's look at King Brown Snake - he has a thematic problem of being pushed aside, he is rather useless. This is perhaps a strong clue and hence high chance of mafia. aznvaliance Name: asian valiance - valiance; The qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle) Picture: none Profile: "How can there be any meaning in the memory of such a being? What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion." —Sephiroth "Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake Signature: Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus Wow, lots of stuff to work with here. His name suggests leadership and being a hero (similar to eddie). His quotes all pertain to that similar theme. Very complicated character to pin down imo. So, in in conclusion; Not mafia: imderek, alventenie Medium mafia: useless, fusionsdf High mafia: aznvaliance, evilmonkey Im not confident enough in any of them however. Perhaps more people can help out Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:50 Plexa wrote:i hereby give my full support behind lynching evilmonkey (for reasons camlito pointed out to me and should do int he near future) and aznvalaince Aznvaliance = eddie evilmonkey = mr blonde Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:56 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. - Seems to be the leader of the group - No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far) - Seems to be very strong Here we go.... The clue persist to Asian Valiance's name. It fits the characterisation of a leader, one eager to fight and one thats not afraid (of lenwe). Definition, valiance means "The qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle)". Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:05 Plexa wrote:the fact that Yogurt was our mad hatter and characterised as a good fighter means the luck clues are someone less strong secondly thats was o-n-e night not all nights. Hence luck has very very little to do with eddie and the luck can be dismissed as filler Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:07 Plexa wrote:Awesome sdf now link it to a mafia, ill help you, it links to The Wolf and Taipan. Not eddie, nor joe. Its plot filler. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:08 Plexa wrote:I've seen the game one wrap up and there were PERSISTENT THEMES which linked to mafia. Not strange one offs - those turned out to be red herrings Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:12 Plexa wrote:Ok sig betted. However, if it turns out that those clue pertain to The Wolf (which imo they do) then i win the bet. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:18 Plexa wrote:Wow wtf fusion? Huge oversight on your behalf... There is a 1/6% chance of one of those people being mafia. I took the names from the list where there are KNOWN MAFIA and analysed them because everyone is so hung up over these lists. If you want to link eddie to luck, be my guest. imo he very well could be Lostyourskills (as he was lucky on night two and now is growing more habitual) but cmon fusion, offer SOME analysis insted of half baked quasi-conjecture. "WOW THERE IS LUCK IN DAY 2 OMG" doesn't get us anywhere, take it that step further - how does it link to someone? etcetcetc The fact that eddie "half-panicked" and not "panicked" is enough to create doubt around your attack i think. Furthermore, it fits the plotline that they need to his yogurt some time so he can flip the switch. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:22 Plexa wrote:It's better for townies to come out and try reason some arguments against various people and have them debated around and get dialouge going than for everyone to stay silent. It moves the town forward, and we can get somewhere. Rather than have a boring non-eventful mafia game. This is what i've done throughout the game, i've changed my suspects millions of times. Infact, i'm leaning towards Lostyourskills due to his quote. Atfirst he was lucky, now it is habitual skill Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:24 Plexa wrote:Looking at a macroscopic picture of eddie rather than a microscopic. You've always analysed based on the microscope, great, more power to you. I generally analyse on the macroscope and get a general picture. So far im 2-1 in my "100% mafia" lists; i'm yet to see anything from you yet Let's start right now. One of my initial suspects for eddie was lostyourskills after day 1 (chuiu had lost his mayoral skills). Now, however, it seems that eddies luck has turned into skill ala his quote. your opinion please? Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:38 Plexa wrote:ok, seeing as you can comprehend the statistiscs If aznvaliance is mafia then what does that mean? IF evilmonkey is mafia then what does that mean? Assuming you, imderek and alventenie are innocent what does that mean? Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:49 Plexa wrote:ok WITHDRAW VOTES FROM AZNVALIANCE today we should be voting seifu + evilmonkey unless someone has any objections? Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:52 Plexa wrote:yes ive just been caught up in the discussion of various points with people changing now Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:49 Plexa wrote:Given the lull in mafia activity, now is a good time to repost this How to catch Mafia 101 By Plexa When pinning mafia to clues there a number of factors one must consider; Clues take a single point from a player and extrapolate it out into a thematic idea. Example one; d.arkive had his profile picture linking to "DC" and the mysterious device. That single image was extrapolated into a thematic use of electricity and a recurring device. One feature -> Mafia theme Example two; Queasy had no information in his profile at all, thus the only clue could come from his name - Queasy. By definition Queasy means feeling sick. This definition was extrapolated into a thematic "sickly appearance" of sidewinder. One feature -> Mafia theme Example three; Links aren't always clearcut, Quesidilla from Mafia 1 had a in his profile picture a sign saying "Real men proxy". This quote was extrapolated into the thematic strength/close quarters engagements with his character in mafia one - a hard clue but still; One feature -> Mafia theme Players with many connections to a possible clue are not mafia. This overlaps with point one, but it really needs to be emphasized. Example 1; Ghar had many clues pertaining to him (e.g the Mayoral campaign, various clue references) and there was a really strong case for him being mafia. However, as the clues weren't pertaining to a single defining feature of him - he was innocent and we lynched him. Example 2; Shadowdrgn had a number of references/dual meanings of his name and profile which linked nicely to Mr Blonde. However there was simply too stronger connection between the two - and sadly (as we learned) he too turned out to be town. Its important to remember this as it allows many people to be instantly discarded from being Mafia Never mix traits up between mafia Unlike the first game, these clues are pertain to one mafia only. For instance the thematic idea of gazes meeting (before day 4) was linked to two different mafia therefore is NOT a thematic connection to a mafia; merely a coincidence. Mafia codenames have no relevance to the player. The names are derived from various Tarentino movies and hence purely placeholders. This is important when you look at characters like Mr Pink in relation to HeRoS)PiNK and the like who have pink in their name. The connection is purely fictitious therefore avoid it at all times. Great, now we have a basic understanding of how these clues work, so how do we apply them? There are two methods, i identified Queasy using one, and d.arkive using the other so both are valid methods. Take a player, analyse his profile for possible themes that could arise This is how i caught d.arkive. I saw his profile and checked out his varying bits of information. Keeping in mind a vague idea of Mafia traits (e.g. Taipan Snakes use of "direct current") his picture eventually clicked with me. DC, direct current. Upon investigating the connection further - everything could be extrapolated from the picture; mafia identified Take a mafia role, analyse the traits against various profiles This is how i caught Queasy. Thinking about Sidewinder i knew that there would be a clue linking to sickness. After checking out a number of profiles i came to the conclusion that the most relevant clue to sickness was indeed Queasy - and hence it transpired that he was sidewinder. Both of these methods are suited for particular situations. I'll do an example, analysing two confirmed innocent players - myself and TranceStorm. I will analyse myself using method one, and trancestorm using method two with the mafia Taipan Snake. Plexa Name: No meaning what so ever, no definitions, no abstract meanings no nothing. (origins actually come from the number "Googalplex" taking the plex at the end and adding an A, but anyone who gets that is a freak) Signature: Clues possibly deriving from being a fan of someone, admiration perhaps? Progamer references are unlikely to be clues thus can be disregarded. Also perhaps a clue linking to the blogs - perhaps writing utencils? Profile: Picture is of Plexa standing in from of the Tan Tien Buddha in Hong Kong thus perhaps some religious connection or perhaps a connection to asia Rationalisation Using the absolute clue hypothesis (see Clue analysis 201) clues must pertain to the entire section of the profile. Thus, as the signature has two very different focii a combination of fanboyism and blogging has no connections to any of the mafia profiles. Similarly when analyzing the picture clue we can reject any asian connections as there are far too many clues like that about hence we should focus on finding a religious theme - which is absent from mafia. Hence Plexa is innocent. TranceStorm + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. - Seems to be unarmed (not associated with weapons) -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) When we glance over at TranceStorm profile and try to match it to the mafia we get; Name: You have an interesting juxtaposition of tranquility against ferocity thus you would expect some kind of explosive mafia, which is calm then erupts in a quick flurry. The alternative is to have links to a Storm - which only somewhat applies Signature: Blank Profile: Blank As we are looking for an Electricity connection, the Storm (and hence ID) don't really apply to this aspect of Taipan. Also, the juxtaposition of the name is also lacking from Taipan - hence it is fairly safe to assume that TranceStorm is not Taipan Snake and hence Trancestorm is not mafia. Well there you have it, happy analysing! I encourage anyone and everyone to start analysing clues for yourself. It's really easy, and with this outline the town should be hitting mafia in no time. Expect to see an updated list of profiles very shortly!! Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:00 Plexa wrote:Lysithea you profile picture is so cool where did you get it from oh wow you stole my 5200th post haha Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 17:18 Plexa wrote:it doesn't change anything, ~opz~ is unlikely to be mafia anyway Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 17:33 Plexa wrote:fair enough, i would argue that the juxtaposition isn't a central argument but is something which increases the chance of him being innocent. But the clue should match pretty seamlessly to one particular profile trait of the mafia Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 18:48 Plexa wrote:From here what we do is think;<ul><li>Which mafia was evilmonkey, i think he was mr blonde but i might be wrong <li>Ace and co are patching the leak in the circle of trust so that should be covered <li>We look at the next set of clues and move from there</ul> Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:01 Plexa wrote:my little circle of detectives are cutting down that list as best we can - we hope to be able to squeeze the list to isolate the mafia in the list the best Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:29 Plexa wrote:While we're killing time... What's everyones opinion on Lostyourskills? Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 12:47 Plexa wrote:I'm rather out of "mafia" at the moment - celebrating my two year anniversary this weekend ^^ but the analysis you're doing looks really good. EvilMonkey is Mr Blonde, check out the second night "swooped down" - seeing as we intially pinned this trait to Shadowdrgn as the dragon could swoop - the monkey swooping fits perfectly. Mr Blonde perfectly fits EvilMonkey's name (just check the clues yourself, i know you're capable ^^) and we can safely assume thats who he is. As a side note for everyone, Chuiu seems to love pinning mafia to names - and that makes our lives quite easy. So far we've got evilmonkey and queasy on their name connections. This should be our first port of call when analysing clues in the future (imo), if you can pin clues to a name then bring it up and we just need to check if it fits (like in the L situation !) and then we can proceed to act on it Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:I feel that the spoinka clue is a little too streched, but not enough to disregard it entirely - let me do a quick check of names Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:08 Plexa wrote:And thats great I can't see any obvious name connections to Mr Red... however the name DamageControl stuck out at me =/ i don't know why Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:And there is a third camp which suggests the two camps are not mutually inclusive Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 14:04 Plexa wrote:*doh* fail scratch that third camp Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 20:24 Plexa wrote:oh hey MTF is not necessarily innocent anymore! Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 22:47 Plexa wrote:If i die can you guys hold a state funeral? Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 13 2008 22:54 Plexa wrote:by the way, my team of expert detectives have uncovered a interesting fact Either MidnightGladius is Mafia or MTF is mafia Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 00:40 Plexa wrote:unless you call my various fights with people like fusionsdf spam On a more serious note, here are my suspects: ---- HIGH---- SoMuchBetter - Californian Mountain Snake Jimtudor - Mr Red Lysithea - Moon clue ---MEDIUM------ nemY - Faces meeting Naib - Enigma/Joe (name translates as Viceroy) zeks - quote ieatkids5 SoleSteeler GeneralStan suresh0t Ninja4ever. | ||
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118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 01:46 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. Note to self, check who posted the clue Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 01:55 Plexa wrote:why is that blindalbino? Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 02:21 Plexa wrote:you don't think queasy was too obvious? nor d.arkive? Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 11:24 Plexa wrote:i dont think it necessary for me to say anything more before the day post Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:29 Plexa wrote:Nice catch MTF just goes to show that i need to update that list pretty badly after the day post Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:24 Plexa wrote:Thats from Californian Mountain Snake's clues Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 15:37 Plexa wrote:Traits are inaccurate but all the clues are here + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. - Seems to be the leader of the group - No preferred method of killing (darts/glass, steel bar and kicking so far) - Seems to be very strong + Show Spoiler + Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. -> recurring theme of sickness -> Sickness might be a result of heavy drinking (clue) - Periods of extreme skill and extreme unease (ie alternating in talent) (- One of four horsemen of the apocalypse?) This mafia was Queasy + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". - Used a gun to kill LucasWoJ - Perhaps a team player (supportive) - Perhaps a connection to a Car? (vehicles used in recent clue) + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. - Catches opponents off gaurd - Very physical, gets up close to opponents + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. - Thematic event of being pushed out of the way (- Possible theme of meeting faces) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - Throws sharp objects (knives/nails) - Delays killing for a long time - Notice the repetition of numbers; 2-4-3-3-5-6-1 + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Uses swords (- Possible kill bill reference) (- Not present in opening night) + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. - Brutally attacks heads + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. - Lack of a theme at the moment + Show Spoiler + Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. - Uses his legs to kill - Recurring theme of bruised faces + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Possibly yells alot -> Thematic talking - Armed with weapons, used his fists however + Show Spoiler + He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him French_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. -> Used broken glass recently -> Used a taser like device - Electronics connection -> Thematic disabling of electronics -> Thematic use of electricity (DC?) This mafia was d.arkive + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. - Thematic event of Mr Red losing his balance and falling down --- Very strong theme + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. - Very Strong - Fits a bouncer image - Brutal + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. - Righteous - Eager to to what he sees is right --- Perhaps the clue changing relates to actions in the thread + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. - Quiet, well composed - Sadistic, violent - Able fighter -> Eager to fight (- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse) + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. - Last word This mafia was Mandalor + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Has an accent (possibly southern USA) - Likes to torment/taunt his victims + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. - Respectful - Accurate to an insane degree (- Possibly asian) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. - Recurring idea of being unable to call for help --- This could be a pivotal clue Total mafia count: 17 Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:38 Plexa wrote:Im going to throw this out there for debate, SpiritoftheTuna as a possible candidate for Mr Red; what do you think Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 16:54 Plexa wrote:Mr Pink is likely to be Kuja900 And JimTudor is very likely to be mafia Agreed with Eddie as Lostyourskills, which i've thought since like day 2 haha frustration i suppose? Just thinking about substances that can be thrown and still be slippery and tinned tuna jumped right into my head Posted in night7/main_page.223 On April 14 2008 17:17 Plexa wrote:pretty much, i just feel that the two characters are very similar ... although its been a while since ive played ffix Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:00 Plexa wrote:Yo MTF; Day 2 = 42 (40+2) Day 4 = 44 (40+4) + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Perhaps mr brown was EvilMonkey Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:18 Plexa wrote:the second clue is much weaker, and hold very little relevance to the first section... theoretically we should have clues for BlindAlbino being an albino as well? perhaps the easily bruised face? Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:23 Plexa wrote:well then we need to think about names with two facets to them, and seem if they apply to the characters with changing traits (like thewolf) Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 18:28 Plexa wrote:That or something which has something to do with two Posted in night7/main_page.224 On April 14 2008 20:54 Plexa wrote:haha MTF is a machineeeee I've been trying to crack Mr Red for daysssss well, ever since i cracked Taipan Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 14 2008 23:30 Plexa wrote:actually nevermind Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 14 2008 23:41 Plexa wrote:list of blindalbino posts (<3 admin power) + Show Spoiler + BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 04:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link see ace knows whats up. BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 02:12 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link placeholder i explain one minute. Ok for one, i dont think lostyourskills is pointed to the luck clues. think it is too obvious. but if you look at eti's quote: A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new I think it could have a more subtle meaning and he could be eddie. also the 3-0-7 clue but this one is less damning. ieatkids : heros)pink already explained. pretty good. BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 01:53 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link anyway, after looking through clue discussion, new biggest suspects are ieatkids5 and eit307. dont know about you guys but I am voting them for tomorrow if double lynch BlindAlbino April 14, 2008 01:43 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link plexa, I hope you realize that red moon clue was for evilmonkey. caller pointed it out a while back. evilmonkey birthday was on the same day as the last red moon. surely no coincidence. BlindAlbino April 13, 2008 01:46 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ah nice job guys, shame for siefu but he had lots of clue so dont know. Caller correct when he said red moon was evilmonkey, so gj to him way back. not sure who I suspect anymore as most of my suspect are confirm innocent. BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 21:41 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link By request... change first vote evilmonkey change second vote siefu BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 21:40 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link just saw the news, changing my votes BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 13:58 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link I change my first vote to: evilmonkey Second vote: aznvaliance BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 13:57 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link before we proceed lynching off clues, we should get guaranteeds first. I hope people see and change vote to aznviance/evilmonkey. one is most certainly mafia. BlindAlbino April 11, 2008 10:13 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link pink, those are called lurkers. ppl dont post, but if see name they respond. its common yes? BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:10 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link I change my vote to str second vote siefu BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:09 Thread: Day 5 Votes Direct Link I vote for energies BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 22:07 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link hm not good. I am more concern about vigilante then blues, because best way to kill mafia. If names used are consistent it seem 1 vigilante already useless, used up 2 hit(ordell) this man basically townie now? 3 vigi hits left only overall. so lynch must be perfect. BlindAlbino April 10, 2008 11:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link hopefully he give priority in the 60 man game to active people BlindAlbino April 09, 2008 12:22 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link yes I agree with str. Three letter clue plus his quote strong. also agree suresh0t. seem obvious but maybe? hammer strong. besides this I do not know. energies seem mafia I suppose? not strong enough at point this. BlindAlbino April 09, 2008 10:49 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link I think need pay attention more to abstain list. there are probably mafia within because only 1 mafia is voting for trancestorm, which mean we are lynching our own townie. BlindAlbino April 08, 2008 08:40 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link from this lynch we conclude that energies and suresh0t are mafia. no question in mind for me. caller is not mafia my opinion, seems more bodyguard from posts. BlindAlbino April 07, 2008 08:33 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link if it is finding down, you can look up to see clearly. what is plan of action ace? BlindAlbino April 06, 2008 07:31 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link Is in interest of all who condemn the future, and live in past, to become one vote from outer dimension. With open mind and furnished instincts we will find mafia this lynch. From apple to zebra we take one step at time until we fall down stairs or build foundation. with this in your mind you know its correct vote araav. BlindAlbino April 05, 2008 01:49 Thread: Day 4 Votes Direct Link I vote for araav BlindAlbino April 04, 2008 04:48 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link please dont make plexa die...he share same clue with me I think he right as well. but dont draw attention like this...like flies to lightbulb mafia will swarm. BlindAlbino April 03, 2008 23:51 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link good job kill queasy. detective dropping like ball on child through puberty. how mafia get so luck i dont know. after new clue my big suspect str and energies, still bumatlarge suresh0t queasy no longer on suspect list becuz now he dead BlindAlbino April 02, 2008 12:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link how come mafia kill no one and who is new mr.lavender. 21 mafia name?? Remind me in Gobi desert. this mean all paramedics save target? BlindAlbino April 01, 2008 04:11 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link I thought mayor supposed be smart BlindAlbino March 30, 2008 13:18 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link On that list i still feel str is mafia like you point out...its why i vote him. besides this im not very sure. Queasy, MidnightGladius, Bugzltoonl all seem good as well and yes like nightmare say energies too. i use 2nd vote on him for the laast day. BlindAlbino March 30, 2008 09:47 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link why no red? BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 21:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link how can hack something with no password? so dumb kid here it not funny very much. game get boring i dont think i check this any more. BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 13:43 Thread: Day 3 Votes Direct Link Change my first vote from bumatlarge to str, second vote goes to Energies BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 12:21 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link araav has explain to do like 500 rooster in the midle of stampede BlindAlbino March 28, 2008 12:12 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link when the cow come home, its already past 12. BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:17 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ghar seem innocent. BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:09 Thread: Day 3 Votes Direct Link I vote bumatlarge BlindAlbino March 27, 2008 14:06 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link phew I alive again. my strong suspect are str energies bumatlarge from old/new clue.. BlindAlbino March 26, 2008 12:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link I dont want die Empyraen from china BlindAlbino March 26, 2008 12:00 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link can mafia stop kill people -_- very annoying BlindAlbino March 25, 2008 22:07 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link even 5000 marble do not make pyramid. lynch wurm without proof is rain storm BlindAlbino March 25, 2008 13:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link if glass is under the construction site, its ok to smash anyway? BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 16:16 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ok ace is deserve of respect seems. BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 10:28 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link would be like 500 china glasses breaking on asphault if ace trick us. BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 10:24 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link what clue has been linked to mandalor? why so many vote? i still think str = mafia BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 04:19 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link can detective confirm ace is town person at very least? "no detectives speaking up" is not enough...they could simply be using it on other people/inactive BlindAlbino March 24, 2008 04:08 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link why does ace want us to PM role? you cant just trust everyone this is quite dumb. BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 14:16 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ^mafia BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 01:07 Thread: Day 2 Votes Direct Link I vote for str BlindAlbino March 23, 2008 01:06 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link after reading all your thoughts, I feel the str clues are the strongest 3 letter name, and he cuts out the power...thats 2 strong clues so i will most likely vote for him BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 14:41 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link good leads everybody, i am not so good at this clue stuff. BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 02:20 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ok i understand, did not see first page BlindAlbino March 22, 2008 00:36 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link I was wonder, if mafia try hit me and i am "veteran" what happen? i dont understand BlindAlbino March 21, 2008 09:51 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link i still really dont have any suspicions of anyone, just seems like a couple people got riled up. keep our eyes on the prize guys. BlindAlbino March 21, 2008 09:28 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link i think its no problem if the lucker is under the land BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 22:15 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link huh? why was incontrol lynched I dont get it. hopefully you are better then that in the future ace BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 11:03 Thread: Day 1 Votes Direct Link Changing my vote from Ace to Randombum, seems Ace/empyrean are in this together from recent posts BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 10:56 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link how can we even be sure your a townie at this point. this is ridiculous. making the game harder for us then it needs to be BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:39 Thread: Day 1 Votes Direct Link I vote for Ace BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:38 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link alright well you seem to know what your talking about, so i will vote for you now BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:27 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link yea but what makes you think they will call you out as mafia if they know that will happen? what if the detective knows you are mafia but just stays silent for his own greed? that is what im getting at. BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 05:02 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link empyrean that is still flawed. that is assuming that one of the detectives will want to sacrifice himself(or lure paramedics) just to prove ace's innocence. as far as im concerned ace is pretty innocent BlindAlbino March 20, 2008 04:55 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link ace that seems very flawed. How will you know the other detectives besides empyrean is telling the truth? they would have to reveal themselves for this to happen. BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 13:01 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link Voting patterns is important as well. because most of the mafia members will lurk so you can't tell what they act like. BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 11:44 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link just declaring that im voting for him... empyrean seems mafiaish he keeps jumping at people. not yet ace...i want to see how the votes pan out BlindAlbino March 19, 2008 11:26 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link Well hopefully we can get a good mayor/pardoner this time around. Tracil was completely useless last game, and the whole lynching FS thing was a joke. If we are gonna elect someone, has to be someone that people actually like so we dont get another bandwagon lynch. I vote Ace for Mayor. BlindAlbino March 18, 2008 21:52 Thread: TL Mafia 2 [Night 5] Direct Link lots of candidates for mayor hm Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 11:16 Plexa wrote:If midnightgladius is red, MTF is indeed green, as is smurfingchobo, L and unsoundlogic. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:29 Plexa wrote:Ace ^^^^^^^ Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 21:04 Plexa wrote:qrs, the day you bring something to the table is the day i take you seriously. You have done nothing but criticize everyone doing hard work. (Ace, MTF etc) jeez man, do some analysis/work and stop bitching Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 23:01 Plexa wrote:Id just like to say that i support MTF's findings for the following mafia; Eddie as LostYourSkills MidnightGladius as Snake Charmer Crazie-Penguin as King Brown Snake 0cz3c as Copperhead And JimTudor as mafia, although not necessarily Mr Blonde Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 23:15 Plexa wrote:that goes without saying i think Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:00 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. - Initially he got lucky shots in - Later posts reveal skill in what he does + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. - Joe is supportive of his team mates -- You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not -- "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. -- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. - Fairly physical - No really solid theme + Show Spoiler + King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. - Short - 'Slapped' and 'maddend' - We should be looking at crazie penguin imo + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 - The numbers... they are annoying me immensely + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Slashing and associated with the sword + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. - Favors brutal blows to the head + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. - Seems to have a two part clue -- Very accurate -- Somewhat remorseful/respectful + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. - Indecipherable - Find the player linking to that and we have a winner + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. - Constantly falling over - Associated in throwing a substance + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. - Extremely physical - Perhaps connected with stopping things in their tracks + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. - "Ugly look" seems rather pivotal - Charging + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. - Sadistic but a skilled fighter at the same time - Seems to be fast as well + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. - Chainsaw, sounds like an obvious clue (seeing as he's only been in two posts, hence lack of clues to write to him) + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. - Gives people a choice - Also has an accent + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. - "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat - Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon (- Ninja4eva?) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. - Recurring theme of being unable to call for help Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 12:34 Plexa wrote:nice to see that we picked up on alot of the same information MTF Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 13:00 Plexa wrote:Is it just me, or does Mr BRown remind you of a caveman? Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 19:55 Plexa wrote:BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. Interesting quote I beleive L is mafia; there is a 1/3 chance using the list and his persona fits that of "L" from deathnote Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 20:46 Plexa wrote:All of the Mobsters names in the clue section can be linked to a Quentin Tarantino movie. The only exception is, fittingly, Enigma. I like Enigma could be the saboteur Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 20:58 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Okay i've figured out Mr Brown Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling. Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands. This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER; The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous. DrDragoon this game you really were mafia + Show Spoiler + Fairly active prior to role release, only voting and random comments; Voted for: Randombum for mayor Kuja900 on Day 2 Abstain on Day 3 Abstain on Day 4 No vote on Day 5 Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 16 2008 23:59 Plexa wrote:Note that Mr Brown was persuaded AGAINST using his gun by Mr Pink in night 3, and in the second night his role was very very small, last night's clue perplexes me somewhat but i just have to draw on the fact that is his primary weapon which still leaves open the possibility of more physical attacks - he is a solider after all. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:21 Plexa wrote:Crazie-Penguin as King Black Snake: + Show Spoiler + Definite clues: He is very short and doesn't appear to be human/appears to be deformed as he is "a strange man". I believe this is a strong allusion to the person not being human, as Chuiu can't just come right out and say such. Crazie-Penguin: Penguins are short and would most definitely be strange looking if assumed a man. Also note this: King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground Slapped is a rather specific phrase. A penguin cannot punch, but they could slap. And this: Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake Maddened is, again, a specific phrase. Madness is a term for insanity, or craziness. Credits to MTF Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:34 Plexa wrote:everytime we don't have double lynch we have tons of suspects, then the double lynch rolls around we have 1 suspect haha i mean, atm we have L as mafia Penguin as likely mafia DrDragoon as likely mafia Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:56 Plexa wrote:qrs, there is enough evidence to warrant a lynching of L apart from Ace's judgement so much so that there is a 1/3 chance of him being mafia btw your analysis on suresh0t is flawed - point me towards a mafia who has had information come from all three parts of their profile? suresh0t is in the ghar/gladius/shadow basket as far as i am concerned Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:33 Plexa wrote:I think L is right, given that he is blue (0.00000005% chance btw) then its super likely the mafia will kill him off tonight. If he lives, we can easily lynch him tomorrow. The rationale here is, why waste a lynch on L while there is still a minute chance that he is innocent. Lynching a mafia today won't decrease the kill count so we can take some time and lynch craziepenguin instead, lynching L tomorrow on the double lynch Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:34 Plexa wrote:roleblocked Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:42 Plexa wrote:Well that could be explained if he used his beak to grab him - and then losing his balance because he lunged forward to grab him Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:51 Plexa wrote:In the world of mafia its plausible.. but unlikely to be real i dno.. i think it holds, theres certainly enough evidence to warrant a lynching imo... although i feel DrDragoon is also a very strong candidate as Mr Brown; + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling. Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands. This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER; The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous. Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time DrDragoon this game you really were mafia + Show Spoiler + Fairly active prior to role release, only voting and random comments; Voted for: Randombum for mayor Kuja900 on Day 2 Abstain on Day 3 Abstain on Day 4 No vote on Day 5 Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 13:50 Plexa wrote:100% agree, the more people we get active the better the town is If me, MTF, fusionsdf and a bunch of others get knocked off then where will the town be?! Obviously, if you guys are also analysing then yano, town won't be as fucked haha Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 20:22 Plexa wrote:Even if L is the saboteur Ace was roleblocked TODAY thus cannot be role blocked tomorrow... AND we don't have anyone left really to roleblock haha Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 22:16 Plexa wrote:Another mafia bites the dust; + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. In the first set of clues, Mr Black prevents harm to Copperhead and in effect controls all the damage that JeeJee is able to inflict (note the highlighted passage). In the second set of clues Mr Black talks about "risk" and how Decaf is too much of a risk to stay alive Now, this all coincides nicely with a certain name: DamageControl, join your buddies in mafia hell Just read that passage again and again and keep damagecontrol in your mind and you'll see that the connection is obvious Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 22:22 Plexa wrote:?? has nothing to do with Mr Black sadly i beleive you are referring to the vomit on the ground in day 2 or 3 NOTE: DC is off the mandalor list 18/20 mafia Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 22:39 Plexa wrote:just oh my fucking god, Mr Red has been unveiled... + Show Spoiler + Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. (faeces?) The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger (family guy connection?) and instead went to call the police. (makes sense if some guy was hurling shit at your window) Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard (because hes just a little monkey) but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it (banana?) and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back (fits a monkey) and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. Just oh my god... Look at all the stuff that in that spoiler and thus we arrive at the conclusion that Mr Red was EvilMonkey Rofl we suck Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 22:51 Plexa wrote:dont miss out on the Mr Red expose at the bottom of pg 239 Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 22:56 Plexa wrote:Okay, it just keeps on coming... Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot. Enigma ran his hand through his hair... Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he... Empyrean noted the features of the man.. Hello spoinka Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 23:38 Plexa wrote:Howso? It's actually quite a strong clue, as it also looks as if spoinka is charging at someone - another trait of enigma's + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. Read through that and tell me that that image does not correlate to Enigma? remember clues come from one section of a profile only therefore any picture links may seem dubious but are actually valid There is also some additional information that i can't reveal as well | ||
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118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:10 Plexa wrote:There is no consistency in enigma's profile except his appearance. Feel free to find any other recurring theme within him and go from there but trust me, the ugliness and his appearance is his defining trait. His epic speech? happened once... writing down notes? happened once... his friends? happened once... holding someone to the ground? links to the charging side of things my friend and is a recurring theme of enigma's Feel free to show me where i have gone wrong, but everything is coming up spoinka for me. Just because its a simple image don't let the seeming 'lack of evidence' fool you from seeing a mafia.. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:22 Plexa wrote:Okay, my associate stumbled upon the following find for mr blonde + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. There are soo many references to Mr Blonde being agile and appearing from no where, yet at the same time a rather strong figure... See the highlighted passages for evidential proof Obviously, there is only one thing that is both nimble and powerful and that is a Ninja, thus i present to you Ninja4eva. as Mr Blonde Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:31 Plexa wrote:qrs who do you feel is the stronger suspect then? Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:50 Plexa wrote:Here's my take on the military references; There are a lot of people with military references ie GeneralStan, CDRDude (CDR=commander) and so on but i feel that these connections, without that of a substantial clue, cannot point to either of those players. Hence, until there is something more concrete i dont think we can safely act on any of the clues, especially since we have a lot of targets at the moment I'd also like to add that the evidence against jtan is as strong as any mafia we've caught before and it coincides with my clues from one section conjecture hence he is highly likely to be mafia in my opinion Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:59 Plexa wrote:Bob was updating it... but he's gone MIA Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:36 Plexa wrote:My associate is on a rolllllll + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote well done mr associate Also: 1 mafia out of: ulszz araav rts)night[mare infundibilum ahrara qrs nemy which fufills that list ALSO if that holds, 10 of the following are mafia clazziquai ZBiR BWdero GeneralStan Scorch suresh0t Lysithea Ninja4ever. Naib SoleSteeler L Jimtudor zeks Unforgiven_ve SoMuchBetter ieatkids5 Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 20:11 Plexa wrote:Here's a small summary of what we've uncovered thus far; Confirmed EvilMonkey = Mr Red Mandalor = Snake Charmer Queasy = SideWinder BlindAlbino = Black Mamba d.arkive = Taipan Snake Suspected L # or spoinka = Enigma Dr.Dragoon = Mr Brown craziepenguin = King Brown Snake DamageControl = Mr Black Ninja4eva. # = Mr Blonde jtan = Eddie ulszz = Mr Blue 0cz3c = Copperhead ieatkids5 # = Mr White suresh0t # or Ziel = The Wolf SoMuchBetter # = Californian Mountain Snake Clazziquai # = Mr Orange ZBiR # = Cottonmouth # denotes mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 21:29 Plexa wrote:The mystery of Californian Mountain Snake has finally been revealed + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand (think Crocodile Dundee) and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in {his chest, his gut} (pair one), {his arms} (pair two) {and legs} {pair three) and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Notice how the weapon pierces in pairs (and that its done "pretty soon")? well after careful thought the object thrown by Californian Mountain Snake is indeed a boomerang - a commonly thrown australian weapon. Indeed it can be seen that Cali is the quintessential Australian man especially if you consider the hat being the stereotypical hat of the australians (the corked hat) to complement the stereotypical australian weapon - he is a total stereotype if you will Thus, "AussieScum" or SoMuchBetter is indeed Californian Mountain Snake muhahaha Note SMB is on the mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 22:07 Plexa wrote:although i know MTF doesn't agree with this analysis, and my associate is skeptical .. however given that Cottonmouth must be on the mandalor list i arrive at this conclusion for cottonmouth... + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 22:40 Plexa wrote:Mafia must hate me + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following; 1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right 2) on the mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 18 2008 23:42 Plexa wrote:We have no vigil shots left BC and the guy who killed BlindAlbino had one shot each - and then BC died and we used the one shot on alby that being said, today we lynch penguin, tomorrow L and ulszz Fair enough.. We've filled our quota for non-mandalor list names so im focusing on a reduced list.. some idiot [ala me] attained an incorrect list missing names.. i will look over it and see if there is a better candidate than ZBiR Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 00:12 Plexa wrote:Here is my list of mafia associations. 20/20. could be wrong and the reasoning may be missing for a lot of them but this is here for a record in case i die.. rest assured there are reasons for everything > - one suspect is greater than the other DEAD ------------------------- Mr Red: EvilMonkey Snake Charmer: Mandalor Taipan Snake: d.arkive Sidewinder: Queasy Black Mamba: Blind Albino ------------------------- SUSPECTS ------------------------- Mr Brown: Dr.Dragoon Mr Blue: Ulszz > Scorch Mr Pink: Scorch > Lysithea Mr Orange: Clazziquai Mr Black: DamageControl Enigma: L > spoinka Eddie: jtan The Wolf: suresh0t = ziel Mr Blonde: Ninja4ever Copperhead: 0zc3z Californian Mountain Snake: SoMuchBetter Mr White: ieatkids5 CottonMouth: ZBiR > str Joe: Artanis LYNCHING ORDER ------------------------- 1) craziepenguin 2) L + Ulszz (double lynch) 3) 0zx3c 4) Clazziquai 5) Ninja4ever 6) SoMuchBetter 7) DamageControl 8) ieatkids5 9) jtan 10) Dr.Dragoon 11) Suresh0t 12) Scorch 13) ZBiR 14) Artanis Note that this list is subject to change pending later clues and that when a double lynch occurs you take the top two Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 00:32 Plexa wrote:Also, note that 0cz3c BlindAlbino clazziquai Queasy All changed their votes to randombum right in between the penultimate and final vote counts oddly enough all four are suspects/mafia hence 0cz3c and Clazziquai have EXTRA reason to be mafia on top of their clues Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:12 Plexa wrote:Let me first of start by saying you are very low on the lynch list because Mr Pink is proving to be a difficult character for me and my associate to understand. My associate is analysing him very strongly tonight (along with joe). Basically, i am rather convinced that Mr Pink is some kind of super human... now Lysithea's profile picture has an interesting copyright - "HYBRID WORKS" - which could allude to Mr Pinks superhuman traits, the alternative is some kind of super hero, Supah can't be it because of a number of reasons, however, Scorch is a Super Villainesse (antagonist of superman) and hence, somewhat fits the criteria. Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:35 Plexa wrote:if you could find a supervillain it would be much appreciated and at that rate how do you feel about lysithea's clue Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:34 Plexa wrote:My associate is really coming around as a premiere detective and i am 100% sold on this interpretation of joe + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things(Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit(Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home(End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged(as in a car gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.(Fuel?) Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Maybe another connection He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed (someone driving down the road) obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and (Joe got out of the car.) "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. Whos got strong car references? i dont know - maybe you do Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:10 Plexa wrote:well done mtf! @Useless; yes it does Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 16:47 Plexa wrote:This is the current debate - who is guilty? nemY or ulszz? + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things(Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit(Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home(End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged(as in a car gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there.(Fuel?) Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Maybe another connection He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed (someone driving down the road) obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and (Joe got out of the car.) "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. "Driving round and round (car connection) until its dawn To look for you in rooms we used to go I held you back, (joe always does this) I had to set you free But now I know what’s meant to be" This links to joe very strongly (its intuitive but if youre really not sold leave a comment) and the quoted section comes from the song in nemY's profile OR + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote Now im pretty certain one of them is mafia - but which one? Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 16:51 Plexa wrote:Update on Mr Brown (live life lively thnx to associate) + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Note that every time Mr Brown chases someone, theres the indecipherable yelling. Note too that he speaks rather well, and he is quite an able fighter - not killing with guns but with his hands. This all seems rather contradictory HOWEVER; The yelling is indecipherable BECAUSE ITS A HORSE In addition to that, he is a soldier which fits everything else about him. The match is SO perfect its rediculous. Also, note that even though dragoons use a particular weapon to kill people - beatings by physical means are not out of the question because they are soldiers after all and the fact that Mr Pink persuaded Mr Brown against using his weapon the first time UPDATE: the blue highlighted passage ties into the Dr theme really really well "coat" ie lab coat hahaha DrDragoon this game you really were mafia + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following; 1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right 2) on the mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:25 Plexa wrote:Firstly you were accused of being CottonMouth - and i don't blame people, its a logical connection... but just not a ninja... Mr Blonde however fits every possible description of a ninja! No other character could brace himself on a roof and swoop down on his prey? Also Mr Blonde is strong yet fast which is the perfect ninja. I agree with a lot of the analysis put forward here, except for one thing - the level up part that just sounds.. stupid haha But, i'd like to point you towards the most recent outing of Mr Pink The highlighted sections don't seem to mesh that well with nightmare's quote. Most notably the theme of speed (also note how Mr Pink didn't actually beat him?) The first highlight is either a reference to Mr Pink being some kind of animal, or Mr Brown being some kind of savage human being... i cant find anyone fitting that role of Mr Brown (hence Dr.D as a suspect) but perhaps you can find something on mr pink? it certainly would make ALL of his clues make sense. My associate in particular has been stressing this to me for awhile (i on the other hand think he is a superhuman..) With that in mind, nemY's clue, after careful revision, is too much of a stretch. In chuiu's case, the simpler clue is often the correct clue. Extrapolating the lyrics from a few lines of a song in a profile is just not his style. As much as i'd like to see nemY killed for being joe - i think he'll just end up being green. With nightmare's role as Mr Pink under scrutiny, and nemY's clue too much of a strech - im rather confident in ulszz being Mr Blue Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:52 Plexa wrote:Update for Mr Blue !! + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote UPDATE: Game focus... what is the game focus of the mafia? Credits: Associate The fact that he hasn't killed anyone with a chainsaw yet, and the fact that he really wanted to, also emphasises the fact that he is new on the job Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 21:35 Plexa wrote:Just be glad ulszz has his ass pinned to mr blue Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 21:44 Plexa wrote:This is a rather decent interpretation for Mr Pink and coincides with a alot of information + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight (he's a good fighter, as is yogurt) Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. (he's gotten stronger) Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. (he's been drained) Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. (why would they do this?) Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. (mr pink hunts people for his energy) He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could (he's losing energy) but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. (he's getting faster) Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. Mr pink drains people of their energy as correctly noted by scorch ... this leaves one person from the mandalor list in my mind.... he is a Soul Stealer or as a homonym, SoleSteeler muhahaha SoleSteeler is Mr Pink Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 19 2008 22:26 Plexa wrote:So, my associate has cracked Mr Joe after 72+hours of searching (leading to a massive face palm once we realised it) + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things (Engine?) however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit (Pit stop?). A few paces and he thought he was home (End of the race?) free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged (reference to a gauge) the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. (Fuel?) Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip (To the steering wheel, or clutch?) as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. There is your motor connection... and the candidate? ETI307 - Chuiu certainly love making you mafia That makes 10 mandalor suspects accounted for, 10 non-mandalor Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 19 2008 22:35 Plexa wrote:Just need to find a more solid suspect for cottonmouth than ZBiR =] GO LOOK TOWN Posted in night7/main_page.247 Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 18:45 Plexa wrote:i strongly suggest lynching L and ulszz L will reduce the mafia kills while ulszz, if red, confirms the majority of my suspects After that we can be free to lynch stronger suspect - i'd just like to point out that 0cz3c and clazziquai are the strongest suspects for mafia at this point because of the clue link and the mafia frenzy at the end of randombum's mayoral campaign Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 01:15 Plexa wrote:The best bet is to lynch L + someone from the showtime list; 8-CDRdude 19-ulszz 27-nemY(2) 34-RtS)Night[Mare(2) 48-qrs(2) 51-araav(2) 52-iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) 85-ahrara_(2) Seeing as ulszz is the strongest candidate i feel that he should be lynched, However if anyone wants to point me to a strongest suspect be my guest (keeping in mind that i think that ulszz > nightmare) Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:17 Plexa wrote:Here's my counter analysis Day 1 I dont think there is any point arguing the Day 1 clue pointed toward Mr Pink - that sentence is rather short and too subject to variation and can be read in a number of different lights so that it applies to a number of people. Hence can be argued supporting my arguement, and solesteelers. Day 2 With that being said lets move onto Day 2, where we start to see some interesting clues about Mr Pink. A couple notes about this passage; could refer back to the first day post, but it can also refer to the fact death is something that is normal to Mr Pink - because he needs it to survive (my argument) this could very well refer to the sickie substance on the floor or perhaps it is sidewinder throwing up on the floor - i've seen it argued both ways A mirror of what OneBlueAugust had just done to sidewinder Yogurt is quite an able fighter - an aspect which is later mirrored in Mr Pink Obviously Mr Pink has attain this quality from Yogurt as before he just dealt a single punch - without following it up with blow after blow - but here is the kicker; OneBlueAugust is tapped of his own life energy - Mr Pink stole it Day 3 Mr Pink was active again the next night, but with substantially less clues While this day is 90% Mr Brown acting, there are a couple key lines for Mr Pink Very inetering to note is that on day 1 mr pink spoke, day 2 mr pink said something - but it wasn't explicitly said and today he whispers to Mr Brown This is a rather peculiar aspect about mr Pink, the question is why would you attack someone begging for mercy in such a manner to let them die in a slow painful death. The key part here imo Once again Mr Pink has tapped his life forces and caused him to lose consciousness Day 6 Mr pink took two days off, then came back with avengence last night. The first thing which struck me in this clue was Which instantly makes me think that Mr Pink is either some kind of animal, or he feasts on humans. This is also the first time that Mr Pink has been introduced before the victim. This is followed up immediately by stalking being defined as Which tie nicely in with the idea that Mr Pink is hunting for food This is the pivotal clue in this day - the fact that BC is dying before he is even struck. Much like the other victims of Mr Pink their life force is leaving them before they die. Mr pink suddenly has acquired the trait of being fast - probably from leeching BC Conclusion Here are the options;<ul><li>Mr Pink is some sort of animal <li>Mr Pink is some kind of superhuman <li>Or, that he is leeching the life force of his victims (most likely)</ul> No suspects come up under the first two headings, however SoleSteeler comes up under the third and ties in nicely with all the evidence/lists that we have at our disposal. While our links for Mr Pink are weaker than a number of other suspects, by the time it comes to SoleSteeler being lynched we should have a lot more evidence all ready to examine and judge whether this analysis holds. Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:22 Plexa wrote:Naruto is innocent for a fact (its quite obvious) you're mafia lol Oh yea, wtf at ninja's not being strong? They are fucking strong -.-; they spend 7 years mastering the ability to crush a skull with one hand haha if that ain't strong tell me what is Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:37 Plexa wrote:I really doubt nightmare is Mr Pink <ul><li>Nightmare has nothing to do with Mr Pink at all <li>There is the supervillain Nightmare - but none of his powers/abilities match up with Mr Pink check if you want <li>Profile readsYou could make a case for this i suppose, although there are some serious missing links <li>His profile pic when the game started was a southpark mexican - which doesn't correspond to mr pink at all</ul> Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:40 Plexa wrote:The 18 disciplines of ninjitsu are; 1. Seishin-teki kyōyō (spiritual refinement) 2. Taijutsu (unarmed combat, using one's body as the only weapon) 3. Kenjutsu (sword fighting) 4. Bōjutsu (stick and staff fighting) 5. Shurikenjutsu (throwing shuriken) 6. Sōjutsu (spear fighting) 7. Naginatajutsu (naginata fighting) 8. Kusarigamajutsu (kusarigama fighting) 9. Kayakujutsu (pyrotechnics and explosives) 10. Hensōjutsu (disguise and impersonation) 11. Shinobi-iri (stealth and entering methods) 12. Bajutsu (horsemanship) 13. Sui-ren (water training) 14. Bōryaku (military strategy) 15. Chōhō (espionage) 16. Intonjutsu (escaping and concealment) 17. Tenmon (meteorology) 18. Chi-mon (geography) What have we seen come up? 2, 11, 16 lets see how many more pop up? although there won't be many more because you'll be lynched soon Posted in night7/main_page.249 On April 21 2008 21:47 Plexa wrote:Bottom line is, if you're in the firing line the only way to get out is to argue it based on the clue analysis like solesteeler he's been bumped down the list because of that (atleast in my eyes) which has got him some more time to get clues that being said we need to lynch L and ulszz tomorrow Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 21 2008 22:46 Plexa wrote:With that in mind, its not unreasonable to suspect nemY for the mirror being in his profile, but nemY can only be guilty is ulszz is innocent Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 21 2008 23:37 Plexa wrote:i thought i should chuck this out there for debate STR is a three-letter abbreviation that may refer to: * Short tandem repeat, in DNA testing * Special Theory of Relativity, Einstein's theory * Scientific-technological revolution, a term used by Soviet futurists to indicate change in society * Strength * String (computer science), in computing * United States Trade Representative, formerly known as a Special Trade Representative * Stuttgart Airport, Germany * Scuderia Toro Rosso, a Formula 1 racing team * Suspicious Transaction Report, see: Currency Transaction Report * Séminaire Saint-Joseph de Trois-Rivières, a school in Quebec * Suspend to RAM, in computing * Sociedade da Terra Redonda, a Brazilian atheist and skeptic organization Tudor * Avro Tudor, a type of airplane * Tudor bonnet, a style of cap * Tudor City, an apartment complex located in New York City, New York, United States * Tudor rose, a traditional heraldic emblem of England, first introduced by Henry VII * Tudor Rose (film) is a 1936 film * Tudor, a Romanian film about Tudor Vladimirescu. * The Tudors, a 2007 TV series * Tudor, a line of cars from the Ford Motor Company * Tudor is a brand of watches manufactured by Rolex * Tudor's Toughs, a paramilitary group during the Irish War of Independence (see Black and Tans) * Tudor Rose is a track by the drum and bass artist Dillinja and worst of all... Ace Transportation * Ace (1913 automobile), a British car built between 1912 and 1916 * Ace (1920 automobile), an American-assembled car made in Michigan * ACES (New Jersey Transit), a future rail line in the northeastern United States * Ace Baby Ace, the world's first aircraft to be marketed as a homebuilt aircraft * Ace Junior Ace, a two-seat sports aircraft sold in kit and plans form * AC Ace, a sports car from AC Cars * Advanced Compatibility Engineering, a Honda Motor Company auto body design marketing name * Advanced Composition Explorer, a NASA satellite launched in 1997 * Altamont Commuter Express, a commuter train service in the San Francisco Bay Area connecting Stockton with San Jose * Atlantic City Expressway, a toll road between Pennsylvania and New Jersey * Atlantic Coast Express, an express passenger train in England * Atlantic Council of Engineering Students * Arrecife Airport in Spain, from its IATA airport code * Cougar Ace, a RoRo car ferry developed a sever list in 2006 reulting in 4700 care being destroyed * HMS Ace (P414), an Amphion-class submarine of the Royal Navy * ACE, IATA code for Lanzarote Airport * M9 Armored Combat Earthmover, an armored tracked vehicle that provides combat engineer support to front-line forces * Tata Ace, a small four wheeled truck made by the Indian company Tata Looks like our case against ETI is not as strong as we thought Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 12:38 Plexa wrote:L i am with Amber on this one by a long shot. Not once have you brought up a single clue relating to him in any of your posts. He has every right to challenge you to bring up some evidence against him before he has to defend himself. After all, how can he defend himself against no threat at all? Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 14:09 Plexa wrote:Obviously the best move for the mafia would be a hitlist like this; 1) Plexa 2) Plexa 3) Plexa 4) Plexa 5) Plexa 6) MTF 7) MTF Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 14:09 Plexa wrote:go make yourself useful and send a list to chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 15:40 Plexa wrote:i'll come right out and say it - L and L alone should be protecting me tonight Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:01 Plexa wrote:I received no pms oh wtf these clues make no sense at all... Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 20:52 Plexa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work. - Initially he got lucky shots in - Later posts reveal skill in what he does + Show Spoiler + "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. - Joe is supportive of his team mates -- You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not -- "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. -- Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. - Very strong and agile (able to evade) - Multiple instances of people charging and Mr Blonde shooting them before they can react - Note while ninja's are a likely suspect, the clue above is worth investigating + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull. - Its not the numbers... 15 weapons each day - Each day is a different set of weapons -> someone with a name connection to set + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. - Slashing and associated with the sword + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. Mr. White was last up that night. He encountered JoxxOr going out for a very early morning jog. He tripped JoxxOr using a wire he hid along the sidewalk and then used it as a choking device. JoxxOr struggled to get free as Mr. White pulled the wire tighter against his throat and suffocated him. It was a cruel death for JoxxOr. - Favors attacking the head - Last entry is a common theme + Show Spoiler + The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. - Seems to have a two part clue -- Very accurate -- Somewhat remorseful/respectful + Show Spoiler + As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. - Indecipherable - Find the player linking to that and we have a winner + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. - Extremely physical - Perhaps connected with stopping things in their tracks + Show Spoiler + Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!" The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. - "Ugly look" seems rather pivotal - Charging + Show Spoiler + "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. - Sadistic but a skilled fighter at the same time - Seems to be fast as well + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating. - I think the connection to him being a noob is still pretty strong - Note how the moment he touches the umbrella he breaks it (same with the chainsaw) -> connection to breaking stuff? - Also note how he cannot kill with a decisive blow, instead wounds his opponent (chainsaw vs arm, umbrella vs chest) + Show Spoiler + Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards. - Choice clue is quite strong at this point - Seems to be inconsistent in both days + Show Spoiler + the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. - "Weapon of choice" potentially a sharp hat - Repetition of "sliced clean" emphasis on the sharpness of the weapon (- Ninja4eva?) + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death. - Recurring theme of screaming in pain/screaming for help - Hasn't talked yet - "Strange Sound" - its not english | ||
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118. Plexa Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 21:12 Plexa wrote:Just like to take the time to point out the following... + Show Spoiler + Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. (he's terrible at this stuff) Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating. Whats the connection? When you're a novice you need support from your friends to keep going, encouragement when you do things right and help when you fucked things up. At the end of the day, the mafia are supporting Mr Blue because he is a "noob" and that brings me to the suspect ulszz due to his quote *UPDATE i still think this points to him... he can't use weapons (second time he's broken a weapon) and he can't kill either (shredded an arm, severely wounded fusionsdf) he's got to be a noob... + Show Spoiler + But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. (seems rather out of place given the calmness of the other two mafia in the room - he doesn't understand his comrades) Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged (he doesn't understand him) and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows (A very loud utterance (like the sound of an animal) which further emphasises the fact he doesn't understand him) and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death. So yea, Mr Orange doesn't understand shit why? because he doesn't understand english (its no coincidence he hasn't spoken yet) i leave you with the suspect clazziquai as Mr Orange because of the following; 1) "me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^" thats mr orange all right 2) on the mandalor list *Update* notice how even when he gets stabbed with pain he doesn't yell out.. the silence clue is condemning.. also clazz joined the mafia train at the end of the mayor votes + Show Spoiler + He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. Okay, it just keeps on coming... Its rather common knowledge now that Enigma is associated with his looks and whatnot. Enigma ran his hand through his hair... Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he... Empyrean noted the features of the man.. Hello spoinka **Update** perhaps consider him for the role of mr blonde if ninja is green? i can see a connection in the charging... + Show Spoiler + Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull. **Update** Once again a collection remains - my suspicion grows esp since the numbers have fallen through RE: Mr White I think you could take laziness as a clue here.. especially since he entered last.. leave him for awhile Todays Lynching L and ulszz unless anyone has any objections (L we don't care about yours) Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 21:13 Plexa wrote:easier to organize a post in edit mode rather than quickreply Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 10:52 Plexa wrote:While the lurker spines feel like a good find i still feel that jtan is better connected to Eddie than Mr Blue... the connection is Eddies continual 'fire' then 'retreat' which is a theme amongst all his clues (except for the most recent as he doesn't actually kill anyone). If uslzz does indeed turn up green, then perhaps this is a path we should be looking towards. As the clues have progressed, my suspicion about lostyourskills has declined and i think that candidates for eddie are running rather dry. i thought about this on the bus home but i cam to the conclusion that killing two mafia today is so pivotal to win this game (esp when the mafia kill count is reduced to 6) that we really need to be axing as many confirmed mafia as fast as we can. ulszz has a high chance of being mafia, and we've got clazz/0zc3c lined up for the next couple lynches Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 18:33 Plexa wrote:I agree amber, however finding the saboteur is probably bloody difficult as it is probably a randomly assigned role to the mafia - much like the suicide bomber was. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 21:42 Plexa wrote:Anyone suggesting amber light at this stage really has no clue whats going on.. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 24 2008 23:45 Plexa wrote:its because they keep killing off the active townies!! why not target some of the inactive ones like rpf (lolz) Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 20:44 Plexa wrote:i feel the fanatacist connection is fairly decent, worth noting as our primary suspect for Joe at this stage atleast Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 21:51 Plexa wrote:i think i found something potentially game breaking o.O but we'll see how it goes... but it does say that the following are innocent; Pangolin Naib BWdero SoleSteeler Last Romantic Ahrara 0cz7c which has two suspects i was sure were mafia =/ Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:32 Plexa wrote:Well, one of these people are mafia: CDRdude Additional information: Name could mean "commander" dude, CD-R (rewritable CD) dude, or a number of other tech relating applications.. What mafia could he be? possibly Eddie or Californaian Mountain snake - Commander (navy rank) links to Eddie decently while the "weapon of choice" for cali could be a CD-R... The quote could link to any of the following themes; - Unburrowing/emerging/hiding - becoming a legend For this i suppose you could argue Mr Blonde's tendancy to appear (via unburrowing) which could actually be a viable clue seeing as the ninja thing isn't working out. nemY additional information picture Name has about zero links, you could stretch it something terrible and make the connection to enemY but cmon, thats just rediculous.. His picture could have a few things linking to it but none of these are really viable The quote, however, could have have relevance. the title is "Stone" but other than that there is no real evidence pointing towards any mafia trait what so ever... nemY is likely to be innocent imo RtS)Night]Mare i dont buy any of the connections of "nightmare" to any of the mafia... if there were connections you'd have victims of this mafia waking up, dying in their sleep, or being tortured in a seemingly real but unreal environment - ie some kind of fantasy world. I don't see that happening with any of the victims (especially since they all get paired up with another mafia) and thus these connections are flimsy... at best you can connect to mr pink but thats terrible... his picture has changed, used to be a mexican southpark character - which doesn't link to anyone imo this actually could point to alot of stuff... read up on ahk-gosu here (lots of lol) that coupled with the rather interesting quote could be connected (thematically) to say enigma or others... if enigma doesn't show up tonight then this suspicion tends to zero. qrs name is nothing more than sequential letters, so not clue material which leaves; This Whitehead character is some mathematician/philosopher from circa 1900 iirc and this quote would lead us to expect a mafia who was smart, looked at normal problems and approached from a different path or even someone who never took a non-calculated risk. Mafia suspects here could possibly be The Wolf or Mr Pink - where i think the wolf is marginally stronger. also note that qrs has been resistant to Ace/Town since Day 0 and generally annoying to everyone involved. Although he did set MTF straight when MTF couldn't add araav well araav was pinned in that chatroom fiasco and was deemed innocent after that incident. his name means nothing, which means the clues should really be coming from other places like. can we tie any of the mafia to a zealot? i don't think thats possible except for perhaps californian mountain snake - but thats a stretch considering the first round of clues directed towards him is a quote said by the Chinese Emperor in Mulan - possibly connected to Eddie? highly doubtful... infundibulum an infindibulum is a specific shape associated with organs, similar to that of say a stomach or kidney. Nothing along these lines have come up in the clues hence i dont think our dear friend here is going to be mafia based on this... we have which could tie nicely into californian mountainsnake, and indeed i think this is one of a best links to him (the other being SMB) and hence quite possibly a mafia.. is kind of a bland/boring quote and has no real connection to any of the mafia clues same goes for... which has 0 relevance at all. Ahrara_ i have no idea what Ahrara is, not even wiki does.. you could go Ah-Ra-Ra, but i have no idea how that links to anything.. his picture might link to something, but theres no theme of being on the ground or anything of that nature... wtf does this mean? i have no idea... someone tell me.. it might actually link to someone... Thus; CDRdude - 15% confidence nemY - 1% confidence Nightmare - 25% confidence qrs - 5% confidence araav - 10% confidence infundibulum - 40% confidence ahrara - 4% Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:48 Plexa wrote:for someone who doesn't turn up to debate tournaments you're one to talk haha anyway, check out the voting thread for mayor... Empyrean was essentially in as pardoner (and safe as a detective). I think mafia wanted to stop someone with an important role like empy from getting in and have 6 BG protection.. thus 4 of them (queasy + albino and the suspects clazziquai/0zc7c) bumped Randombum over the top right at the end (some switching from empy to him) and hence i don't think he's mafia (but those last 4 are) Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 17:56 Plexa wrote:his hat links very nicely to californian mountainsnake Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 18:06 Plexa wrote:simple- easy target... randombum could be easily role checked by the detectives and they would lose an easy mafia. remember that no mafia ran for mayor last game firstly, note that when cali was introduce he took off his hat as he bowed (note the hate) secondly look at the makeup of the hat - perfect for goring/slicing thirdly notice that he threw something at dimsab (the spinning blind off the hat perhaps?) fourthly "weapon of choice" ties into the had as does the slashing i do think SMB is a stronger candidate, but this is too much to look over in such a small group Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:06 Plexa wrote:exactly that hence why your low on the suspicion list Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:02 Plexa wrote:i vote fusionsdf Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 19:28 Plexa wrote: Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 19:34 Plexa wrote:I withdraw my vote Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 08:05 Plexa wrote:i vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 15:37 Plexa wrote:i vote for bumatlarge with my first vote i vote for queasy for my second vote Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 17:57 Plexa wrote:I vote for d.arkive Thanks Alethios hope you enjoyed the show Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:18 Plexa wrote:I change my vote from d.arkive to SoMuchBetter Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 13:52 Plexa wrote:First vote: evilmonkey Second vote: seifu Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:53 Plexa wrote:changed vote two to siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 10:39 Plexa wrote:i vote DrDragoon because L is dead anyway Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 12:51 Plexa wrote:I change my vote from DrDragoon to Crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 21:35 Plexa wrote:i vote L and ulszz Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 13:52 Plexa wrote:will you still think that if they turn green !? + Show Spoiler [SonuvBob] + 42. SonuvBob Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:37 SonuvBob wrote:Sooo many people, matching clues to people will be a bitch. Should have a post or time-as-member requirement, or at least require a sig and/or profile so we don't end up with a bunch of KF91 "robots" with no discernible clues. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 14:27 SonuvBob wrote:Looks like 53. Folca won't be joining us. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:46 SonuvBob wrote:I'll vote for anyone who lynches randombum. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:33 SonuvBob wrote:Chuiu's not currently logged in. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:52 SonuvBob wrote:I'll vote for anyone who posts all 130 sigs and profiles. Randombum, here's your chance to use your power of Too Much Free Time! Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:56 SonuvBob wrote:The OP didn't win the game for the town last time, we need a quick reference. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:02 SonuvBob wrote:Who are our candidates so far? Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:09 SonuvBob wrote:Ah what the hell, I'm announcing my candidacy for mayor. My platform: Being less of a douche than Steve was. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:16 SonuvBob wrote: That was a stock PM though, everyone got the same one. This reply was lovingly hand-crafted in my own home by Malaysian sweatshop workers. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:18 SonuvBob wrote:Er.. I mean by me. Not kidnapped children. I am not a douche. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:36 SonuvBob wrote: Ok, I voted for araav, as promised. You should still vote for me though. In addition to not being a douche, I can read edits. How cool is that?! Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 17:03 SonuvBob wrote: I'm an admin, like Steve. Except I'll be less of a douche! That's the SonuvBob Promise™! 1. I'll be less of a douche than FakeSteve was! 2. I can read edits! 3. I can use HTML. Let's see those mafia scum fight that! 4. Four! Vote for me! http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68177 Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:08 SonuvBob wrote: The homeless approve. I can't lose! Don't forget to vote here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68177 Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:18 SonuvBob wrote: 5. I can view post histories. 6. I have the power to turn Day into Night. Well.. in the thread title. See where it says "Day 1"? I did that. Let's you see try. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:35 SonuvBob wrote: All good leaders know how to delegate. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:02 SonuvBob wrote: LTT was my mafia discussion buddy last game. Bitter about your ban? That was my idea. Vote for me, I have ideas! Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 04:44 SonuvBob wrote: You're putting me in an impossible position, mister. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:58 SonuvBob wrote:Can we get a current vote tally? Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:49 SonuvBob wrote:Ok, first off I'd like to withdraw from the mayoral race, so I can resume being a douche. Now then, I think we should think about the mafia's possible voting strategies. I think bandwagoning for one candidate would be considered too risky. The last game proved the power of laying low. Since voting is required, this game I would expect them to spread their votes, somewhat favoring the least qualified candidates. Being the least qualified candidate, I'd like to bring attention to my voters: LTT MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Of these, only bumatlarge gave a reason for voting for me: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 16:05 bumatlarge wrote: I think the first posters after the Day are townies. They have to be. If you were chosen as mafia, what would you do? I would PM all my sick pals. I wouldn't post non-sequitor rants. So everyone before me is a townie. ^_^ LTT was my fellow observer for the last game, we exchanged theories about which of Shallow/Dr.Dragoon was a complete idiot. Only natural that he'd vote for me. (At least until it was clearly hopeless, at which point he changed votes). The other three, however, didn't even post between the start of the game and their votes for me. Either they're lazy, or they're mafia. I'd suggest keeping an eye on them. MoRe_mInErAls, wurm, Chezinu: Please explain your reasons for voting for me. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:59 SonuvBob wrote:That's true, but for other candidates it could've been based on what they said. I had literally nothing to offer. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:20 SonuvBob wrote:Confusion benefits the mafia far more than the town. Don't vote for Empy; even if he's telling the truth he's bad for the town. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:34 SonuvBob wrote:Poor Inc. Shoulda listened to P.Diddy. Vote or die. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 11:18 SonuvBob wrote:If Ace isn't roleblocked, it'll show up when he votes tomorrow (6 votes vs 1). It'd be a bad idea to lie about that. Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 04:00 SonuvBob wrote: Don't worry about it in this thread, as long as all posts are relevant to the game, and it's obvious you put thought into them. (I'm not going to moderate this thread anyway, since I'm in the game) Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:34 SonuvBob wrote:Ok, something ain't right. 2 mad hatters and a jack dead already. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:38 SonuvBob wrote:On the plus side, only 6/9 kills. But still.. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:39 SonuvBob wrote: Don't forget the 4 vigilantes. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:53 SonuvBob wrote:They may have hit some veterans too. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:03 SonuvBob wrote:Here's araav's list again, prettied up slightly (fixed html escape codes), with the dead removed: + Show Spoiler + 01-ShaLLoW[baY] Display Name : ShaLLoW[baY] Birthday : March 08, 1991 Country : Canada Joined : Monday, 1st of January 2007 Quote : We are the Swarm, and we are becoming much, much more...for the final metamorphosis has only. Just. Begun. Art.ShaLLoW 02-SoMuchBetter Display Name : SoMuchBetter Birthday : May 27, 1987 Country : Australia Joined : Tuesday, 1st of April 2003 Quote : AUSSIESCUM 03-Eti307 Display Name : Eti307 Birthday : July 31, 1985 Country : Canada Joined : Sunday, 14th of March 2004 Quote : A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new 04-HotZhot Display Name : HotZhot Birthday : Country : Colombia Joined : Friday, 8th of February 2008 Quote : I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever 05-Caller Display Name : Caller Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Monday, 3rd of September 2007 Quote : Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead 06-clazziquai Display Name : clazziquai Birthday : Country : Kiribati Joined : Sunday, 7th of October 2007 Quote : me from kiribati. me no speak english. ^^ 07-Dr.Dragoon Display Name : Dr.Dragoon Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Friday, 30th of November 2007 Quote : I lost the info on my previous account ;( 08-CDRdude Display Name : CDRdude Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 27th of May 2007 Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend. 09-So no fek Display Name : So no fek Birthday : January 26, 1990 Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 12th of June 2005 Quote : 10-Fen Display Name : Fen Birthday : September 11, 1986 Country : Australia Joined : Monday, 19th of June 2006 Quote : 11-ieatkids5 Display Name : ieatkids5 Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 2nd of September 2004 Quote : Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. 12-Wizard Display Name : Wizard Birthday : May 09, 1992 Country : Canada Joined : Saturday, 5th of May 2007 Quote : 마재윤 | 2zerglings1egg 13-dinmsab Display Name : dinmsab Birthday : Country : Malaysia Joined : Saturday, 5th of January 2008 Quote : FBH needs dancing lessons. 14-imDerek Display Name : imDerek Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Wednesday, 15th of August 2007 Quote : keke 15-Hittegods Display Name : Hittegods Birthday : November 25, 1984 Country : Sweden Joined : Thursday, 5th of April 2007 Quote : This street violence, pure self defiance 16-Puosu Display Name : Puosu Birthday : December 04, 1993 Country : Joined : Friday, 6th of April 2007 Quote : 17-randombum Display Name : randombum Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 28th of April 2007 Quote : 19-ulszz Display Name : ulszz Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Monday, 25th of June 2007 Quote : Game focus: Build more drones, i'm a noob, i need reminding. 21-Alethios Display Name : Alethios Birthday : Country : New Zealand Joined : Sunday, 30th of December 2007 Quote : "there's somebody here... they stole your underpants" 22-infinity21 Display Name : infinity21 Birthday : July 14, 1989 Country : Canada Joined : Friday, 20th of October 2006 Quote : "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit" bErAtEd- <3 Panorama 23-Falcynn Display Name : Falcynn Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Friday, 10th of June 2005 Quote : 24-Alventenie Display Name : Alventenie Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 14th of July 2007 Quote : 25-Empyrean Display Name : Empyrean Birthday : October 25, 1985 Country : China Joined : Tuesday, 28th of September 2004 Quote : Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up. 26-Fishball Display Name : Fishball Birthday : November 02, 1984 Country : Canada Joined : Friday, 16th of December 2005 Quote : йќ€й‚дє¤йџїжЁ‚ 27-nemY Display Name : nemY Birthday : February 15, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 23rd of July 2006 Quote : 28-ZBiR Display Name : ZBiR Birthday : November 05, 1986 Country : Poland Joined : Monday, 25th of August 2003 Quote : 29-SiZ.FaNtAsY Display Name : SiZ.FaNtAsY Birthday : Country : Korea (South) Joined : Friday, 26th of January 2007 Quote : Karma is a bitch 30-JeeJee Display Name : JeeJee Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Monday, 28th of July 2003 Quote : "i dont deal with ppl who proxy everything. its like the map is ur base" -ATeddyBear 31-Energies Display Name : Energies Birthday : December 21, 1986 Country : Australia Joined : Friday, 19th of September 2003 Quote : RIP: Mitch Hedberg, 1968 - 2005. 32-wurm Display Name : wurm Birthday : Country : Philippines Joined : Saturday, 20th of October 2007 Quote : I know where my towel is. 33-Amber[LighT] Display Name : Amber[LighT] Birthday : May 26, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 24th of June 2005 Quote : iNControl: "You (idra) have some odd hatred for the only 40+ woman to dabble in bw... common. Be a gent or something like that." Much <3 for Ilvy 34-RtS)Night[Mare Display Name : RtS)Night[Mare Birthday : June 05, 1988 Country : Mexico Joined : Thursday, 23rd of December 2004 Quote : <3 the tl.net community 35-Vharox Display Name : Vharox Birthday : December 28, 1989 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 18th of June 2004 Quote : 36-Unforgiven_ve Display Name : Unforgiven_ve Birthday : August 27, 1982 Country : Venezuela Joined : Tuesday, 24th of August 2004 Quote : 37-fgsvsd Display Name : fgsvsd Birthday : April 18, 1987 Country : Switzerland Joined : Tuesday, 5th of June 2007 Quote : Also known as Nazgath. Starcraft Ascension all the way, baby! 38-KF91 Display Name : KF91 Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Sunday, 4th of March 2007 Quote : That was weird... O.o 39-Romance_us Display Name : Romance_us Birthday : January 17, 1991 Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 25th of March 2006 Quote : Impossible is everything until you overcome it! 40-MasterOfChaos Display Name : MasterOfChaos Birthday : Country : Germany Joined : Sunday, 15th of April 2007 Quote : Thoughts in chaos! 41-LTT Display Name : LTT Birthday : December 31, 1982 Country : Shakuras Joined : Thursday, 6th of March 2003 Quote : "We must be born with an intuition of mortality. Before we know the words for it, out we come, bloodied and squalling with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only one direction, and time is its only measure." 42-SonuvBob Display Name : SonuvBob Birthday : Country : Aiur Joined : Saturday, 21st of October 2006 Quote : o-<--< (if Nazgul posts after me, this man dies) 43-NatsuTerran Display Name : NatsuTerran Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 12th of June 2007 Quote : 44-str Display Name : str Birthday : Country : Bulgaria Joined : Saturday, 21st of July 2007 Quote : no units = no power 45-smurfingchobo Display Name : smurfingchobo Birthday : January 15, 1987 Country : Joined : Monday, 26th of April 2004 Quote : Teach me PvZ~ 46-aZnvaLiaNce Display Name : aZnvaLiaNce Birthday : November 06, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 12th of June 2007 Quote : Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus 47-Kuja900 Display Name : Kuja900 Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 6th of October 2007 Quote : Julyzerg Fighting! Both Starleagues! 48-qrs Display Name : qrs Birthday : Country : Joined : Thursday, 27th of December 2007 Quote : It requires a very unusual mind to undertake the analysis of the obvious. --Alfred North Whitehead 49-GranDim Display Name : GranDim Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Monday, 10th of November 2003 Quote : 50-Artanis[Xp] Display Name : Artanis[Xp] Birthday : September 13, 1989 Country : Netherlands Joined : Saturday, 24th of December 2005 Quote : http://www.last.fm/user/ArtanisXp/ - My last.fm! 51-araav Display Name : araav Birthday : June 19, 1979 Country : Armenia Joined : Wednesday, 29th of September 2004 Quote : The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. 52-iNfuNdiBuLuM Display Name : iNfuNdiBuLuM Birthday : February 11, 1988 Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 11th of May 2003 Quote : Cheese in the grater is greater cheese. 53-Ace Display Name : Ace Birthday : March 06, 1984 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 28th of October 2002 Quote : 54-MTF Display Name : MTF Birthday : June 20, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 25th of January 2005 Quote : The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out. 55-MoRe_mInErAls Display Name : MoRe_mInErAls Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Wednesday, 21st of November 2007 Quote : 56-Camlito Display Name : Camlito Birthday : January 16, 1988 Country : Australia Joined : Tuesday, 24th of July 2007 Quote : 57-LoStYouRSkiLLS Display Name : LoStYouRSkiLLS Birthday : February 11, 1992 Country : Australia Joined : Wednesday, 20th of February 2008 Quote : Skill is when Luck becomes Habit 58-Lysithea Display Name : Lysithea Birthday : March 14, 1986 Country : Sweden Joined : Friday, 22nd of February 2008 Quote : "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee." - Muhammad Ali 59-fanatacist Display Name : fanatacist Birthday : November 02, 1989 Country : Angola Joined : Sunday, 26th of August 2007 Quote : "Korean Hostages" - i.play.ZERG: "Poor Koreans, they haven't SCed in over a month." 60-SoleSteeler Display Name : SoleSteeler Birthday : March 22, 1985 Country : Canada Joined : Monday, 21st of April 2003 Quote : 61-French_Toast Display Name : French_Toast Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Monday, 25th of February 2008 Quote : 62-BlindAlbino Display Name : BlindAlbino Birthday : Country : Ecuador Joined : Wednesday, 19th of December 2007 Quote : 63-HeRoS)Pink Display Name : HeRoS)Pink Birthday : October 28, 1988 Country : Canada Joined : Thursday, 21st of July 2005 Quote : GraveDigger 64-KorvspaD Display Name : KorvspaD Birthday : November 11, 1984 Country : Sweden Joined : Wednesday, 30th of July 2003 Quote : a friend with weed is a friend indeed.. 65-Mandalor Display Name : Mandalor Birthday : Country : Germany Joined : Wednesday, 26th of February 2003 Quote : 66-fusionsdf Display Name : fusionsdf Birthday : September 21, 1987 Country : Canada Joined : Wednesday, 7th of June 2006 Quote : в 1 word: awrsdrsom//Lim Ji HyeгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂгЂЂпјЃ 67-0cz3c Display Name : 0cz3c Birthday : May 19, 1992 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 22nd of February 2008 Quote : A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything -- it can even be a boat! 68-New104 Display Name : New104 Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Monday, 24th of September 2007 Quote : 69-LucasWoJ Display Name : LucasWoJ Birthday : May 19, 1992 Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 19th of May 2007 Quote : renu original 70-Bockit Display Name : Bockit Birthday : December 15, 1987 Country : Australia Joined : Tuesday, 23rd of November 2004 Quote : In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams 71-GeneralStan Display Name : GeneralStan Birthday : September 17, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 19th of August 2007 Quote : Lee Jae Dong, Zerg Messiah. Use every warrior as your last. Pour warriors upon your enemy as though they have no end. Welcome to Zerg. 72-Ziel Display Name : Ziel Birthday : January 21, 1988 Country : Malaysia Joined : Wednesday, 23rd of May 2007 Quote : The cake is a lie! 73-Hollander Display Name : Hollander Birthday : August 26, 1983 Country : Norway Joined : Saturday, 15th of March 2008 Quote : Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein 74-Supah Display Name : Supah Birthday : Country : Norway Joined : Sunday, 24th of June 2007 Quote : 75-bumatlarge Display Name : bumatlarge Birthday : June 09, 1989 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 19th of October 2007 Quote : "Critical thinking is the key to success." - Professor Layton 76-jtan Display Name : jtan Birthday : January 30, 1986 Country : Sweden Joined : Friday, 4th of April 2003 Quote : Enter a Uh 77-BloodyC0bbler Display Name : BloodyC0bbler Birthday : June 02, 1986 Country : Canada Joined : Wednesday, 1st of September 2004 Quote : Sweet Water and Light Laughter 78-BWdero Display Name : BWdero Birthday : October 15, 1989 Country : Netherlands Joined : Friday, 15th of February 2008 Quote : 79-AcrossFiveJulys Display Name : AcrossFiveJulys Birthday : October 09, 1987 Country : Joined : Sunday, 18th of September 2005 Quote : You must be crazier than a fish with tities 80-Siefu Display Name : Siefu Birthday : April 11, 1990 Country : Australia Joined : Friday, 26th of November 2004 Quote : He walks among us, but he is not one of us. 82-Ninja4ever. Display Name : Ninja4ever. Birthday : Country : France Joined : Sunday, 2nd of March 2008 Quote : "Live as if you were to die tomorrow, learn as if you were to live for ever." 83-Chezinu Display Name : Chezinu Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Wednesday, 6th of February 2008 Quote : lol, clueless 84-JoxxOr Display Name : JoxxOr Birthday : December 12, 1991 Country : Sweden Joined : Saturday, 29th of September 2007 Quote : Hanbit stars fan! 85-ahrara_ Display Name : ahrara_ Birthday : Country : Afghanistan Joined : Tuesday, 26th of February 2008 Quote : Running 8 min of T in the LOC. 86-Queasy Display Name : Queasy Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 13th of December 2007 Quote : 87-Pangolin Display Name : Pangolin Birthday : February 07, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 10th of March 2008 Quote : Infestors = Instawin 88-Naib Display Name : Naib Birthday : June 22, 1987 Country : Hungary Joined : Thursday, 4th of November 2004 Quote : In life we are born different, and die equal, in StarCraft we are born equal and die different. 89-butidigress Display Name : butidigress Birthday : June 10, 1990 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 10th of March 2008 Quote : between the click of the light and the start of the dream ... 90-~OpZ~ Display Name : ~OpZ~ Birthday : August 12, 1986 Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 7th of May 2005 Quote : Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex 91-Scorch Display Name : Scorch Birthday : January 24, 1985 Country : Austria Joined : Wednesday, 12th of March 2008 Quote : What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy. 92-Jimtudor Display Name : Jimtudor Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Sunday, 24th of June 2007 Quote : xer and ra ftw! 93-spoinka Display Name : spoinka Birthday : Country : Germany Joined : Wednesday, 30th of January 2008 Quote : Quakeworld to the bone! 94-unsoundlogic Display Name : unsoundlogic Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 21st of September 2006 Quote : 96-TranceStorm Display Name : TranceStorm Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Monday, 7th of May 2007 Quote : 97-suresh0t Display Name : suresh0t Birthday : December 28, 1984 Country : United States Joined : Wednesday, 17th of May 2006 Quote : "Please forgive me for questioning divinity, it's an ugly job but I think I'm up for it" 98-decafchicken Display Name : decafchicken Birthday : October 17, 1990 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 31st of January 2005 Quote : how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy? 99-DamageControL Display Name : DamageControL Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 3rd of July 2007 Quote : 100-omfghi2u2 Display Name : omfghi2u2 Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 10th of February 2008 Quote : 101-RowdierBob Display Name : RowdierBob Birthday : August 11, 1984 Country : Australia Joined : Monday, 19th of May 2003 Quote : Did you know? In February of 2008, RowdierBob forgave Plexa for being a Kiwi. 102-Meta Display Name : Meta Birthday : April 26, 1989 Country : United States Joined : Friday, 6th of June 2003 Quote : any way the wind blows.. 103-SpiritoftheTuna Display Name : SpiritoftheTuna Birthday : December 12, 1990 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 14th of August 2006 Quote : AKA La Pomme Damour 104-AmorVincitOmnia Display Name : AmorVincitOmnia Birthday : July 07, 1986 Country : Kenya Joined : Monday, 7th of March 2005 Quote : brown skin woman you a queen 105-Wysp Display Name : Wysp Birthday : May 15, 1988 Country : Canada Joined : Wednesday, 31st of August 2005 Quote : an overdeveloped sense of self preservation 106-BuGzlToOnl Display Name : BuGzlToOnl Birthday : February 12, 1988 Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 28th of November 2006 Quote : “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” - Jimi Hendrix 107-GrayArea Display Name : GrayArea Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 22nd of December 2007 Quote : 108-xDark.Carnivalx Display Name : xDark.Carnivalx Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 26th of November 2006 Quote : Rat shit bat shit dirty old twat, 69 assholes tie it in a knot. Hurray, lizard shit! FUCK! - George Carlin 109-MidnightGladius Display Name : MidnightGladius Birthday : Country : China Joined : Tuesday, 7th of August 2007 Quote : "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General 110-crazie-penguin Display Name : crazie-penguin Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 8th of June 2006 Quote : 113-DTDominion Display Name : DTDominion Birthday : May 20, 1988 Country : United States Joined : Sunday, 27th of November 2005 Quote : 114-zeks Display Name : zeks Birthday : August 27, 1989 Country : Canada Joined : Saturday, 8th of September 2007 Quote : "With great power comes great responsibility." 115-useLess Display Name : useLess Birthday : July 07, 1986 Country : United States Joined : Saturday, 17th of January 2004 Quote : Favorite book: Organic Chemistry 116-Last Romantic Display Name : Last Romantic Birthday : December 07, 1985 Country : Taiwan Joined : Friday, 16th of June 2006 Quote : Champion of the second-ever StarCraft II 2v2 tournament; paired with semioldguy 117-d.arkive Display Name : d.arkive Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 4th of January 2007 Quote : "Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing 118-Plexa Display Name : Birthday : January 08, 1990 Country : New Zealand Joined : Friday, 21st of October 2005 Quote : ~ PuSan[S.G]/Kwanro[saM] fan ~ bored? read my blog http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/schrei 119-G.s)NarutO Display Name : G.s)NarutO Birthday : Country : Germany Joined : Friday, 15th of December 2006 Quote : Hi-.,- 120-Evilmonkey. Display Name : Evilmonkey. Birthday : February 21, 1991 Country : Japan Joined : Saturday, 22nd of April 2006 Quote : WWBD- What would Boxer do? 122-Showtime! Display Name : Showtime! Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Wednesday, 28th of November 2007 Quote : 123-Klive5ive Display Name : Klive5ive Birthday : January 16, 1988 Country : United Kingdom Joined : Saturday, 19th of January 2008 Quote : Dont hate the player - Hate the game 124-Lenwe Display Name : Lenwe Birthday : August 10, 1984 Country : Netherlands Joined : Tuesday, 4th of March 2008 Quote : What's up? 125-Kau Display Name : Kau Birthday : March 31, 1987 Country : Canada Joined : Saturday, 31st of March 2007 Quote : This method of playing is a result of Up’s UpBring.. bringing… Sea.bring… uhhh… childhood. -FakeSteve 126-Ghar Display Name : Ghar Birthday : Country : Australia Joined : Friday, 14th of March 2008 Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time 127-L Display Name : L Birthday : Country : Canada Joined : Tuesday, 29th of January 2008 Quote : :D 128-KH1031 Display Name : KH1031 Birthday : October 19, 1985 Country : Taiwan Joined : Monday, 14th of April 2003 Quote : 129-ShadowDrgn Display Name : ShadowDrgn Birthday : February 17, 1983 Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 19th of July 2007 Quote : 130-rpf Display Name : rpf Birthday : May 13, 1987 Country : United States Joined : Monday, 29th of January 2007 Quote : "I'm sure God will understand, and if He does not, then He is not God at all." - Balian, Kingdom of Heaven A couple clues that stand out: Look for a sig/profile with (only) a smiley? Maybe someone who uses a lot of smileys in posts? I looked through the whole list for something related to this: I think it could be LoStYouRSkiLLS (he's also an Aussie - like a Taipan Snake). Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:06 SonuvBob wrote:Nice, are there any other clues pointing to either of them? Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:17 SonuvBob wrote:That's pretty damning for unforgiven, but Mr. Pink is in the third paragraph with another clue ("Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia."), so I dunno. Alventenie, can you use quote tags, or italics, or something to make that big post easier to follow? Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:29 SonuvBob wrote: I'm guessing profile picture? Though Queasy is a good match for a name. Only other names that are close are the bums and BlindAlbino, which is quite a stretch. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:10 SonuvBob wrote:We can't double lynch, Ace is roleblocked. =/ Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:02 SonuvBob wrote:Just a note: we need to kill 3 mafia before their killing power is reduced, so they'll still have (up to) 9 kills again tonight even if we lynch one. Getting the saboteur/suicide bomber early on would be pretty sweet though. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:12 SonuvBob wrote:Fear not, gentle town of Liquidia, for once our great Mayor has returned from his social engagement- where he will be getting shitfaced and engaging in grand acts of promiscuity, and possibly beastiality, should it strike his fancy, and after he has passed out in a pool of his own vomit and miscellaneous bodily fluids, and awoken with an aching head and a most unusual rash- then, fair Liquidia, we shall hunt down these brigands and bring them to justice! Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:35 SonuvBob wrote:There'll be plenty of time for vengeance tomorrow. Vengeance and the clap. Have fun, Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 02:29 SonuvBob wrote:Should be about 10 hours left before night. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 04:08 SonuvBob wrote:Nothing has happened. Do what Ace tells you to do. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 05:08 SonuvBob wrote:Also, make wild accusations based solely on your misconceptions about how the game works. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 10:23 SonuvBob wrote:Renamed thread. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:35 SonuvBob wrote:Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread lately, been too busy rigging TL polls. Here's why I voted for randombum though: I'll go back and read some of it now. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 16:35 SonuvBob wrote:As promised, I vote araav. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:23 SonuvBob wrote:Looks like it's around 27/27 for Ace/randombum. Just in case it's needed, I change my vote from araav to Ace. Sorry araav. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 04:53 SonuvBob wrote:I abstain until we hear from Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:41 SonuvBob wrote:I vote Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 16:08 SonuvBob wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:31 SonuvBob wrote: For my second vote, I vote for randombum. + Show Spoiler [aZnvaLiaNce] + 46. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:21 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:holy crap, 100+ people playing. here we go.... Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:55 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:question: can the mad hatter's skill be used on mayor/pardoner? it's not clarified in the OP so i'm asking here. thanks Posted in night7/main_page.002 Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:16 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm also announcing my own candidacy for the position of mayor. My statement to the land: I WILL ACTIVATE DOUBLE LYNCH ASAP No joke. I'm fast paced and I like to get the heart of the town pumping like mad. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 16:34 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Wow, the animosity is starting before the game is even starting.....are we TLnetters that savage? Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 08:53 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Yeah, that's a good point to bring up for last-minute confirmations. Most likely that's how it'll be when Chuiu assigns special roles. On another note, 113 confirmed out of total 168 = 55 MIA Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 09:34 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Game hasn't even started yet and this thread alone has 6000+ views and 250+ replies. Talk about how addictive Mafia is..... Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:49 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:1 Hour 15 Minutes and counting until roles are sent out and day post is posted! Good thing I sent in my confirmation already.....guess I'll just go for a drive, get some Calpico and Shrimp snacks (for finals food), and come back to see things get started. P.S. This is off-topic, but if anyone has a good understanding of linear algebra, can you please answer a couple questions regarding unitary/orthogonal operators? Thanks! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 13:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Oops, my bad. Didn't realize you said suicide bomber. Thought it was Mad Hatter, lol. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:41 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'd like to run for mayor. I may not be well known in the TL community but I really would like to be involved. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:41 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I knew someone was gonna say that. I KNEW IT Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:49 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Your jumping-to-conclusions ala "seems mafia-ish" seems mafia-ish to me........hmmm.....but nothing to fret about, I base my solid, concrete logic rather than whim and stuff that piss people off in the long run. edit: means I was joking about pointing my finger at you. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:58 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Well, in the day post, 1.) We have "codenames" present. Eddie, Taipan Snake.....Mr. Blonde??? Something to ponder upon. Also, having the nicknames "Taipan Snake" and "The Wolf" seems Metal Gear Solid-like...... 2.) "...knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall." Rolling to break fall on ground? I remember doing that a lot in Smash Bros. Guess we're looking for someone with an addiction for Smash? (Gee, that doesn't help since almost everyone on TL is obssessed with SSBB....) Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:09 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: hahahaha, how very original of you. I'll give you props on that, man! | ||
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46. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:33 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: .....wow.....he actually did it..... by the way, please vote in the allocated thread. We townies don't want the wrath of Chuiu to be brought down upon us this early in the game. edit: and rules state self-voting is not allowed, either. Sorry for sounding strict. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:46 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Well, I may have been posting too much ever since the day was posted but whatever.... 1. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. Eight people. Eight cardinal directions. This, I think, equates to being surrounded from all sides. Now, I direct attention to this person's profile quote: Quote : All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time. Well, if they're on the left, right, front, and behind, sounds like a situation where you're surrounded as well. Coincidence? *shrugs* Also, two statements indicating making a decision where in the clue are: 1. either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner 2. either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now! Hope my analysis gives a jump start on discussion pre-mayoral election. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 17:02 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:See, all this business behind what strategy is best for the future mayor is all based on the honor code and who's being honest. Seriously, I think it's best to put the strategy behind us until the first day/night cycle is done just to see how the important roles act/react to events happening, in particular the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:09 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Then what of the possibility where town colludes to send in "fake" detectives to report to the mayor they suspect to be mafia. Then the mafia can be led astray and hit green targets, as opposed to blue ones. Then, again, there's the possibility where the mayor can be towny and having the "fake" detectives report to a true-blue mayor fake results can do more harm than good. Again, it all depends on the honor code and we can't do anything about manipulating it or maneuvering around it until a cycle or two has passed. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:22 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hmm....I see your point there. Two scenarios: Say, with the default 4 detectives, 6 detectives report to the mayor, meaning 2 of them are scum pretending to be detectives. 1.) Mafia mayor: Well, the mayor can discern the two scum from the other 4. On a more practical note, scum acting as detectives wouldn't even report to a mafia mayor since that's stupid. The only thing left for a mafia mayor to do is to believe the 4 remaining non-scum that reported in are actually real detectives and not "fake" ones sent in by townies. 2.) Towny mayor: This is hard. Early on, you can't really trust who's who and the mayor doesn't know who the fake detectives are. Later on, however, if 4 of those 6 report in again when asked, then it becomes somewhat easier to discern people. If more than 4, then ask for a third time. Those who do report in are fakes then. However, you do this at the expense of losing all your detective reports for the game, so do this at your own risk. If this doesn't make sense, please say so. I've been know in RL to complicate matters when I don't have to. Posted in night7/main_page.021 Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Choosing a mayor is almost purely subjective and based on whim and maybe a little on the day post for those who can interpret the clues given. I'm not arguing on how to choose the mayor. I'm arguing on what the mayor should do once he/she is elected. Posted in night7/main_page.021 Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:36 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: and don't forget about my earlier post. That quote I cited is his. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:So far, the one who seems to be willing to help out the most in my eyes is Ace. He's posting good arguments and points for the upcoming game. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and label him as non-scum for now. As for the last two people who posted helping to campaign for araav.......hmmm.....very interesting when araav seems to be campaigning for himself just fine and you two come out of the blue to back him. I won't point fingers yet but I'll keep an eye on you two. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:18 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:My top suspect as of now: Ghar Ok, It's 2:15 AM here. G'night fellow townies. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:35 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I just woke up to find the mayor race pretty tight right now. Empy, Ace, Sonuvbob, and Ghar in the lead? Nice But, seriously, Ace should be highly considered for the mayor position. I don't think many have complained about his logic yet and he doesn't seem to have any motives to sabotage the town. I'd like to vote for him but my vote already went to a god already I'm proud of you, Ace. Proud of you, boy. Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:07 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:You lynched Inc.....better hope he doesn't run after you with a butcher knife, Ace. Hahahaha. On another note, congrats to randombum for getting pardoner and Ace for getting mayor. Somewhat hilarious that you decided to lynch Inc. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:39 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Or how about this? You smash a couple bottles of beer on yourself and I toss you a lit match. I think that's a much more sound solution. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:50 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I agree with Ace. As townies, let's just wait for night to transpire and go from there. Arguing is senseless at this point. For now, let's just try to keep our heads cool (well, maybe except Showtime) Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: A lot as in more than the allotted 6 for the number of bodyguards? That's a great start! Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I believe a lot of us have already discussed this already. Having a mafia mayor can still benefit the town to a certain extent. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:28 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:A mayor in general abstaining to vote does more harm than good, whether or not he's mafia. edit: D'oh! Stupid grammatical errors. Posted in night7/main_page.073 Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 18:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Guess Day 2 will be posted at 9 PM PST on March 21st. This is gonna be a loooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggg night............ zzzZZzzzzzzzZZzzzz..... Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 16:05 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Last round of Mafia reached 161 pages and that was the whole game. This round has already reached 86 and the second day/night cycle hasn't even started yet. My god......I predict that this thread will easily go past 250 pages. On another note, UCLA beats the shit out of MVS in the NCAA tourney 70-29 is a good sign for things to come. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 07:28 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Chuiu said a half-cycle lasts 48 hours. Night 1 was on the March 19th 9PM PST. Pretty sure if he sticks to that, day 2 will come in 5.5 hours. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 12:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Chuiu, keep up the good work. I can wait a couple hours, now that I'm on Spring break Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:54 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. This sounds someone like Spiderman.....and here I present my next observation: 114-zeks Display Name : zeks Birthday : August 27, 1989 Country : Canada Joined : Saturday, 8th of September 2007 Quote : "With great power comes great responsibility." That quote came EXACTLY from Spiderman. Put 2 and 2 together. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 15:04 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. 117-d.arkive Display Name : d.arkive Birthday : Country : United States Joined : Thursday, 4th of January 2007 Quote : "Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing Mentions something about a fridge. Way far-fetched as far as I am concerned but we have to be picky with clues at this time. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:10 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: + Show Spoiler + SoMuchBetter Fen Energies Camlito LoStYouRSkiLLS Bockit Siefu RowdierBob Ghar I've been following what everyone said regarding clues leading to Australia. I put the list of Australians in the spoiler (based on what they put as where they're from). If somebody did this already, please disregard this. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:13 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Since there are so many references to snakes or something that is described as being curvy (i.e. Taipan, Cottonmouth, Sidewinder), I was thinking instead that snakes probably don't refer to actual snakes but Snake from Metal Gear Solid. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 06:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: You talking about marijuana? Or a hit from the mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:03 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:IMPORTANT: I was thinking about the mentioning of the sticky gooey substance that was left behind. I believe that's a clue leading to something that most likely: 1.) Salivates i.e. dog, hydralisk, guy staring at a hot chick, etc. 2.) Points to someone's post or profile that relates to "sticking", as in sticking to a plan or an idea, for example. Plus, something that "sticks" also means it makes sense and it's practical/logical. Posted in night7/main_page.102 On March 23 2008 07:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Partying?!? Frisky with dem girls?!? HANDS ON PANTIES AND GETTING YO HANDS DIRTY?!??!?!?! Hahahahaha, I'm just messing with you, Ace. But seriously, keep partying like that and people will think you're a dirty mayor with bad intentions. Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hahaha, yeah, the town ended up giving up in despair rather than everyone dying. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:42 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: By that logic, Ghar is mafia IF AND ONLY IF Ghar is Mr. Pink. I'm sure one direction is easy to show but what about the other? Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:18 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Chuiu just responded in the day 2 voting blog. That means day post is coming! Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:51 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm pretty sure that now the Mafia has heard how Ace smoked out Mandalor, they aren't going to be prone to that kind of tactic anymore. We have to find another way to continue the streak. Either way, we are progressing in the right direction as a town. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Ghar List - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey If the Mafia knew what they were doing, they wouldn't hit any of these 7 tonight. If they did, say 1 died, then that narrows it down to 1 out of 6, better than 1 in 7. If more from that list die, that narrows down the list and increases odds of cornering scum. I think that Mafia are going to hit those who are on neither list, just so they can keep the odds of being found out as low as possible. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:11 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Based on my calculations: 103 townies left. 19 scum left. Since 7 are on Ghar and 58 are on Mandalor, that leaves 122-65=57 targets left to hit. Because 1 scum is on Ghar and 10 are on Mandalor, that leaves 19-11=8 scum to exclude from those 57. That leaves the mafia with 57-8=49 viable targets tonight. edit: my bad. it's 122, not 103 at start. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm just trying to present a percentage for those whose name wasn't on either of those lists. Since mafia can hit for a maximum of 9 targets right now, for those whose name wasn't shown, that means: 9/49, which equates to a maximum 18.4% of dying tonight. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:24 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Well, that's the pro and con side to targeting less people for the mafia. Targeting less means less dying and more people left alive to discuss ideas. That's the con. The pro is that the mafia are near guaranteeing someone's death if they assign more hits to a single target. They would usually do this if they knew someone was a certain role and needed to die. The same goes for the converse. The con to targeting more is the increased likelihood of someone being saved by a paramedic. The pro is the options for the mafia are more open and they can see who was saved and paint the target the next night for a nuclear strike. Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 05:31 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'd suspect that day post would be something like: Shallowbay gets shanked. Comes back to life. Shallowbay gets gunned down and buried. Comes back to life. Shallowbay gets incinerated. Comes back to life. Shallowbay gets his crotch kicked numerous times. Comes back to life. Shallowbay gets decapitated and has his body parts and organs chopped up and shipped to different parts of the world. Somehow comes back to life. Shallowbay gets thrown off the Chrysler building. Does a matrix bounce off the concrete floor, dies, comes back to life. Shallowbay gets a massive heart attack. Comes back to life. Shallowbay has too much fun with female associates of the mafia and dies from drunken sex and fellatio. Comes back to life. The mafia get tired of this resurrection shit, buy some liquid concrete and bury Shallow alive in a hole. The End Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:40 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Haha, you changed your sig again, Shallow. Time to report another change! Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:45 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:*Back to being serious* OK, basically what Ace is doing is herding the mafia into different, smaller pens (wow, for a moment there I almost typed penis). By doing that, we, as the town, can better deduce who is mafia from a smaller pool of choices via detective ability. Great thinking. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:48 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:It's a good plan. Not a great enough plan to nail every single scum but good enough to nail at most 11 of the remaining ones. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:38 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: In other words: he'll be partying more often and leaving the town in disarray. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:43 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Getting ass three days in a row? You are indulging yourself, sir. Hahaha.. Have fun, though. A mayor deserves a good drink or two when he's on fire (not literally) Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:28 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I WANNNNNNNNAAAAAAA BEEEEEEEEE A FRRRRRRIIIIIIEEEEEENNNNNNDDDDDDD I MMMMMAAKKKKKKEEEEEE YYYOOOOOOUUUU LLLLLAAAAUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHH Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hmmmm.....I'm suspicious too.....oh wait, that's me! Hahahaha. My posts varying in usefulness? My posts: 1) First to make deduction on Day 1 clue relating to Ghar. Check the early posts to verify that. 2) I make people laugh and laugh until nuclear launch detected goes off in their pants. 3) I'm trying to post statistical values and numbers to help people get a better understanding of how likely they are to die. 3 important facets in my posts. Most important is #2. You can't have a game of Mafia without the resident clown. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Screw you guys. I'm on gay mode 24/7 on this thread. Hahaha. Don't take me seriously. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:40 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'd like it not too hard, from the back. Shaken, not stirred. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: It's certainly possible. That is, if you shove it up someone's ass so far that you reach the brain stem, turn on the dildo, and cause the brain to dislocate from the spine. GG Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 15:03 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hahahahaha. I'm Chinese myself and I don't know whether or not I should take that as a compliment or as an insult. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 15:50 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm tired. Guess I'll update myself on this thread tomorrow when I get back from errands. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:29 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Looks like someone doesn't have a very good sense of humor. So far, you're the only one who's stepped up to complain about that. Keep in mind some of us townies actually liked the humor Shallow and Showtime! threw up. Heck, even Ace had a few chuckles here and there when we poked at him partying too much. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:22 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: 2 and counting Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:41 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Say what you want. I'll stop the spam but nothing is going to stop me from posting humor here and there. If you still have problems with humor, not my problem. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:42 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:If Chuiu stays on the 48 hour basis (assuming he can type out the day post through the pain he's going through, poor guy), then Day 3 post will be up around 10 PM PST. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:A DT, BG, and Medic are down, along with 3 townies. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:52 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:"In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover." Ace, you better hope you didn't say you came back from your numerous parties with hangovers or this can somehow point to you. Otherwise, this goes in Showtime!'s direction. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: You're dead. Now quiet Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:02 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Recurring themes: Snakes Odd ways of electronic devices malfunctioning "Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them." Well, mexicans sell oranges a lot. Wire clippers to cut wires, which led to the cutting of the phone line. Maybe we're looking for a Hispanic suspect? "Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with." Again, with the head executions. All the more to support that Ghar mayoral campaign picture. "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket" Someone with terrible grammar/Southern accent and/or with a sick sense of humor (if you think about what is in his "right pocket") Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:08 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:"Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. ShadowDrgn's corpse was bruised and bloody when it was found only an hour later by his landlord." Gauging your victim before moving in for the kill. Suspect sounds like he likes to have a general idea or plan before acting. In other words, someone hesistant, yet concise. Where have I heard landlord before in this thread.....? Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Is bumatlarge playing? That's the other name, if so. Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:OMG I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING. Those clues that keep referring to electronic devices oddly malfunctioning: this sounds like the work of something similar to an EMP blast. For those who don't know, EMP stands for Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Now, I was looking around for clues relating to EMP and guess what: only one person has EMP in his profile or name: Empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:00 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Something related to the snakes or some sort. Not too clear myself. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:55 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: If LucasWoJ was protecting dinsmab and mafia sent in two hits, dinsmab dies but LucasWoJ, the medic, shouldn't die because of that, according to the role description (unless I'm misinformed) LucasWoJ died from another hit. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:04 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm not sure if Chuiu/Dapperdan remember this but: Are the obviousness of the clues dependent on which side is winning? By that, I mean: 1) Clues are tougher to decipher if the town is on the right track. 2) Clues are easier to figure out if the town sucks ass. The reason I ask this: If the answer to the above question is yes, I'd like to point out that some of the people who fit the clues in such an obvious manner (i.e. Alethios in araav's reference above) are most likely not mafia (not saying they aren't) because at this point, since we're 1/1 as a town on lynching scum, the clues aren't as obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:08 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:When considering what I just said, don't include Ace's initial lynching. That was purely his own decision, not the town's. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:14 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hmmm.....sounds like you were targeted and saved by a paramedic. Looks like an angel is looking after you. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:15 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Waiting on Chuiu to activate double lynch in vote thread..... Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:"When double lynches are in effect each player gets two vote on two different people." Keep that in mind, people. Don't vote twice on the same person. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:To Ace: You should have the ones who are voting for you/randombum use their 2nd vote on someone else besides the two of you. That way, when you DT check the votes, there are no overlapping vote conflicts. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 07:39 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: We know that Showtime! was targeted and saved. Ace has said so and Showtime! was pretty obvious in his post about it as well. Mafia can't target their own kind so that puts Showtime! as non-scum. I advise people to switch any of their two votes away from Showtime! Your first vote should go to where Ace has said. Second vote should go anywhere BUT wurm, Ghar, randombum, or Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 08:10 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: And the fact that you've been dead for quite some time AND still posting is VERY ANNOYING. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 08:13 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Chuiu tells BOTH the target (Showtime!) and the medic (LucasWoJ) that the target was saved. Showtime! could have told Ace that he was saved. Plus, LucasWoJ is one of the medics working with Ace. Ace coordinates his medics properly and probably TOLD LucasWoJ to protect Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 08:23 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Chuiu, do as you please. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 08:33 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Well, a little too late for that, now that you quoted him. LOL No more ninja edit! Please leave the moderating to Chuiu, Mandalor. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 08:35 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:And if you're going to say that I should follow what I just said, well I'm: -Still alive -Not trying to moderate at all, unless people are being overly blatant about posting game-altering material when dead. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 09:00 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Wish there was a triple lynch option. Then I'd vote Mandalor to die a fucking second time. This is getting out of hand. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 09:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Re: 2nd edit Unless Chuiu or Dapperdan specifically asked you to cover for them while they were busy with RL stuff, I suggest you to stop arguing and stay dead. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 15:03 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Let's just fucking vote and wait until tomorrow night for the results. If araav is a douche, sick a vigi on him and say it was his fault for using his knowledge in an unfair way. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 16:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Showtime, please stop with the heated arguments. This is coming from a person who enjoys posting humor alongside you (especially when you're drunk ) You're turning into a Mandalor and that's really annoying already. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: People are claiming Showtime was lying like a fag. I, for one, am NOT going to believe he lied since everyone seems to want to lynch him on the most terrible reason: being annoying and just plain loud. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:19 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:You got to admit, though. His earlier postings were pretty lol, especially when he was drunk. About the post: On March 25 2008 05:34 Showtime! wrote: I lol'ed. Apparently the mafia has no other choice but to attack in twos. Super gay. With all this double-teaming going around they should call this game The Gay Mafia Mr. Pink: 'Hey there precious! How'd you like to get shanked by Mr. Willie?' Proceed to Shallow getting boned, etc. Necrophilia loving. He was responding to my version of a day preview where the mafia used 9 hits to nail Shallow. Let the man add his humor. However, I am in no way supporting what else he's been posting. Private chatroom? Password? Hacking? Wtf is this shit. See, this is why I don't EVER privately communicate with other people in online games, especially when it's mafia. So far, the only PMs I've received thus far is one from Chuiu, stating my role at the start, and another from Shallow when he LOL'ed at my remark at Showtime! when I told him to bathe himself in alcohol and I would throw him a lit match as a present. I don't send any messages and I never will. edit: By messages, I meant PMs. Guess I missed something: I did send a PM, one in the form of and that was sent to Shallow. That is all. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: It would be really nice if you could keep the post count to a minimum or, at the very least, keep it related with finding scum/analyzing clues. Please, no more of this emo crap. It's like your posts are literally cutting my wrists from just reading them. edit: Note: I asked politely and said "Please". It would be mature of you if you replied in the same manner. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 10:58 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Partying again?!?!? Hahaha, have fun, Ace! My votes are already where you asked me to put it, so no problem from me. Posted in night7/main_page.172 Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:48 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Joe? Bob? Mike? Gary? Judith? Micheal? Who are they? Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 10:42 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Don't you just wish there was the role Village Idiot? Then you'd encourage yourself to get lynched and maybe get the coveted mensrea no-prize That clue.....is a long one to pin. Not too sure. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 13:42 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Apparently, this thread and game has seemed to lost much of its luster. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Chuiu has the Day 4 blog thread up and that was 2 minutes ago. HERE COMES DAY Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:35 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:NOOOOOOO EMPPPPPP Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:35 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:GRATS TO THE VIGI WHO NAILED QUEASY Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:36 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:wow we fucking lost two DTs. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:43 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Well, since Showtime died, I'm guessing we're looking for someone who hated him and just wanted to kill him to put a stop to his incessant postings. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:48 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Since electricity is mentioned AGAIN, I'm thinking we're looking for someone linked to electricity. I'm thinking of something "sizzling", like someone after being fried. I'm looking towards SiZ.FaNtAsY right now but that's a pretty weak lead at the moment. Or we can easily point to Energies since electricity is a type of energy. ....How about TranceStorm? He was one of the 6 on the Ghar list in the last voting. Storm DEFINITELY relates to electricity. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:59 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I just googled Ordell and Winston and both show up in the movie Jacky Brown..... Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Jackie Brown was another film by Tarantino....but why the references to this one director? Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:20 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:One mafia was found on this list: Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. And one mafia was found on this list: Ghar - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey. ShadownDrgn is dead and by cross-checking both lists, the names that appear on both lists are possible suspects: Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:On the other hand....those 4 could be innocent and the top 2 (ironically, including me) could be the one mafia that was the one listed in the Ghar list. If those 4 ARE innocent, then that leaves the remaining ones on the Ace list who were NOT on the Ghar list: Chezinu fusionsdf ~OpZ~ Now, since I'm going to trust Ace on what he said regarding ~OpZ~, that leaves Chezinu and fusionsdf. So, we have two situations: 1) That one mafia is in both lists, which means one of these 4 are scum: Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey 2) The mafia found in Ghar's list and the one found in Ace's are NOT the same mafia guy, meaning that one of these 2 are scum: Chezinu fusionsdf That's my logic at this point. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Yea, I just thought of that and just posted both scenarios. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:37 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Another note on the second scenario: Assuming that the names on both lists are innocent (Alventenie, imDerek, TranceStorm, Evilmonkey), then that means either useLess, ShadowDrgn, or aZnvaLiaNce (me) is mafia. ShadowDrgn is dead, which narrows it down to just useLess and I. Now, most of you are probably pointing your fingers at me and thinking my logic just backfired. It's up to the town to believe whether I'm vanilla or not. I implore that you believe for now that I AM VANILLA. Why? Ace told the top 3 in the Ghar list (useLess, aZnvaLiaNce, ShadowDrgn) to vote for randombum. Now, I followed his order and voted for randombum early on(don't believe me? check the Day 3 vote blog). ShadowDrgn was dead by daybreak so that left useLess to follow up on his end. However, he never voted. Think about it: IF I was mafia, why the hell would I place myself and have a 50% chance of getting lynched? I did what Ace told me to do because I'm trying to help weed out the mole. Edit: So my final suspect list for both scenarios: 1) Alventenie, TranceStorm, imDerek, Evilmonkey 2) Chezinu, fusionsdf, useLess (highly suspicious) Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:47 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hey, I'm just trying to make things clear to the other townies. Not trying to be redundant in any way. To Ace: I suggest these 7 that I just listed vote for a certain person and have your remaining DT check that list of 7. 1) If 1 mafia is found in those 7, then the suspect list shortens down to the 4 I listed under the first scenario. 2) If 2 mafia are found, then the suspect list goes down to the 3 I listed under the second scenario. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I was thinking about another thing. I'm talking about why SonuvBob voted for randombum. He was not one of the three to vote for randombum. I direct you to this link: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?currentpage=7&topic_id=68554 Here is where SonuvBob placed his second vote for randombum. Here's what I think: At this point, I'm assuming useLess is mafia. Since he was gone for the weekend, I think he told his fellow mafia buddies to figure out something and cover for him since he was supposed to vote for randombum. Now, they couldn't risk having me alone voting for randombum since Ace would've had someone check the randombum list. At this point, I'm hoping the town can trust me that I'm clean. If no one else voted for randombum and Ace found out that no mafia was found on randombum's list (meaning that I was proven innocent), then that clearly would put useLess under heavy suspicion. What I think is that the other mafia convened and had SonuvBob place his 2nd vote on randombum so there would be a 50% mafia suspicion placed on me and lift some suspicion off useLess. Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:57 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:FUCK Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:59 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Wrong. Technically, we still have 1 DT and a jack that can act as a DT on an alternate-cycle basis, which is certainly better than working with the lone DT. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 23:18 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Please read my posts on page 187 if you haven't yet. I've already posted my reasoning. Plexa, I'd like to hear why you are pointing your finger at me. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 23:40 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Is that it? No clues to point me out? Have a detective check me on the zeks list. Like I said, read my posts. I have absolutely nothing to hide. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 07:00 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I have a strong feeling it's either fusion or useless. How many times do I have to make my case regarding my innocence....I try and try and nobody seems to give a fuck. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 09:09 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: No. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 09:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Besides suspicion on fusion and useless, I really think d.arkive has enough non-obvious clues pointing to him, especially with the "direct current/strange mechanism" clue. As for Ace, I'm like 50/50 on my position regarding him. I can't really entirely believe what he says (then again I can say the same for ALL users on the internet) but he has made some good plans to weed out scum. What strikes me odd is why he decided to stop implementing this plan. I thought it was well-thought out. You can't just let a couple mis-lynches keep you down. Do I have to present the Rick-roll video to prove my point? NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:23 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Everyone having a role? Man, when someone dies, it's gonna be worse than a green dying.... that would be chaos. 60 player cap? I don't wanna be left out. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 14:27 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm assuming Day is approaching? Probably explains the inactivity in this thread at the moment. Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:54 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Rebar, a portmanteau for reinforcing bar or reinforcement bar, is common steel bar, is commonly used in reinforced concrete and reinforced masonry structures. It is usually formed from carbon steel, and is given ridges for better frictional adhesion to the concrete. It can also be described as reinforcement or reinforcing steel. In Australia it is colloquially known as reo. SoleSteeler....... edit: As for bolding carbon, I thought that might point to useless, since his profile says that his favorite book is organic chem, which deals with the studies of chemical processes in carbon-based matter (organic = made of carbon). Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:01 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Wait a minute.....the use of knives, nails, and targeting projectiles.....we labeled as being characteristic of a ninja. Sure, Ninja4Ever is clearly obvious but what about..... G.s)NarutO? Naruto, for those who don't follow anime, is a ninja that aspires to be a hokage. Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 17:10 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Declare 2x and let's do it. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 10 2008 23:40 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: I vote for who I, and only I, believe to be scum. I do it early because I don't bandwagon. What I'm wondering is why LastRomantic, Joxxor, and G.s)NarutO voted SoleSteeler just right after I did..... Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:17 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I've already pleaded my innocence pages and pages ago (around 187?). If you're not going to listen and not see how I'm trying to actually TRY to nail red, not my problem. As for now, since I'm having fingers pointed in my direction, and I know myself to be green, it's very suspicious in my own mind that Plexa is red. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:00 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:To Ace: Wait until Chuiu does his first vote count. Keep a note of who refuses to take their vote off me. I'm highly sure that those who don't change their vote are scum (or at least one of them is) Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:26 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: From what I see, it's Plexa BlindAlbino MTF Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:44 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:ROFL 1/2 edit: 我是hydralisk!!! WOOOO Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:45 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Guess that settles it the Ghar list dilemma earlier, as well as the randombum one. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 18:29 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Now, the question: What's next? What list do we follow now? Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 18:54 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Ace ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob butidigress Work with this. Hope it helps. Posted in night7/main_page.215 On April 12 2008 19:11 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Pay particular close attention to those who voted during every phase. Those are the lurkers. The ones who missed one or more voting phases are the inactive ones. Posted in night7/main_page.215 Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 04:16 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. New104 asked to check this list. 1 was on this list and that's Evilmonkey. No error there. Posted in night7/main_page.222 Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:32 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Too bad Ace can't 2x in the day. Otherwise, we'd be able to nail another fag too. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:47 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm 280th. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 15 2008 23:21 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: BlindAlbino as Black Mamba Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 14:03 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Wow......fuck. Talk about a gruesome death..... Good luck to the town. I'll be watching from the side. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:12 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:Currently Playing: Final Fantasy - Victory Fanfare Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:19 aZnvaLiaNce wrote: Hope you feel better, man. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:45 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I don't wanna sound arrogant or self-centered but... I vote for the great KTF-godlike fan, LastRomantic. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:29 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I believe I made some very interesting point-outs on the clues but doesn't seem anyone wants to acknowledge them or at least recognize me for my efforts. Anyways, I was one of the guys who pointed out the clue about the eight cardinal directions on the first day early on. I also have strong suspicions on zeks as well but I'll go with my initial instinct. I vote for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I vote to lynch randombum. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 06:43 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:My second vote goes to Ghar. | ||
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46. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 07:41 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I'm changing my second vote. My second vote changes from Ghar to zeks. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 06:30 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 16:50 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I vote for SoleSteeler. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 07:23 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:My second vote goes to SonuvBob. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 16:41 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:I change my votes. I first vote for Evilmonkey. I vote for Siefu second. + Show Spoiler [ahrara_] + 85. ahrara_ Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:09 ahrara_ wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:59 ahrara_ wrote:I'm officially announcing my candidacy for mayor. My platform -- I will lynch Dr. Dragoon first thing. And ya, I signed up by pming Chiui earlier. Just kidding goon. No hate. Just <3. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:51 ahrara_ wrote:What fusion is saying is that someone declaring their candidacy after the game starts is more likely to be scum. By the way, I was kidding about my candidacy. Don't vote for me. Not that anyone would've to begin with ;(. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:03 ahrara_ wrote:Chuiu, the "you must vote" rule sounds promising, but what's gonna happen if you don't? You should make the consequences more clear. I think a 3 strikes rule would work best -- you can't miss more than three votes in a row or you're out of the game. If you just kill off people who miss a vote, or some number of votes over a period of time, you're unfairly punishing townies for having inactives. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:00 ahrara_ wrote: I'm looking forward to reading it O_O. How much do you wanna bet chuiu will make fusionsdf mafia just fuck with us? Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:58 ahrara_ wrote:If I posted my good looks, people would lynch me out of jealousy. Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:00 ahrara_ wrote: Quoted for emphasis. This is a great idea. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 15:51 ahrara_ wrote: That doesn't make any logical sense. How would withdrawing their candidacy in any way make them look like scum? Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:18 ahrara_ wrote:No qrs. What I'm asking is how you can draw the conclusion that someone is mafia just because they withdraw their candidacy. So if I decide to be a candidate and later withdraw it, you're going to lynch me? I understand the mafia don't want to split the vote, but there are enough legitimate reasons not to want to run for mayor it's not conclusive. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:31 ahrara_ wrote:Lynch qrs Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 16:34 ahrara_ wrote:You're next. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 15:37 ahrara_ wrote:I can't imagine how much it must've sucked to be you last round. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:00 ahrara_ wrote:I vote to lynch Dr. Dragoon. Oh Oh, we're electing a mayor. I'll vote later. Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:52 ahrara_ wrote: Ghar, your plan is seriously flawed. I don't think you've thought this through, which is why I'm going to encourage people not to vote for you. If there was a contest over best election poster however, you'd win by a landslide. There are four detectives. They can use their role finding abilities twice in the game, and once a day. However, noone knows who the detectives are. A mafia mayor could have a fellow mobster, even two, pretend to be detectives and report that you're the mayor. You could have the detectives detect the detectives, but that'd cause the same problem, and the real detectives would be using their abilities in vain. So it's not that easy, but at least it's better than what FS did. edit: For chrissake, if you're going to run for mayor, do more than a half-assed job. Can't be worse than fakesteve doesn't cut it. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:04 ahrara_ wrote: I don't understand. If the mayor is mafia, and he convinces the real detectives to find out people's roles for him, then it's pretty much game over. If he's not mafia, he can't absolutely trust the detectives, because the mafia could be faking 4 detectives and reporting mob members as having the roles. BTW Ghar, I didn't mean you were half-assing it. I mean, well, it's clear the liquidians I'm talking about. Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:31 ahrara_ wrote:Ok ACE, I think Ghar's already posted your plan. So as I understand it, it's up for a real detective to report the mayor as mafia in case he is mafia. To verify this, we lynch said detective (as he's going to get killed anyway if he's real) to see if he's telling the truth. If he wasn't, that's one mafia down. If he was, then we lynch the mayor next. From there on, the mayor does his best to verify the other roles. I buy it so far, but I'll think about it before I vote. For now anyway, my vote is leading towards Ghar, because it's becoming more apparent to me how much rests on the mayor's shoulders, and Ghar's the only one who's given us a solid strategy. I also don't think he's mafia because of how fast his candidacy came up. I agree with bumatlarge. If I were mob, I wouldn't go run for mayor on a whim the moment the game starts. Also, I feel like a lot of people aren't giving the mayoral election a lot of thought. A HUGE amount of the detective work rests on the mayor's shoulders. Voting for somebody because they mass PMed you is a bad idea. If you're running for mayor on those grounds, seriously, give it a break. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:39 ahrara_ wrote:Voting for Empyrean is the WORST option we have, from a cost-benefit point of view. 1. Empyrean does not appear to have read much of the analysis from last night, including Ace's Bodyguard plan. He doesn't appear to have a good grasp of what's going on. He is basically trying to coerce us into voting for him because he may or may not be a detective. 2. Everybody may or may not be a detective. Claiming you are one at this point is ZERO reason to believe you are a detective, and not mafia. There is no hard evidence pointing in either direction. 3. Cost/Benefit analysis: I. Empyrean is a detective and we -- a. Vote him in. Great, he has protection. With Ace as the mayor (it looks like he's going to win), it means he'll be a pardoner and probably take a less minor role in leadership. I think after he colludes with Ace, he'll do a good job. b. Vote for someone else very unlikely to be mafia, i.e. Ghar or randombum. You will need several medics to keep Emp alive, because doubtless the mafia are going to devote a lot of killing power to get him out of the game. II. Empyrean is scum and we -- a. Vote him in. Ace will find out he is scum and we'll lynch him. We'll be down one pardoner, meaning one less person with bodyguard protection and no pardoning power. b. Vote for someone else. Ace will coordinate the real detectives to find out that he's scum, and the town will lynch the piano playing, twice-mafia bastard. Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. How good each scenario is, in order, with how good each scenario is on a scale of 1-10, 5 being neutral. 1. Don't vote for Emp, find out he's scum, kill him, and have a list of suspects based on who voted for him, among other things. (10) 2. Vote for emp, and we get a protected detective (6, because under Ace's plan, detectives are kept secret anyway). 3. Don't vote for emp We lose a detective, but we vote in a reliable pardoner, who is probably not mafia -- in my mind either Ghar or randombum. (4) 4. The WORST is Empyrean being scum and we vote him in. (1) The best we can do by voting for emp is a 6. The worst is a 1. The best we can do by NOT voting for Emp is a 10, and the worst is a 4. Losing a detective is not a huge loss because we have a lot. A pardoner is important because it keeps the mob in check, and nullifies the bandwagon effect. There are things the mayor and pardoner can know that the town can't. This town would fare better losing a detective than a pardoner. For that reason, I strongly recommend you Do NOT vote for Empyrean. Lightning edit: I wrote "best" instead of "worst". Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:54 ahrara_ wrote:Some more points I want to make. First, a protected detective is NOT that valueable. Under Ace's plan, it will be made clear who the detectives are. He will be their mouthpiece, and their identities will remain secret. They can only die if they're accidentally killed off. Second, you can't really save somebody if the Mafia is determined to kill them. They can use several kill points to make sure they take out an important role. It might be viable in the beginning, when you have all 7 medics saving one person because that's the only one they know is worth saving, but it would difficult to keep him alive for long when there are more people (including innocent townies who are likely to be targetted just becaused the contribute a lot) worth saving later in the game. Finally, clues at this point are useless. I can't emphasize this enough. Let me try again. CLUES AT THIS POINT ARE USELESS. All this pointless, unsubstantiated finger pointing is annoying, QUIT IT. When a lot of them start to add up, and there's behavioral clues to add to it, then it becomes worth talking about. A lot of people were lynched last game on a whim. Let's not do that again. The clues pointing to Ghar aren't very sound at all. I don't buy them for a second, but if a lot of them started to suggest him loosely, then I'll consider it some more. In fact, I would ask that clue analysis be kept to yourself for now, because it makes you a target and it causes unneeded and unwarranted suspicions amongst townies. Although you should by all means continue analyzing, just post them ONLY when you have a strong case against someone. This and this clue might point to this person is pure shit. The town can only be hurt by this pointless finger pointing. Oh man, that's a terrible pun. ;( Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:09 ahrara_ wrote: Chill. I posted what I felt was reasonable. I don't know if you're real or not atm, and I didn't mean anything by that adjective. My numerical assignments were based on my subjective opinion. I only introduced it to make my point more clear. I think if you fuddle the numbers around some, you'd come up with the same conclusion, that the risk of voting for you outweight the benefits. We have 4 detectives, and not two like last game. It sucks to have to lose one, but we can deal with three. I still feel that the pardoner, because he is protected and because he can keep the town in check, is more valuable. With 130 people, he'll likely be able to pardon more than last game too. Seriously, I think your decision to reveal your role was a bad idea, regardless if you're mafia or townie. You could've become mayor by campaigning hard, adopting Ace's plan, and using your reputation from last game. It would've helped if you'd started earlier. Then, we would've had a detective mayor, and not had to go through this drama. It comes down to this: We don't know if you're detective or scum or a townie who wants the mayoral position bad. There is absolutely no more reason to believe you're any of these roles than there is to believe that I am any of these roles. This is a simple, sound, and logical fact. On the other hand, the suspicions your actions invoked seriously hurt your chances of winning. He's going to have to reveal a bodyguard then. Sacrificing somebody to make sure the mayor can be trusted is worth it. I'm not actually sure about the specifics... Ace, wanna follow up? Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:45 ahrara_ wrote:After some reflection, Ace, I have problems with the bodyguard plan. I have a problem with any plan that doesn't sacrifice a detective to discover the mayor's innocence. That is the only sure way to make sure the mayor is clean. I've run the logic through my head several times, and I see no way of verifying the mayor's innocence unless you lynch a detective voluntarily. I bought what you were saying for a while, but after taking it into deeper consideration, I'm having more and more problems with your logic. I came to the same conclusions about the bodyguard plan others have already. You haven't answered their posts very well at all, I think. Your plan is flawed, and since the counters to them have been all posted here, it's very likely now that the mafia is going to use them. Your only response so far (unless I've missed them) is that it's not worth it for the mafia to risk outing a member. But since detectives can't be trusted (unless they're hanged) there's no way to be sure who's mafia. I'm not sure if it's worth sacrificing a detective to prove the mayor's innocence, but his ability to coordinate the town without being hit seems powerful enough to warrant it. So unless this round proves me wrong, I'm going to reserve my vote unless a candidate is willing to make that sacrifice, or shows me the flaw in my logic. Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:50 ahrara_ wrote: That's what I was looking for. You've completely won me over. Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:26 ahrara_ wrote:Shallow, on this page alone you have three posts that pretty much contribute nothing. I'm sure everybody appreciates your clue analysis from before, but the pointless one liners are annoying. There are enough posts to wade through already, and you've made 20 or so such posts already today. Please stop. Posted in night7/main_page.047 Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:47 ahrara_ wrote: This is just bad logic. You can't go about lynching people based on one clue. A lot of clues from last game were misinterpreted so that innocents were lynched. People ignored behavioral clues. Had they paid attention to how people posted, Empyrean would've been long dead. There are people whose behaviors already warrant serious suspicion, besides the obvious ones, if you take the time to look at people's posting history. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:52 ahrara_ wrote:Ok, I see what you're saying there, and agree with you. It's still a bad idea to ask others to lynch people based on a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:57 ahrara_ wrote:I see clues as largely a means of supporting a suspicion, not the beginning of one. Like I said, if you've been following the thread, there have been people who've done some weird things that warrant suspicions. Nothing for sure, but plenty of starting points not based on clues. Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:55 ahrara_ wrote:Ok, I understand now. Thanks for taking the initiative. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 18:04 ahrara_ wrote:I'm posting here to urge people to withdraw their votes for Empyrean and switch to randombum, in the hopes that enough people will listen so that Empyrean is not made pardoner. At the same time, I think the town has agreed that Ace should be the mayor, so let's not get carried away and make randombum mayor by accident. Keep an eye on the vote tally, but let's work together to keep Empyrean out of office. The only reason people believe Empyrean is worth putting in that valuable spot is because he claims he is a detective. This is not verifiable information in any way, and there is no reason to trust Empyrean. For the purpose of electing a mayor, that statement can be tossed out the window. Randombum is just as likely to be a detective as Empyrean. However, there's the added bonus that randombum is less likely to be a mafia ploy because he announced his campaign before the game started, whereas Empyrean's role claiming makes him suspect. Emp's poor decision making and suspicious activity make him a poor candidate for a leadership role, whatever his reputation from last game may be. This is not grounds to support emp at all. I strongly urge everybody to VOTE RANDOMBUM in order to keep Empyrean out of office. If you're holding out because you think Empyrean taking Pardoner is inevitable -- it's not. We just need TEN people to vote randombum, or FIVE people to change their vote. That's out of 130 people playing. Change your vote now, before it's too late. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 18:10 ahrara_ wrote: Well, you had my vote initially. Unfortunately, you're the Ralph Nader of this election. If you endorsed randombum, we can keep Empyrean out of office, which I think is important. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:45 ahrara_ wrote:Just so I don't look like a total moron in case Empyrean turns out to be innocent ... I am not saying Empyrean is Mafia. I don't even have strong suspicions at the moment. I would NOT vote to lynch him, and strongly suggest that paramedics protect him the first night, until we verify his role, and until he uses both his role checks himself. I am arguing from a logical point of view that there is no reason to trust that he is detective. There is no reason to believe he's not a detective either. I'm just saying that given that we can't trust anybody, it's equally likely randombum is a detective. Role claiming at this point is useless, and more likely to be a ploy. If Emp turns out ot be innocent, well fuck me. I'll end up looking like a moron, and Ace too. In my opinion though, it's better to be safe than sorry. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 02:51 ahrara_ wrote: Dude. Afghanistan was the first country on the list. I am obviously from the states. For game purposes, I'm not going to change it now. Posted in night7/main_page.053 On March 20 2008 03:15 ahrara_ wrote:Falcynn: Not if they can take out 4-5 medics along with the guy. Ya, I forgot about the suicide bomber. So Empyrean's screwed. That's his fault. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 08:54 ahrara_ wrote: Go ahead and post it now, so we can discuss it and ACE will see if he can correct it before finalizing the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:17 ahrara_ wrote: Why are you so convinced Emp is innocent? Electing the mayor is a shot in the dark. We don't know if they are or aren't townies. We do the best we can. The best we can suggests that Ace is innocent, because he's contributed a lot of ideas that can help the town. Emp made a stupid decision that can either cost us a detective or land up with a mafia as pardoner. Nobody is voting by certainty, just by likelihood. Just because there's the possibility you'll be hit by a bus doesn't mean you shouldn't cross the street. As for the detective innocence problem -- this is a big issue. The problem is the detectives don't know who each other are, and to be sure the investigation is actually completed, they'll ALL have to use up a role check on the mayor. My solution is simple. Instead, we should have both jacks check up on the mayor. Jacks are not as useful, and we'll be wasting two checks instead of four, and we can't have emp do it (assuming he is a detective) because no doubt the mafia will use a saboteur on him. If we rely on emp, it'll be another night before we find out if the mayor is clean. This has been brought up a million times. The bodyguard plan has already been shown to be a flawed method for proving the mayor's innocence. The only way to be sure is to sacrifice a jack. That's likely what will end up happening. EDIT: OOPS! I misunderstood the jack's role. Ignore what I just said. It's better to sacrifice four detective role checks than lose a jack. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:30 ahrara_ wrote: What do you mean? Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:33 ahrara_ wrote:Yes, and I was making fun of his pettiness. Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 09:55 ahrara_ wrote:The value of role checking is it lets the mayor coordinate the players. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:59 ahrara_ wrote:Hey folks, it looks like the voting is split between randombum and Ace. Just to be sure, let's have a few people change their votes back to Ace so we don't end up with bum as a mayor by accident. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:01 ahrara_ wrote:I hope people aren't PMing you their roles already o_O. I really think people shouldn't do this yet. Ace seems trustworthy, but it could all be a ploy to earn our trust. An experienced player would know just how to pull that off. If that's the case, he probably figured he could sacrifice himself to make it harder, if not impossible, for townies to get organized. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:04 ahrara_ wrote:Well, I still don't think you're worth trusting even with strats and suspicions. Alven: I sure as hell hope detectives aren't revealing their roles to him. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:10 ahrara_ wrote:oops, I thought detectives can't get their investigation info back until tomorrow, but then I read the role information again. Tomorrow morning I think will have been long enough for at least one detective to post in case you are mafia. Then we can really get started =). Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:36 ahrara_ wrote: Funny how you get all sensitive when someone insults you, but it's ok for you to be a bitch to everyone else. I don't really care about what French_Toast has to say. I just hope the townies realize that just a few people being persuaded to not send in their PMs by this possible mafia ploy are going to seriously weaken Ace's plan. It's possible the mafia realize this, and have sent a saboteur in to get enough people upset that the plan doesn't work. Send in your PMs, for everyone's sake. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:04 ahrara_ wrote: It doesn't affect voting. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 13:19 ahrara_ wrote:If you're a DT, you should do investigate ace, period. If you haven't you should do it now. It doesn't matter that we're wasting 4 role checks. It's worth it to make sure that the job is actually done. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 08:11 ahrara_ wrote: Unless Emp actually is a detective and the whole townie thing was a last ditch effort to save himself. If I were mafia, I'd figure it's more valuable to kill Emp than to risk letting a detective go free. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:42 ahrara_ wrote:Chuiu, have my babies? I don't know whether to be relieved or hurt the mafia doesn't think I'm worth killing. Since I don't like dealing with clues, I'll let other people worry about that. Some things I noticed though -- 6 people dead, meaning either the mafia chose not to use all its killing power, or they chose to use more than one kill on at least one of the dead people, or they attacked somebody with at least 3 paramedics defending. I think the last option is the most likely. I strongly feel that the protected person was Empyrean. There is nobody else they'd have a reason to send more than one guy after, and given Emp's claim as a townie, they probably didn't want to risk wasting a suicide bomber on him. Now that they found he's being protected, they might read that as either he is actually a detective or that he's worth sending a suicide bomber after. Either way, I think it vindicates Emp. Or maybe I'm missing something. I get the feeling I'm missing something. Another point is that the mafia don't appear that smart this game. They killed people who were under heavy suspicion, notably CTStalker and oneBlueAugust. I was ready to vote against him on the basis of the grudge clue alone. They did not kill people whose analysis was more helpful, like carnival and shallow. I'm sorry mynock's gone. His posts were usually worth reviewing. I'm interested in seeing what our clue interpreters pick up. Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 ahrara_ wrote:Oh. Right. That'll teach me to skim posts. And that'll teach blues to lynch/kill people without better evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 13:56 ahrara_ wrote:It sucks we've lost two blues, but I think today's worth celebrating. In all respects, the town got the better of the mafia. For some reason, they weren't able to use all their kills, most likely because they hit somebody who was very well protected. We're pulling ahead, if only slightly. Remember that detectives now get to ask more questions, since they used up the first on Ace. As a town, I think there are a few things we should focus on to make sure we get the bad guys: 1. Matching clues to people with suspicious behavior and detective information. I don't say clue interpretation because as CTStalker's case has shown, even the most apparently strong clues are "right" only half the time. If we do have a clue that seems very strong, I'm sure Ace will have a detective investigate it. We should never lynch on the basis of a clue alone. 2. PM Ace your roles. WTF seriously, you should've done this already, especially if you're a blue. 3. Hold your horses and don't lynch/kill/plant a bomb unless you're sure, based on more than just clues, that the person is mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:00 ahrara_ wrote: This is information Ace is probably not going to reveal publicly, unless a bandwagon gets started with Emp on top. So I'm just speculating. Anyway, Emp was my top suspect until now. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:04 ahrara_ wrote: No, it's just as shitty of a strategy as lynching people on a whim. Planting a bomb is just as good as killing somebody. I admit I was sold on Stalker's clue, and would've voted for him if there were no other suspects, but I still think clues alone are the weakest thing to go on. Nobody should kill somebody if all we have against them is a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.093 On March 22 2008 14:12 ahrara_ wrote:The 44-str clue seems pretty strong Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:36 ahrara_ wrote:Do you have any idea how many people hit you? I was sure the saved person was Empyrean. If it wasn't, then that's a very good reason to suspect him. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 02:46 ahrara_ wrote:Hahahaha. Good game Ghar. And I almost voted for you. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 15:50 ahrara_ wrote: Our mayor doesn't have a license . Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:47 ahrara_ wrote:I trust Ace and I agree with his logic. At the same time, I understand why some people are frustrated about his request to withdraw votes for Ghar. In case it's not already clear, there are two reasons Ace's request is a good idea. First, Ace is trying to maintain order and establish discipline. He's not defending Ghar on a whim. While I think it's clear that Ghar is mafia, I also realize that townie discipline will be crucial to making sure we don't lynch the wrong people on a bandwagon. I strongly urge everybody to listen to Ace. If it comes down to the last hour and there's no response, then we simply lynch Ghar anyway. Second, Ace is trying to make sure that Ghar is mafia in fact. I personally buy the clue completely, but it never hurts to double check. If everybody votes for Ghar right now, and it turns out he's innocent at the last minute, then there's nothing we can do about it. If most people abstain, then we'll be able to save Ghar and lynch a real mafioso. As for Ace's innocence, there's a remote possibility he's actually mafia. We have to keep this possibility open. Again, I urge any detective that has not investigated Ace already to do so now, just in the off chance that the three other detectives have not already done so. Still, since we have nothing better to go off of, we have very good reason to trust him. If Ace were mafia, I don't think he'd be stupid enough to risk his credibility defending an obvious mafia like Ghar. One Mafia alone isn't worth it. (Anyway, when he votes, we'll see if he's actually roleblocked. You are going to vote, right Ace?) He certainly would NOT be trying to establish order in the town. Finally, there's some of you that need to manner up. We're all in this game for fun. Part of what takes away from that is a bunch of people acting like 15 year olds. If you disagree with somebody, bring it up in public, and do it respectfully. I don't want to read your whiny, unpunctuated bullshit on this thread or in my mailbox. If you can't understand that this is a game and people are playing it to have fun, then get the fuck out. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:02 ahrara_ wrote: Are you investigating Ghar at least? I read your post from before, but I think Ghar's clue is a much more "sure fire" case. I think for the sake of your credibility, you should encourage Ghar's lynching. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:33 ahrara_ wrote:I'm voting for Mandalor, but if it doesn't work out I'm not going to follow you on blind faith anymore. I hope you get a vigilante on Ghar. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:54 ahrara_ wrote:LYNCH THE BASTARD Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:19 ahrara_ wrote: Ya, I kinda agree. I think the town's ability to organize really hurts the fun of the game. Last game was awesome to follow because of all the drama. It was exciting to see mandalor get caught, and it was a clever move on ace's part but meh, I get the feeling the rest of the game is going to be straightforward, with mafia after mafia being caught because of clues. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:41 ahrara_ wrote:IIRC chobo made a post on the last page asking chuiu if he would count votes that were edited. I'm also pretty sure I saw him abstain before he voted mandalor, but I can't remember when. Sorry to disappoint you =(. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:42 ahrara_ wrote: Could be Kuja voted dragoon for shits and giggles. Dragoon retaliates. It may be worth checking them out, but it shouldn't be a priority. Mafia wouldn't be dumb enough to be the sole voter on somebody... right? Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:43 ahrara_ wrote: No dude, if you read smurfingchobo's post, it's been edited. He also pointed out that it was edited after voting ends. On the 23rd he abstained. After your announcement he edited his vote. So there's nothing suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:45 ahrara_ wrote:I say we lynch dr. dragoon for shits and giggles. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:48 ahrara_ wrote:Assuming Ghar is mafia, it would be unlikely for mafia to try to field two viable candidates - unless they were greedy enough to go after pardoner also - because they would split the vote. IIRC, both campaigned hard against each other. One or the other is mafia, not both. Just some pondering: I can see why the mafia would want to field a fake medic, then they would be in on who's being saved. But a veteran??? What the hell? Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:18 ahrara_ wrote:Fielding a vet is just bad strategy. They have no useful abilities, so they can't gain any information. When you have 2 real vets but 3 people report as a vet, then you have three strong suspects. Mafia need to protect their numbers as much as possible. Given that, fielding a vet wasn't a smart idea for them. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:20 ahrara_ wrote: Now I wanna know too. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:44 ahrara_ wrote: Wrong. When there's nothing else to go off of, and there are clues pointing vaguely at one of the three, then you're going to get picked off next. And it doesn't cause any confusion that's useful. Who cares who the vets are? Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 11:59 ahrara_ wrote:Or they could just... kill you. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 14:13 ahrara_ wrote:Mafia should be the last concern of yours when you've got a kidney stone inside you =(. Get well soon. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:34 ahrara_ wrote:In my narrative writeup of this game, I'm making showtime and shallow gay lovers. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:40 ahrara_ wrote: In mine, show time kills you with an electric dildo. -_-' Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 14:49 ahrara_ wrote:I'm actually chinese. We make of things plenty of things that kill people unintentionally. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 05:00 ahrara_ wrote: No. He's not. Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 06:03 ahrara_ wrote: It's a matter of posts without content clogging up the useful posts. It's just kind of annoying. I'm not saying you shouldn't have banter, I've done it, just could everyone tone it down some. I haven't been keeping up with the thread lately because of starcraft & all my spring break reading =(, so I will be abstaining. I'm not following Ace's plan because I haven't been able to review the evidence/logic and I'm not certain. You can suspect me if you want, but I'm going to be voting for some random person so you can check with a DT. Posted in night7/main_page.142 On March 26 2008 12:12 ahrara_ wrote: Please stop spamming. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:10 ahrara_ wrote:C.) Focus on other, more worthwhile suspects, like Ghar, and not waste a role check. P.S. The drama is getting heated. Fight the man! Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:21 ahrara_ wrote: Quick being so dramatic. I don't see anybody else throwing a fit. Nor do you have sure evidence that araav "hacked it", and that it wasn't an internal leak. IF araav really did hack, then I agree, get rid of this guy from all future mafia games. It's the same of shittiness, in my mind, as SonuvBob using his admin powers to look through PMs (assuming he has them). Yes, it is a risk setting up a chat room, but when someone does something illegal to get in, then no way should that be tolerated. On the other hand, if he got in through social engineering, then that's too bad for you guys. I want town to win, of course (), but we have to take responsibility if somebody on the inside leaked information. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:22 ahrara_ wrote:I wanna clarify that sonuvbob of course has probably not looked through anyone's PMs, I was just using that as a hypothetical. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 13:25 ahrara_ wrote: I agree. Showtime, you need to calm the fuck down. You're stirring up a pretty minor incident into a fucking drama-fest. The way you post is annoying, and I hope either that you shape up or that you're banned from future mafia games. Whatever side you're on, your attitude detract from the game's fun. And sorry for the triple post, but I want to avoid editing in here. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:49 ahrara_ wrote: So he can't hack it unless he finds out about it. He can't find out about it unless somebody tells him about it. Therefore, somebody told him about it. Simple, capiche? Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:49 ahrara_ wrote: this is ironic given my recent blog post but get rid of the little ten year old piece of shit please. I'm voting to lynch him. Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:05 ahrara_ wrote:god damn Posted in night7/main_page.171 On March 29 2008 08:40 ahrara_ wrote: no you fucking haven't, are you stupid? Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:43 ahrara_ wrote:I onlyvoted for wurm because Ace made us. Seriously, just because someone disagrees with you isn't reason to lynch them. Unless they're showtime. But this was just crappy, power hungry decision making from Ace. I can't blame anyone on the Ghar clue though, I thought that was a dead giveaway, yet why didn't Ace use a detective check on it at least??? Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:44 ahrara_ wrote:self ingratiating back rubbing: I called Empyrean's bluff like 50 pages back. Or i mentally called it and didn't post, so the mafia wouldn't get ideas. I don't think it was hard to see through it, though. And may I be the first to offer the mafia a hearty thank-you for hitting showtime. It's appreciated. It's not ace's fault mafia got the DTs. Empyrean gave himself away, and New104 looks like good luck. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:19 ahrara_ wrote:Empyrean, they targeted you because you told everyone you were a DT. I mean, that's pretty obvious right? I don't think anyone bought that you were just a plain townie. At least, I wouldn't have, if I were a mafia on the lookout for detectives. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:27 ahrara_ wrote:I like qrs's line of thinking. It would implicate araav strongly if the people who were killed tonight just so happened to be the ones who idled Ace's channel. But only Ace and the other idlers can answer to that. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:17 ahrara_ wrote:How the fuck did they know Hittegods was a DT? Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:38 ahrara_ wrote:I vote Ghar for mayor. Unless a better option comes along, or fusionsdf posts something even better. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 08:21 ahrara_ wrote:I vote for Ace, and withdraw my vote for Ghar. I really don't like the idea of Empyrean taking either important position. (because his actions are just suspicious). Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 23 2008 02:36 ahrara_ wrote:I abstain. (changed below) Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 02:52 ahrara_ wrote:I vote for Ghar. The picture clue is pretty definite. It's the strongest clue we've got, by far. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:43 ahrara_ wrote:Out of respect for Ace, I withdraw my vote and abstain. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:34 ahrara_ wrote:I change my vote to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:13 ahrara_ wrote:I vote wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 00:50 ahrara_ wrote:I use my second vote on showtime. I don't care if he's a fucking DT. What an asshole. + Show Spoiler [araav] + 51. araav Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:37 araav wrote:I agree that confirmations from player would be nice... If they wouldn't even confirm it is already a good sign they will go inactive. 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Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:53 araav wrote: That's a wrong approach, Bobbie. If you vote me, you should encourege everybody voting for you to vote for me too. Now, whoever votes for Sonuv, how good is that your leader has another boss?! Everybody vote for araav, he's you clever leader Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:25 araav wrote:Hey, CDR got some work there... thanks! okay, first, i am unknown mafia-wise, right now, know me! I read every single post in the 1st mafia. I was really surprised how stupid can a mayor be. If i am a mafia, detectives can find it really easy, then people can lynch me as soon as they find no more double lynch is needed. I spent only 30 minutes to get the list of profile, my linux awk skills did it + Show Spoiler + for you -- #! /bin/gawk -f BEGIN { username=ENVIRON["CURRENT_USER"] echo username if (username == "") { print("No CURRENT_USER defined"); exit 1; } } /User name/ { puname=1; next; } /Joined TL.net/ {pjoin=1; next; } /Birthday/ {pbd=1; next; } /Country/ {pct=1; next; } /Quote/ {pquote=1; next; } /Public Profile:/{ppublic=1; next; } // { if (puname == 1 && uname == "") { // parse this line as user name gsub(/<\/font.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); uname = trim($0); puname=0 } if (pjoin == 1 && join == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); join = trim($0); pjoin=0 } if (pbd == 1 && bd == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); bd = trim($0); pbd=0 } if (pct == 1 && ct == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); ct = trim($0); pct=0 } if (pquote == 1 && quote == "") { gsub(/<\/td.*/, ""); gsub(/<.*>/, ""); quote = trim($0); pquote=0 } if (ppublic == 1 && public == "") { } } END { dir="./users/" username system("mkdir -p '" dir "'"); fln = dir "/joined tl.net" print join > fln fln = dir "/birthday" print bd > fln fln = dir "/country" print ct > fln fln = dir "/quote" print quote > fln fln = dir "/dispname" print uname > fln print " Display Name : " uname print " Birthday : " bd print " Country : " ct print " Joined : " join print " Quote : " quote } function trim(s) { gsub(/^[[:blank]*/, "", s); gsub(/[[:blank]*$/, "", s); return s } ok, now stop looking around and vote for araav! Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:33 araav wrote: Ghar, for me-- Taipan Snake is an Australian snake, and you are from Australia, so there is a chance you are mafia! + Show Spoiler + 1/9th chance, but still... [ara@alx64dev tls2]$ grep Australia users.details | wc -l 9 Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:35 araav wrote: sure I got, I am in top 30 in brainbench by c++ skills, but this is AWK, not c++ Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:37 araav wrote:hey, it takes me 5-10 minutes to write a small script to download the pages from TL, grep the person's posts, posts, where he's mentioned, etc. or anything else. don't worry, town, will do that anyway, mayor or not Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:19 araav wrote:I am really glad for your support, guys. I was going to post something Klive5ive did about matching the clues vs me. Even though this isn't enough to prove I am a townie, but as soon as later we get the this proved by detectives, we;ll have a mayor to trust to. To fight against the mafia's strength, we need a group of dedicated townies. I will do my best to collect this group - one by one. No single mafia can slip in. Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 22:54 araav wrote: let's analyze a bit. In case you happen to be a mafia and a detective finds it out, mafia sacrifies a simple member to a town's ability to have extra mafia lynches. sounds very appealing from mafia's perspective. so this is NOT a good, convincing plan. And you still did nothing for me not to suspect you. There can't be a flawless plan for mayor voting, you know. otherwise the game would suck. I am guessing one of detectives will check the mayor anyways.. this can't be your plan. Also you said "ok, lynch me and find out". This is never a good towny way. This means you do not care about the town at best! Now, what Empy did is very stupid too... He put us in a situation where we cannot let him just die. If he is a real detective, then he must be voted as a Mayor or Pardoner. He would be awesome. If he's a mafia, we just lose the role of mayor or pardoner. Now, I think while the townies outnumber the mafias by a lot, the mafia pardoner is not that dangerous for the town. He will be dangerous only when each mafia pardoning will mean very critical for the town... So I propose to make Empyrean the pardoner and never the Mayor Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 23:12 araav wrote: you so-called strategy is simply too superficial and could easily move to a Mayor lose for the town. At this stage of the game, it is best to vote for people who seem towny - i.e. DO not seem suspicious AT ALL: no clue-interpretations about them, no stupid moves (like Empy did) Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:17 araav wrote:this sucks... how could people vote for a very primitive plan? now, many will jump "something is way better than nothing". to which i say lol. and prepare to be killed the first night. i am sure mafia won't allow me to live and easily find patterns, etc... the positivie thing is that Ghar is left out. not sure about Ace, he just yearns for this postition. His problem is that he works for public... restates the things and shouts loud. and do not lose Empy too, if he's a detective, you NEED it. if he is a mafia, it will be found out soon and you can lynch him befor the late game, when he becomes crucial for mafia. | ||
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51. araav Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:39 araav wrote:Too bad I did not and currently do not have time for elaborations, etc. i am currently in process of some life changes. w/e. i want to congretulate the town with Ace. this guy came up with a plan, won the role and now we are playing a do-or-die game. Pretty normal, if you ask me, we are on a SC forum, so np with do or die. Too sad though... So why this BG plan is do or die? first of all, presenting this plan or no does not make ANY differnece for the person is he a mafia or not. for a normal game, when mafia gets the mayor role, they are getting a HUGE lead by disabling the double lynches. this is sort of a fuckup for the town. and even if the mayor is lynched the first day, Mafia still posesses a huge lead. Now with this plan... If the mafia gets the role of mayor, not only the town loses the double lynching ability, but plus one of the best members - a detective! On the other side, if the mayor is townie, mafia is in a pretty bad situation compared to the normal flow of the game. So this is really a do or die situation right now. Now i am praying for Ace to be a townie, otherwise he will laugh on us so hard after our day two lynch... Jesus, i don't want even think about it roght now. And wtf Ace? Why did you lynch iNc? Why did you lynch at all? Why randombum didn't pardon the first day lynch??? wtf are you all doing here???? (now, Ace, go on and say "good that we didn't vote for you, you don't have time, etc... to which I say - yes, very good". Or say "how would the town elect the mayor otherwise?". to which i say: "idk, somehow, by contribution (yes, i am referring to my list), by other factors, but not for a do or die strategy...) TL is smart forum, would be bad to score 0:2 against mafiozos p.s. sorry, expressing my frustration before i am dead Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:40 araav wrote: great, in the future pm me with these request, it would take me 2 minutes and if a paramedic happened to save me, thanks and please pm me, you must be sure i am a townie if i was saved. will try to contribute later Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:04 araav wrote:well, would be nice if Ace would tell us everything he knows. Ace, are there detectives you know? And how? Also, who can tell me how exactly does the messaging him the roles helps? What are his actions if he gets role PMs from 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Detectives? Posted in night7/main_page.106 Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 03:51 araav wrote:Ace, your identification plan was: my question is very simple: how do you know if a certain person is a detective at this point? and by how i mean how exactly. 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View my public profile for links to my plan as mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 16:17 araav wrote:Ace, I am a townie. Thank you. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 16:18 araav wrote:Chuiu, get well soon and GL, man! Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 22:04 araav wrote:a question for randombum, are you mayoring with Ace? Do you both share 100% of the information? qrs, yes, it worths. each suspect worths well an investigation. I am all with qurm and qrs, it sucks playing a mindless drone. Ace, even if you do not share with the town all the info, which is fine, you could share with us some of more or less harmless information like - all the detectives are identified and 3 of them are 100% verified. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 19:48 araav wrote:it was hot Alethios, actually what Ace suggests, is not that bad for one day testing. This plan may have a nice side effect too. it worths executing it once. Would be nice to divide the big group to three. And not use Ghar's group for now. just save it for later references. And force all the voters to "vote or else". The voters were more or less active, and the chance they will vote again is really high. Ace, when ready, PM all the group memebers who to vote for for extra insurance. edit: hot, not hat Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 22:41 araav wrote:sb shoot this retarded kid finally Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:41 araav wrote:lots of blues, Ace you gave them these names right? I am guessing mafia listed dinsmab twise in the list and LucasWoJ was protecting him. Also, whoever else was protected, please let us know. They already went after you and failed - so mafia knows your name. Why not town too? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:42 araav wrote:I, too, think the drunk guy must be pointing to Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:46 araav wrote:And the guy saying "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick", may be pointing to one of guys who said that already in this thread about hte Ace's method. Off the top of my head they were: Alethios qrs - always protecting me - thanks araav - me wurm? who else was in this list? Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:03 araav wrote:right forgot it... again :D only suicider could do that. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 23:11 araav wrote: kid, calm down. do you realise the only reason you are not still banned is the game itself? Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:45 araav wrote:Do not make haste with wurm please.... don't be stupid How do you know Shotime got a hit? Because bothe the medic and Shotime said so? That may as well sove the Medic problem as Shotime can be the alcoholic mafioso. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 01:46 araav wrote: Do not waste a lynch, it's currently all we have agains mafia's night kills, wtf?... Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 01:58 araav wrote:the only problem with wurm for me till now is his "GL town" thing btw, the Shotime thing is not clear to me, why on earth would the fucktard like him be protected? Does he have a special role? dunno, it's better to waste a detective check than a lynch ANYWAY. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 16:21 araav wrote:Guys, I kindly ask everybody - please do not use bad words when referring to me - even with "if". Remember - this is a game - a good game thanks to Chuiu, please do not ruin it for us. Also, remmeber the nature of the game for the future. You do not necessarily believe to ideas thrown here by random people, unless you are 100% sure they are townies. Sometimes dumb towneis can ruin the game by really stupid moves. Now, for stupid moves. Throwing in this idea was really stupid of Showtime (or Ace, if he stands after this). if Showtime's a townie: come on - mafia already knows this is false, so whom you are fucking with - with townies? want to lure some dumb mafia into this and find him out? do you really think mafia members would be so dumb? if Showtime's a mafia: this is somewhat logical for a mafia member to distract the town's usual day-flow of smart guys' analyzing the clues, making good points, etc. But still dumb enough. Do you think Ace is stupid to collect the "blues" together? Even if there was 1% chance of haveing a fake blue there that must not happned. <-> (like Tracil did ) overall...... something is not right out here... from one hand it seems that Showtime is green, as the killed mafia member was panicing and Ace brought some info in... form the other hand - what the hell is he doing? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 16:22 araav wrote:Now, i am going to prove I am a green. The plan is this: Ace tells us which of the two small groups (Ace|randombum) will be checked by a detective and I and only I join THAT group with one of my votes i will also vote for Ghar with my other vote. <-> another thing. please remember that Ace is not 100% non-mafia - it's still possible (say 0.1%) non of the detectives have checked him so far in the hope that others will. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 16:29 araav wrote:Guys, the game continues, let's go back to the normal flow please... For now, please just ignore Showtime. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 22:10 araav wrote:what the hell... wtf... this has become an elite game - Ace and his elite vs some mafias. yes, really boring... missing the previous game - and i wasn't even part of it Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:33 araav wrote: have you even bothered to read the previous page? Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:25 araav wrote:lol, was going to reply Lenwe and Fishball, when saw this kid has posted yet again. Lenwe, where the hell did you see me owning up that I even knew about a channel? i was saying this is all a makeup for something that I am not aware of... And to Showtime, kid, comeon, shut up finally. Don't think you are protected, some annoyed mod can ban you for trolling and Chuiu can replace you easily. Stop now. Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 23:45 araav wrote:Jesus! Poll: Ban and replace Showtime? (Vote): Ban and replace (Vote): Give him another chance (Vote): Let him talk his crap Posted in night7/main_page.169 Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:03 araav wrote: as many are sure i am a townie, i would like this be performed against randombum and Ace - both and only you both vote on the same list - the one that will be checked! Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 22:57 araav wrote:randombum - please cast your vote for Ace. We need to make sure about you! I am voting for Ghar and Shotime - will vote in official thread. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:37 araav wrote:wtf... we are screwed... Ace has given so much info to fake-blues (read - mafia) already... that's how they kill our blues during the night Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 18:18 araav wrote:where are detective results, Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 22:19 araav wrote:has randombum voted? edit: i mean in a way to prove he's innocent Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 19:03 araav wrote:do we have anything about randombum, guys? Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 20:01 araav wrote:Empy you will not wake up today... Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 20:01 araav wrote:RIP in advance Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 01 2008 21:06 araav wrote:mafia! mafia! ??? Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 15:04 araav wrote:want some light (please) Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:38 araav wrote:oh my god, two detectives!!! nice going Acehole! Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:54 araav wrote:it wasn't a bad luck - it IS the result of giving the mafia too much information as questions for idintification who is who. got it? we got one mafia member this way - but lost too fucking many blues... Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:55 araav wrote:Now Chuiu, off-line mafia games have something like giving the dead person some last speech. Would be nice to hear the dead detectives... Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 15:34 araav wrote: qrs, you were more attentive to what happened at the beginning... I already answered the accusations "several pages ago" (c). Now, let's analyze the situation and try to understand what really happened with hindsight. it turned out Showtime is a green. so why on earth was he talking about? Why Ace supported him saying "at that moment, when araav entered there were at most 5-6 blues"? Why on earth was Showtime in the "channel of clues"? What really happened? I think these are the questions that Ace can answer only. What I did? I proposed rolechecking wurm and only then lynch him... I proposed to cast my vote for Ace or randombum to check it... still it can be checked coz i voted for Ghar. and Ace must already have the number. the check will be a bit harder, because some mess happened with the voting there... but that mess can still narrow down the list... I also proposed randombum was checked... it was an easy check - he would simply vote for Ace. that's a very easy way to verify him. I explained already how so many blues - especially detectives could get killed. I also proposed to save Empy... I wrote lots of words with explanations and implications why should he be voted for pardoner... still... randombum was elected. now I propose - Ace to tell us EVERY single thing he knows (except the blue names) - the others - follow what Plexa does - this guy analyzes... we have to rely to that only from now on... we can't make any stupid moves anymore. Mafia did a very good job. they removed obstacles - few at a tim - but steadily. so from one point they will have 9 kills a night. we need to reduce this number with every lynch... Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:00 araav wrote: hmmm, should i thank you for "stupid townie" reference? :-/ Showtime was calling me names because I accused his townie behavior as stupid - as it really was. Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:01 araav wrote:where is Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:06 araav wrote:suresh0t seems a real suspect as of now Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:23 araav wrote:reasons from your list - hammer, super shot Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 19:38 araav wrote:w/e he is, he fits under some clues edit: fits, not feets :D Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 20:15 araav wrote:yeah, Plexa, very nice job! Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 20:30 araav wrote:btw, do not wait Ace. He may be somewhat humiliated after these failures, if he's a townie of course. I wonder who of the detectives checked him For the next game I propose adding the ability for the dead people to post one message after they die. Or better - before the day lights - before anyone knows they are dead - they may send their will - any text - to Chuiu. If the person dies Chuiu publishes the dead person's will (in OP or special blog). Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 20:56 araav wrote:errm, because he still may be mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 17:15 araav wrote: I wasn't following recently to the developments. Can sb summarize how these lists came? Especially the relation between the two lists... Is the second list the one derived from the Ghar's list that Ace divided? Will try to catch up later. Btw, if you are correct and two of 4 are certain mafia from the second list, then i propose 4 vigis cooperate with Ace and each take one of those... two mafia for two townies is a very good deal indeed. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 17:28 araav wrote:wow, some people voted for me for the previous lynch... how come? I said 100s of times - the thing with chat room is completely made out by Showtime! An old post where i clearly said it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=3332&topic_id=67925 from page 167 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...hp?currentpage=167&topic_id=67925 Even if somebody entered the room with the name "araav", that wasn't me. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:35 araav wrote: I don't get "confirmed innocent" vs "I'm mainly looking at bumatlarge" part... Ace, can you just simply post ALL of lists and answers from detectives? + giving the name of the detective - if he's dead already. Thanks Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 18:18 araav wrote: let's not waste the checks... Sb posted a very good idea earlier - for the next day let's select the top 1 or 2 - if double lynch - and eventually lynch them as usual then select the list of other top suspects force all top suspects vote for a specific person (for randombum I would suggest)... - noone else should vote - all of them must vote we would have a very concentrated list of mafiosos - and night - go vigis!!! Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:01 araav wrote:hehe, day is coming! http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69303 :D want see some reds soon! and no blues! Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:22 araav wrote:wow... 4 blues Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:44 araav wrote:Now I know people will again bring up that channel issue... I wasn't definitely there, and some more thoughts about it - if the channel was non-pw-ed, then there was no need for a programmer to "hack" it... - if I found that one, why on earth would I enter there with "araav" ??? making my way there and yet - being so stupid to enter with "araav" ??? a free find of mafia for the town ??? this is ridiculous now, Showtime, who brought this up, was a townie. For some reason he was in that channel... Means Ace was trusting him... How? Either a detective checked him and reported or Ace just knew it (cough) Ace also told me that he "araav" indeed entered to the channel. Well, ok, great! So we know for sure "araav" entered there. And that wasn't me. What follows is that it was a mafioso (or a stupid townie - i don't believe this). my explanation is this: The plan of PMing roles to Ace was flawed... Ace was sure wurm is the wrong medic and he trusted the mafia-medic. And the mafia medic got the channel. And then mafia knew many-many blues. Then mafia sent one of them as "araav" to the channel. Why? 1. For a lynch-waste for the town 2. for a confusion in the town... 3. for distracting the town from normal process I am now writing this, means they succeeded in 2-nd and 3-rd points. my explanation 2 is this (do not comment on this): + Show Spoiler + Ace may be a mafia - they killed bodyguards for makeing this even more unlikely. Now, Ace, may be i missed it, but - that medic issue - was it resolved? How? Where is the "bad" medic? Posted in night7/main_page.199 On April 10 2008 16:44 araav wrote:erm, lol, they really brought out that once again Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:32 araav wrote:wow - a cooperating Mayor - I salute you!!! Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 13:59 araav wrote:provided as is - no warranty edit: fixed now + Show Spoiler + as of yesterday 1. ShaLLoW[baY] : 214 2. SoMuchBetter : 13 3. Eti307 : 22 4. HotZhot : 60 5. 6. clazziquai : 29 7. Dr.Dragoon : 17 8. CDRdude : 64 9. So no fek : 1 10. Fen : 2 11. ieatkids5 : 7 12. Wizard : 1 13. 14. imDerek : 15 15. 16. Puosu : 10 17. randombum (Pardoner) : 74 18. 19. ulszz : 6 20. 21. Alethios : 62 22. infinity21 : 0 23. Falcynn : 176 24. Alventenie : 43 25. 26. 27. nemY : 48 28. ZBiR : 37 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY : 2 30. 31. Energies : 19 32. 33. Amber[LighT] : 42 34. RtS)Night[Mare : 87 35. Vharox : 5 36. Unforgiven_ve : 14 37. fgsvsd : 1 38. KF91 : 6 39. Romance_us : 8 40. MasterOfChaos : 23 41. LTT : 43 42. SonuvBob : 47 43. NatsuTerran : 16 44. str : 1 45. smurfingchobo : 15 46. 47. Kuja900 : 12 48. qrs : 187 49. GranDim : 9 50. Artanis[Xp] : 38 51. araav : 71 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM : 26 53. Ace (Mayor) : 480 54. MTF : 99 55. MoRe_mInErAls : 33 56. Camlito : 77 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS : 5 58. Lysithea : 40 59. fanatacist : 34 60. SoleSteeler : 17 61. 62. 63. HeRoS)Pink : 205 64. KorvspaD : 0 65. 66. fusionsdf : 151 67. 0cz3c : 36 68. 69. 70. Bockit : 30 71. GeneralStan : 62 72. Ziel : 20 73. Hollander : 8 74. Supah : 1 75. 76. jtan : 0 77. 78. BWdero : 21 79. AcrossFiveJulys : 11 80. 81. 82. Ninja4ever. : 10 83. 84. JoxxOr : 15 85. ahrara_ : 98 86. 87. Pangolin : 63 88. Naib : 69 89. butidigress : 16 90. ~OpZ~ : 120 91. Scorch : 113 92. Jimtudor : 15 93. spoinka : 12 94. unsoundlogic : 10 95. 96. 97. suresh0t : 47 98. 99. DamageControL : 0 100. omfghi2u2 : 0 101. RowdierBob : 6 102. 103. SpiritoftheTuna : 30 104. AmorVincitOmnia : 0 105. Wysp : 17 106. BuGzlToOnl : 7 107. GrayArea : 7 108. 109. 110. crazie-penguin : 17 111. 112. 113. DTDominion : 2 114. zeks : 13 115. useLess : 27 116. Last Romantic : 32 117. 118. Plexa : 175 119. G.s)NarutO : 37 120. 121. 122. 123. Klive5ive : 26 124. 125. 126. 127. L : 66 128. 129. 130. rpf : 11 Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:18 araav wrote:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?currentpage=2&topic_id=69736 read Ziel's posts - if you keep in mind he might be mafia, it becomes really funny Posted in night7/main_page.242 Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 17:42 araav wrote:woot, nice work, guys!!! Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 16:11 araav wrote:L o L Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 16:18 araav wrote: ahahaha - golden Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 22:58 araav wrote:I vote for Ghar and Showtime!. edit - fixed Showtime's name + Show Spoiler [bumatlarge] + 75. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:08 bumatlarge wrote:SAWEETT! Townies unite! unless Im a mafia! By the way I am a mafia and there are about 153 clues in Chuiu's OP as to why. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:58 bumatlarge wrote:Inc <<<<3333 Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 04:39 bumatlarge wrote:Alright, less posts in this thread = less stuff chuiu and dapper feel forced to look through = quicker starting time. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:24 bumatlarge wrote:BY THE BEARD OF ST. PATTY! We gonna have the Irish mafia come out. Uh oh, i have red hair... Ginger = mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 16:43 bumatlarge wrote:Take your time Chuiu. Quality over punctuality, that's the blizzard way. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:38 bumatlarge wrote:I got a P.S. in randombum's pm. guess what it is? Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:40 bumatlarge wrote:Inb4WOOT Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:47 bumatlarge wrote:I'm all prepped up from wacthing all of DeathNote too. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 15:04 bumatlarge wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:35 bumatlarge wrote:Alright! Let's get this show on the road! Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:50 bumatlarge wrote:I'd look for clues ^^ but im already tired from the wait. Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:05 bumatlarge wrote: But if they read that, then they probably would do the opposite. I think the first posters after the Day are townies. They have to be. If you were chosen as mafia, what would you do? I would PM all my sick pals. I wouldn't post non-sequitor rants. So everyone before me is a townie. ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:16 bumatlarge wrote:I'll be willing to prove my theory by getting lynched. Mafia need to think, townies don't ^_^ List of Townies by BumAtLarge's Law: CDRdude (he was right!) Falcynn More_Minerals Aznvaliance BumAtLarge (subject to change) SonuvBob LTT Plexa (go use your super TL powers to find mafias!) Pangolin Ahara xDark.Carnivalx Chuiu (GASP) Well, just throwing that out there. Good night! Edit: SONUV IS TL GUY TOO?! GGNORE MAFIA! Posted in night7/main_page.020 On March 18 2008 16:42 bumatlarge wrote:I'm voting for Sonuv, he's a townie for sure. Posted in night7/main_page.030 | ||
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75. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:14 bumatlarge wrote:Everyone PM their roles to Dark Carnival: 1)He is a townie (see Bum's Law) 2)He has a good grasp on seemingly solid clues, and unless Stalker proves differently, I think he's right. 3)He seems smart and requires medics! GOGOGO! Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:35 bumatlarge wrote: ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:26 bumatlarge wrote:Well,then lynch me if you want. I'm only a townie and i'm not serving another purpose. My list of townies is correct as far as i can see. CDRdude Falcynn More_Minerals Aznvaliance BumAtLarge (subject to change) SonuvBob LTT Plexa Pangolin Ahara xDark.Carnivalx Chuiu (GASP) If by the end, we find out that none of these are mafia, I won't say i told you so. Because I'm saying it now. BTW, Bodyguard plan seems neato! Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:GANTZ! Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:11 bumatlarge wrote:If CTStalker really doesn't want to be lynched, he'll try to make a defense. If he's mafia, then he'll probably try to assume another role, desuading us from lynching him.......... THAT'S WHEN WE LYNCH HIM! Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:57 bumatlarge wrote: That isn't as easy as it sounds. There are multiple detectives, so if a mafia comes forward saying you are or are not, then we will have to mistrust this detective. I don't want to lose all our detectives even if we take out an even number of mafia as well. Detectives are too valuable. If Empyrean isn't mafia, he's gonna be dead soon, probably along with alot of meds. Either way, Emp you are either an foolish but brave townie, or a inconsiderate genius mafia. Knowing you, It's the latter. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:10 bumatlarge wrote:Oh, just for the record, when somebody dies, and their towny, EVERYONE! should go read their posts. Since they are posts of the utmost sincerity, we can't afford for a mafia to go mangle information in such a large thread where important facts can be missed even by the most vigilant townies. Together we can catch any and all hints! Especially me. Read my stuff after I'm dead <3 HOORAAA! Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 10:38 bumatlarge wrote: Hm, there are no candidates in my list, then, which makes sense, since it's takes time to plan out how you will try to make a good campaign. Ace looks pretty clean, Emp seems a bit risky, but we have a good chance of having a serious advantage over Mafia. In fact, I think I will vote for Emp, because if push comes to shove, we can lynch him. Having a detctive as mayor is so strong, it's so tempting! WTF, Emp if you're mafia, Chuiu is pure evil. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:49 bumatlarge wrote:Unfortunately, if Empyrean isn't mafia, mafia will kill him. And if Mafia won't kill him then townspeople will. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:09 bumatlarge wrote:This is good, if Emp is a townie, Mafia will be reluctant to kill him with the suicider. If he's detective, he could survive and try to prove himself with clues. If h's mafia, he's going nowhere, fast. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:16 bumatlarge wrote:I still think we should vote for Emp. ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 13:03 bumatlarge wrote:CTStalker hasn't said much, but he voted. Also alot of people found the "wolf" clue to link to him in multiple ways. Wouldn't be a big loss if he was townie. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 bumatlarge wrote: No. Fucking. Way. You're right, I bet he's mafia O_o Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:32 bumatlarge wrote:I was gonna say, if Ace picked a mafia out of the hat like that, I bet he would be mafia. In order to maybe prove his worth, the mafia agreed to lynch one of their own, to give a mafia mayor some lee-way when things don't look so good for townies. He should probably vote off someone who voted, but didnt post in thread. A mafia would still vote, in order to stay un-kicked from the game, or at least say "Iabstain from voting" Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:38 bumatlarge wrote: Hell no, if Mayor does that, I would vote to lynch Ace, that's retarded. Lynch someone with no posts but who has voted please. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 bumatlarge wrote: >_> you shouldn't have gone for the inactive, but the lurkers. <_< Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:50 bumatlarge wrote:I'm glad he used the instant lynch. But i would have chosen differently. Chuiu, what are you going to do about inactives? Thy have already affected the outcome of this game. (And wtf Inc? Playin too much SC to at least chek up on Mafia? I bet he didn't even look at his role >_> Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:53 bumatlarge wrote:CTStalker would have been the better lynch. 1) He had at least some clues pointing to him we thought. 2) He hardly posted and didn't defend himself when we accused him. 3) He voted I would do the same if I were mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:14 bumatlarge wrote:Well goodnight, let's wait for night to fall later and discuss crap. lol 69th page ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:53 bumatlarge wrote:Ah, Inactives will get replaced. So, would Chuiu replace people with roles first? Or in order from the list? (or random) In either case, Ace made a slight mistake in voting out Inc, but he couldn't have known who the mad hatter was. So let's not go lynching inactives but lurkers from now on, ok mr. mayor? ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:44 bumatlarge wrote: Not to sound morbid, but the original last 2 lines of that prayer are "And f I die before I wake I pray to God my soul to take" How very appropriate! *Enter Sandman starts playing* Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:01 bumatlarge wrote:So, because no one at all is accusing Ace of being mafia, he's clean. Kinda stupid of mafia t not try and sacrifice at least one of their guys to confuse everyone and reveal a detective or two, no? Maybe we're over estimating them ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:54 bumatlarge wrote: Yes, please look at my posts. And it seems that a townie isn't really safe no matter what he does. Is he just supposed to nod dumbly to everything that everyone says? While i disagree with Showtime's method, I'm not shitstirring, I'm trying to contribute and not lurk. What are the disadvantages to lynching someone who doesn't do anything. And what we gain from lynching a regular poster? A hell of a lot less contributions. But I guess that's what you want, to lessen the clutter of the thread by lynching the active (if maybe too active ^_^) Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:26 bumatlarge wrote:Hm, what is a blue doesn't trust Ace? Would we lynch them even if they are a blue. Maybe a detective is pooling his clues and doesn't want to chance it? Hopefully they all send PMs... Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:36 bumatlarge wrote: The main reason everyone would send their roles is to determine blues. If a blue posted his role in thread, mafia will kill them obviously! By PM, blues can keep identities safe with Ace. They should still wait for a detectives confirmation though, let's wait til morning. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:05 bumatlarge wrote: Do you answer immediately to them or do you wait for day? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:58 bumatlarge wrote: I doubt you would need to waste a DT (kinda funny abbreviations), we could lynch him and not really care if he's a townie cause he isn't doing anything. Unless Ace can tell us otherwise... Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:47 bumatlarge wrote: We have clues pointing to him, he is relatively inactive, but votes. It's better than lynching inactives who might have roles but have no leads on (inc) Who would you suggest? If I get killed, then he's probably trying to defend himself people correctly interpreting clues. If I survive then he might not be. Same goes for herospink as for me. Posted in night7/main_page.085 Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 05:56 bumatlarge wrote: Assuming that Ace is clean and spotless from the housecleaning detectives, we have a good chance of finding a mafia out of all the detectives searching. I'd be surprised if the detectives didn't find one mafia among the people we have been linking to clues. Posted in night7/main_page.090 Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:28 bumatlarge wrote: ... Two drones, same time, generally same post, how weird. HIGH FIVE o/ Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:40 bumatlarge wrote:2 blues... O dear... Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:29 bumatlarge wrote:Snakes and colors. Are there any Pink or Blonde snakes? Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:37 bumatlarge wrote: Prof. Layton does have brown hair, but I would have called me Mr. Hat or something. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:01 bumatlarge wrote:I'll get Mynock's shotgun and keep Ghar close. Just in case (bum) >_> O_O (Ghar) Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 02:23 bumatlarge wrote:Why is Ace remind me of the US government. I mean, land of the free and shit but why is he hiding his plans like that, he's gonna tell us eventually <_< does that constitute as staring and glaring? I'll stop now lol Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:33 bumatlarge wrote:Alright Ace, just tell us quick. Chuiu wouldn't do this, but what if he like had to do something and made night post early? Can you tell us who you think we should vote for? Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:38 bumatlarge wrote:Did Manda pretend to be a detective. Kudos to him then, that takes spunk to do when you're mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:10 bumatlarge wrote:Is it me, or did the vanilla get really boring fast. I'd like to be independent and look at clues and vote for people i think are mafia, but with ace as mayor, and all the blues knowing whos who and working together, I'm fairly bored. Now I honestly want to stir shit, because It's becoming a spectator sport townies, and then voting for who ace tells us too, cause he's basically a guaranteed townie. I wish Emp was mayor, that would have been fun. No offense ace... Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:Heh, we Ace should mark all the blues as suspicious but not proven so the mafia would go for other non-suspicious people. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:57 bumatlarge wrote: EEEXXXXXIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT LIGHT! EEENNNNTTTTEEEEEERRRRR NI-I-I-IIGHT! Edit: I just realized how appropriate this is lol, Oh and the smilies clue should only refer to posts before the clue was made and sigs. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:Present! O my, what a clue O.o Well I can't be both Sidewinder and Mr. Brown, but if a detective could please check me, so I don't get ultra lynched... Edit: *reading clue again* Oh, come now. I don't stink that bad. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:57 bumatlarge wrote:I think mafia screwed themselves when they didn't pose as a detective and accuse Ace of being a mafia when he first became mayor. it would have revealed another detective at least and would have stopped this whole instant win thing. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:06 bumatlarge wrote: Remind me again where I claimed to be mafia? I did not realize putting yourself in Mafia shoes constituted someone as a mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:19 bumatlarge wrote: Alright then, if a detective sent you the info, then it must be true. Right? Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:55 bumatlarge wrote:what exactly happened with araav that could drastically change the game? Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:29 bumatlarge wrote:He had a chatroom... with only blues... and this was safe? I think the only illegal thing is to hack PM's.... Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:47 bumatlarge wrote: Alright, I guess we wait and see what araav has to say. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:04 bumatlarge wrote: Yea, I get the feeling wurm and I are getting lynched on a hunch... Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:40 bumatlarge wrote:I guess my ass off the Benihana stove? Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:44 bumatlarge wrote:86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. <_< >_> blame ace? Edit: Damn quotes rebelling against me. Posted in night7/main_page.172 Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:Can anyone post a list of clues that pointed to Mandalor, so that we know what we are looking for in clues? We must be doing something wrong... and I'm gonna die next. At least I'll survive the night as a supsect!... O vigils, damn. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:21 bumatlarge wrote:Plexa, I'll tell you my role if you tell me what is happening in the morning. I won't tell anyone! Promise! PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ^_^ <3...<4...<5 (look I went to less then 5! You have to tell me now) Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 06:00 bumatlarge wrote: Did Ace confirm that he has been rolechecked and clean? I may seem l'm just trying to save my own ass, but since my alternate ego isn't "in" on what the roles are, did they skip him over since he isn't much of a threat to blues? Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 07:15 bumatlarge wrote:I'm Mr. Lavender. HOW YA IK ME NOW?! Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 02:42 bumatlarge wrote:So... Am I off the hook? Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:44 bumatlarge wrote:I second the Plexa approval. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:02 bumatlarge wrote:Oh, my head... So, TranceStorm is both in the list and connected to the clues? Confirmation Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 07:05 bumatlarge wrote:So, we get the go ahead to vote for whoever we want? Alright, then I'll follow Plexa. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:46 bumatlarge wrote:Yea the only reason this thread had this many pages was because of showtime and shallow (he isnt dead, is he? where he at?) Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 13:17 bumatlarge wrote:Hm, maybe mafia will try to take out someone with such low posts counts? Or they dont care, or trance is innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 05:31 bumatlarge wrote:I have to say, mafia are dispersing there votes very well. Only 1 voted for trance? Makes you think that either the mafia are very inactive, or very clever. Quesy was sidewinder, right? btw all these snake codenames reminds me of the "saviors new mouse topic" Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 02:19 bumatlarge wrote:Im like the only dead green lol, WTF WHO IS LOUIS?! GL townies, plexa looks like he got this in the bag. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:37 bumatlarge wrote:Ugh, am I the only dead townie that wishes they were back in the game? Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:39 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for SonuvBob He isn't a mafia because he posted right after day started. A smart mafia would collect his thoughts. And talk to his buddies. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 10:46 bumatlarge wrote:I change my vote from SonuvBob to Empyrean. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:47 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:35 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for wurm (1) I vote for Ghar (2) Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:30 bumatlarge wrote:I change my 1st vote from Wurm to Abstain. My 2nd vote against Ghar remains. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:07 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for TranceStorm + Show Spoiler [butidigress] + 89. butidigress Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:15 butidigress wrote:I just realized that the mafia had the saboteur position, which can easily prevent Empyrean from being effective while under protection. I don't know what to make of it. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:00 butidigress wrote:I think we're making a big mistake here by not voting for Empyrean. I feel fairly confident he's a DT; I cannot imagine mafia making that kind of bold move. Even with the saboteur position removing his powers while he is being protected, I think we would do well to have someone who is most likely a townie to be up there. Also, why is everyone so confident that Ace and randombum are clean? While Ace's plan is pretty good, that shouldn't guarantee his innocence. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:37 butidigress wrote:Man, that sucks. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:43 butidigress wrote:"to attack the three men ... finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. kau: born 3/31/87 joined tl 3/31/07 name is three letters long awful lot of threes if you ask me... Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:13 butidigress wrote: someone care to explain this logic? i don't get it.. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:01 butidigress wrote:Ace, I don't know what you're thinking on this one. First of all, isn't it possible that two medics protected the same person from the same shot, therefore giving both of them the I protected somebody message? Also, there's barely any evidence at all against wurm. We will definitely have better bets in lynching someone else after day comes again. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:05 butidigress wrote:Hm, I guess you're right Ace. What happens if he turns up blue? That means he did protect his target as he said, which means something still doesn't add up. I guess we'll see as we go along. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:42 butidigress wrote:Hold on, I just thought of something. Why not just have the group of 7 split into two like Ace said, but only perform a DT check on one of those groups? It's pretty obvious that if the check shows no mafia, then it would be the other group that contains the mafia. This way, we save DT ability usage. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:31 butidigress wrote:so when can we find out the results for the dt checks? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 23:16 butidigress wrote:damn, large scale mafia is hard. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 10:14 butidigress wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Like LucasWoJ, I trust both Ace and Empyrean. However, I really don't care which one gets what position, so as of now I'll vote for Empyrean, since Ace seems to have a solid enough voter base. Although some of you are suspicious of Empyrean, I really can't see a member of the mafia making a move as bold as that. He has a great argument; if he isn't lying, then the town would definitely be able to take advantage of a detective having protection. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 10:30 butidigress wrote:I vote for Ghar. Although I think that my Kau find was solid, I'll go with Ghar because that drawing is pretty incriminating. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:13 butidigress wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor. even though it doesn't really matter... whatever haha Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:26 butidigress wrote:I vote for Ghar EDIT: I abstain for my second vote, as I forgot we get another one. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 07:03 butidigress wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 23:55 butidigress wrote:I vote for L and abstain for my second vote. + Show Spoiler [clazziquai] + 6. clazziquai Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:00 clazziquai wrote:Yay looking forward to this Mafia game. More people than ever! :D Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:13 clazziquai wrote:wow 10 more hours..........................CANT WAIT I hope I'm like..mafia Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:26 clazziquai wrote:Alright guys, just got home, got my role, and reading the 30 pages...-0- gonna be long Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:29 clazziquai wrote:Oh thanks Falcynn! Haha should be useful. This time, I am a mere townie :/ But I really want to win this time, (last game was so bad for me, I was an Elder and I didn't really do shit...I want revenge x)) Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 clazziquai wrote:Ace, I don't get it. Why did you lynch someone completely random who never spoke really in the first place? Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote: Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him? Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:27 clazziquai wrote:gg God is HERE Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:41 clazziquai wrote:I suck at interpreting clues (I could barely solve one in Mafia 1, but Fen was mafia, but my clue interpretation wasn't right haha). I am going to sleep so I'll post if I can tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.111 Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:31 clazziquai wrote: Ok, I will vote for Mandalor then as you say, Ace! :D Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:46 clazziquai wrote:Holy crap NICE JOB ACE! Mandalor =] Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 03:55 clazziquai wrote:Can anyone update me...wow my internet was down for two days. Thankssssss Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:28 clazziquai wrote:How many DT role checks do we have left? And I'll vote for wurm Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:39 clazziquai wrote: I'm disappointed as well. I come back and see that Ace really doesn't want to participate anymore because of such a small mistake. We shouldn't give up...come on Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:51 clazziquai wrote: Wow shut up so annoying-__- If there was the role of Village Idiot, maybe that would suit you. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 13:00 clazziquai wrote: i know he's not serious, but he's been saying pointless things that piss me off in the middle of this chaos =/ CANT WAIT FOR DAY! Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 08:33 clazziquai wrote:WOW before I read this, I was happy that I saw the Day Post But LOL -__- Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:24 clazziquai wrote:Another townie AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:54 clazziquai wrote:Fuck..so Trancestrom was a townie? =/ Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 09:31 clazziquai wrote:Finally got to catch up on the thread.. so we lost a Jack? and L is the current top suspect? I will vote for him But I was suspected....-_- wow Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:40 clazziquai wrote: sorry I don't live for Mafia =/ I have a life, you know Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:50 clazziquai wrote:Nice! We're finally on the right track ^^ Great job MTF, but am I still on your suspect list? Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 11:29 clazziquai wrote:Lynch me and see what happens Posted in night7/main_page.255 Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 08:32 clazziquai wrote:MTF I have nothing to post. It seems like you guys accuse me for being mafia and right now you and Plexa have most influence in town. Oh well. That's why I gave up. Won't matter for me, but have fun wasting a lynch on me. Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:58 clazziquai wrote:I vote for Ace for Mayor. I think he'll suit to be a good mayor . Plus the bodyguard plan, although a bit confusing to me, sounds plausible. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:11 clazziquai wrote:I change my vote from Ace to now randombum for mayor Why? I really do think Ace will be a good mayor. However, his plan is going into effect regardless of his position in the election. But his presentation of the plan was a powerful move that mafia could have used to secure the election and snipe the mayor position. randombum being the least likely person to be mafia due to his pre-game campaign would get the best of both worlds. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:01 clazziquai wrote: I simply thought randombum would have a less chance of being mafia... Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 10:35 clazziquai wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 03:21 clazziquai wrote:I abstain my vote. I'm trusting you Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:32 clazziquai wrote:My vote now goes to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:29 clazziquai wrote:i vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 09:32 clazziquai wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:45 clazziquai wrote:I vote for L Down with you, murderer. + Show Spoiler [crazie-penguin] + 110. crazie-penguin Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:29 crazie-penguin wrote:OMG OMG OMG YAY Sign me up, please!!! Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:58 crazie-penguin wrote:omgomgomggomomgomgomgomgomgomgomg Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:51 crazie-penguin wrote:Showtime! who could have been "better," incontrol never really posted and didn't even vote. First lynch is always blind anyways. Plus like others said, he was fairly inactive. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:59 crazie-penguin wrote:I think we need to look into the clues A LOT closer, I was almost convinced myself when people started accusing CTStalker and Ghar and giving out the evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:58 crazie-penguin wrote:...clazzi, I dont think he was serious. Unless my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning or is outdated then I'm sure its just a joke . Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 07:12 crazie-penguin wrote:wow I don't check this thread on for about one day and look at all that's happened. But judging from the voting thread, I'm assuming Ace has commanded everyone to vote Siefu and Evilmonkey? Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:08 crazie-penguin wrote:Okay so after reading through, since i haven't been on too much lately due to school work, I'm a little surprised since I just found out that I am being accused all of a sudden by plexa and MTF. First of all it just says that Brown Snake is just a "strange" looking man. Which is incredibly ambiguous, and how you connect "short" to being strange I have absolutely no clue (i'm assuming this because I don't see short anywhere on Brown Snake's description). I don't know, can't some one in a badly emotional state be also in a bad shape or anyone who's a killer? Also, if "King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up". If he's stepping up to someone I'm pretty sure he won't be short. It's all I have so far, but what more can I say? You seem to be making weird connections. As for the maddened part. Maddened can mean many things , it could mean angry or infuriated or something. I'm assuming anyone who gets knocked down would be pretty mad. I have nothing for the slapped part though. I'm just saying you're making vague descriptions point to something specific. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:17 crazie-penguin wrote:maybe because when someone gets accused of something they want to clear their name? Just a guess. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:51 crazie-penguin wrote:http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69767 Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 12:50 crazie-penguin wrote: I'm coming for you Amber, even from the grave... Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:06 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote for empyrean. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:10 crazie-penguin wrote:I withdraw my vote from Empyrean and give it to randombum as I've been swayed by recent posts in this blog and the Day 1 Thread and Ace seems to already have enough votes. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:49 crazie-penguin wrote:I abstain also Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:40 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote Ghar and wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 30 2008 00:44 crazie-penguin wrote:According to Ace's plan, I will be abstaining from both my votes Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:42 crazie-penguin wrote:For now, i will abstain Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 11:22 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote L + Show Spoiler [d.arkive] + 117. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:05 d.arkive wrote:I would like to sign up please~ Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:55 d.arkive wrote:Wow, Ghar's MS paint really corresponds with the clues >< Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:42 d.arkive wrote:holy crap, that's a lot of blues i guess more text for clues? Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:02 d.arkive wrote:What tuna said. If he is mafia, we're really screwed. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 15:20 d.arkive wrote:Nice to know that Ace still is in the game ^^b Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 23:24 d.arkive wrote:Ugh, just missed voting by a little bit -_-;; I suppose I would have abstained anyway; everyone's clues point every which way. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 10:07 d.arkive wrote:-_- what exactly determines non-obvious clues... And maybe i missed it in these 195 pages, but exactly how is Ace determining innocents and guilties? Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:08 d.arkive wrote:Away you go, with all your gelignites and lilies! Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 10:32 d.arkive wrote:okok, we get signal. Everyone thinks that they're going to die. -_-;; Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:26 d.arkive wrote:Like Michael Bay said, I want things to be AWESOME. and everyone having a role is quite cool. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 11:32 d.arkive wrote:Sigh, I give up on the puzzles. I just want to turn the page upside down and read the answers... Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:03 d.arkive wrote: sigh. Happiness is a prison. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:11 d.arkive wrote:Remember, remember, the Fifth of November. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:49 d.arkive wrote:I vote for Last Romantic Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:12 d.arkive wrote:I vote bumatlarge + Show Spoiler [decafchicken] + 98. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:13 decafchicken wrote:Oh do i need to post here to confirm? Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:18 decafchicken wrote:I bet ace's plan is actually just annoy the mafia members into an outrage at how easy he makes it look for the town, giving themselves away. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 16:06 decafchicken wrote: what about str and ninja? anyways its probably better to use the ones Ace has for sure while we collect clues. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:33 decafchicken wrote: Things that work arent your cup of tea? Rather guess and check? (kill and hope for mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:07 decafchicken wrote: he said he wasnt going to post his shit any more and just run his own show or somthing Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:06 decafchicken wrote:i hereby announce my candidacy for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:00 decafchicken wrote:energies for all the obvious electrical references sureshot for his hammer pic (relates to nails) and he has a sure-shot with the nail throwing? fuck we lost 2 DT T_T There's no way killing 3 dts already was pure luck. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:45 decafchicken wrote:MTF pins down blindalbino to draw suspicion from him. then again it could be completely irrelevant, but thats a lot of drove + window references that match perfectly w/ his pic. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:47 decafchicken wrote:Ah well. It's been good folks. GL with no DT/no jacks T_T;; Sorry about the fuck-up earlier that caused a stir. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 03:47 decafchicken wrote: Agreed. I just fucked up and thought i votechecked someone else and then sent ace the list of that person, even though i meant to votecheck someone else. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 03:54 decafchicken wrote: Not is this only concrete evidence, it's downright divine intervention. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:25 decafchicken wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:49 decafchicken wrote:i vote for VOTE FOR MANDALOR Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:40 decafchicken wrote:i vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 07:08 decafchicken wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 03:53 decafchicken wrote:first vote: evilmonkey second vote: seifu + Show Spoiler [dinmsab] + 13. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:09 dinmsab wrote:Voting for randombum. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:50 dinmsab wrote:omg, for god's sake.. spell my name right... fuck, i died. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:57 dinmsab wrote: I appreaciate your mourning... now go win the game for me, i'll be watching from the heavens. I still have some things so say, so i'll write it in my blog. + Show Spoiler [fanatacist] + 59. fanatacist Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 02:11 fanatacist wrote:I like the new roles added [: Let's get this going! Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:37 fanatacist wrote:I think both Ace and randombum made the right move here. There is no need to excessively judge them - just read Mynock's reasoning on this following page [last post]: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=75&topic_id=67925 Any plain townies upset over this need to realize the inactivity + randomness + lack of a reason to pardon the lynch. Randombum and Ace are in this together right now, why would one try to counter the actions of another at this stage? Inactive players add nothing beneficial even if they are blue name, but if they were mafia it would have undoubtedly benefitted. So I think the risk was well-placed. Any mafia that are getting upset over this are just stupid. Maybe they are putting on an act to be upset, hmm? Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:59 fanatacist wrote: This many people + this much time between days = mass (needless) speculation, for sure. I think we are all just waiting until the next day [: Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:41 fanatacist wrote: It's not just post count. You might become a lock or a nuke soon if you post like this though, especially when the OP asked for no spam. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:39 fanatacist wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:30 fanatacist wrote: You can't say that the Dr. Dragoon vs. Kuja900 voting isn't comical, though xD Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:29 fanatacist wrote: Analysis made by townies can still be very useful. As a pardoner, your role could also be used effectively. The reason we follow Ace isn't just because he is mayor, it's because he has the best plan right now - that doesn't mean that it can't run into complications, or that there aren't things that you or anyone else could do to make it more efficient. If you lean back and kick your shoes off and don't try to be constructive, of course this game won't be fun and will be too easy, given the fine leadership shown by Ace. By the way, I don't mean you in the sense that it's just YOU, randombum. I meant it as a universal "you," if you get what I'm saying. I'm foreign so it's hard for me to explain myself Dx Sorry. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:54 fanatacist wrote:I agree with Ace's decision to lynch or leave wurm to die. Townies that try to separate from the herd just because they want to have "fun" are as useless to the town's cause as the Mafia is. Even if wurm is a medic and even if he made a proper save, not complying with the town's plans that have worked well so far out of selfish reasons is a free radical that isn't needed for the town's victory. People who cause internal strife or oppose the greater good should be removed. On a similar note, I am getting pretty sick of having to sift through pages of 3 people (you know who you are) just spamming inebriated or plain stupid messages to each other, some of them being incriminating or pointedly obscure. Either you work for the town or you work against the town, don't try to be mysterious or stupid just because you feel it makes the game more enjoyable for you - it's selfish, it's foolish, it's not beneficial to anyone. I agree with whoever said that these people should die, regardless of their worth. Their worth is lost in the dozens of shit posts they make that stirr up trouble or misdirection among their allies. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 03:06 fanatacist wrote: I didn't necessarily say that it should be wurm > ghar for lynching, I am just stating that I disagree with people defending him (and other individuals of similar mindset). Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:39 fanatacist wrote: I've seen comments and quotes from people saying "Please kill Showtime!" and the like. There is a difference between something being funny, which is welcome and okay, to a good 5 pages in a row, more than 50% of which were posts adding nothing, made by the same few people. It gets old, fast. Drunken humor only lasts so long. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:57 fanatacist wrote: I'll vote for whom I was assigned to vote, for the greater good of the town. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:13 fanatacist wrote: Why can't everyone just wait until the end of the game so that there wouldn't be a need to post them separately each time someone asks? Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 05:00 fanatacist wrote: And complain about it even though you can still help by providing ideas for the plan, analyzing clues, and in spite of the fact that it works. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:06 fanatacist wrote:So how and when do we find out Suspect #1 and #2, Ace? I'm sure you will have to announce it here, since so many are voting for them, and there is not much anyone can do to prevent the lynchings anyways (except randombum who I doubt will interfere). Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:10 fanatacist wrote:I agree that wurm should be lynched. The point of the game is for the town to unify and cooperate to win. Even if wurm did not want to send his role or follow the plan, he could have done SOMETHING cooperative, being that he IS on the side of town.... Or at least that is what logic would dictate. Since that is not what happened, I feel safe in the assertion that he is either mafia, or at the very least he is detrimental to the unity of the town and should be lynched. As for Showtime!, I am quite curious as well as to why we need him, considering all the noise he makes. He says a lot about various clues, but is never explicit, so I assume he must be reporting directly to Ace. This would actually make sense, as being too correct in his accusations in public could lead to his death in a single night. If that's the case, then all the more power to him, just I wish he would change his mannerisms about it. Another theory I have is that he PRETENDS to be someone important, so that the mafia targets him, while Ace gives him protection, therefore seconding the notion that he SEEMS important, which would misguide the mafia. There is no harm in saying this because the mafia would not know which of these is the truth - but on the other hand, we don't either. Summary: Lynch wurm for insubordination and going against the greater good of the town, save Showtime! because even though he is annoying (to put it nicely), he seems to have contributed already, whether it be due to his role or his pretending to have a role. Either way, Ace does not seem to want him gone - and I trust Ace, who is a confirmed townie and so far a successful mayor. I stated my logic here so that other townies can see my perspective, and perhaps agree, so that we can be more unified and cooperative, and thus more efficient at eliminating mafia scum [: What are your guys' views on this? EDIT: P.S.: Showtime!, as I have stated, I suspect you are of value to the town... Please don't ruin this by being racist, even if it remotely relates to a clue (i.e., saying towelhead to wurm). I am pretty sure people have gotten banned for similar outbursts in the past, and if you are of value, it would be a shame to lose you. As for the poll, I vote to check the clue linking Ghar to the severed head, as Shallow said. I'd also like to see wurm lynched, as stated above. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:18 fanatacist wrote: It's okay, we're 2-1-0 for now, us in favor. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:55 fanatacist wrote: = My response to Shallow. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:02 fanatacist wrote: I quoted it before I saw your post, and since it seemed you were responding to me, I felt it'd be proper to second this. When I posted it, I saw your response, so whatever. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 23:37 fanatacist wrote:A lot of votes are in the wrong place - People, please change your votes now to follow in accordance to the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 16:25 fanatacist wrote:The medic had to go. The green was a learning experience. You can't take anything away from Ace in this turn of events, given the nature of the clues (Ghar) and the circumstances (wurm). We have a lot to work with now due to the plan. Have faith. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 12:45 fanatacist wrote:Let's have a new election? Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:19 fanatacist wrote:Not an official mayor, but Ace can turn over responsibilities and valuable information to a chosen second-in-command because of his absence. He will still be the official mayor and will have to do mayorly things, but other than that... Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:20 fanatacist wrote: So like 90% of the town is under suspicion now right? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:23 fanatacist wrote: I hypothesized this earlier... And he confirmed it... Too late to start realizing things about that now lol. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:41 fanatacist wrote:I vote randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:55 fanatacist wrote:I vote Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:18 fanatacist wrote:I vote Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 03:51 fanatacist wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 04:37 fanatacist wrote:My second vote is for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 23:41 fanatacist wrote:I vote for Ghar. It seems my vote for him was either missed or incorrectly changed - I want this to be my second vote, first being on bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 03:01 fanatacist wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 23:23 fanatacist wrote:Oops. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 02:47 fanatacist wrote: + Show Spoiler [fgsvsd] + 37. fgsvsd Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 11:37 fgsvsd wrote:Holy fuck, so many people signed up already. I'll jump on the bandwagon even though it seems a bit cluttered, oh well. Sign me up! + Show Spoiler [fusionsdf] + 66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:04 fusionsdf wrote:Note: I will be running for mayor regardless of my assignment later on. By announcing it right now, choosing me is less likely to end up with a mafia mayor than someone who runs for mayor after roles are assigned. VOTE FOR ME(When the time comes) Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:20 fusionsdf wrote: because mafia will want to be mayor obviously. so if 1/7 people are mafia, right now, by electing me when my behavior is both known and independant of role, there would be 6/7 chance that Im a townie. After the roles are assigned and mafia start gunning for office, it much more likely that a candidate will be from the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:26 fusionsdf wrote:Also, I think from the tag-team me and plexa did with the last game (obviously I dont have a lot of proof, but we were relatively certain of 5 or 6 mafia by Feb 20, and only had 2 false positives. The mayor should be a person who can think independently, follow clues, is dedicated and able to use the role wisely. As the first person to make a profile list in the last game, along with all the other clue research me and plexa did, I think I make an excellent candidate. I suggest every other person running for office, do the same as I do and announce their intentions now. Everyone who doesn't might be doing it for mafia motives. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:50 fusionsdf wrote: its a smart mafia strategy.....mayor is an extremely valuable position for a mafioso to hold I don't expect them to dodge it twice Once the game starts, you'll have to ask yourself if every candidate is applying to further mafia goals. But anyone who declares themselves known is free from ulterior motives. Plus, I'll wear these cool elky-style sunglasses when I post Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:30 fusionsdf wrote: I expect them to field 1 or 2 candidates. It would be fairly easy for them to subtly influence the vote. 5 coordinated votes, properly timed, could be enough to secure the proper mafia candidate. It would be a huge bonus: the instant lynch, the prospect of mafia-timed double lynches, and would have minimal risk to the mafia as a whole. An optimal strategy would be for the mafia to field a whole bunch of candidates. Through coordination, it would only take 2 or 3 voters to push a candidate from no-name to front runner. It would be subtle, and hard to determine if it had occurred. And it would implicate such a small fraction of the mafia that the signal would effectively be lost in the noise. Even if the mayor came under suspicion, it would be impossible to trace that suspicion back to other mafia amid all the scattered towny votes. In such a system, unless a townie has a cult of personality, he would be unlikely to have more than one vote for him. Further not everyone playing has proved their deductive abilities. It would be worse than useless to pick a mayor with no game sense. My dedication to the last game, and the fact that me and plexa found proper suspects, such as empyrean, zdd and unforgiven almost a month before the mainstream players shows that I would be extremely valuable in interpreting clues. If I'm not mayor, that usefulness will probably lead to my death in the first round. I don't intend to hold back my interpretations no matter the result, but if I can only work off one night of clues before the mafia kills me, then I can't contribute. I can make Liquidia safe again! Posted in night7/main_page.004 Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:28 fusionsdf wrote:90% sure he gets it back Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:29 fusionsdf wrote:hahhahahaha they'll probably use something like http://www.random.org/integers/ Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 14:43 fusionsdf wrote:.... that makes no sense lol Obviously there is a chance any of us could end up being mafia.....but its like a 1/7 chance lol thats a lot better odds than anyone else Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 07:16 fusionsdf wrote: mafia did that last game, and I highly doubt they would do it again for a couple reasons 1) there are more people, so its harder to figure out who the mafia candidate would be if they exist. Because of this, we have absolutely no idea if mafia runs a candidate or not, which means no real risk for mafia running. We just wont know if its happening or not, so they might as well take advantage of that. Getting us to lynch an innocent mayor is probably fun, but has less advantage for them than just securing the spot in the first place, since even a mistrusted townie mayor still gets a free lynch and can still declare double lynch which obviously benefits the town. 2)Again, because of the numbers and the nature of mob mentality, mafia would only have to risk a very small number of votes to tip the vote to their candidate. This assumes they have a candidate. Obviously, since we cant tell if mafia even brought a candidate (which would be the smart choice) or if they were successful in swinging the vote, we cant exactly start suspecting the mayor because of voting patterns. You are basically dealing with signal vs noise. Townies have no unified information, and act basically as a mob.(emotional contagion, herd theory, etc.) Because the mafia are unified and coherent (signal) they can greatly sway the vote. Basically once a few votes start going to a candidate, more votes will follow. Once they get a mafia mayor, he can be subtle to try and mislead the town, or he can simply say screw you guys I'm mafia. Trading one day's lynch and preventing future double lynches still benefits the mafia. (Not that he should, but I'm just trying to show that mafia mayor benefits mafia in every case, even if he gets lynched) 3) There are huge benefits to being mayor. Preventing double lynch is huge, so is the election day lynch. Mafia mayor makes the bodyguards pretty much useless, especially if the pardoner is mafia/lynched. The mayor is really a super detective. They can be obvious about their suspicions without fearing death. So its best not to waste that position on either mafia or people who aren't good at clues/willing to spend a ton of time deciphering clues, making lists, researching etc. A mafia mayor really plays a denial role to one of only two hit-proof roles. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:44 fusionsdf wrote:From: randombum Subject: Mafia Date: 3/18/08 11:37 Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum hmmmmm Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:22 fusionsdf wrote:poor chuiu are the mafia going to kill you again? Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:I am applying as mayor. I will have a post showing my usefulness soon, hopefully some time tonight If you have any doubts about me, I suggest you look at my earlier posts, and the endorsement from plexa Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 05:59 fusionsdf wrote:This is our land. A land of peace and of plenty. A land of harmony and hope. This is our land. Liquidia. These are our people. The workers, the strivers, the builders. These are our people. The builders of our world, struggling, fighting, bleeding, dying. On the streets of our cities and on the far-flung battlefields. Fighting against the mutilation of our hopes and dreams. Who are they? Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:04 fusionsdf wrote:∞Ah, But I am not the one Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:44 fusionsdf wrote:lol @qrs a ha Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:s h a l l o w is a m a f i a Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:59 fusionsdf wrote: I think your suspicions are a good start. don't take a joke the wrong way. Posted in night7/main_page.033 Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:02 fusionsdf wrote:putting myself outside the circle gives me freedom to gather clues a giuliani strategy Posted in night7/main_page.035 Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:25 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.036 Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:04 fusionsdf wrote: Find The pattern Explore the Pattern Learn the pattern (hear the patter?) Posted in night7/main_page.039 | ||
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66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.039 Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:44 fusionsdf wrote: you would have to sacrifice the pardoner and the bodyguards in that event ironically, there roles would be pretty much useless in that case anyways Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:47 fusionsdf wrote: hahaha your response is itself an answer as was the intent Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:50 fusionsdf wrote:any messages can be forgeries I have no interest in spin. It is only necessary for my own self-interest Posted in night7/main_page.042 Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:24 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:39 fusionsdf wrote:any smart mafia will role claim towny also: Paramedics: Dont protect Empyrean. The reason should be obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.061 Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:46 fusionsdf wrote: why would you, since even if you got your way people would expect you to use your detective powers as mayor and you wouldnt have powers Whether you are mafia or townie, paramedics shouldnt watch, and here is why. If you are mafia, you are safe. If you are townie, It is in the mafia interest to keep you alive for as long as possible for two reasons: 1) As long as you are alive, you are suspicious. They might as well force us to waste a lynch. 2) Mafia know you are a towny. They would be better off excluding you, because with random chance, they now have a better chance of killing a special role. If you do die, who cares? At best you are a detective plaing towny for safety - a move which makes you almost useless in that role; at worst you are mafia. again Paramedics should stay away from paramedics for the same reason, if he is a townie, you are better off protecting someone with a random guess, and hope its someone a) targetted by the mafia, b) special non-mafia role so we just lynch detectives until we find out which one is mafia? or do we have to coordinate the detectives somehow, which would tie them up another round? You would have to do a double check from what I see, which might take as long as two seperate nights. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:35 fusionsdf wrote:lynching empyrean is the smartest thing to do at best hes a townie at worst hes mafia in either way he creates confusion as long as he is alive Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 fusionsdf wrote: jokes he hasnt voted so hwe will get dropped anyways Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 fusionsdf wrote:great.... should have lynched empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:03 fusionsdf wrote:so...... we are lynching quiet people to force them to post? Do you realize how useless a strategy that is? We only get one/2 lynches a day....and you want to waste them like that. First, its perfectly possible for mafia to post without seeming suspicious. So by forcing them to post you gain absolutely nothing. Second, its possible for a townie to post suspiciously. By focusing on it, you confuse the town, and potentially waste future lynches. Third, In this case, we knew that empyrean was at best a townie. Going after him offers better odds than lynching inactive posters. This was a very rare situatuion. In most cases, Its better to lynch based on clues Fourth, by lynching based on clues, you narrow the pool of people that clue potentially refers to, and offer yourself the chance to isolate mafia based on clues. I am glad you dont have control of future lynches. The reasoning for this one was flawed. Lynch because of clues, not posting activity. This was a mistake Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote: It doesnt matter what lynching it is its still stupid especially when you have a gift like empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:33 fusionsdf wrote: You obviously dont understand what is going on in this game, so you might as well stop this If you had an argument you would offer it instead of useless sarcasm Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:49 fusionsdf wrote: qrs is correct yes. see: Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:49 fusionsdf wrote: what guessing would they have to do lol? empyrean being alive is a much bigger burden for us than for them Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:04 fusionsdf wrote: I havent read the past 50 pages since Ive been busy with homework Posted in night7/main_page.116 Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:15 fusionsdf wrote: obviosly manda whatever is going to get lynched anyways, so I dont see why you should start getting suspicious of people who want to make their own decisions. its a stupid metric Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:so who am I supposed to vote for? Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 23:42 fusionsdf wrote:poor chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 10:37 fusionsdf wrote:fucking lol. just like itw would have done it Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:35 fusionsdf wrote: bad luck for me how should I prove my innocence? Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:44 fusionsdf wrote:ASCII is Leonidas from Sparta Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 12:05 fusionsdf wrote:Oh, since this developent makes it advantageous for me: Do you have any questions? Why the strange behavior? Why did I do this or that etc? Ask me. I will tell you. I plan to have a huge update out before tonight anyways so I'm not really worried about dying. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 06:58 fusionsdf wrote: 2 reasons. 1, putting myself forward as mayor at the beginning of the game was an extremely high risk move. By doing so, I put myself forward as a leader type, and if I didnt get mayor or pardoner, it was extremely likely I would be high enough on the threat list (especially with the lack of development) that I would die on the first day cycle. As soon as I realised that it was unlikely I would become mayor, it was then the smartest move for me to prevent myself from getting on the list and then gain as much time as possible to gather clues. The initial goal was to post a list after two cycles since that should be enough to create a list, but I've been busy. In order to survive to do that I had to lay low, and make it so other people were more attractive mafia targets. That's why I did the whole thing with shallow and made a whole bunch of nonsense posts. I wanted to come off to both the town and the mafia as a rogue element - not annoying enough to be killed off, but not helpful enough to get killed that way either. but you'll see a post from me tonight :D Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 10:41 fusionsdf wrote:even if it seems obvious, Im the only suspect who is about to provide clues.... it looks like Im safe today, but to the people voting me: I'm the only suspect about to provide lots of clues. Let me go tonight. If what I provide isnt good enough, you can always lynch me next time. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:55 fusionsdf wrote:mafia are more likely to be active and lynch vote, no? shouldnt the list of people who voted be those more likely to have roles (mafia or town)? Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:57 fusionsdf wrote: patience I'll be releasing a mega-post right before next day cycle Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:45 fusionsdf wrote:I dont know, but Im glad if hes mafia, it moves five people into the innocent pool Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:eh? isnt mandalor mr blue? Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:54 fusionsdf wrote:yeah reposting all the dt lists would be awesome Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 08:01 fusionsdf wrote:not trying to post clues or anything, this post is just out of boredom chuiu needs to pick the left side more often he mentions right 13 times, but only 3 times for left Up is used 42 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 5 : [2,3]Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 19 : [2,10]They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Line 31 : [2,16]They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. Line 37 : [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. Line 39 : [2,20]They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 63 : [2,32]They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 105 : [2,53]Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Line 107 : [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 15 : [3,8]Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Line 29 : [3,15]As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 45 : [3,23]He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 67 : [3,34]As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 105 : [3,52]"Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. Line 109 : [3,54]But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 3 : [4,2]They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 19 : [4,10]Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 41 : [4,21]Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. Line 55 : [4,28]He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. Line 73 : [4,37]He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around. Down is mentioned 21 times + Show Spoiler + Line 1 : [1,1]The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Line 77 : [2,39]He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Line 101 : [2,51]He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. Line 19 : [3,10]Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 39 : [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. Line 55 : [3,28]Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 87 : [3,44]In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 99 : [3,49]LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 21 : [4,11]Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 49 : [4,25]He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Line 51 : [4,26]Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. Line 59 : [4,30]Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do. The ground is mentioned 23 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 34 : [1,17]He sprinted to the window to his right and broke through it, knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall. Line 40 : [1,20]Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 85 : [2,43]With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 89 : [2,45]Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Line 97 : [2,49]Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 31 : [3,16]Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Line 59 : [3,30]As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 91 : [3,46]"LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. Line 119 : [3,59]ShadowDrgn lay stunned on the ground and Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. Line 17 : [4,9]"Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Line 33 : [4,17]King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. ------ whereas the sky is never mentioned, neither is heaven, neither are stars, moon is mentioned once [2,2] and sun isnt ever mentioned either. neat. if you want me to search for specific words or phrases, go ahead and post them ============= numbers lol one: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 52 : [1,26]They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. {three other times as a component} two: -9 + Show Spoiler + Line 44 : [1,22]Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Line 23 : [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Line 45 : [2,23]NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 11 : [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. Line 75 : [3,38]He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 107 : [3,53]He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. three: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [4,19]He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. four: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 49 : [2,25]He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. Line 65 : [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Line 75 : [2,38]Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. Line 81 : [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. Line 23 : [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. five: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. six: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. seven: -0 + Show Spoiler + eight: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 16 : [1,8]DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. nine: -0 + Show Spoiler + ten: -0 + Show Spoiler + eleven: -0 + Show Spoiler + twelve: -0 + Show Spoiler + Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:54 fusionsdf wrote:want to know something cool? -ARMY [3,26]JeeJee not yet ||armed|| himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the ||armory.|| [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies ||assault.|| [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier ||assaulting|| his house. [2,37]No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ||ready to fight an army if one would present itself.|| [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men ||intercepted|| them. [4,24]Kau assumed he had ||encroached on the wrong territory|| as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. [2,58]Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he ||motioned everyone to retreat.|| =AMBUSH [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. [3,9]Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. =DEFENSE DEFENDED [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, ||defended him|| and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. =SURRENDER [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote:also Main Entry: bay Part of Speech: noun 1 Definition: water Synonyms: anchorage, arm, back harbor, basin, bayou, bight, cove, estuary, fiord, firth, gulf, harbor, inlet, lagoon, loch, mouth, narrows, sound, strait ---- Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Line 65 : [4,33]An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! strait through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it. --- funny how chuiu keeps making that typo huh? --- Line 99 : [2,50]Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. Quote : We are the Swarm, and we are becoming much, much more...for the final metamorphosis has only. Just. Begun. Art.ShaLLoW -- shallow? hmm.... low? ground? --- Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote: army = general stan? Posted in night7/main_page.196 Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:26 fusionsdf wrote:but thats not how it worked last game last game, almost every line had a clue of some sort, and some lines had 2 clues. so how do you explain lines like: "[4,24]Kau assumed he had ||encroached on the wrong territory|| as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own." It doesnt mention any of those 20 people, so is it a useless sentence? Why was it included? Posted in night7/main_page.196 Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 06:43 fusionsdf wrote:I hope I got killed Posted in night7/main_page.202 Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:49 fusionsdf wrote:this whole number thing seems like a pretty fucking big leap to make Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:15 fusionsdf wrote: 13 townies with roles = dead 14 regular townies = dead First Round: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~78/110 = 71% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~32/110 = 29% (Ace killed a blue first night T_T): odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~78/109 = 72% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~31/109 = 28% After 2nd day(one of our vigis killed a dt, gj): odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~74/103 = 72% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~29/103 = 28% After 3rd day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~70/96 = 73% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~26/96 = 27% After 4th day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~67/90 = 74% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~23/90 = 25% After 5th day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~63/82 = 77% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~19/82 = 23% Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:05 fusionsdf wrote:All of these seem like long shots once again, Im going to suggest general stan is mafia Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:01 fusionsdf wrote:One of the resons Im suspecting shallow (among others) is: Which means that everyone on that list has a ~27% chance of being mafia how should we interpret the lines that dont mention mafia members? and how do we deal with the repeat of unnecessary adjectives, like strait and gauged obviously they arent bullet proof, but with the patterns we are following right now, we might as well look at everything. Clues are going to repeat. Therefore, we should look for things that repeat. That has been my method. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:22 fusionsdf wrote:L is the 12th letter its a stupid clue to follow anyways, cause you might as well just suspect wizard, since he is 12th in the player list. The reason Im looking at unnecessary words so intensely, is a) chuiu hasnt confirmed that every word in a sentence containing a mafia member is linked to that mafia member. Obviously, I agree that if it describes mr blonde as tall, then we should link tall to mr blonde. If on the other hand, it says Mr. blonde's victim ran down the alley where he ran into a wall, we shouldnt link running into walls with mr blond. so how do we know whether running into walls is a clue, or just a story element? We look for it to repeat. If people keep running headfirst into walls over and over again, it becomes fairly obvious that chuiu isnt very imaginative, or that running into walls is a hint. And if that hint isnt always linked to mr blonde, we cant just ignore all the other instances because of an assumption chuiu hasnt confirmed. 2) Look at Chuiu's wrap up from the first game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...pic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091 You'll see that clues are fucking dense. Like every sentence, sometimes twice a sentence. for example: That sentence didnt mention any mafia member, yet it hid a clue. Look at: ONE Mafia is mentioned in this line, but there are TWO clues. This does not agree with the assumption regarding this game, that in a line mentioning a mafia member, all clues correlate to that specific member. Look at an example: The 3:00 AM was unnecessary. Why was it included? As a way to include a clue. In the same way, we should look at every single sentence for unnecessary words, and every paragraph for unecessary sentences. When they start to repeat, we have a good chance that its a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:34 fusionsdf wrote: Further, since this was a single lynch, we know that these 10 did not vote for anyone else. In other words there are 10 mafia members who voted for mandalor, and another 10 that didnt vote for mandalor in that lynching. 3 of the ten that didnt vote for mandalor are dead: mandalor, Queasy, d.arkive That means that of the 17 mafia remaining, 10 are on that list, and only 7 are not which means a 10/37 of mafia in the list. 27% chance of mafia and a 7/63 chance of mafia when not on that list 10% chance of mafia (63 = #of townies (83) + #of Mafia (17) - #of people on the list(37)) If I made an error, please correct. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:44 fusionsdf wrote: depends on whether chuiu is familiar with deathnote or not. If he is, there are a ton of clues he could use. Or, he could think of roman numerals and say L = 50 or he could talk about L = lambda and relate it to physics or half life (which he has, since we have physicist clues) or, if we chose to go even more unlikely and exotic: Used as a shield pattern by the Spartan army; it stood for Lakedaimon, the name of the region. It could stand for Left. it could relate to Big L http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_L or computers so we cant just assume which clue chuiu will use. We have to look for clues to repeat, and we have to see which suspect has the widest body of clues pointed against them. That way if we misinterpret one clue, we might still correctly interpret another and get a kill. If you look at the last mafia game, just blindly following lone long-shot clues led the town nowhere. I'm not saying L isnt mafia (he is on the mandalor list), but we dont have strong enough evidence, and should only go after him if we have no one with stronger clues linked to them. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:46 fusionsdf wrote:hmm sorry shallow the potential clues against you goes down a bit (but youre still on the mandalor list) Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:59 fusionsdf wrote:Also, I have some basic notes here: http://massmirror.com/a9d17696f32ee9c48e9f48e04c361419.html many of these (maybe even most of these) lead nowhere. I havent edited for probability, and this hasnt been updated since the 8th or 9th. But it does contain summaries. It contains Day 1,2,3,4: Formatted clues from all games, includes [day,line] marking for easier reference and searching. Remaining names: A list of all the players profiles, image descriptions, quotes birth-dates etc. Also contains synonyms for their names, potential words that could link to them etc, for easier searching and clue linking. Clues Sorted: A listing of repeated adjectives and other words in the dialogues that could be potential clues. As mentioned before, take it with a grain of salt. Attack Methods: List of all attack methods. If attacking is a clue, it should be used a lot, and therefore would be easy to see in the list. Note that as of now, this is just a listing, I have not derived clues from it. Char List: List of all lines directly mentioning individual mafia members. Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange etc. Match: Contains DT lists trimmed of all dead players. Ignore the extra stuff, they were things I was looking at at the very beginning. {The dialogues mention a "white van" [3,44], and MTF's profile has a picture containing a white van, Pink was a tentative link to Mr. Pink} Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote: almost like taunting us. At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote: Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake. Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote: araav + irc Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 11:59 fusionsdf wrote: no, because you guys are misinterpreting wat scorch said. Lets start from the beginning For the Ace and Ghar DT lists, these 3 show up both times and could be potential mafia imDerek Evilmonkey Alventenie Whereas these occur once (and could potentially be mafia: useLess aZnvaLiaNce fusionsdf For the record, only chezinu is dead of the last 4. so that part is bullshit. now lets assign odds. First look at ghar. one of those is mafia leaving us with everyone on that list having a 1/5 chance of being mafia. so: useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) Alventenie(1/5G) imDerek(1/5G) Evilmonkey.(1/5G) For the Ace List: Each person on that list has 1/4 chance. This leaves us with the following odds: In descending order: Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A) imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A) Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) fusionsdf(1/4A) useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) (1/5) +(1/4) is 9/20, but Im not sure thats the best way to express the relationship. Just from those two lists, you can see statistically Alventenie, imDerek and Evilmonkey are more likely suspects. Now, if Alventenie, imDerek or Evilmonkey are mafia, we can confirm everyone else is innocent. Likewise, if all three of those are innocent, NOTE: ALL THREE, then one of useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, and I am automatically mafia. But all three of those people would have to be innocent. Luckily, I am in the unique position where I know I am not mafia, and can therefore add useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) to my innocent list. (which sucks, cause they were pretty high up on my suspect list. TL;DR version: If fusionsdf is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) are innocent, and one of useLess(1/5G) or aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are mafia If useLess(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are innocent and fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and useLess(1/5G) are innocent, fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If useLess(1/5G), aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G), or Alventenie(1/5G) is mafia, everyone else is innocent. _________________________ Keep in mind that none of us are in the mandalor list, so the odds of any of us being mafia is about 1/10. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:04 fusionsdf wrote: I think regardless of what Ace says, the odds of mafia getting this lucky with kills.....well its really fucking low. So obviously a leak exists somewhere. Im not going to call for araav to be lynched because we are divided enough as far as targets go right now anyways, but it seems to me that either araav is mafia, or Ace is mafia. (Or there is some other leak we arent aware of, like a mafia making it through Ace's filter system) If we run out of clues or dont have any leads, it would probably be best to follow the mandalor list and assume a role-leak in order to have good odds. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:48 fusionsdf wrote: Sorry plexa, but I have no idea how you can push something that shaky you basically have 12 = mafia L = 12 which is pretty flawed first of all, its not 12, since you are willfully ignoring daggers to further a theory. Second, the 12 could equally apply to wizard, or hey shallow[bay] has 12 characters in his name! Lets lynch him instead! Third, we have way better fucking clues than this. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:55 fusionsdf wrote:yeah, but that grin applies equally to unforgiven who has as a quote, and hotzhot: Quote : I only smile in the darK so its still not very strong Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:06 fusionsdf wrote:keep in mind, that even with the odds I gave above, that doesnt include the odds from the mandalor lists. None of us are in the mandalo lists, so you are effectively chasing after 7 mafia hiding among 63 townie positions, instead of the 10 mafia hiding in only 37 townies among the mandalor list. If you dont have any strong clues, youre better off choosing someone from the mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:13 fusionsdf wrote: -SMILEY SMILEY [2,11]He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. GRIN [4,7]Enigma ||grinned|| back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:59 fusionsdf wrote: lol and yet he half-panicked and shot yogurt in the face Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:to me, the fact that he a) got a lucky kick b) got a lucky shot on yogurt means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:03 fusionsdf wrote: and those are the kinds of quotes Im pointing to. Not a single person here can say that "Solemn but seeing a promising future" isnt a clue. Things like that are what we should be looking at Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:07 fusionsdf wrote: how so? Its not like shooting someone in the face on a lucky shot is valiant You are starting with suspects, and trying to link clues to them. And thats a mistake. and luck is not a filler. If you think it is, I highly suggest you look at the game one wrap up Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:09 fusionsdf wrote: no its not I'll fucking sig bet you at the end of the game chuiu will reveal it and its going to read out "Solemn(name1) but seeing a promising future(name2)" Those are clues and traits we should look for, no matter which particular mafia it links too, instead of following half baked theories Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:13 fusionsdf wrote: Yeah and it just happens to link eddie with luck twice and we have spare sentences like: [1,2]Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their ||lives hanged on the balance.|| and you want to throw it away for a valiant thing thats contradicted by your own quote. I really like how you try to argue panicking and shooting someone is valiant. No. Fucking. Sense. Just so you can steer it to suspects youve already chosen, when you have less than a 5% of finding a mafia among those 6. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:19 fusionsdf wrote:could you explain this a little bit more? I see five medic actions, which looks correct and 11 mafia actions (when they should only have 8) Is that the problem? What does it indicate? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:22 fusionsdf wrote: he half-panicked and not full-panicked so now he is valiant? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:23 fusionsdf wrote: meeting, especially face to face eye to eye and that sort of thing shows up A LOT So if you can link this to someone its huge. Unfortunately, unless you have more, thats not a huge link Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:27 fusionsdf wrote: shit. Just a scenario: so it looks like perhaps at the start of the game a medic was afk, and a mafia claimed his role? Do the medics or jack in question have access to the list of town roles? More importantly Were any of those three in the chatroom/knew about the chatroom when araav invaded? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:33 fusionsdf wrote: I've been selfish to prevent getting killed by mafia after a failed presidential campaign, and as such have been unable to sway the town to vote for a specific person. I admire your detective skills, obviously it took both of us to do so well last game. But I think by looking for suspects before looking for clues, your making a mistake. And while statistics arent everything, the first three guys that appear on both lists have a 50% chance of being mafia out of all of us, I have a 25% chance the other 2 have a 20% chance. but that masks the fact that there are only 1 maybe 2 mafia in this group. The mandalor list contains many more mafia. However, if you want to lynch someone from the list (I'm being selfish here) You should lynch either Useless or asian valiance, since knowing either of their alliances will give you concrete proof of the allegiance of the other 5. If useLess(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are innocent and fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and useLess(1/5G) are innocent, fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If either of those 2 are mafia, then so am I. If either one of them are innocent, then so am I. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:40 fusionsdf wrote: It seems unlikely that araav could sneak in without a mole inside. Perhaps lying medic + jack? but that would be an extremely unlikely compromise of the filter system. We established earlier that it was smartest for mafia to mostly claim townie (still an advantage to town) but it was a disadvantage for all mafia to claim townie (since you could verify all townie roles, and by claiming a few special roles, they slowly sacrifice members to create confusion) Mandalor, I think proved that they were trying to claim special roles. Is it possible that two were successful? It seems with the ratio we are seeing (14 green, 13 blue) that there almost must be a mole with access to at least a partial role list. If you can determine who is a potential mole that would have access to the role lists (or at least would know which dead blues were blue) then we could stop the problem. We started out with a strong system, but moles inside the filter is like a leak in a boat. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:42 fusionsdf wrote: keep in mind that red moon could also relate to lunatic terrifying omen could relate to religion (there are quite a few religious clues I think, but I dont have them ordered) Posted in night7/main_page.210 Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:47 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, what are the odds araav is mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:29 fusionsdf wrote: EVERYONE: I reccomend you first vote: evilmonkey second vote: seifu Even though I normally disagree with plexa, I think this is a sound decision. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:11 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, you still have one of your votes on qrs and the other on seifu Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 23:58 fusionsdf wrote:Its extraneous words, so I consider it a clue, not sure if plexa does havent been able to relate it to anything though Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:09 fusionsdf wrote:Nice work MTF Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote:also, nice work on the evilmonkey guys :D Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:13 fusionsdf wrote: AznValiance is now officially innocent with the death of evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:36 fusionsdf wrote:From: New104 Subject: Re: Detective Ability Date: 4/2/08 03:13 1. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3? old message: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler are all confirmed innocent ------------- uh-oh Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 03:59 fusionsdf wrote: it was one of the early DT list checks. New 104 asked chuiu how many mafia were on that list, and chuiu apparently said 0. New104 is dead, so we know he wasnt mafia, so was the error by chuiu, by ace? In any case, for now I am not assuming anyone on that list is innocent Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:43 fusionsdf wrote: I wasnt talking about that list: I was talking about another one. Now I just need to figure out where I got it. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:44 fusionsdf wrote: That list was supposed to have 0 innocents, and had d.arkive. For that reason, I am not trusting it right now. i.e., that list is from the false jack Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:49 fusionsdf wrote:You are innocent because of a different list opz | ||
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66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 07:06 fusionsdf wrote: Ace, just brininging up this old post. We know wurm was a paramedic. It seems to me that the medic who disagreed with him is false. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 07:16 fusionsdf wrote:Also, Im going back through the old posts, and people were saying mandalor didnt have any clues. He did. Martial. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 09:20 fusionsdf wrote:Oh I think I get it Posted in night7/main_page.218 Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote: we dont know. There are two camps. One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia. The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:25 fusionsdf wrote:Ease shows up a ton I really think anything linked to that is solid Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:48 fusionsdf wrote: And a fourth camp that says they are not mutually exclusive :D Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 03:25 fusionsdf wrote:In case anyone cares, my suspect list is General Stan RtS)Night[Mare ieatkids5 ShaLLoW[baY] Romance_us suresh0t MidnightGladius Last Romantic LostYourSKills MTF unforgiven_ve SpiritoftheTuna Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 05:30 fusionsdf wrote: top is more certain And I think they are all in the mandalor list as well Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:25 fusionsdf wrote:and of course, its french for candy apple Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:33 fusionsdf wrote: spend your time reading my mafia blog! http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69426 Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:27 fusionsdf wrote:oh holy shit I agree with this most solid thing right now IMO Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:12 fusionsdf wrote:I suggest that even if midnight gladius comes up green, we lynch both him and blind albino and then base our trust of MTF on the result of both lynchings. I doubt he is mafia, and if he is and wants to continue throwing away fellow mafia to preserve his life (unlikely) then its still worth it for us. if both turn out green, it looks very bad, but with a clue that solid, I dont think its very likely. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:14 fusionsdf wrote:hahahaha nice catch... pretty big slip up lol Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:22 fusionsdf wrote:[3,44]In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 01:46 fusionsdf wrote:Yeah chuiu, dont worry about it, just tell me who dies, names of all the mafia, and I will try to help :D Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 05:08 fusionsdf wrote:ahhhhhh! hockey games, and almost day in mafia and no one is giving me games on iccup Im about to go crazy Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:27 fusionsdf wrote:hmm I didnt know shallow was suspicious about both me and plexa Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:10 fusionsdf wrote:interesting.... Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:12 fusionsdf wrote:carnival gunshots car alarm fire alarm beach music wtf Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:02 fusionsdf wrote:lol Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:03 fusionsdf wrote:and they got 5/8 kills, which means the only wasted 3 on medics/veterans pretty lame Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 17 2008 00:13 fusionsdf wrote: hahaha If you think tat half is suspicious, look at the other half "he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. " Armory? really? Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:28 fusionsdf wrote:lol why is more_minerals voting for me when I'm confirmed innocent Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:35 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, might as well stop arguing L is dying either way If he's mafia, hes just trying to trick you into giving up some information probably. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:42 fusionsdf wrote:Also, mafia got in 6/8 hits Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:How come people miraculously check on the thread for the first time in a week right when they become suspects? Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote:too bad its not double lynch I'm starting to believe this is strong too Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 02:40 fusionsdf wrote:I am fairly certain that L is enigma Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 04:37 fusionsdf wrote:LOL at BlindAlbino went from : to credit to http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=69736 Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 08:11 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:51 fusionsdf wrote:and we risk martial clues being linked to mandalor as well Posted in night7/main_page.242 Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:28 fusionsdf wrote: BlindAlbino made the same claims I think its one of the few times the mafia made the mistake of uniting, and one of the few points where I would use psychology to further clues. Otherwise, the mafia have been smart enough to diversify to prevent such things. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 03:03 fusionsdf wrote:agree with scorch pretty much the same reasons I had him on my list Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:56 fusionsdf wrote:you missed pace and waved him down Posted in night7/main_page.245 Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 02:04 fusionsdf wrote:methinks your associate is chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 14:36 fusionsdf wrote:We should put all our medics on notepad Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:21 fusionsdf wrote: I reccomend 19-ulszz 34-RtS)Night[Mare(2) 27-nemY(2) I think nightmare is stronger than nemy Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:50 fusionsdf wrote:nothing really to analyze weve gone over the current clues pretty much as much as possible crazie-penguin wasnt in any of the lists, so we cant add any innocents We just have to wait for ace to declare double lynch and wait for tomorrow Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:44 fusionsdf wrote: or you know, since its a note with someones name on it who dies because of the note almost like a deathnote Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:52 fusionsdf wrote:L should give us a name if he turns up townie after being lynched, then we will look at his clue Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 08:47 fusionsdf wrote:if you want to get off the list, analyze clues Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 08:06 fusionsdf wrote:Ace can't be mafia I looked into this, but it simply is not possible, and even raising it at this point is counter-productive. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:03 fusionsdf wrote:DAPPERDAN Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 15:38 fusionsdf wrote: #1 makes sense if L is mafia and the mafia is still trying to save him. They need to know who he is protecting, so they can adjust the number of hits. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 10:01 fusionsdf wrote:have they even sent in their list yet? Posted in night7/main_page.252 Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 10:34 fusionsdf wrote:I vote for Plexa Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:58 fusionsdf wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:34 fusionsdf wrote: vote for wurm and Ghar hopefully I was supposed to vote for them :D Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:16 fusionsdf wrote:I change my vote to Ace and abstain Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:00 fusionsdf wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 05:48 fusionsdf wrote:1st vote for EvilMonkey 2nd vote for Seifu Edit: changed Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 06:28 fusionsdf wrote:me vote crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [goldenkrnboi] + 20. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:58 goldenkrnboi wrote:...... nvm. Posted in night7/main_page.003 Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:wheeeeeee Posted in night7/main_page.017 Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:26 goldenkrnboi wrote: 63. HeRoS)Pink 95. OneBlueAugust it's too early to tell and it seems a bit too obvious, but let's just keep an eye on these two Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:34 goldenkrnboi wrote:what if the pardoner is mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.044 Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:40 goldenkrnboi wrote:.____. well, can't really blame him. true, he should have gone for lurkerish type of people, but whatever. all we can do now is just wait for morning to come. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:04 goldenkrnboi wrote: Although I agree that the clue is too vague, chuiu specifically says that he avoids doing intentional red herrings. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:50 goldenkrnboi wrote: don't forget that last time, the votes and the discussion were on the same thread. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:26 goldenkrnboi wrote:god damn. now i know how all you people that died on the first day feel. =/ good luck townies! and give me a better role next time chuiu! Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:34 goldenkrnboi wrote:although i don't get why mafia decided to target me.... i really didn't contribute that much this game. o.o oops. didn't see the new rule. this will be my last post in the thread. i promise. (: Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:31 goldenkrnboi wrote: i do too =/ but quiet you fool. we're dead. here. grab a seat and a drink. maybe we should invite the four blues that just died. =/ Posted in night7/main_page.242 Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:11 goldenkrnboi wrote:looooooooool so.. uh... worship the car? (... ok. i'll stop posting now.) Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 09:58 goldenkrnboi wrote:I vote for Ace + Show Spoiler [iNfuNdiBuLuM] + 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 12:09 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I know, and I'm so excited that I keep checking back hoping the game has started. It sucks because i've been recovering from wrist surgery this week and haven't had much to do, so this would be like the most exciting thing on my agenda Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:07 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ok, I just read like 20+ pages of this stuff. How is Empyrean getting this many votes? As many has said before me his roleclaiming really puts the town on the spot, and we are forced to either vote for him or protect him. A DT will probably even investigate Empyrean to confirm this, wasting another ability. Really though Ace and Empyrean have run away with the vote count, which is understandable regarding the former. But I can't help but feel that someone like randombum, who has so far said nothing brash and reckless, is better suited for the position as Pardoner. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Keep in mind we also have Jacks, that's 2 more DT's when needed. The more I think about it, Jack is a very very powerful role. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: detective checks Ace, and then PM's Ace if ace is green/blue. so silence from detectives indicates that ace is not a mafia. from there ace builds the network, as he knows who the DT's are and so they can work through him without speaking in the open. If Ace is mafia (which would be awful for the town), detective has to speak up so ace can be lynched. then we are down a detective and a mayor, and in a tough spot indeed. if the mafia are roleclaiming a detective, ace will know since there will be 5 detectives PMing him, unless a detective is inactive. i think that's the plan, If I misunderstood something please someone correct me Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:incontrol... really? i guess he is confrontational, but just watch him be a blue -_- Posted in night7/main_page.065 Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: In his defense, you aren't offering much of an argument either; you didn't even explain your post. Was qrs correct in interpreting what you meant? I have a hard time seeing what sort of gift Empyrean is (besides to the mafia, perhaps, as I for one do not believe he is guaranteed green), but it's possible that I'm miunderstanding something here. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:13 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I think I'm going to go watch Reservoir Dogs. I'll get to see a classic and even understand these code names better Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Just as an aside, I'm fairly positive bomber can't kill a detective like that. Medics, yes, but they shouldnt be protecting Ace anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well, now we know one person who was targeted that didn't die. this wasn't a very smart post of you to make IMO... it really seems out of character for you. it also seems to follow the trend that the mafia seem to be targeting active, thoughtful posters. although neax and goldenkrnboi are exceptions, perhaps they were killed to throw us off? i'm going to bed... will catch up on clues with you guys tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:30 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ok, well then. If Mandalor is up to the chopping block, then so be it. gg no re! i'll do my top clues/suspects, like ace asked before: 1. Ghar, obviously, because of the picture and his signature. 2. 44-str. im assuming str = strength? this could have something to do with the streetfight. also his sig is "no units = no power," and the power to the electronics in the house was cut off. The streetfight could also be connected to Hittegods signature, "This street violence, pure self defiance." The electronics jamming could also point to Energies, who is Australian (just like Taipan Snake). 3. what he said . 4. Eddie = LostYourSkills. other people have pointed this out, specifically the "lucky" connection betwen his sig and Eddie. I'm not totally sure about guys like Heros)Pink or French_Toast, but I've got no issue with offing them if they keep being disruptive. Heros)Pink is still a possibility, albeit an obvious one, for Mr. Pink, though. Also, did we ever decide anything about Empyrean? Posted in night7/main_page.119 Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:56 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: surely they would never expect your cunning plan now how long until day post? 24 hrs? Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: that is def odd. i think fusionsdf also did the same thing, but he said it was only because he didn't have time to read the thread, which of course may or may not be true. it would make sense for some mafia to hide in the abstain list to spread their numbers, right? it also exempts them from ace's vote dividing plan, but i'm not sure they would have expected anything like that, and really just abstained to keep mafia count in mandalor's vote lower. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:27 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I resent that. I will defend my American microbreweries (and Sam Adams) until the bitter end! Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:holy shit, three blues time to read this Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:57 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Was ShadowDrgn a vigi kill? I don't have Max anywhere as one of the mafia code names. Also i think the lawn darts are a clue to something... it's such an unusual way to die e: forgot "as" Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 03:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i'm pretty sure this was beyond his control. i would bet that mafia knew who they were hitting was blue (or at least called empyrean's bluff). i have no idea about new104, if you check the vote threads he voted once but i dont recall ever seeing a post by him. it's either a very lucky guess, or something is amiss (which do you think is more likely?). what we should focus on now are the clues, as with only 1 dt and a jack remaining, the clues will be our strongest hope to catch any mafiasos quickly. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 03:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ace: the bumatlarge/randombum clues were from the mafia 'Sidewinder' iirc. I thought we figured out that he was Queasy who was killed? If true, this would mean that the bums are innocent, or at least not linked to that clue maybe i didn't read what you are saying correctly though, and are just talking about the list and not those clues? im confused Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:34 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:so i think we should reconstruct the hitlist then 1. bloodycobbler 2. aznvaliance 3. decafchicken 4-8. ???, possibly more decafchickens. if mafia really did know that decaf was the jack, then it wouldn't unreasonable for them to stack some extra hits on him, in case he had been protected. so veterans or any protected people should report to Ace if they took any hits last night, this way we get a better idea of the missing spots on the list. Anyway, now L is very likely to be killed by either group. i also hope bloodycobbler did not have any kills remaining :\ Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: If anyone else who was hit this night and lived (a veteran or protected) has reported back to you, we can be for sure to fill in the missing spots on the list as hits on decaf, right? barring the scenario of an inactive vet getting hit, I suppose. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 01:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:only 1 blue today. maybe the mafia are running run out of information? vote patterns of the dead, hopefully i didnt miss any (pls correct me if i did): if i leave a blank, that person did not vote or abstain that day. + Show Spoiler + Naruto: Day1: randombum Day2: Day3: Day4: d.arkive Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L + Show Spoiler + fusionsdf Day1: Plexa Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ace Day4: Ace Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler + useLess Day1: Ace Day2: Ghar Day3: Day4: [Abstain] Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler + klive5ive Day1: araav Day2: [Abstain] Day3: smurfingchobo Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6: + Show Spoiler + Falcynn Day1: Ace Day2: Mandalor Day3: wurm Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6: + Show Spoiler + Joxxor Day1: Ace Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ghar , bumatlarge Day4: Abstain Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L to me it looks like they are targetting mostly people who did not vote on mandalor's list (Falcynn is the exception here). but the people they targeted are still semi-active voters in general. unless one of these persons had 2 hits on them [g.s)Naruto, perhaps] we are still missing a target. ofc Ace most likely knows this already if it was a veteran or protected person that got hit. i think they killed falcynn bcause he was very active early in the game but then he stopped posting it seems, so they killed him before he became active again. i am surprised mtf and plexa are alive, though Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 14:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for randombum Ace is far in the lead, and that's a good thing. But Empyrean in the Pardoner position worries me to no end. By voting for randombum, I hope to oust Empyrean from the seat of power which he potentially holds. on Empyrean, briefly: 1. his roleclaiming puts the town on the spot to make a decision, and we also cannot verify this roleclaim for the time being. this is the biggest worry i have. 2. it makes him a target for mafia and their saboteur, basically it's free information for them. 3. ace doesn't like his ideas, we could have another FS/Tracil snafu. 4. a detective might have to waste a role check on Empyrean due to his claims, losing even more for the town. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 01:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I abstain until we get the word from ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 10:33 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:i change my abstain to mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 05:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:My first vote remains on Ghar Second to Showtime! Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:08 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [ieatkids5] + 11. ieatkids5 Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:54 ieatkids5 wrote:I abstain for now; wanna hear Ace's plan. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:22 ieatkids5 wrote:I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 18:22 ieatkids5 wrote:My first vote goes to Ghar. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:42 ieatkids5 wrote:I abstain. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 07:13 ieatkids5 wrote:I vote for EvilMonkey and Siefu. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:20 ieatkids5 wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [imDerek] + 14. imDerek Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:13 imDerek wrote:woot this is gonna be fun Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:58 imDerek wrote:sigh......... Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:03 imDerek wrote:yayy that means I'm innocent Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:57 imDerek wrote:knew L was mafia since day 1 Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:52 imDerek wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 07:19 imDerek wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:54 imDerek wrote:I vote for Ace he told me to do it Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 08:27 imDerek wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 02:56 imDerek wrote:I vote for L with both of my votes. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:35 imDerek wrote:I will change one of my votes to Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 16:10 imDerek wrote:okay change my vote from L to siefu so now it is evilmonkey and siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 09:32 imDerek wrote:Voting for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 12:13 imDerek wrote:I vote for L and suresh0t + Show Spoiler [nemY] + 27. nemY Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:51 nemY wrote: I VOTE FOR FUNSIONSDF to be lynched right now for starting his mayoral campaign before the game has even started. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 00:25 nemY wrote: Guys... lynch this mofo. He makes too much sense!!! Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:13 nemY wrote:If you're a townie pm me and let's discuss the game in secret haha Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:45 nemY wrote:but not his alias lol ;P Two slots open up I reckon? Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:10 nemY wrote:So I see we're on the road to killing Empyrean. Karma is a bitch... so is band wagoning lololol. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:14 nemY wrote:More like: Ace Mayor Randombum Pardoner Empyrean soon to be dead Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:21 nemY wrote: You should investigate yourself and report back to us with your findings lol! Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:22 nemY wrote: You accuse me yet again... guys I think Empyrean is mafia! Posted in night7/main_page.067 Posted in night7/main_page.068 Posted in night7/main_page.068 Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:34 nemY wrote:Hey. I'm a townie. No joke here folks. Posted in night7/main_page.079 Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:37 nemY wrote: Really? Because you think there's a foolproof method of winning mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:41 nemY wrote: Well I don't want to die, so just thought I'd clarify that for everyone to see that I am in fact a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:43 nemY wrote:Go hit the bottle. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:23 nemY wrote:Some ppl's characters stand out more than others Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 nemY wrote:oh wtf mafia hax Posted in night7/main_page.092 Posted in night7/main_page.103 Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 05:42 nemY wrote:Who am I suppose to vote for again? Sorry I haven't been following the game much at all this round Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:Fusion's clue's seem too obvious, yet at the same time the way he defends himself seems iffy to me, not sure what to think of that =/ Snake Charmer looks like it could be MidnightGladius, but then again that also seems too obvious. Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched ! Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:19 nemY wrote:Good Job Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 15:43 nemY wrote: I just wanna suspect you so I can avenge myself for suspecting you last game. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:22 nemY wrote:Mafia seem to be gunning for Ace... and our vig hits are rofl Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 17:22 nemY wrote:I don't know what you're talking about, but I think you should do it. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:09 nemY wrote:Guys, I'm mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:09 nemY wrote:Just kidding. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:44 nemY wrote:Awesome Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:05 nemY wrote: It's a song. Regardless, I don't see the connection. Nice try though. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wznxfa4lIEg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wznxfa4lIEg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Song Lyrics + Show Spoiler + I don't know why I let you go You said you'd wait I said I'd hope you would We talked 'til late until we walked away What's meant to be will be the same And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now Driving round and round until its dawn To look for you in rooms we used to go I held you back, I had to set you free But now I know what's meant to be And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now Posted in night7/main_page.222 Posted in night7/main_page.223 Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 01:43 nemY wrote:While I like your passion for the mafia finding, I think your methods are bordering on the absurd. Go take a nap or something Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 13:53 nemY wrote:Clear me of suspicion yet? I'm confused... how did the Jack go Vig and hit a medic? Shouldn't Ace have stopped this?!? MidnightGladius seemed "Gharish" in that there were multiple obvious clues relating to him... hindsight 20/20. Posted in night7/main_page.234 Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote:The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/ Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:36 nemY wrote: Well I don't want to blindly take everything you say as fact now do I? Although, I have to give credit when it's due, I think you've been spot on for the most part. I'm nowhere near the cunning puzzle decipherer that you are, but it's not too much of a stretch to believe that at least one of the "puzzle solvers" (I'll use that term to avoid using the term "detective") is working on the inside. With insider information that only a few people know are privy to, can you blame me for being worked up a bit? One thing to think about in regards to the King Brown Snake being crazie-penguin King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. Penguins shouldn't be able to physically grab someone should they? Not trying to defend him and it's possible Chuiu unintentionally thought of that but... something seems fishy eh? That being said the evidence is mostly stacked in favor of crazie-penguin and his defense is... laughable to say the least. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:47 nemY wrote: A penguin grabbing both of someone's legs with his beak though? I realize that I'll probably be suspect #1 if I turn out to be wrong in defending crazie-penguin, but do you really think your explanation is plausible? Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 13:08 nemY wrote:Well, I didn't much expect my analysis to hold much water among the elite "puzzle solvers" such as yourself or Plexa. Later on I'll try to see if I can scrounge up anything. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 08:42 nemY wrote: Remove me please? Unless you have some super evidence that incriminates me. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:22 nemY wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:36 nemY wrote:MTF fuck you i'ma be gone this weekend but if i die suspet bugzltonnlz and L w/e i'm drunk peace Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 08:09 nemY wrote:I'm going to stop trying to defend myself here and in any future rounds. I'll work on clue analysis instead, but first need to catchup on the game and its facts Posted in night7/main_page.251 Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 12:57 nemY wrote:#1 seems really gay #2 seems unlikely, cuz uhh no offense but neither seemed that intelligent ;P #3 is possible Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:26 nemY wrote:Ok, Copperhead's a nerd for sure. That should make some of this easier... Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 10:33 nemY wrote:Sweet Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:51 nemY wrote:This sucks. Ppl gonna try n lynch me =/ Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 16:50 nemY wrote:This is all I got so far as possible suspects. Bare in mind, I tried to completely disregard everything MTF and Plexa have brought up as far as information/suspects, because I find it good to take a fresh look at things. That being said, I still have doubts for the one possible suspect, because there are a few things that don't quite fit. Fanatacist as Joe Pros -has thumbs up pic in his profile -From wiki: Fanaticism is an emotion of being filled with excessive, uncritical zeal, particularly for an extreme religious or political cause, or with an obsessive enthusiasm for a pastime or hobby. According to philosopher George Santayana, "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim"[1]; according to Winston Churchill, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". Very strict standards and little tolerance. The difference between a fan and a fanatic is that while both have an overwhelming liking or interest in a given subject, behaviour of a fanatic will be viewed as violating prevailing social norms, while that of a fan will not violate those norms (although is usually considered unusual).[2] A fanatic differs from a crank in that the latter term is typically associated with a position or opinion which is so far from the norm as to appear ludicrous and/or provably wrong, while the subject of the fanatic's obsession may well be "normal", with only the scale of involvement being abnormally disproportionate. -Compare that to the things Joe says and does "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!" "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". -and Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind Joe has been incredibly supportive of his cause (of course the mafia would be right?), but to the point where he is picking up the slack of his teammates to complete the missions. Cons -I could find nothing from his "Public Profile" that really ties him into the game -He might already be cleared by "X" list... (damn near impossible to search for the lists etc... hopefully someone can help me out here) Lynching Patterns -Day 2 Mandalor -Day 3 bumatlarge, Ghar (2) -Day 4 Abstain -Day 5 Missed Vote as evident by.... -Day 6 No Vote -Day 7 L, Ulszz (2) -Conclusion I can't really determine if he's a concrete suspect al la Plexa, MTF and the now deceased fusionsdf, but I still think it's good to throw something new out there. Criticisms are welcome. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 00:51 nemY wrote:According to fusion's Trancestorm list, unsoundlogic can't be mafia, because L is confirmed mafia and there's only one mafia noted in that list. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 01:08 nemY wrote:Can someone put up a list of dead mafia aliases or at least what we expect are the dead mafia aliases? Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 09:46 nemY wrote:To be fair L put up a good fight. Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 03:06 nemY wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:48 nemY wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:02 nemY wrote:I vote for wurm I vote for Showtime Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:38 nemY wrote:Nooooooooooo Posted in night7/vote4_page.005 On April 07 2008 15:18 nemY wrote:Wait your previous count wasn't the last one? Fuck. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 16:01 nemY wrote:I'm so excited even though the Day post hasn't been posted, I vote for Bugzltoonl Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 05:20 nemY wrote:I vote L I vote ulszz + Show Spoiler [qrs] + 48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:48 qrs wrote: You're assuming that a higher percentage of Mafia than of townies will run for mayor, which is not necessarily true, and wasn't, in the last game. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:57 qrs wrote:What do you expect?--be precise. That one mafioso will run for Mayor? Two? All of them? I agree with you that it's a smart strategy to have a Mafia candidate. It's not necessarily smart for the Mafia to have multiple candidates--in fact, I think that's a bad idea for a number of reasons. Townies will not have the same compunctions about multiple candidates. If a smaller fraction of the Mafia than of the townies runs for Mayor, then you've given us a reason not to vote for you. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:00 qrs wrote: You appear to be #25. Posted in night7/main_page.003 Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:25 qrs wrote:Seems to me that linking to each day/night post in the OP is effectively just as good. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 14:38 qrs wrote:OK, so far fusion, caller, and Empyrean have all said that they will run for mayor no matter what. That means that if they end up mafioso, the Mafia practically has to put them up for election, otherwise it will be clear that they are Mafia (why else wouldn't they run). IOW, if the Mafia puts up, say, two candidates, and any of these three are in the Mafia, he will be one of the two candidates. Something to keep in mind. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 15:23 qrs wrote:No. You keep saying that, but it's groundless. You're assuming that the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of its people for mayor than the town will, but there is no reason to think that that is the case. 1) Last game, when Chuiu closed the vote, 7/57 townies were candidates. 0/14 mafia were candidates. (link). That worked out fine for them, by the way. 2) It doesn't make sense for the Mafia to put up more than a couple of candidates: a) The more people they put up, the harder it is to influence the vote for any one of them. b) The more people they put up for election, the more people fingers can be pointed at down the line. Townies, on the other hand, don't have to worry about these things. 3) You don't seem to realize that your reasoning cuts both ways: Sure, if you're right, and the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the town, the odds favor voting for you, but if you're wrong, and the town will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the Mafia, the odds favor voting for someone other than you. 4) In any case, none of that is what I was saying in my above post. I said this: on that 1/7 chance that you are Mafia, you've locked yourself into being the Mafia candidate. That makes it slightly more likely, that between you and another candidate, you are the Mafioso. For argument's sake, take two people A and B. Assume the Mafia has at most one candidate. A has declared his candidacy beforehand. If neither is Mafia, that is that. If A is Mafia (1/7 chance), A is the Mafia candidate. If B is Mafia and A is not (~6/49 chance), B is the Mafia candidate. If both are Mafia (~1/49), A is the Mafia candidate, because he's already locked himself in. So everything else being equal, it is more likely that A is the Mafia's candidate. You are A. You will probably not be Mafia (like any other given person), but everything else being equal, you are slightly more likely to be a Mafia candidate than someone else who is running. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:02 qrs wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not, but that's not what fusion was saying. He was saying that the odds were better that he would be innocent than any other candidate; hence my post explaining why I think his reasoning there is flawed. You say that the whole notion of trying to pick an innocent mayor is nonsense...I have to say I'm a dubious about that. Surely a good mafioso could use the mayoral position to his advantage. If nothing else--even if we lynched him, we wouldn't have a mayor, and that's a disadvantage itself. Besides, it's not that easy to co-ordinate detectives when we don't know who is one. What if all the detectives investigated the mayor the first night--that would be a waste of detection, wouldn't it? As for your final point: "What those 3 are saying is that they think they are SMART enough to lead the town" (the implication being that everyone else is not?) OK, if that argument works for you, fine. I find it somewhat lacking. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:06 qrs wrote: The point is: they have said they are running. They have no reason to change that, unless they answer to someone else. | ||
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48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:10 qrs wrote: Good, you agree with me. fusionsdf was the one who was saying that there were odds, based on certain assumptions of his. I pointed out that under different assumptions, the odds would point in the other direction. Honestly, I don't think that there's a really strong basis for either set of assumptions. Actually, it's not. Think about it. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:16 qrs wrote: Yeah, that was basically my point. I didn't mean that there is any reason for the Mafia to make someone withdraw their candidacy; only that if there was a reason, they couldn't do it without looking suspicious. All I was saying was: assuming that 1) the Mafia will not cancel someone's candidacy, and 2) the Mafia does not want to put up more than X number of candidates, then 3) a candidate who had locked himself into running beforehand would have slightly higher odds of being Mafia than a candidate who hadn't. Look, I'm willing to drop the subject: it's only a slight difference. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:19 qrs wrote:Fine, fine. I wasn't the one who brought up odds in the first place. They probably won't be the main factor in anyone's vote, but they could be a factor between two otherwise equal candidates. I can see your point that they don't matter that much in the overall picture. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:22 qrs wrote: Heh, a lot of cross-posting going on here. All right, your point is taken too, ahrara. There may be legitimate reasons to change your mind about running, and that undermines the conclusion I wanted to draw. Still, if someone said he was running and then changed his mind, I would make a note of it. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:26 qrs wrote:lol, isn't that the point of the game? anyway, it's late here on the east coast: good night Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 22:47 qrs wrote: It's not really worth getting into again, but my assumption was that a player's deciding to run beforehand would have an influence on the Mafia's decisions afterward (if that player was assigned to be Mafia). IOW, not that there is an increase in the chance of him being Mafia, but that there is a decrease in the chance of other Mafia running. If you don't agree, OK. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:28 qrs wrote: Well, keeping track of the profiles, etc. does benefit us, but more to the point, he bothered to do it. If he was Mafia, that would be a questionable move: who knows how long it would take for us to get the information together otherwise? Therefore I think that araav's using his programming skills to help the town is an indication that he is a towny. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:34 qrs wrote:All of this is irrelevant. The detectives can investigate the mayor whoever he turns out to be. It doesn't matter whether you call it part of your platform. If you are campaigning for mayor, tell us what you will do. How will you use double lynches, for instance? Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:37 qrs wrote: He's not guaranteed to become mayor. You're right, it doesn't prove he's a towny--we can play the double-feint game forever--but it's still something. At the end of the day, the Mafia doesn't want the list up, and if they can get away with no one posting it, they would prefer that. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:06 qrs wrote: Now, that sounds like a good plan. Let me go you one better (unless this is what you meant): after the bodyguards are confirmed, let the mayor release one of their names publically. If it's a lie, the other bodyguards can call it. Now we have a guaranteed towny and all the detectives, etc. can PM their roles to him. In turn, he can forward them to the other bodyguards, so that even if the Mafia kills him, there will still be townies who know the important roles and can co-ordinate. I'll consider switching my vote to you, but it doesn't matter that much. We can follow your plan whether or not you are the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:53 qrs wrote: That's the main reason I voted for him (although my impression is that Ghar also wants to conserve double lynches). All things being equal, sure it's better to lynch the Mafia early on, but the most important thing is to use our lynches well, as we have a limited supply of them. That means not using double lynches before we have suspects (and if the last game shows anything, there will be suspects later on). Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:35 qrs wrote:Let's worry less about who becomes mayor (since we have very little to go on at this time) and more on what we want the mayor to do. These decisions are for the town to make-- if we can reach a consensus, the mayor should follow our lead. So far, Ace's bodyguard plan sounds like our best shot at getting the most information on our side with the least cost. Ghar's "detective" propostion has a high cost: we blow half of our detectives' most important ability on the first night. What do we gain for losing this? We know whether or not our mayor is Mafia. But this is not even such valuable information! If he is elected already, there is nothing we can do about losing the double lynches. THE "DETECTIVE PLAN" IS NOT WORTH IT. Instead, we should move ahead with the bodyguard plan at top speed. As soon as the mayor is elected, he sends out PMs to the bodyguards. They confirm with each other. As soon as they have confirmed, one of them (say, the first alphabetically) reveals himself to the public. Everyone with roles sends them to him, and he passes the information on to the other bodyguards. All of this needs to be done before the first night. If we move fast enough, we can go ahead and use the detectives like Ghar wants, but only use one of them. If for some reason we do not move fast enough, we have wasted a single night. Still better than wasting 3/8 of our detectives' yes/no questions. Does anyone disagree that we should follow the bodyguard plan ASAP? Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:39 qrs wrote:The most important thing we can do, IMHO, is co-ordinate. We have multiple special roles, and we can't afford to have them duplicate their efforts. That's why we need to find a confirmed towny as early as possible, and I think the bodyguard plan is the best way we know of to do that. My version involves outing one bodyguard, but that's a small price to pay for the ability to co-ordinate. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:44 qrs wrote: Let's discuss what we have now. Like I said, who becomes mayor is less important than what he does. Ace, do you (or anyone else) disagree with me that the best thing to do with the bodyguards is reveal one and let him find out everyone's role? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:51 qrs wrote:Because the bodyguards are the only people that we know to be innocent. How do we find out whether the mayor is Mafia short of wasting half our detectives' yes/no questions? Once one bodyguard has all the information, he can PM it to the others, who are not known. By the second day, ONE detective can check the mayor, and if he is innocent, he can become the spokesman. Besides, the one bodyguard can be protected (or fake-protected) by medics. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:56 qrs wrote:Since the leading candidates disagree with me, I will cast my hat into the ring: I am running for mayor. Why am I running? To implement the bodyguard plan with revealing a single bodyguard. Why do that? To coordinate our forces and save our special powers as much as possible. How will you know I'm not Mafia? A single detective will confirm it. A vote for me is a vote for this plan, plain and simple. There's no other reason that I'm running. If any of the current leaders endorse it, I'll be happy to withdraw from the race and cede any votes I get to them. Edit: re Ghar's post above mine, to clarify my proposition: Before the detectives use their powers, I hope to have them organized, so that they do not duplicate their efforts (same goes for medics, etc.) I don't want the detectives to work alone--on the contrary, I want them to work with the one towny they can trust: the bodyguard. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:38 qrs wrote:OK, reiterating my platform and trying to sum things up. Sorry if this is redundant: 1. Why I am running for mayor I support Ace's bodyguard plan, and all credit to him, but I don't think he is taking it far enough. I want there to be an immediate roleclaim by a single bodyguard (after we verify that no one is being tricky) in order to coordinate everyone's efforts. Since as far as I have seen, no other candidate advocates this, I am running for mayor. If you support my version of the bodyguard plan, vote for me. 2. What I will do as mayor 1. Immediately after taking office I will PM each of the bodyguards with the names of the other bodyguards. They in turn will PM each other with the same information. 2. I will wait a few hours for someone to object. (If I am Mafia and trying to be tricky, one of the bodyguards will object here. If a bodyguard objects, either he or I is Mafia, and all bets are off until the town determines which the case is. If I am a towny, nothing will happen unless a mafioso objects; again, things will have to be put on hold until we determine whether the mayor or the objector is Mafia. [In point of fact, I am a towny.] If no one objects, we can proceed under the assumption that everyone on my list is a legitimate bodyguard.) All of the above is Ace's plan. The following steps are where I differ and why I am running. 3. I will announce the name of a single bodyguard. Alternately, we could agree that the bodyguard with the first name, alphabetically (or a different criterion) announces himself. In any case, we will now have a guaranteed towny to whom everyone can tell their secrets. 4. Everyone with a role PMs the Bodyguard. He passes the information on to the other bodyguards (but not the mayor, yet.) If anyone is being tricky, the bodyguard will know. 5. Assuming that the Mafia does not interfere with this part, the bodyguard will give instructions to a single detective to investigate me. The other detectives can use their roles in other ways. The bodyguard should co-ordinate this. 6. Once I am cleared, I can become the official spokesman for the innocent townies. 3. Why this plan is our best shot It allows us to coordinate from the beginning. Without coordination, there is a high likelihood that we will waste our powers of detection, protection, etc. Coordination is the single most important thing we can do. If the Mafia interfere by making false claims, it slows us down, but also gives us a lead on who is Mafia. With access to all of the detectives, the towny in charge will soon figure out who is lying. The game will proceed with one less mafioso. 4. Objections? Well, we're revealing a bodyguard. Easy solution, though: let the medics protect him for a night. They have no one better to protect, and the Mafia have no one better to target. If the Mafia kill him anyway, they have wasted a lot of their kills in overcoming the medics. If they do not, we have wasted at best a handful of lucky protections, but we have gained the ability to coordinate, which will save us much more in the long run. If anyone has other objections, please state them. I don't care whether I'm mayor (except that I know I'm a towny)--I care that the mayor follows this plan. Discuss? Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:15 qrs wrote: The problem is: the pardoner role is not so useful to the town, but it is rather useful to the Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:20 qrs wrote: What are you saying? That the pardoner can never use his role? And what do you mean "If I'm mayor". I was saying why it would not be good for the town if you were pardoner and Mafia. Read the post I was responding to. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:22 qrs wrote:How would the town know that the person he pardoned was Mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:34 qrs wrote:Can't anyone respond to this post of mine? I don't especially want to be mayor, but I do think that this is the plan the mayor should follow. No one seems to be advocating it or even talking about it. Doesn't anyone agree that coordination from the beginning is the best thing for us? Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:40 qrs wrote: They do know that they are bodyguards: it's a special role like any other. They get a special PM. As for your second point, a) the medics can protect him (unless the Mafia decide to waste most of their kills on one person) and b) even if he dies, he will pass on the information first, so it won't be wasted. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:44 qrs wrote: If more detectives report than really are in-game, then the liar has to be outed first. Have each "detective" investigate something and see who gives the wrong answer. Costs the town one night, but the mafioso dies as well. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:51 qrs wrote: How? This is what I keep asking. We can't coordinate unless the detectives can all trust someone. They can only trust someone if they know he is towny. That means either: we waste 3/8 of the valuable yes/no questions, or the mayor reveals a bodyguard. Ace has said he does not want to reveal a bodyguard immediately, so how will he be able to coordinate the detectives? Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:58 qrs wrote: The problem with that in a nutshell is that you are forcing all the detectives to use one of their two "is-he-Mafia" questions. (If one does not, how do we know that all of them will not?) Surely it's better to save those questions for when we can use them better, and out a single bodyguard (who can be protected or fake-protected). Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:22 qrs wrote: It's a question of supply and demand. They are valuable because they can only be used twice in a game. The "how many voted for" question can be used every night. They don't need to be expended at all (except for one, to check the mayor). If a mafia-member claims to be detective, he can be found out by all the detectives asking a "how many voted for" question. Everyone, this is where Ace differs from me. I think we should preserve our "Is he Mafia" questions and risk outing one bodyguard. Ace thinks we should not out any bodyguards and rely on the detectives to prove the mayor innocent, instead wasting 3/8 of the "is he Mafia" questions and possibly a night (if it takes a night for detectives to get the answer). Read my original post for what I think the mayor should do. Vote for me or post in the thread here if you support that proposal. I won't push this issue any more: I've done my best to convince you all, and if I haven't done so, posting more probably won't help. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:33 qrs wrote: That part of it was covered by Ace's original post: The mayor PMs all of the bodyguards the names of all the bodyguards and announces that he has done so. If a real bodyguard hasn't gotten this PM he announces, and we know that something is wrong. If no one says anything, that means that all the real bodyguards have gotten PMs, and the mayor cannot sneak a Mafia member into the list. (This assumes that we will know the total number of bodyguards, which we should.) Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:04 qrs wrote: Hmm, this seems to be a flaw in the plan. Edit: @ Ace: He's saying that every bodyguard would get a PM. Their PM would list Mafia members as bodyguards. Each bodyguard's PM would list (the same) fake bodyguards as their colleagues. None of the bodyguards would know the difference. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:08 qrs wrote:Ace, he DID find a hole in it: please address it. All the bodyguards receive PMs. None of them receive the names of their true colleagues. None of them know the difference. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:11 qrs wrote: You guys aren't understanding Kau's point. The real bodyguards would ALL get PMs from the mafioso mayor. The PMs would be lies, but they would all get them. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:59 qrs wrote: Or even this (Call the bodyguards A-G and the mafia 1-4): A's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 B's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 C's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 D's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 E's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 F's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 G's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 Only 4 mafia used in that scenario. The bodyguards will never know. EDIT: looks like I missed a lot of posts while typing that. Will read them now. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:04 qrs wrote:Yes, if E dies by lynching, but that's a big if. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:11 qrs wrote: Sure it is. Why would a vigilante hit a random townie? If anything it's more likely that a vigilante or lynch might pick off one of the 4 mafia, but it's hardly guaranteed. The detectives are a different story. By sacrificing a detective, we will have definite knowledge, but that goes back to Ghar's plan: all the detectives will need to check the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:16 qrs wrote:Much as I hate to admit it, I believe my plan is flawed. As per Kau's post, a Mafia can identify himself as a bodyguard, and all the bodyguards will believe he is telling the truth. The Bodyguard plan is not failsafe after all. Unless someone comes up with something new, we will have to waste some detective power as Ghar has been saying. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:28 qrs wrote:Well, yeah; in fact, once we all know the Mayor is innocent, everyone with a role can and should PM him. I had thought that the bodyguard plan was a way to improve on that, but it seems that it is not after all. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:35 qrs wrote:When I said detective power, I didn't mean just the one detective, but the other 3 wasting one of their "is-he-mafia" questions. But if there's no better way, it's still definitely worth it. Re your scenario, presumably the Mafia could buy days for their mayor at the rate of one mafioso per day. I don't see more than one detective speaking up at a time--that would be very dangerous for the real detectives. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:40 qrs wrote:I don't think it's clever at all. Even if the pardoner pardons a mafioso it may have been accidental; on the other hand, if he pardons an honest man, we waste a vigilante's kill, and lose the guy anyway. And a smart mafioso will pardon an honest man, knowing this, and still be able to pardon the next mafioso who is up for trial. Basically, the plan sucks (sorry Falcynn, but it's true). Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:46 qrs wrote:So don't laugh. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:09 qrs wrote: QFT. You have said some things that made sense, Ace, but you have also sounded fairly patronizing in many of your posts. At the end of the day, you haven't actually contributed that much more than anyone else. (I was taken by the bodyguard idea when you posted it, but Kau pointed out the flaw in it [as a standalone method].) Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:26 qrs wrote:I disagree. If Empyrean hadn't revealed himself, he might have gotten medic protection. They would all die with him when he was blown up--there's no better use for a suicide bomber. Meanwhile, not much to say about the mayoral elections except if no detective doesn't reveal Ace as Mafia after a reasonable amount of time, everyone with a role should PM it to Ace. Not just detectives: vigilantes, hatters, jacks, medics. Coordination is important to avoid duplication of efforts. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 13:01 qrs wrote: At best he's a townie sounds right to me. But I agree with Yogurt: lynch someone who hasn't said a word. Reason: lying low benefits the Mafia if they can do it. If we lynch the quiet people (when there's no better suspect), we encourage people to speak, which can only be good in the long run. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 qrs wrote:Reason? Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:34 qrs wrote:I don't think you can take credit for the idea: Tracil was pushing it from the beginning of the first game. But I agree that it's a good way to lynch when there is very little to go on. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 qrs wrote:LOL. Maybe it wasn't such a great plan after all. There's no way to tell if he really was inactive. The game hadn't really started. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 qrs wrote: There is one thing that he could have done: Lynch a known townie (like Empyrean). 100% odds of killing a plain townie vs. ~16% odds of hitting a Mafia and ~20% odds of hitting a special role. Maybe that would have been a better way to play it, in retrospect. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:49 qrs wrote: You really don't know that. @Kau, see my post above for who he could have lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 qrs wrote:Look, you can't call someone inactive for not posting in the thread the first day. Nothing had happened: virtually no clues, no kills. Not much reason for activity. True he didn't vote, but maybe he didn't care who the mayor was. TBH, it doesn't matter that much who the mayor is as long as he is not Mafia, and he plays remotely reasonably. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:54 qrs wrote: If he's lying, he's either Mafia, or a very shady towny. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:56 qrs wrote: Maybe you're right. Chuiu didn't make the rules clear on that point. Chuiu, if you're reading, could you clarify? What do you do if someone misses a vote? Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:05 qrs wrote: I think we have the explanation, guys. Nothing more to talk about. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:12 qrs wrote:Showtime!, have you seen this thread yet? It might be a better locale for your posting spree. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:18 qrs wrote: Yes, someone did have a better idea: Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:21 qrs wrote:Shallow, we should get one thing clear: you're the crapstirrer. You did it all last game, you're doing it again this game. (Not that it bothers me, but he who accuses...) Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:29 qrs wrote:I believe his story about being drunk because it makes the most sense whether he's Mafia or whether he's townie. How would these posts benefit him in either case? As for my saying you were the one stirring things up, I was thinking about other accusations you've made so far, not only this one, but I'll drop it--as I said, it doesn't bother me. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:35 qrs wrote:Look, in hindsight, I think it's clear that araav had the better plan. There are a lot of special town roles in this Mafia game. In fact, there are more special town roles than Mafia roles (without counting bodyguards). That being the case, it probably would have been smarter not to lynch (if you have that option) or to pardon your lynch (if you don't) rather than risk the 1 in 5 chance of killing a valuable towny. By the second day, you should hopefully have more information about the roleplayers, so that would no longer be an issue. But it's water under the bridge now. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 qrs wrote:Wait--PMs are already coming in? That's not good. We need to wait at least some hours before we can be reasonably sure that a detective has investigated the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:03 qrs wrote:Well, he's not Tracil. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:17 qrs wrote:um...how? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:24 qrs wrote:A mafia mayor will never act in the best interests of the town. He will always act in the best interests of the mafia. If the best interests of the mafia are to keep their man alive and let the townies do a double lynch or something, he will do that. If the best interests of the mafia are to let the townies kill him, he will do that. This seems obvious to me. edit: Ace does have an interesting point about playing some sort of weird psychological game, letting him vote and double guessing his moves, but honestly, I don't think too much info can be gleaned from that. He can just abstain. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:31 qrs wrote: You're changing the subject. We were talking about known mafia mayors. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:47 qrs wrote:Araav, it would be the same situation no matter who was elected mayor. We can't be sure that anyone is not Mafia. If the mayor is a mafioso, I'd rather lose a detective than have him go undetected: a mafioso mayor can do a lot of a damage. So even on the "die" side, I think losing the detective is the least of all evils. On the "do" side, of course, if the mayor is a townie we gain a ton by having someone we know is a townie, and protected. If Ace turns out to be a mafioso, we'll just have to move on without our double lynches--we haven't lost the game yet. As for lynching InControl, I've come to the conclusion that it was a bad decision to take the risk (since we have such a high percentage of role players), but Ace did have a logical reason for the lynch (better than FakeSteve's last game). Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:23 qrs wrote: To be honest, if it's a strategy at all, it can't be a strategy for the first lynch only. The whole point of it is to make people afraid to lurk, but if they know that there is no chance of their getting lynched for lurking after the first day, why would they care what the first-day lynch was? If this is a strategy, it has to be at least a part of the strategy for all lynches: i.e., everything else being equal, we lynch the quiet one. Not much we can do about InControl being dead, now. By the next lynch, we will hopefully have more information. Wait--that gives me an idea for a role in future games! Necromancer: The necromancer has the ability, once every ten turns, to bring one of the dead back to life. A clue will be left behind pointing to his identity. Or something like that. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:24 qrs wrote:I think you're misunderstanding fusion. He means that Empyrean was a gift of a sacrifice: someone who was practically guaranteed not to be a role-player. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:25 qrs wrote: That's not a proof: the roleblocker doesn't even have to use his role tonight. No point in trying to deduce Ace's orientation: we'll find out soon enough one way or the other. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:27 qrs wrote:just an example. I don't know what the best way to balance a role like that would be. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:54 qrs wrote: Definitely all real detectives (and all other roles) should be in contact with Ace as soon as enough time has passed to be reasonably sure that he is a towny. (Certainly by the next day. Of course, detectives can find out earlier.) As for how to find out the impostor, it's simple--just get a few detectives to ask the same question that night (debatable whether to have them all ask the same question or split them up 3/2). If one person gives the wrong answer, he's Mafia. Of course, a mafioso can probably give the right answers most of the time: but he doesn't want to. He'll never know how many other detectives you are asking the same question at any time. If he is too cautious in playing his role, he might end up being an asset to the town in spite of himself. In fact, it's probably a good idea to check detectives against each other even if four or less report, just on the chance that a detective is inactive and a mafioso has bluffed. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:20 qrs wrote:Read the OP, Op. (short answer: no.) edit: or maybe you meant can a suicide bomber kill paramedics protecting him?, which--maybe, but why would a medic protect the mayor? Detectives don't protect people. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:24 qrs wrote:It's in the original post, like most of the details about special roles. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:29 qrs wrote:Wow, relax, ~OpZ~. I wasn't attacking you; I was just pointing you to where the information could be found. The last edit to the OP was yesterday. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:19 qrs wrote: What would be the point of that? Unless you think that the Mafia will obligingly confirm as Mafia instead of town. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:23 qrs wrote: You're joking, right? In case you aren't: how could it possibly help you? Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:42 qrs wrote:Here's how I see it: everyone with a role PM should send it in to you, absolutely. Mafia has to decide whether to fake claim a role or not. Everyone else: you may as well assume they are green. If a mafioso isn't faking a claim to be blue, he will claim green as a matter of course, so why bother sending in the PMs? It's just a waste of everyone's time. IOW, let's just save some time and agree that no PM = claim to be a towny. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:43 qrs wrote: some were, some weren't Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:06 qrs wrote:It makes plenty of sense. A PM that says "Hi I'm townie", if everyone has to send it, tells you nothing more than no PM would. The starting assumption for everyone is that they are townie. Here, instead of a PM, I'll just tell you in the thread. I am a vanilla townie. (honestly, did that really tell you anything?) Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:10 qrs wrote: It's not that dumb. Assuming that all blues (+ fake-blues) send in their roles as they are supposed to, it makes absolutely no difference whether the rest of us officially declare townie or not. No one's going to declare Mafia, and anyone who was going to declare roleplayer should have done that. But on second thought, I concede that if we are afraid that some blues will stay low for whatever reason (although they shouldn't) and we are afraid of lynching them by mistake then the "I am townie" statement does do something: it tells the mayor "I am not an inactive blue". Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:33 qrs wrote: And this way, Mafia have to PM that they are townies. And that's exactly the same as doing nothing in the original scenario. They don't have to reveal anything about themselves, they don't have to contradict themselves, all they have to do is say something that is implicit from the very fact that they are playing the game. This is not an "exploit". The one slight reason I can see for having green townies PM is to eliminate the possibility that they are inactive blues. If everyone is playing well, this shouldn't be necessary (because all blues should respond) but, OK, it's possible that not all blues are paying attention, so it doesn't hurt to PM Ace--more information is not bad. In any case, I've already said in the thread that I'm a vanilla townie. (If I'm actually mafia, the Mafia knows it and if I'm actually a roleplayer, Ace knows it.) PS-French Toast has just jumped to the top of my suspicion list. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:09 qrs wrote:The clue for Ghar seems pretty incriminating, but I assume that Ace will have a detective confirm it with Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 22:44 qrs wrote: Sure you can, although the Mafia would still need to coordinate. If 2 Mafia hit someone he dies; if only one hits him, he lives. (The cap of 9 could be first come first served.) I think it was Fen who suggested a system like that after last game, but I don't recall Chuiu saying that he had decided to go with it. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:20 qrs wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure about this. It's to the town's benefit to lynch mafiosi as early as possible, to bring down the kill count. I was waiting for Ace to investigate Ghar, who seemed like a pretty sure thing based on the head clue, but it sounds like he isn't planning to investigate him this turn. I'm still undecided about who to vote for. There's also the fact that I may not log in again before the vote is closed (traveling). I am voting Ghar for now; if Ace makes a good case for lynching someone else (or even says that he is 95% certain of someone else) and I have time to switch, I will switch my vote. Ace: the earlier you can tell us who to vote for, the better. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:24 qrs wrote: How sure are you of him? Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:26 qrs wrote:FWIW, I agree with Mr. Pink on this one. 48 hours a day is 48 hours a day--a rule is a rule. Why should the rules be bent to help the town? Some people are treating this like the town is somehow the "good" team that "should" win, but that's ridiculous. (And if you think a post like this is evidence that I'm Mafia, that's ridiculous as well.) Besides, personally, I'd prefer to see the game move along instead of dragging out. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:38 qrs wrote:Why keep responding to HeRoS? Whether he's Mafia or town, he's just cluttering up the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:25 qrs wrote: More or less the same as the proportion of mafiosi in the town as a whole. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:19 qrs wrote:Definitely suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:26 qrs wrote: I don't find that strange. He didn't get elected: it makes sense that he would lose some interest. (happened in the first game too.) He's still been posting occasionally, and continuing to contribute by updating his list of profile info. Frankly, there's not that always that much to say. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:39 qrs wrote:Yes: his own words after the final vote-count (but before Ace accused him): Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:43 qrs wrote:I didn't share your initial impressions (I voted for him, actually): I thought that he presented a reasonable platform (although not as extensive as yours), and I thought and still think that his argument that he was contributing to the town was not a ridiculous pretense. It doesn't prove he is a townie, but it goes some way towards that. The mafia would have to think long and hard before letting a member go ahead with posting something that could help link clues to people, just on the chance that it might help him get elected. You're entitled to your suspicions, of course. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 01:48 qrs wrote: In these games, clues can help find mafiosi and having a master list of profiles and relevant info seems like it should be very helpful in matching the clues with people. Put it this way: maybe I'm overrating it, but if I was Mafia, I would prefer not to have a master list like that out there. If araav hadn't done it? Maybe someone else would have. Maybe not. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 01:51 qrs wrote:We can argue about how suspicious araav is (I don't suspect him at all; Ace does), but we don't have anything like the severed-head clue pointing to him at the moment. If araav is the best we have, I will be voting for Ghar in the next lynch. Might be worth setting a detective on the severed-head clue. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:36 qrs wrote: Who else has already done it? I don't even know what you mean by that: if araav was the first to produce the list, anyone who came after only had to copy his list. On a different subject: TO ALL VIGILANTES AND/OR ACE: re vigilante strategy, I'd like to suggest that we not use up vigilante kills until we have more suspects than we can deal with through lynches. For instance, at the moment, Ghar seems like a very strong suspect, but after him, the evidence on everyone else who has been brought up is a lot weaker. It might seem attractive for a vigilante to get a sure kill by killing Ghar tonight, but if the day comes, and we haven't yet figured out a sure lynch (or two) and waste the lynch on a townie, the vig kill will essentially have been wasted. As the game goes on and we/Ace figure more things out, we will probably have more suspects (as in the first game) than we can handle at one time, and then the vig kills will come in handy. When there's a line for the first cash register, that's when it's time to open the second. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:07 qrs wrote:Comment/concern: Sounds like a plan, but it should not come at the expense of lynching a mafioso tomorrow. Right now, as far as I'm concerned, Ghar is the prime suspect, at least until a detective tells us that the severed head did not point to him. If Ghar is suspect #1 or suspect #2, or if there is a stronger case pointing to them than to Ghar, I'll go along with the vote. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 06:36 qrs wrote:Sure, but we can do both: simply make Ghar either Suspect #1 or Suspect #2 and proceed with the plan. Unless you have better suspects by the time tomorrow comes, I can't see a reason not to do that. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 06:55 qrs wrote:Yeah. I don't think one should. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:24 qrs wrote: No more flawed than a vigilante's role. No more flawed than town's ability to lynch, for that matter. Of course, if you plant the bombs before you're sure someone is Mafia, you risk killing a townie, the same way that vigilantes risk killing townies and the town risks lynching townies. As long as the mad hatter role is used well, it's just another way of killing Mafia. That can't be bad for the town. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:05 qrs wrote: More important to find a confirmed townie to whom Ace can pass his list of special roles. But that's a long way off for now. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:28 qrs wrote: Do you have any reason besides him not PMing his role? You can't have gotten PMs from all the green townies. I agree that abstaining instead of voting Mandalor (if wurm did that after you posted to vote for Mandalor) is slightly suspicious, but I don't see almost-certainty. On another subject: a comment about the latest detective plan. Instead of spending a detection on the 7 people who voted for Ghar (since only 1/7 are mafia--less than the overall percentage, and only 1 mafioso total), have you considered going after the larger pool of people instead? Put it differently: you mentioned two groups: a group of 58 with 10 mafiosi (1/5.8) and a group of 7 containing 1 mafioso (1/7). You neglected the final group: a group of 58 with 9 mafiosi (1/6.4). Why not get to work on this group? We divide them in half (more or less) every turn, so the sooner we start on the large groups, the better. Edit: The best of luck to you, Chuiu. May your ailment soon pass. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 21:27 qrs wrote:Not sure if I want to go along with lynching Wurm, when we have a much stronger suspect in Ghar. The question is: is it worth a single investigation to possibly preserve a medic? The evidence against wurm seems very circumstantial. Ace, I'll PM you when I have time. I don't plan to follow our mayor blindly. Even if he did win the game, it wouldn't be very fun for me, if I was just his mindless drone. That doesn't mean I'll oppose him just for the sake of it--I'm perfectly willing to go along with the plan and vote for suspect #1 if there's a good case for the one we end up lynching, but atm, I'm not convinced that it's time to lynch wurm. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:52 qrs wrote:Yes, I've seen your posts... Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:16 qrs wrote:One more thought about the detective plan: We only need one detective to split a group. E.g., if 4 people in half #1 are mafiosi, 6 people in half #2 must be mafiosi. Technically, there's no reason that both halves have to vote unanimously. Therefore, we can speed things up by going a few steps at a time: e.g., first 29 people vote for suspect #1, second 15 people vote for suspect #2. If we have more detectives, we can go on: third 7 people vote for suspect #3. This way we maximize our detective power. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:22 qrs wrote:If anything, the Ghar list reduces his chance of being mafia. Chance of anyone not on the Ghar list being Mafia is ~1/6.1. The out-of-nowhere clue I like better for Ninja. The shotgun clue may be a good one, though. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:45 qrs wrote: Wurm would only know that he protected someone, not how many people did: Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:50 qrs wrote:^Your point being? Ace was saying that wurm (the supposed medic) should have said something if 2 people protected the target. edit: d'oh, you're right. Yeah, Ace should know if 2 people protected Falcynn (or whomever). Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:55 qrs wrote:Read Ace's post, then read my post, then read my edit. ;-) There was a hole in what Ace was saying (that wurm should have said something in case 2). I was responding to that, but, yeah, I missed the obvious point that Ace should know what happened anyway. I don't know why he's being tricky about it. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:57 qrs wrote:@ Ace: Whoever the medic(s) protected knows how many people protected him. He should tell you. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:59 qrs wrote:Because he blurted it out earlier in the thread. I'll dig it up if you want. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:04 qrs wrote:page 95 Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 03:03 qrs wrote:I don't think there is a strong enough case to lynch wurm over Ghar. As far as leaving him to die, does anyone think the Mafia will kill him if they know that we will lynch him tomorrow?Showtime!, what are you talking about? Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 06:35 qrs wrote:Double lynches aren't free kills. We only have 6 of them. Anyway, you still have tonight to prove yourself, wurm. PM Ace the name of the person you're protecting--if you're lucky, Mafia will go for him. Ahrara, the logic behind Ace's plan is very simple: simply a way to narrow down who the Mafia are. It only works if people follow it. Why would you abstain? There aren't enough detectives to check everyone individually--otherwise this game would be a lot easier for the town. If you are townie, it hurts the town for you to vote that way. If one person can get away with doing it, anyone can, and the plan goes down the drain. That alone would be a reason to lynch you, whether you are townie or not. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 09:38 qrs wrote:Yes, I understood what he meant. My point remains, we don't have enough detectives to check everyone individually. They only have one check a night. It's far more efficient to check large groups and narrow them down, as per the plan Ace is following, then to check groups of 1, or small groups. So what were your notes on me, Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:13 qrs wrote:who cares? Posted in night7/main_page.142 Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:46 qrs wrote:They're good at hitting blues but bad at maximizing their kills. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:48 qrs wrote:LOL. Good catch. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 23:41 qrs wrote:someone kill showtime! please Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:35 qrs wrote:Just caught up on the last 10 pages or so... I seem to be alone in this, but TBH, for argument's sake, if someone hacked into a chatroom, I would see that as part of the game, not even BM. Like picking the lock on a conference room in real life. But it's a moot point. Anyway, I don't want to derail the game, but it's gotten to the point where I just don't want to read Showtime!'s posts anymore, no matter what his role is. Casting my second vote to lynch Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:35 qrs wrote: I am a townie, I've said so in the thread, and it wouldn't make a difference if I PMed Ace. Absolutely true. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 01:11 qrs wrote: I wish Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:22 qrs wrote:No, you missed the point, Showtime! And you keep missing it. QFT. You can have the last word if you like, Showtime!, I won't post anything more about you. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:39 qrs wrote:Yes, no need to check Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote:*Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 14:08 qrs wrote: Thank you, Captain Obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 21:34 qrs wrote: Huh? Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:24 qrs wrote:If Ace has really quit (although I don't think he has), the one to replace him would have to be randombum. Because of his bodyguard protection. Edit: crossposted with nightmare Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 20:36 qrs wrote:If Ace is Mafia then our detectives were all worthless. PS-Thank you, Queasy. We all owe you one. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:44 qrs wrote:Remember, the detectives were probably protected by medics, so the Mafia had to waste some hits to be sure of killing them. If they were being ultra-safe and using 3 hits each, that's 6 hits used up right there. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:24 qrs wrote:Waiting on Ace, but so far, araav seems at least suspicious, given what we know: viz, he got into a chatroom and had a chance to see the names of people who had roles. He's never really addressed what happened there. Araav, I think it's time for you to explain yourself. How did you find it, why did you go there, what did you see there? And why did two detectives die last night? | ||
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48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 21:00 qrs wrote: In short, you are saying that this IRC channel never was? Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 04 2008 23:36 qrs wrote:Araav, I still don't understand what you say happened with the "channel". Let me summarize your so-called "answer to the accusations": 1) Please don't call me bad names. 2) Don't believe everything everyone says. 3) I'm not sure what you meant by this. It sounds like you're saying that the channel didn't exist. Or are you saying that it existed but there were no blues there? In any case, how would Mafia know this is false any more than townies? 4) Showtime may be a Mafia member. Three irrelevant points and one that sort of addresses the issue, but is too vague to understand. Can you just say plainly what you mean? Was there a channel at all? Were you in it? If Showtime! made the whole thing up, say so. If that's not what you meant, say so. Meanwhile, you continue to make illogical insinuations that Ace is Mafia, even though ALL of the detectives were supposed to investigate him, and NONE of them said a word. You seem to be a smart guy: this lapse in logic is...odd. All this adds up to: I vote for araav until he defends himself more clearly. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:33 qrs wrote:If the Mafia tried to kill them before, then the Mafia didn't want to keep them alive, wouldn't you say? So they didn't do well at the stated goal of making the Mafia want to keep them alive. Not that it really matters... Ace, what's the deal with araav, and this whole chatroom thing? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 13:52 qrs wrote: What is the basis for this belief? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 01:55 qrs wrote: Showtime! was full of it. I should hope Ace would tell us if we were voting for someone who was confirmed innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 19:56 qrs wrote: OK, I admit that showtime was an idiot and the chatroom story made very little sense anyway. The only reason I half-believed it was that Ace had been backing showtime up. I don't know what Ace is thinking, though, so since he hasn't brought it up since showtime died... I'd change my vote, but the final vote count is in. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:42 qrs wrote: It's not just phones; there were some references to lead, I think. Cf., e.g., this post. Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:04 qrs wrote:What the hell, Ace! Maybe it's your fault, maybe not, but you've done nothing but screw over the town this game. Don't check out the Ghar clue, make us lynch wurm, take the lynch off the suicide bomber so we lynch a townie instead, apparently leak information (deliberately or not) that leads to Mafia figuring out half the roles! I'm through taking direction. Plexa's list seems to be the best thing we've got now. Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 23:06 qrs wrote: Showtime! said a lot of things, most of them idiotic and/or trying to make himself look important. Ace himself has already "confirmed" at least one mafioso as a townie. I consider Showtime!'s "confirmation" worth absolutely nothing. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:47 qrs wrote:thought better of my post; pointless to criticise over spilt milk Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 07:45 qrs wrote:No, but the fact that you've been wrong about many of the things you have told us seems to indicate that. That pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it? But I thought it over and you do have a point; there's not much gained by me bitching about your leadership. And although you've done pretty badly overall, I have no reason to think that I would have been any better. I edited out that second post of mine, and I won't bring the subject up again. I will shut the f--- up, in other words. (You can keep voting for me if you like: hopefully it won't affect whom we lynch.) On the subject of L, I was convinced at first, but once I actually looked at the numbers, they don't seem to add up. As LTT pointed out, there are a lot more than 12 nails. Edit: And if you're counting the nails that hit him, there are only 8. + Show Spoiler + Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 10:01 qrs wrote:After thinking over the evidence, I'm going to vote for suresh0t. I think he's the Wolf. Here are my reasons: 1) We don't know a whole lot about the Wolf, but one thing seems to be clear: he hits his targets (sure shot). Of course the most blatant example of that is: That's the only one I would regard as a strong clue, but looking at the other times we've met the Wolf, they check out as well: Neither Chuiu nor Caller can dodge the Wolf's attack. (The other mafia missed plenty, and sometimes the victims survive for a while.) As I said, though, it's the first quote which really stands out. A nail thrown down the hall, killing instantly? I mean, come on, if that's not a sure shot, than nothing is. 2) Someone pointed this out a long time ago: suresh0ts signature, "Please forgive me for questioning divinity, it's an ugly job but I think I'm up for it", fits with "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand." (faux-apologizing for attacking an authority-figure) 3) His posts? Pretty bland. His votes: goes with the bandwagon or abstains. Not proof of anything on its own, but certainly what I would consider consistent with a mafioso trying to lie low. 4) For what it's worth, he's on the Mandalor list. 5) This is the clincher. We've all been wondering about those nails, right? Check out what suresh0t is holding in his profile pic: That's right. A hammer. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote: Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:29 qrs wrote:Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t: 1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic. Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. (original post) It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.) I'll cast my second vote for fusion. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote:Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 11:56 qrs wrote: Because we don't know what happened. araav says it wasn't him. Ace sort of maybe says that the blues weren't in the channel, or only some of the blues were in the channel, I don't know. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:08 qrs wrote:It's easy to manipulate statistics. For example, you write, "Keep in mind that none of us are in the mandalor list, so the odds of any of us being mafia is about 1/10." That has nothing to do with it. 1/10 would be the odds if all we knew about was the mandalor list. But we have other information. Either one mafioso voted in both lists or two mafioso voted: one in each. That means either the trio of ImDerek/evilmonkey/alventenie contains one mafioso or all are innocent. If they are innocent, you are Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance is mafia. ImDerek: 1/6 chance of being mafia (1/2*1/3) evilmonkey: 1/6 alventenie: 1/6 fusion: 1/2 (1/2 *1) useless: 1/4 (1/2* 1/2) aznvaliance: 1/4. edit: I agree it seems likely that there was some kind of leak. Ace already said that at least some of that was Mandalor. Maybe other fake blues picked up information as well. If it was araav, shouldn't Ace be pushing for his lynching? Then again, Ace hasn't been acting that rationally recently, so I don't know. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:04 qrs wrote:To be fair to Plexa, he came up with the number 12 before he could think of anyone to link it to. Even so, it seems like a very weak clue to me. The daggers I could maybe buy, but the nails just don't add up. 16 mentioned, 10+1 thrown/stabbed, 7+1 hit. Where do you see 12? We shouldn't split our votes so much that a non-candidate gets lynched (e.g. me--6 votes; evidence: "I want him to shut up" ). I still think that more clues point to suresh0t than to anyone else. My second vote is for fusion atm, but I'll change it if necessary. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:11 qrs wrote:^fusion, you're twisting the stats. The Ghar/Ace lists give us more detailed information than the Mandalor list. Yes, 7/63 people are mafia, but 1 or 2 of those 7 are one of you 6. You might as well say, "Of the billions of people in the world, what are the odds that I'm a mafioso?" Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:25 qrs wrote:I've read all your posts. Even you admit that there are clues pointing at you. What should I do, take your word that you're innocent? If you get lynched and flip green, I hereby apologize now. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:35 qrs wrote:There's also the sig. My take on the nails? Maybe Cottonmouth picked up the nails that Wolf had left lying around. Or maybe you're not the Wolf after all, but you are Cottonmouth. Or maybe the nails don't point at you. I'm not sure that you're Mafia, just there's more evidence for you than for anyone else, IMO. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:04 qrs wrote: Wow, was that a confession? Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:23 qrs wrote:Well, we know who our next lynch is. Guess he won't need a blindfold. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:36 qrs wrote:Nice work spotting those clues, by the way. It was obvious once you pointed it out, but no one had seen it. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 19:51 qrs wrote: I can't believe you actually think your convoluted numerology constitutes strong evidence. No offense--you did great with BlindAlbino, but the Master of Chaos "clue" is absurdly strained: + Show Spoiler + Cottonmouth: Cottonmouth is surrounded by numbers. By counting up the number references in the Day posts he shows up in, we arrive at this: Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 42 (40 + day 2) Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 (40 + day 4) #40 on the participant list is MasterOfChaos. I don't know whether MoC is Mafia or not, but I'd bet a thousand dollars that your evidence has nothing to do with it. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 20:48 qrs wrote:It's not "also"--it's necessary to your interpretation. I find plenty of room for coincidence.It's not a matter of logic but of judgement. I'll say no more of it now--if you've convinced people, they'll vote for him--but after the game (if not earlier) we'll see whether you were right. I'll be stunned if you are. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 21:01 qrs wrote:I was going to leave it at that, but since you posted while I was writing that, and since you specifically tell me to reply, I will: 1) Chuiu has never based clues off people's numbers in the list and I don't think he ever will. This is an important point, because it makes it MUCH easier to twist the clues to point at anyone you like. Everyone has a number, not just people like Eti307 (and by the way, I think it's more likely that some of the numbers [3-0-7 nails] point at him than at MoC), and the numbers go in increments of one. That means all I have to do is find a couple of tweaks to your count to make the clue point at someone else. It also means that ANY number you came up with would point at someone. 2) You don't count things like "a", "the", "another", because they are not literal numbers, but you do count "once". That's not a number any more than "a" is. 3) Subtract the number of the day? That strikes me as particularly tortured. You only do it to make your count consistent. I do think the numbers--OR SOME OF THEM--are probably a clue. I don't think you've interpreted that clue though. If you still disagree, fine, you're welcome to. The truth will come around in the end. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 22:11 qrs wrote:*sigh* I hardly think it's necessary, but to make you happy I had a look to see what I could tweak and I noticed that you had inexplicably failed to bold "two knives met his hands". Oh, hey, now the numbers both add up to 44! They must point at str! (sarcasm, but that would still be marginally more convincing than your original version). No, I don't want to be stubborn about it. I wasn't going to post again until you specifically told me to. I'm not going to debate "once" vs. "a" with you now, because it's not worth the effort. Neither one is a cardinal number. Both refer to single things. If you see a difference between them, that's great. I did point out where I felt your analysis was stretched. I can't say "wrong" because there's no proof per se against your concoction (nor against any other 'clues'). I just don't find it very credible. I've said I'm willing to drop this. You're the one who's being stubborn. I know you're proud of your detective work, but that doesn't mean that anyone who disagrees with you is Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:51 qrs wrote:I don't have much confidence in Ace's judgment, since it has been wrong more often than it has been right so far. Meanwhile, unless I missed something when I was catching up on the thread, the whole accusation against L was based on a mistake that L pointed out and Chuiu confirmed. Therefore, as far as we know, there is no case against L at the moment. (Of course, the Mafia knows he's a medic now: too bad...) I will not be voting for L this lynch. I'll probably vote suresh0t because of the clues that seem to point at him. (summary: + Show Spoiler + 1)sure shot: 1-hit kill with nail thrown down hall; twice says that Caller tried to dodge but couldn't. 2) signature: apology for taking on God (authority) but someone has to do it, corresponds with the Wolf's apology to Chuiu for killing him (Chuiu was an authority figure in the Mafia). 3) Profile pic: hammer--goes with nails. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 23:30 qrs wrote:OK, maybe. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes and I don't know whether everything you've done so far has brought the town closer to victory, so I'm not commenting on that. All I see is the final results, and based on those so far, I'm not ready to vote for someone just on your say-so. If L turns out to be Mafia, I'll get behind you again. If he turns out to be townie, I'll be that bit more skeptical of you. So we'll see. People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please? Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:30 qrs wrote:Thanks. My thoughts on those clues: 1) Not that strong: for all we know, L did protect decaf, but it's something. 2) OK. 3) weakish. 4) OK. 5) Don't think this one is a clue: L wasn't drawn as unattractive in the end, and there isn't so much evidence that Enigma is unattractive. Overall the evidence seems fairly good, though, although I still like suresh0t better. Thanks for clarifying. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:39 qrs wrote: They both seem pretty strong to me. suresh0t seems to have more things pointing directly to details of his profile, whereas with L it's more of an overall reference to the character L: enigmatic, concerned about justice, possible connection to a detective (hmm, it just occurred to me that the note could be a reference to "death note", too). I favor suresh0t slightly, but L would likely be my second choice. The only other issue is that he may be a medic. I guess we need to trust Ace to handle that end of things. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:40 qrs wrote:The Wolf. One person. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 17:36 qrs wrote:^your wikipedia link was to the main article L, which was about the letter. no matter Wow, awesome, araav (the blog post especially). You're saying that a German translation that means target is a more natural connection to accuracy than "sure shot"? Can't say I agree with that... To add to the possible evidence against suresh0t, there's a reference to the Wolf carrying debris out of a building (after d.arkive's suicide blast). Why would anyone do that? It sounds a bit like a construction worker (the hammer again). Granted, this particular connection is a bit weak, but does anyone have a better explanation for "carrying a pile of debris"? Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 02:50 qrs wrote:Cool, good job with crazie-penguin. I have to admit that I was skeptical about the evidence, but I was wrong; nice work. Re Eti307, let me remind you of something someone else suggested a while ago (forgot who it was): the number of nails Cottonmouth uses may relate to Eti: 7 stabbed in the back, 3 thrown but missed, 1 not thrown at all (stopped by the Wolf, = 0). That would connect him to Cottonmouth rather than Joe, but it's something else to keep in mind. (307 doesn't fit with the number of knives, though, so I'm not really sold on this.) Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 19:05 qrs wrote:MTF, for God's sake, stop adding up the stupid numbers! It was unconvincing from the start, and it's only getting more and more strained. The only numbers we care about are the weapons Cottonmouth uses. Haven't you noticed that there are always 15? edit: It's not %100 clear. I assume that the two that klive dodged were the same two that Cottonmouth threw and I count the five nails lying on the ground but I don't count the nail that the Wolf took from Cottonmouth. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 04:10 qrs wrote: I have a slight objection to lynching L unless we have no other good suspects. Reason: 1) There's still the possibility that he's a medic and 2) even if he isn't, we can still use him as one to a degree. E.g. if we want to keep Plexa alive (or someone else--no one too important, though), just keep telling L to protect him. Either L lets him die and we lynch L then, or he lives. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 17:30 qrs wrote: Not really such a big deal: there are only 4 double-lynches left. Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:02 qrs wrote: Can't comment on the generally annoying part--sorry, I guess--but what is "resistant to Town" supposed to mean? I've voted, commented if I thought some clue interpretation was convincing/unconvincing. What else is a good townie supposed to do? Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 23:20 qrs wrote:I have to admit that the thought crossed my mind to run myself, but after seeing the explosion of posts on the first day--forget it. If the pace stays even close to this, I'll never be able to keep up. For that reason, I vote for randombum. He says that he'll have the time to spend on this game, and he proved it by sending out over 100 PMs. ______ PS-Obviously, had I run, my campaign would not have been about me (who knows me?) but about my platform. So I may as well say what it would have been: these are the things I think are important for a mayor: The Mayor by QRS -Don't use double lynches unless we have a solid idea about who to use them on. In the last Mafia game, the town followed Tracil's rule of using double lynches every day (until they lynched the mayor) and they were both wasted. There is a limited supply, so we should use them wisely. -Delegate. This game is so huge it will be very hard for one person to keep track of everything. Assign several people to keep track of people's profile quotes and any other evidence on them. Better, ask everyone to keep track of, say, the two people above them on the list of participants. That makes things more manageable. (OK, it wasn't a huge platform. ) Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:25 qrs wrote:After reading some more of the other thread, I withdraw my vote for randombum. I vote for Araav. I agree with his view on saving double lynches (which is the most important power that a mayor has for the town), and he seems like a sensible guy overall. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 11:55 qrs wrote:Haven't had a chance to catch up on the reading yet and I see that the bandwagon is heading for Ghar, so I may switch my vote, but for the moment: I vote for French Toast: his wild accusations about "cheating" made me suspicious. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:21 qrs wrote:I retract my vote from French Toast and vote for Ghar based on the severed head. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:29 qrs wrote:Won't be able to log in for some hours: I retract my vote from Ghar and vote Mandalor. Trusting Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 12:20 qrs wrote: Why? Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:47 qrs wrote:I vote Ghar. Will possibly change my vote later according to Ace's plan. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 29 2008 00:36 qrs wrote:Second vote: Showtime! Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 23:37 qrs wrote:araav Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:39 qrs wrote:You either missed my vote on the first page or you're very particular about protocol, in which case, I vote for araav. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 00:05 qrs wrote:Based on Plexa's and HeRoS)Pink's analysis of the number clue, I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 01:32 qrs wrote:Changing to abstaining (after actually looking at what the numbers were, not so clear that they mean 12) Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 10:05 qrs wrote:First vote: suresh0t. Second vote: abstain, for the moment. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 11:10 qrs wrote:second vote: fusionsdf Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 23:51 qrs wrote:I vote for suresh0t Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 04:14 qrs wrote:I vote suresh0t and ulszz + Show Spoiler [randombum] + 17. randombum (Pardoner) Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 randombum wrote:YAY can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:36 randombum wrote:With over 130 people... votes alone are going to take up 7 pages! This one's going to so easily surpass the last games post count. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 02:15 randombum wrote: Fishball you'll find that quite a few people post here on TL just for mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 11:53 randombum wrote:Ahh man, I really want to be mayor that would be sweet. Just getting my name out there. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 08:35 randombum wrote:They should just give you powers to change titles . Of course you would only use it for your own game. . Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 05:12 randombum wrote:Can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 09:08 randombum wrote:3 more hours!! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 11:05 randombum wrote:So... any rough estimate on when u pass out roles tonight chuiu? Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:57 randombum wrote:LOL Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:59 randombum wrote:You guys will be surprised how many of the less active members will come back for their roles. See they are normal townies, read my PM vote for me, and sorry for getting hopes up. I did not intend for that. And yes this takes much more work than just 1 topic in this thread. But that is to enhance point 1 in which I have way too much time to this. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:08 randombum wrote:I think you spent more time writing that response than I did writing out my PM. Thanks for the effort and the consideration. Posted in night7/main_page.015 Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:16 randombum wrote:This isn't politics (mayor part is). THIS IS MAFIA!!!! + Show Spoiler + You expected sparta didn't you? Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:31 randombum wrote:If I was able to outwit everyone, or have a better answer than them I would make a potentially very dangerous candidate. Consider, everything I say is perfect, I can change the minds of a convinced crowd into another opinion, but even when I'm wrong I can convince them that they are wrong. A person with such good persuasion would probably become mayor. That is what you recommend I do, but if I were that good, and (I'm not) if I was a mafia, then the town would be in huge trouble. I will never tell you what to do, but simply to provide what evidence I get (hopefully I can convince the town to send me roles and do what hotzhot did last game which helped the townies alot), and/or how I interpret it. Right now my main tactic is to get my name out there and hope that people who don't care too much about mayor will give it to the person who wants it most. P.S. I wish chuiu would post when he's going to start handing out roles, I'm so anxious. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:32 randombum wrote: Such hostility, what exactly did I do to offend you? Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:39 randombum wrote:Vote for me and you get As your mayor (Courtesy of somuchbetter) Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:42 randombum wrote: Is dapperdan on? Can he do the roles. Gosh this waiting is so ahhhg.... can't describe. To pass time we can do more bum bashing. I personally think they smell rather bad. (both British bums and American bums.) Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:03 randombum wrote:How can you define better answer though? Player2 still has his reasons for player 9 and player1 has not convinced anybody. He has merely said: "Hey you may be right and I will consider it, but I will stick to my original opinion." However, I agree with the way you have it set it. That is, people sharing opinions and ideas with respect given all around. (stop the hate?) I also concede the fact that having a better answer would be a good thing. I was just pointing out that having a better answer all the time and able to change other people's opinion may not be the best mayoral candidate. Imagine somebody able to change other people's opinions very easily. He would be a very strong mayor IF he had perfect information, whereas a mafia with that ability has all the information he needs. This skill would help a mafia mayor more than a townie mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:12 randombum wrote:With chuiu's post I go to sleep. Thanks for all the hard work chuiu, I found out how much effort it takes to send pms to hundreds of people. Not to mention the posts take a lot of effort. As to the others thanks for the stimulating conversations along with helping me build up resistance to written abuse. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:32 randombum wrote:I'm back from sleeping/school. And I shall start my campaigning. This will be a lengthy post. First off reasons for voting me: 1. Again I do have far too much time over 10 hours a day to spend on this. (I likely will not spend all 10, but depending on how much I'm needed IE if in the first night we kill 12 mafia.) 2. Tracil a mafia vet has pointed out that double lynchings are good for the town. And they are, here is my belief of them: In a game this big the hardest thing is finding out who is mafia. Information is needed for lynching mafia correctly. More lynches will almost always give information for the town to try to decipher. More information leads to mafia lynches the next day. 3. As CDR pointed out my lynching/voting for last game was immaculate. He points out that he is hesitant because I did not vote the first few days (where town got it wrong), but that is incorrect I ABSTAINED from voting because I did not find sufficient evidence for those getting lynched. My good voting skills is a good base to judge me because I will likely lead the town to victory. 4 This is more of plea than a real reason, but I have built up a lot of enemies with my pms, and unless I get bodyguard protection I'm fearful that the mafia will target me, or vigilantes who are mad at me. I shall now go on to point out what other leading candidates have had to say. Your plan involves building up trust where people send information to the mayor just like hotzhot did last game. That is good, that is also my plan as I stated earlier before roles were given. Only your way of determining yourself as a townie is not as efficient as hotzhots' was. Either a detective has to waste his scan confirming you are indeed townie, or he has to publically declare himself as detective and say you are not a townie. Thereby getting the detective murdered and you lynched costing the town. This is no problem if you are townie (well a wasted DT skill) But there being no real way to determine townie on the first night so your point on detectives finding mayor is moot. 1. I do not see how being the oldest makes you any better at being mayor. Sure there is wisdom with age, but most people on TL have gone past adolescence and are rather intelligent. They do not need an older person telling them what to do. 2. I do not see how double lynching later into the game helps the town. If the town has reasons to suspect two people and asks for the double lynch will you not do it? 3. Again, if the town wanted him dead who are you to deny the down of their votes. Its like saying: "Hey I don't respect your opinion, this man lives" 4. Again, I do not see how this is relevant to being mayor. 5. That is a nice list, and perhaps I would have done it had I been awake when sonuvbob asked for it. However it leaves out pictures which was what chuiu based some of his clues off of (zdd grim reaper) Also, that list is already available on the first page. I don't know how you do it, but I had to do it rather slowly, clicking names-pm-type in subject-copy Paste. The process itself is rather easy, but multiply it by about 150 and a 5 second thing can take 12 minutes. I didn't even do it that fast because it took over 40 minutes maybe I'm just slow? Regardless it showed effort from me. Far more than it took for you to say: "hey look I so great I can do twice what he did in 1/20th the time! More importantly, you care less for being mayor than making fun of me. That is neither detrimental to the town, nor is it very polite. Empyrean is hurting the town more than he is helping by declaring he is a DT. Think about it. Either he actually is and the mafia now know who to stop (sabotage) or kill if he is not elected. HOWEVER, he also could be a lying mafia. The only way to prove that is if OTHER detectives come out wait! WE are the detectives thereby killing EMP but costing us all our DT's. You risked one of the town's greatest roles for a selfish reason. (getting elected when you cannot prove you are DT) Lastly, ACE you have a lot of posts so I will not try to spoiler all of them merely debate your points. Your bodyguard plan is good actually. Very good. The only flaw would be inactive bodyguards, OR mafia killing a few bodyguards b4 they can confirm they recieved the PM. Thats no likely so it should work. Actually, there's nothing really wrong I find with you. I would be more than happy to be mayor/pardoner with you. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:57 randombum wrote:I think it's because the bodyguard plan doesn't really do much. Either the bodyguards know who the other bodyguards are, thereby they will not lynch each other. But thats the best. What he means (well what I take him to mean) is that a mafia mayor will not lose any of the powers of being mayor regardless of the bodyguard plan. That is a mafia for mayor will still follow the plan and it would not really hurt him. Edit: The plan only works if the (mafia) mayor does something stupid and try to mess with the list. Edit: added (mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:24 randombum wrote:Ace the bodyguard plan is not faulty, but merely that even if implemented its not that great. True that is 7 people who are working together, but 10(mayorx4) will not be able to change much with 130 people voting. It is FAR more important for information to be shared with everybody. (not who are bodyguards but other information.) The mafia or pardoner's position should be the mouthpieces of the town. Detectives (don't have to reveal their detective status) can send information to mayor. The mayor repeats it to the town. Thereby giving the town the ability hear all the information from everyone, but keeping those people anonymous. So the more involved people do not have to share their opinions publicly. This keeps our active people alive, but they ideas are still shared. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:28 randombum wrote: Your way still involves the detective's using 1/2 of their best ability on you. They ARE at risk because a mafia can easily say hes a DT and that you are not mafia. Then for him to be stopped the real DTs have to say hold on WE are the DTs not him he must be mafia. Now the fake dt/mafia is exposed and lynched soon, but the Dts, get murdered and the town has ultimately lost. Also having detectives to verify jacks/vigilantes is not as good as having detectives try to find mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:29 randombum wrote:It was my plan first. Edit top of page 16 not 19 >.< Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:45 randombum wrote:Your right of course, the bodyguard plan is the best at the moment (I agreed with this earlier). Also I would argue role claiming is a HORRIBLE idea. Its the quickest way to get the important roles killed. Unless its to the mayor which is my plan anyways. You are right Mayor will obviously be believed if the town trusts his worth (which they should eventually that or lynch him). BUT if the bodyguards vote in conjunction with the mayor they will quickly be murdered then the mayor can be murdered. The mayor could sway the votes, but for it to work they would have to have information not just his own+ his bodyguards opinions. Dunno, it seems like many of us share similar ideas, its just who the town likes more. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:49 randombum wrote: Thats perfect. Bodyguard plan-> known innocent-> information sharing (most important)-> coordinated effort. HOWEVER, I don't think we need to sacrifice a bodyguard. The information could be sent to the mayor on Day 2 instead who will then become the town leader. Why do you think we should risk a bodyguard for something the mayor can do? Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:41 randombum wrote:This round dectective's have a new skill which does exactly that. (ask chuiu for his position) Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:23 randombum wrote: We don't lynch anybody as a town the first day. The elected mayor gets to lynch somebody. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:35 randombum wrote: This is assuming empyrean is telling the truth. That is impossible to tell atm. (Well if chuiu goes nuts and say he is but...) Either way, vigilantes and other powerful townies are as free to rape as they want. Furthermore, gathering information is pretty much the basis of me and ghar's platforms. I do not see how him being a DT as mayor would help us anymore than being a DT but unannounced. Again, there being no way of verifying his spot. (without the 4 REAL dts saying they are dts which would hurt more or as much as a mafia mayor). Ultimately, we either vote empyrean and he has told the truth. Good. Or, we just ignore him as this could easily be a mafian ploy to get mayor. The only way he could be found to be false is to give up some real detectives. Bad. And yes, the mafia POV is they tie up empyrean every turn (until they figure out another position). But this costs the town 1 role where before the mafia would have had to guess what townies had what. Edit: wow like 4 people beat me while writing this. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:41 randombum wrote:I think that's a good interpretation I highly doubt that wolves are a red herring and is an actual clue. Therefore I too believe CTStalker is a likely mafia. Edit: clarity. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:49 randombum wrote:Last game there was sufficient evidence for dr.dragoon. Still the town was wrong. That said, I think all opinions and suspicions should be stated in this thread. (Important suspicions due to roles should be sent to someone who cant be murdered once they are proven clean. but there are no abilities used yet anyways.) The reason for stating suspicions publicly is that people cannot suddenly vote to tip the balance (mafia like). They will have a background of saying "I think it might be him". Also while you should not say let's all vote for him until you get good evidence saying it might be him may help the town to reason out clues. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 12:58 randombum wrote: Not always... using clues the first game hurt town quite a bit. But we'll see, the mayor will likely have to do it randomly. (minus his bodyguards of course. Can he lynch the pardoner?) Edit: bolded a question I wanted read. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:04 randombum wrote:Ace, I'm sort of curios as to what method you would use to lynch someone when you are (likely) elected mayor. I don't think it will change your election. Unless you say you are going to kill one of your voters, but unlikely. If its something that can't be shared yet then don't obviously. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:08 randombum wrote:Does it involve a random number generator ace? That will quickly get you lynched or lose your votes. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:10 randombum wrote:Lol ok then Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:38 randombum wrote: You are assuming that empy is telling the truth. That assumption could cost the town a crap load if he isn't. The only way to prove he isn't mafia is if the real detectives step forward and say HEY we are detectives and he is lying. Either way its hurting the town. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:06 randombum wrote:Is ace on? Will he be able to give his speech and secret project he's been hinting at? Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 randombum wrote:Edit read previous post. That would rock. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:31 randombum wrote:Chuiu, I think just switching it to me will smooth the game along. I already have my target picked Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:37 randombum wrote:Edit: NM crd changed his question Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:10 randombum wrote:Dang ace crushed my dreams. I wanted to feel my PMs worked so I could make fun of people who laughed at it. Posted in night7/main_page.063 Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:21 randombum wrote:Guys you all FF'd up. Ace lynched a townie EPIC FAIL!. JK Guys stop bashing on Ace for making a hard decision. I will definitely be more active than tracil at pardoning if there is good reason to suspect that he is getting lynched do to mafia activity. You can pardon the first days lynch??!! I was under the impression that I could only pardon lynches voted on by the town. Either way I probably would've let it go though. Inactive people don't help town anyways. (Not to mention there was no real announcement for me to stop him) However, I am of the opinion that lynching is almost always better, so I will really have to be convinced to pardon someone. Grats to ace, cant say I'm not a little upset, but you put more work into this than I have so its all good. On that note I know I said I would have time to spend on this game, but some family showed up for spring break so I will be busy entertaining. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:39 randombum wrote:Well I'm off to bed, its surprising ACE ffn it up. I hope we can create some good communication between us to help the team. If it helps I pardon him for his mis-used first lynch Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:57 randombum wrote:While I personally believe ace is townie, I've had a thought recently about how we shouldn't send in roles yet. No DTs speaking up is a good sign. But I've recently gotten a PM from a supposed DT who did NOT check ace's validity. I think perhaps we should spend some time to make sure theDts have had time to actually check him. (As in some of them did not scan ace thinking others will, but if one DT scanned someone else maybe more did.) Also as to no BGs speaking up this does not mean his plan has worked. Ace was given a list of people, and if even ONE of those people are inactive his plan fails (If he is mafia he can change it). By taking an inactive BG off the list and putting in a mafia he can trick the BGs into thinking that ace is clean when he might not be so none of the BGs will speak up. Like I said I think he is townie, but we should take some time to make sure that he actually is. For either inactive DTs or BGs to do their job or until chuiu takes out inactive. We have a lot more town than mafia, we can wait another 24 hours or so at least. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:35 randombum wrote:I just voted for ace suckers. Ace you better have a plan or else my vote will stay on you. Mwahahahahaahahha! JK I will obviously change it when we are given our target. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:53 randombum wrote:I voted. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:36 randombum wrote: As a vigilante last game I asked chuiu similar questions and here are the responses I got. The mafias kill count will not be affected that night, so yes the mafias target will still die. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey quick question, when a vigilante correctly and kills a mafia, does that mafia's target still die? Depends on who's hits I get in first. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thanks, how about the opposite? If I use my vigilante kills and the mafia kill me. Do my targets still die? Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote: Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:01 randombum wrote:Y disable me? I'm only pardoner the person who will be lynched will likely be mafia. Y would they want to prevent me from saving him if I were so inclined? Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:10 randombum wrote:yes pangolin. its in the op Saboteur - The saboteur is a special mafia role, he may disable one players abilities once a day/night cycle (excluding the right to vote). Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night. You may not use this on the mayor election lynch and only the player whose abilities are disabled will be informed of the action. You may not use this role on the same person two consecutive day/nights in a row. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:54 randombum wrote: I have no more information than the rest of you greens. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 11:00 randombum wrote: Because new people will be voting so they will still need to check both groups. Unless all mafia are accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:40 randombum wrote:Hmmm quite a few accusations of me. To clear the air I would recommend dts to reference those clues towards me and If I'm the bum its pointing at then lynch me. If its not then bumatlarge must be looked at. Posted in night7/main_page.151 Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:59 randombum wrote:I wonder how many of showtime's post are in this thread alone. I've seen like 5 every page for the last 5 pagse. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:14 randombum wrote:I got it ace. You double lynch I'll pardon ghar. Chuiu never changed OP to say how many we had. We have X number, and we all know X means unlimited. So do it!! Posted in night7/main_page.158 Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:53 randombum wrote:LOL whoops chuiu, I was only reading the descriptions of mayor/pardoner, and they said X number so i figured you would change them too. Nevermind to my pardoning then I vote to lynch both ghar and wurm. More information is a good thing regardless of if they are mafia/townie. True mafia is preferred, but mafia suspects or detrimental townies should get lynched. The quicker we find out true townies/mafia the less townies the mafia have killed before we lynch them, and the less power they have because some are lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:55 randombum wrote:It's not like I'm involved in the townie's defense system. I am simply one of the cogs who vote when told to. Don't waste a rolecheck on me. Just clue check me vs the bum clue. Its either me or bumatlarge. Its not like I handle any more information than the average green anyways. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:14 randombum wrote:I was wondering if I should have revealed I knew about dinmsab's role, but I guess since you bring it up it's irrelevant. If I was mafia wouldn't he have died the next day? I'm pretty sure killing a dt (arguably the town's most useful role) is worth 1 mafia, if I was mafia that is. Once again I ask that you guys just clue/role check me vs the bum clues, it will be quite evident if I'm the bum. To reiterate, CHECK THE CLUES AGAINST ME. Rather simple, I don't want to be lynched because I knew somebody's role. I mean ace knows all the roles.... (and there have been 6 blue deaths.) Granted he's likely also a townie, but once the check turns me up as townie I hope I won't have to suffer for getting a position thats not even useful. I mean, I likely won't pardon anyone unless right at the last second ace gets pushed into getting lynched or something. I mean if you guys want to lynch another innocent townie then don't bother checking me and just lynch me too Also, it's possible dinmsab was just good luck, I mean they killed a whole bunch of random townies that day. I hope this doesn't get lost amongst showtime's many posts per page. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:02 randombum wrote:Man finally free, going to catch up on this thread now, looks like a lot of things have been happening. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:20 randombum wrote: A lot of people (At least me personally) are checking the thread and reading it. But we don't want to take the time to go though deciphering clues, or put out accusations that we will have to defend and support. There are a lot of reasons for this, and for me personally it was my lack of involvement in the important decisions. Anything I say puts me at risk, and I may not be right or listened to. So yea, people might just be reading it and not bothering to post until their life is in danger. Too many townies are willing to take a spectator seat in this game. Also, I thought we had the game in the bag with the dt # system, but since we are counting only on clues now I will probably start contributing my thoughts. Especially since I'm safe from mafia. So far all I've got is that plexa and MTF seem like they are smart and should be protected. | ||
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17. randombum (Pardoner) Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 03:12 randombum wrote:I'm surprised I still have some suspicions, thats fine I guess this whole game is about suspicions. Personally I'm against lynching L because we have as much information on other mafia suspects, and these suspects don't have a chance of being a blue (regardless how small, I mean ace has made mistakes, he may be wrong again). Just a quick thing to point out, while L in the manga/anime fits enigma somewhat, he was definitely NOT ugly. At least not hideous, out of the two main characters 1 was actually considered hot (He was super popular and all the girls admired his looks.) And scorch, the person who made that sign of me was falcynn, who is likely not mafia, so "a pretty cool guy" wouldn't point at me regardless.I am in support of ace's newest post of Ninja/dragoon/damage (Not so much, seems rather forced upon him) along with plexa's newest findings I think we are moving in a great direction, and we probably have a list of at least 1/2 the remaining mafia (I'm sure ace has more). Also, I want to point out that we are finding clues to point at people because we want to, we should look at clues and apply them to people instead of choosing people and applying clues to them. I hope that made sense. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 11:35 randombum wrote:Nightmare I haven't been active because I have had nothing to real contribute. I'm not used to clue analysis since all my mafia games have been based of of the players actions and voting patterns (in which case I would be suspicious of me too, but I wouldn't advocate lynching me.). The only time I come back is if I have something to say that is not really clue analysis. As to your points, even IF the mafia did try to get me into office wouldn't I have gotten it? I mean there are 20 mafia (19 if you suspect me) who could vote for me, yet I only had 28 votes total. Furthermore, just because the pattern at the moment seems like mafia wanted me as mayor it doesn't conclude with me as mafia myself. They probably did not want Ace as mayor since he seems like he had a lot of experience and would be a better mayor. (just a guess) Besides, its not like I need to be active anyways. There are 70 townies left, we have over 10 days to lynch the mafia. This does not include their kill power going down with each lynch. If we get 2 mafia today it will take 14 days before all us townies die. And seeing as there are only 14 left they still won't be able to control the vote for at LEAST 10 days even if we don't manage to lynch a single one of them in those 10 days. These overwhelming numbers is why I have cut time for this game. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:40 randombum wrote: I abstain Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:45 randombum wrote:Abstain - 3 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum LAWL it cant be 3 then list 4 names just an error you might want to change. (also pointless cause its abstain which is unimportant.) <-- (the ) Edit) Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:02 randombum wrote: What a coincidence, so did I. I also didn't put the town in danger by claiming roles. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 14:34 randombum wrote:I vote for ACE!!!! Its more fun this way. If I remember to change it I will (same as abstaining). If not I should be the only dude voting ace anyways. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 15:17 randombum wrote:Actually, thinking about it I'm going to just abstain. It wouldn't due good for the mafia to use my fake vote on ace to stir up trouble between us. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:52 randombum wrote:If its confirmed then I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:13 randombum wrote: I'm pretty sure voting like that doesn't count make sure you change it. I vote for Wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 03:01 randombum wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 08:37 randombum wrote:I'll Abstain since it seems either way its a dead mafia. (with crazie a safer bet but hes lynched anyways.) + Show Spoiler [rpf] + 130. rpf Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:33 rpf wrote:I didn't play before, but I'd like to play this time. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 rpf wrote:What do you guys mean when you say you're going to "lynch a lurker"? I didn't play last round so I'm a little lost. T_T Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:Ah, that makes sense. So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:17 rpf wrote: I haven't played before, and I'm sure as fuck not reading 72 pages of this thread to figure it out. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 01:06 rpf wrote:I vote for ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 18:29 rpf wrote:I vote for zeks. Posted in night7/vote2_page.009 On March 25 2008 06:23 rpf wrote:Fuck! I came back to change my vote, but I missed the deadline. I had no internet all weekend until about 20 minutes ago. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:57 rpf wrote:I abstain from both votes. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 06 2008 00:39 rpf wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. + Show Spoiler [smurfingchobo] + 45. smurfingchobo Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 09:13 smurfingchobo wrote:Can't wait. I hope more people are active on this one. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:41 smurfingchobo wrote: Can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 21:32 smurfingchobo wrote:Wow. Got lots of pages to read up on. Can't believe Inc is dead. Shame we didn't get to see what advantage the Mad Hatter played Btw, was Inc's lynch just a random pick or was there a reason? Guess I'll read through some pages and see if I can find my answer. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 20:11 smurfingchobo wrote:Posting as well since I haven't had time to read through all the pages yet. Will hopefully get it done by the weekend. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:39 smurfingchobo wrote:1 down, 19 to go. You rock, Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:44 smurfingchobo wrote:People who abstained should vote for who, Ace? I know you said to vote for whoever but do you have anyone in particular? (I actually voted last time but it didn't count because I edited my post instead of making a new one) Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 05:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I actually voted in Day 2, but it wasn't credited due to me editing my post instead of making a new one. I wasn't actively reading at the start when people were voting for Mayor and stuff so I didn't get to vote. I've made only a few posts, I admit, but it's only because I don't really have anything to say. Also, when I do find something that intrigues me, I find someone already posted about it. I'll try to be more active from now on but with Plexa interpreting the clues so amazingly, I don't really know how much I'd be able to contribute (besides voting). Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 20:45 smurfingchobo wrote:I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:51 smurfingchobo wrote:I edited my post a few hours ago, Chuiu. Post is here: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68352¤tpage=4#69 For future reference; Am I supposed to edit my previous post or make a new post stating that I want to change my vote? Thanks. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 16:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for KH1031 My second vote Klive5ive (Just some random votes for now since Ace said vote for anyone) Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:08 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 05:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote Evilmonkey My second vote for Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 12:54 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:25 smurfingchobo wrote:I change my vote from L to Crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [spoinka] + 93. spoinka Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 18:37 spoinka wrote:morning fellow liquidians! ok , so far araav seems to be a trustworthy mayor in my eyes.i mean no mafia would bother writing a script to fetch all the profiles (not even the most dedicated mafia with a super evil masterplan). only flaw is that he didnt post a real strategy yet.only the common "i will be a good mayor , i hate fakesteve etc." stuff. ghars plan is looking solid on the first view although it probably has its flaws somewhere.it seems the whole strategy is too "fixed" and inflexibel.it could totally backfire if the mafia finds a counter to it and we are screwed. dont have enough info on the other candidates yet to make up my mind... Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:19 spoinka wrote:yea you are kinda blackmailing us with revealing your role Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:02 spoinka wrote:ace seems to be quite experienced player and his start-up plan combined with his other posts so far make me believe he would be a good mayor. im gonna vote for him now Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:38 spoinka wrote: i really think its too early to just concentracte on those 4? not even 50% of liquidia has voted yet :D Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:54 spoinka wrote:btw. did Chuiu say something about day/night length? and time till the mayor election is open? Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:55 spoinka wrote:oh sht im blind Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:07 spoinka wrote:i want day now . Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:39 spoinka wrote: one of the most suspicious post ive seen in this round so far edit:joking? Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:44 spoinka wrote:haha , actually 3 people owned your ninja edit Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 21:06 spoinka wrote:i think its too early to make accusations based on the 1st victims/killing-pattern of the mafia. just imagine you were mafia and some townie interprets some clues that point to you/someothermafia you would not go and kill him the 1st possible night.that would be just too obvious.you would rather kill random townies or townies who were on the wrong track to spread even more confusion in town. ofcouse this only applies at that early stage of the game. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:03 spoinka wrote:ok ive been reading up the last ~60 pages (been away a few days). but i just dont get what happened in the "blue" chat channel..araav found a way in there and joined?and all of our blue guys were sitting their with their real forum nicks?means the game is pretty much over if he is mafia? *totally confused* Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:58 spoinka wrote:I VOTE FOR ACE + Show Spoiler [str] + 44. str Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:36 str wrote:so my exams are over, lets see how long it takes for me to catch up on 127 pages of wild accusations + Show Spoiler [suresh0t] + 97. suresh0t Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:05 suresh0t wrote:I posted my thoughts in a blog because it was long and in response to two other peoples thoughts... CLICK HERE Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:06 suresh0t wrote:also if that is against the rules i will post it here as well... I'm not completely sure if it is ok to post in a blog as opposed to in the actual forum. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:51 suresh0t wrote:double lynches in the hands of a mafia mayor are just as effective as in the hands of non mafia. it's more likely that he got roleblocked because he is a non mafia, but that leaves open the two step ahead area. I'll go ahead and assume he isn't mafia until I'm told otherwise from a reliable source. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:48 suresh0t wrote:I would guess it was a vigi kill on shadwdrgn, Max doesn't really fit the mafia code names and neither does his style of killing and he was alone etc etc. I'm saying this so we don't go trying to lynch whoever comes up on the clues for that one, the mafia already would know that they didn't kill him if it was a vigi kill etc. THREE BLUES WTF :-(. That is bad manner mafia, i hope we burn 2 before nightfall! Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:53 suresh0t wrote:I'm sorry but Max doesn't fit Pangolin...look at how he killed him. All mafia have been in groups. Max is a Vigi! Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:51 suresh0t wrote:no dinmsab! :-( <3 Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:53 suresh0t wrote:Oh also if Ace can tell us if there are any other Vigi kills, because if there isn't then we have all 20 names for the mafia with the extra 1 which is Max the Vigi. I'm assuming that isn't to much info to reveal. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:01 suresh0t wrote:That is the only vigi kill right? Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:08 suresh0t wrote: So that is our Mafia Name list in full...maybe we should try to pinpoint which one was mandalor and then we can cross him out etc. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:46 suresh0t wrote:this is not kosher...a blue and a green!? WHERE IS THE MOFUCKING RED :-(. I hopes some vigis have good targets tonight >_< Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:47 suresh0t wrote:ps does this mean we are at least a little closer to discovering the fake medic? Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:36 suresh0t wrote:ah finally i'm a suspect ish...i was getting bored of doing nothing but trying to interpret clues, now i'll get to play defense? well no i don't play defense, you all think what you want about the clues... As for Mr. Orange if all you got to go on is tools, and the fact that it was Mr. Pink who used the skull like a "hammer" as I'm thinking where the connection is, is quite loose. But, to each his own. Camilto, I think I've been your only suspect this entire time, did i rape your sister or something in a past life? :-) good hunting town, hopefully the voting clarifies some stuff, but i don't see that shedding any light for a few more days. It was a rough day of lynches but if we stick to the plan I think we'll get back on track. Here's hoping the Mafia miss the blues this night cycle <3. Time for bed Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 03:09 suresh0t wrote:cooperate or get lynched...sweet. I'll take that bet...how indepth does it have to be. Is it like just a list or a list and reasoning? And where do I post it or PM it? Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 05:01 suresh0t wrote:Lynch me so I don't don't have to respond to the this thread anymore! Green townie = boring Green Townie being suspected of Red = funny But hey I can't blame anyone, I don't know how the system works though. Is every mafia related only to one "name" or are the clues spread out and the same person could have clues related to multiple mafia "names". Because it seems that I'm being connected to multiple attackers...which is cool, but if it goes only by being connected to one mafia "name" then it doesn't make sense. The nail clue works for me, go with it lynch me but when I come up green don't be bitchin to me ;-). I got bored after my first write up on day 1 and the strats that were going around to the fun out of the game. Now with these DTs dead (which blows but is going to make the game more interesting for townies) the fun is about to begin. If you want to use our now so important lynches or vigi kills on the nail clue go for it. It's a much stronger clue against me than the other ridiculous ones before. (considering day 3 I was linked to the guy who deals with all the electric stuff because I was around tools) Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 00:57 suresh0t wrote:You both are productive members of this town, therefore neither of you could possibly mafia ... oh the sarcasm burns >_< Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 12:43 suresh0t wrote:Ok just so I know what I'm dealing with...someone list the clues and the mafia name that I'm supposed to be. I want to see what you few people who have me as a suspect are looking at. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:05 suresh0t wrote:No more detectives and a Jack on the fritz . I'm a little perplexed by the whole numbers thing and L as well. I can see how it would be a major clue if the facts lined up, but we can't just add numbers and leave numbers out when we feel like it. I'm defending someone who is a suspect for the same clue as me...hmm I'm bad at this mafia strategy thing apparently. But I see this as a stretch just the same as it being a clue against me as a stretch. If is mafia then I guess I will deserve a big "I Told You" from you guys. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:11 suresh0t wrote:PS. I think anyone who votes should put their reasoning included with their vote or in this thread. No more I'm voting for ( "" ) because he upset me. I want to see real reasoning and concrete reasoning at that. You would think by now we would have learned not to go lynching people on loose clues that may not even add up. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:48 suresh0t wrote:I don't come out of nowhere to defend myself. I've posted my thoughts and blogged about clues etc. I followed Aces voting request then I ended up abstaining from the last vote because I thought Ace was going to notify me who to vote for to stick with the plan. I was offline a bit and came back and there were still no requests from Ace telling me who to vote for. So I'm not trying to lie low. I've got a whole notepad full of thoughts and clues that I'm keeping track of and when I find an 80% + guilty in my mind I will share. Thus far clues have been spread out and it's hard to narrow down to a suspect, and without DT help and Ace helping all we can do is sit back and wait for enough clues to line up on one person. Why start putting suspects out in the open and setting yourself up to be killed if you are on the right track or being wrong and possibly getting a townie lynched. I can sit back and think and vote and make some comments and thoughts on peoples opinions of clues while I have my own detective work going, then when I have a really good candidate, I could PM Ace and tell him and let him relay it to the town. If I die now because of this I will not be happy, but I'd rather the mafia kill me than be lynched by my own fucking townies! If you want to lynch me for, in my opinion, to blatant a clue in the whole being a Sure Shot, you can't lynch me for the nails. They are connected to different mafia. Sure Shot = The Wolf Nails = Cottonmouth You could connect the apologizing to my sig. That goes with the Wolf as well. So as far as The Wolf goes you have a - Efficient killer - Apologetic (either really sorry for turning on his brethren or a fake apology like you said) Or you could go with the nail route and lynch me as Cottonmouth because he used nails to kill someone. Even though I don't fit with anything else that goes with him. I'm not calling anyone stupid or retarded for their clue interpretations, just putting my two cents in. We need all the townies we can get alive, and we really need to lynch 2 mafia to catch up from the blunder of losing all our DTs. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:06 suresh0t wrote: So let me summarize on top of your summarization? ;-) 1) Doesn't miss Seems a bit blatant but ok 2) The Sig Similar but not VERY SIMILAR. In my opinion Wolf is sincerely apologizing for betraying his brethren, not being sarcastic and apologizing for not believing in God haha. 3) Nails go to Cottonmouth. Yes Wolf used a nail to kill, but he didn't bring them into the scenario, he just used what was available. I would even go so far as to call Wolf resourceful more than a sure shot. He uses things that are around him when he kills, and he is very efficient. 4) Yes I'm on the Mandalor list. So yes I am a 25% chance to be mafia or whatever. So is everyone else on that list. 5) If you notice I'm a light poster in general. It's not like I went from 200 posts a day to 5 posts. I only come out and say anything when I am bored or find something interesting, or if I need to at least attempt to clear my name, which is apparently damning in and of itself. I don't know what you expect when you start talking about lynching someone, but I think speaking up and saying something is a trait of both a townie and a mafia. Like I said I was trying to stick with Ace's voting thing. I followed it on day 3 and then I abstained and waited for Ace to clarify what he wanted to do, and then just didn't vote because well, it was clear who was getting lynched. Sorry for being lazy. I know I already posted something about this but I wanted to reiterate and make it more compact in case you all didn't feel like reading my other post. SO I'LL REITERATE MY THOUGHTS ON WOLF AND HIS TRAITS - Efficient - Resourceful - Loyal to the majority (he is sorry for betraying but stays the course with the other mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:10 suresh0t wrote: He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. If you look there were five of them on the ground, in my opinion placed there to get Empy to investigate them. As he bent down Cottonmouth stabbed him with a nail, then stabbed 6 more in him. This means Cottonmouth was carrying them. He didn't just pick them up off the ground. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:21 suresh0t wrote:qrs and pink I want to hear your thoughts since you still have me as your number 1 suspect. you have seemingly ignored my posts...clever ;-). Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:27 suresh0t wrote:i said there is a connection between the whole him being very accurate and my name suresh0t, that's pretty much all you got. You didn't respond to my take on the nails at all, you are just avoiding. If you want to lynch me on one connection then it's your loss I guess. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:31 suresh0t wrote:fuck it going to play dota and ignoring the rest of this shit, have fun lynching townies ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 14 2008 23:32 suresh0t wrote: This doesn't make me innocent but if BlindAlbino is mafia then he was being a dick if I was mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 00:10 suresh0t wrote:Guess he just likes to bandwagon. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:52 suresh0t wrote:My prediction...MidnightGladius comes up GREEN Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:26 suresh0t wrote:I'm just making predictions! I'm like the Dick Vitale of Mafia bitches! Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:31 suresh0t wrote:I also missed why it's either MTF or Gladius...does that mean if Gladius is green we have to lynch MTF? Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:35 suresh0t wrote:oh I just thought it was already stated and didn't want to go find it due to me being lazy Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 13:22 suresh0t wrote:WHEN IS DAY! THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 03:37 suresh0t wrote: I don't owe you one if you die, I already said I think you'll come up green if you do die . Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 04:40 suresh0t wrote:Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc. I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 04:43 suresh0t wrote:Pshh I want some daylight to shed some light on how we are shaping up! As opposed to taking wild theories like mine above for entertainment purposes O_o Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:49 suresh0t wrote: at least blind was red, not that it was really debated. so what does this mean for MTF since Gladius is green? Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:11 suresh0t wrote:Yeah we should probably make sure we are relatively sure L is mafia and not actually another medic. We (the town) don't want to be responsible for 3 medic deaths, we're basically doing the Mafias job for them. That being said, I still trust the judgment of Ace and seeing as we don't have any other way to check L out, I will let him decide on what to do, since he is the only one holding the cards for the town. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:12 suresh0t wrote: Just curious how this would effect anything? Posted in night7/main_page.235 Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:32 suresh0t wrote:seems like all the talkers have been slaughtered by le mafia O_o Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 16:26 suresh0t wrote:in costa rica right now, won't message much so please lynch me so i don't have to waste vacation time looking at this Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 18:51 suresh0t wrote:I Vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 02:59 suresh0t wrote:I will abstain from voting, haven't had time to process all the clues for day 2 and am busy til late tomorrow so hopefully I will still have time by then to vote. However it wouldn't be fair to anyone if I voted for them without actually reading through everything. I noticed I have 2 votes so I guess there must be something interesting to read that points to me...I don't think I've had time to piss anyone off yet Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:51 suresh0t wrote:I change my abstain to a vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:50 suresh0t wrote:I vote wurm...I think he was suspect #1 Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 06:18 suresh0t wrote:abstain for the time being. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:12 suresh0t wrote:Vote 1 - Siefu Vote 2 - Evilmonkey Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 00:36 suresh0t wrote:First Vote: L Second Vote: Ulszz + Show Spoiler [ulszz] + 19. ulszz Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 ulszz wrote:sweet Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:38 ulszz wrote:so many people xD this will be epic Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 09:06 ulszz wrote:Can't wait, hopefully I get a role this time :D! Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 00:09 ulszz wrote:just gotta wait... Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 13:23 ulszz wrote:I vote Showtime! + Show Spoiler [unsoundlogic] + 94. unsoundlogic Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:40 unsoundlogic wrote:How do we really know that empyrean is a detective if he is voted mayor? If he is mafia, he can easily dodge background checks by detectives. I'm assuming that you can't just ask (as a detective) if the elected mayor is mafia, because then wtf did the townies do last time... If empyrean is mafia and he is elected, he can fake "detective findings" because he knows the exact number of mafia that did X, seeing as he is mafia. This would through detectives off, and the only way to make sure that empyrean would be helping us is to use 1 detective solely to double-check empyrean everytime he makes a "detective findings" post. This ultimately results in a tied up detective (though it would still be nice to have public findings), or a mafia that can double lynch. Not good. Also, I'm against lynching on the first day after mayoral elections. We just don't know enough stuff to lynch anyone, and it doesn't hurt us at this point because the killing power doesn't decrease. BTW, ignore my handle -_-;;;; Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:53 unsoundlogic wrote: Oh....well I'm voting for him anyways because I figured the benefits were better than the costs. ^^;;; Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:28 unsoundlogic wrote:If you think about it from the mafia POV, they tie up the saboteur on empyrean every time. With 3 other detectives, you can still find out who voted for the major lynch candidates (2-3), and maybe even have room to target specific people. That, and vigilantes and other powerful townies are free to rape. Empyrean can be verified once as mafia or not, and he can give public information gathered by other dts and PMed to him, without revealing the identities of the other dts. If he is mayor or pardoner, he is protected and can still post what other dts send him. He'd become kind of a public announcer person that can give data that townies normally wouldnt get w/o a dt. As long as empyrean gets a protected role and is dt, then we get a huge advantage. Edit:I would like to reiterate my opinion that we/mayor should NOT lynch anyone once mayor is elected, since the clues we get at the start are too weak, and we are not hurting mafia killing power any. Once the night is over, then we should have enough info to get some mafia hung. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:57 unsoundlogic wrote:The reason mafia would pose as vets is because the vets extra lives ability hurts the mafia a lot. The easiest way to get rid of veterans is to get them lynched, which makes the lives ability useless. What better way to do so than pose as a veteran and cause confusion? Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:04 unsoundlogic wrote: It makes sense to me O: EDIT: I really need a name change T_T Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 01:00 unsoundlogic wrote:WHOOOO My good name is cleared! :DD There needs to be more town activity though, that vote count was kinda low. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:42 unsoundlogic wrote:Despite my post in the main thread, I vote for empyrean because guaranteed public info on mafia is sexy :D. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:39 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. ACE FIGHTING Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 08:59 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for wurm, abstain for second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 08:37 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for Trancestorm Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 10:00 unsoundlogic wrote:Not gonna bandwagon on this one! ... I vote for L and ulszz. + Show Spoiler [useLess] + 115. useLess Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:51 useLess wrote:Holy shit, thats a lot of people. Im down Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:16 useLess wrote:Goddamn, there should be a new thread for each day. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:47 useLess wrote:XD incontrol died already Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:38 useLess wrote:Unless its big name townies to demoralize us! Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:25 useLess wrote:Seriously, the other Mad Hatter and a Jack? :| Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:55 useLess wrote:Huh, so a mafia member was actually lynched this early Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:03 useLess wrote:Goddamn - Detective, Paramedic, and a bodyguard? Thats so much. Then I realize theres liek 30 blues out of 110 townies. But still. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:44 useLess wrote:Wow, TWO Detectives. Whatre the odds... Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:03 useLess wrote:Maybe the mafia killed zero and all the deaths were from our paranoia. Twilight Zone, anyone? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:12 useLess wrote:Oh, Queasy was at the bottom; I didnt know we got one. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:09 useLess wrote: I was gone that weekend, and by the time I got back, the votes had been tallied already. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:48 useLess wrote: @ Day 3 votes : @ TLA 5 @ iccup TSL-useLess Registered: 01 Apr 2008 Im following the posts over at "List of important mafia posts" since its quicker for me, but that hasnt been updated in a week. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:55 useLess wrote:Seriously, getting all 4 detectives in 5 days cant be luck or chance. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:59 useLess wrote: whoops, corrected. medic was in my head while i was reading about the suicide bomber's role Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 06:55 useLess wrote:Going with Plexa's analysis on this one. Posted in night7/main_page.223 Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:36 useLess wrote:yikes, 3 blues out of 5 townies. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:52 useLess wrote: no, the voting is still open. what Chuiu posted was just a running tally. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:10 useLess wrote:hachacha, does this mean we're going for L next? Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:00 useLess wrote:I vote for Ace for Mayor Ive only had a few minutes atm to peruse the main topic, but Ace seems like he knows what hes doing to an extent. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 04:23 useLess wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:31 useLess wrote:What is Day 3.5? Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 06:50 useLess wrote:I abstain for now. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 06:56 useLess wrote:I vote for EvilMonkey (first vote) I vote for Seifu (second vote) Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 06:26 useLess wrote:I vote for Crazie-Penguin + Show Spoiler [wurm] + 32. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:44 wurm wrote:Alright. This should be awesome. Let's get it on! Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:14 wurm wrote:omg, 10 pages of bickering. I quit halfway through. Thank god for Falcynn's blog. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:24 wurm wrote:Either way, Empyrean just wasted one Detective (the one to check him out obviously). Sonuvbob, I played in the first game and i thought it was hilarious that FakeSteve was elected mayor. You promising to be less of a douche than FakeSteve had me sold. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 17:01 wurm wrote: or Showtime. I don't agree with the "LET'S LYNCH THE LURKERS" movement. I want to be active (i.e. post more) but I don't agree with a lot of the discussion that happens. If I voice my opinion, it would be more like "OMG he disagrees, MAFIA!". since the majority of you are already set on your plans. Plus, the thread moves way too fast because of all the bickering and trolling. oh and lol at lynching inc. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:41 wurm wrote: lol. OP post is there for a reason. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:16 wurm wrote: Holy shit, didn't know God was playing. Who's side is he on? Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:39 wurm wrote:lol. hey hey hey.. pretty soon i won't be a drone. Hopefully.. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:20 wurm wrote: uh.. Why would the mob hit be based on clues for the townies? I do agree though, with the snakes=geographical locations. it somehow makes sense. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:26 wurm wrote:so... yeah. We're voting somebody inactive again. and we have a good record for lynching inactive people (1 blue, no red). Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:48 wurm wrote:Oh wow..1/1 lynching. Seems I underestimated Ace. OR maybe Ace is mafia and his first lynch should be mafia in order to gain the town's trust? OR I underestimated Ace. Nice one. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:19 wurm wrote:lol im a suspect. First point: I abstained from voting because, at the beginning, i didn't really like the way you handled things. Now that Mandalor was proven to be Mafia, i'm beginning to like you as Mayor. Second point: I, along with a few others, don't like your system of finding Mafia. Yes, it does work, but it's not my cup of tea. Last game was quite addicting considering townies lost, but it was still addicting. Besides, you already have a mob of followers so my one vote obviously won't make a difference seeing as Day voting was 70+ for Mandalor and only 7 for Ghar. So yeah, I kinda like doing my own thing. Funny how doing this = mafioso. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:31 wurm wrote: So... hard... to... choose. Seriously though, just because i didn't pm a role to Ace isn't exactly concrete evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:41 wurm wrote:Damn, guess i deleted my other sentence in that 2nd paragraph. Basically, it's just wait for the detectives and Ace find out who's mafia and let us townies throw all our votes at that one guy! Really takes away from the game, especially for a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:47 wurm wrote: oh yeah, and before somebody calls me out for not defending myself: Ace gave out the word. The legion will vote. and i don't feel like explaining my actions either. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:49 wurm wrote: Then you just lost a medic. a medic who went 1/1 on the first night. Seems like I am good at analyzing who the mafia will hit, huh? Before that vigilante will lynch me, i'm pretty sure i can make it 2/2 since i already sent in my save to Chuiu. but who knows? Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 17:53 wurm wrote:Alrighty then. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 17:59 wurm wrote:Sure ,after you and I revealed that i was medic, there's a big possibility that I will be lynched. Seeing as how the other "medic" who saved Falcynn claims to be just that, the mafia is sure now that I am the other medic who saved him. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:03 wurm wrote:Alrighty then. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:18 wurm wrote: im basically done for. if town doesn't do it, mafia will. so, i really don't see the point. but just for kicks, i'll do it.... eventually. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:20 wurm wrote: lol. blackmail. well, hey! im not #1 anymore. haha.. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:28 wurm wrote: Chuiu came up with this way before I started posting actively(which is now), so i don't really think that clue points to me. I kinda see it pointing to L, in a "too obvious - it can never be him" kind of way. but what do I know? I would be doing that but i didn't want to be in the mafia spotlight, since i kinda like saving people. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 20:37 wurm wrote: Actually it was one other "medic". Seeing as I was the one who lurked, naturally, I was suspected. So by logic, if there were 2 medics, and only one hit against X, and i have basically proved my point and have people on my side, why not investigate the other "medic". It's kinda funny that I was the one suspected. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:50 wurm wrote:Showtime!, at least get it right, boy. It's FILIPINO, not PILIPINO. Jesus. Funny how you got the PM that said I was innocent and not me. Posted in night7/main_page.137 Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 26 2008 00:00 wurm wrote:How long do we got 'til Day? Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 00:28 wurm wrote: Sweet, 00:00. 33 minutes til midnight over here. I'm going to get some sleep since Day post will be in 12 hours or so. Have fun deciding whether i'm still innocent or not. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 21:33 wurm wrote: I can't wait. edit: oh yeah, in before "OMG WTF MAFIA!" posts. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:14 wurm wrote:lol. i knew i would live. Mafia is too smart to lynch me, since basically everybody knows im a blue, but still a suspect. Let the town do the lynching for the mafia. Anyways im really suspecting Chezinu now. He's been trying to pin something down on me since Day 1, and fortunately he got "something" to link me to in the day post. Day 1 Chezinu pm'd me something about forming a "Townie Group" but it seems like I was the only one he contacted, besides Alventenie I believe. If anybody here got a pm from Chezinu regarding forming a "Townie Group" i'd love to hear about it, since I believe that he is just trying to pin me in as a member of the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:23 wurm wrote: omfg, this is the clue that Chezinu and Showtime! linked me to? HAHAHAHAHA.. woo.. i needed a good laugh. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:37 wurm wrote: I think it goes something like, 7 medics reported in, but i didn't since i refused to. So yeah. I was suspected. Also, does anybody have any clues on the "Eddie" character? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:47 wurm wrote: Yeah, i know. But it seems like you guys are getting desperate to link me to something im not a part of.. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:04 wurm wrote: oh you've got to be kidding me. Why in the blue hells would i ask your role? I was perfectly happy staying in the background protecting people I believed would be hit, and you go out spreading lies like that? Please I DARE YOU TO POST THE PM WHERE I "SUPPOSEDLY" ASKED YOUR ROLE. oh yeah, about how many minutes in paint will it take for you to change all my pm's to "Hi, about your role in the game?" EDIT: It's a good thing i don't delete sent messages, since I have only sent you 3 pm's. None of which has me asking what role you have. Posted in night7/main_page.155 Posted in night7/main_page.156 Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:43 wurm wrote:lol. im dead come day. Here comes the sun.. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:56 wurm wrote:I don't see how i'm still a suspect. Mafia didn't target me when you revealed the medic problem to keep their own "medic" in the ranks. and I still don't see how I am the "fake" medic, is it all because I refused to be part of the plan? The "fake" medic can easily say "Hey, I protected this guy." The "guy" being a fellow mafia then those 2 pm'ing the "save" to you. but then again, what do I know? me being the fake medic and all. meh, none of you have to answer that. I believe Chuiu said the update would come today(or tomorrow), so i'm not going to be surprised to find my name crossed off the OP list when i wake up tomorrow. G'luck townies. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:22 wurm wrote: From the voting topic. You're going to wait a very long time. Posted in night7/main_page.161 Posted in night7/main_page.161 Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:50 wurm wrote:lol Whine much? Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:58 wurm wrote:To tell the truth I don't really care at all what the hell you guys are doing. I'm slated to die so I can just do whatever I want. and remember, it's just a game. No need to taking to insults and the such. You know who you are. You guys take it so damn personally. it's amusing to say the least. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:04 wurm wrote:hahaha.. now you guys really know there is a fake medic in your ranks. hahahaha... no, no, just remember. i'm the 7th medic. 7 medics reported. im assuming the "fake" medic was given access to the chatroom. "fake" medic tells fellow mafioso, boom, infiltrated. I don't see how this can be cause for stopping the game. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:15 wurm wrote: I never asked nor did i want to know the channel. neither did i know that a channel existed. but you see, he did not give EVERY medic access. Check up on those you've given access to. If you have no other proof besides their "word", then i suspect mafioso. but if this isn't the case. whatever, let Chuiu decide. EDIT: Chezinu, your pm's are getting annoying. Please stop. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:22 wurm wrote:it would be funny if the game got scrapped just because a mafioso successfully infiltrated the town ranks, posing as a blue. i'm about to go to class, guess i'll just catch up on the drama later. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 17:41 wurm wrote:lol. YEAH! game continues. Lay down the law Chuiu. well, my vote is down for Showtime. Anybody else wanna follow suit? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 20:36 wurm wrote: I was way ahead of you. I mean sure first hit was mafia, now double lynch will hit a maximum of 1 mafioso, seeing as how i'm innocent and all. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 21:23 wurm wrote:What was I supposed to be fazed about again? Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:18 wurm wrote: careful, comments like that can get you lynched. i should know.. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 20:30 wurm wrote:I vote for Sonuvbob Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:19 wurm wrote:I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 16:30 wurm wrote:I abstain... for now. Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 11:52 wurm wrote:First vote Ghar Second vote Showtime! + Show Spoiler [xDark.Carnivalx] + 108. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:wow long list of players. well reading it was entertaining so i think ill try my hand in playing, so sign me up please Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I'd like to point out that most likely the people who run for mayor in the first few hours after the day post may have a smaller chance of being mafia because if the mafia were to want one of theirs as mayor(or pardoner?) they'd take the time to get in contact with one another and figure out whom they want to run, and that would take a bit of time, or at least i think it would. that's just what i think may be the case IF mafia even want to run for mayor and assuming they work collectively to do that. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: Also... "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time" is Ghars quote; dapperdan was surrounded, or at least seemed to be, as he tried to make his escape. And of course, taipan snake is from australia. i haven't found any direct link of the word ghar and it's various meanings to any of that though, but anything that raises suspicous means it's probably best to stray away from that person as mayor. mafia or not, caution will weed out the incompetent mayors as well as the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i voted for araav ive looked through every profile, not extensively but enough to analyze them somewhat and put somethings in perspective for myself regarding who fits where. araav hasn't, in what i've looked at and read, shown reason to be suspected and has so far shown enough intiative and work to be a good mayor -- or at least one who won't fuck us over. also listing the info in one post is helpful for the town for quick references instead of going through every profile(as i did><, and i don't think any mafia would put effort into really helping out the town, even if their running for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:28 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: my vote for him was after having gone through all the profiles etc.(as i stated previously), and going through the candidates for mayor that are running so far, i was simply giving my reason for voting for him, not helping campaign for him. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: the problem with that is it was rather inefficient to send pms like that to everyone, and it wasn't a personal request; the time it took to send out the same pm to everyone seems to be the main reason people are even considering to vote for him, and that is a rather silly way to vote for the mayor. it would have been much simpler had he just announced his running for mayor in the thread, which points to him not being the best person for mayor. it's not only about who might be mafia, it's about who is best for the job. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 18:53 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:it will be interesting to see who will run for mayor later in the day when more people come online and post. my vote for araav is not concrete set in stone, as i am still looking for better candidates to vote for given the proper justification and reasoning, but as of now he is the best in my opinion. Ghar, although he has given good ideas and stratedgies, still has my hackles raised in suspicion over some of the clues pointing at him. i'm not saying he IS mafia, but i would rather be cautious and not vote for him then vote for him and have everything go to hell. edit to add in after reading your new post ace: i don't know if people are seriously voting based on his knowledge of c++ or whatever, but i know part of my voting for him is his intiative to list all of it in one easy to find post; it makes looking for quotes and things to relate to clues easier, and that benefits the town. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:17 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:have you looked through all the profiles? i have. it takes forever, there's over 100 people's profiles to look at, so having a siglist makes it much simpler and faster then clicking on every link. it's not sufficient reason to be made mayor, but it does benefit the town for those of us who take the clues and run through the list and try to make connections, and he took the intiative to do that which most mafia i don't think would. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:43 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i can't help but think that wasn't the best idea on your part too say you are a detective. either you aren't and are just a towny trying to get mayor by using a important role as leverage, or you are a mafia member trying to get votes for the same reason. if you really are a detective though, then you just put yourself into a risky situation as the mafia now have a target to go for. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:02 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:it would be very helpful having a detective mayor -- or pardoner. i think more votes need to be cast before we can discern really where to go with what empyrean revealed. it's almost going to force the town to vote for him on the chance he really is a detective, as losing a detective so early would be a big hurt on us. im thinking it may be better for him to be pardoner just because he made a bit of a rash decision to reveal his role, and may not be best suitted as a mayor, not that a pardoner is a unimportant role, but it would be better to have the best possible candidate we can vote on for mayor then someone forcing our hand because he revealed his role. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections... For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue. "He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead." - not much to go on but it semi-relates to suresh0t's name as sure shot may refer to being of good aim and 'back full of lead' relates to a gun, so gun and shooting = sureshot. not much... but something to take note of. Mr. Blonde - "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - maybe connection to G.s)Naruto, which naruto is an anime character who has blondehair(i think, unfornatunly i cant remember exactly?lol), and is a ninja, which ninja's are known to be stealthy which fits into 'coming out of nowhere' meaning wasn't expected. not much else really just that connection. also Ninja4ever may have some connection, but his quote iirc doesn't really fit much. Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things. Enigma - "An enigma is a puzzle, something mysterious or inexplicable, or a riddle or difficult problem." Siefu's quote is 'He walks among us, but he is not one of us' which may connect to someone mysterious, and the sentence sounds something of a riddle. Mr. Pink - "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" - BlindAblino may relate to this because blind people are cautious; but there isn't much else to go on though, perhaps albino can be connected with pink. Anyway that's what i have for now, i have other theories and connections but their more minor then these and will require further analysis before i can even consider making more then a small note on them. Again i'm not saying any of these people are mafia, i'm just pointing out what i found relating clues to them and perhaps other people will make similar connections. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:50 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 20:19 Caller wrote: "The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head." The Taipan Snake is from Australia. Who here is an Australian? As for the Wolf, it could be anything, but could it perhaps be a reference to a fairy tale, like Red Riding Hood or Peter and the Wolf? "Solemn but seeing a promising future" No idea what this means. "Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner" I'd presume it's somebody that's a leader at TL. "Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive" Maybe Ieatkids? No idea, but I'd presume it involves something with either blood or dogs. "Mr. Blue got in the last word" LastRomantic maybe? Or is that a bit obvious? The King Brown Snake, fyi, is the 2nd deadliest snake after the Taipan in Australia. Maybe we have 2 Australian Mafiaso? I'm thinking that perhaps the taipan snake is meant to throw us off and think it is in connection to australia, where it may be a connection to china? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai-Pan The King Brown Snake though probably still relates to australia is my guess. BloodyC0bbler may be connected with "Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive" but that's a bit too simple of a connection... and his quote doesn't really fit in with it i think, 'Sweet Water and Light Laughter' Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:12 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I'm not saying you are mafia, i've just gone through the clues and profiles and ive made certain connections, and you happen to have been one of those connections. you've had good ideas for the town which gives you credit, im just not happy with the idea of voting for someone that i've found clues relating too. it's to early in the game to say 'so and so is mafia' but its best to take into account certain connections to base voting off of. If anything empryean will most likely get quite a few of the votes now because him saying he's detective, the fear of losing a detective may cause people to vote for him. araav is a good candidate, maybe not the best, but as of now he seems to be what the town needs; and that may change as well. Your ideas though will defintly provide the town with direction when we do elect a mayor. sorry for posting so much so early in the game, i have sleeping problems so im usually up until mid-morning with nothing to do. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:19 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i think that's not the best of ideas, it's better to openly discuss in the thread so everyone can read ideas and get different perspectives on situations. keeping things hidden and in private leads too less organization which is what the last town lacked... Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: actually i noted your name while going through the list of profiles and clues, but basing suspicion off of just having 'pink' in your name isn't much to go on... here's some of the clues/connections i came up with earlier in the thread: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections... For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue. "He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead." - not much to go on but it semi-relates to suresh0t's name as sure shot may refer to being of good aim and 'back full of lead' relates to a gun, so gun and shooting = sureshot. not much... but something to take note of. Mr. Blonde - "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - maybe connection to G.s)Naruto, which naruto is an anime character who has blondehair(i think, unfornatunly i cant remember exactly?lol), and is a ninja, which ninja's are known to be stealthy which fits into 'coming out of nowhere' meaning wasn't expected. not much else really just that connection. also Ninja4ever may have some connection, but his quote iirc doesn't really fit much. Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things. Enigma - "An enigma is a puzzle, something mysterious or inexplicable, or a riddle or difficult problem." Siefu's quote is 'He walks among us, but he is not one of us' which may connect to someone mysterious, and the sentence sounds something of a riddle. Mr. Pink - "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" - BlindAblino may relate to this because blind people are cautious; but there isn't much else to go on though, perhaps albino can be connected with pink. Anyway that's what i have for now, i have other theories and connections but their more minor then these and will require further analysis before i can even consider making more then a small note on them. Again i'm not saying any of these people are mafia, i'm just pointing out what i found relating clues to them and perhaps other people will make similar connections. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:26 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i think everyone that's voted for empyrean needs to reconsider that vote. there is a chance of him being a detective, but there is also a chance he's just a towny and a chance of being mafia. we can't know for sure, and if anything his move to reveal himself is not a smart move, and why would we want our mayor to be someone who will make rash decisions? yes if he turns out to be a detective he'll be targetted, but it will have been his fault for revealing himself publicly. So far Ace and Ghar have been really productive with creating plans for the town to get organized -- which we need. I'm thinking of changing my vote for Ace, because i don't think it's the best decision to vote for Ghar if there is any hint of a clue pointing at him, Regardless of how small that clue is, or how little it may be, it's better to aim at a mayor whose both productive and has no one suspecting them, which in this case, is Ace Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 05:31 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: It's Albino, i'm just stupid and made a typo error. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I think that's a bit vague to go off of for useless, but again it's something to note for future reference. For that quote; "Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black" i just briefly connected that to LostYourSkills, only because lost your skills may mean losing you're balance -> knocking over people on your side(which is what sidewinder did). again, vague clue, but just something to file away for later. omfghi2u2 is a bit of a stretch too, as would be saying G.s)Naruto's quote of 'hi' (i forgot exactly what it is), since that seems it may be a bit too obvious. agian i'd like to note i'm not saying anyone is mafia, im just making connections for later reference and something for the town to discuss on, and eventually for detectives to make collective decisions about on regarding what questions to ask. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 07:01 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:we don't want a mafia mayor, because if you do anything that points to being mafia we'll have to lynch you, and lose the benefits of having a mayor. it was not the best idea to say you're detective, as people mentioned, your word alone isn't sufficient enough for us to believe you, and in revealing your role makes you seem a bit selfish in terms of wanting to be assured protection, which isn't a good quality for the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:11 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i think it may be best if empyrean is made pardoner rather than mayor. that way if he IS mafia, then we don't lose the mayor role, though the pardoner is important i'd rather lose that role than the mayor. and then there's the protection of being pardoner as a DT too, which if he is a detective and not mafia the town will benefit. the mayor role should go to someone like Ace whose capable of being productive to the town and provides plans or the town to get organized, and the added bonus of having a detective pardoner to turn too as well. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:30 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Empyrean: you must know that in trying to force the town to vote for you as mayor already discredits both you're word and the role you chose to reveal. ANYONE can come out and say, "Hey im so&so role and i you should vote for me" and it doesn't mean they are the best candidate, if anything they are low on the totem pole because of being so rash about revealing a role, or lying about it. I cannot agree with anyone thinking you would be best as mayor, regardless if you are detective or not. Yes, a detective mayor can be good for the town, but to abuse that role and reveal it in attempt to secure protection is a selfish act and is more hurtful to the town. I urge everyone who has voted for Empyrean to re-think that vote, go through the thread where Empyrean first stated his role(check Falycnns blog for the link) and re-evaluate why it is Empyrean wants to be mayor. i'd like to note i changed my vote to Ace, as i think he has solid plans and a good head on his shoulders to help organize the town and lead us astray from disaster like the other game. | ||
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108. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: It is useless to blatantly point fingers at people and making accusations, but i don't think it is hurtful to provoke discussion and reference points for later to make connections to people via the clues we have at hand. I know for me, i am not saying anyone is mafia, im analyzing the few clues we have as a place to start at for town discussion and a reference point for later posts and clues. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:57 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 19:33 Empyrean wrote: I just woke up! I'm running for mayor as well. I have previous mafia experience, and have a good idea of how mafia like to conduct things. Furthermore, I'll take everyone's opinion into consideration, as well as analyze everything myself. The most important reason, and this is kind of risky saying it, but I am a detective. If I'm elected mayor, I'll be guaranteed to be safe from mafia attacks so I can publish my detective results daily, giving us a large boost. If you want, I can ask some easy questions confirming people's roles so they can back me up. The possibility of a Detective Mayor is something in the town's favor. Also, if you don't vote for me now, mafia will target me first night and the town'll be down a detective without me even asking anything :[ note in his post for mayor he says he just woke up. now he's saying he had to reveal his role because he was going to sleep. perhaps just a minor mistake but it's a bit contradictory? worth noting perhaps? Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I don't think you are mafia Empyrean; i think it's way too early in the game to say anyone is mafia, but you're actions so far have not shown good judgement which is one of the things a mayor requires. Perhaps the previous game having been an important part of it and doing well you've wanted to try and live up to that in the opposite role and do the town good -- props for that, but that, i think, may have caused you to act a bit rash in this game and make some mistakes, which because of that i think it is best if you are not mayor. So far you've really not made many good points regarding being mayor, aside from declaring your role and defending that declaration and how important you're role is to the town. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: so far it looks like you might become pardoner.. which gets protection. i just don't want you to be mayor, although the pardoner is important too, having a bad mayor/or mafia/or whatever is worse imo. edit so i don't keep making posts: Ace seems like he'd be a good mayor, and between his plan and Ghars the town will be able to become organized which is a key point for the town to survive Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: preferably i'd also rather him not have mayor or pardoner, but from the current votes he's less likely to attain mayor thankfully, though thats subject to change as more people vote ;x Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:54 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: probably one of those, but in context of the game i don't see how it can be confused with anything else, so seeing someone say DT would of course relate to detective. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: read op, he put a link to the day post. (and fyi its on page 18) Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:33 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: that would be dumb of the mafia? they'd lose that fake detective member as well as a mafia mayor. but yes i'd assume we'd have to lynch both, or in that case order a double lynch and if the mayor doesn't do it then he's mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:54 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok just got back, semi caught up, mostly just skimmed through the last few pages. I'd like to reiterate what i've said a few times before: I'm not trying to say anyone is mafia, i'm using the clues we have so far to make connections to generate discussion and for future reference. No one should be trying to say 'this person is mafia' based on the minimal amount of clues we have; there is no way we can even remotely be sure about anything about anyone. I do believe that it is necessary to look at the clues and make connections for discussion. Only when we have elected a mayor and are facing our first decision as a town to lynch can we make any for sure speculations, but having pre-mayor discussion of clues will help bring us too a decision based on both clues AND posts, and anything else people bring to the table. I felt i needed to make that bold to make it stand out more. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:15 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: so far, based on the most recent vote count, i don't think you really stand too much of a chance for mayor. the votes aren't all in but Ace has a pretty big lead Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i agree that you plan seems solid enough to help the town; and i also would like people(Aside from those who voted for ace) to change their votes to Ghar. Ace, im pretty sure, is going to get mayor... so that leaves pardoner for either empyrean, randombum and ghar. it would be best is empyrean was not pardoner, so its between bum and ghar, and ghar at least has provided productive ideas. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 05:39 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok so just woke up, read the latest few pages where i left off of last night. Not too much going on i see, mostly just waiting for final vote count to get things moving. Looks like randombum overtook empyrean, which is good, hopefully Ace stays in the lead though. As far as empyrean is concerned and his role; anything that happens to him, mafia-wise, such as getting killed or one of the new mafia roles targetting him, is all his fault really. He chose to come out and lay a claim for mayor with 'im a detective' attached to it, and doing that so early is asking for trouble. the town will have to wait before detectives can role check him, but at least he probably won't be mayor or pardoner, regardless of him being innocent or not. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 18:08 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Finished reading day post, going to make a post of things i think may be clues or at least important. + Show Spoiler + Here's a list of lines/details i thought were important and may be clues "the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen" "He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room" "Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock" "They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring" "He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot." "found a smiley in its place" "The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire." "Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device" "another came through the back door" "Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door" "one gruesome gash after another" "He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off." "finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back." "when four men intercepted them" "Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia." "No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself." "a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder." "a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease" "Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help." "crawled past the substance he had slipped" "tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs" "Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat" + Show Spoiler + These are all the mafia codenames listed so far, if i missed any please let me know. Mr. Blonde Mr. Brown Taipan Snake Cottonmouth Snake Charmer Mr. White Mr. Pink Sidewinder Black Mamba Eddie The Wolf Mr. Red Mr. Black King Bown Snake Mr. Blue Joe Enigma I haven't yet tried to interpret the clues but i either will start tonight or tomorrow. Kinda sucks we lost two blue; and it wasn't too smart of yogurt to plant on stalker without talking with anyone about it. We have no reason to suspect anyone that was listed as connetions to Day 1 clues, because their is not enough evidence to say anyone is mafia. Now with Day 2 we may be able to find links since we have more information to cross-reference the old clues and posts/votes to go off of. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:42 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + I put everyone into their respective countries, not in any paticular order though. Yes it took forever Afghanistan: ahrara_ Angola: fanatacist Armenia: araav Australia: SoMuchBetter Fen Energies Camlito LoStYouRSkiLLS Bockit Siefu RowdierBob Ghar Austria: Scorch Belize: Yogurt Bulgaria: str Canada: ShaLLoW[baY] Eti307 Wizard infinity21 JeeJee KF91 GranDim MoRe_mInErAls SoleSteeler HeRoS)Pink fusionsdf BloodyC0bbler Jimtudor Wysp CTStalker zeks Showtime! Kau L Fishball China: Empyrean MidnightGladius Colombia: HotZhot Ecuador: BlindAlbino France: Ninja4ever. Germany: MasterOfChaos Mandalor spoinka G.s)NarutO Hungary: Naib Japan: Evilmonkey. Kenya: AmorVincitOmnia Kiribati: clazziquai Korea(South): SiZ.FaNtAsY Malaysia: dinmsab Ziel Mexico: RtS)Night[Mare Netherlands: Artanis[Xp] BWdero Lenwe New Zealand: Alethios Plexa Norway: Hollander Supah Philippines: wurm Poland: ZBiR Sweden: Hittegods Lysithea KorvspaD jtanJoxxOr Switzerland: fgsvsd Taiwan: Last Romantic KH1031 United Kingdom: Klive5ive United States: Caller Dr.Dragoon CDRdude So no fek ieatkids5 imDerek randombum ulszzgoldenkrnboi Falcynn Alventenie nemY Amber[LighT] Vharox Romance_us NatsuTerran aZnvaLiaNce Kuja900 iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace MTF French_Toast 0cz3c New104 LucasWoJ GeneralStan bumatlarge Chezinu Queasy Pangolin butidigress ~OpZ~ unsoundlogic TranceStorm suresh0t decafchicken DamageControL omfghi2u2 Meta SpiritoftheTuna BuGzlToOnl GrayArea xDark.Carnivalx crazie-penguin {88}iNcontroL DTDominion useLess d.arkive ShadowDrgn rpf Venezuela: Unforgiven_ve No Country Listed: LTT Puosu SonuvBob smurfingchobo qrs AcrossFiveJulys If i forgot anyone or screwed up something just let me know. pretty sure i got everyone and everything correct... hopefully this is useful cuz it took me awhile >< Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:44 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I'm going to work on a compliation of everyones post that has died from begining of the game that were relevant(as in not spam). this may take awhile and i might not finish it tonight. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:47 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok here's a list of OneBlueAugusts, Mynocks, goldenkrnboi and Yogurts posts from Day 1 to Day 2(page 18 to page 91). I'm sorry if I missed some of their posts, feel free to go through all the pages yourself. I was going to edit out the irrelevant posts, but for now im leaving them in until i get around to fixing it. Also, there was no posts by NeaX that I could find. Anyway here is the posts in spoilers(there's alot) + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2008 14:50 OneBlueAugust wrote: Perhaps not, but if there's any useful clues at all in the Day post, I'd think they would be in what the mafia said. The names of the mafia have way too many red herrings in them to be useful at this point, in my opinion. I guess since a huge percentage of the names in the Day post have to do with Quentin Tarantino movies, it would be wise to check up on any references to him in people's names, posts, or signatures... Or even anagrams of Tarantino etc. But I still think the information that can be used by the town will only come out of the quotes. And yes, I do realize that my name could tie me to Mr. Blue. However, as Shallow[Bay] showed, following the "clue" of the reservoir dogs names fingers tons of people, which is why I think it's a red herring. If the names have any meaning at all, it's a deeper on, such as the tie-in to one director or type of movie. On March 21 2008 14:22 OneBlueAugust wrote: Seems like a few decent leads on them, then. On March 21 2008 14:13 OneBlueAugust wrote: Also, did anyone make a comment in this thread, insinuating that if someone got elected mayor that the town would enact something similar to martial law? Cause that person could be the one that this quote: "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law" is pointing to. On March 21 2008 14:50 OneBlueAugust wrote: Perhaps not, but if there's any useful clues at all in the Day post, I'd think they would be in what the mafia said. The names of the mafia have way too many red herrings in them to be useful at this point, in my opinion. I guess since a huge percentage of the names in the Day post have to do with Quentin Tarantino movies, it would be wise to check up on any references to him in people's names, posts, or signatures... Or even anagrams of Tarantino etc. But I still think the information that can be used by the town will only come out of the quotes. And yes, I do realize that my name could tie me to Mr. Blue. However, as Shallow[Bay] showed, following the "clue" of the reservoir dogs names fingers tons of people, which is why I think it's a red herring. If the names have any meaning at all, it's a deeper on, such as the tie-in to one director or type of movie. On March 21 2008 15:17 OneBlueAugust wrote: Just so the mods know, I'm not spamming this thread. I'm just the type of person that always has one more thought after I hit the post button, and I don't think editing in a mafia game should be allowed. Anyway, the reason I think the quotes I mentioned are probably clues is because they stand out from the rest of the storyline. Perhaps I see this dichotomy because I'm a writer, but the dialogue seems very stilted and unnatural, as if it was inserted into the story, instead of being written in along with everything else. If that's the case, then it was probably put in after a general outline of the day post had been fleshed out. The only thing that would be added at that point are the clues, which is why I feel that the dialogue contains the relevant information. This theory is further supported by the fact that some of the dialogue is double-punctuated (IE: a quote ending with an exclamation, followed by an extraneous period). Perhaps Chuiu and Dapperdan just don't pay much attention to their grammar rules, but the other possible explanation for that is that the sentence was inserted in, and they forgot to delete the extra period. On March 21 2008 15:58 OneBlueAugust wrote: Eh, same line of thought and all. I was already spamming, and I figured adding another addition would be too much overkill. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 12:18 Mynock wrote: I never said we should lynch you. The best tactic for town right now is to wait out on you and see how things develop. Lynching you if you're innocent is a set-back for the town, but keeping you if you're mafia is not really a problem. You'd just be like any other mafia, except more suspicious . On March 21 2008 03:19 Mynock wrote: I have to agree. So far, shitstirrers like Shallow and Showtime! contributed nothing but confusion. I really hope they are with mafia, cause whatever side they're on, they only hinder it... Just let's hope they're no special towny roles, would suck to have them wasted like that. On March 20 2008 09:17 Mynock wrote: I think it's very important that all the detectives know for sure that the mayor is legit. Of course saving up the ability to check a person's role is also important, but the start is of utmost importance. Also, once the mayor is elected everybody should be able to reveal their roles to him. Don't forget that if the mafia tried to claim a role to the mayor, and more than the number of the assigned roles claimed it, the mafia would be quite easy to spot, so I doubt they would try that move. In fact, another of the downfalls of Empyrean's self-revealing is as follows: While every detective just uses one of their checks to see if the mayor is legit, Empyrean (the only one who claimed he is a detective, and as such we should try to use him to save a role-check), should use his power to check the pardoner instead. He will probably be muted by the saboteur tho, so then one of the hidden detectives will have to waste another role-check on the pardoner, while Empyrean will eventually either be kept mute or dead as soon as a different target arrives. This would leave us with a mere 3 [edit: oh, plus the 2 from the jack, so it's pretty OK!] role-checks for the rest of the game, but It's still well worth it IMO. On March 19 2008 07:25 Mynock wrote: We're obviously all aware that a detective as mayor would be AWESOME, the problem is just your "coming out" like this, so it forces the town to move radically. (Of course right now the medics really don't have any better targets, just as the detectives, so in the first day I guess it's not a big problem... But still, the Bodyguard Plan sounds good and solid - without too much guessing, too.) On March 20 2008 09:46 Mynock wrote: That's just what I said as well. Altho towards the end of the game I suppose the role-check will become even more important in case there is a case like with Live2Win. That's because, even though the plan of the role-townies revealing themselves all to the mayor would ensure all the roles are accounted for, if one of the roles doesn't have all the members being active enough it might pose such a problem that imposters might show up and infiltrate the system. Besides, there will always be plenty of townies who will draw suspicion to themselves through irrational behaviour (i.e Empyrean ). On March 19 2008 07:17 Mynock wrote: That's your personal view of course, so be it. But if a mayor says that it's the best thing for the town if a mayor is a Suicide Bomber (a MAFIA role) then... Well, I rest my case. On March 19 2008 07:21 Mynock wrote: And Emp, obviously we wouldn't want to lynch you if you're a detective, but as someone already said, pushing your will like that isn't a cool characteristic for a mayor. Besides, you just basically put it like "oh and btw I'm a detective, kinda an advantage, right?". So now it's the best interest of the town to have you: 1) Protected (medics please?) 2) Investigated (detectives please?) Basically now the town has to act and correct the situation because of your own decision. If you're right a DT mayor would of course be swell for town - but if you're not, we have to deal with the situation. On March 20 2008 11:07 Mynock wrote: Exactly. If he was a vanilla townie and thought his position through properly, he would have realized that he can hurt the mafia more by lying about him being a detective. Or, he's a detective after all, and is now just trying to save his hide. Or, he's mafia, in which case the confusion is obvious, but then he just made himself suspicious for no real benefit, and the best move would jut be to hold him suspicious without any direct actions atm. On March 20 2008 10:49 Mynock wrote: Shallow, will you please stop with the incessant harassments? You have done absolutely nothing else the last 60 pages. And yes, we're all aware you're just "having fun". Also, probably the best strategy would be for the medics to decide themselves if they want to protect Empyrean or not, this way the mafia will have to guess whether to use up their suicide bomber (and potentially waste him) or just use up some of their killing power (and still not get the kill). Let them guess. On March 19 2008 07:09 Mynock wrote: Dark Templar? The term DT was used before in this thread several times, always denoting detective. What Dark Templar? I'm beginning to think now that Empyrean, if not mafia, is a towny saboteur who wants to cause misunderstanding just for fun cause he only got a plain towny or something. Either way, I don't know what to make of all of this yet, but you sure drew a hell of a lot of attention to yourself. On March 19 2008 07:13 Mynock wrote: The suicide bombers can't kill a mayor, it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever if they could. [edit: and suggesting all the bodyguards would die before is really far fetched] So either you haven't read the rules at all (don't know the roles, don't know the abilities), or you're doing all this deliberately, or you said something you now want to be unsaid. Any case, I think it's now in your best interest to step down from the election and let us decide later Because either you're not serious enough about the task of a mayor or a mafia. Not a good choice any way. Plus you've now made yourself sound suspicious. On March 20 2008 10:56 Mynock wrote: No, you don't realize a vital part of the plan, namely that the detectives use their role-check ability to see if the mayor is mafia or legit. If he is mafia we will know at once, if he's not, also. Worst case scenario is we lose a detective vs a mafia, best case scenario is we have a solid foundation for the rest of the game. On March 21 2008 01:10 Mynock wrote: I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here. Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie. Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy. As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it. Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office. On March 20 2008 10:52 Mynock wrote: Let's hope once Ace is in the office the plan works and we'll soon have a mayor who could then coordinate us and see if Emp really is legit. With a saboteur and a suicide bomber among the mafia tho, Emp is absolutely useless to the town now either way, except we might save a lynch if he is proven innocent. That's about all the use there is. On March 20 2008 11:01 Mynock wrote: Bah, another horrible move by Empyrean (assuming he is what he says he is). I was considering the chance that Emp was a townie, in which case what he was doing would have made some sense. First, he could draw the saboteur's ability away from the real roles, second, he might have wasted some of the mafia's killing power or even a suicide bomber. Now, if he's indeed a townie he's made another crucial mistake, instead of confusing the mafia (and possibly sacrificing himself) he's confusing the town even further. This is getting really weird now. But for now, I want to hear what others think tho. On March 20 2008 12:07 Mynock wrote: And yes, in case mafia claims to be a detective, Ace coordinates the detectives so that they make a round-check (can even ask a Jack to help) by asking them to check certain people and send in their results without revealing them to anybody else. This way mafia loses a member quite soon and quite certainly. It also has to be added though, that role-checking the detectives is absolutely important tho, as they and the bodyguards are the base of the whole mayor-town network and have to work closely with the mayor. Role-claiming other roles is also not a good idea for mafia, as roles can always be checked upon, and a mafia will always come into a short list of people and a lot of suspicion this way. Imagine mafia claiming a paramedic role. Now mayor assigns the paramedics to different targets (only he knows the targets and their roles) - now if one of the targets still dies it means the mafia somehow knew about the protection and sent more killers or the protector wasn't even protecting anything. Equally, if the mafia does not target the fake medic's assignment, it basically ensures the target's safety. So it's almost as having an extra medic around Fake-claiming roles for mafia does not seem like a good strategy here. On March 19 2008 04:11 Mynock wrote: I agree. What really goes against Empyrian here is that since he did well last game this feeble move right now seems like quite a misstep. Doesn't look right. On March 20 2008 11:51 Mynock wrote: Btw, and advice to paramedics: protect people who you see as being active and posting lots of proactive advice. Think the way a mafia would - it is in scum's best interest to target active, helping townies, so make your decisions based on that. Make them waste their hit power. On March 18 2008 21:37 Mynock wrote: He's already lying! Very suspicious! Let's see his points: 1 - Debatable! (OK, who am I kidding, that's a valid point) 2 - Liar! You're not a mod, you're a newsposter, you can't read edits! 3 - Irrelevant! 4 - Five! And you're not an admin! OMG, deceit! On March 19 2008 07:01 Mynock wrote: Empyrian, none of the points you made make any sense. Every further post you make just makes you look more and more suspicious. I don't see what kind of tactic it is to always enable double lynches and why it is in town's best interest. I don't see how "bodyguard protection is wasted" once mafia will put multiple targets up. In fact, I don't even get it what you want to say :/ Equally like "A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town. Even more so than a DT mayor." So a detective mayor is better than a detective mayor? What? On March 19 2008 07:05 Mynock wrote: I thought so too, but why is he using "/" then? :/ And what does it have to do with his goal? Is he asking for an "other" detective to come out as well? And all this talk about "a mafia mayor is just as good" is just... On March 21 2008 22:57 Mynock wrote: I don't think they would communicate through PMs tho, that's not really efficient. If I was mafia I'd make use of a separate forum created for this reason, passworded and all. Then again, if they don't use anything like that - more power to us But yeah, awaiting day now, nothing better to do than speculate... :/ On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote: Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!! Daybreak when? I will die On March 22 2008 12:43 Mynock wrote: Siddharta Fucking Gautama Buddha, you'll never stop, will you? Mafia please kill me now, else I shoot myself out of frustration -_-; + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 08:13 Yogurt wrote: i've found some flaws in the bodyguard plan, or at least i think i did, but ill wait till he reposts On March 20 2008 08:32 Yogurt wrote: thats not the one, but again, ill wait for ace to post it again On March 20 2008 11:28 Yogurt wrote: how do we guarantee who the detectives are again? imo if the mafia was smart, they would have 1 or two claim the detective roles to cause a lot of confusion and stall while townies died, even if they got lynched in the end On March 20 2008 13:40 Yogurt wrote: should've lynched someone that at least voted, which shows their active but refusing to share their views its not too good of odds to just pick randomly On March 20 2008 10:51 Yogurt wrote: i reread the plan, and for some reason i had in my mind that then the townies would be pm'ing their roles to the bodyguards, but i see he never wrote that in any case, this wouldn't work because of the massive pool of townies. Yes, it'd be easy to fish out the role claimers, as there are only two or three of each role, but the pool of townies is like 90 something people, which would allow mafia to just put their names in as townies, and it wouldn't help much. But anyway, I'm curious as to how the plan will continue. So hypothetically lets say Ace is mafia. He gets into "office" releases the names of the bodyguards, and everything seems fine. But if the town thinks he is legit, as he well might be, he garners a huge amount of trust and can sway the lynching votes away from his fellow mafia. But anyway, even if we do get the bodyguard names, where do we go from there? IF ace is mafia, he could release the names, but just as well kill all the bodyguards the first night. Well great, we lynch him, fine. But now pardoner has no bodyguards, and we're down a mayor. I dunno I guess someone should be skeptical of this plan On March 20 2008 12:52 Yogurt wrote: you mean the other way around right? at worst he's a townie? unless you meant it that way...! seriously though,i think the lynch would be better used on one of the quieter players, as we learned from last game On March 21 2008 04:15 Yogurt wrote: I'm not pming yet on the premise Ace might be mafia Another thing i have to say is everyone consider what they would do if they were mafia Would you really be contributing, besides maybe running for mayor, or would you lay back and try to let the town incriminate themselves like last match? The quietest ones are often the most dangerous On March 19 2008 03:34 Yogurt wrote: i vote for empyrean On March 19 2008 07:13 Yogurt wrote: even if empyrean is mafia, i dont see how it could potentially be THAT bad his double vote doesn't count for much, and if he doesn't put our double lynch demands to use, we can just lynch him and be done with it if he is really townie, or detective as he claims, then he would truly be a crazy help to the town he knows the game, winning it last round, and writing a detailed summary, so either way we either get a huge plus, or a not so bad negative + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 10:34 goldenkrnboi wrote: what if the pardoner is mafia? On March 19 2008 10:26 goldenkrnboi wrote: 63. HeRoS)Pink 95. OneBlueAugust it's too early to tell and it seems a bit too obvious, but let's just keep an eye on these two On March 20 2008 15:40 goldenkrnboi wrote: .____. well, can't really blame him. true, he should have gone for lurkerish type of people, but whatever. all we can do now is just wait for morning to come. On March 21 2008 15:04 goldenkrnboi wrote: Although I agree that the clue is too vague, chuiu specifically says that he avoids doing intentional red herrings. On March 22 2008 00:50 goldenkrnboi wrote: don't forget that last time, the votes and the discussion were on the same thread. Also, these are ONLY their posts, i did not put conversations/replies of other peoples, and unfortunatly these are also not in order. sorry x.x anyway here's who they voted for: NeaX voted for Ace Yogurt voted for Ace goldenkrnboi voted for Ace Mynock voted for randombum Apparently i'm blind and can't find who august voted for. NOTE:THESE POSTS ARE ONLY IN THIS THREAD, ANY POSTS IN THE VOTE THREADS OR ANY BLOGS I DID NOT GO THROUGH, EVERYTHING HERE CAN BE FOUND IN THIS THREAD Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:49 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: Oh well... I had the free time to do it anyway, lol. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 05:01 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=96&topic_id=67925 posts i made last night listing people in their countries, a list of the mafia suspect names and the posts made by oneblueaugust, mynock, goldenkrnboi and yogurt. incase anyone missed it and wanted to look at it all ;x Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:19 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:how long till we have to get our votes in? i just woke up so i haven't tried to connect people to clues yet, probably won't till later tonight;x Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: yes well look where that town ended up. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:38 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:someone voted for me? -.- edit: just checked vote blog, and by the gods someone did vote for me Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:anyone want me too find and list all of mandalors posts? i dont know if its really needed or not ;x Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:so uh i just noticed that with the addition of mr. orange, copperhead, california mountain snake and max that makes the mafia name list to 21. 1. Mr. Blonde 2. Mr. Brown 3. Mr. White 4. Mr. Pink 5. Mr. Red 6. Mr. Black 7. Mr. Blue 8. Mr. Orange 9. Taipan Snake 10.Cottonmouth 11.Snake Charmer 12.Sidewinder 13.Black Mamba 14.King Bown Snake 15.California Mountain Snake 16.Copperhead 17.Eddie 18.The Wolf 19.Joe 20.Enigma 21.Max unless i made a mistake? Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:17 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:if you guys want me to go through and find all the dead peoples posts i will, but i won't do it until later tonight ;x edit: and if someone has a faster way of finding all their posts, be it some trick i dont know or some script you can use, let me know please Posted in night7/main_page.152 Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:33 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I originally connected G.s)Naruto too Mr. Blonde on day 1, though i havent yet gone through day 2 and day 3 clues to find connections, here was what i put in a notepad; G.s)Naruto - Mr. Blonde "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - naruto anime has blonde hair; naruto is a ninja- >'coming out of nowhere'=sneaky "ninja-esque" Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:47 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: figured i'd re-quote this so i can get a yay or nay on it(and if someone else is already doing it) Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:53 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i linked both of them; but naruto had a stronger link, since as far as i could link the clue it only went with ninja4evers username. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:56 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: yeah but 'naruto' had more reasoning behind it (and the connection to 'mr.blonde') then just taking the username ninja4ever as a solid connection. but as i said, i put them both down for a connection to the clue, i just felt the clue was a stronger connection to g.s)naruto; and i haven't gone through to see if any other clues link to him yet Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: linked wrong; http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=96#1903 Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:05 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:ok ill get all the people who dieds posts done later tonight, and ill do a few other things depending how long this takes, and hopefully get a chance to interpret the clues._. | ||
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108. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:10 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok I've finally compiled the list of posts of the people that died recently. They're sort of in order, i tried to keep them in order. I may have missed a few posts, but this is just about all of their posts from page 18 to 148. + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 16:14 ShadowDrgn wrote: Everyone's sigs can be found from the signup and their profiles from the OP. Putting them all together would be a lot of copy paste work. The clue that stands out the most to me is "either you're with us or you're permanently not" and from just looking at the sign up list, the statement seems like (94. unsoundlogic). He also has no sig, no profile, and few posts per week, meaning a clue made for him would have to come from his name. However, a more common form of that phrase such as "either you're with us or you're against us" would also be unsound logic so maybe there's something special in the words "permanently not." There's also (107. GrayArea) to consider for that clue (another person with no sig, profile, and few posts). Of course, the choice between two extremes leaves no gray area. On March 19 2008 13:39 ShadowDrgn wrote: In case anyone actually cares about the clues, here are my thoughts: Day 1 Clue: you get to taste lead for dinner Suspect: Caller Reason: Sig contains "lead" and other food items that could be related to "dinner" Clue: either you're with us or you're permanently not Suspect: unsoundlogic Reason: Clue contains unsound logic! Suspect: GrayArea Reason: Clue lacks a gray area. Clue: Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable Suspect: MidnightGladius Reason: Sig contains "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable" Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed Suspect: CDRdude Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off. Suspect: Ninja4ever Reasons: Ninja come out of nowhere! I think this connection is stronger than Dark Carnival does. Clue: [Dapperdan] met [King Brown Snake] face to face halfway Suspect HotZhot Reasons: Extremely weak, but his name sort of fits the description. His profile picture is a half-covered face too. Clue: Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. This seems like two separate clues ("automatically" and "being unarmed"), but I can't fit either of them to anyone. Clue: The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" Suspect: CTStalker Reason: Sig contains "I bear no grudge against you" plus the Wolf-Stalker connection. Credit to Dark.Carnival for this one - I think he's dead on. If we're going to lynch anyone based on clues, I think it should be CTStalker. On March 20 2008 07:47 ShadowDrgn wrote: Doesn't look like it's going to be possible to enforce the voting rule with 34 people unaccounted for. On March 21 2008 08:30 ShadowDrgn wrote: The 'PM your role' plan isn't foolproof because there are many people with the same role and additionally, a few of each role will probably be inactive. For example, there are 7 paramedics. Odds are that 1-2 of them won't get the message that they're supposed to PM their role to Ace, which means the mafia is fairly safe having a member or two lie to Ace about being a medic. Even if Ace receives 7 or fewer medic PMs, he can't trust those people to not be mafia. If he receives 8+ PMs, at least one person is mafia, but 1/8 is a lower ratio than randomly guessing, and there aren't enough detectives to go around to ferret out that one liar. Either way, those people can't be trusted. The plan is more useful for limited roles such as the Mad Hatter. With only one of those left, the mafia would be taking a huge gamble to pretend to be that one. Vigilantes and Detectives are medium risk - pretending to be one could be a huge payoff if the mafia doesn't get caught and Ace trusts them, but also poses a high risk of being busted. On March 21 2008 13:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: Hollander has an Einstein quote in his sig. Einstein's goal was a grand unified theory of physics. If that's a clue, it's incredibly good and you're a genius Chezinu. On March 22 2008 14:01 ShadowDrgn wrote: Yogurt did the right thing. He could only plant one bomb a night but could remove them at any time so the best strategy was to plant a bomb on the most suspicious person, which was CTStalker. Yogurt being randomly killed and CTStalker being a Jack were both really bad luck, just like your lynching of incontrol. Good strategy, bad luck. On March 23 2008 07:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: The plan was for the detectives to check on Ace's role, and if he's mafia, to post as such. Since no detective has outed him as mafia, we can assume: 1) Ace is clean; or, 2) All of the detectives didn't get the message or decided not to check up on Ace AND Ace is mafia. Considering the unlikelihood of (2), it's relatively safe to assume (1). We're boned at this point if we're wrong anyway so just trust him. On March 23 2008 11:44 ShadowDrgn wrote: It'd be more helpful if you could vouch for him not being mafia. On March 24 2008 15:25 ShadowDrgn wrote: Score! Awesome job on this one Ace. On March 24 2008 15:32 ShadowDrgn wrote: Ace said there were a few role collisions so we'll hopefully have another guaranteed hanging or two next day without the need for guesswork. On March 25 2008 09:25 ShadowDrgn wrote: Maybe you should get yourself suspected of being mafia then. I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven. On March 26 2008 04:42 ShadowDrgn wrote: I'm not really lying low. I'm PDT and most of the activity in this thread happens while I'm at school or at work. I did some clue postings for day 1, but other people beat me to day 2 and I just didn't have anything constructive to add. Would you like to know that shotguns are my favorite FPS weapon? Not like Chuiu had any way of knowing that. The dragoon connection is really grasping - drgn is dragon, nothing more. Put useLess and I voting for different people and check one of the groups out if you want to be safe. I think it'd actually be better to check if one of the "useless mafia" clues point to him instead, but that's not 100% guaranteed. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 07:54 French_Toast wrote: This, and fuck yeah sea king, are two of the worst things that ever spawned out of 4chan. On March 20 2008 07:42 French_Toast wrote: Amazing, this game is only starting and there is already 57 pages of posts! That's around 1/3 of the pages of last game! Maybe we will set a TL record? On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote: Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. On March 21 2008 07:26 French_Toast wrote: Okay, first of all thanks for insulting me directly, now I have an excuse to put you down. Secondly, are you the type of n00b that when he gets a great game and plays it, he types in cheat codes automatically? Do you really like to replace skill with exploits? If so then games in general are not for you, especially StarCraft. Why do you think developers balance games out? StarCraft went through so many patches for that single purpose, that is why it's so competitive. And no, I don't want to lose, but I don't want to play unfair either! And if you were talking about cheesing for StarCraft, those aren't really exploits, they are valid strategies that can be countered. On March 21 2008 07:29 French_Toast wrote: Thanks for asking. I like the bodyguard plan, that seems a great way to go. Also, I think we should spend a lot of our time interpreting clues, I mean if people did that more last game, the townies would have won. Especially in the end, they were so obvious. On March 21 2008 07:43 French_Toast wrote: Of course you are playing by the rules, you just chose to go the wrong way to go about it. You are not hacking, or cheating, a better way to describe it would be glitching. Look, let's say everyone responds truthfully except for the Mafia. Unless the Mafia are stupid they will all claim to be townies. Now, what you have is, all special roles are safe and medics can be assigned via PM. Also you have 31 innocents and you know everyone's special role. So, then you could also coordinate attacks with vigilantes, investigations with detectives, and other stuff. HOW CHEAP IS THAT? You are pretty much assembling an organized army and reducing possible suspects by 31! This game is set for you! Unless the mafia are super awesome you are pretty much 4 pooling them. On March 21 2008 07:47 French_Toast wrote: I don't really see how my posts are bitchy, but if you want me to be more polite, then sure. On March 21 2008 07:50 French_Toast wrote: Well if you are accusing me of being mafia then I'm afraid I have no defense off the top of my head. The only thing I could really say is that you'll be wasting a lynch. On March 21 2008 08:06 French_Toast wrote: I know this is doing wonders for my post count Mafia related: I am not trying to act selfish, if I seem that way, I'm just trying to point out that this strategy is cheap and we should stick to others like: interpreting the clues, and bodyguard plan. On March 21 2008 08:15 French_Toast wrote: I think I already addressed this, whatever I'll say it again. In the previous posts I made, one of my arguments was that it would make the game less fun. Mafia is supposed to be about digging up clues and dirt on people, convincing your theory is right to other people, and having fun in general. These kind of games can become epic and fun to read, but if you use a cheap win you will lose all of that. On March 21 2008 08:32 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, good joke I guess, I didn't fully understand how my posts don't have quality. (If your speaking about my previous one liner then I didn't really have much to respond to.) I'll be looking forward to it. For the spreadsheet thing, to bad you didn't go through with it, I guess it's a thing for people with a lot of time. As for the information gathering point, I actually see a big difference. You could, of course keep track of all these people, get info, and guess who's who, that's what I'm saying you should do. Doing your own investigative work and then comparing answers with someone else is what I think the most exciting part of this game is. However, telling everyone to PM their roles to you, if you can combine that with your list effectively, you own all. Not only will you have all of the special roles in due time, you will also have an abridged list of suspects, and all the detectives at your disposal. Using detectives to check your suspects and Vigilantes to kill them is like the ultimate counter-mafia fighting force! On March 21 2008 08:42 French_Toast wrote: True, but that is why I am attracted to this game so. You have lots of time to keep track of everything and to determine clues. However the down side to this is that there are so many people that it is a guessing game most of the time, if people actually take the challenge to do all of this investigating then they will have fun and dominate. Yes, at first. But this plan is not instantly put into place, after around 2 days people have to login to vote or else they are breaking the rule that you have to vote and will be kicked, then the role will be assigned to another and they will confirm. After a while you will the info. On March 21 2008 08:47 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, alright I was wondering you picked shallow bay to talk about his mom, I thought it was funny because of that. On March 24 2008 09:01 French_Toast wrote: I don't really understand what you mean by confusing the town. If speaking out against your plan was confusing the town then I'm not sure we have the same definition. As for being against you on every step, not really. I agree with you lynching Mandalore, that counts. On March 24 2008 09:11 French_Toast wrote: I'm not going to go into the details of why I think it's cheap again. Talking about the strategy being cheap was just my opinion being expressed. It was not my intention to cause confusion and panic (which I hope I didn't do), it was just to point out that it resembled something of abusing a glitch in a game. I have not yet however seen an outcome or jump in the numbers of mafia getting killed per night, so so far I have been proven wrong. On March 24 2008 09:17 French_Toast wrote: Showtime!, if you would like further discuss whether it's cheap or not, do not do it in the thread. On March 24 2008 09:32 French_Toast wrote: And then we lynch him and he turns out to be a towny. Would you rather be 90% sure or 100% sure? Last game a lot of people were lynched that were so obvious and turned out to be towny. An example would be Dr.Dragoon, with the syringe clue, people were 99% sure it's him, and he turned up innocent. On March 24 2008 07:37 French_Toast wrote: Speaking of which, why do we have to lynch people. Instead of voting only for the person we should also vote for that way we kill them. We could maybe shoot them in the head, inject them with some crap, chop their head off with a guillotine... etc. Night posts would be so much more interesting if we had a creative way of killing people. On March 24 2008 08:54 French_Toast wrote: Oh my, I'm famous! On a side note- Just because you are irritated at my posts doesn't mean I am necessarily mafia. As for Ace's post on lynching people because their annoying, for someone who cares so much about the town to push the self destruct button... (I hope that was sarcasm) On March 24 2008 13:46 French_Toast wrote: I don't think it should take them that long to make tactical decisions. Assuming the mafia are organized, the constantly active mafias are most likely the ones who make most of the decisions and just use the constantly inactive mafia's killing power for their schemes. That's how it worked last game, wouldn't be surprised if that's how it worked now. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 08:07 LucasWoJ wrote: It was also very apparent to outsiders that Dr. Dragoon was completely innocent. On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote: I don't particularly care that Empyrean is selfish. If it's the kind of selfishness that helps the town win, then I think it's fine. It's more a question of how credible he is, and to me, he's completely honest. Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role. On March 19 2008 08:35 LucasWoJ wrote: It's a little bit more than his word. Based on his response to speculations about his role, I cannot see him being a mafioso. However, I'm beginning to see what you're arguing by saying it was selfish. By saying he's a detective, he's forced the town to take a risk, no matter what we do. If we don't him in as mayor, and he was a detective, the we lose a valuable role. If he is in the mafia and we DO vote him in as mayor, then...well, that's not desirable to say the least. Either way (voting for him, or not voting for him), you're taking a risk, which is something someone may have wanted to avoid in the mayoral elections. I can see that as a valid point to abstain from voting, but to me, the risk of Empyrean being mafia is not too high. On March 19 2008 08:48 LucasWoJ wrote: Considering you have "Pink" in your name, you just made me question whether Empyrean is really part of mafia or not. Are you saying that because they agree on a position that works, they're both part of mafia? Eh? Makes no sense to me. On March 19 2008 08:58 LucasWoJ wrote: Wow, you shouldn't have revealed that. That's an incredibly thoughtful idea. I guess it sorta confirms your allegiance to the town thinking up that idea. On March 19 2008 09:35 LucasWoJ wrote: OO That is a big hole in the plan. On March 19 2008 12:40 LucasWoJ wrote: I actually find a lot of his one liners pretty funny. I suggest all of us go back and re-read the topic, especially anything concerning Empyrean. As we get further and further from his defense posts, it becomes easier and easier to forget about how credible it seemed of him to be a detective. I'm trying to do this with an open mind, and his defense of himself leads me to believe that he is a detective. On March 21 2008 03:29 LucasWoJ wrote: Stalling for time? If he everyone to send him a PM with their roles except for mafia, we know who mafia is. If he receives too many PMs in one sections, we get suspects. Townies all have roles they can play by, mafia will either have to lie and might get caught, or not send a PM and get exposed that way. On March 21 2008 03:37 LucasWoJ wrote: It would still help with the slightest screw-up from the mafia. Say four detectives send a PM to Ace revealing their roles. One mafioso decides to become a detective for the sake of the PM. Bam, we've got a smaller suspect list. It's easier to look into the Day posts and find clues for 5 people than 130. On March 21 2008 07:54 LucasWoJ wrote: Jeez, it sounds like you're against the town winning. If it's by the rules, why complain about what you feel is inevitable victory? Sure sounds like your against the interest of the town. It sounds like you're a mafioso who's having trouble deciding on what to do. On March 22 2008 22:17 LucasWoJ wrote: WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"? I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction. I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.) Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you? On March 22 2008 22:24 LucasWoJ wrote: Also since it popped into my head, the smiley face reference does not necessarily refer to the profile. As Chuiu said, it can point to posts as well. I know I was wondering why some people had used so many smileys so often in their posts. Let's be careful when we convict anyone based solely on that clue alone. It can already lead to two people just by examining everyone's quote (and definitely more by looking through their profile) and if look at anything else, the suspect list is definitely going to grow. On March 22 2008 22:28 LucasWoJ wrote: That's irrelevant. Still, it used to stand for WaysoftheJedi, but once again, Chuiu could not even begin to assume that. Now that clan is long gone On March 22 2008 22:55 LucasWoJ wrote: Yes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning. If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious" --- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part. On March 23 2008 02:26 LucasWoJ wrote: Actually, I thinl that it's the best clue we have. Chuiu repeated the lead reference twice, so I am almost positive it's some sort of a clue. My personal opinion is that it's the strongest clue we have, since most of the other ones are really just hit/miss + hope you get something good. The cellphone clue just strengthens our case against Caller. On March 23 2008 07:30 LucasWoJ wrote: You just woke up? What time is it where you are? (I'm looking at the "United States" part and laughing). On March 24 2008 05:04 LucasWoJ wrote: Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog. Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already. On March 24 2008 05:11 LucasWoJ wrote: That's why he asked us the retract our votes, that way, those that are on will vote for whom we know is mafia. Ace knows what he's doing. Give him a chance. It seems that no matter who is mayor, there's always a group of people willing to give him a hard time. Calm down, we're in good hands. On March 24 2008 05:12 LucasWoJ wrote: ...so you're against the town getting more time if it needs it? On March 24 2008 05:17 LucasWoJ wrote: You haven't convinced me. Obviously, you have a very strange definition for playing fair. This is not what we should be doing. This reaction is provoked by a lack of patience and creates a rush of emotions that could destroy our foundation in this game. Let's cut it out and wait for Ace to get those PMs back. On March 24 2008 05:20 LucasWoJ wrote: And by saying that, you're implying you're blue encouraging the mafia to target you. You hurt the town with even that statement. On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote: No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier). On March 24 2008 05:50 LucasWoJ wrote: If any clue points to French toast, it will most likely be concerned with his profile image On March 24 2008 05:59 LucasWoJ wrote: Don't forget that people can die during the night. On March 24 2008 06:05 LucasWoJ wrote: ROFL Yeah, I just re-read that and it made no sense. I thought Pink's logic was "Let's kill ghar tonight and kill the other suspects." My logic was that detective might die at night and then would not be able to uncover more mafia. Now that I think about it, that makes no sense whatsoever, lol. On March 25 2008 01:40 LucasWoJ wrote: Hmm, yeah you're right. He edited his post after it was announced. I'm guessing now that it originally said, "I abstain" and then he changed it to "I change my vote to Mandalor." I wish people just made new posts. On March 25 2008 01:43 LucasWoJ wrote: I think he's saying that he posted "I abstain" on March 23rd, and and on March 24th, he edited his post, instead of making a new one voting for Mandalor. :/ On March 25 2008 00:29 LucasWoJ wrote: That was a good call to investigate that. I was thinking that the people toward the bottom of the list would be mafia since they just jumped on the bandwagon in order to save themselves, but TL-Attack was on and I noticed most of the people voted after it was over. Also, those on the very bottom could just have been late, but chances are that at least a few of them decided they needed to vote against their teammate. I don't want to start calling names, since it was in the town's best interest to vote for Mandalor. I'm also wondering this. There were a lot of random votes here and there, and perhaps it could be an indication of mafia splitting their votes so that detectives have a hard time finding information on how the mafia voted. Or they could be inactive. On March 25 2008 00:39 LucasWoJ wrote: And it gets slightly better too. If the mafia hits any of the guys who voted for mandalor, it becomes easier to find them. Even though I'd prefer to lose minimal townies, if that doesn't happen, we'll still be able to benefit in some way. The mayor is much better this game than last game. On March 25 2008 01:26 LucasWoJ wrote: Let's see if we could find any clues on him. User name smurfingchobo [ PM | Buddy ] Photo None uploaded. Joined TL.net Monday, 26th of April 2004 Birthday January 15, 1987 Country Quote Teach me PvZ~ Total Posts 527 Average Posts Per Day 0.37 Average Posts Per Week 2.59 Posts made in the last week 7 That's all he has, so it should be rather blatant if there is anything on him. Though Chuiu hasn't revealed all identities yet (I think he revealed 17), so it might become more clear tomorrow. On March 25 2008 08:57 LucasWoJ wrote: For the mafia? We seem to be doing incredibly well. Everything Ace does is cutting the mafia's escape plans. I'm seriously doubting we're going to lose, and Ace is making it look easy. On March 25 2008 11:51 LucasWoJ wrote: Is that a change in signature Showtime? On March 25 2008 12:04 LucasWoJ wrote: Disable you in the hopes of getting a townie lynched I guess. With your powers, you'd be able to pardon a townie, but I doubt they'd even get very far. Ace has so much more influence than entire mafia combined that we'd probably not need to use the pardoner. On March 26 2008 02:03 LucasWoJ wrote: Yeah, I remember someone saying "Guys, I took a hit last night" and most people just overlooked that (someone repsonded with "You mean you drank too much or what?" It was after the Day 2 post. On March 26 2008 02:00 LucasWoJ wrote: Oh, I see. Yeah, the very fact that wurm (if he's a medic) received a PM confirming that he saved someone during the night is reason enough to send Ace a PM and tell him. He should have also sent him a PM before the the new Day post informing Ace of his actions during the night (If someone is saved during the night, then it becomes more plausible that it was your doing since you sent in your actions to both Chuiu and Ace.) On March 26 2008 01:48 LucasWoJ wrote: Yes, but the person being protected would know if more than one person protected him. On March 26 2008 01:52 LucasWoJ wrote: Read your post, then read my post. There didn't have to be a point. You had a hole in what you were saying, so I helped you out with it. I don't see what you're arguing. On March 26 2008 11:34 LucasWoJ wrote: OH, I see what you did there. Clever, aren't you? On March 26 2008 11:39 LucasWoJ wrote: I'm just wondering, why do you say you're definitely going to die? o.O On March 26 2008 12:08 LucasWoJ wrote: He's not drunk; I don't think he knows English well, that's all. On a side note, I used to love the Pinky and the Brain. It used to be one of my favorite cartoons. On March 26 2008 12:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Was that part added after or before the way he chose to vote on Day 2? + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote: people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him now that his role is out of the question (WHY was it even in question? i don't understand, someone roleclaiming @ this point holds as much weight as something that doesn't have a lot of weight at all), what else has he provided? nothing aside from repeatedly self-contradicting posts. as for the other candidates..meh. i was keeping an updated excel sheet of ALL the people, who they vote for, who supports them, who they support, who accuses them, who they accuse, because it gets oh-so-easy to keep track of people (i was reading thread @ work and felt like doing that) then i get home and flip vanilla, so i suddenly get far too lazy to do that =/ maybe someone else can take over, i'll send you what i have right now (it goes up to page 35ish i think?) oh and it has the list of all the people, their sigs, and potential themes used for clues, ordered by likelihood, since I think that getting a list of clues that could apply to a certain person, then running through the day post to see if any in fact DO match, is a far better way than vice versa (running through the post to see the people they might match to) someone with a lot of time (randombum?) wanna do this? ill probably end up voting for ace or randombum, since at least they're attempting logical, objective stuff ,rather than pointless subjective stuff (im looking at you, empyrean and sonuv) On March 19 2008 12:12 JeeJee wrote: dt in other news, vote for me, im a bodyguard. i can't be killed while i'm alive. can't beat this platform, there's no logical holes in that at all On March 19 2008 12:22 JeeJee wrote: Don't you mean the kal? (urbandictionary's full of shi---err kal!) edit: turn that frown upside down! and, to make this mafia related, due to a few sidebets before the game started, there's a group of 3 people (im 1 of them) that 'know' each other's roles! we could've lied of course, but we're buddies, we wouldn't do that.. i hope. On March 19 2008 12:33 JeeJee wrote: the thing about tying up mafia's roleblocker.. it's not like they have anything better to roleblock anyway. if they want someone not to act, they can kill them, and it's unlikely that they'll find out a jack or medic any time soon (and once again, if they do, they can just kill them) On March 20 2008 08:01 JeeJee wrote: numbers are irrelevant, we have a few people on waiting list, get them in, randomly disperse the roles to townies (im just saying this cause im vanilla haha), and say the rest died in a tragic forest fire. no point making rules if you're not enforcing them, however harsh it may be. less dead weight for mafia to hang about in anyway (notice there's a lot less mafia relatively, 15% vs 20% so dead weight is that much more deadly) if you really want to, give them one more chance to vote in 2nd day, but with a 48hour timeline, that really shouldn't be necessary On March 20 2008 09:16 JeeJee wrote: im pretty certain jacks have access to 6 rolechecks. however keep in mind they cannot use the same role in consecutive days, meaning it would take 12 days for all 6 rolechecks, at the least. after all, if the checks don't refresh in count, why would the detective night lives? hopefully chuiu can confirm, but i don't think it's a big deal to have a check every other day/night cycle for 12 cycles. On March 20 2008 13:08 JeeJee wrote: @hotzhot, the final vote count has already been done, so.. as for ace, looking through the thread, he seems to post at every hour of every day pretty much; i wonder if he sleeps? O_o still let's not get off on the wrong foot with forcing ace to lynch someone he might not want. we don't want the same shit that happened last game (i.e. a bad start) there's no particular hurry anyway, the day post was posted 45 hours ago, so there's still at least 3 hours til the 'ultimate' deadline. would be silly to do anything until then disregard that, ace is back.! On March 21 2008 08:13 JeeJee wrote: @french toast, heros pink firstly - the thing about excel spreadsheets. whichever one of you mentioned it, the conversation was between me and ace. however since i flipped vanilla townie, i stopped updating my excel sheet cause i honestly don't give a damn (it's stuck at around page 35ish, the conversation took page on around 40ish). secondly, this everyone-pm-ace-their-role plan is just that, a plan. plans can go wrong in so many ways. how is this cheap? certainly if you argue that this is cheap, what about my excel spreadsheet? let's assume i wasn't lazy, and actually updated it. as soon as someone died, BAM i could go and see who supported that person, who accused that person, who that person accused, who that person supported, who he voted for, whether he changed votes, etc. With 9+ kills per night, don't you think that's a retardedly high amount of information? add in the themes and clues i was thinking of (another tab in my excel sheet), and you get a nice suspect list, that you can fine-tune each day, as each death gives a shitload of information to the person. i almost talked myself into getting back to updating this list -_-; both plans are just ways of getting information, which is necessary for town to win. both are within the rules, and so the game is balanced around them. i find it hard to believe that chuiu didn't take this into account. if he didn't want this to happen, he can ban PMs, plain and simple (like in tracil's game) seriously now don't be silly On March 21 2008 11:13 JeeJee wrote: why would a townie mayor lie about being roleblocked? edit: the only thing that has me thinking is this either chuiu isn't that strict about making sure the sab tells him before day starts, or the first day is an exception On March 21 2008 14:02 JeeJee wrote: i vouch for august ^_^ he's one of the group of 3 i mentioned earlier (it's actually 4 now!) that 'know' each other's roles due to sidebets from before the game. and obviously it's in quotes because we could've lied. i wouldn't want to be a buddy with a liar though. *cough* On March 21 2008 14:20 JeeJee wrote: @august the person who helped run tracil's game is alethios, who is playing this game the person who said anything about martial law was only rts)nightmare and this was in the first thread, and he is playing. On March 21 2008 14:28 JeeJee wrote: personally i doubt they were intended clues (at least intended to be interpreted in this way) but you never know (no but seriously, i think it's really unlikely those are clues at all, let alone clues to those people, but..) On March 22 2008 00:53 JeeJee wrote: i'd imagine mafia are probably using an irc channel for immediate thoughts and something like a private google group for people in a diff timezone or whatnot. that's what we did in tracil's game anyway, and it worked out fairly well anyway the day post being up has probably nothing to do with chuiu, he has to get all the night actions (more than just mafia) in before even thinking about what happens. and it's not like once they're in he instantly has a day post ready to go. have some patience ^_^ On March 22 2008 03:58 JeeJee wrote: we already have a set of clues in the day1 post day 2 is gonna have the 2nd set of clues :O On March 22 2008 07:48 JeeJee wrote: you sound awfully calm for a townie. maybe you know something we dont. and only way that happens is you being mafia. wanna come clean? On March 22 2008 10:54 JeeJee wrote: i don't get it O_o anyway, could we get a time estiamte from chuiu? where are we at, night actions being sent, night actions received creating clues, clues done creating daypost, or..? i'm juts wondering :O On March 22 2008 23:47 JeeJee wrote: ah yes it could be you too, good catch. also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote: a recurring statement: day1 day2 unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho) nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares) omfghi2u2 - name LemMe - quote, what's up On March 23 2008 00:07 JeeJee wrote: .....yeeeees and? how does this justify araav wanting to know the identity of the medic On March 23 2008 00:39 JeeJee wrote: it actually linked to fen and his birthday as far as i understand, the only recurring thing from last game that didn't point to anyone was people kicking stuff, so i wouldn't look too deep into any of those clues. chuiu himself said something along those lines "i like people kicking shit. it wasn't a clue that pointed to anyone else though" On March 24 2008 05:47 JeeJee wrote: have you went through the timestamps of his posts in this thread to confirm he's usually online at this time? if so, that's pretty damning evidence On March 24 2008 05:52 JeeJee wrote: well it's not like it takes any longer than a few minutes ... it would be pretty stupid to be waiting on a reply from someone who's sleeping from say 2;00KST to 10;00KST On March 24 2008 05:55 JeeJee wrote: well as long as you feel the time is reasonable enough -- keep in mind it is easter weekend anyway, make a statement or something at the latest by 10:00KST or so, that'll give us like ~3 hours to get the votes in; should be fine On March 24 2008 06:02 JeeJee wrote: no what? it's statements like these that make no sense at all. you're making me waste a post and clutter up the thread. jeez On March 26 2008 07:46 JeeJee wrote: it's actually not, assuming chuiu/dapperdan follows through with his promise and gets rid of them, as well as passing on their roles before night3 (after getting the waitlisted guys in, obviously). and maybe ban them from next game (if there is one) as well (just a 1-game ban, don't go nuts here) as for the 3 spammers in this thread (aznval, showtime, shallow), stfu. a lot of people don't want to read that shit. annnnnnnd finally, for the person who suggested we only investigate one half of the groups (since the other could be deduced from the total) -- dont. this is good assuming everyone votes, and the people who didn't previously vote also dont' vote. if this could be guaranteed, there would be a better course of action anyway (virtual splits), but since it's not a guarantee at all, both sides must still be investigated. the good thing about doing this, is that it doesn't matter whether you want to follow along with the plan or not, because you're still following along with it. we know what the total mafia #s have to add up to, and if the people who were told to vote for someone choose to abstain, or in fact choose to vote for someone else entirely, they will affect the total, and in fact, reveal their alignment. obv there's a loophole to this (at least it looks like it - thankfully, there's a somewhat obvious prevention mechanism as well) On March 26 2008 08:45 JeeJee wrote: whoops, sorry bout that ace. still, i can't imagine mafia didn't think of that, they'd have to be pretty retarded, and if that's the case, saying that won't help them anyway. On March 26 2008 12:32 JeeJee wrote: dont worry most of it is spam from people who keep telling others to stop spamming. ahh the irony. anyway, i dont think today's 48hr thing is going to be held up, haven't heard a word from chuiu, and day posts usually take a while to write.. it's a shame -- i'm not even sure where dapperdan is so i don't think we have a backup either? hmm On March 27 2008 08:49 JeeJee wrote: chuiu! are you planning on kicking the people who haven't voted in day2 and day1? as in, no more chances, bye bye to them, get people from waiting list in? + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 01:09 dinmsab wrote: Voting for randombum. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 02:53 Fishball wrote: I just want to get this over with and head to Night. The votes are pretty much set. On March 21 2008 04:25 Fishball wrote: I call mafia Townies can't be that dumb, right?! Vigil get him gogo On March 21 2008 04:36 Fishball wrote: Everyone just hush, and wait for Day to come. See who lives and who dies. Then wait for our detectives to check our mayor out. After that point we continue to phase 2. The Bodyguard plan would be carried out in the end anyways. As the majority of townies voted for him, it would be pointless if we would want to stop Ace's plan here, except for one case - Ace is proved to be mafia. "Certain" individuals who oppose Ace's plan at this early stage of the game, even after fellow players who tried to explain the logic to him yet "failed", really looks suspicious to me. On March 21 2008 04:43 Fishball wrote: Yep, like hacking into TL's system and check all PMs for roles OK, all jokes aside, the answer would be no. However, we should be more logical. Like I said, Day hasn't even come yet, nor did any Detectives are able to check Ace yet. It's kinda pointless having arguments when things didn't even happen yet. A good example is that people were already debating against each other before Chuiu even sent out PMs for roles. On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote: All elements aside, just this specific case as an example. If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches. On March 21 2008 05:57 Fishball wrote: Oh I know its effective if the Mafia used it right. I'm just explaining the possible reasons to clazziquai of why a fellow mafia would role block a fellow mafia mayor. To decieve the townies. On March 21 2008 06:40 Fishball wrote: Seems like the potential mafia approve of this plan! They are QQing! On March 21 2008 06:44 Fishball wrote: Exactly the point, hence my post above yours, haha On March 22 2008 20:39 Fishball wrote: Re-read your own post again. You think it makes sense? Hey, I know you want to double-up your million dollars. Just give your money to me and I'll do it for you. No worries, I'll tell you how I'm going to do it once I get your money! Ha, I beat your ninja edit. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:12 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:if something is messed up tell me ill try to fix it, and the [-/b-][-/b-] below first spoilers i havent any idea where the mistake is, so just ignore that Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 05:44 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: alventenie isn't mafia, so you can cross him off your list. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:55 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I change my vote from araav to Ace he has some good plans for the town and seems like the best candidate to carry them out. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I change my vote from abstaining to voting for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 18:27 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Im abstaining from voting i changed my vote to mandalor last time but i didnt make new post(just edited) so it got counted as abstaining, so ill stick to abstaining. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 18:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:im abstaining i haven't really been following the thread that much so i'm not really sure who the major suspects are, nor have i really gone through clues so until there's a definitive plan that im aware of ill be abstaining. + Show Spoiler [zeks] + 114. zeks Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:45 zeks wrote:Sign me up for this game! Thanks a lot Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:21 zeks wrote:Ace and Ghar are the frontrunners right now, but I feel that Ace is the safer bet. Ace has my trust...for now Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:54 zeks wrote:Isn't it more advantageous to have both the mayor and pardoner on the same "line"? Should we consider that when voting...like making a sure a pair of mayor-pardoner that can work together well? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:29 zeks wrote:well lol, i guess since the King Brown Snake is from Australia...oh wait theres like 6 Australians Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:52 zeks wrote:All I gotta say is ... unlucky I guess. I think Ace deserves a second chance to redeem himself. Hopefully in future nights we can point a good finger to someone...we need stronger clues. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:58 zeks wrote:on a side note, it'd be totally ironic if L was part of the mafia... if anyone watched death note, he was the mastermind behind cracking down on light (judging people with the death note -- ie. mafia powers?) or maybe chuiu decided to give L killing power for an ironic twist... Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 04:01 zeks wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 06:01 zeks wrote:I abstain for now...gut feeling i'm getting is that a blue will go down again. Waiting for an announcement from Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:53 zeks wrote:I also change my vote from abstain to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 07:04 zeks wrote:My first vote goes to wurm, second vote goes to Ghar. Joining the bandwagon. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 16:14 zeks wrote:I change my vote to just Ghar Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 00:41 zeks wrote:I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 10:48 zeks wrote:I vote for Crazie-Penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 05:30 zeks wrote:I vote L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [{88}iNcontroL] + 112. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:sign me up! Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote: <3 Looks fun. I would be dumb to not want to be involved! Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:doh I wanted to plant bombs + Show Spoiler [~OpZ~] + 90. ~OpZ~ Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:Lol...I feel people should be required a signature...and a picture in profile, and maybe one on the TL.net gallery too...I like the gallery... Also, I feel activity should be confirmed like...once every 2 days before we start the game, BECAUSE...we may already have some inactives on the list... Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:I'm talkin about before we begin Kuja... Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:I don't like Ghar's plan...But I don't think he's Mafia...if he is...I would suspect Ace of being mafia also as he is so keen on Ghars plan...We need to find out who likes the movie reservior dogs...and Quentin Tarintino... Lot's of Pulp Fiction, Reservior Dogs, and Kill Bill references...or someone with a name like it. "The Wolf" - Pulp Fiction, Robert DeNiro Random Snake Names - Duh Kill Bill Mr. random colors - Reservior Dogs (Fuck Mr. Blonde is evil) Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:So let us find out who here likes Quentin Tarentino as that might be a clue... Kill Bill references Reservior dog references Pulp Fiction references (Mr. Wolf) Also, Ghar could be mafia, but I don't think he is....But if he is I would greatly suspect Ace. I voted for Fusion for Mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:Dude...People...Vote for Fusion dammit. He is full of win! Fuck Emp, tho I doubt he is mafioso... (I actually like Emp, but I doubt his deductive powers, unlike Fusions which has been proven...) =D Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:What role did emp claim again? Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:I believe Caller to be mafia...Due to his signature. "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead" Full of lead anyone? Clue may not be strong, but I'm looking for some sort of connection, and it is Day 1, we need someone to lynch... Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:dt is detective? Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:27 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know that we don't lynch people...I'm just saying it for whoever wins mayoral election. =D And possibly later, when we start lynching. Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:29 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm just pointing out that in the day 1 clue, DapperDan was pumped full of lead...And Caller's signature has lead in it...maybe some connection, but it is weak I know, but it is a start.....That's all I'm saying Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:56 ~OpZ~ wrote: Regardless whether its a bad idea, SOMEONE must be lynched. If someone who is lynched has a clue that MIGHT point to them, then that is better than lynching some random townie. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes, but if Emp is lynched after the mayoral election...we might be killing a dt... edit: Well, our mayor might be. | ||
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90. ~OpZ~ Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: But like you said...If we follow that definition strictly then Mayor can be stopped from using his double lynches....So if Pardoner's pardon can be stopped then why shouldn't the Mayor's double lynch be stopped too? Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:Also...In memory of Live2Win last game.....I am changing my vote from Fusion (Even tho I still want him mayor, but her has no chance) to Emp, because I don't want another L2W fiasco where we get another role killed because we don't believe anyone. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:19 ~OpZ~ wrote:Mafia can stop double lynches?!?!?! Lord plz Save Us!! Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:No I disagree. If Emp is pardoner he should be able to pardon, as he might be detective....and be more inclined to know who is mafioso Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 22:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep; Guard me Jesus through the night, And wake me with the morning light. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know....Buuuut it sounds better to be guarded through the night and wake up tot he morning light. Some people teach it this way to not sound so morbid...And I chose it, because I'd rather be alive in the morning... Lol Also...All this anti Ace sentiment...I am suspecting everyone that suddenly jumped on a band wagon against him. Complaining about our mayor not being lucky with his idea? Big freakin deal. We can't change it, get over it, he made a mistake JUST BECAUSE he wasn't lucky. A mayor is better than no mayor, so stop trying to get people against him. Mafia Scum Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:Whoa wait, a thought just occurred to me....If we have all detectives watching Ace... Can the suicide bomber hit Ace even with body guard protection or not? Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ok...I knew the question was asked earlier...I just...didn't feel like sifting through 70 pages... Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:Wow...Attack me again why don't you? The special role was updated AFTER the question was posed. Just like Saboteur was updated after the question for it was asked. Shit qrs, quit trying to start shit. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: Yea...The last Edit was yesterday...What does that have to do with anything? It will be edited a lot more times too. Now I'm done saying stuff to you in the thread, you have no need to reply to this in this thread, so if you would like to continue arguing the point I was trying to make by stating if it wasn't like that (suicide worked through BG's), then he could just bomb the mayor, get all 4 detectives, and call it a night, eh? Now plz...If you want to call me an idiot, lets take it to PM's and stop cluttering the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:40 ~OpZ~ wrote: Active in PM's huh? Who can verify your activity? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also. I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur. Edit: (Clarity) Just to clarify, and make what I said more easily understood. He was roleblocked so he loses his extra votes which are used whether he wants to or not, I think that much is true atleast (that this is used regardless of him wanting to), and his double lynch, which he chooses to use, as opposed to being forced to. So seeing as he doesn't get 6 votes on whoever he votes for, that will be proof he was roleblocked. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 11:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: Edited the post to clarify what I meant...Basically...Day 2 he's roleblocked, so we will know if he is because we will see how many votes he gets when he votes. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: My ninja edit>>> Bob's post...buuuuut I still think more people will listen to him ;__; Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:23 ~OpZ~ wrote: No...I trust him because his plan. The roleblock is just further proof that he is Townie aligned. I understand they can MOST LIKELY roleblock each other, BUT my point is just saying after no detective posts tomorrow and Ace only has 1 vote, we will see a townie we can trust 100%. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:100% After Day Starts...Lol Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:08 ~OpZ~ wrote: Right to vote isn't affected, meaning he can't stop him from voting...But are we sure the number of votes he gets isn't? Ace said himself he will be limited to only one vote tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:Lol...Believe Emp when he says it...his clues couldn't of been anymore obvious...all about higher powers and what not... Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Actually.....Lol Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:32 ~OpZ~ wrote:wurm and bumatlarge, most epic posts ever...Lol...I looked at the times too before reading bums last post and laughed. Figured one was copying the other. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:Okay...I am still suspecting Caller now. The cell phone clue, bringing up him trying to call and not get through because it won't work. Maybe the cell phone was just brought up to bring it in, and it not working was part of the story? The other part, eating lead. Caller's quote has a list of edibles (I think, don't feel like hunting his quote as he doesn't post in the thread much, which I believe is him trying to lay low, and it ends with lead. Still trying to decipher some more clues. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:Buck Shot = Lead Shot... And also, before you eat me up about the post I made suspecting caller, read the whole thing. "The cell phone use might just be part of the story?" Yes, I posted that with it. So no need to post telling me "It might just be part of the story" because I've already said I'm aware of that. The only reasons I'm so willing to suspect caller, he was in last game and showed a large amount of activity, this game his activity has went down, the cell phone use, the eating lead references, and the small rocks in his quote. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...And I realize that the swooping down clue can point at me scorch. I just noticed it after I read your post a while back...It made me bust out laughing cuz that is so how a scourge would attack and imagining a human doing it lolololol. Sadly, me assuring anyone I'm not Mafia would not clear my name, SO I was going to ignore the post, but I figured that too would make me look suspicious, if not even more so. So, being unaware of what I should do, I'm just going to post I saw it. =D Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:I was just assuming they decided who to hit, then messaged the list... Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Extremely weak. I still think Ghar is the best vote. I wasn't bandwagoning until I saw that image...Lol which I consider a pretty important find... Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:"That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday)" I would like to call more attention to this post. It was made by heros)pink Wtf man, wtf. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Honestly Pinkie, you said it so hateful like the idea disgusted you. If you are townie aligned, you would rather more time. Fair or not, you also argued it is Easter weekend, so people might not be able to be here, SO then you counter your own argument to say don't give more time? Suspicious behavior. Very. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:I just chase you around Falcynn...Lol... Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:If we had Village Idiot as a role, I'd guess it was Pinkie. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:35 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was about to mention SEN's minerals ;>> Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:Damn Quebecians or whatever they are Posted in night7/main_page.121 Posted in night7/main_page.123 Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:48 ~OpZ~ wrote: Lol...Why don't we link the tactics in attack to you, I don't know. But I'ma look at it now. I'm hardly worth it, but let them. Seriously, use a Jack's role check on me. It'd be a waste of time tho... Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:No...Mr. Blonde didn't attack like a dragon...He attacked like a scourge, just didn't blow himself up like one... Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes, but causing confusion is one thing...Posing and shortening the list of suspects the clues point at to 5 instead of 120+ are two extremely different things. Now... I do realize a way Chuiu could...I guess...Balance a near fool proof strategy...He could not disclose how many of whatever roles are playing are in the game and we wouldn't be sure people are lieing or not. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:How the hell am I giving them a list...Thats more like...Giving them a list of WHO not to target... Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oi....I hate being told what to do like that. Granted, it is a good way to catch the mafia... Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oh I love Pen island! Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:01 ~OpZ~ wrote:I've suspected Wurm for a good minute...Dunno why tho...he just hasn't posted, but him abstaining once Ace had PROVEN Mandalor.... Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:Look at it like this guys... Wurm can't go ANYWHERE... I'm pming this to Ace...nvm... Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:Aceeeeeee what are your notes on me! Lol...and the first impression...xD Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...Damn...Lol...I didn't post during the mayoral elections except in support of Emp... =/ Now I feel left out ;-; Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 11:18 ~OpZ~ wrote: New people shouldn't be voting for lynching you and Ace so you should have 3 and 4 votes each, so you would only need on DT check for you and him. But the other ones you'd need them. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:sit lose then Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 01:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Kiwi? ;-; I feel confused.... Also...Seriously....Looking at Ace's plan and saying it's retarded or saying he's not confirmed...Ask Chuiu if Mafia's roles get told when you ask about someones role, and you tell us what he says. Then ask yourself: Do you feel lucky? Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ow.... Oh...So guess what Alethios....Chuiu just proved your theory entirely false...Seeing as Mafia is considered a role...Just as TOWNIE is considered a role.... So I'd assume you are now a suspect. Atleast...yea... Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:106-BuGzlToOnl Display Name : BuGzlToOnl Birthday : February 12, 1988 Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 28th of November 2006 Quote : “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” - Jimi Hendrix "As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him" Mafioso? ;>_> Posted in night7/main_page.149 Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:It is most certainly Bum AND what about...The BugZ and Music connection?! Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:23 ~OpZ~ wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=BuGzlToOnl Bugz quote is Hendrix Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:Hey...More attention on Queasy plz Posted in night7/main_page.177 Posted in night7/main_page.178 Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:Aw fuck....two detectives...One night...fuck...god damn.... Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:.....Well...Safe to say arraav is mafia...Lol.... atleast, if any of those people were in the channel when he came on it. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yea...But the lists might have two different mafioso...Useless might be mafia on Ghar and Chez or fusion can be mafia on the other (Or you yourself for the Ghar list...) Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:31 ~OpZ~ wrote: No need to trust Ace...Trust New104's question to Chuiu before Night ended. He asked for the number of Mafia that voted for Ace. It was either it turned up empty, no Mafia, or it turned up one, and my name had just been added to the list right before the vote ended. So if no Mafia, or One mafia + 1 more Char added to the original list, I'm a confirmed townie, or special role aligned with town. =D Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:GG useless? Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind... I I highly suspect Blind Albino... Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more.... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:I would kinda like Ace to atleast vote... Chuiu you also put me down as the wrong vote, I voted for Energies... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 05:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes and no...The dude running the mafia last game didn't post much...if at all...kinda like you lol... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:I've been active...despite posting a lot...Whenever I say anything it isn't really listened to... I say vote for Blind Albino Posted in night7/main_page.190 Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: That's implying the code names have nothing to do with the person and that it's the same person every time for each code name. And how did he come up with the code names for each person... Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albino#Types_of_human_albinism Check it, types of albinos can have blonde hair to red hair..... Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 00:59 ~OpZ~ wrote: wtf...have you even posted in this thread before? Posted in night7/main_page.192 Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive... So many clues...and no one votes for him... Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: The fact that you are so quiet in this thread and only post when accused, yet manage to vote every vote I think is good enough. The rock throwing clue is another one. Failure of phones. And of course the lead repetitions... Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:Seriously....Am I the only one noticing Caller only posts when he's accused of being Mafia? How can he be so active, YET doesn't post at all OTHER than when he's accused? is that not suspicious in the least? Seriously... Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote: My post was more to gauge your reaction about how I knew you'd come out of no where. I even pm'd somebody before I did it just to show them how you would magically appear. For not being active you manage to see EVERY time I call you a mafioso.... Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 16:57 ~OpZ~ wrote: Holy fuck...Fusions on a roll...A rick roll. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 16:59 ~OpZ~ wrote: Hard to do without many detectives...I suspect you now for arguing so stupidly against fusions golden post... Posted in night7/main_page.202 Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:Well I apologize to Caller...As I thought he was mafia...but turned out to be a BG... And...I'm not confirmed innocent no more...But...I am Townie... And I'm very curious as to how people come out of hiding when they are accused of being mafia... Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: Shallow....This is pretty damning in my opinion...I imagine Chuiu knows how to spell straight... Edit: Confirmation on you knowing how to spell straight Chuiu? I still say vote for GeneralStan. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: I believe Fusion... I think his suspect list (edit) and clue interpretations (/edit) should be reposted...People need to see it...I will be voting for General Stan... But Fusion why are you voting for Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 08:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: So is Mynock's death...Strait is used instead of Straight...And the thing is...Anything said during night could be a clue.... And just because a line referring to Queasy killing someone was used doesn't mean it couldn't be a clue..... Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 08:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:"Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock." He still misspelled the word straight and put strait there... So either Chuiu doesn't know how to spell straight...OR...He purposely spelled it strait... Maybe Chuiu can confirm that he can't spell straight correctly... Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: I dunno....Has Camlito ever posted in the thread yet comes back to defend iMderek and alventine....Honestly I suspect Alventine some what...for being like the hero of last game. A martyr. Being in a trusted position but against the town...But if thats based on that, then it could be Ace or our Pardoner, but I believe Ace to be innocent.... Oh...Clues are hard to make on people who have no information in their profile...Like Alventine... Personally I think Chuiu should only allow people with a pic, and sig, to play in the game... Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:I think the mafia member is imderek... Hamlet quote, Sword fight in Hamlet. I don't believe he's posted much...but has been voting. The story of Hamlet revolves around change, treachery, murder. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership" Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: What are the odds hot shot is mafia? He only smiles in the dark... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:Why are we not going after General Stan? Fusion all but read his role pm... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Just because names are used doesn't mean they all point to the same person...just the fact that swords were used could point to him (or others). What do you need? A "To be, or Not to be" in one of the day posts...? As Fusion said, is it confirmed that they every clue in that persons name section points directly to the name used? Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 09:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: I had already said I was no longer confirmed innocent a while ago...despite being innocent... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 09:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oi...Don't vote me before Useless...I'm seriously townie....o_o.... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: My reasons better...Darkive or w/e his name is death on a list with 1 mafia in which Eti307 also voted for... edit: New's list Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:True...anyway it goes, I'm innocent...hmm... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ah shit...I looked at what ace said and confused myself...disregard what I said... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know...I was arguing for Eti...but...Within reason...I can't prove him innocent, and don't really care, as I am innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:08 ~OpZ~ wrote: WOW WE MISSED THIS?! HOW THE FUCK...HE KNEW CALLER WAS BG?! heeeeeeeeelllllllllllllloooo obvious mafia HOW can someone SEEM BG from posts? Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:For somereason...I think that Chainsaw is important ;>> Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:Hey....Chuiu how is the kidney stone man? The corn tea work any? Hope its better....Let us know...we all appreciate what you are doing, even though we don't say that much =P Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:Is the medic still informed if he blocked a hit, even if the person hit isn't? (I know he isn't if he's killed, but is the medic still informed in that situation?) Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:53 ~OpZ~ wrote: We all must remember...Chuiu makes clues based on his analysis of our names and objects in our profile...Not on the thoughts we put behind our names... Like...with my name... OpZ came from, Covert_Ops, Covert Operations. Names I played with back when I played Snipers maps regularly on b.net. Which I related to sneaking and sniping...Which I don't know if Chuiu would know that...Shit...Cuz the name could be taken other ways... @_@ So it could very well be the female villain but I doubt it...Not a very strong link there plexa...I don't know if I really like the DrDragoon one either, could you repost your analysis on him where the clues are shown (he very well could be it, I just haven't been to sure ever since you mentioned it just because I figured it to be a stretch...He did sound very caveman like with the using a rock...)...and the Ninja4eva one could point at G.s)naruto...He hasn't been saying much lately...But neither has ninja...Not sure how much I feel about SMB either as California mountain snake... I do like the thing you said about clazziquai though...It sounded pretty convincing... Edit: Added the quote... Posted in night7/main_page.244 Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 07:01 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...True...Ok... Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:No night time analysis tonight? Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 00:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: You don't get it. If L alone protects Plexa, and L is mafia, if Plexa isn't hit...L must be mafia. (Plexa's been hit, what every night for 2 or 3 nights?) And if Plexa is hit and killed, first we see if we can reconstruct the kill list, and then if 6 others died (or other variations involving medic saves), and plexa died...L would be proven mafia...even though he kinda is... Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 11:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:Suspect wise... How do you feel about amber[Light] Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 07:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: I just wanted to see L spam "OMG HE'S MAFIAAAAAAAAA" ;-; Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 07:57 ~OpZ~ wrote: I vote for fusionsdf Good with his buddy. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:I change my vote from Fusion to Empyrean In Memory Of Live2Win. We doubted his role last game....and yea...we all know what happened Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 11:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:I Vote For Ghar Until Ace says otherwise. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 17:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for Bumatlarge and Queasy Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 13:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:I want to change my first vote from bumatlarge to Ghar and my second from queasy to Ace Sry...Chuiu Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for Energies Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 04:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Chuiu...My vote was for Energies not TranceStorm Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 12 2008 00:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:...I guess....I'll vote for some of them... I vote for Evil monkey and Siefo Despite it being band wagony...Lol... Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote: me vote crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 05:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:Vote Count: L - 9 (10 counting shallow) HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 37 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 11:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for L and ulszz | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [498] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:19 498 wrote:I say you lynch 498, he is full of deceit. + Show Spoiler [BluzMan] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:12 BluzMan wrote:A quick suggestion: Since I've already played mafia on a forum that excels at this (20+ seasons), it's really better to make a separate thread for each day and each voting. Close treads after day/voting ends, it's in fact easier to find them in the closed forum than in general, besides, no mess ups. + Show Spoiler [Chuiu] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 13:58 Chuiu wrote: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town, each day will reveal clues pointing to such individuals allowing the town to analyze them and point fingers all they want. Its much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. As many people sign up as you want and the game is balanced between a group of mafia and a large town with a variety of roles. This mafia game works slightly different than the normal one (read: Mafia), so I'll explain it a bit more. Once everyone who wishes to play is signed up a mayor will be elected. The mayor himself has a special role but once he's elected he will have bodyguards (depending on the number of people in the game) keeping him from dying at night. During the night mafia will collectively decide on and send in their hits to me, who they want dead (its a good idea to discuss them during day so you know ahead of time). Any player with a special role that can act during night must PM me their wishes each night. During the day you will see the bloody death of many of your friends with a handful of clues left behind. Clues can be taken from anywhere, so long as I see it relating to the person they are intended for. This means posts, names, sigs, profiles, blogs, things related to names, etc. Any player with a special role that can act during day must PM it to me so I can set it in motion. The whole town, including the mafia, will meet and discuss this turn of events and everyone will vote for who they want lynched that day. If the mafia at any time outnumber the townspeople they win the game. The goal for the townspeople is to lynch all the members of the mafia by interpreting clues and voting for them during the day. The goal of the mafia, of course, is to kill the townspeople with murderous precision. This round I will attempt to make more fast paced. Each day or night will last a fixed 48 hours, but there is no guarantee life won't interfere (gimme a break, I work and go to school just like most of you guys). 48 hours is a small amount of time to wait, really, and I feel its plenty of time for people to catch up on the thread and make sound decisions. Rules: (they are all subject to change before the start of the game!) General game rules: 1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again. 2. Try to keep posting mafia game related, the thread gets hard to read and annoying when there are 12 posts of spam per 1 post of actual content. 3. New rule, you must vote. Whether its 'I abstain from voting' or not you must cast a vote. Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. Signups: PM me or post here. If I miss or forget your name politely remind me, this game gets overwhelming sometimes. Remember what clues are based off of. If you don't have much information on the site or relating to you for me to access then don't blame me if people easily find out who you are by my clues. The more the merrier also, sign up, the game doesn't take much time to play, just read and post once every couple days and there is no max number of players that can participate. If you wanted to be signed up and I missed you for some reason, please let me know. If you didn't want to be signed up and I forgot to remove your name or know someone who did want to be removed, please let me know - Dapperdan, a mafia game veteran, has volunteered to help me run this game. The Town (names will be marked according to role and stroked out if a player is dead or revealed) 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 5. 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 8. CDRdude 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 13. 14. imDerek 15. 16. Puosu 17. randombum (Pardoner) 18. 19. 20. 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 23. 24. Alventenie 25. 26. 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 30. 31. Energies 32. 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 45. smurfingchobo 46. 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 49. GranDim 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 53. Ace (Mayor) 54. MTF 55. MoRe_mInErAls 56. Camlito 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 61. 62. 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 65. 66. 67. 0cz3c 68. 69. 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 75. 76. jtan 77. 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 80. 81. 82. Ninja4ever. 83. 84. 85. ahrara_ 86. 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 90. ~OpZ~ 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 94. unsoundlogic 95. 96. 97. suresh0t 98. 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 102. 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 108. 109. 110. 111. 112. 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 115. 116. Last Romantic 117. 118. Plexa 119. 120. 121. 122. 123. 124. 125. 126. 127. 128. 129. 130. rpf Wait list: CubEdIn, Cube, Kwidowmaker, [GiTM]-Ace, atmablade, ydg, 70 of 110 Townies alive. (including special town-aligned roles. IE, all non-mafia.) Mafia killing power formula this round: Max 9, Min 3. Mafia / 2 = killing power per night. (rounded down) 13 of 20 Mafia alive. (Current night killing power: 6) 1 of 1 Saboteur alive. 0 of 1 Suicide Bomber alive. Mayor is elected. (3 double lynches remaining, voting power of 6) Pardoner is elected. (6 pardons remaining) 2 of 6 Bodyguards alive. 2 of 4 Vigilante alive. 0 of 4 Detective alive. 7 of 7 Veteran alive. 4 of 7 Paramedic alive. 0 of 2 Mad Hatter alive. 0 of 2 Jack alive. Roles (you will randomly be given a role via PM once the game starts!) The Town: Towny - You have no special powers! All you can do is participate in the game and vote. Mayor - The mayor, elected at the start of the game, has numerous roles. His special abilities are: increased vote count (depending on the number of people in the game), ability to declare X double lynches anytime during the game (must notify me night before or early on in the day so voting is arranged accordingly), cannot be killed during night while his bodyguard(s) are alive, and has the super special ability to lynch whoever he chooses right after being elected. Only the mayor knows who the bodyguards are. When double lynches are in effect each player gets two vote on two different people. Pardoner - As a check and balance to the Mayor, the pardoner is the runner up to the mayor. He has the protection of the very same bodyguards as the Mayor and remains invincible at night also. His special ability, however, is to pardon up to X people from being lynched at any time during the course of the game. He must notify me while voting is coming to a close (you'll usually be able to tell who is going to get lynched towards the end of voting) or right after I have ended it. I will wait a bit between votes being tallied and the shift into night when people are lynched so you will also have time then to notify me. The pardoner may not pardon himself and he may not pardon more than one person per day. Bodyguard - Random townies will receive the role of bodyguard once the mayor and pardoner have been elected. The mayor alone will know who these people are. The bodyguard cannot be a mafia or special role, he can only be a regular towny. Vigilante - You have the ability to kill up to two people of your choice at any night phase in the game. You cannot use both at once and may wait to use them whenever you feel like. A clue will be left behind that points to you for the mafia (or the town) to interpret. You must also wait until the second night of the game to act. If your hits ever overlap with a mafia hit I will cancel it and notify you the following day and you will be able to use it again. If your hit overlaps with another Vigilante I will cancel all other hits but the first one and will notify anyone who's hit didn't go through the following day and you will be able to use it again. You will not be told if it was mafia or murderer that caused your hit to be canceled. Detective - You have three abilities you may use. You have the ability to ask me whether or not a specific clue points to a specific person and get a yes/no answer. You have the ability to, twice a game, ask me what role a specific person has. And for the last ability you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person (cannot use this on mayor election). You may only use one ability per day/night cycle. Veteran - You've been around the block a few times and know how to escape an attack on your life. But for how long? The veteran gets three night lives, meaning he must be hit by three attackers to kill him (much like having two paramedics watching over you, except you lose one life if you incur one attack). If a paramedic is protecting you you will not lose a life for the hit the paramedic protects. If you incur a hit I will notify you via PM the following day. Paramedic - You have the ability to watch one other player during night, which you must tell me about before the end of night (preferably before night even starts). You may choose not to use this ability also. When a player is watched he cannot die unless the number of people attacking him outnumbers the number of people watching him or his night lives. In other words if two mafia attack a person being watched by one paramedic, the person will die. A clue will not be left behind if he is saved, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic and the person saved know if they were targeted and saved. Mad Hatter - May lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 3). If he is killed he will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). He may remove them from players at any time in the game to get them back but if a player is killed with one on them while the Mad Hatter is still alive he loses that bomb. Jack - Of all trades, master of none. You may use up to six abilities from other roles in the game however you are restricted to the very same rules that apply to them when you use them. You may not use the same role in two consecutive day/night cycles in a row. The following roles you may use are: Vigilante, Detective, Paramedic, and Veteran. You may not use two in one day (ie: Detective during day, Paramedic during night). The Mafia: Mafia - Your Don wishes nothing but to take over the world, but first you must take care of your home town! You will know who your fellow mafia members are and get the ability to kill townies each night. You may not target mafia members, however. Mafia killing power will be decided once signups are closed. Saboteur - The saboteur is a special mafia role, he may disable one players abilities once a day/night cycle (excluding the right to vote). Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night. You may not use this on the mayor election lynch and only the player whose abilities are disabled will be informed of the action. You may not use this role on the same person two consecutive day/nights in a row. Suicide Bomber: Has the ability to suicide into a person killing them regardless of whether or not they are a Veteran or protected by a Paramedic (Mayor and Pardoner are still protected from this hit if Bodyguards are alive). If there are Paramedics protecting the targeted person and/or the Suicide Bomber then they die as well. There are many roles not listed that may be used in future mafias, but for right now this is what we're working with. Credit goes out to: Mini Moose 2707, DapperDan2006, Toa, and everyone else who has ever run a game of mafia. The last round of Team Liquid Mafia: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251 What your role PM's should look like: Links to important posts: Signup Confirmations Day 1 - Votes - Night Day 2 - Votes - Night Day 3 - Votes* - Night Day 4 - Votes - Night Day 5 - Votes* - Night Day 6 - Votes - Night Day 7 - Votes* - Night * Denotes days with a double lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 Chuiu wrote:Please note some rules have changed and some have been added. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:03 Chuiu wrote:Please check to see if you're already on the list before asking to be signed up. Likewise please let me know if you want off the list if you are. EDIT: I wont be updating the list for a bit, expect the game to start on Sunday also. Time to unlock more ssbb characters... Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote:I gotta repeat this before I go to bed because I'm still seeing it. Please don't ask to be signed up if you already are! I never thought I would have to say that. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 13:59 Chuiu wrote: a. No problem, we can do that via blogs. b. I plan on replacing inactive players with people on the wait list and/or kill off inactive players and giving their special roles to active players. I would probably end up banning the inactive person from future games. Also, this may be the last game for a while we play with tons of people. I'm probably going to make a cap after this game and let the first say 40 or so players who sign up get into the next. Signups for that one obviously aren't open so don't even mention it yet. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 05:31 Chuiu wrote: Yes it can, but bodyguard protection will keep them alive. They're a part of the mafia team so they add to the kill count. So in a way, yes, but remember that the mafia work as a group to come up with their kill list. He gets the bomb back. I will never add a rule preventing people from editing their posts. But I also don't want to see people editing them 1 or 2 days after posting. That is a good idea, I'm going to do something along the lines of that though... Only DapperDan did the KF91 robot clues, I had actual clues pointing to his name and birthday that were really obvious. I'm not going to do separate threads for each day, I don't want to and I don't want other people to keep track of several different threads and be moving around a lot. I will have a separate thread for voting thought, I like that idea. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 05:38 Chuiu wrote:Signups are closed! Sorry if you didn't make it in. If you signed up and I didn't add you to the list PM me and link me to your post so I can confirm you did sign up before I closed signups. PM me if you want to be on the wait list, this will not sign you up for next game, however, because next games format will be much different. The wait list is for people to be subbed in for inactive players. If you are on it you will get to replace an inactive player and get his role as the game progresses. ALSO: I want people to confirm they want to play the game in the following blog: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68059 All you have to do is make a post there, nothing more. Just a quick 1 second post. FINALLY The game will start tomorrow evening. Roles will be sent out and day will be posted and mayor election will start. Remember you do not lynch people the first day, the elected mayor does. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 08:16 Chuiu wrote:Actually its been a moderator changing the title every time because I cannot. I'll see if I can get one to change it for me. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 13:37 Chuiu wrote:93 people have confirmed so far. Looks like this will be a big game of mafia after all! Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 03:01 Chuiu wrote:People have about 10 more hours before I send out roles and make the day post. EDIT: Updated count is 113 Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:13 Chuiu wrote: Ah sorry, that was taken from a possible detective role that had 3 abilities, I forgot to edit that sentence. For the first question its a simple yes/no answer and for the second question you will be told the role of that person. Yes, Jack only gets veteran for the day/night he wishes to use it. I've decided to extend the confirmations one more day to account for people being gone during the weekend and the fact I never said I would do this until the last minute. The link, again, is here: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68059 All you have to do is post and you're in. I will hand out roles and post day on monday. EDIT: The count is 119 also. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:21 Chuiu wrote:Your role: Town Psycho. Go insane with it. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:06 Chuiu wrote: Thats one of the things I actually respect about the company, they won't release a game until its done. He re-gains lost lives. Lol, please don't! I stay up very late and work pretty long on the day posts sometimes and theres no telling how long it will take for me to write one up since they're all very different many times with unique clues (though many times not). Just get some sleep and hope its there by morning. Side note, I'm working on roles right now ... I just wish I would have gotten to it earlier because DapperDan isn't here and I need to talk to him about it. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:39 Chuiu wrote:Roles done, going to start writing day post in a minute here. You can see how many of each role are in the game from day post right now. Edit: You'll know when I'm about to post day when you see your role come in. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:00 Chuiu wrote:I live in central time zone. Its 12am for me right now. :o Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:55 Chuiu wrote: 20. Yes, already answered this. The mafia will know who they are once I start the game. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote:Roles have been sent out and I hope someone with the capabilities of adding CC to the private message system reads this. If you did not get a role or got two different roles please let me know via PM so I can fix it. God forbid I make one mistake in 130 people. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:41 Chuiu wrote: The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their lives hanged on the balance. Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive. DapperDan made the first move, however. "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. He took them anyway. Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. Aghast but ready Chuiu took the opportunity while everyones attention was diverted. He sprinted to the window to his right and broke through it, knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall. Success, he was almost free. He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!". "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. [noCluesArea] Its time to elect a mayor and a pardoner. When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68177 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. To everyone running for mayor, when it looks like you're going to win I would like you to write up a short inaugural speech to be given in the night post after the election. Short as in a small paragraph like this one. And with that ... good luck and have fun everyone! Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:05 Chuiu wrote:AH! I just made a minor grammatical correction to my post. "He made him face to face halfway pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again." to "He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again." I've never been good at proof reading my own stuff. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:40 Chuiu wrote: As long as he's not using 'scum' and '<->' ten times a post... (seriously though <-> started to annoy the fuck out of me) Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 13:58 Chuiu wrote: Combine the count between them and it would get close to 10 many times. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:53 Chuiu wrote:They can be. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:56 Chuiu wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, I was waiting for you to post before I made any action against you. I believe you but for the sake of the other players if at any time I think you and chezinu are the same person I will not hesitate from removing you from the game. Please post that sort of stuff in this thread, that is what this thread is for after all. It doesn't matter how long your post is it still belongs here. As for Falcynn's blog I have nothing against this, he is only collecting information and organizing it into an easy to read list. But please keep your comments about clues and such in this thread for the benefit of all players. Now as for the Saboteur role, I have decided to change it so that the Saboteur cannot use the role block on the same person two day/nights in a row. It never dawned on me that the mayor/pardoner role would be targeted with it and keeping one or the other from using their role the whole game would ruin the purpose of the way they are designed. Night will start in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:02 Chuiu wrote:Also, and I cannot believe people are still doing this so I'm going to use the bold red text once again to try to get their attention: I will not count your votes if you don't make them in the vote thread. It can be found here: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68177 Please read the voting rules before making a vote and please remember that you MUST vote this game or you will be replaced by other players due to inactivity. An abstain from voting counts as a vote, but you must declare that you abstain from voting. Yeah I was just about to get started on that. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:15 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 4 MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie Camlito Energies BlindAlbino randombum - 22 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 96 of 130 possible voters accounted for. A final vote count will be made in a few hours and then I will move to night soon after that. Mayor candidates, have your person-to-lynch and inaugural speech ready for this evening. PM it to me now if you like. Also I think I forgot to mention it this round but your runner up (to be pardoner) cannot be lynched by you. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:04 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Final Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 3 MoRe_mInErAls wurm Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ bumatlarge Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ NeaX goldenkrnboi Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 Alventenie Camlito Energies Mandalor SonuvBob AcrossFiveJulys LucasWoJ randombum - 28 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT French_Toast Unforgiven_ve 0cz3c BlindAlbino clazziquai Queasy fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 Siefu fusionsdf ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 3 RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 99 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night in approximately half an hour. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 Chuiu wrote:Meh if Ace doesn't respond soon I might just kill off a random person for him. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 Chuiu wrote:OR MAYBE RANDOMBUM WOULD LIKE TO BE MAYOR? Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:34 Chuiu wrote:Ace pretty much told me he would be ready 3 hours ago. I'm going to give him another half hour or so before I decide what to do. He should have sent all that shit in 5 hours ago when I basically asked him to in the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:36 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] As the election came to a close two bodies were found in the town square of Liquidia. The town was shocked at the sight of two respected members of the town not only being found to be guilty of many things but to be dead also. Before anything, Ace gave his speech: "Thanks for giving me a chance to lead this town to victory. I'm sure that my plan and other strategies will work if we all keep our focus, and keep the confusion down. I urge Innocent Townies not to post confusing things and make wild accusations, that's just the kind of thing the Mafia wants for us to do - ruin ourselves. Let's get going!" He announced that the Liquidia police force has found many clues leading to the evidence of mafia in the town. Declaring it the towns job to help find these people he announced that each day the town would have to vote on a suspect to be lynched after trial and to start off todays lynch he would choose {88}iNcontroL. {88}iNcontroL walked up to the newly setup stage for lynching and was prepared for his death. The switch was thrown, as the life drained out of {88}iNcontroL his hat fell to the ground and his skin turned blue. The town, unsure of what to think, left shocked at the turn of events. Would they live through this or would the mafia take over? It was too soon to tell, but things didn't look good from the start. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:27 Chuiu wrote: Inactive players will get replaced by a player on the wait list or if they had a special role it will be reassigned to an active towny after two days of inactivity (not voting). Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:40 Chuiu wrote: If I was going to allow resurrection I would just use my Jesus role idea. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:43 Chuiu wrote: Sure they could, for the sake of being a good sport I would hope they don't. But being dead doesn't really do much but prove someones role and there really isn't anything I can do to stop that from happening. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:02 Chuiu wrote:Just to clear something up, Detectives could have and may have been using their roles since I gave them to them. Like, ie: during the election. There is no restriction to when they can ask me a question just that they may only ask me one question per day/night cycle. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:09 Chuiu wrote:I answer them when I read it. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote: The saboteur may target anybody, I thought that was obvious. Extra votes are an ability of the mayor. Abilities are disabled by the Saboteur. Ergo extra votes are disabled. I put extra care and dedication. to every post I make to make sure they are spelling and gramatical correctness Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:05 Chuiu wrote:I just got home and I'm trying to get a hold of Dapperdan because I think he might have gotten a head start on the day post. I'll get it up as soon as possible but he's not responding right now so I don't really want to do anything until I hear from him. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:12 Chuiu wrote:DAY A lightning bolt came from the sky and struck down HotZhot into his grave. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:40 Chuiu wrote:Dapperdan just logged off instead of answering me so I guess I gotta do this thing from scratch. Expect it in a couple hours. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:58 Chuiu wrote: Here are some reasons I cannot and will not do it that way: 1. 2. Gives each player more time to PM me what they want to do with their role. 3. Not every night is the same. Mafia may kill 9 one night, 1 the next. I like flowing the day post so its one story and not 9 individual stories strung together (remember the theater scene from last game?). Though it doesn't always work out that way. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:30 Chuiu wrote: Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Unfortunately Mynocks neighbors were alerted by this blast, fortunately they were being taken care of the very same moment. NeaX and goldenkrnboi were drinking and gaming, not giving much thought to what had happened that day when they heard the shot from the house next to them. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. They were going to confront the man when another came through the back door. Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. NeaX didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly. Yogurt and OneBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door. They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Yogurt and OneBlueAugust saw them and OneBlueAugust asked them what was going on in the house. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. The mafia had tried their best that night and had finished with their hits, but no one could explain the blasted remains of CTStalker that night. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68352 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:32 Chuiu wrote: If someone gets hit with more than one hit and saved they'll know. Each medic will only know they saved them from one hit though and won't know if someone else saved them also. I'm pretty sure the cellphone thing last game pointed to KF91. Like he was going to dial 911 but came up short or something like that, I don't remember my exact wording but I did a couple clues like that toward KF91. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:25 Chuiu wrote: I intended to change it a long time ago to say that but simply forgot. Its rounded down this game as well. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:49 Chuiu wrote:I don't know where you people are getting this 'mafia vote on who to kill' crap. Its the same as it was last game and its clearly written in the roles that they decide as a group who to kill. Night comes in about 7 hours. Tons of people were bitching about the game not moving fast enough and begging for 24h days and now you guys want 72 hours? I'm not extending it, if I do that then the 48h thing will mean nothing. But that doesn't mean I won't delay day or night due to personal reasons. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:23 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The towns decision was unanimous and Mandalor was setup to die. Everyone screamed and roared as they threw the switch. Mandalor's skin turned red, the color of blood, and the town had come one step closer to justice and revenge for their fallen families and friends. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:If anyone had a question in the thread I won't be able to answer it till tomorrow, and I'm like 8 pages behind. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:30 Chuiu wrote: He's doesn't keep up with the thread much, nor is he ever on this late. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 14:12 Chuiu wrote:Hey bad news everyone. Remember a couple weeks ago when I wasn't sure if I passed the kidney stone because I said the pain stopped but I didn't see it come out. Well ITS STILL INSIDE ME. I was going to get a cat scan today to check for it but I canceled it last second and just an hour ago I started feeling pain again. I'm not sure how this is going to affect the normal schedule of things but I'll certainly try my hardest to keep the game running smoothly, hopefully Dapperdan will be able to do most of the work this round for me. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:20 Chuiu wrote:My mother has advised me to drink ... corn tea. I'm supposed to take the hairs of corn and boil them with water then drink that. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing working? Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 14:57 Chuiu wrote:I'll get day up tomorrow afternoon. Sit tight. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 08:17 Chuiu wrote:Detectives cannot find out how many mafia abstain from voting because they're not actually voting for a person. The ability requires that they vote for a person: About the detective role, if he asks me what the role of a player is he is told what the role of the player is. For a list of roles in the game please refer to the first post under roles, theres 13 of them in total. Theres nothing unclear about this. Also, good luck to Chiui, whoever that is, I know what you're going through! Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:22 Chuiu wrote: Well dapperdan seems to be ignoring me (probably too lazy to help or something) and I haven't had a chance to get around to that so we'll see how much time I get today after I write up the day post. Edit: Oh yeah the pain stopped again sometime late tuesday. I guess my kidney stone just wanted to randomly remind me it still exists since haven't had a chance to get a follow up cat scan done. But I'm feeling good for the time being ... but I'm probably going to need an operation or something to get this thing out of me since its been like three weeks now. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 11:21 Chuiu wrote: There are a few different ways they can get it out according to my doctor. They can directly make an incision and cut it out, they can grab it and pull it down ... the long way, they can do what you just described, they can shoot pew pew lasers at it. But every method has its own set of risks and pain involved. The risk of the method you just stated is that it might also cause internal bleeding which could create more problems. Day post in a few moments. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:35 Chuiu wrote: Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police. But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Irritated he decided to confront the man outside and end his charades. Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Coincidentally Fishball had been looking for those darts and was turning around the corner just after it happened. He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. He has just arrived there when a single man stood at his car. "Scram, I'm going to be late" he said as he got out his keys to open the door that Max was still blocking. "You aint goin nowhere" said Max as he smashed ShadowDrgn in the head with a bat. ShadowDrgn lay stunned on the ground and Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. ShadowDrgn's corpse was bruised and bloody when it was found only an hour later by his landlord. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68554 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 Chuiu wrote: Two of them are obvious but OP is updated now. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:32 Chuiu wrote:So my kidney stone gave me a one day break to go to work, make a day post, and play some games. Its being a bitch again. I'm going to try that corn tea shit sometime today... Anyway, I'm hearing about a lot of unhonest play here. Dead players sending in information to live players, dead players posting information that affects the game in their blogs, etc. You guys are only helping to kill the game when you do this. When you're dead you're dead. Thats it, no more talking to people in the game about it. If every player just posted whatever he wanted whenever then there would be no point in killing off players in the game and it would just turn into a huge mess. Please respect the rules and play the game as it should be played or I will ban you from it or worse just stop hosting it here. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:04 Chuiu wrote: Been up there since Day 1. We'll have to see once the game is over. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:39 Chuiu wrote:I'm not going to do shit about this. Forming an alliance when you can't possibly know another players role is a risk as was making that chat room for discussion. You took the risk and someone you didn't want in it somehow got it. Not my fault! And if it leads to either the mafia or the town making a quick win you have only yourselves to blame. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:49 Chuiu wrote:The mayor has double lynches, you can use those two kill off your top suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:27 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Ghar - 17 qrs BloodyC0bbler Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib GranDim fanatacist iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) NatsuTerran GeneralStan(2) wurm Showtime! - 2 CDRdude wurm(2) randombum aZnvaLiaNce Ace - 4 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm bumatlarge - 5 BlindAlbino MTF 0cz3c SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive wurm - 18 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks TranceStorm(2) Amber[LighT] zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 3 Pangolin(2) NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) useLess BloodyC0bbler(2) Abstain - 10 GrayArea L Siefu Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Klive5ive Meta KH1031 57 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:35 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Ghar - 25 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge crazie-penguin Scorch(2) ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler Showtime! - 9 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 5 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf bumatlarge - 12 MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) (or you could have just kept your first vote here and moved your second one to wurm) wurm - 30 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks Amber[LighT] Puosu crazie-penguin(2) Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 4 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) ~OpZ~(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive (you never made a first vote) Joe Bob Mike Gary Judith Micheal Abstain - 13 GrayArea L Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot 86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:44 Chuiu wrote:Doubleposts not treating you well either, I'm afraid. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:57 Chuiu wrote: Even moreso than usual. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 03:21 Chuiu wrote:I'm sure you can guess why night isn't up yet. I'll try to finish the vote count and get it up now. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:32 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] Ghar and Wurm were set to be lynched today, with not much argument against the cases. As they were both prepared to be lynched Wurm screamed for justice and a pardon, Ghar remained mostly silent. The switch was pulled and the life drained out of them. Wurm's skin turned blue and Ghar's green. The town could not believe what they were witnessing, and began to doubt each other. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:01 Chuiu wrote:Day probably won't be up tonight as I'm really not feeling well. I'll try my best to get it up tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 03:07 Chuiu wrote: It was a cold night in Liquidia and no would could deny everyone was afraid for their life this evening. Mr. Lavender was digging up Chui's grave, not quite satisfied that he was dead. He had almost gotten to the casket when ... Ninjas. Thousands of them flipping against the graves. Smashing every flower, tombstone, zombie, whatever they saw in the area. The ninja clan leader, standing on top of an old tree; he screams some hardcore battlecry in Japanese, and i'm not sure what he's saying because there are no subtitles at this part. He takes the damn casket and breaks it in half with a kung-fu touch. NOW MR. LAVENDER IS REALLY PISSED. He turned his head to the other 999 ninjas ( *Music wails in the background* ), and starts kicking ass "the matrix" style with slow motion and everything. He killed those 999 within seconds, but... the ninja leader gets to stab him from the back and he's fucking bleeding so bad, but he couldn't care less. His lust for murder was as awesome as ever. He stabbed the ninja leader right into his throat with Chui's stiff hand, and unleashed a series of badass roundhouse kicks to everyones faces that he learned from endless hours of watching Walker, Texas Ranger. The ninja clan leader's head instantly explodes covering the graveyard in blood, thus quenching the thirst of all zombies forever. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 15:14 Chuiu wrote:Only because every time I try to get started on writing something I end up writhing in pain. That fake day post was easy. Just copy paste and change a few words. 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<not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote: In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Later that night Winston was hot on the trail of Kau, who he had chased out of a dark alley. Kau assumed he had encroached on the wrong territory as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. He was just about to the end when he noticed Kau. He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. It was later yet and dawn was approaching, Queasy was stumbling home and leaving a trail of puke with him. Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do. He noticed Queasy approaching and saw how completely out of it the man was. He decided to have some fun and started spray painting Queasy's back as he walked by. Well Queasy wasn't as bad as Showtime! had thought and he spun around quick as the wind and landed a punch square in Showtime!'s right eye knocking him out. An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! straight through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it. Ordell was running from across the street after seeing what just happened. He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. He removed the knife from Showtime!'s corpse as he inspected it, a towny he thought to himself. He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around. "Lets see how you like it" he said as he stabbed Queasy through the heart, ending his life and a long night for the town of Liquidia. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68925 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:45 Chuiu wrote: Include me on this list. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 06:05 Chuiu wrote: Or how about you follow the rules? Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:06 Chuiu wrote:The thread is dead! I half-expected this with the several day delay. Let everyone know day 4 is up so we can get the game going again. /bump Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 06 2008 05:13 Chuiu wrote:I'll do a vote count later today and move to night tomorrow evening. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 02:26 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: araav - 2 CDRdude BlindAlbino fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 3 Plexa G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 11 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta ~OpZ~ rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies Pangolin nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf Abstain - 19 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare 43 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:36 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 10 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Abstain - 33 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 58 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Night in a couple hours. Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:42 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Final Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 13 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Ninja4ever Chezinu Abstain - 35 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 ieatkids5 Jimtudor 63 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night soon... Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:55 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The town left with little direction decided to lynch TranceStorm this day. He denied his involvement with any plots against the town and argued to the end. When the switch was finally pulled and he died, TranceStorm's skin turned green. The town was even more lost after seeing this. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:19 Chuiu wrote:Heres my plan for next game while I write the day post: 60 player cap - I never wanted to put a cap but now I think its a good idea - we'll see how it works out - I'll post when the thread is going to open ahead of time so everyone can plan when they will ninja sign up No elected roles - I had this planned out before this game even started, I want to have a game without a mayor and you guys deserve to experience one this way Everyone has a role - I'm going to try to make it so that everyone in the game has a role to keep things interesting for them - so people don't get the "oh I'm a boring vanilla towny" feeling - they will probably be highly watered down versions of current roles - mafia may get special roles to help with balance but you wont see a team of suicide bombers or saboteurs or anything Anything else I had planned I can't remember right now. I should write it down somewhere... Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:08 Chuiu wrote: The night didn't start out quiet and there was a street fight just outside a bar. Louis had his suspicions about bumatlarge and was about to prove them. He stood still as he waited for bumatlarge to attack him first but when it became apparent bumatlarge didn't want to return the fight he quickly became animated and jumped towards him. He clipped bumatlarge in the jaw with a punch and pushed him back a pace. bumatlarge was rather fed up, though, and thought he could get away if he simply ran. He didn't get far before a few bar darts planted into his back though, and he fell to the ground cringing in pain. Louis pulled the darts out of his back and grouped them together. He thrust them down into bumatlarge's heart and killed him off. Things settled down for a bit after this and the mafia didn't really make their move for another couple hours. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. The majority of the people who left the building made their way towards the rest of the mafia. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. By now the others had figured out what was going on. Caller and Lenwe sprinted towards their cars but they were already too late. Explosives placed by d.arkive went off and all the cars on the lot not belonging to the mafia went up in flames. They ran away from Mr. Orange and Black Mamba, away from Mr. Blonde and Mr. White. But they were still surrounded. Mr. Red and Eddie headed them off and King Brown Snake and The Wolf moved in behind Caller. King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. At the same time all this was happening Eddie and Mr. Red were taking care of Lenwe. Lenwe was the first to make his move, however, and tackled through Eddie and ran past Mr. Red. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. Later that night Ordell was out jogging when he came across Chezinu running into a building. He was in the building pretty quick but has lost sight of Chezinu. Ordell listened for footsteps and followed the sounds. In less than a moment he caught up with Chezinu and had tackled him to the ground. Ordell didn't have a weapon but he improvised with a piece of rope he found lying near by. He pulled it against Chezinu's neck and stopped his breathing. A couple minutes passed and Chezinu was dead. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=69303 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:31 Chuiu wrote: I don't know how to spell and have a spell checker installed into everything. Too bad it doesn't check for context. Strait = Straight in those posts, I'll go back and edit them. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:34 Chuiu wrote:Also, could a mod or someone else change the thread title. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:44 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The verdict was in and two people were judged guilty today. Evilmonkey. and Siefu. They were both setup on the gallows and both denied everything. The switch was pulled and the town saw Evilmonkey.'s skin turn red, but Siefu's turn green. Mixed feelings, but many were optimistic. They felt they were finally making progress. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:45 Chuiu wrote:Also, could a mod change the thread title to be Night 5? And I haven't had a chance to catch up in the thread, sorry if any questions are going unanswered right now. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:45 Chuiu wrote:I'm sorry guys I've been bogged down with tons of extra work lately. I'll get it up tomorrow I promise. EDIT: Oh and don't worry about the inactive player situation. It's better than you think, I assure you. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:04 Chuiu wrote:Day post started Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:37 Chuiu wrote: It was still very early in the evening and decafchicken was quite certain he was on the trail of the mafia. He intended to send them a strong message and take their kill count down this evening. Standing outside the apartment complex where KH1031 lived he double checked the address before going in. Some gut feeling told him KH1031 was mafia, and he was ready to finally act. He reached the door and pounded on it. KH1031 opened it and decafchicken shoved him back in causing him to fall to the ground and closed the door behind him as he walked in. He walked toward KH1031 and pulled out his gun and shot him twice in the head, not hesitating risking his own life. But as KH1031's body turned a deep blue decafchicken knew he had screwed up big time, he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. The bloody evening was just getting started however. Louis found himself outside of the house of his next suspect, MidnightGladius, and already decided on a quick death for him. He stealthily entered through the back door and found him watching the news oblivious of what was going on behind him. Louis covered MidnightGladius's mouth to muffle his screams and stabbed him through the heart killing him quickly. After failing a second time Louis found himself highly depressed and retreated to his own home where he would take on a new life, perhaps of a monk. Things were still not quiet. Joe, Mr. Blue, and California Mountain Snake found aZnvaLiaNce working very late this evening. They intruded into the office buildings he was at and quickly found him doing repetitive boring paperwork in his drab cubicle. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ. Though there were already many acts of violence this night there was still one last one to come. Winston saw BlindAlbino making his way downtown. He recognized characteristics of the man that matched up with some of the killings and wondered why he had never been brought up during lynchings. Winston decided it was BlindAlbino's day of reckoning and pulled out an Uzi from under his coat. The muzzle flash lit the streets as he riddled BlindAlbino with bullets from the gun. He paused for a second to see BlindAlbino's corpse turn a crimson red before going home, satisfied at his successful hit. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=69610 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:33 Chuiu wrote:I forgot to mention in day post: If a player was killed and protected by a medic they will not be notified of being protected any longer. Just from reading the thread I can tell dead players are squealing after death and giving out information. Everyone who has done this or anyone I catch participating in the game after death will be banned from the next game no questions asked. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:45 Chuiu wrote:Doing a vote count, I'll move to night tonight in a few hours. After trying corn tea and lemon juice + olive oil I didn't pass the stone but afterwards (like a day after) the stone felt like it moved lower. Right now its not causing a lot of pain and I can go to work and do normal things again finally but my doctor wants me to go in and get it surgically removed, he's concerned my body might shut down the kidney completely if it remains blocked as it is. As for me not saying much ... its as if I don't want to! I have to stay out of the game as much as possible or I risk giving things away. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:56 Chuiu wrote: On second thought the lack of voting disappoints me greatly. I think people are ignoring the thread because of the thread title. Which admins are the ones who can change it? It needs to say Day 6... I'll extend voting another day I suppose. + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO Ace Amber[LighT] SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin smurfingchobo vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 10 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Naib Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks nemY BuGzlToOnl Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 26 of 92 possible voters accounted for. I really intended on enforcing it but after a couple days I didn't see the need to and I really lack extra people willing to take the places of all the inactive players. My decision to ban the players who told others about their death may change once I've reviewed the situation more thoroughly so don't expect this to be a final decision. But right now I feel it was a bit unfair for the town to learn of this information and it was an unintended aspect of the game that I am trying to fix. Posted in night7/main_page.241 Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:30 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib nemY vote to fuck L witha rake which would eventually kill him ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs Abstain randombum 39 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Meh, final vote count and moving to night in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:08 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The votes were tallied and crazie-penguin was ready to go. With the pull of the switch the town rejoiced to see crazie-penguin's body turn red. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 10:00 Chuiu wrote:My only associates are notepad! Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:01 Chuiu wrote:The reason I haven't gone to day is beyond my control. The reason knows who or what they are. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:12 Chuiu wrote: Dapperdan has nothing to do with it or even this game as far as anything past his name being in first day post goes. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:33 Chuiu wrote: Ding ding ding, we have a winner. I am for the time being. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 09:52 Chuiu wrote:Day will be up late, don't wait on it. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:18 Chuiu wrote: Mafia numbers began to lower but both sides knew they would be in for a long fight. Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work. Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating. useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death. Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull. G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards. Mr. White was last up that night. He encountered JoxxOr going out for a very early morning jog. He tripped JoxxOr using a wire he hid along the sidewalk and then used it as a choking device. JoxxOr struggled to get free as Mr. White pulled the wire tighter against his throat and suffocated him. It was a cruel death for JoxxOr. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=70118 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 10:09 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 32 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 26 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] 31 of 85 possible votes accounted for. Final vote count and night in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:09 Chuiu wrote:Fastest my ass, you guys had 2 days. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:50 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] L and Ulszz were both prepared and ready at the gallows. The town quite convinced both of them were mafia. With the switch thrown there were mixed feelings when Ulszz turned green and L turned red. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:35 Chuiu wrote:Mayor votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:57 Chuiu wrote:Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. I would make it larger font and flashing but thats beyond my power. Hopefully people will read this though. EDIT: Added it to OP also. I can't believe the things I have to do to get people to read. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:10 Chuiu wrote:Hahaha, hopefully everyone reads at least one of those posts, they certainly all stand out! Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:58 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Last Romantic aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob - 5 MoRe_mInErAls LTT wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 22 Last Romantic Meta Eti307 Showtime! MTF BloodyC0bbler RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim crazie-penguin Yogurt Ace - 26 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Hollander Naib useLess GeneralStan ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Mynock Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios randombum - 10 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea ilj.psa fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau ~OpZ~ Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 5 Ace Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 4 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum 84 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:12 Chuiu wrote:Also if you have to change your vote please don't go back 3 pages and change your post (or where ever it was) just post again saying you want to change it. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:46 Chuiu wrote: I haven't screened for people not playing yet, I'm going to work on that algorithm before I do the final vote count. If he's not on the 130 list than he's not playing, though. Doh, that was the one number I forgot to change through all the vote changes and additions, etc. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 07:13 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 4 MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie Camlito Energies BlindAlbino randombum - 22 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 96 of 130 possible voters accounted for. A final vote count will be made in a few hours and then I will move to night soon after that. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 07:23 Chuiu wrote:I don't know why also, thanks for posting again though. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:03 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 3 MoRe_mInErAls wurm Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ bumatlarge Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ NeaX goldenkrnboi Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 Alventenie Camlito Energies Mandalor SonuvBob AcrossFiveJulys LucasWoJ randombum - 28 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT French_Toast Unforgiven_ve 0cz3c BlindAlbino clazziquai Queasy fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 Siefu fusionsdf ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 3 RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 99 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night in approximately half an hour. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 13:29 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:48 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 suresh0t - 2 Camlito Alethios Ninja4ever. - 2 Chezinu Pangolin zeks rpf LoStYouRSkiLLS - 2 Plexa SoleSteeler Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 16 Naib ZBiR LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink useLess RtS)Night[Mare aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie Scorch imDerek Artanis[Xp] TranceStorm butidigress clazziquai ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast - 2 MoRe_mInErAls qrs Abstain - 12 Ninja4ever. JoxxOr BWdero MidnightGladius suresh0t GrayArea SonuvBob Showtime! xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) zeks French_Toast 42 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:31 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 suresh0t Camlito Ninja4ever. - 2 Chezinu Pangolin zeks rpf LoStYouRSkiLLS SoleSteeler Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 16 Naib ZBiR HeRoS)Pink useLess RtS)Night[Mare aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie Scorch imDerek TranceStorm butidigress clazziquai ~OpZ~ Evilmonkey. Romance_us French_Toast str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast MoRe_mInErAls Mandalor - 4 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs Abstain - 34 Ninja4ever. JoxxOr BWdero MidnightGladius suresh0t GrayArea SonuvBob xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) zeks Falcynn ahrara_ Artanis[Xp] ieatkids5 LucasWoJ Bockit MTF Empyrean randombum Last Romantic Eti307 Alethios Plexa(presumed) smurfingchobo(presumed) KH1031 Puosu(presumed) iNfuNdiBuLuM Energies(presumed) Mandalor clazziquai Klive5ive crazie-penguin Lysithea Amber[LighT] 66 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Night in about 6-7 hours. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:44 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 Ninja4ever. Chezinu zeks rpf Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey. str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast MoRe_mInErAls Mandalor - 58 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress xDark.Carnivalx HeRoS)Pink Abstain - 17 JoxxOr GrayArea xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) Bockit MTF smurfingchobo(presumed) KH1031 Puosu(presumed) Mandalor Klive5ive crazie-penguin Amber[LighT] fusionsdf Wysp SiZ.FaNtAsY wurm 92 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night when I get time to post it, I gotta go help a friend real quick. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:25 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:24 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Ghar - 17 qrs BloodyC0bbler Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib GranDim fanatacist iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) NatsuTerran GeneralStan(2) wurm Showtime! - 2 CDRdude wurm(2) randombum aZnvaLiaNce Ace - 4 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm bumatlarge - 5 BlindAlbino MTF 0cz3c SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive wurm - 23 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks TranceStorm(2) Amber[LighT] zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 3 Pangolin(2) NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) useLess BloodyC0bbler(2) Abstain - 10 GrayArea L Siefu Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Klive5ive Meta KH1031 57 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:34 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Ghar - 25 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge crazie-penguin Scorch(2) ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler Showtime! - 9 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 5 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf bumatlarge - 12 MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) (or you could have just kept your first vote here and moved your second one to wurm) wurm - 35 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks Amber[LighT] Puosu crazie-penguin(2) Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 4 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) ~OpZ~(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive (you never made a first vote) Joe Bob Mike Gary Judith Micheal Abstain - 13 GrayArea L Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot 86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 30 2008 03:40 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Ghar - 30 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler NatsuTerran ~OpZ~ Energies SpiritoftheTuna araav fanatacist(2) Showtime! - 11 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) ulszz araav(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. bumatlarge - 11 MTF d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa fanatacist Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) Scorch(2) wurm - 35 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) Amber[LighT] Puosu Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY L zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 3 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive Abstain - 16 GrayArea Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot Wysp Supah crazie-penguin 92 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Night in an hour or so. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:24 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote:April fools day was day 3.5. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:25 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: araav - 2 CDRdude BlindAlbino fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 3 Plexa G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 11 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta ~OpZ~ rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies Pangolin nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf Abstain - 19 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare 43 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:36 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 10 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Abstain - 33 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 58 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Night in a couple hours. Posted in night7/vote4_page.005 On April 07 2008 14:42 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 13 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Ninja4ever Chezinu Abstain - 35 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 ieatkids5 Jimtudor 63 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night soon... Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 15:58 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 11:02 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: BuGzlToOnl nemY SoleSteeler Last Romantic evilmonkey. JoxxOr fusionsdf KH1031(2) HeRoS)Pink Plexa BlindAlbino MTF imDerek(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) Camlito Ace(6) HotZhot(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) Bockit(2) G.s)NarutO suresh0t(2) aZnvaLiaNce Lysithea Naib Artanis[Xp] Unforgiven_ve L NatsuTerran ~OpZ~ decafchicken smurfingchobo useLess ieatkids5 BloodyC0bbler Siefu JoxxOr(2) BlindAlbino(2) Alventenie(2) Ace(2)(6) fusionsdf(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) KH1031 SoleSteeler(2) Plexa(2) Camlito(2) ShaLLoW[baY] HotZhot RtS)Night[Mare Bockit suresh0t imDerek aZnvaLiaNce(2) Lysithea(2) Naib(2) Scorch MTF(2) G.s)NarutO(2) Artanis[Xp](2) Unforgiven_ve(2) L(2) NatsuTerran(2) ~OpZ~(2) MasterOfChaos decafchicken(2) smurfingchobo(2) useLess(2) ieatkids5(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) L zeks Alventenie SoleSteeler suresh0t qrs Alethios MasterOfChaos(2) fusiondf qrs(2) Alethios(2) Abstain Amber[LighT] xx of 100 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. The list was rushed because I don't have a lot of time right now, will get it more detailed when I get back. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote:Er no updated vote count I guess. I'll toss out night post in a little bit. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 16:37 Chuiu wrote:Then that would be the final vote count also. Posting night. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 16 2008 10:27 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 10:53 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO Ace Amber[LighT] SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin smurfingchobo vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 10 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Naib Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks nemY BuGzlToOnl Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 26 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 10:29 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib nemY vote to fuck L witha rake which would eventually kill him ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs Abstain randombum 39 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Meh, final vote count and moving to night in a few hours. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 15:04 Chuiu wrote:That would be the final vote count also then. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:19 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 10:07 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 32 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 26 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] 31 of 85 possible votes accounted for. Final vote count and night in a few hours. Posted in night7/vote7_page.003 On April 25 2008 15:46 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: L - 34 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic HotZhot MasterOfChaos(2) Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 27 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) HotZhot(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] jtan MasterOfChaos 33 of 85 possible votes accounted for. + Show Spoiler [Cube] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:13 Cube wrote:sign me up as well + Show Spoiler [Dapperdan] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:49 Dapperdan wrote:I'm still going to help chuiu run the game. I'm sure I'll be helping him more than I did last game (only like 2 paragraphs [1 long, 1 short] before doing the entire last day; which was one of the longest mafia clue posts ever done ;o) I hope chuiu will listen to me more in the preparing of this games balance... Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:55 Dapperdan wrote:"3. New rule, you must vote. Whether its 'I abstain from voting' or not you must cast a vote" With the creation of this new rule, I would seriously consider creating a new thread where all votes are cast. In this new thread, people would simply post like this: No other posting would be allowed in the topic. It would serve as an easier way to count votes, and as a reduction on all the spammy posts that include just voting which people would make -- letting people read through the topic easier, and significantly cutting down on the pages in the topic. Vote counts could be posted in either or both topics. What do you guys think? (I would certainly love this... it'd be so much easier for me to follow) O, and chuiu you need to impose a clear punishment if you're going to enforce such a rule. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:59 Dapperdan wrote: Very good point. (keeping track of vote changes is not accounted for by the vote counts at day end) Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 03:07 Dapperdan wrote:Wow, all of those rants were comletely unnecessary and useless. ;b Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 15:01 Dapperdan wrote:You guys are going to definitely burn yourselves out very quickly if you start this ranting nonsense before the game even starts. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:34 Dapperdan wrote: Mass fame and praise and worship and love. :D That and running mafia games can have some pretty fun aspects a person who just plays won't get to realize. + Show Spoiler [Emme] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 01:47 Emme wrote:Hey Everyone! Sign Me Up! + Show Spoiler [Eskii] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:31 Eskii wrote:/SIGNUP Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:26 Eskii wrote:how do we vote for mayor? + Show Spoiler [Folca] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 10:32 Folca wrote:Wow this is ganna be crazy Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 12:44 Folca wrote: lol his first post yippie + Show Spoiler [HeadBangaa] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:14 HeadBangaa wrote:wat + Show Spoiler [HonestTea] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:32 HonestTea wrote:SIGN UPPPP + Show Spoiler [IntoTheWow] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:19 IntoTheWow wrote:LIVE2WIN IS MAFIA + Show Spoiler [Kingkosi] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 14:33 Kingkosi wrote:Awwww man I want in + Show Spoiler [Masamune] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 12:24 Masamune wrote:I kept up with this thread after it reached 1000 posts but now.....*sigh* + Show Spoiler [Meh] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:45 Meh wrote:I wanna be a mad hatter, how awesome would it be to get hit or lynched and take 3 bastards with you? =) Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:48 Meh wrote:Good argument fusion. I'm going to make a simpler one: If you don't agree with what fusion is saying, if you dislike him, if he has wronged you in any way, if you find him suspicious, if anything about him can somehow be interpreted as the number 23, then vote for ME :D I might be easily corruptible, but you'll be hard pressed to find a more charming chap on this side of the law, haha, just kidding, or am I? Vote for me and I will begin negotiations with the mafia to ensure that if ever a townie should be murdered, at least the killer will be well dressed, and avoid the use of profanities as long as the townie doesn't struggle too much. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:30 Meh wrote:I so wanna be a hatter :3 Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 19:00 Meh wrote:I hope the logic behind fingering mafias will be better once the game starts :3 + Show Spoiler [MyHeroNoob] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 MyHeroNoob wrote:sign me up Edit: oops my name is there already Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:Laying low as mafia works wonders only live2win suspected me in the end lulz Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:28 MyHeroNoob wrote:No! not dr.dragoon!! hes going to get lynched the first day! Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 18:07 MyHeroNoob wrote:I VOTE FOR FUSIONSDF FOR MAYOR + Show Spoiler [Num] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 02:51 Num wrote:Hmm unfortunately I'm going to be going away for awhile. I didn't quite expect this so sorry but can you removed me from the list + Show Spoiler [Quesadilla] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 Quesadilla wrote:Hmmm, should I play? + Show Spoiler [Sadir] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:07 Sadir wrote:I vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:08 Sadir wrote:as mayor + Show Spoiler [Southlight] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:04 Southlight wrote:Take me out of the game, tried to be active last game as much as possible (only missed one vote) but with even more people, it's too much for me to keep track of. + Show Spoiler [Umbrella] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:15 Umbrella wrote:I'd like to join, it looks so fun! But hopefully I won't screw up too badly :< + Show Spoiler [ZaplinG] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:18 ZaplinG wrote::o good luck everyone Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 05:06 ZaplinG wrote:Im in, Amber[LighT] ^^ Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:06 ZaplinG wrote:i just noticed i wasn't in this round... ohwell, its probably for the best as i dont know how active i would be Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:22 ZaplinG wrote:the townies seem a lot more organized this go around than they did when i played, haha + Show Spoiler [ZianG] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:55 ZianG wrote:whoa o_o + Show Spoiler [GTR-2-Go] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:02 GTR-2-Go wrote:<marquee>Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low.</marquee> Moving too! + Show Spoiler [Hot_Bid] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote: Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are. You guys should vote on whether we should ban him Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:41 Hot_Bid wrote:you guys should organize mafia or town IRC channels, that would speed things up quite a bit + Show Spoiler [Kennigit] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:00 Kennigit wrote:<marquee><font size ="6"> Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:01 Kennigit wrote:Caps Bold and Red. Super Serial + Show Spoiler [Live2Win] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 14 2008 00:45 Live2Win wrote:ugh....... are we seriously going to have over a hundred people playing? I don't know if I want to go through this again........... Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:06 Live2Win wrote: ORLY?! *evil smirk* + Show Spoiler + (btw I'm not playing so plz don't take this post seriously) Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 15:15 Live2Win wrote:thought I poke my little head around here. So glad I'm not tied to my computer looking through the 100+ pages tying evidence together. I think I'll play the next game though. + Show Spoiler [pachi] + + Show Spoiler [[GiTM] + -Ace] <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:39 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:oh people haven't confirmed? theres hope for me yet! :D Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 10:02 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:so its the next day did everyone confirm? :D Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:23 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:does this mean I didn't get in Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 15:39 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:I hope some people miss some votes so I can get in this game And ride the townies to victory Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:34 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:adding that as a quote O_O Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:14 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:I could have sworn the town voted on the course of action for tonight.... Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 00:12 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:This thread has gotten so much better over the past few days. No more useless spam like before Posted in night7/main_page.230 + Show Spoiler [bp1696] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 15:00 bp1696 wrote:As an outside observer, I have to say that Showtime!'s behavior has detracted from the fun of this game. I used to take a quick look every now and again at this thread even without playing because it was fun to see clues being analyzed and accusations thrown around. Showtime!'s arrogant attitude and spamming of this thread has destroyed, at least for me, the enjoyment of reading about this game, and although the quality of both the town and the mafia seems increased this time, the quality of this thread has decreased. + Show Spoiler [evanthebouncy!] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:Wait whaa I'm not in? I want in!!! + Show Spoiler [gwho] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 + Show Spoiler [ilj.psa] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:39 ilj.psa wrote:sign me up Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:44 ilj.psa wrote:nvm Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:52 ilj.psa wrote:i vote for randombum. + Show Spoiler [kyjori] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:56 kyjori wrote:SIGN ME UP + Show Spoiler [ssj100] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:06 ssj100 wrote:I vote plexa. + Show Spoiler [zdd] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 23:09 zdd wrote:strict cycles for the game can still be done even if you don't have time to post, just measure out exactly 48 hours after each day/night post, and only the votes/whatever up till then counts. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:32 zdd wrote: <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/U1TmeBd9338"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/U1TmeBd9338" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> | ||
araav
Armenia1590 Posts
well, updated till night 7 | ||
MTF
United States1739 Posts
On April 30 2008 15:24 araav wrote: well, updated till night 7 Many thanks! | ||
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