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75. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:14 bumatlarge wrote:Everyone PM their roles to Dark Carnival: 1)He is a townie (see Bum's Law) 2)He has a good grasp on seemingly solid clues, and unless Stalker proves differently, I think he's right. 3)He seems smart and requires medics! GOGOGO! Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:35 bumatlarge wrote: ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:26 bumatlarge wrote:Well,then lynch me if you want. I'm only a townie and i'm not serving another purpose. My list of townies is correct as far as i can see. CDRdude Falcynn More_Minerals Aznvaliance BumAtLarge (subject to change) SonuvBob LTT Plexa Pangolin Ahara xDark.Carnivalx Chuiu (GASP) If by the end, we find out that none of these are mafia, I won't say i told you so. Because I'm saying it now. BTW, Bodyguard plan seems neato! Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:03 bumatlarge wrote:GANTZ! Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 15:11 bumatlarge wrote:If CTStalker really doesn't want to be lynched, he'll try to make a defense. If he's mafia, then he'll probably try to assume another role, desuading us from lynching him.......... THAT'S WHEN WE LYNCH HIM! Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:57 bumatlarge wrote: That isn't as easy as it sounds. There are multiple detectives, so if a mafia comes forward saying you are or are not, then we will have to mistrust this detective. I don't want to lose all our detectives even if we take out an even number of mafia as well. Detectives are too valuable. If Empyrean isn't mafia, he's gonna be dead soon, probably along with alot of meds. Either way, Emp you are either an foolish but brave townie, or a inconsiderate genius mafia. Knowing you, It's the latter. Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:10 bumatlarge wrote:Oh, just for the record, when somebody dies, and their towny, EVERYONE! should go read their posts. Since they are posts of the utmost sincerity, we can't afford for a mafia to go mangle information in such a large thread where important facts can be missed even by the most vigilant townies. Together we can catch any and all hints! Especially me. Read my stuff after I'm dead <3 HOORAAA! Posted in night7/main_page.059 On March 20 2008 10:38 bumatlarge wrote: Hm, there are no candidates in my list, then, which makes sense, since it's takes time to plan out how you will try to make a good campaign. Ace looks pretty clean, Emp seems a bit risky, but we have a good chance of having a serious advantage over Mafia. In fact, I think I will vote for Emp, because if push comes to shove, we can lynch him. Having a detctive as mayor is so strong, it's so tempting! WTF, Emp if you're mafia, Chuiu is pure evil. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:49 bumatlarge wrote:Unfortunately, if Empyrean isn't mafia, mafia will kill him. And if Mafia won't kill him then townspeople will. Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 11:09 bumatlarge wrote:This is good, if Emp is a townie, Mafia will be reluctant to kill him with the suicider. If he's detective, he could survive and try to prove himself with clues. If h's mafia, he's going nowhere, fast. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:16 bumatlarge wrote:I still think we should vote for Emp. ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 13:03 bumatlarge wrote:CTStalker hasn't said much, but he voted. Also alot of people found the "wolf" clue to link to him in multiple ways. Wouldn't be a big loss if he was townie. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 bumatlarge wrote: No. Fucking. Way. You're right, I bet he's mafia O_o Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:32 bumatlarge wrote:I was gonna say, if Ace picked a mafia out of the hat like that, I bet he would be mafia. In order to maybe prove his worth, the mafia agreed to lynch one of their own, to give a mafia mayor some lee-way when things don't look so good for townies. He should probably vote off someone who voted, but didnt post in thread. A mafia would still vote, in order to stay un-kicked from the game, or at least say "Iabstain from voting" Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:38 bumatlarge wrote: Hell no, if Mayor does that, I would vote to lynch Ace, that's retarded. Lynch someone with no posts but who has voted please. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 bumatlarge wrote: >_> you shouldn't have gone for the inactive, but the lurkers. <_< Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:50 bumatlarge wrote:I'm glad he used the instant lynch. But i would have chosen differently. Chuiu, what are you going to do about inactives? Thy have already affected the outcome of this game. (And wtf Inc? Playin too much SC to at least chek up on Mafia? I bet he didn't even look at his role >_> Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:53 bumatlarge wrote:CTStalker would have been the better lynch. 1) He had at least some clues pointing to him we thought. 2) He hardly posted and didn't defend himself when we accused him. 3) He voted I would do the same if I were mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:14 bumatlarge wrote:Well goodnight, let's wait for night to fall later and discuss crap. lol 69th page ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 14:53 bumatlarge wrote:Ah, Inactives will get replaced. So, would Chuiu replace people with roles first? Or in order from the list? (or random) In either case, Ace made a slight mistake in voting out Inc, but he couldn't have known who the mad hatter was. So let's not go lynching inactives but lurkers from now on, ok mr. mayor? ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:44 bumatlarge wrote: Not to sound morbid, but the original last 2 lines of that prayer are "And f I die before I wake I pray to God my soul to take" How very appropriate! *Enter Sandman starts playing* Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:01 bumatlarge wrote:So, because no one at all is accusing Ace of being mafia, he's clean. Kinda stupid of mafia t not try and sacrifice at least one of their guys to confuse everyone and reveal a detective or two, no? Maybe we're over estimating them ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:54 bumatlarge wrote: Yes, please look at my posts. And it seems that a townie isn't really safe no matter what he does. Is he just supposed to nod dumbly to everything that everyone says? While i disagree with Showtime's method, I'm not shitstirring, I'm trying to contribute and not lurk. What are the disadvantages to lynching someone who doesn't do anything. And what we gain from lynching a regular poster? A hell of a lot less contributions. But I guess that's what you want, to lessen the clutter of the thread by lynching the active (if maybe too active ^_^) Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:26 bumatlarge wrote:Hm, what is a blue doesn't trust Ace? Would we lynch them even if they are a blue. Maybe a detective is pooling his clues and doesn't want to chance it? Hopefully they all send PMs... Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:36 bumatlarge wrote: The main reason everyone would send their roles is to determine blues. If a blue posted his role in thread, mafia will kill them obviously! By PM, blues can keep identities safe with Ace. They should still wait for a detectives confirmation though, let's wait til morning. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:05 bumatlarge wrote: Do you answer immediately to them or do you wait for day? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 09:58 bumatlarge wrote: I doubt you would need to waste a DT (kinda funny abbreviations), we could lynch him and not really care if he's a townie cause he isn't doing anything. Unless Ace can tell us otherwise... Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:47 bumatlarge wrote: We have clues pointing to him, he is relatively inactive, but votes. It's better than lynching inactives who might have roles but have no leads on (inc) Who would you suggest? If I get killed, then he's probably trying to defend himself people correctly interpreting clues. If I survive then he might not be. Same goes for herospink as for me. Posted in night7/main_page.085 Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 05:56 bumatlarge wrote: Assuming that Ace is clean and spotless from the housecleaning detectives, we have a good chance of finding a mafia out of all the detectives searching. I'd be surprised if the detectives didn't find one mafia among the people we have been linking to clues. Posted in night7/main_page.090 Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:28 bumatlarge wrote: ... Two drones, same time, generally same post, how weird. HIGH FIVE o/ Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:40 bumatlarge wrote:2 blues... O dear... Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:29 bumatlarge wrote:Snakes and colors. Are there any Pink or Blonde snakes? Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:37 bumatlarge wrote: Prof. Layton does have brown hair, but I would have called me Mr. Hat or something. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:01 bumatlarge wrote:I'll get Mynock's shotgun and keep Ghar close. Just in case (bum) >_> O_O (Ghar) Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 24 2008 02:23 bumatlarge wrote:Why is Ace remind me of the US government. I mean, land of the free and shit but why is he hiding his plans like that, he's gonna tell us eventually <_< does that constitute as staring and glaring? I'll stop now lol Posted in night7/main_page.107 On March 24 2008 04:33 bumatlarge wrote:Alright Ace, just tell us quick. Chuiu wouldn't do this, but what if he like had to do something and made night post early? Can you tell us who you think we should vote for? Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:38 bumatlarge wrote:Did Manda pretend to be a detective. Kudos to him then, that takes spunk to do when you're mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 13:10 bumatlarge wrote:Is it me, or did the vanilla get really boring fast. I'd like to be independent and look at clues and vote for people i think are mafia, but with ace as mayor, and all the blues knowing whos who and working together, I'm fairly bored. Now I honestly want to stir shit, because It's becoming a spectator sport townies, and then voting for who ace tells us too, cause he's basically a guaranteed townie. I wish Emp was mayor, that would have been fun. No offense ace... Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:Heh, we Ace should mark all the blues as suspicious but not proven so the mafia would go for other non-suspicious people. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:57 bumatlarge wrote: EEEXXXXXIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT LIGHT! EEENNNNTTTTEEEEEERRRRR NI-I-I-IIGHT! Edit: I just realized how appropriate this is lol, Oh and the smilies clue should only refer to posts before the clue was made and sigs. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:Present! O my, what a clue O.o Well I can't be both Sidewinder and Mr. Brown, but if a detective could please check me, so I don't get ultra lynched... Edit: *reading clue again* Oh, come now. I don't stink that bad. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:57 bumatlarge wrote:I think mafia screwed themselves when they didn't pose as a detective and accuse Ace of being a mafia when he first became mayor. it would have revealed another detective at least and would have stopped this whole instant win thing. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:06 bumatlarge wrote: Remind me again where I claimed to be mafia? I did not realize putting yourself in Mafia shoes constituted someone as a mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:19 bumatlarge wrote: Alright then, if a detective sent you the info, then it must be true. Right? Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:55 bumatlarge wrote:what exactly happened with araav that could drastically change the game? Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:29 bumatlarge wrote:He had a chatroom... with only blues... and this was safe? I think the only illegal thing is to hack PM's.... Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:47 bumatlarge wrote: Alright, I guess we wait and see what araav has to say. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:04 bumatlarge wrote: Yea, I get the feeling wurm and I are getting lynched on a hunch... Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:40 bumatlarge wrote:I guess my ass off the Benihana stove? Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:44 bumatlarge wrote:86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. <_< >_> blame ace? Edit: Damn quotes rebelling against me. Posted in night7/main_page.172 Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:Can anyone post a list of clues that pointed to Mandalor, so that we know what we are looking for in clues? We must be doing something wrong... and I'm gonna die next. At least I'll survive the night as a supsect!... O vigils, damn. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:21 bumatlarge wrote:Plexa, I'll tell you my role if you tell me what is happening in the morning. I won't tell anyone! Promise! PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ^_^ <3...<4...<5 (look I went to less then 5! You have to tell me now) Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 06:00 bumatlarge wrote: Did Ace confirm that he has been rolechecked and clean? I may seem l'm just trying to save my own ass, but since my alternate ego isn't "in" on what the roles are, did they skip him over since he isn't much of a threat to blues? Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 07:15 bumatlarge wrote:I'm Mr. Lavender. HOW YA IK ME NOW?! Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 02:42 bumatlarge wrote:So... Am I off the hook? Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:44 bumatlarge wrote:I second the Plexa approval. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:02 bumatlarge wrote:Oh, my head... So, TranceStorm is both in the list and connected to the clues? Confirmation Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 07:05 bumatlarge wrote:So, we get the go ahead to vote for whoever we want? Alright, then I'll follow Plexa. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:46 bumatlarge wrote:Yea the only reason this thread had this many pages was because of showtime and shallow (he isnt dead, is he? where he at?) Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 13:17 bumatlarge wrote:Hm, maybe mafia will try to take out someone with such low posts counts? Or they dont care, or trance is innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 05:31 bumatlarge wrote:I have to say, mafia are dispersing there votes very well. Only 1 voted for trance? Makes you think that either the mafia are very inactive, or very clever. Quesy was sidewinder, right? btw all these snake codenames reminds me of the "saviors new mouse topic" Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 02:19 bumatlarge wrote:Im like the only dead green lol, WTF WHO IS LOUIS?! GL townies, plexa looks like he got this in the bag. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:37 bumatlarge wrote:Ugh, am I the only dead townie that wishes they were back in the game? Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:39 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for SonuvBob He isn't a mafia because he posted right after day started. A smart mafia would collect his thoughts. And talk to his buddies. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 10:46 bumatlarge wrote:I change my vote from SonuvBob to Empyrean. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:47 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:35 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for wurm (1) I vote for Ghar (2) Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:30 bumatlarge wrote:I change my 1st vote from Wurm to Abstain. My 2nd vote against Ghar remains. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:07 bumatlarge wrote:I vote for TranceStorm + Show Spoiler [butidigress] + 89. butidigress Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:15 butidigress wrote:I just realized that the mafia had the saboteur position, which can easily prevent Empyrean from being effective while under protection. I don't know what to make of it. Posted in night7/main_page.058 On March 20 2008 09:00 butidigress wrote:I think we're making a big mistake here by not voting for Empyrean. I feel fairly confident he's a DT; I cannot imagine mafia making that kind of bold move. Even with the saboteur position removing his powers while he is being protected, I think we would do well to have someone who is most likely a townie to be up there. Also, why is everyone so confident that Ace and randombum are clean? While Ace's plan is pretty good, that shouldn't guarantee his innocence. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:37 butidigress wrote:Man, that sucks. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:43 butidigress wrote:"to attack the three men ... finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. kau: born 3/31/87 joined tl 3/31/07 name is three letters long awful lot of threes if you ask me... Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:13 butidigress wrote: someone care to explain this logic? i don't get it.. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:01 butidigress wrote:Ace, I don't know what you're thinking on this one. First of all, isn't it possible that two medics protected the same person from the same shot, therefore giving both of them the I protected somebody message? Also, there's barely any evidence at all against wurm. We will definitely have better bets in lynching someone else after day comes again. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:05 butidigress wrote:Hm, I guess you're right Ace. What happens if he turns up blue? That means he did protect his target as he said, which means something still doesn't add up. I guess we'll see as we go along. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:42 butidigress wrote:Hold on, I just thought of something. Why not just have the group of 7 split into two like Ace said, but only perform a DT check on one of those groups? It's pretty obvious that if the check shows no mafia, then it would be the other group that contains the mafia. This way, we save DT ability usage. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:31 butidigress wrote:so when can we find out the results for the dt checks? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 23:16 butidigress wrote:damn, large scale mafia is hard. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 10:14 butidigress wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Like LucasWoJ, I trust both Ace and Empyrean. However, I really don't care which one gets what position, so as of now I'll vote for Empyrean, since Ace seems to have a solid enough voter base. Although some of you are suspicious of Empyrean, I really can't see a member of the mafia making a move as bold as that. He has a great argument; if he isn't lying, then the town would definitely be able to take advantage of a detective having protection. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 10:30 butidigress wrote:I vote for Ghar. Although I think that my Kau find was solid, I'll go with Ghar because that drawing is pretty incriminating. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:13 butidigress wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor. even though it doesn't really matter... whatever haha Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:26 butidigress wrote:I vote for Ghar EDIT: I abstain for my second vote, as I forgot we get another one. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 07:03 butidigress wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 23:55 butidigress wrote:I vote for L and abstain for my second vote. + Show Spoiler [clazziquai] + 6. clazziquai Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:00 clazziquai wrote:Yay looking forward to this Mafia game. More people than ever! :D Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:13 clazziquai wrote:wow 10 more hours..........................CANT WAIT I hope I'm like..mafia Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:26 clazziquai wrote:Alright guys, just got home, got my role, and reading the 30 pages...-0- gonna be long Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:29 clazziquai wrote:Oh thanks Falcynn! Haha should be useful. This time, I am a mere townie :/ But I really want to win this time, (last game was so bad for me, I was an Elder and I didn't really do shit...I want revenge x)) Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:40 clazziquai wrote:Ace, I don't get it. Why did you lynch someone completely random who never spoke really in the first place? Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:39 clazziquai wrote: Meh, I never thought of that possibility, but I'll believe Ace for now..plus he was roleblocked, I think. So doesn't that make him not-mafia? Even though he was the mafia, why would his own fellow roleblock him? Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:27 clazziquai wrote:gg God is HERE Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:41 clazziquai wrote:I suck at interpreting clues (I could barely solve one in Mafia 1, but Fen was mafia, but my clue interpretation wasn't right haha). I am going to sleep so I'll post if I can tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.111 Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:31 clazziquai wrote: Ok, I will vote for Mandalor then as you say, Ace! :D Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:46 clazziquai wrote:Holy crap NICE JOB ACE! Mandalor =] Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 03:55 clazziquai wrote:Can anyone update me...wow my internet was down for two days. Thankssssss Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:28 clazziquai wrote:How many DT role checks do we have left? And I'll vote for wurm Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:39 clazziquai wrote: I'm disappointed as well. I come back and see that Ace really doesn't want to participate anymore because of such a small mistake. We shouldn't give up...come on Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:51 clazziquai wrote: Wow shut up so annoying-__- If there was the role of Village Idiot, maybe that would suit you. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 13:00 clazziquai wrote: i know he's not serious, but he's been saying pointless things that piss me off in the middle of this chaos =/ CANT WAIT FOR DAY! Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 03 2008 08:33 clazziquai wrote:WOW before I read this, I was happy that I saw the Day Post But LOL -__- Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 08:24 clazziquai wrote:Another townie AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:54 clazziquai wrote:Fuck..so Trancestrom was a townie? =/ Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 09:31 clazziquai wrote:Finally got to catch up on the thread.. so we lost a Jack? and L is the current top suspect? I will vote for him But I was suspected....-_- wow Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:40 clazziquai wrote: sorry I don't live for Mafia =/ I have a life, you know Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:50 clazziquai wrote:Nice! We're finally on the right track ^^ Great job MTF, but am I still on your suspect list? Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 11:29 clazziquai wrote:Lynch me and see what happens Posted in night7/main_page.255 Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 08:32 clazziquai wrote:MTF I have nothing to post. It seems like you guys accuse me for being mafia and right now you and Plexa have most influence in town. Oh well. That's why I gave up. Won't matter for me, but have fun wasting a lynch on me. Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:58 clazziquai wrote:I vote for Ace for Mayor. I think he'll suit to be a good mayor . Plus the bodyguard plan, although a bit confusing to me, sounds plausible. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 11:11 clazziquai wrote:I change my vote from Ace to now randombum for mayor Why? I really do think Ace will be a good mayor. However, his plan is going into effect regardless of his position in the election. But his presentation of the plan was a powerful move that mafia could have used to secure the election and snipe the mayor position. randombum being the least likely person to be mafia due to his pre-game campaign would get the best of both worlds. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:01 clazziquai wrote: I simply thought randombum would have a less chance of being mafia... Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 10:35 clazziquai wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 03:21 clazziquai wrote:I abstain my vote. I'm trusting you Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:32 clazziquai wrote:My vote now goes to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:29 clazziquai wrote:i vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 09:32 clazziquai wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:45 clazziquai wrote:I vote for L Down with you, murderer. + Show Spoiler [crazie-penguin] + 110. crazie-penguin Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:29 crazie-penguin wrote:OMG OMG OMG YAY Sign me up, please!!! Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 04:58 crazie-penguin wrote:omgomgomggomomgomgomgomgomgomgomg Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:51 crazie-penguin wrote:Showtime! who could have been "better," incontrol never really posted and didn't even vote. First lynch is always blind anyways. Plus like others said, he was fairly inactive. Posted in night7/main_page.174 On March 30 2008 05:59 crazie-penguin wrote:I think we need to look into the clues A LOT closer, I was almost convinced myself when people started accusing CTStalker and Ghar and giving out the evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 12:58 crazie-penguin wrote:...clazzi, I dont think he was serious. Unless my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning or is outdated then I'm sure its just a joke . Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 07:12 crazie-penguin wrote:wow I don't check this thread on for about one day and look at all that's happened. But judging from the voting thread, I'm assuming Ace has commanded everyone to vote Siefu and Evilmonkey? Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:08 crazie-penguin wrote:Okay so after reading through, since i haven't been on too much lately due to school work, I'm a little surprised since I just found out that I am being accused all of a sudden by plexa and MTF. First of all it just says that Brown Snake is just a "strange" looking man. Which is incredibly ambiguous, and how you connect "short" to being strange I have absolutely no clue (i'm assuming this because I don't see short anywhere on Brown Snake's description). I don't know, can't some one in a badly emotional state be also in a bad shape or anyone who's a killer? Also, if "King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up". If he's stepping up to someone I'm pretty sure he won't be short. It's all I have so far, but what more can I say? You seem to be making weird connections. As for the maddened part. Maddened can mean many things , it could mean angry or infuriated or something. I'm assuming anyone who gets knocked down would be pretty mad. I have nothing for the slapped part though. I'm just saying you're making vague descriptions point to something specific. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:17 crazie-penguin wrote:maybe because when someone gets accused of something they want to clear their name? Just a guess. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 11:51 crazie-penguin wrote:http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69767 Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 12:50 crazie-penguin wrote: I'm coming for you Amber, even from the grave... Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:06 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote for empyrean. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:10 crazie-penguin wrote:I withdraw my vote from Empyrean and give it to randombum as I've been swayed by recent posts in this blog and the Day 1 Thread and Ace seems to already have enough votes. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 04:49 crazie-penguin wrote:I abstain also Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:40 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote Ghar and wurm Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 30 2008 00:44 crazie-penguin wrote:According to Ace's plan, I will be abstaining from both my votes Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:42 crazie-penguin wrote:For now, i will abstain Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 11:22 crazie-penguin wrote:I vote L + Show Spoiler [d.arkive] + 117. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:05 d.arkive wrote:I would like to sign up please~ Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:55 d.arkive wrote:Wow, Ghar's MS paint really corresponds with the clues >< Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:42 d.arkive wrote:holy crap, that's a lot of blues i guess more text for clues? Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:02 d.arkive wrote:What tuna said. If he is mafia, we're really screwed. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 15:20 d.arkive wrote:Nice to know that Ace still is in the game ^^b Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 23:24 d.arkive wrote:Ugh, just missed voting by a little bit -_-;; I suppose I would have abstained anyway; everyone's clues point every which way. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 10:07 d.arkive wrote:-_- what exactly determines non-obvious clues... And maybe i missed it in these 195 pages, but exactly how is Ace determining innocents and guilties? Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:08 d.arkive wrote:Away you go, with all your gelignites and lilies! Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 10:32 d.arkive wrote:okok, we get signal. Everyone thinks that they're going to die. -_-;; Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:26 d.arkive wrote:Like Michael Bay said, I want things to be AWESOME. and everyone having a role is quite cool. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 11:32 d.arkive wrote:Sigh, I give up on the puzzles. I just want to turn the page upside down and read the answers... Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:03 d.arkive wrote: sigh. Happiness is a prison. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 12:11 d.arkive wrote:Remember, remember, the Fifth of November. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:49 d.arkive wrote:I vote for Last Romantic Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:12 d.arkive wrote:I vote bumatlarge + Show Spoiler [decafchicken] + 98. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:13 decafchicken wrote:Oh do i need to post here to confirm? Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:18 decafchicken wrote:I bet ace's plan is actually just annoy the mafia members into an outrage at how easy he makes it look for the town, giving themselves away. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 16:06 decafchicken wrote: what about str and ninja? anyways its probably better to use the ones Ace has for sure while we collect clues. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:33 decafchicken wrote: Things that work arent your cup of tea? Rather guess and check? (kill and hope for mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:07 decafchicken wrote: he said he wasnt going to post his shit any more and just run his own show or somthing Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:06 decafchicken wrote:i hereby announce my candidacy for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 04:00 decafchicken wrote:energies for all the obvious electrical references sureshot for his hammer pic (relates to nails) and he has a sure-shot with the nail throwing? fuck we lost 2 DT T_T There's no way killing 3 dts already was pure luck. Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:45 decafchicken wrote:MTF pins down blindalbino to draw suspicion from him. then again it could be completely irrelevant, but thats a lot of drove + window references that match perfectly w/ his pic. Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:47 decafchicken wrote:Ah well. It's been good folks. GL with no DT/no jacks T_T;; Sorry about the fuck-up earlier that caused a stir. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 03:47 decafchicken wrote: Agreed. I just fucked up and thought i votechecked someone else and then sent ace the list of that person, even though i meant to votecheck someone else. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 03:54 decafchicken wrote: Not is this only concrete evidence, it's downright divine intervention. Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:25 decafchicken wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:49 decafchicken wrote:i vote for VOTE FOR MANDALOR Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:40 decafchicken wrote:i vote for wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 07:08 decafchicken wrote:I abstain for now Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 03:53 decafchicken wrote:first vote: evilmonkey second vote: seifu + Show Spoiler [dinmsab] + 13. Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 01:09 dinmsab wrote:Voting for randombum. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:50 dinmsab wrote:omg, for god's sake.. spell my name right... fuck, i died. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:57 dinmsab wrote: I appreaciate your mourning... now go win the game for me, i'll be watching from the heavens. I still have some things so say, so i'll write it in my blog. + Show Spoiler [fanatacist] + 59. fanatacist Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 02:11 fanatacist wrote:I like the new roles added [: Let's get this going! Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:37 fanatacist wrote:I think both Ace and randombum made the right move here. There is no need to excessively judge them - just read Mynock's reasoning on this following page [last post]: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=75&topic_id=67925 Any plain townies upset over this need to realize the inactivity + randomness + lack of a reason to pardon the lynch. Randombum and Ace are in this together right now, why would one try to counter the actions of another at this stage? Inactive players add nothing beneficial even if they are blue name, but if they were mafia it would have undoubtedly benefitted. So I think the risk was well-placed. Any mafia that are getting upset over this are just stupid. Maybe they are putting on an act to be upset, hmm? Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:59 fanatacist wrote: This many people + this much time between days = mass (needless) speculation, for sure. I think we are all just waiting until the next day [: Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:41 fanatacist wrote: It's not just post count. You might become a lock or a nuke soon if you post like this though, especially when the OP asked for no spam. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:39 fanatacist wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:30 fanatacist wrote: You can't say that the Dr. Dragoon vs. Kuja900 voting isn't comical, though xD Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:29 fanatacist wrote: Analysis made by townies can still be very useful. As a pardoner, your role could also be used effectively. The reason we follow Ace isn't just because he is mayor, it's because he has the best plan right now - that doesn't mean that it can't run into complications, or that there aren't things that you or anyone else could do to make it more efficient. If you lean back and kick your shoes off and don't try to be constructive, of course this game won't be fun and will be too easy, given the fine leadership shown by Ace. By the way, I don't mean you in the sense that it's just YOU, randombum. I meant it as a universal "you," if you get what I'm saying. I'm foreign so it's hard for me to explain myself Dx Sorry. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:54 fanatacist wrote:I agree with Ace's decision to lynch or leave wurm to die. Townies that try to separate from the herd just because they want to have "fun" are as useless to the town's cause as the Mafia is. Even if wurm is a medic and even if he made a proper save, not complying with the town's plans that have worked well so far out of selfish reasons is a free radical that isn't needed for the town's victory. People who cause internal strife or oppose the greater good should be removed. On a similar note, I am getting pretty sick of having to sift through pages of 3 people (you know who you are) just spamming inebriated or plain stupid messages to each other, some of them being incriminating or pointedly obscure. Either you work for the town or you work against the town, don't try to be mysterious or stupid just because you feel it makes the game more enjoyable for you - it's selfish, it's foolish, it's not beneficial to anyone. I agree with whoever said that these people should die, regardless of their worth. Their worth is lost in the dozens of shit posts they make that stirr up trouble or misdirection among their allies. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 03:06 fanatacist wrote: I didn't necessarily say that it should be wurm > ghar for lynching, I am just stating that I disagree with people defending him (and other individuals of similar mindset). Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:39 fanatacist wrote: I've seen comments and quotes from people saying "Please kill Showtime!" and the like. There is a difference between something being funny, which is welcome and okay, to a good 5 pages in a row, more than 50% of which were posts adding nothing, made by the same few people. It gets old, fast. Drunken humor only lasts so long. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:57 fanatacist wrote: I'll vote for whom I was assigned to vote, for the greater good of the town. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:13 fanatacist wrote: Why can't everyone just wait until the end of the game so that there wouldn't be a need to post them separately each time someone asks? Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 05:00 fanatacist wrote: And complain about it even though you can still help by providing ideas for the plan, analyzing clues, and in spite of the fact that it works. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:06 fanatacist wrote:So how and when do we find out Suspect #1 and #2, Ace? I'm sure you will have to announce it here, since so many are voting for them, and there is not much anyone can do to prevent the lynchings anyways (except randombum who I doubt will interfere). Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:10 fanatacist wrote:I agree that wurm should be lynched. The point of the game is for the town to unify and cooperate to win. Even if wurm did not want to send his role or follow the plan, he could have done SOMETHING cooperative, being that he IS on the side of town.... Or at least that is what logic would dictate. Since that is not what happened, I feel safe in the assertion that he is either mafia, or at the very least he is detrimental to the unity of the town and should be lynched. As for Showtime!, I am quite curious as well as to why we need him, considering all the noise he makes. He says a lot about various clues, but is never explicit, so I assume he must be reporting directly to Ace. This would actually make sense, as being too correct in his accusations in public could lead to his death in a single night. If that's the case, then all the more power to him, just I wish he would change his mannerisms about it. Another theory I have is that he PRETENDS to be someone important, so that the mafia targets him, while Ace gives him protection, therefore seconding the notion that he SEEMS important, which would misguide the mafia. There is no harm in saying this because the mafia would not know which of these is the truth - but on the other hand, we don't either. Summary: Lynch wurm for insubordination and going against the greater good of the town, save Showtime! because even though he is annoying (to put it nicely), he seems to have contributed already, whether it be due to his role or his pretending to have a role. Either way, Ace does not seem to want him gone - and I trust Ace, who is a confirmed townie and so far a successful mayor. I stated my logic here so that other townies can see my perspective, and perhaps agree, so that we can be more unified and cooperative, and thus more efficient at eliminating mafia scum [: What are your guys' views on this? EDIT: P.S.: Showtime!, as I have stated, I suspect you are of value to the town... Please don't ruin this by being racist, even if it remotely relates to a clue (i.e., saying towelhead to wurm). I am pretty sure people have gotten banned for similar outbursts in the past, and if you are of value, it would be a shame to lose you. As for the poll, I vote to check the clue linking Ghar to the severed head, as Shallow said. I'd also like to see wurm lynched, as stated above. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:18 fanatacist wrote: It's okay, we're 2-1-0 for now, us in favor. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:55 fanatacist wrote: = My response to Shallow. Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 04:02 fanatacist wrote: I quoted it before I saw your post, and since it seemed you were responding to me, I felt it'd be proper to second this. When I posted it, I saw your response, so whatever. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 23:37 fanatacist wrote:A lot of votes are in the wrong place - People, please change your votes now to follow in accordance to the plan. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 16:25 fanatacist wrote:The medic had to go. The green was a learning experience. You can't take anything away from Ace in this turn of events, given the nature of the clues (Ghar) and the circumstances (wurm). We have a lot to work with now due to the plan. Have faith. Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 12:45 fanatacist wrote:Let's have a new election? Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:19 fanatacist wrote:Not an official mayor, but Ace can turn over responsibilities and valuable information to a chosen second-in-command because of his absence. He will still be the official mayor and will have to do mayorly things, but other than that... Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:20 fanatacist wrote: So like 90% of the town is under suspicion now right? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:23 fanatacist wrote: I hypothesized this earlier... And he confirmed it... Too late to start realizing things about that now lol. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:41 fanatacist wrote:I vote randombum. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 10:55 fanatacist wrote:I vote Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:18 fanatacist wrote:I vote Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 03:51 fanatacist wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 04:37 fanatacist wrote:My second vote is for Ghar. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 23:41 fanatacist wrote:I vote for Ghar. It seems my vote for him was either missed or incorrectly changed - I want this to be my second vote, first being on bumatlarge. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 03:01 fanatacist wrote:I abstain from voting. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 23:23 fanatacist wrote:Oops. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 02:47 fanatacist wrote: + Show Spoiler [fgsvsd] + 37. fgsvsd Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 11:37 fgsvsd wrote:Holy fuck, so many people signed up already. I'll jump on the bandwagon even though it seems a bit cluttered, oh well. Sign me up! + Show Spoiler [fusionsdf] + 66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:04 fusionsdf wrote:Note: I will be running for mayor regardless of my assignment later on. By announcing it right now, choosing me is less likely to end up with a mafia mayor than someone who runs for mayor after roles are assigned. VOTE FOR ME(When the time comes) Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:20 fusionsdf wrote: because mafia will want to be mayor obviously. so if 1/7 people are mafia, right now, by electing me when my behavior is both known and independant of role, there would be 6/7 chance that Im a townie. After the roles are assigned and mafia start gunning for office, it much more likely that a candidate will be from the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:26 fusionsdf wrote:Also, I think from the tag-team me and plexa did with the last game (obviously I dont have a lot of proof, but we were relatively certain of 5 or 6 mafia by Feb 20, and only had 2 false positives. The mayor should be a person who can think independently, follow clues, is dedicated and able to use the role wisely. As the first person to make a profile list in the last game, along with all the other clue research me and plexa did, I think I make an excellent candidate. I suggest every other person running for office, do the same as I do and announce their intentions now. Everyone who doesn't might be doing it for mafia motives. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:50 fusionsdf wrote: its a smart mafia strategy.....mayor is an extremely valuable position for a mafioso to hold I don't expect them to dodge it twice Once the game starts, you'll have to ask yourself if every candidate is applying to further mafia goals. But anyone who declares themselves known is free from ulterior motives. Plus, I'll wear these cool elky-style sunglasses when I post Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:30 fusionsdf wrote: I expect them to field 1 or 2 candidates. It would be fairly easy for them to subtly influence the vote. 5 coordinated votes, properly timed, could be enough to secure the proper mafia candidate. It would be a huge bonus: the instant lynch, the prospect of mafia-timed double lynches, and would have minimal risk to the mafia as a whole. An optimal strategy would be for the mafia to field a whole bunch of candidates. Through coordination, it would only take 2 or 3 voters to push a candidate from no-name to front runner. It would be subtle, and hard to determine if it had occurred. And it would implicate such a small fraction of the mafia that the signal would effectively be lost in the noise. Even if the mayor came under suspicion, it would be impossible to trace that suspicion back to other mafia amid all the scattered towny votes. In such a system, unless a townie has a cult of personality, he would be unlikely to have more than one vote for him. Further not everyone playing has proved their deductive abilities. It would be worse than useless to pick a mayor with no game sense. My dedication to the last game, and the fact that me and plexa found proper suspects, such as empyrean, zdd and unforgiven almost a month before the mainstream players shows that I would be extremely valuable in interpreting clues. If I'm not mayor, that usefulness will probably lead to my death in the first round. I don't intend to hold back my interpretations no matter the result, but if I can only work off one night of clues before the mafia kills me, then I can't contribute. I can make Liquidia safe again! Posted in night7/main_page.004 Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:28 fusionsdf wrote:90% sure he gets it back Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 03:29 fusionsdf wrote:hahhahahaha they'll probably use something like http://www.random.org/integers/ Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 14:43 fusionsdf wrote:.... that makes no sense lol Obviously there is a chance any of us could end up being mafia.....but its like a 1/7 chance lol thats a lot better odds than anyone else Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 07:16 fusionsdf wrote: mafia did that last game, and I highly doubt they would do it again for a couple reasons 1) there are more people, so its harder to figure out who the mafia candidate would be if they exist. Because of this, we have absolutely no idea if mafia runs a candidate or not, which means no real risk for mafia running. We just wont know if its happening or not, so they might as well take advantage of that. Getting us to lynch an innocent mayor is probably fun, but has less advantage for them than just securing the spot in the first place, since even a mistrusted townie mayor still gets a free lynch and can still declare double lynch which obviously benefits the town. 2)Again, because of the numbers and the nature of mob mentality, mafia would only have to risk a very small number of votes to tip the vote to their candidate. This assumes they have a candidate. Obviously, since we cant tell if mafia even brought a candidate (which would be the smart choice) or if they were successful in swinging the vote, we cant exactly start suspecting the mayor because of voting patterns. You are basically dealing with signal vs noise. Townies have no unified information, and act basically as a mob.(emotional contagion, herd theory, etc.) Because the mafia are unified and coherent (signal) they can greatly sway the vote. Basically once a few votes start going to a candidate, more votes will follow. Once they get a mafia mayor, he can be subtle to try and mislead the town, or he can simply say screw you guys I'm mafia. Trading one day's lynch and preventing future double lynches still benefits the mafia. (Not that he should, but I'm just trying to show that mafia mayor benefits mafia in every case, even if he gets lynched) 3) There are huge benefits to being mayor. Preventing double lynch is huge, so is the election day lynch. Mafia mayor makes the bodyguards pretty much useless, especially if the pardoner is mafia/lynched. The mayor is really a super detective. They can be obvious about their suspicions without fearing death. So its best not to waste that position on either mafia or people who aren't good at clues/willing to spend a ton of time deciphering clues, making lists, researching etc. A mafia mayor really plays a denial role to one of only two hit-proof roles. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:44 fusionsdf wrote:From: randombum Subject: Mafia Date: 3/18/08 11:37 Hey, you barely know me, but you might have seen me around TL.net particularly the mafia game. This is just a PM to ask you to vote for me for mayor, because that would rock. I'm sure you have your own ideas, but if you are undecided and don't know whom to vote for, please consider me, randombum. Here are some reasons as to why I would be a good choice. 1: I spend far too much time at home, so I will always have time to check tl.net and do the double lynch if the town asks. 2: I will always double lynch if town asks (a good thing) 3: I will be taking an active role trying to figure out clues and this way I will be able to willingly post them without fear of mafia taking me out. 4: I took the time to write this pm to you hoping to convince you so you do not have to look though pages of spam in the actual thread. Thanks, randombum hmmmmm Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:22 fusionsdf wrote:poor chuiu are the mafia going to kill you again? Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:12 fusionsdf wrote:I am applying as mayor. I will have a post showing my usefulness soon, hopefully some time tonight If you have any doubts about me, I suggest you look at my earlier posts, and the endorsement from plexa Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 05:59 fusionsdf wrote:This is our land. A land of peace and of plenty. A land of harmony and hope. This is our land. Liquidia. These are our people. The workers, the strivers, the builders. These are our people. The builders of our world, struggling, fighting, bleeding, dying. On the streets of our cities and on the far-flung battlefields. Fighting against the mutilation of our hopes and dreams. Who are they? Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:04 fusionsdf wrote:∞Ah, But I am not the one Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:44 fusionsdf wrote:lol @qrs a ha Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:46 fusionsdf wrote:s h a l l o w is a m a f i a Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:59 fusionsdf wrote: I think your suspicions are a good start. don't take a joke the wrong way. Posted in night7/main_page.033 Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:02 fusionsdf wrote:putting myself outside the circle gives me freedom to gather clues a giuliani strategy Posted in night7/main_page.035 Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:25 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.036 Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:04 fusionsdf wrote: Find The pattern Explore the Pattern Learn the pattern (hear the patter?) Posted in night7/main_page.039 | ||
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66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.039 Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:44 fusionsdf wrote: you would have to sacrifice the pardoner and the bodyguards in that event ironically, there roles would be pretty much useless in that case anyways Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:47 fusionsdf wrote: hahaha your response is itself an answer as was the intent Posted in night7/main_page.042 On March 19 2008 09:50 fusionsdf wrote:any messages can be forgeries I have no interest in spin. It is only necessary for my own self-interest Posted in night7/main_page.042 Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:24 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.060 On March 20 2008 10:39 fusionsdf wrote:any smart mafia will role claim towny also: Paramedics: Dont protect Empyrean. The reason should be obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.061 Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:46 fusionsdf wrote: why would you, since even if you got your way people would expect you to use your detective powers as mayor and you wouldnt have powers Whether you are mafia or townie, paramedics shouldnt watch, and here is why. If you are mafia, you are safe. If you are townie, It is in the mafia interest to keep you alive for as long as possible for two reasons: 1) As long as you are alive, you are suspicious. They might as well force us to waste a lynch. 2) Mafia know you are a towny. They would be better off excluding you, because with random chance, they now have a better chance of killing a special role. If you do die, who cares? At best you are a detective plaing towny for safety - a move which makes you almost useless in that role; at worst you are mafia. again Paramedics should stay away from paramedics for the same reason, if he is a townie, you are better off protecting someone with a random guess, and hope its someone a) targetted by the mafia, b) special non-mafia role so we just lynch detectives until we find out which one is mafia? or do we have to coordinate the detectives somehow, which would tie them up another round? You would have to do a double check from what I see, which might take as long as two seperate nights. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:35 fusionsdf wrote:lynching empyrean is the smartest thing to do at best hes a townie at worst hes mafia in either way he creates confusion as long as he is alive Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:29 fusionsdf wrote: jokes he hasnt voted so hwe will get dropped anyways Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 fusionsdf wrote:great.... should have lynched empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:03 fusionsdf wrote:so...... we are lynching quiet people to force them to post? Do you realize how useless a strategy that is? We only get one/2 lynches a day....and you want to waste them like that. First, its perfectly possible for mafia to post without seeming suspicious. So by forcing them to post you gain absolutely nothing. Second, its possible for a townie to post suspiciously. By focusing on it, you confuse the town, and potentially waste future lynches. Third, In this case, we knew that empyrean was at best a townie. Going after him offers better odds than lynching inactive posters. This was a very rare situatuion. In most cases, Its better to lynch based on clues Fourth, by lynching based on clues, you narrow the pool of people that clue potentially refers to, and offer yourself the chance to isolate mafia based on clues. I am glad you dont have control of future lynches. The reasoning for this one was flawed. Lynch because of clues, not posting activity. This was a mistake Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote: It doesnt matter what lynching it is its still stupid especially when you have a gift like empyrean Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:33 fusionsdf wrote: You obviously dont understand what is going on in this game, so you might as well stop this If you had an argument you would offer it instead of useless sarcasm Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:49 fusionsdf wrote: qrs is correct yes. see: Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:49 fusionsdf wrote: what guessing would they have to do lol? empyrean being alive is a much bigger burden for us than for them Posted in night7/main_page.115 On March 24 2008 09:04 fusionsdf wrote: I havent read the past 50 pages since Ive been busy with homework Posted in night7/main_page.116 Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:15 fusionsdf wrote: obviosly manda whatever is going to get lynched anyways, so I dont see why you should start getting suspicious of people who want to make their own decisions. its a stupid metric Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:31 fusionsdf wrote:so who am I supposed to vote for? Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 23:42 fusionsdf wrote:poor chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 10:37 fusionsdf wrote:fucking lol. just like itw would have done it Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:35 fusionsdf wrote: bad luck for me how should I prove my innocence? Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 04:44 fusionsdf wrote:ASCII is Leonidas from Sparta Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 12:05 fusionsdf wrote:Oh, since this developent makes it advantageous for me: Do you have any questions? Why the strange behavior? Why did I do this or that etc? Ask me. I will tell you. I plan to have a huge update out before tonight anyways so I'm not really worried about dying. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 06:58 fusionsdf wrote: 2 reasons. 1, putting myself forward as mayor at the beginning of the game was an extremely high risk move. By doing so, I put myself forward as a leader type, and if I didnt get mayor or pardoner, it was extremely likely I would be high enough on the threat list (especially with the lack of development) that I would die on the first day cycle. As soon as I realised that it was unlikely I would become mayor, it was then the smartest move for me to prevent myself from getting on the list and then gain as much time as possible to gather clues. The initial goal was to post a list after two cycles since that should be enough to create a list, but I've been busy. In order to survive to do that I had to lay low, and make it so other people were more attractive mafia targets. That's why I did the whole thing with shallow and made a whole bunch of nonsense posts. I wanted to come off to both the town and the mafia as a rogue element - not annoying enough to be killed off, but not helpful enough to get killed that way either. but you'll see a post from me tonight :D Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 10:41 fusionsdf wrote:even if it seems obvious, Im the only suspect who is about to provide clues.... it looks like Im safe today, but to the people voting me: I'm the only suspect about to provide lots of clues. Let me go tonight. If what I provide isnt good enough, you can always lynch me next time. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:55 fusionsdf wrote:mafia are more likely to be active and lynch vote, no? shouldnt the list of people who voted be those more likely to have roles (mafia or town)? Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 08:57 fusionsdf wrote: patience I'll be releasing a mega-post right before next day cycle Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:45 fusionsdf wrote:I dont know, but Im glad if hes mafia, it moves five people into the innocent pool Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote:eh? isnt mandalor mr blue? Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:54 fusionsdf wrote:yeah reposting all the dt lists would be awesome Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 08:01 fusionsdf wrote:not trying to post clues or anything, this post is just out of boredom chuiu needs to pick the left side more often he mentions right 13 times, but only 3 times for left Up is used 42 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 50 : [1,25]Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." Line 5 : [2,3]Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 19 : [2,10]They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. Line 31 : [2,16]They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. Line 37 : [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. Line 39 : [2,20]They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 63 : [2,32]They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 105 : [2,53]Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Line 107 : [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 15 : [3,8]Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Line 29 : [3,15]As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 45 : [3,23]He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 67 : [3,34]As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 105 : [3,52]"Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. Line 109 : [3,54]But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 3 : [4,2]They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 5 : [4,3]Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Line 19 : [4,10]Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 31 : [4,16]New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 41 : [4,21]Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. Line 55 : [4,28]He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. Line 73 : [4,37]He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around. Down is mentioned 21 times + Show Spoiler + Line 1 : [1,1]The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Line 77 : [2,39]He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Line 101 : [2,51]He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. Line 19 : [3,10]Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Line 37 : [3,19]But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. Line 39 : [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. Line 55 : [3,28]Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 87 : [3,44]In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. Line 97 : [3,49]He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. Line 99 : [3,49]LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. Line 1 : [4,1]In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. Line 21 : [4,11]Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 39 : [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 49 : [4,25]He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Line 51 : [4,26]Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. Line 59 : [4,30]Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do. The ground is mentioned 23 times + Show Spoiler + Line 26 : [1,13]He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. Line 34 : [1,17]He sprinted to the window to his right and broke through it, knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall. Line 40 : [1,20]Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. Line 17 : [2,9]As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 85 : [2,43]With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. Line 87 : [2,44]OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Line 89 : [2,45]Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Line 97 : [2,49]Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Line 3 : [3,2]He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. Line 31 : [3,16]Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Line 59 : [3,30]As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Line 65 : [3,33]He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. Line 91 : [3,46]"LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. Line 119 : [3,59]ShadowDrgn lay stunned on the ground and Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. Line 17 : [4,9]"Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. Line 33 : [4,17]King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. Line 35 : [4,18]New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. Line 43 : [4,22]"You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Line 69 : [4,35]He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. ------ whereas the sky is never mentioned, neither is heaven, neither are stars, moon is mentioned once [2,2] and sun isnt ever mentioned either. neat. if you want me to search for specific words or phrases, go ahead and post them ============= numbers lol one: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 52 : [1,26]They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. {three other times as a component} two: -9 + Show Spoiler + Line 44 : [1,22]Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Line 23 : [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. Line 45 : [2,23]NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. Line 71 : [2,36]As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. Line 11 : [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. Line 75 : [3,38]He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Line 77 : [3,39]Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. Line 107 : [3,53]He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. Line 111 : [3,55]No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. three: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 51 : [2,26]NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 57 : [2,29]NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. Line 33 : [3,17]Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Line 37 : [4,19]He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. four: -5 + Show Spoiler + Line 49 : [2,25]He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. Line 65 : [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Line 75 : [2,38]Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. Line 81 : [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. Line 23 : [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. five: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 25 : [4,13]He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. six: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 29 : [4,15]He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. seven: -0 + Show Spoiler + eight: -1 + Show Spoiler + Line 16 : [1,8]DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. nine: -0 + Show Spoiler + ten: -0 + Show Spoiler + eleven: -0 + Show Spoiler + twelve: -0 + Show Spoiler + Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 10:54 fusionsdf wrote:want to know something cool? -ARMY [3,26]JeeJee not yet ||armed|| himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. [4,20]Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the ||armory.|| [2,54]Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies ||assault.|| [3,12]Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier ||assaulting|| his house. [2,37]No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ||ready to fight an army if one would present itself.|| [2,33]They were almost to Mynocks house when four men ||intercepted|| them. [4,24]Kau assumed he had ||encroached on the wrong territory|| as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. [2,58]Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he ||motioned everyone to retreat.|| =AMBUSH [3,6]Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. [3,20]He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. [3,9]Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. =DEFENSE DEFENDED [2,41]Eddie, the fourth man, ||defended him|| and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. =SURRENDER [2,12]He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. [2,19]He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote:also Main Entry: bay Part of Speech: noun 1 Definition: water Synonyms: anchorage, arm, back harbor, basin, bayou, bight, cove, estuary, fiord, firth, gulf, harbor, inlet, lagoon, loch, mouth, narrows, sound, strait ---- Line 15 : [2,8]Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock. Line 65 : [4,33]An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! strait through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it. --- funny how chuiu keeps making that typo huh? --- Line 99 : [2,50]Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. Quote : We are the Swarm, and we are becoming much, much more...for the final metamorphosis has only. Just. Begun. Art.ShaLLoW -- shallow? hmm.... low? ground? --- Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:09 fusionsdf wrote: army = general stan? Posted in night7/main_page.196 Posted in night7/main_page.196 On April 09 2008 11:26 fusionsdf wrote:but thats not how it worked last game last game, almost every line had a clue of some sort, and some lines had 2 clues. so how do you explain lines like: "[4,24]Kau assumed he had ||encroached on the wrong territory|| as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own." It doesnt mention any of those 20 people, so is it a useless sentence? Why was it included? Posted in night7/main_page.196 Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 06:43 fusionsdf wrote:I hope I got killed Posted in night7/main_page.202 Posted in night7/main_page.203 On April 11 2008 05:49 fusionsdf wrote:this whole number thing seems like a pretty fucking big leap to make Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:15 fusionsdf wrote: 13 townies with roles = dead 14 regular townies = dead First Round: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~78/110 = 71% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~32/110 = 29% (Ace killed a blue first night T_T): odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~78/109 = 72% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~31/109 = 28% After 2nd day(one of our vigis killed a dt, gj): odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~74/103 = 72% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~29/103 = 28% After 3rd day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~70/96 = 73% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~26/96 = 27% After 4th day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~67/90 = 74% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~23/90 = 25% After 5th day: odds of mafia killing a regular townie: ~63/82 = 77% odds of mafia killing a roled townie: ~19/82 = 23% Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:05 fusionsdf wrote:All of these seem like long shots once again, Im going to suggest general stan is mafia Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:01 fusionsdf wrote:One of the resons Im suspecting shallow (among others) is: Which means that everyone on that list has a ~27% chance of being mafia how should we interpret the lines that dont mention mafia members? and how do we deal with the repeat of unnecessary adjectives, like strait and gauged obviously they arent bullet proof, but with the patterns we are following right now, we might as well look at everything. Clues are going to repeat. Therefore, we should look for things that repeat. That has been my method. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:22 fusionsdf wrote:L is the 12th letter its a stupid clue to follow anyways, cause you might as well just suspect wizard, since he is 12th in the player list. The reason Im looking at unnecessary words so intensely, is a) chuiu hasnt confirmed that every word in a sentence containing a mafia member is linked to that mafia member. Obviously, I agree that if it describes mr blonde as tall, then we should link tall to mr blonde. If on the other hand, it says Mr. blonde's victim ran down the alley where he ran into a wall, we shouldnt link running into walls with mr blond. so how do we know whether running into walls is a clue, or just a story element? We look for it to repeat. If people keep running headfirst into walls over and over again, it becomes fairly obvious that chuiu isnt very imaginative, or that running into walls is a hint. And if that hint isnt always linked to mr blonde, we cant just ignore all the other instances because of an assumption chuiu hasnt confirmed. 2) Look at Chuiu's wrap up from the first game. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewm...pic_id=66251¤tpage=155#3091 You'll see that clues are fucking dense. Like every sentence, sometimes twice a sentence. for example: That sentence didnt mention any mafia member, yet it hid a clue. Look at: ONE Mafia is mentioned in this line, but there are TWO clues. This does not agree with the assumption regarding this game, that in a line mentioning a mafia member, all clues correlate to that specific member. Look at an example: The 3:00 AM was unnecessary. Why was it included? As a way to include a clue. In the same way, we should look at every single sentence for unnecessary words, and every paragraph for unecessary sentences. When they start to repeat, we have a good chance that its a clue. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:34 fusionsdf wrote: Further, since this was a single lynch, we know that these 10 did not vote for anyone else. In other words there are 10 mafia members who voted for mandalor, and another 10 that didnt vote for mandalor in that lynching. 3 of the ten that didnt vote for mandalor are dead: mandalor, Queasy, d.arkive That means that of the 17 mafia remaining, 10 are on that list, and only 7 are not which means a 10/37 of mafia in the list. 27% chance of mafia and a 7/63 chance of mafia when not on that list 10% chance of mafia (63 = #of townies (83) + #of Mafia (17) - #of people on the list(37)) If I made an error, please correct. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:44 fusionsdf wrote: depends on whether chuiu is familiar with deathnote or not. If he is, there are a ton of clues he could use. Or, he could think of roman numerals and say L = 50 or he could talk about L = lambda and relate it to physics or half life (which he has, since we have physicist clues) or, if we chose to go even more unlikely and exotic: Used as a shield pattern by the Spartan army; it stood for Lakedaimon, the name of the region. It could stand for Left. it could relate to Big L http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_L or computers so we cant just assume which clue chuiu will use. We have to look for clues to repeat, and we have to see which suspect has the widest body of clues pointed against them. That way if we misinterpret one clue, we might still correctly interpret another and get a kill. If you look at the last mafia game, just blindly following lone long-shot clues led the town nowhere. I'm not saying L isnt mafia (he is on the mandalor list), but we dont have strong enough evidence, and should only go after him if we have no one with stronger clues linked to them. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:46 fusionsdf wrote:hmm sorry shallow the potential clues against you goes down a bit (but youre still on the mandalor list) Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:59 fusionsdf wrote:Also, I have some basic notes here: http://massmirror.com/a9d17696f32ee9c48e9f48e04c361419.html many of these (maybe even most of these) lead nowhere. I havent edited for probability, and this hasnt been updated since the 8th or 9th. But it does contain summaries. It contains Day 1,2,3,4: Formatted clues from all games, includes [day,line] marking for easier reference and searching. Remaining names: A list of all the players profiles, image descriptions, quotes birth-dates etc. Also contains synonyms for their names, potential words that could link to them etc, for easier searching and clue linking. Clues Sorted: A listing of repeated adjectives and other words in the dialogues that could be potential clues. As mentioned before, take it with a grain of salt. Attack Methods: List of all attack methods. If attacking is a clue, it should be used a lot, and therefore would be easy to see in the list. Note that as of now, this is just a listing, I have not derived clues from it. Char List: List of all lines directly mentioning individual mafia members. Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange etc. Match: Contains DT lists trimmed of all dead players. Ignore the extra stuff, they were things I was looking at at the very beginning. {The dialogues mention a "white van" [3,44], and MTF's profile has a picture containing a white van, Pink was a tentative link to Mr. Pink} Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:23 fusionsdf wrote: almost like taunting us. At this point I think we have to assume that the mafia has at least a partial list of rolled townies Especially since they've been ignoring active townies for inactive ones, something that doesnt make sense as part of standard mafia strategy. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote: Well I'm not mafia, so obviously you made a mistake. Can you go over how you got this more clearly, because at best, it seems like either me an chezinu were both mafia, or one of the list of - imDerek - Evilmonkey - Alventenie is mafia, and even then, I'm not sure how its supported. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote: araav + irc Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 11:59 fusionsdf wrote: no, because you guys are misinterpreting wat scorch said. Lets start from the beginning For the Ace and Ghar DT lists, these 3 show up both times and could be potential mafia imDerek Evilmonkey Alventenie Whereas these occur once (and could potentially be mafia: useLess aZnvaLiaNce fusionsdf For the record, only chezinu is dead of the last 4. so that part is bullshit. now lets assign odds. First look at ghar. one of those is mafia leaving us with everyone on that list having a 1/5 chance of being mafia. so: useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) Alventenie(1/5G) imDerek(1/5G) Evilmonkey.(1/5G) For the Ace List: Each person on that list has 1/4 chance. This leaves us with the following odds: In descending order: Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A) imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A) Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) fusionsdf(1/4A) useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) (1/5) +(1/4) is 9/20, but Im not sure thats the best way to express the relationship. Just from those two lists, you can see statistically Alventenie, imDerek and Evilmonkey are more likely suspects. Now, if Alventenie, imDerek or Evilmonkey are mafia, we can confirm everyone else is innocent. Likewise, if all three of those are innocent, NOTE: ALL THREE, then one of useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, and I am automatically mafia. But all three of those people would have to be innocent. Luckily, I am in the unique position where I know I am not mafia, and can therefore add useLess(1/5G) aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) to my innocent list. (which sucks, cause they were pretty high up on my suspect list. TL;DR version: If fusionsdf is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) are innocent, and one of useLess(1/5G) or aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are mafia If useLess(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are innocent and fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and useLess(1/5G) are innocent, fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If useLess(1/5G), aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G), or Alventenie(1/5G) is mafia, everyone else is innocent. _________________________ Keep in mind that none of us are in the mandalor list, so the odds of any of us being mafia is about 1/10. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:04 fusionsdf wrote: I think regardless of what Ace says, the odds of mafia getting this lucky with kills.....well its really fucking low. So obviously a leak exists somewhere. Im not going to call for araav to be lynched because we are divided enough as far as targets go right now anyways, but it seems to me that either araav is mafia, or Ace is mafia. (Or there is some other leak we arent aware of, like a mafia making it through Ace's filter system) If we run out of clues or dont have any leads, it would probably be best to follow the mandalor list and assume a role-leak in order to have good odds. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:48 fusionsdf wrote: Sorry plexa, but I have no idea how you can push something that shaky you basically have 12 = mafia L = 12 which is pretty flawed first of all, its not 12, since you are willfully ignoring daggers to further a theory. Second, the 12 could equally apply to wizard, or hey shallow[bay] has 12 characters in his name! Lets lynch him instead! Third, we have way better fucking clues than this. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:55 fusionsdf wrote:yeah, but that grin applies equally to unforgiven who has as a quote, and hotzhot: Quote : I only smile in the darK so its still not very strong Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:06 fusionsdf wrote:keep in mind, that even with the odds I gave above, that doesnt include the odds from the mandalor lists. None of us are in the mandalo lists, so you are effectively chasing after 7 mafia hiding among 63 townie positions, instead of the 10 mafia hiding in only 37 townies among the mandalor list. If you dont have any strong clues, youre better off choosing someone from the mandalor list Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:13 fusionsdf wrote: -SMILEY SMILEY [2,11]He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. GRIN [4,7]Enigma ||grinned|| back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:59 fusionsdf wrote: lol and yet he half-panicked and shot yogurt in the face Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:01 fusionsdf wrote:to me, the fact that he a) got a lucky kick b) got a lucky shot on yogurt means we should look for luck as a clue for eddie Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:03 fusionsdf wrote: and those are the kinds of quotes Im pointing to. Not a single person here can say that "Solemn but seeing a promising future" isnt a clue. Things like that are what we should be looking at Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 14:07 fusionsdf wrote: how so? Its not like shooting someone in the face on a lucky shot is valiant You are starting with suspects, and trying to link clues to them. And thats a mistake. and luck is not a filler. If you think it is, I highly suggest you look at the game one wrap up Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:09 fusionsdf wrote: no its not I'll fucking sig bet you at the end of the game chuiu will reveal it and its going to read out "Solemn(name1) but seeing a promising future(name2)" Those are clues and traits we should look for, no matter which particular mafia it links too, instead of following half baked theories Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:13 fusionsdf wrote: Yeah and it just happens to link eddie with luck twice and we have spare sentences like: [1,2]Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their ||lives hanged on the balance.|| and you want to throw it away for a valiant thing thats contradicted by your own quote. I really like how you try to argue panicking and shooting someone is valiant. No. Fucking. Sense. Just so you can steer it to suspects youve already chosen, when you have less than a 5% of finding a mafia among those 6. Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:19 fusionsdf wrote:could you explain this a little bit more? I see five medic actions, which looks correct and 11 mafia actions (when they should only have 8) Is that the problem? What does it indicate? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:22 fusionsdf wrote: he half-panicked and not full-panicked so now he is valiant? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:23 fusionsdf wrote: meeting, especially face to face eye to eye and that sort of thing shows up A LOT So if you can link this to someone its huge. Unfortunately, unless you have more, thats not a huge link Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:27 fusionsdf wrote: shit. Just a scenario: so it looks like perhaps at the start of the game a medic was afk, and a mafia claimed his role? Do the medics or jack in question have access to the list of town roles? More importantly Were any of those three in the chatroom/knew about the chatroom when araav invaded? Posted in night7/main_page.209 On April 11 2008 14:33 fusionsdf wrote: I've been selfish to prevent getting killed by mafia after a failed presidential campaign, and as such have been unable to sway the town to vote for a specific person. I admire your detective skills, obviously it took both of us to do so well last game. But I think by looking for suspects before looking for clues, your making a mistake. And while statistics arent everything, the first three guys that appear on both lists have a 50% chance of being mafia out of all of us, I have a 25% chance the other 2 have a 20% chance. but that masks the fact that there are only 1 maybe 2 mafia in this group. The mandalor list contains many more mafia. However, if you want to lynch someone from the list (I'm being selfish here) You should lynch either Useless or asian valiance, since knowing either of their alliances will give you concrete proof of the allegiance of the other 5. If useLess(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) are innocent and fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If aZnvaLiaNce(1/5G) is mafia, Alventenie(1/5G)+(1/4A), imDerek(1/5G)+(1/4A), Evilmonkey.(1/5G)+(1/4A) and useLess(1/5G) are innocent, fusionsdf(1/4A) is mafia. If either of those 2 are mafia, then so am I. If either one of them are innocent, then so am I. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:40 fusionsdf wrote: It seems unlikely that araav could sneak in without a mole inside. Perhaps lying medic + jack? but that would be an extremely unlikely compromise of the filter system. We established earlier that it was smartest for mafia to mostly claim townie (still an advantage to town) but it was a disadvantage for all mafia to claim townie (since you could verify all townie roles, and by claiming a few special roles, they slowly sacrifice members to create confusion) Mandalor, I think proved that they were trying to claim special roles. Is it possible that two were successful? It seems with the ratio we are seeing (14 green, 13 blue) that there almost must be a mole with access to at least a partial role list. If you can determine who is a potential mole that would have access to the role lists (or at least would know which dead blues were blue) then we could stop the problem. We started out with a strong system, but moles inside the filter is like a leak in a boat. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:42 fusionsdf wrote: keep in mind that red moon could also relate to lunatic terrifying omen could relate to religion (there are quite a few religious clues I think, but I dont have them ordered) Posted in night7/main_page.210 Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 14:47 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, what are the odds araav is mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 15:29 fusionsdf wrote: EVERYONE: I reccomend you first vote: evilmonkey second vote: seifu Even though I normally disagree with plexa, I think this is a sound decision. Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:11 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, you still have one of your votes on qrs and the other on seifu Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 11 2008 23:58 fusionsdf wrote:Its extraneous words, so I consider it a clue, not sure if plexa does havent been able to relate it to anything though Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:09 fusionsdf wrote:Nice work MTF Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:11 fusionsdf wrote:also, nice work on the evilmonkey guys :D Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:13 fusionsdf wrote: AznValiance is now officially innocent with the death of evilmonkey. Posted in night7/main_page.216 On April 13 2008 00:36 fusionsdf wrote:From: New104 Subject: Re: Detective Ability Date: 4/2/08 03:13 1. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3? old message: MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ NatsuTerran Eti307 Empyrean JoxxOr Romance_us BloodyC0bbler are all confirmed innocent ------------- uh-oh Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 03:59 fusionsdf wrote: it was one of the early DT list checks. New 104 asked chuiu how many mafia were on that list, and chuiu apparently said 0. New104 is dead, so we know he wasnt mafia, so was the error by chuiu, by ace? In any case, for now I am not assuming anyone on that list is innocent Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:43 fusionsdf wrote: I wasnt talking about that list: I was talking about another one. Now I just need to figure out where I got it. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:44 fusionsdf wrote: That list was supposed to have 0 innocents, and had d.arkive. For that reason, I am not trusting it right now. i.e., that list is from the false jack Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:49 fusionsdf wrote:You are innocent because of a different list opz | ||
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66. fusionsdf Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 07:06 fusionsdf wrote: Ace, just brininging up this old post. We know wurm was a paramedic. It seems to me that the medic who disagreed with him is false. Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 07:16 fusionsdf wrote:Also, Im going back through the old posts, and people were saying mandalor didnt have any clues. He did. Martial. Posted in night7/main_page.218 On April 13 2008 09:20 fusionsdf wrote:Oh I think I get it Posted in night7/main_page.218 Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote: we dont know. There are two camps. One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia. The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour. Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:25 fusionsdf wrote:Ease shows up a ton I really think anything linked to that is solid Posted in night7/main_page.219 On April 13 2008 13:48 fusionsdf wrote: And a fourth camp that says they are not mutually exclusive :D Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 03:25 fusionsdf wrote:In case anyone cares, my suspect list is General Stan RtS)Night[Mare ieatkids5 ShaLLoW[baY] Romance_us suresh0t MidnightGladius Last Romantic LostYourSKills MTF unforgiven_ve SpiritoftheTuna Posted in night7/main_page.221 On April 14 2008 05:30 fusionsdf wrote: top is more certain And I think they are all in the mandalor list as well Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:25 fusionsdf wrote:and of course, its french for candy apple Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 10:33 fusionsdf wrote: spend your time reading my mafia blog! http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69426 Posted in night7/main_page.222 On April 14 2008 14:27 fusionsdf wrote:oh holy shit I agree with this most solid thing right now IMO Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 08:12 fusionsdf wrote:I suggest that even if midnight gladius comes up green, we lynch both him and blind albino and then base our trust of MTF on the result of both lynchings. I doubt he is mafia, and if he is and wants to continue throwing away fellow mafia to preserve his life (unlikely) then its still worth it for us. if both turn out green, it looks very bad, but with a clue that solid, I dont think its very likely. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:14 fusionsdf wrote:hahahaha nice catch... pretty big slip up lol Posted in night7/main_page.227 On April 15 2008 10:22 fusionsdf wrote:[3,44]In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 01:46 fusionsdf wrote:Yeah chuiu, dont worry about it, just tell me who dies, names of all the mafia, and I will try to help :D Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 05:08 fusionsdf wrote:ahhhhhh! hockey games, and almost day in mafia and no one is giving me games on iccup Im about to go crazy Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 07:27 fusionsdf wrote:hmm I didnt know shallow was suspicious about both me and plexa Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:10 fusionsdf wrote:interesting.... Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:12 fusionsdf wrote:carnival gunshots car alarm fire alarm beach music wtf Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:02 fusionsdf wrote:lol Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 11:03 fusionsdf wrote:and they got 5/8 kills, which means the only wasted 3 on medics/veterans pretty lame Posted in night7/main_page.234 On April 17 2008 00:13 fusionsdf wrote: hahaha If you think tat half is suspicious, look at the other half "he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. " Armory? really? Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:28 fusionsdf wrote:lol why is more_minerals voting for me when I'm confirmed innocent Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 07:35 fusionsdf wrote:Ace, might as well stop arguing L is dying either way If he's mafia, hes just trying to trick you into giving up some information probably. Posted in night7/main_page.237 On April 17 2008 08:42 fusionsdf wrote:Also, mafia got in 6/8 hits Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:How come people miraculously check on the thread for the first time in a week right when they become suspects? Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:32 fusionsdf wrote:too bad its not double lynch I'm starting to believe this is strong too Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 02:40 fusionsdf wrote:I am fairly certain that L is enigma Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 04:37 fusionsdf wrote:LOL at BlindAlbino went from : to credit to http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=69736 Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 08:11 fusionsdf wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:51 fusionsdf wrote:and we risk martial clues being linked to mandalor as well Posted in night7/main_page.242 Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:28 fusionsdf wrote: BlindAlbino made the same claims I think its one of the few times the mafia made the mistake of uniting, and one of the few points where I would use psychology to further clues. Otherwise, the mafia have been smart enough to diversify to prevent such things. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 03:03 fusionsdf wrote:agree with scorch pretty much the same reasons I had him on my list Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:56 fusionsdf wrote:you missed pace and waved him down Posted in night7/main_page.245 Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 02:04 fusionsdf wrote:methinks your associate is chuiu Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 14:36 fusionsdf wrote:We should put all our medics on notepad Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:21 fusionsdf wrote: I reccomend 19-ulszz 34-RtS)Night[Mare(2) 27-nemY(2) I think nightmare is stronger than nemy Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:50 fusionsdf wrote:nothing really to analyze weve gone over the current clues pretty much as much as possible crazie-penguin wasnt in any of the lists, so we cant add any innocents We just have to wait for ace to declare double lynch and wait for tomorrow Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 05:44 fusionsdf wrote: or you know, since its a note with someones name on it who dies because of the note almost like a deathnote Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 07:52 fusionsdf wrote:L should give us a name if he turns up townie after being lynched, then we will look at his clue Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 08:47 fusionsdf wrote:if you want to get off the list, analyze clues Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 08:06 fusionsdf wrote:Ace can't be mafia I looked into this, but it simply is not possible, and even raising it at this point is counter-productive. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:03 fusionsdf wrote:DAPPERDAN Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 15:38 fusionsdf wrote: #1 makes sense if L is mafia and the mafia is still trying to save him. They need to know who he is protecting, so they can adjust the number of hits. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 10:01 fusionsdf wrote:have they even sent in their list yet? Posted in night7/main_page.252 Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 10:34 fusionsdf wrote:I vote for Plexa Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 07:58 fusionsdf wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:34 fusionsdf wrote: vote for wurm and Ghar hopefully I was supposed to vote for them :D Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 09:16 fusionsdf wrote:I change my vote to Ace and abstain Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:00 fusionsdf wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 05:48 fusionsdf wrote:1st vote for EvilMonkey 2nd vote for Seifu Edit: changed Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 06:28 fusionsdf wrote:me vote crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [goldenkrnboi] + 20. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:58 goldenkrnboi wrote:...... nvm. Posted in night7/main_page.003 Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:wheeeeeee Posted in night7/main_page.017 Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:26 goldenkrnboi wrote: 63. HeRoS)Pink 95. OneBlueAugust it's too early to tell and it seems a bit too obvious, but let's just keep an eye on these two Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:34 goldenkrnboi wrote:what if the pardoner is mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.044 Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:40 goldenkrnboi wrote:.____. well, can't really blame him. true, he should have gone for lurkerish type of people, but whatever. all we can do now is just wait for morning to come. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:04 goldenkrnboi wrote: Although I agree that the clue is too vague, chuiu specifically says that he avoids doing intentional red herrings. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:50 goldenkrnboi wrote: don't forget that last time, the votes and the discussion were on the same thread. Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:26 goldenkrnboi wrote:god damn. now i know how all you people that died on the first day feel. =/ good luck townies! and give me a better role next time chuiu! Posted in night7/main_page.094 On March 22 2008 14:34 goldenkrnboi wrote:although i don't get why mafia decided to target me.... i really didn't contribute that much this game. o.o oops. didn't see the new rule. this will be my last post in the thread. i promise. (: Posted in night7/main_page.211 On April 11 2008 16:31 goldenkrnboi wrote: i do too =/ but quiet you fool. we're dead. here. grab a seat and a drink. maybe we should invite the four blues that just died. =/ Posted in night7/main_page.242 Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:11 goldenkrnboi wrote:looooooooool so.. uh... worship the car? (... ok. i'll stop posting now.) Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 09:58 goldenkrnboi wrote:I vote for Ace + Show Spoiler [iNfuNdiBuLuM] + 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 12:09 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I know, and I'm so excited that I keep checking back hoping the game has started. It sucks because i've been recovering from wrist surgery this week and haven't had much to do, so this would be like the most exciting thing on my agenda Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:07 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ok, I just read like 20+ pages of this stuff. How is Empyrean getting this many votes? As many has said before me his roleclaiming really puts the town on the spot, and we are forced to either vote for him or protect him. A DT will probably even investigate Empyrean to confirm this, wasting another ability. Really though Ace and Empyrean have run away with the vote count, which is understandable regarding the former. But I can't help but feel that someone like randombum, who has so far said nothing brash and reckless, is better suited for the position as Pardoner. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Keep in mind we also have Jacks, that's 2 more DT's when needed. The more I think about it, Jack is a very very powerful role. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 11:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: detective checks Ace, and then PM's Ace if ace is green/blue. so silence from detectives indicates that ace is not a mafia. from there ace builds the network, as he knows who the DT's are and so they can work through him without speaking in the open. If Ace is mafia (which would be awful for the town), detective has to speak up so ace can be lynched. then we are down a detective and a mayor, and in a tough spot indeed. if the mafia are roleclaiming a detective, ace will know since there will be 5 detectives PMing him, unless a detective is inactive. i think that's the plan, If I misunderstood something please someone correct me Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:incontrol... really? i guess he is confrontational, but just watch him be a blue -_- Posted in night7/main_page.065 Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: In his defense, you aren't offering much of an argument either; you didn't even explain your post. Was qrs correct in interpreting what you meant? I have a hard time seeing what sort of gift Empyrean is (besides to the mafia, perhaps, as I for one do not believe he is guaranteed green), but it's possible that I'm miunderstanding something here. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:13 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I think I'm going to go watch Reservoir Dogs. I'll get to see a classic and even understand these code names better Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:21 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Just as an aside, I'm fairly positive bomber can't kill a detective like that. Medics, yes, but they shouldnt be protecting Ace anyway. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well, now we know one person who was targeted that didn't die. this wasn't a very smart post of you to make IMO... it really seems out of character for you. it also seems to follow the trend that the mafia seem to be targeting active, thoughtful posters. although neax and goldenkrnboi are exceptions, perhaps they were killed to throw us off? i'm going to bed... will catch up on clues with you guys tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.117 On March 24 2008 11:30 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ok, well then. If Mandalor is up to the chopping block, then so be it. gg no re! i'll do my top clues/suspects, like ace asked before: 1. Ghar, obviously, because of the picture and his signature. 2. 44-str. im assuming str = strength? this could have something to do with the streetfight. also his sig is "no units = no power," and the power to the electronics in the house was cut off. The streetfight could also be connected to Hittegods signature, "This street violence, pure self defiance." The electronics jamming could also point to Energies, who is Australian (just like Taipan Snake). 3. what he said . 4. Eddie = LostYourSkills. other people have pointed this out, specifically the "lucky" connection betwen his sig and Eddie. I'm not totally sure about guys like Heros)Pink or French_Toast, but I've got no issue with offing them if they keep being disruptive. Heros)Pink is still a possibility, albeit an obvious one, for Mr. Pink, though. Also, did we ever decide anything about Empyrean? Posted in night7/main_page.119 Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 12:56 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: surely they would never expect your cunning plan now how long until day post? 24 hrs? Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: that is def odd. i think fusionsdf also did the same thing, but he said it was only because he didn't have time to read the thread, which of course may or may not be true. it would make sense for some mafia to hide in the abstain list to spread their numbers, right? it also exempts them from ace's vote dividing plan, but i'm not sure they would have expected anything like that, and really just abstained to keep mafia count in mandalor's vote lower. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:27 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I resent that. I will defend my American microbreweries (and Sam Adams) until the bitter end! Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:holy shit, three blues time to read this Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:57 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Was ShadowDrgn a vigi kill? I don't have Max anywhere as one of the mafia code names. Also i think the lawn darts are a clue to something... it's such an unusual way to die e: forgot "as" Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 03:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i'm pretty sure this was beyond his control. i would bet that mafia knew who they were hitting was blue (or at least called empyrean's bluff). i have no idea about new104, if you check the vote threads he voted once but i dont recall ever seeing a post by him. it's either a very lucky guess, or something is amiss (which do you think is more likely?). what we should focus on now are the clues, as with only 1 dt and a jack remaining, the clues will be our strongest hope to catch any mafiasos quickly. Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 03:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Ace: the bumatlarge/randombum clues were from the mafia 'Sidewinder' iirc. I thought we figured out that he was Queasy who was killed? If true, this would mean that the bums are innocent, or at least not linked to that clue maybe i didn't read what you are saying correctly though, and are just talking about the list and not those clues? im confused Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:34 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:so i think we should reconstruct the hitlist then 1. bloodycobbler 2. aznvaliance 3. decafchicken 4-8. ???, possibly more decafchickens. if mafia really did know that decaf was the jack, then it wouldn't unreasonable for them to stack some extra hits on him, in case he had been protected. so veterans or any protected people should report to Ace if they took any hits last night, this way we get a better idea of the missing spots on the list. Anyway, now L is very likely to be killed by either group. i also hope bloodycobbler did not have any kills remaining :\ Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: If anyone else who was hit this night and lived (a veteran or protected) has reported back to you, we can be for sure to fill in the missing spots on the list as hits on decaf, right? barring the scenario of an inactive vet getting hit, I suppose. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 01:38 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:only 1 blue today. maybe the mafia are running run out of information? vote patterns of the dead, hopefully i didnt miss any (pls correct me if i did): if i leave a blank, that person did not vote or abstain that day. + Show Spoiler + Naruto: Day1: randombum Day2: Day3: Day4: d.arkive Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L + Show Spoiler + fusionsdf Day1: Plexa Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ace Day4: Ace Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler + useLess Day1: Ace Day2: Ghar Day3: Day4: [Abstain] Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler + klive5ive Day1: araav Day2: [Abstain] Day3: smurfingchobo Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6: + Show Spoiler + Falcynn Day1: Ace Day2: Mandalor Day3: wurm Day4: [Abstain] Day5: Day6: + Show Spoiler + Joxxor Day1: Ace Day2: [Abstain] Day3: Ghar , bumatlarge Day4: Abstain Day5: evilmonkey. , siefu Day6: L to me it looks like they are targetting mostly people who did not vote on mandalor's list (Falcynn is the exception here). but the people they targeted are still semi-active voters in general. unless one of these persons had 2 hits on them [g.s)Naruto, perhaps] we are still missing a target. ofc Ace most likely knows this already if it was a veteran or protected person that got hit. i think they killed falcynn bcause he was very active early in the game but then he stopped posting it seems, so they killed him before he became active again. i am surprised mtf and plexa are alive, though Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 14:10 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for randombum Ace is far in the lead, and that's a good thing. But Empyrean in the Pardoner position worries me to no end. By voting for randombum, I hope to oust Empyrean from the seat of power which he potentially holds. on Empyrean, briefly: 1. his roleclaiming puts the town on the spot to make a decision, and we also cannot verify this roleclaim for the time being. this is the biggest worry i have. 2. it makes him a target for mafia and their saboteur, basically it's free information for them. 3. ace doesn't like his ideas, we could have another FS/Tracil snafu. 4. a detective might have to waste a role check on Empyrean due to his claims, losing even more for the town. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 24 2008 01:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I abstain until we get the word from ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 10:33 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:i change my abstain to mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 05:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 14:55 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:My first vote remains on Ghar Second to Showtime! Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:08 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [ieatkids5] + 11. ieatkids5 Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:54 ieatkids5 wrote:I abstain for now; wanna hear Ace's plan. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:22 ieatkids5 wrote:I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 18:22 ieatkids5 wrote:My first vote goes to Ghar. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:42 ieatkids5 wrote:I abstain. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 07:13 ieatkids5 wrote:I vote for EvilMonkey and Siefu. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 11:20 ieatkids5 wrote:I vote for crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [imDerek] + 14. imDerek Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:13 imDerek wrote:woot this is gonna be fun Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:58 imDerek wrote:sigh......... Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:03 imDerek wrote:yayy that means I'm innocent Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:57 imDerek wrote:knew L was mafia since day 1 Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 04:52 imDerek wrote:I vote for Empyrean. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 07:19 imDerek wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 03:54 imDerek wrote:I vote for Ace he told me to do it Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 08:27 imDerek wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 02:56 imDerek wrote:I vote for L with both of my votes. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 14:35 imDerek wrote:I will change one of my votes to Evilmonkey. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 16:10 imDerek wrote:okay change my vote from L to siefu so now it is evilmonkey and siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 17 2008 09:32 imDerek wrote:Voting for L Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 12:13 imDerek wrote:I vote for L and suresh0t + Show Spoiler [nemY] + 27. nemY Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:51 nemY wrote: I VOTE FOR FUNSIONSDF to be lynched right now for starting his mayoral campaign before the game has even started. Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 00:25 nemY wrote: Guys... lynch this mofo. He makes too much sense!!! Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:13 nemY wrote:If you're a townie pm me and let's discuss the game in secret haha Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:45 nemY wrote:but not his alias lol ;P Two slots open up I reckon? Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:10 nemY wrote:So I see we're on the road to killing Empyrean. Karma is a bitch... so is band wagoning lololol. Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:14 nemY wrote:More like: Ace Mayor Randombum Pardoner Empyrean soon to be dead Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:21 nemY wrote: You should investigate yourself and report back to us with your findings lol! Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:22 nemY wrote: You accuse me yet again... guys I think Empyrean is mafia! Posted in night7/main_page.067 Posted in night7/main_page.068 Posted in night7/main_page.068 Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:34 nemY wrote:Hey. I'm a townie. No joke here folks. Posted in night7/main_page.079 Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:37 nemY wrote: Really? Because you think there's a foolproof method of winning mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:41 nemY wrote: Well I don't want to die, so just thought I'd clarify that for everyone to see that I am in fact a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.079 On March 21 2008 04:43 nemY wrote:Go hit the bottle. Posted in night7/main_page.083 On March 21 2008 08:23 nemY wrote:Some ppl's characters stand out more than others Posted in night7/main_page.092 On March 22 2008 13:45 nemY wrote:oh wtf mafia hax Posted in night7/main_page.092 Posted in night7/main_page.103 Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 05:42 nemY wrote:Who am I suppose to vote for again? Sorry I haven't been following the game much at all this round Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 10:25 nemY wrote:Fusion's clue's seem too obvious, yet at the same time the way he defends himself seems iffy to me, not sure what to think of that =/ Snake Charmer looks like it could be MidnightGladius, but then again that also seems too obvious. Plexa, while I like your analysis and observations, your clue linking to me seems waaaaaaaay too weak/far-fetched ! Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:19 nemY wrote:Good Job Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 15:43 nemY wrote: I just wanna suspect you so I can avenge myself for suspecting you last game. Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:22 nemY wrote:Mafia seem to be gunning for Ace... and our vig hits are rofl Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 17:22 nemY wrote:I don't know what you're talking about, but I think you should do it. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:09 nemY wrote:Guys, I'm mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.210 On April 11 2008 15:09 nemY wrote:Just kidding. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:44 nemY wrote:Awesome Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 17:05 nemY wrote: It's a song. Regardless, I don't see the connection. Nice try though. <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wznxfa4lIEg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wznxfa4lIEg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object> Song Lyrics + Show Spoiler + I don't know why I let you go You said you'd wait I said I'd hope you would We talked 'til late until we walked away What's meant to be will be the same And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now Driving round and round until its dawn To look for you in rooms we used to go I held you back, I had to set you free But now I know what's meant to be And I feel like stone Yes I feel ice cold I pick myself up from the ground Sick to death of lying down And now I have to find you once again You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now You're in my soul You're in my mind But I don't know where you are now Posted in night7/main_page.222 Posted in night7/main_page.223 Posted in night7/main_page.230 On April 16 2008 01:43 nemY wrote:While I like your passion for the mafia finding, I think your methods are bordering on the absurd. Go take a nap or something Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 13:53 nemY wrote:Clear me of suspicion yet? I'm confused... how did the Jack go Vig and hit a medic? Shouldn't Ace have stopped this?!? MidnightGladius seemed "Gharish" in that there were multiple obvious clues relating to him... hindsight 20/20. Posted in night7/main_page.234 Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 02:24 nemY wrote:The inconsistencies in your guys "detective work" is uhh rather disconcerting... =/ Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 12:36 nemY wrote: Well I don't want to blindly take everything you say as fact now do I? Although, I have to give credit when it's due, I think you've been spot on for the most part. I'm nowhere near the cunning puzzle decipherer that you are, but it's not too much of a stretch to believe that at least one of the "puzzle solvers" (I'll use that term to avoid using the term "detective") is working on the inside. With insider information that only a few people know are privy to, can you blame me for being worked up a bit? One thing to think about in regards to the King Brown Snake being crazie-penguin King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. Penguins shouldn't be able to physically grab someone should they? Not trying to defend him and it's possible Chuiu unintentionally thought of that but... something seems fishy eh? That being said the evidence is mostly stacked in favor of crazie-penguin and his defense is... laughable to say the least. Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:47 nemY wrote: A penguin grabbing both of someone's legs with his beak though? I realize that I'll probably be suspect #1 if I turn out to be wrong in defending crazie-penguin, but do you really think your explanation is plausible? Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 13:08 nemY wrote:Well, I didn't much expect my analysis to hold much water among the elite "puzzle solvers" such as yourself or Plexa. Later on I'll try to see if I can scrounge up anything. Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 08:42 nemY wrote: Remove me please? Unless you have some super evidence that incriminates me. Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:22 nemY wrote: Posted in night7/main_page.246 On April 19 2008 20:36 nemY wrote:MTF fuck you i'ma be gone this weekend but if i die suspet bugzltonnlz and L w/e i'm drunk peace Posted in night7/main_page.248 On April 21 2008 08:09 nemY wrote:I'm going to stop trying to defend myself here and in any future rounds. I'll work on clue analysis instead, but first need to catchup on the game and its facts Posted in night7/main_page.251 Posted in night7/main_page.251 On April 22 2008 12:57 nemY wrote:#1 seems really gay #2 seems unlikely, cuz uhh no offense but neither seemed that intelligent ;P #3 is possible Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 16:26 nemY wrote:Ok, Copperhead's a nerd for sure. That should make some of this easier... Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 10:33 nemY wrote:Sweet Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:51 nemY wrote:This sucks. Ppl gonna try n lynch me =/ Posted in night7/main_page.256 On April 25 2008 16:50 nemY wrote:This is all I got so far as possible suspects. Bare in mind, I tried to completely disregard everything MTF and Plexa have brought up as far as information/suspects, because I find it good to take a fresh look at things. That being said, I still have doubts for the one possible suspect, because there are a few things that don't quite fit. Fanatacist as Joe Pros -has thumbs up pic in his profile -From wiki: Fanaticism is an emotion of being filled with excessive, uncritical zeal, particularly for an extreme religious or political cause, or with an obsessive enthusiasm for a pastime or hobby. According to philosopher George Santayana, "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim"[1]; according to Winston Churchill, "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". Very strict standards and little tolerance. The difference between a fan and a fanatic is that while both have an overwhelming liking or interest in a given subject, behaviour of a fanatic will be viewed as violating prevailing social norms, while that of a fan will not violate those norms (although is usually considered unusual).[2] A fanatic differs from a crank in that the latter term is typically associated with a position or opinion which is so far from the norm as to appear ludicrous and/or provably wrong, while the subject of the fanatic's obsession may well be "normal", with only the scale of involvement being abnormally disproportionate. -Compare that to the things Joe says and does "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!" "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". -and Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind Joe has been incredibly supportive of his cause (of course the mafia would be right?), but to the point where he is picking up the slack of his teammates to complete the missions. Cons -I could find nothing from his "Public Profile" that really ties him into the game -He might already be cleared by "X" list... (damn near impossible to search for the lists etc... hopefully someone can help me out here) Lynching Patterns -Day 2 Mandalor -Day 3 bumatlarge, Ghar (2) -Day 4 Abstain -Day 5 Missed Vote as evident by.... -Day 6 No Vote -Day 7 L, Ulszz (2) -Conclusion I can't really determine if he's a concrete suspect al la Plexa, MTF and the now deceased fusionsdf, but I still think it's good to throw something new out there. Criticisms are welcome. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 00:51 nemY wrote:According to fusion's Trancestorm list, unsoundlogic can't be mafia, because L is confirmed mafia and there's only one mafia noted in that list. Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 01:08 nemY wrote:Can someone put up a list of dead mafia aliases or at least what we expect are the dead mafia aliases? Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 09:46 nemY wrote:To be fair L put up a good fight. Posted in night7/main_page.258 Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 03:06 nemY wrote:I vote for Empyrean Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:48 nemY wrote:I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:02 nemY wrote:I vote for wurm I vote for Showtime Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:38 nemY wrote:Nooooooooooo Posted in night7/vote4_page.005 On April 07 2008 15:18 nemY wrote:Wait your previous count wasn't the last one? Fuck. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 16:01 nemY wrote:I'm so excited even though the Day post hasn't been posted, I vote for Bugzltoonl Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 05:20 nemY wrote:I vote L I vote ulszz + Show Spoiler [qrs] + 48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:48 qrs wrote: You're assuming that a higher percentage of Mafia than of townies will run for mayor, which is not necessarily true, and wasn't, in the last game. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:57 qrs wrote:What do you expect?--be precise. That one mafioso will run for Mayor? Two? All of them? I agree with you that it's a smart strategy to have a Mafia candidate. It's not necessarily smart for the Mafia to have multiple candidates--in fact, I think that's a bad idea for a number of reasons. Townies will not have the same compunctions about multiple candidates. If a smaller fraction of the Mafia than of the townies runs for Mayor, then you've given us a reason not to vote for you. Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:00 qrs wrote: You appear to be #25. Posted in night7/main_page.003 Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:25 qrs wrote:Seems to me that linking to each day/night post in the OP is effectively just as good. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 14:38 qrs wrote:OK, so far fusion, caller, and Empyrean have all said that they will run for mayor no matter what. That means that if they end up mafioso, the Mafia practically has to put them up for election, otherwise it will be clear that they are Mafia (why else wouldn't they run). IOW, if the Mafia puts up, say, two candidates, and any of these three are in the Mafia, he will be one of the two candidates. Something to keep in mind. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 15:23 qrs wrote:No. You keep saying that, but it's groundless. You're assuming that the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of its people for mayor than the town will, but there is no reason to think that that is the case. 1) Last game, when Chuiu closed the vote, 7/57 townies were candidates. 0/14 mafia were candidates. (link). That worked out fine for them, by the way. 2) It doesn't make sense for the Mafia to put up more than a couple of candidates: a) The more people they put up, the harder it is to influence the vote for any one of them. b) The more people they put up for election, the more people fingers can be pointed at down the line. Townies, on the other hand, don't have to worry about these things. 3) You don't seem to realize that your reasoning cuts both ways: Sure, if you're right, and the Mafia will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the town, the odds favor voting for you, but if you're wrong, and the town will put up a higher percentage of candidates than the Mafia, the odds favor voting for someone other than you. 4) In any case, none of that is what I was saying in my above post. I said this: on that 1/7 chance that you are Mafia, you've locked yourself into being the Mafia candidate. That makes it slightly more likely, that between you and another candidate, you are the Mafioso. For argument's sake, take two people A and B. Assume the Mafia has at most one candidate. A has declared his candidacy beforehand. If neither is Mafia, that is that. If A is Mafia (1/7 chance), A is the Mafia candidate. If B is Mafia and A is not (~6/49 chance), B is the Mafia candidate. If both are Mafia (~1/49), A is the Mafia candidate, because he's already locked himself in. So everything else being equal, it is more likely that A is the Mafia's candidate. You are A. You will probably not be Mafia (like any other given person), but everything else being equal, you are slightly more likely to be a Mafia candidate than someone else who is running. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:02 qrs wrote: Maybe you're right, maybe not, but that's not what fusion was saying. He was saying that the odds were better that he would be innocent than any other candidate; hence my post explaining why I think his reasoning there is flawed. You say that the whole notion of trying to pick an innocent mayor is nonsense...I have to say I'm a dubious about that. Surely a good mafioso could use the mayoral position to his advantage. If nothing else--even if we lynched him, we wouldn't have a mayor, and that's a disadvantage itself. Besides, it's not that easy to co-ordinate detectives when we don't know who is one. What if all the detectives investigated the mayor the first night--that would be a waste of detection, wouldn't it? As for your final point: "What those 3 are saying is that they think they are SMART enough to lead the town" (the implication being that everyone else is not?) OK, if that argument works for you, fine. I find it somewhat lacking. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:06 qrs wrote: The point is: they have said they are running. They have no reason to change that, unless they answer to someone else. | ||
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48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:10 qrs wrote: Good, you agree with me. fusionsdf was the one who was saying that there were odds, based on certain assumptions of his. I pointed out that under different assumptions, the odds would point in the other direction. Honestly, I don't think that there's a really strong basis for either set of assumptions. Actually, it's not. Think about it. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:16 qrs wrote: Yeah, that was basically my point. I didn't mean that there is any reason for the Mafia to make someone withdraw their candidacy; only that if there was a reason, they couldn't do it without looking suspicious. All I was saying was: assuming that 1) the Mafia will not cancel someone's candidacy, and 2) the Mafia does not want to put up more than X number of candidates, then 3) a candidate who had locked himself into running beforehand would have slightly higher odds of being Mafia than a candidate who hadn't. Look, I'm willing to drop the subject: it's only a slight difference. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:19 qrs wrote:Fine, fine. I wasn't the one who brought up odds in the first place. They probably won't be the main factor in anyone's vote, but they could be a factor between two otherwise equal candidates. I can see your point that they don't matter that much in the overall picture. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:22 qrs wrote: Heh, a lot of cross-posting going on here. All right, your point is taken too, ahrara. There may be legitimate reasons to change your mind about running, and that undermines the conclusion I wanted to draw. Still, if someone said he was running and then changed his mind, I would make a note of it. Posted in night7/main_page.009 On March 14 2008 16:26 qrs wrote:lol, isn't that the point of the game? anyway, it's late here on the east coast: good night Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 22:47 qrs wrote: It's not really worth getting into again, but my assumption was that a player's deciding to run beforehand would have an influence on the Mafia's decisions afterward (if that player was assigned to be Mafia). IOW, not that there is an increase in the chance of him being Mafia, but that there is a decrease in the chance of other Mafia running. If you don't agree, OK. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:28 qrs wrote: Well, keeping track of the profiles, etc. does benefit us, but more to the point, he bothered to do it. If he was Mafia, that would be a questionable move: who knows how long it would take for us to get the information together otherwise? Therefore I think that araav's using his programming skills to help the town is an indication that he is a towny. Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:34 qrs wrote:All of this is irrelevant. The detectives can investigate the mayor whoever he turns out to be. It doesn't matter whether you call it part of your platform. If you are campaigning for mayor, tell us what you will do. How will you use double lynches, for instance? Posted in night7/main_page.025 On March 19 2008 00:37 qrs wrote: He's not guaranteed to become mayor. You're right, it doesn't prove he's a towny--we can play the double-feint game forever--but it's still something. At the end of the day, the Mafia doesn't want the list up, and if they can get away with no one posting it, they would prefer that. Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:06 qrs wrote: Now, that sounds like a good plan. Let me go you one better (unless this is what you meant): after the bodyguards are confirmed, let the mayor release one of their names publically. If it's a lie, the other bodyguards can call it. Now we have a guaranteed towny and all the detectives, etc. can PM their roles to him. In turn, he can forward them to the other bodyguards, so that even if the Mafia kills him, there will still be townies who know the important roles and can co-ordinate. I'll consider switching my vote to you, but it doesn't matter that much. We can follow your plan whether or not you are the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:53 qrs wrote: That's the main reason I voted for him (although my impression is that Ghar also wants to conserve double lynches). All things being equal, sure it's better to lynch the Mafia early on, but the most important thing is to use our lynches well, as we have a limited supply of them. That means not using double lynches before we have suspects (and if the last game shows anything, there will be suspects later on). Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:35 qrs wrote:Let's worry less about who becomes mayor (since we have very little to go on at this time) and more on what we want the mayor to do. These decisions are for the town to make-- if we can reach a consensus, the mayor should follow our lead. So far, Ace's bodyguard plan sounds like our best shot at getting the most information on our side with the least cost. Ghar's "detective" propostion has a high cost: we blow half of our detectives' most important ability on the first night. What do we gain for losing this? We know whether or not our mayor is Mafia. But this is not even such valuable information! If he is elected already, there is nothing we can do about losing the double lynches. THE "DETECTIVE PLAN" IS NOT WORTH IT. Instead, we should move ahead with the bodyguard plan at top speed. As soon as the mayor is elected, he sends out PMs to the bodyguards. They confirm with each other. As soon as they have confirmed, one of them (say, the first alphabetically) reveals himself to the public. Everyone with roles sends them to him, and he passes the information on to the other bodyguards. All of this needs to be done before the first night. If we move fast enough, we can go ahead and use the detectives like Ghar wants, but only use one of them. If for some reason we do not move fast enough, we have wasted a single night. Still better than wasting 3/8 of our detectives' yes/no questions. Does anyone disagree that we should follow the bodyguard plan ASAP? Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:39 qrs wrote:The most important thing we can do, IMHO, is co-ordinate. We have multiple special roles, and we can't afford to have them duplicate their efforts. That's why we need to find a confirmed towny as early as possible, and I think the bodyguard plan is the best way we know of to do that. My version involves outing one bodyguard, but that's a small price to pay for the ability to co-ordinate. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:44 qrs wrote: Let's discuss what we have now. Like I said, who becomes mayor is less important than what he does. Ace, do you (or anyone else) disagree with me that the best thing to do with the bodyguards is reveal one and let him find out everyone's role? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:51 qrs wrote:Because the bodyguards are the only people that we know to be innocent. How do we find out whether the mayor is Mafia short of wasting half our detectives' yes/no questions? Once one bodyguard has all the information, he can PM it to the others, who are not known. By the second day, ONE detective can check the mayor, and if he is innocent, he can become the spokesman. Besides, the one bodyguard can be protected (or fake-protected) by medics. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:56 qrs wrote:Since the leading candidates disagree with me, I will cast my hat into the ring: I am running for mayor. Why am I running? To implement the bodyguard plan with revealing a single bodyguard. Why do that? To coordinate our forces and save our special powers as much as possible. How will you know I'm not Mafia? A single detective will confirm it. A vote for me is a vote for this plan, plain and simple. There's no other reason that I'm running. If any of the current leaders endorse it, I'll be happy to withdraw from the race and cede any votes I get to them. Edit: re Ghar's post above mine, to clarify my proposition: Before the detectives use their powers, I hope to have them organized, so that they do not duplicate their efforts (same goes for medics, etc.) I don't want the detectives to work alone--on the contrary, I want them to work with the one towny they can trust: the bodyguard. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:38 qrs wrote:OK, reiterating my platform and trying to sum things up. Sorry if this is redundant: 1. Why I am running for mayor I support Ace's bodyguard plan, and all credit to him, but I don't think he is taking it far enough. I want there to be an immediate roleclaim by a single bodyguard (after we verify that no one is being tricky) in order to coordinate everyone's efforts. Since as far as I have seen, no other candidate advocates this, I am running for mayor. If you support my version of the bodyguard plan, vote for me. 2. What I will do as mayor 1. Immediately after taking office I will PM each of the bodyguards with the names of the other bodyguards. They in turn will PM each other with the same information. 2. I will wait a few hours for someone to object. (If I am Mafia and trying to be tricky, one of the bodyguards will object here. If a bodyguard objects, either he or I is Mafia, and all bets are off until the town determines which the case is. If I am a towny, nothing will happen unless a mafioso objects; again, things will have to be put on hold until we determine whether the mayor or the objector is Mafia. [In point of fact, I am a towny.] If no one objects, we can proceed under the assumption that everyone on my list is a legitimate bodyguard.) All of the above is Ace's plan. The following steps are where I differ and why I am running. 3. I will announce the name of a single bodyguard. Alternately, we could agree that the bodyguard with the first name, alphabetically (or a different criterion) announces himself. In any case, we will now have a guaranteed towny to whom everyone can tell their secrets. 4. Everyone with a role PMs the Bodyguard. He passes the information on to the other bodyguards (but not the mayor, yet.) If anyone is being tricky, the bodyguard will know. 5. Assuming that the Mafia does not interfere with this part, the bodyguard will give instructions to a single detective to investigate me. The other detectives can use their roles in other ways. The bodyguard should co-ordinate this. 6. Once I am cleared, I can become the official spokesman for the innocent townies. 3. Why this plan is our best shot It allows us to coordinate from the beginning. Without coordination, there is a high likelihood that we will waste our powers of detection, protection, etc. Coordination is the single most important thing we can do. If the Mafia interfere by making false claims, it slows us down, but also gives us a lead on who is Mafia. With access to all of the detectives, the towny in charge will soon figure out who is lying. The game will proceed with one less mafioso. 4. Objections? Well, we're revealing a bodyguard. Easy solution, though: let the medics protect him for a night. They have no one better to protect, and the Mafia have no one better to target. If the Mafia kill him anyway, they have wasted a lot of their kills in overcoming the medics. If they do not, we have wasted at best a handful of lucky protections, but we have gained the ability to coordinate, which will save us much more in the long run. If anyone has other objections, please state them. I don't care whether I'm mayor (except that I know I'm a towny)--I care that the mayor follows this plan. Discuss? Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:15 qrs wrote: The problem is: the pardoner role is not so useful to the town, but it is rather useful to the Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:20 qrs wrote: What are you saying? That the pardoner can never use his role? And what do you mean "If I'm mayor". I was saying why it would not be good for the town if you were pardoner and Mafia. Read the post I was responding to. Posted in night7/main_page.035 On March 19 2008 07:22 qrs wrote:How would the town know that the person he pardoned was Mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:34 qrs wrote:Can't anyone respond to this post of mine? I don't especially want to be mayor, but I do think that this is the plan the mayor should follow. No one seems to be advocating it or even talking about it. Doesn't anyone agree that coordination from the beginning is the best thing for us? Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:40 qrs wrote: They do know that they are bodyguards: it's a special role like any other. They get a special PM. As for your second point, a) the medics can protect him (unless the Mafia decide to waste most of their kills on one person) and b) even if he dies, he will pass on the information first, so it won't be wasted. Posted in night7/main_page.036 On March 19 2008 07:44 qrs wrote: If more detectives report than really are in-game, then the liar has to be outed first. Have each "detective" investigate something and see who gives the wrong answer. Costs the town one night, but the mafioso dies as well. Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:51 qrs wrote: How? This is what I keep asking. We can't coordinate unless the detectives can all trust someone. They can only trust someone if they know he is towny. That means either: we waste 3/8 of the valuable yes/no questions, or the mayor reveals a bodyguard. Ace has said he does not want to reveal a bodyguard immediately, so how will he be able to coordinate the detectives? Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 07:58 qrs wrote: The problem with that in a nutshell is that you are forcing all the detectives to use one of their two "is-he-Mafia" questions. (If one does not, how do we know that all of them will not?) Surely it's better to save those questions for when we can use them better, and out a single bodyguard (who can be protected or fake-protected). Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:22 qrs wrote: It's a question of supply and demand. They are valuable because they can only be used twice in a game. The "how many voted for" question can be used every night. They don't need to be expended at all (except for one, to check the mayor). If a mafia-member claims to be detective, he can be found out by all the detectives asking a "how many voted for" question. Everyone, this is where Ace differs from me. I think we should preserve our "Is he Mafia" questions and risk outing one bodyguard. Ace thinks we should not out any bodyguards and rely on the detectives to prove the mayor innocent, instead wasting 3/8 of the "is he Mafia" questions and possibly a night (if it takes a night for detectives to get the answer). Read my original post for what I think the mayor should do. Vote for me or post in the thread here if you support that proposal. I won't push this issue any more: I've done my best to convince you all, and if I haven't done so, posting more probably won't help. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:33 qrs wrote: That part of it was covered by Ace's original post: The mayor PMs all of the bodyguards the names of all the bodyguards and announces that he has done so. If a real bodyguard hasn't gotten this PM he announces, and we know that something is wrong. If no one says anything, that means that all the real bodyguards have gotten PMs, and the mayor cannot sneak a Mafia member into the list. (This assumes that we will know the total number of bodyguards, which we should.) Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:04 qrs wrote: Hmm, this seems to be a flaw in the plan. Edit: @ Ace: He's saying that every bodyguard would get a PM. Their PM would list Mafia members as bodyguards. Each bodyguard's PM would list (the same) fake bodyguards as their colleagues. None of the bodyguards would know the difference. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:08 qrs wrote:Ace, he DID find a hole in it: please address it. All the bodyguards receive PMs. None of them receive the names of their true colleagues. None of them know the difference. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:11 qrs wrote: You guys aren't understanding Kau's point. The real bodyguards would ALL get PMs from the mafioso mayor. The PMs would be lies, but they would all get them. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:59 qrs wrote: Or even this (Call the bodyguards A-G and the mafia 1-4): A's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 B's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 C's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 D's PM A,B,C,D,1,2,3 E's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 F's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 G's PM E,F,G,1,2,3,4 Only 4 mafia used in that scenario. The bodyguards will never know. EDIT: looks like I missed a lot of posts while typing that. Will read them now. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:04 qrs wrote:Yes, if E dies by lynching, but that's a big if. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:11 qrs wrote: Sure it is. Why would a vigilante hit a random townie? If anything it's more likely that a vigilante or lynch might pick off one of the 4 mafia, but it's hardly guaranteed. The detectives are a different story. By sacrificing a detective, we will have definite knowledge, but that goes back to Ghar's plan: all the detectives will need to check the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:16 qrs wrote:Much as I hate to admit it, I believe my plan is flawed. As per Kau's post, a Mafia can identify himself as a bodyguard, and all the bodyguards will believe he is telling the truth. The Bodyguard plan is not failsafe after all. Unless someone comes up with something new, we will have to waste some detective power as Ghar has been saying. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:28 qrs wrote:Well, yeah; in fact, once we all know the Mayor is innocent, everyone with a role can and should PM him. I had thought that the bodyguard plan was a way to improve on that, but it seems that it is not after all. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:35 qrs wrote:When I said detective power, I didn't mean just the one detective, but the other 3 wasting one of their "is-he-mafia" questions. But if there's no better way, it's still definitely worth it. Re your scenario, presumably the Mafia could buy days for their mayor at the rate of one mafioso per day. I don't see more than one detective speaking up at a time--that would be very dangerous for the real detectives. Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:40 qrs wrote:I don't think it's clever at all. Even if the pardoner pardons a mafioso it may have been accidental; on the other hand, if he pardons an honest man, we waste a vigilante's kill, and lose the guy anyway. And a smart mafioso will pardon an honest man, knowing this, and still be able to pardon the next mafioso who is up for trial. Basically, the plan sucks (sorry Falcynn, but it's true). Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:46 qrs wrote:So don't laugh. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:09 qrs wrote: QFT. You have said some things that made sense, Ace, but you have also sounded fairly patronizing in many of your posts. At the end of the day, you haven't actually contributed that much more than anyone else. (I was taken by the bodyguard idea when you posted it, but Kau pointed out the flaw in it [as a standalone method].) Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:26 qrs wrote:I disagree. If Empyrean hadn't revealed himself, he might have gotten medic protection. They would all die with him when he was blown up--there's no better use for a suicide bomber. Meanwhile, not much to say about the mayoral elections except if no detective doesn't reveal Ace as Mafia after a reasonable amount of time, everyone with a role should PM it to Ace. Not just detectives: vigilantes, hatters, jacks, medics. Coordination is important to avoid duplication of efforts. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 13:01 qrs wrote: At best he's a townie sounds right to me. But I agree with Yogurt: lynch someone who hasn't said a word. Reason: lying low benefits the Mafia if they can do it. If we lynch the quiet people (when there's no better suspect), we encourage people to speak, which can only be good in the long run. Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:28 qrs wrote:Reason? Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:34 qrs wrote:I don't think you can take credit for the idea: Tracil was pushing it from the beginning of the first game. But I agree that it's a good way to lynch when there is very little to go on. Posted in night7/main_page.065 On March 20 2008 13:41 qrs wrote:LOL. Maybe it wasn't such a great plan after all. There's no way to tell if he really was inactive. The game hadn't really started. Posted in night7/main_page.066 On March 20 2008 13:46 qrs wrote: There is one thing that he could have done: Lynch a known townie (like Empyrean). 100% odds of killing a plain townie vs. ~16% odds of hitting a Mafia and ~20% odds of hitting a special role. Maybe that would have been a better way to play it, in retrospect. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:49 qrs wrote: You really don't know that. @Kau, see my post above for who he could have lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:52 qrs wrote:Look, you can't call someone inactive for not posting in the thread the first day. Nothing had happened: virtually no clues, no kills. Not much reason for activity. True he didn't vote, but maybe he didn't care who the mayor was. TBH, it doesn't matter that much who the mayor is as long as he is not Mafia, and he plays remotely reasonably. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:54 qrs wrote: If he's lying, he's either Mafia, or a very shady towny. Posted in night7/main_page.067 On March 20 2008 13:56 qrs wrote: Maybe you're right. Chuiu didn't make the rules clear on that point. Chuiu, if you're reading, could you clarify? What do you do if someone misses a vote? Posted in night7/main_page.068 On March 20 2008 14:05 qrs wrote: I think we have the explanation, guys. Nothing more to talk about. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:12 qrs wrote:Showtime!, have you seen this thread yet? It might be a better locale for your posting spree. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:18 qrs wrote: Yes, someone did have a better idea: Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:21 qrs wrote:Shallow, we should get one thing clear: you're the crapstirrer. You did it all last game, you're doing it again this game. (Not that it bothers me, but he who accuses...) Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:29 qrs wrote:I believe his story about being drunk because it makes the most sense whether he's Mafia or whether he's townie. How would these posts benefit him in either case? As for my saying you were the one stirring things up, I was thinking about other accusations you've made so far, not only this one, but I'll drop it--as I said, it doesn't bother me. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:35 qrs wrote:Look, in hindsight, I think it's clear that araav had the better plan. There are a lot of special town roles in this Mafia game. In fact, there are more special town roles than Mafia roles (without counting bodyguards). That being the case, it probably would have been smarter not to lynch (if you have that option) or to pardon your lynch (if you don't) rather than risk the 1 in 5 chance of killing a valuable towny. By the second day, you should hopefully have more information about the roleplayers, so that would no longer be an issue. But it's water under the bridge now. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 qrs wrote:Wait--PMs are already coming in? That's not good. We need to wait at least some hours before we can be reasonably sure that a detective has investigated the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:03 qrs wrote:Well, he's not Tracil. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:17 qrs wrote:um...how? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:24 qrs wrote:A mafia mayor will never act in the best interests of the town. He will always act in the best interests of the mafia. If the best interests of the mafia are to keep their man alive and let the townies do a double lynch or something, he will do that. If the best interests of the mafia are to let the townies kill him, he will do that. This seems obvious to me. edit: Ace does have an interesting point about playing some sort of weird psychological game, letting him vote and double guessing his moves, but honestly, I don't think too much info can be gleaned from that. He can just abstain. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:31 qrs wrote: You're changing the subject. We were talking about known mafia mayors. Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:47 qrs wrote:Araav, it would be the same situation no matter who was elected mayor. We can't be sure that anyone is not Mafia. If the mayor is a mafioso, I'd rather lose a detective than have him go undetected: a mafioso mayor can do a lot of a damage. So even on the "die" side, I think losing the detective is the least of all evils. On the "do" side, of course, if the mayor is a townie we gain a ton by having someone we know is a townie, and protected. If Ace turns out to be a mafioso, we'll just have to move on without our double lynches--we haven't lost the game yet. As for lynching InControl, I've come to the conclusion that it was a bad decision to take the risk (since we have such a high percentage of role players), but Ace did have a logical reason for the lynch (better than FakeSteve's last game). Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 21 2008 00:23 qrs wrote: To be honest, if it's a strategy at all, it can't be a strategy for the first lynch only. The whole point of it is to make people afraid to lurk, but if they know that there is no chance of their getting lynched for lurking after the first day, why would they care what the first-day lynch was? If this is a strategy, it has to be at least a part of the strategy for all lynches: i.e., everything else being equal, we lynch the quiet one. Not much we can do about InControl being dead, now. By the next lynch, we will hopefully have more information. Wait--that gives me an idea for a role in future games! Necromancer: The necromancer has the ability, once every ten turns, to bring one of the dead back to life. A clue will be left behind pointing to his identity. Or something like that. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:24 qrs wrote:I think you're misunderstanding fusion. He means that Empyrean was a gift of a sacrifice: someone who was practically guaranteed not to be a role-player. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:25 qrs wrote: That's not a proof: the roleblocker doesn't even have to use his role tonight. No point in trying to deduce Ace's orientation: we'll find out soon enough one way or the other. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:27 qrs wrote:just an example. I don't know what the best way to balance a role like that would be. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:54 qrs wrote: Definitely all real detectives (and all other roles) should be in contact with Ace as soon as enough time has passed to be reasonably sure that he is a towny. (Certainly by the next day. Of course, detectives can find out earlier.) As for how to find out the impostor, it's simple--just get a few detectives to ask the same question that night (debatable whether to have them all ask the same question or split them up 3/2). If one person gives the wrong answer, he's Mafia. Of course, a mafioso can probably give the right answers most of the time: but he doesn't want to. He'll never know how many other detectives you are asking the same question at any time. If he is too cautious in playing his role, he might end up being an asset to the town in spite of himself. In fact, it's probably a good idea to check detectives against each other even if four or less report, just on the chance that a detective is inactive and a mafioso has bluffed. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:20 qrs wrote:Read the OP, Op. (short answer: no.) edit: or maybe you meant can a suicide bomber kill paramedics protecting him?, which--maybe, but why would a medic protect the mayor? Detectives don't protect people. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:24 qrs wrote:It's in the original post, like most of the details about special roles. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:29 qrs wrote:Wow, relax, ~OpZ~. I wasn't attacking you; I was just pointing you to where the information could be found. The last edit to the OP was yesterday. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:19 qrs wrote: What would be the point of that? Unless you think that the Mafia will obligingly confirm as Mafia instead of town. Posted in night7/main_page.077 On March 21 2008 03:23 qrs wrote: You're joking, right? In case you aren't: how could it possibly help you? Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:42 qrs wrote:Here's how I see it: everyone with a role PM should send it in to you, absolutely. Mafia has to decide whether to fake claim a role or not. Everyone else: you may as well assume they are green. If a mafioso isn't faking a claim to be blue, he will claim green as a matter of course, so why bother sending in the PMs? It's just a waste of everyone's time. IOW, let's just save some time and agree that no PM = claim to be a towny. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:43 qrs wrote: some were, some weren't Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 04:06 qrs wrote:It makes plenty of sense. A PM that says "Hi I'm townie", if everyone has to send it, tells you nothing more than no PM would. The starting assumption for everyone is that they are townie. Here, instead of a PM, I'll just tell you in the thread. I am a vanilla townie. (honestly, did that really tell you anything?) Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:10 qrs wrote: It's not that dumb. Assuming that all blues (+ fake-blues) send in their roles as they are supposed to, it makes absolutely no difference whether the rest of us officially declare townie or not. No one's going to declare Mafia, and anyone who was going to declare roleplayer should have done that. But on second thought, I concede that if we are afraid that some blues will stay low for whatever reason (although they shouldn't) and we are afraid of lynching them by mistake then the "I am townie" statement does do something: it tells the mayor "I am not an inactive blue". Posted in night7/main_page.082 On March 21 2008 07:33 qrs wrote: And this way, Mafia have to PM that they are townies. And that's exactly the same as doing nothing in the original scenario. They don't have to reveal anything about themselves, they don't have to contradict themselves, all they have to do is say something that is implicit from the very fact that they are playing the game. This is not an "exploit". The one slight reason I can see for having green townies PM is to eliminate the possibility that they are inactive blues. If everyone is playing well, this shouldn't be necessary (because all blues should respond) but, OK, it's possible that not all blues are paying attention, so it doesn't hurt to PM Ace--more information is not bad. In any case, I've already said in the thread that I'm a vanilla townie. (If I'm actually mafia, the Mafia knows it and if I'm actually a roleplayer, Ace knows it.) PS-French Toast has just jumped to the top of my suspicion list. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:09 qrs wrote:The clue for Ghar seems pretty incriminating, but I assume that Ace will have a detective confirm it with Chuiu. Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 22:44 qrs wrote: Sure you can, although the Mafia would still need to coordinate. If 2 Mafia hit someone he dies; if only one hits him, he lives. (The cap of 9 could be first come first served.) I think it was Fen who suggested a system like that after last game, but I don't recall Chuiu saying that he had decided to go with it. Posted in night7/main_page.110 On March 24 2008 06:20 qrs wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure about this. It's to the town's benefit to lynch mafiosi as early as possible, to bring down the kill count. I was waiting for Ace to investigate Ghar, who seemed like a pretty sure thing based on the head clue, but it sounds like he isn't planning to investigate him this turn. I'm still undecided about who to vote for. There's also the fact that I may not log in again before the vote is closed (traveling). I am voting Ghar for now; if Ace makes a good case for lynching someone else (or even says that he is 95% certain of someone else) and I have time to switch, I will switch my vote. Ace: the earlier you can tell us who to vote for, the better. Posted in night7/main_page.111 On March 24 2008 06:24 qrs wrote: How sure are you of him? Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:26 qrs wrote:FWIW, I agree with Mr. Pink on this one. 48 hours a day is 48 hours a day--a rule is a rule. Why should the rules be bent to help the town? Some people are treating this like the town is somehow the "good" team that "should" win, but that's ridiculous. (And if you think a post like this is evidence that I'm Mafia, that's ridiculous as well.) Besides, personally, I'd prefer to see the game move along instead of dragging out. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:38 qrs wrote:Why keep responding to HeRoS? Whether he's Mafia or town, he's just cluttering up the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 25 2008 00:25 qrs wrote: More or less the same as the proportion of mafiosi in the town as a whole. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:19 qrs wrote:Definitely suspicious. Posted in night7/main_page.124 On March 25 2008 01:26 qrs wrote: I don't find that strange. He didn't get elected: it makes sense that he would lose some interest. (happened in the first game too.) He's still been posting occasionally, and continuing to contribute by updating his list of profile info. Frankly, there's not that always that much to say. Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:39 qrs wrote:Yes: his own words after the final vote-count (but before Ace accused him): Posted in night7/main_page.125 On March 25 2008 01:43 qrs wrote:I didn't share your initial impressions (I voted for him, actually): I thought that he presented a reasonable platform (although not as extensive as yours), and I thought and still think that his argument that he was contributing to the town was not a ridiculous pretense. It doesn't prove he is a townie, but it goes some way towards that. The mafia would have to think long and hard before letting a member go ahead with posting something that could help link clues to people, just on the chance that it might help him get elected. You're entitled to your suspicions, of course. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 01:48 qrs wrote: In these games, clues can help find mafiosi and having a master list of profiles and relevant info seems like it should be very helpful in matching the clues with people. Put it this way: maybe I'm overrating it, but if I was Mafia, I would prefer not to have a master list like that out there. If araav hadn't done it? Maybe someone else would have. Maybe not. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 01:51 qrs wrote:We can argue about how suspicious araav is (I don't suspect him at all; Ace does), but we don't have anything like the severed-head clue pointing to him at the moment. If araav is the best we have, I will be voting for Ghar in the next lynch. Might be worth setting a detective on the severed-head clue. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:36 qrs wrote: Who else has already done it? I don't even know what you mean by that: if araav was the first to produce the list, anyone who came after only had to copy his list. On a different subject: TO ALL VIGILANTES AND/OR ACE: re vigilante strategy, I'd like to suggest that we not use up vigilante kills until we have more suspects than we can deal with through lynches. For instance, at the moment, Ghar seems like a very strong suspect, but after him, the evidence on everyone else who has been brought up is a lot weaker. It might seem attractive for a vigilante to get a sure kill by killing Ghar tonight, but if the day comes, and we haven't yet figured out a sure lynch (or two) and waste the lynch on a townie, the vig kill will essentially have been wasted. As the game goes on and we/Ace figure more things out, we will probably have more suspects (as in the first game) than we can handle at one time, and then the vig kills will come in handy. When there's a line for the first cash register, that's when it's time to open the second. Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:07 qrs wrote:Comment/concern: Sounds like a plan, but it should not come at the expense of lynching a mafioso tomorrow. Right now, as far as I'm concerned, Ghar is the prime suspect, at least until a detective tells us that the severed head did not point to him. If Ghar is suspect #1 or suspect #2, or if there is a stronger case pointing to them than to Ghar, I'll go along with the vote. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 06:36 qrs wrote:Sure, but we can do both: simply make Ghar either Suspect #1 or Suspect #2 and proceed with the plan. Unless you have better suspects by the time tomorrow comes, I can't see a reason not to do that. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 06:55 qrs wrote:Yeah. I don't think one should. Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 08:24 qrs wrote: No more flawed than a vigilante's role. No more flawed than town's ability to lynch, for that matter. Of course, if you plant the bombs before you're sure someone is Mafia, you risk killing a townie, the same way that vigilantes risk killing townies and the town risks lynching townies. As long as the mad hatter role is used well, it's just another way of killing Mafia. That can't be bad for the town. Posted in night7/main_page.131 On March 25 2008 10:05 qrs wrote: More important to find a confirmed townie to whom Ace can pass his list of special roles. But that's a long way off for now. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:28 qrs wrote: Do you have any reason besides him not PMing his role? You can't have gotten PMs from all the green townies. I agree that abstaining instead of voting Mandalor (if wurm did that after you posted to vote for Mandalor) is slightly suspicious, but I don't see almost-certainty. On another subject: a comment about the latest detective plan. Instead of spending a detection on the 7 people who voted for Ghar (since only 1/7 are mafia--less than the overall percentage, and only 1 mafioso total), have you considered going after the larger pool of people instead? Put it differently: you mentioned two groups: a group of 58 with 10 mafiosi (1/5.8) and a group of 7 containing 1 mafioso (1/7). You neglected the final group: a group of 58 with 9 mafiosi (1/6.4). Why not get to work on this group? We divide them in half (more or less) every turn, so the sooner we start on the large groups, the better. Edit: The best of luck to you, Chuiu. May your ailment soon pass. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 21:27 qrs wrote:Not sure if I want to go along with lynching Wurm, when we have a much stronger suspect in Ghar. The question is: is it worth a single investigation to possibly preserve a medic? The evidence against wurm seems very circumstantial. Ace, I'll PM you when I have time. I don't plan to follow our mayor blindly. Even if he did win the game, it wouldn't be very fun for me, if I was just his mindless drone. That doesn't mean I'll oppose him just for the sake of it--I'm perfectly willing to go along with the plan and vote for suspect #1 if there's a good case for the one we end up lynching, but atm, I'm not convinced that it's time to lynch wurm. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 22:52 qrs wrote:Yes, I've seen your posts... Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:16 qrs wrote:One more thought about the detective plan: We only need one detective to split a group. E.g., if 4 people in half #1 are mafiosi, 6 people in half #2 must be mafiosi. Technically, there's no reason that both halves have to vote unanimously. Therefore, we can speed things up by going a few steps at a time: e.g., first 29 people vote for suspect #1, second 15 people vote for suspect #2. If we have more detectives, we can go on: third 7 people vote for suspect #3. This way we maximize our detective power. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:22 qrs wrote:If anything, the Ghar list reduces his chance of being mafia. Chance of anyone not on the Ghar list being Mafia is ~1/6.1. The out-of-nowhere clue I like better for Ninja. The shotgun clue may be a good one, though. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:45 qrs wrote: Wurm would only know that he protected someone, not how many people did: Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:50 qrs wrote:^Your point being? Ace was saying that wurm (the supposed medic) should have said something if 2 people protected the target. edit: d'oh, you're right. Yeah, Ace should know if 2 people protected Falcynn (or whomever). Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:55 qrs wrote:Read Ace's post, then read my post, then read my edit. ;-) There was a hole in what Ace was saying (that wurm should have said something in case 2). I was responding to that, but, yeah, I missed the obvious point that Ace should know what happened anyway. I don't know why he's being tricky about it. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:57 qrs wrote:@ Ace: Whoever the medic(s) protected knows how many people protected him. He should tell you. Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 01:59 qrs wrote:Because he blurted it out earlier in the thread. I'll dig it up if you want. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 02:04 qrs wrote:page 95 Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 03:03 qrs wrote:I don't think there is a strong enough case to lynch wurm over Ghar. As far as leaving him to die, does anyone think the Mafia will kill him if they know that we will lynch him tomorrow?Showtime!, what are you talking about? Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 06:35 qrs wrote:Double lynches aren't free kills. We only have 6 of them. Anyway, you still have tonight to prove yourself, wurm. PM Ace the name of the person you're protecting--if you're lucky, Mafia will go for him. Ahrara, the logic behind Ace's plan is very simple: simply a way to narrow down who the Mafia are. It only works if people follow it. Why would you abstain? There aren't enough detectives to check everyone individually--otherwise this game would be a lot easier for the town. If you are townie, it hurts the town for you to vote that way. If one person can get away with doing it, anyone can, and the plan goes down the drain. That alone would be a reason to lynch you, whether you are townie or not. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 09:38 qrs wrote:Yes, I understood what he meant. My point remains, we don't have enough detectives to check everyone individually. They only have one check a night. It's far more efficient to check large groups and narrow them down, as per the plan Ace is following, then to check groups of 1, or small groups. So what were your notes on me, Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 10:13 qrs wrote:who cares? Posted in night7/main_page.142 Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:46 qrs wrote:They're good at hitting blues but bad at maximizing their kills. Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 11:48 qrs wrote:LOL. Good catch. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 23:41 qrs wrote:someone kill showtime! please Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:35 qrs wrote:Just caught up on the last 10 pages or so... I seem to be alone in this, but TBH, for argument's sake, if someone hacked into a chatroom, I would see that as part of the game, not even BM. Like picking the lock on a conference room in real life. But it's a moot point. Anyway, I don't want to derail the game, but it's gotten to the point where I just don't want to read Showtime!'s posts anymore, no matter what his role is. Casting my second vote to lynch Showtime! Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 00:35 qrs wrote: I am a townie, I've said so in the thread, and it wouldn't make a difference if I PMed Ace. Absolutely true. Posted in night7/main_page.168 On March 29 2008 01:11 qrs wrote: I wish Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 01:22 qrs wrote:No, you missed the point, Showtime! And you keep missing it. QFT. You can have the last word if you like, Showtime!, I won't post anything more about you. Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:39 qrs wrote:Yes, no need to check Ace. Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 09:47 qrs wrote:*Jaw drops*. If Ghar was a townie, I'm done with clue interpretation. Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 14:08 qrs wrote: Thank you, Captain Obvious. Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 30 2008 21:34 qrs wrote: Huh? Posted in night7/main_page.178 On March 31 2008 13:24 qrs wrote:If Ace has really quit (although I don't think he has), the one to replace him would have to be randombum. Because of his bodyguard protection. Edit: crossposted with nightmare Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 20:36 qrs wrote:If Ace is Mafia then our detectives were all worthless. PS-Thank you, Queasy. We all owe you one. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:44 qrs wrote:Remember, the detectives were probably protected by medics, so the Mafia had to waste some hits to be sure of killing them. If they were being ultra-safe and using 3 hits each, that's 6 hits used up right there. Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:24 qrs wrote:Waiting on Ace, but so far, araav seems at least suspicious, given what we know: viz, he got into a chatroom and had a chance to see the names of people who had roles. He's never really addressed what happened there. Araav, I think it's time for you to explain yourself. How did you find it, why did you go there, what did you see there? And why did two detectives die last night? | ||
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48. qrs Posted in night7/main_page.185 On April 04 2008 21:00 qrs wrote: In short, you are saying that this IRC channel never was? Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 04 2008 23:36 qrs wrote:Araav, I still don't understand what you say happened with the "channel". Let me summarize your so-called "answer to the accusations": 1) Please don't call me bad names. 2) Don't believe everything everyone says. 3) I'm not sure what you meant by this. It sounds like you're saying that the channel didn't exist. Or are you saying that it existed but there were no blues there? In any case, how would Mafia know this is false any more than townies? 4) Showtime may be a Mafia member. Three irrelevant points and one that sort of addresses the issue, but is too vague to understand. Can you just say plainly what you mean? Was there a channel at all? Were you in it? If Showtime! made the whole thing up, say so. If that's not what you meant, say so. Meanwhile, you continue to make illogical insinuations that Ace is Mafia, even though ALL of the detectives were supposed to investigate him, and NONE of them said a word. You seem to be a smart guy: this lapse in logic is...odd. All this adds up to: I vote for araav until he defends himself more clearly. Posted in night7/main_page.186 On April 05 2008 03:33 qrs wrote:If the Mafia tried to kill them before, then the Mafia didn't want to keep them alive, wouldn't you say? So they didn't do well at the stated goal of making the Mafia want to keep them alive. Not that it really matters... Ace, what's the deal with araav, and this whole chatroom thing? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 06 2008 13:52 qrs wrote: What is the basis for this belief? Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 01:55 qrs wrote: Showtime! was full of it. I should hope Ace would tell us if we were voting for someone who was confirmed innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 07 2008 19:56 qrs wrote: OK, I admit that showtime was an idiot and the chatroom story made very little sense anyway. The only reason I half-believed it was that Ace had been backing showtime up. I don't know what Ace is thinking, though, so since he hasn't brought it up since showtime died... I'd change my vote, but the final vote count is in. Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 13:42 qrs wrote: It's not just phones; there were some references to lead, I think. Cf., e.g., this post. Posted in night7/main_page.200 On April 10 2008 21:04 qrs wrote:What the hell, Ace! Maybe it's your fault, maybe not, but you've done nothing but screw over the town this game. Don't check out the Ghar clue, make us lynch wurm, take the lynch off the suicide bomber so we lynch a townie instead, apparently leak information (deliberately or not) that leads to Mafia figuring out half the roles! I'm through taking direction. Plexa's list seems to be the best thing we've got now. Posted in night7/main_page.201 On April 10 2008 23:06 qrs wrote: Showtime! said a lot of things, most of them idiotic and/or trying to make himself look important. Ace himself has already "confirmed" at least one mafioso as a townie. I consider Showtime!'s "confirmation" worth absolutely nothing. Posted in night7/main_page.202 On April 11 2008 01:47 qrs wrote:thought better of my post; pointless to criticise over spilt milk Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 07:45 qrs wrote:No, but the fact that you've been wrong about many of the things you have told us seems to indicate that. That pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it? But I thought it over and you do have a point; there's not much gained by me bitching about your leadership. And although you've done pretty badly overall, I have no reason to think that I would have been any better. I edited out that second post of mine, and I won't bring the subject up again. I will shut the f--- up, in other words. (You can keep voting for me if you like: hopefully it won't affect whom we lynch.) On the subject of L, I was convinced at first, but once I actually looked at the numbers, they don't seem to add up. As LTT pointed out, there are a lot more than 12 nails. Edit: And if you're counting the nails that hit him, there are only 8. + Show Spoiler + Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 10:01 qrs wrote:After thinking over the evidence, I'm going to vote for suresh0t. I think he's the Wolf. Here are my reasons: 1) We don't know a whole lot about the Wolf, but one thing seems to be clear: he hits his targets (sure shot). Of course the most blatant example of that is: That's the only one I would regard as a strong clue, but looking at the other times we've met the Wolf, they check out as well: Neither Chuiu nor Caller can dodge the Wolf's attack. (The other mafia missed plenty, and sometimes the victims survive for a while.) As I said, though, it's the first quote which really stands out. A nail thrown down the hall, killing instantly? I mean, come on, if that's not a sure shot, than nothing is. 2) Someone pointed this out a long time ago: suresh0ts signature, "Please forgive me for questioning divinity, it's an ugly job but I think I'm up for it", fits with "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand." (faux-apologizing for attacking an authority-figure) 3) His posts? Pretty bland. His votes: goes with the bandwagon or abstains. Not proof of anything on its own, but certainly what I would consider consistent with a mafioso trying to lie low. 4) For what it's worth, he's on the Mandalor list. 5) This is the clincher. We've all been wondering about those nails, right? Check out what suresh0t is holding in his profile pic: That's right. A hammer. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:20 qrs wrote: Yeah, sorry, I thought the hammer was something new, but looking back, I see that Plexa had already alluded to it. Anyway, regardless of who found which clues, the stuff pointing to suresh0t is starting to add up, no? As opposed to the very strained interpretation of 12, since the numbers don't really add up to that. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:29 qrs wrote:Since my last post got buried after a minute here's the summary version of the clues that connect the Wolf to suresh0t: 1) Doesn't miss. 2) Tells Chuiu something that is very similar to suresh0t's sig. 3) Nails. suresh0t is holding a hammer in his profile pic. Also, 4) suresh0t is on the Mandalor list and 5) he's been posting very lightly and bandwagoning or abstaining in votes. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:01 qrs wrote:^You have a reasonable excuse for abstaining--I wouldn't vote to lynch you just for that. All I say is that it is consistent with what a mafioso would probably want to do. As for the nails, I don't agree with you that they necessarily point to Cottonmouth. They were lying around: any of the mafiosi mentioned in the post might have left them there. (original post) It's a good point. Are we sure that all those detective checks were from real detectives? (I suppose that if Ace doesn't tell us otherwise, we should assume so.) I'll cast my second vote for fusion. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:20 qrs wrote:Either one of you and Chezinu was Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance was mafia as well, or one of the other three (going by those lists: I didn't see when they were originally posted). The thing is: whether you are Mafia or not, lynching you (out of the six) gives us the most information. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 11:56 qrs wrote: Because we don't know what happened. araav says it wasn't him. Ace sort of maybe says that the blues weren't in the channel, or only some of the blues were in the channel, I don't know. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 12:08 qrs wrote:It's easy to manipulate statistics. For example, you write, "Keep in mind that none of us are in the mandalor list, so the odds of any of us being mafia is about 1/10." That has nothing to do with it. 1/10 would be the odds if all we knew about was the mandalor list. But we have other information. Either one mafioso voted in both lists or two mafioso voted: one in each. That means either the trio of ImDerek/evilmonkey/alventenie contains one mafioso or all are innocent. If they are innocent, you are Mafia and one of useless/aznvaliance is mafia. ImDerek: 1/6 chance of being mafia (1/2*1/3) evilmonkey: 1/6 alventenie: 1/6 fusion: 1/2 (1/2 *1) useless: 1/4 (1/2* 1/2) aznvaliance: 1/4. edit: I agree it seems likely that there was some kind of leak. Ace already said that at least some of that was Mandalor. Maybe other fake blues picked up information as well. If it was araav, shouldn't Ace be pushing for his lynching? Then again, Ace hasn't been acting that rationally recently, so I don't know. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:04 qrs wrote:To be fair to Plexa, he came up with the number 12 before he could think of anyone to link it to. Even so, it seems like a very weak clue to me. The daggers I could maybe buy, but the nails just don't add up. 16 mentioned, 10+1 thrown/stabbed, 7+1 hit. Where do you see 12? We shouldn't split our votes so much that a non-candidate gets lynched (e.g. me--6 votes; evidence: "I want him to shut up" ). I still think that more clues point to suresh0t than to anyone else. My second vote is for fusion atm, but I'll change it if necessary. Posted in night7/main_page.207 On April 11 2008 13:11 qrs wrote:^fusion, you're twisting the stats. The Ghar/Ace lists give us more detailed information than the Mandalor list. Yes, 7/63 people are mafia, but 1 or 2 of those 7 are one of you 6. You might as well say, "Of the billions of people in the world, what are the odds that I'm a mafioso?" Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:25 qrs wrote:I've read all your posts. Even you admit that there are clues pointing at you. What should I do, take your word that you're innocent? If you get lynched and flip green, I hereby apologize now. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:35 qrs wrote:There's also the sig. My take on the nails? Maybe Cottonmouth picked up the nails that Wolf had left lying around. Or maybe you're not the Wolf after all, but you are Cottonmouth. Or maybe the nails don't point at you. I'm not sure that you're Mafia, just there's more evidence for you than for anyone else, IMO. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:04 qrs wrote: Wow, was that a confession? Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:23 qrs wrote:Well, we know who our next lynch is. Guess he won't need a blindfold. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 12:36 qrs wrote:Nice work spotting those clues, by the way. It was obvious once you pointed it out, but no one had seen it. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 19:51 qrs wrote: I can't believe you actually think your convoluted numerology constitutes strong evidence. No offense--you did great with BlindAlbino, but the Master of Chaos "clue" is absurdly strained: + Show Spoiler + Cottonmouth: Cottonmouth is surrounded by numbers. By counting up the number references in the Day posts he shows up in, we arrive at this: Day 2: Specific numbers mentioned: 2, 1, 1, 4, 3, 1, 3, 3, 4, 1, 4 = 27 Number placements: once, fourth, = 5 Name (OneBlueAugust): 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 = 10 Total: 42 (40 + day 2) Day 4: Specific numbers mentioned: 5, 6, 3 = 14 Name (New104): 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4, 1, 0, 4 = 30 Total: 44 (40 + day 4) #40 on the participant list is MasterOfChaos. I don't know whether MoC is Mafia or not, but I'd bet a thousand dollars that your evidence has nothing to do with it. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 20:48 qrs wrote:It's not "also"--it's necessary to your interpretation. I find plenty of room for coincidence.It's not a matter of logic but of judgement. I'll say no more of it now--if you've convinced people, they'll vote for him--but after the game (if not earlier) we'll see whether you were right. I'll be stunned if you are. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 21:01 qrs wrote:I was going to leave it at that, but since you posted while I was writing that, and since you specifically tell me to reply, I will: 1) Chuiu has never based clues off people's numbers in the list and I don't think he ever will. This is an important point, because it makes it MUCH easier to twist the clues to point at anyone you like. Everyone has a number, not just people like Eti307 (and by the way, I think it's more likely that some of the numbers [3-0-7 nails] point at him than at MoC), and the numbers go in increments of one. That means all I have to do is find a couple of tweaks to your count to make the clue point at someone else. It also means that ANY number you came up with would point at someone. 2) You don't count things like "a", "the", "another", because they are not literal numbers, but you do count "once". That's not a number any more than "a" is. 3) Subtract the number of the day? That strikes me as particularly tortured. You only do it to make your count consistent. I do think the numbers--OR SOME OF THEM--are probably a clue. I don't think you've interpreted that clue though. If you still disagree, fine, you're welcome to. The truth will come around in the end. Posted in night7/main_page.229 On April 15 2008 22:11 qrs wrote:*sigh* I hardly think it's necessary, but to make you happy I had a look to see what I could tweak and I noticed that you had inexplicably failed to bold "two knives met his hands". Oh, hey, now the numbers both add up to 44! They must point at str! (sarcasm, but that would still be marginally more convincing than your original version). No, I don't want to be stubborn about it. I wasn't going to post again until you specifically told me to. I'm not going to debate "once" vs. "a" with you now, because it's not worth the effort. Neither one is a cardinal number. Both refer to single things. If you see a difference between them, that's great. I did point out where I felt your analysis was stretched. I can't say "wrong" because there's no proof per se against your concoction (nor against any other 'clues'). I just don't find it very credible. I've said I'm willing to drop this. You're the one who's being stubborn. I know you're proud of your detective work, but that doesn't mean that anyone who disagrees with you is Mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:51 qrs wrote:I don't have much confidence in Ace's judgment, since it has been wrong more often than it has been right so far. Meanwhile, unless I missed something when I was catching up on the thread, the whole accusation against L was based on a mistake that L pointed out and Chuiu confirmed. Therefore, as far as we know, there is no case against L at the moment. (Of course, the Mafia knows he's a medic now: too bad...) I will not be voting for L this lynch. I'll probably vote suresh0t because of the clues that seem to point at him. (summary: + Show Spoiler + 1)sure shot: 1-hit kill with nail thrown down hall; twice says that Caller tried to dodge but couldn't. 2) signature: apology for taking on God (authority) but someone has to do it, corresponds with the Wolf's apology to Chuiu for killing him (Chuiu was an authority figure in the Mafia). 3) Profile pic: hammer--goes with nails. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 17 2008 23:30 qrs wrote:OK, maybe. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes and I don't know whether everything you've done so far has brought the town closer to victory, so I'm not commenting on that. All I see is the final results, and based on those so far, I'm not ready to vote for someone just on your say-so. If L turns out to be Mafia, I'll get behind you again. If he turns out to be townie, I'll be that bit more skeptical of you. So we'll see. People are saying that L is a suspect for other reasons. Can anyone summarize them for me, please? Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:30 qrs wrote:Thanks. My thoughts on those clues: 1) Not that strong: for all we know, L did protect decaf, but it's something. 2) OK. 3) weakish. 4) OK. 5) Don't think this one is a clue: L wasn't drawn as unattractive in the end, and there isn't so much evidence that Enigma is unattractive. Overall the evidence seems fairly good, though, although I still like suresh0t better. Thanks for clarifying. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:39 qrs wrote: They both seem pretty strong to me. suresh0t seems to have more things pointing directly to details of his profile, whereas with L it's more of an overall reference to the character L: enigmatic, concerned about justice, possible connection to a detective (hmm, it just occurred to me that the note could be a reference to "death note", too). I favor suresh0t slightly, but L would likely be my second choice. The only other issue is that he may be a medic. I guess we need to trust Ace to handle that end of things. Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:40 qrs wrote:The Wolf. One person. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 17:36 qrs wrote:^your wikipedia link was to the main article L, which was about the letter. no matter Wow, awesome, araav (the blog post especially). You're saying that a German translation that means target is a more natural connection to accuracy than "sure shot"? Can't say I agree with that... To add to the possible evidence against suresh0t, there's a reference to the Wolf carrying debris out of a building (after d.arkive's suicide blast). Why would anyone do that? It sounds a bit like a construction worker (the hammer again). Granted, this particular connection is a bit weak, but does anyone have a better explanation for "carrying a pile of debris"? Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 02:50 qrs wrote:Cool, good job with crazie-penguin. I have to admit that I was skeptical about the evidence, but I was wrong; nice work. Re Eti307, let me remind you of something someone else suggested a while ago (forgot who it was): the number of nails Cottonmouth uses may relate to Eti: 7 stabbed in the back, 3 thrown but missed, 1 not thrown at all (stopped by the Wolf, = 0). That would connect him to Cottonmouth rather than Joe, but it's something else to keep in mind. (307 doesn't fit with the number of knives, though, so I'm not really sold on this.) Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 23 2008 19:05 qrs wrote:MTF, for God's sake, stop adding up the stupid numbers! It was unconvincing from the start, and it's only getting more and more strained. The only numbers we care about are the weapons Cottonmouth uses. Haven't you noticed that there are always 15? edit: It's not %100 clear. I assume that the two that klive dodged were the same two that Cottonmouth threw and I count the five nails lying on the ground but I don't count the nail that the Wolf took from Cottonmouth. Posted in night7/main_page.253 On April 24 2008 04:10 qrs wrote: I have a slight objection to lynching L unless we have no other good suspects. Reason: 1) There's still the possibility that he's a medic and 2) even if he isn't, we can still use him as one to a degree. E.g. if we want to keep Plexa alive (or someone else--no one too important, though), just keep telling L to protect him. Either L lets him die and we lynch L then, or he lives. Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 17:30 qrs wrote: Not really such a big deal: there are only 4 double-lynches left. Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:02 qrs wrote: Can't comment on the generally annoying part--sorry, I guess--but what is "resistant to Town" supposed to mean? I've voted, commented if I thought some clue interpretation was convincing/unconvincing. What else is a good townie supposed to do? Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 18 2008 23:20 qrs wrote:I have to admit that the thought crossed my mind to run myself, but after seeing the explosion of posts on the first day--forget it. If the pace stays even close to this, I'll never be able to keep up. For that reason, I vote for randombum. He says that he'll have the time to spend on this game, and he proved it by sending out over 100 PMs. ______ PS-Obviously, had I run, my campaign would not have been about me (who knows me?) but about my platform. So I may as well say what it would have been: these are the things I think are important for a mayor: The Mayor by QRS -Don't use double lynches unless we have a solid idea about who to use them on. In the last Mafia game, the town followed Tracil's rule of using double lynches every day (until they lynched the mayor) and they were both wasted. There is a limited supply, so we should use them wisely. -Delegate. This game is so huge it will be very hard for one person to keep track of everything. Assign several people to keep track of people's profile quotes and any other evidence on them. Better, ask everyone to keep track of, say, the two people above them on the list of participants. That makes things more manageable. (OK, it wasn't a huge platform. ) Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:25 qrs wrote:After reading some more of the other thread, I withdraw my vote for randombum. I vote for Araav. I agree with his view on saving double lynches (which is the most important power that a mayor has for the town), and he seems like a sensible guy overall. Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 11:55 qrs wrote:Haven't had a chance to catch up on the reading yet and I see that the bandwagon is heading for Ghar, so I may switch my vote, but for the moment: I vote for French Toast: his wild accusations about "cheating" made me suspicious. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:21 qrs wrote:I retract my vote from French Toast and vote for Ghar based on the severed head. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:29 qrs wrote:Won't be able to log in for some hours: I retract my vote from Ghar and vote Mandalor. Trusting Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 12:20 qrs wrote: Why? Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:47 qrs wrote:I vote Ghar. Will possibly change my vote later according to Ace's plan. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 29 2008 00:36 qrs wrote:Second vote: Showtime! Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 04 2008 23:37 qrs wrote:araav Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:39 qrs wrote:You either missed my vote on the first page or you're very particular about protocol, in which case, I vote for araav. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 00:05 qrs wrote:Based on Plexa's and HeRoS)Pink's analysis of the number clue, I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 01:32 qrs wrote:Changing to abstaining (after actually looking at what the numbers were, not so clear that they mean 12) Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 10:05 qrs wrote:First vote: suresh0t. Second vote: abstain, for the moment. Posted in night7/vote5_page.002 On April 11 2008 11:10 qrs wrote:second vote: fusionsdf Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 23:51 qrs wrote:I vote for suresh0t Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 04:14 qrs wrote:I vote suresh0t and ulszz + Show Spoiler [randombum] + 17. randombum (Pardoner) Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 randombum wrote:YAY can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:36 randombum wrote:With over 130 people... votes alone are going to take up 7 pages! This one's going to so easily surpass the last games post count. Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 02:15 randombum wrote: Fishball you'll find that quite a few people post here on TL just for mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 11:53 randombum wrote:Ahh man, I really want to be mayor that would be sweet. Just getting my name out there. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 08:35 randombum wrote:They should just give you powers to change titles . Of course you would only use it for your own game. . Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 05:12 randombum wrote:Can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 09:08 randombum wrote:3 more hours!! Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 11:05 randombum wrote:So... any rough estimate on when u pass out roles tonight chuiu? Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:57 randombum wrote:LOL Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 11:59 randombum wrote:You guys will be surprised how many of the less active members will come back for their roles. See they are normal townies, read my PM vote for me, and sorry for getting hopes up. I did not intend for that. And yes this takes much more work than just 1 topic in this thread. But that is to enhance point 1 in which I have way too much time to this. Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:08 randombum wrote:I think you spent more time writing that response than I did writing out my PM. Thanks for the effort and the consideration. Posted in night7/main_page.015 Posted in night7/main_page.015 On March 18 2008 12:16 randombum wrote:This isn't politics (mayor part is). THIS IS MAFIA!!!! + Show Spoiler + You expected sparta didn't you? Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:31 randombum wrote:If I was able to outwit everyone, or have a better answer than them I would make a potentially very dangerous candidate. Consider, everything I say is perfect, I can change the minds of a convinced crowd into another opinion, but even when I'm wrong I can convince them that they are wrong. A person with such good persuasion would probably become mayor. That is what you recommend I do, but if I were that good, and (I'm not) if I was a mafia, then the town would be in huge trouble. I will never tell you what to do, but simply to provide what evidence I get (hopefully I can convince the town to send me roles and do what hotzhot did last game which helped the townies alot), and/or how I interpret it. Right now my main tactic is to get my name out there and hope that people who don't care too much about mayor will give it to the person who wants it most. P.S. I wish chuiu would post when he's going to start handing out roles, I'm so anxious. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:32 randombum wrote: Such hostility, what exactly did I do to offend you? Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:39 randombum wrote:Vote for me and you get As your mayor (Courtesy of somuchbetter) Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 12:42 randombum wrote: Is dapperdan on? Can he do the roles. Gosh this waiting is so ahhhg.... can't describe. To pass time we can do more bum bashing. I personally think they smell rather bad. (both British bums and American bums.) Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:03 randombum wrote:How can you define better answer though? Player2 still has his reasons for player 9 and player1 has not convinced anybody. He has merely said: "Hey you may be right and I will consider it, but I will stick to my original opinion." However, I agree with the way you have it set it. That is, people sharing opinions and ideas with respect given all around. (stop the hate?) I also concede the fact that having a better answer would be a good thing. I was just pointing out that having a better answer all the time and able to change other people's opinion may not be the best mayoral candidate. Imagine somebody able to change other people's opinions very easily. He would be a very strong mayor IF he had perfect information, whereas a mafia with that ability has all the information he needs. This skill would help a mafia mayor more than a townie mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:12 randombum wrote:With chuiu's post I go to sleep. Thanks for all the hard work chuiu, I found out how much effort it takes to send pms to hundreds of people. Not to mention the posts take a lot of effort. As to the others thanks for the stimulating conversations along with helping me build up resistance to written abuse. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:32 randombum wrote:I'm back from sleeping/school. And I shall start my campaigning. This will be a lengthy post. First off reasons for voting me: 1. Again I do have far too much time over 10 hours a day to spend on this. (I likely will not spend all 10, but depending on how much I'm needed IE if in the first night we kill 12 mafia.) 2. Tracil a mafia vet has pointed out that double lynchings are good for the town. And they are, here is my belief of them: In a game this big the hardest thing is finding out who is mafia. Information is needed for lynching mafia correctly. More lynches will almost always give information for the town to try to decipher. More information leads to mafia lynches the next day. 3. As CDR pointed out my lynching/voting for last game was immaculate. He points out that he is hesitant because I did not vote the first few days (where town got it wrong), but that is incorrect I ABSTAINED from voting because I did not find sufficient evidence for those getting lynched. My good voting skills is a good base to judge me because I will likely lead the town to victory. 4 This is more of plea than a real reason, but I have built up a lot of enemies with my pms, and unless I get bodyguard protection I'm fearful that the mafia will target me, or vigilantes who are mad at me. I shall now go on to point out what other leading candidates have had to say. Your plan involves building up trust where people send information to the mayor just like hotzhot did last game. That is good, that is also my plan as I stated earlier before roles were given. Only your way of determining yourself as a townie is not as efficient as hotzhots' was. Either a detective has to waste his scan confirming you are indeed townie, or he has to publically declare himself as detective and say you are not a townie. Thereby getting the detective murdered and you lynched costing the town. This is no problem if you are townie (well a wasted DT skill) But there being no real way to determine townie on the first night so your point on detectives finding mayor is moot. 1. I do not see how being the oldest makes you any better at being mayor. Sure there is wisdom with age, but most people on TL have gone past adolescence and are rather intelligent. They do not need an older person telling them what to do. 2. I do not see how double lynching later into the game helps the town. If the town has reasons to suspect two people and asks for the double lynch will you not do it? 3. Again, if the town wanted him dead who are you to deny the down of their votes. Its like saying: "Hey I don't respect your opinion, this man lives" 4. Again, I do not see how this is relevant to being mayor. 5. That is a nice list, and perhaps I would have done it had I been awake when sonuvbob asked for it. However it leaves out pictures which was what chuiu based some of his clues off of (zdd grim reaper) Also, that list is already available on the first page. I don't know how you do it, but I had to do it rather slowly, clicking names-pm-type in subject-copy Paste. The process itself is rather easy, but multiply it by about 150 and a 5 second thing can take 12 minutes. I didn't even do it that fast because it took over 40 minutes maybe I'm just slow? Regardless it showed effort from me. Far more than it took for you to say: "hey look I so great I can do twice what he did in 1/20th the time! More importantly, you care less for being mayor than making fun of me. That is neither detrimental to the town, nor is it very polite. Empyrean is hurting the town more than he is helping by declaring he is a DT. Think about it. Either he actually is and the mafia now know who to stop (sabotage) or kill if he is not elected. HOWEVER, he also could be a lying mafia. The only way to prove that is if OTHER detectives come out wait! WE are the detectives thereby killing EMP but costing us all our DT's. You risked one of the town's greatest roles for a selfish reason. (getting elected when you cannot prove you are DT) Lastly, ACE you have a lot of posts so I will not try to spoiler all of them merely debate your points. Your bodyguard plan is good actually. Very good. The only flaw would be inactive bodyguards, OR mafia killing a few bodyguards b4 they can confirm they recieved the PM. Thats no likely so it should work. Actually, there's nothing really wrong I find with you. I would be more than happy to be mayor/pardoner with you. Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 02:57 randombum wrote:I think it's because the bodyguard plan doesn't really do much. Either the bodyguards know who the other bodyguards are, thereby they will not lynch each other. But thats the best. What he means (well what I take him to mean) is that a mafia mayor will not lose any of the powers of being mayor regardless of the bodyguard plan. That is a mafia for mayor will still follow the plan and it would not really hurt him. Edit: The plan only works if the (mafia) mayor does something stupid and try to mess with the list. Edit: added (mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:24 randombum wrote:Ace the bodyguard plan is not faulty, but merely that even if implemented its not that great. True that is 7 people who are working together, but 10(mayorx4) will not be able to change much with 130 people voting. It is FAR more important for information to be shared with everybody. (not who are bodyguards but other information.) The mafia or pardoner's position should be the mouthpieces of the town. Detectives (don't have to reveal their detective status) can send information to mayor. The mayor repeats it to the town. Thereby giving the town the ability hear all the information from everyone, but keeping those people anonymous. So the more involved people do not have to share their opinions publicly. This keeps our active people alive, but they ideas are still shared. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:28 randombum wrote: Your way still involves the detective's using 1/2 of their best ability on you. They ARE at risk because a mafia can easily say hes a DT and that you are not mafia. Then for him to be stopped the real DTs have to say hold on WE are the DTs not him he must be mafia. Now the fake dt/mafia is exposed and lynched soon, but the Dts, get murdered and the town has ultimately lost. Also having detectives to verify jacks/vigilantes is not as good as having detectives try to find mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:29 randombum wrote:It was my plan first. Edit top of page 16 not 19 >.< Posted in night7/main_page.029 On March 19 2008 03:45 randombum wrote:Your right of course, the bodyguard plan is the best at the moment (I agreed with this earlier). Also I would argue role claiming is a HORRIBLE idea. Its the quickest way to get the important roles killed. Unless its to the mayor which is my plan anyways. You are right Mayor will obviously be believed if the town trusts his worth (which they should eventually that or lynch him). BUT if the bodyguards vote in conjunction with the mayor they will quickly be murdered then the mayor can be murdered. The mayor could sway the votes, but for it to work they would have to have information not just his own+ his bodyguards opinions. Dunno, it seems like many of us share similar ideas, its just who the town likes more. Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:49 randombum wrote: Thats perfect. Bodyguard plan-> known innocent-> information sharing (most important)-> coordinated effort. HOWEVER, I don't think we need to sacrifice a bodyguard. The information could be sent to the mayor on Day 2 instead who will then become the town leader. Why do you think we should risk a bodyguard for something the mayor can do? Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:41 randombum wrote:This round dectective's have a new skill which does exactly that. (ask chuiu for his position) Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:23 randombum wrote: We don't lynch anybody as a town the first day. The elected mayor gets to lynch somebody. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:35 randombum wrote: This is assuming empyrean is telling the truth. That is impossible to tell atm. (Well if chuiu goes nuts and say he is but...) Either way, vigilantes and other powerful townies are as free to rape as they want. Furthermore, gathering information is pretty much the basis of me and ghar's platforms. I do not see how him being a DT as mayor would help us anymore than being a DT but unannounced. Again, there being no way of verifying his spot. (without the 4 REAL dts saying they are dts which would hurt more or as much as a mafia mayor). Ultimately, we either vote empyrean and he has told the truth. Good. Or, we just ignore him as this could easily be a mafian ploy to get mayor. The only way he could be found to be false is to give up some real detectives. Bad. And yes, the mafia POV is they tie up empyrean every turn (until they figure out another position). But this costs the town 1 role where before the mafia would have had to guess what townies had what. Edit: wow like 4 people beat me while writing this. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:41 randombum wrote:I think that's a good interpretation I highly doubt that wolves are a red herring and is an actual clue. Therefore I too believe CTStalker is a likely mafia. Edit: clarity. Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:49 randombum wrote:Last game there was sufficient evidence for dr.dragoon. Still the town was wrong. That said, I think all opinions and suspicions should be stated in this thread. (Important suspicions due to roles should be sent to someone who cant be murdered once they are proven clean. but there are no abilities used yet anyways.) The reason for stating suspicions publicly is that people cannot suddenly vote to tip the balance (mafia like). They will have a background of saying "I think it might be him". Also while you should not say let's all vote for him until you get good evidence saying it might be him may help the town to reason out clues. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 12:58 randombum wrote: Not always... using clues the first game hurt town quite a bit. But we'll see, the mayor will likely have to do it randomly. (minus his bodyguards of course. Can he lynch the pardoner?) Edit: bolded a question I wanted read. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:04 randombum wrote:Ace, I'm sort of curios as to what method you would use to lynch someone when you are (likely) elected mayor. I don't think it will change your election. Unless you say you are going to kill one of your voters, but unlikely. If its something that can't be shared yet then don't obviously. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:08 randombum wrote:Does it involve a random number generator ace? That will quickly get you lynched or lose your votes. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:10 randombum wrote:Lol ok then Posted in night7/main_page.054 On March 20 2008 04:38 randombum wrote: You are assuming that empy is telling the truth. That assumption could cost the town a crap load if he isn't. The only way to prove he isn't mafia is if the real detectives step forward and say HEY we are detectives and he is lying. Either way its hurting the town. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:06 randombum wrote:Is ace on? Will he be able to give his speech and secret project he's been hinting at? Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 randombum wrote:Edit read previous post. That would rock. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:31 randombum wrote:Chuiu, I think just switching it to me will smooth the game along. I already have my target picked Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:37 randombum wrote:Edit: NM crd changed his question Posted in night7/main_page.063 On March 20 2008 13:10 randombum wrote:Dang ace crushed my dreams. I wanted to feel my PMs worked so I could make fun of people who laughed at it. Posted in night7/main_page.063 Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:21 randombum wrote:Guys you all FF'd up. Ace lynched a townie EPIC FAIL!. JK Guys stop bashing on Ace for making a hard decision. I will definitely be more active than tracil at pardoning if there is good reason to suspect that he is getting lynched do to mafia activity. You can pardon the first days lynch??!! I was under the impression that I could only pardon lynches voted on by the town. Either way I probably would've let it go though. Inactive people don't help town anyways. (Not to mention there was no real announcement for me to stop him) However, I am of the opinion that lynching is almost always better, so I will really have to be convinced to pardon someone. Grats to ace, cant say I'm not a little upset, but you put more work into this than I have so its all good. On that note I know I said I would have time to spend on this game, but some family showed up for spring break so I will be busy entertaining. Posted in night7/main_page.070 On March 20 2008 14:39 randombum wrote:Well I'm off to bed, its surprising ACE ffn it up. I hope we can create some good communication between us to help the team. If it helps I pardon him for his mis-used first lynch Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:57 randombum wrote:While I personally believe ace is townie, I've had a thought recently about how we shouldn't send in roles yet. No DTs speaking up is a good sign. But I've recently gotten a PM from a supposed DT who did NOT check ace's validity. I think perhaps we should spend some time to make sure theDts have had time to actually check him. (As in some of them did not scan ace thinking others will, but if one DT scanned someone else maybe more did.) Also as to no BGs speaking up this does not mean his plan has worked. Ace was given a list of people, and if even ONE of those people are inactive his plan fails (If he is mafia he can change it). By taking an inactive BG off the list and putting in a mafia he can trick the BGs into thinking that ace is clean when he might not be so none of the BGs will speak up. Like I said I think he is townie, but we should take some time to make sure that he actually is. For either inactive DTs or BGs to do their job or until chuiu takes out inactive. We have a lot more town than mafia, we can wait another 24 hours or so at least. Posted in night7/main_page.104 On March 23 2008 14:35 randombum wrote:I just voted for ace suckers. Ace you better have a plan or else my vote will stay on you. Mwahahahahaahahha! JK I will obviously change it when we are given our target. Posted in night7/main_page.112 On March 24 2008 06:53 randombum wrote:I voted. Posted in night7/main_page.113 On March 24 2008 07:36 randombum wrote: As a vigilante last game I asked chuiu similar questions and here are the responses I got. The mafias kill count will not be affected that night, so yes the mafias target will still die. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hey quick question, when a vigilante correctly and kills a mafia, does that mafia's target still die? Depends on who's hits I get in first. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thanks, how about the opposite? If I use my vigilante kills and the mafia kill me. Do my targets still die? Posted in night7/main_page.130 On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote: Difficult? All we have to do is sit here and let ace lead us to victory. We don't have to do anything anymore. DTS + Ace= winning the game for us, all we have to do is vote for whom he says to vote. If anything its too easy and has become boring. Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:01 randombum wrote:Y disable me? I'm only pardoner the person who will be lynched will likely be mafia. Y would they want to prevent me from saving him if I were so inclined? Posted in night7/main_page.132 On March 25 2008 12:10 randombum wrote:yes pangolin. its in the op Saboteur - The saboteur is a special mafia role, he may disable one players abilities once a day/night cycle (excluding the right to vote). Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night. You may not use this on the mayor election lynch and only the player whose abilities are disabled will be informed of the action. You may not use this role on the same person two consecutive day/nights in a row. Posted in night7/main_page.139 On March 26 2008 04:54 randombum wrote: I have no more information than the rest of you greens. Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 11:00 randombum wrote: Because new people will be voting so they will still need to check both groups. Unless all mafia are accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:40 randombum wrote:Hmmm quite a few accusations of me. To clear the air I would recommend dts to reference those clues towards me and If I'm the bum its pointing at then lynch me. If its not then bumatlarge must be looked at. Posted in night7/main_page.151 Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:59 randombum wrote:I wonder how many of showtime's post are in this thread alone. I've seen like 5 every page for the last 5 pagse. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:14 randombum wrote:I got it ace. You double lynch I'll pardon ghar. Chuiu never changed OP to say how many we had. We have X number, and we all know X means unlimited. So do it!! Posted in night7/main_page.158 Posted in night7/main_page.159 On March 28 2008 03:53 randombum wrote:LOL whoops chuiu, I was only reading the descriptions of mayor/pardoner, and they said X number so i figured you would change them too. Nevermind to my pardoning then I vote to lynch both ghar and wurm. More information is a good thing regardless of if they are mafia/townie. True mafia is preferred, but mafia suspects or detrimental townies should get lynched. The quicker we find out true townies/mafia the less townies the mafia have killed before we lynch them, and the less power they have because some are lynched. Posted in night7/main_page.160 On March 28 2008 06:55 randombum wrote:It's not like I'm involved in the townie's defense system. I am simply one of the cogs who vote when told to. Don't waste a rolecheck on me. Just clue check me vs the bum clue. Its either me or bumatlarge. Its not like I handle any more information than the average green anyways. Posted in night7/main_page.169 On March 29 2008 02:14 randombum wrote:I was wondering if I should have revealed I knew about dinmsab's role, but I guess since you bring it up it's irrelevant. If I was mafia wouldn't he have died the next day? I'm pretty sure killing a dt (arguably the town's most useful role) is worth 1 mafia, if I was mafia that is. Once again I ask that you guys just clue/role check me vs the bum clues, it will be quite evident if I'm the bum. To reiterate, CHECK THE CLUES AGAINST ME. Rather simple, I don't want to be lynched because I knew somebody's role. I mean ace knows all the roles.... (and there have been 6 blue deaths.) Granted he's likely also a townie, but once the check turns me up as townie I hope I won't have to suffer for getting a position thats not even useful. I mean, I likely won't pardon anyone unless right at the last second ace gets pushed into getting lynched or something. I mean if you guys want to lynch another innocent townie then don't bother checking me and just lynch me too Also, it's possible dinmsab was just good luck, I mean they killed a whole bunch of random townies that day. I hope this doesn't get lost amongst showtime's many posts per page. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 06:02 randombum wrote:Man finally free, going to catch up on this thread now, looks like a lot of things have been happening. Posted in night7/main_page.238 On April 17 2008 11:20 randombum wrote: A lot of people (At least me personally) are checking the thread and reading it. But we don't want to take the time to go though deciphering clues, or put out accusations that we will have to defend and support. There are a lot of reasons for this, and for me personally it was my lack of involvement in the important decisions. Anything I say puts me at risk, and I may not be right or listened to. So yea, people might just be reading it and not bothering to post until their life is in danger. Too many townies are willing to take a spectator seat in this game. Also, I thought we had the game in the bag with the dt # system, but since we are counting only on clues now I will probably start contributing my thoughts. Especially since I'm safe from mafia. So far all I've got is that plexa and MTF seem like they are smart and should be protected. | ||
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17. randombum (Pardoner) Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 03:12 randombum wrote:I'm surprised I still have some suspicions, thats fine I guess this whole game is about suspicions. Personally I'm against lynching L because we have as much information on other mafia suspects, and these suspects don't have a chance of being a blue (regardless how small, I mean ace has made mistakes, he may be wrong again). Just a quick thing to point out, while L in the manga/anime fits enigma somewhat, he was definitely NOT ugly. At least not hideous, out of the two main characters 1 was actually considered hot (He was super popular and all the girls admired his looks.) And scorch, the person who made that sign of me was falcynn, who is likely not mafia, so "a pretty cool guy" wouldn't point at me regardless.I am in support of ace's newest post of Ninja/dragoon/damage (Not so much, seems rather forced upon him) along with plexa's newest findings I think we are moving in a great direction, and we probably have a list of at least 1/2 the remaining mafia (I'm sure ace has more). Also, I want to point out that we are finding clues to point at people because we want to, we should look at clues and apply them to people instead of choosing people and applying clues to them. I hope that made sense. Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 11:35 randombum wrote:Nightmare I haven't been active because I have had nothing to real contribute. I'm not used to clue analysis since all my mafia games have been based of of the players actions and voting patterns (in which case I would be suspicious of me too, but I wouldn't advocate lynching me.). The only time I come back is if I have something to say that is not really clue analysis. As to your points, even IF the mafia did try to get me into office wouldn't I have gotten it? I mean there are 20 mafia (19 if you suspect me) who could vote for me, yet I only had 28 votes total. Furthermore, just because the pattern at the moment seems like mafia wanted me as mayor it doesn't conclude with me as mafia myself. They probably did not want Ace as mayor since he seems like he had a lot of experience and would be a better mayor. (just a guess) Besides, its not like I need to be active anyways. There are 70 townies left, we have over 10 days to lynch the mafia. This does not include their kill power going down with each lynch. If we get 2 mafia today it will take 14 days before all us townies die. And seeing as there are only 14 left they still won't be able to control the vote for at LEAST 10 days even if we don't manage to lynch a single one of them in those 10 days. These overwhelming numbers is why I have cut time for this game. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:40 randombum wrote: I abstain Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:45 randombum wrote:Abstain - 3 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum LAWL it cant be 3 then list 4 names just an error you might want to change. (also pointless cause its abstain which is unimportant.) <-- (the ) Edit) Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:02 randombum wrote: What a coincidence, so did I. I also didn't put the town in danger by claiming roles. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 14:34 randombum wrote:I vote for ACE!!!! Its more fun this way. If I remember to change it I will (same as abstaining). If not I should be the only dude voting ace anyways. Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 15:17 randombum wrote:Actually, thinking about it I'm going to just abstain. It wouldn't due good for the mafia to use my fake vote on ace to stir up trouble between us. Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:52 randombum wrote:If its confirmed then I vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 14:13 randombum wrote: I'm pretty sure voting like that doesn't count make sure you change it. I vote for Wurm Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 03:01 randombum wrote:I abstain Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 08:37 randombum wrote:I'll Abstain since it seems either way its a dead mafia. (with crazie a safer bet but hes lynched anyways.) + Show Spoiler [rpf] + 130. rpf Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:33 rpf wrote:I didn't play before, but I'd like to play this time. Posted in night7/main_page.071 On March 20 2008 15:00 rpf wrote:What do you guys mean when you say you're going to "lynch a lurker"? I didn't play last round so I'm a little lost. T_T Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:14 rpf wrote:Ah, that makes sense. So what happens if Ace is found to be a member of the mafia? Doesn't that really screw the townies over? Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:17 rpf wrote: I haven't played before, and I'm sure as fuck not reading 72 pages of this thread to figure it out. Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 01:06 rpf wrote:I vote for ghar. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 18:29 rpf wrote:I vote for zeks. Posted in night7/vote2_page.009 On March 25 2008 06:23 rpf wrote:Fuck! I came back to change my vote, but I missed the deadline. I had no internet all weekend until about 20 minutes ago. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 10:57 rpf wrote:I abstain from both votes. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 06 2008 00:39 rpf wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. + Show Spoiler [smurfingchobo] + 45. smurfingchobo Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 09:13 smurfingchobo wrote:Can't wait. I hope more people are active on this one. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:41 smurfingchobo wrote: Can't wait. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 21:32 smurfingchobo wrote:Wow. Got lots of pages to read up on. Can't believe Inc is dead. Shame we didn't get to see what advantage the Mad Hatter played Btw, was Inc's lynch just a random pick or was there a reason? Guess I'll read through some pages and see if I can find my answer. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 21 2008 20:11 smurfingchobo wrote:Posting as well since I haven't had time to read through all the pages yet. Will hopefully get it done by the weekend. Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:39 smurfingchobo wrote:1 down, 19 to go. You rock, Ace! Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:44 smurfingchobo wrote:People who abstained should vote for who, Ace? I know you said to vote for whoever but do you have anyone in particular? (I actually voted last time but it didn't count because I edited my post instead of making a new one) Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 05:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I actually voted in Day 2, but it wasn't credited due to me editing my post instead of making a new one. I wasn't actively reading at the start when people were voting for Mayor and stuff so I didn't get to vote. I've made only a few posts, I admit, but it's only because I don't really have anything to say. Also, when I do find something that intrigues me, I find someone already posted about it. I'll try to be more active from now on but with Plexa interpreting the clues so amazingly, I don't really know how much I'd be able to contribute (besides voting). Posted in night7/vote2_page.004 On March 23 2008 20:45 smurfingchobo wrote:I change my vote from abstain to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:51 smurfingchobo wrote:I edited my post a few hours ago, Chuiu. Post is here: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68352¤tpage=4#69 For future reference; Am I supposed to edit my previous post or make a new post stating that I want to change my vote? Thanks. Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 16:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for KH1031 My second vote Klive5ive (Just some random votes for now since Ace said vote for anyone) Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 06 2008 07:08 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for TranceStorm. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 05:05 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote Evilmonkey My second vote for Siefu Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 17 2008 12:54 smurfingchobo wrote:I vote for L Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 02:25 smurfingchobo wrote:I change my vote from L to Crazie-penguin + Show Spoiler [spoinka] + 93. spoinka Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 18:37 spoinka wrote:morning fellow liquidians! ok , so far araav seems to be a trustworthy mayor in my eyes.i mean no mafia would bother writing a script to fetch all the profiles (not even the most dedicated mafia with a super evil masterplan). only flaw is that he didnt post a real strategy yet.only the common "i will be a good mayor , i hate fakesteve etc." stuff. ghars plan is looking solid on the first view although it probably has its flaws somewhere.it seems the whole strategy is too "fixed" and inflexibel.it could totally backfire if the mafia finds a counter to it and we are screwed. dont have enough info on the other candidates yet to make up my mind... Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:19 spoinka wrote:yea you are kinda blackmailing us with revealing your role Posted in night7/main_page.026 On March 19 2008 01:02 spoinka wrote:ace seems to be quite experienced player and his start-up plan combined with his other posts so far make me believe he would be a good mayor. im gonna vote for him now Posted in night7/main_page.027 On March 19 2008 01:38 spoinka wrote: i really think its too early to just concentracte on those 4? not even 50% of liquidia has voted yet :D Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:54 spoinka wrote:btw. did Chuiu say something about day/night length? and time till the mayor election is open? Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 06:55 spoinka wrote:oh sht im blind Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 02:07 spoinka wrote:i want day now . Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:39 spoinka wrote: one of the most suspicious post ive seen in this round so far edit:joking? Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:44 spoinka wrote:haha , actually 3 people owned your ninja edit Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 21:06 spoinka wrote:i think its too early to make accusations based on the 1st victims/killing-pattern of the mafia. just imagine you were mafia and some townie interprets some clues that point to you/someothermafia you would not go and kill him the 1st possible night.that would be just too obvious.you would rather kill random townies or townies who were on the wrong track to spread even more confusion in town. ofcouse this only applies at that early stage of the game. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 14:03 spoinka wrote:ok ive been reading up the last ~60 pages (been away a few days). but i just dont get what happened in the "blue" chat channel..araav found a way in there and joined?and all of our blue guys were sitting their with their real forum nicks?means the game is pretty much over if he is mafia? *totally confused* Posted in night7/vote1_page.003 On March 19 2008 00:58 spoinka wrote:I VOTE FOR ACE + Show Spoiler [str] + 44. str Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:36 str wrote:so my exams are over, lets see how long it takes for me to catch up on 127 pages of wild accusations + Show Spoiler [suresh0t] + 97. suresh0t Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:05 suresh0t wrote:I posted my thoughts in a blog because it was long and in response to two other peoples thoughts... CLICK HERE Posted in night7/main_page.055 On March 20 2008 05:06 suresh0t wrote:also if that is against the rules i will post it here as well... I'm not completely sure if it is ok to post in a blog as opposed to in the actual forum. Posted in night7/main_page.080 On March 21 2008 05:51 suresh0t wrote:double lynches in the hands of a mafia mayor are just as effective as in the hands of non mafia. it's more likely that he got roleblocked because he is a non mafia, but that leaves open the two step ahead area. I'll go ahead and assume he isn't mafia until I'm told otherwise from a reliable source. Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:48 suresh0t wrote:I would guess it was a vigi kill on shadwdrgn, Max doesn't really fit the mafia code names and neither does his style of killing and he was alone etc etc. I'm saying this so we don't go trying to lynch whoever comes up on the clues for that one, the mafia already would know that they didn't kill him if it was a vigi kill etc. THREE BLUES WTF :-(. That is bad manner mafia, i hope we burn 2 before nightfall! Posted in night7/main_page.151 On March 27 2008 12:53 suresh0t wrote:I'm sorry but Max doesn't fit Pangolin...look at how he killed him. All mafia have been in groups. Max is a Vigi! Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:51 suresh0t wrote:no dinmsab! :-( <3 Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:53 suresh0t wrote:Oh also if Ace can tell us if there are any other Vigi kills, because if there isn't then we have all 20 names for the mafia with the extra 1 which is Max the Vigi. I'm assuming that isn't to much info to reveal. Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:01 suresh0t wrote:That is the only vigi kill right? Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 15:08 suresh0t wrote: So that is our Mafia Name list in full...maybe we should try to pinpoint which one was mandalor and then we can cross him out etc. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:46 suresh0t wrote:this is not kosher...a blue and a green!? WHERE IS THE MOFUCKING RED :-(. I hopes some vigis have good targets tonight >_< Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:47 suresh0t wrote:ps does this mean we are at least a little closer to discovering the fake medic? Posted in night7/main_page.176 On March 30 2008 13:36 suresh0t wrote:ah finally i'm a suspect ish...i was getting bored of doing nothing but trying to interpret clues, now i'll get to play defense? well no i don't play defense, you all think what you want about the clues... As for Mr. Orange if all you got to go on is tools, and the fact that it was Mr. Pink who used the skull like a "hammer" as I'm thinking where the connection is, is quite loose. But, to each his own. Camilto, I think I've been your only suspect this entire time, did i rape your sister or something in a past life? :-) good hunting town, hopefully the voting clarifies some stuff, but i don't see that shedding any light for a few more days. It was a rough day of lynches but if we stick to the plan I think we'll get back on track. Here's hoping the Mafia miss the blues this night cycle <3. Time for bed Posted in night7/main_page.178 On April 01 2008 03:09 suresh0t wrote:cooperate or get lynched...sweet. I'll take that bet...how indepth does it have to be. Is it like just a list or a list and reasoning? And where do I post it or PM it? Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 05:01 suresh0t wrote:Lynch me so I don't don't have to respond to the this thread anymore! Green townie = boring Green Townie being suspected of Red = funny But hey I can't blame anyone, I don't know how the system works though. Is every mafia related only to one "name" or are the clues spread out and the same person could have clues related to multiple mafia "names". Because it seems that I'm being connected to multiple attackers...which is cool, but if it goes only by being connected to one mafia "name" then it doesn't make sense. The nail clue works for me, go with it lynch me but when I come up green don't be bitchin to me ;-). I got bored after my first write up on day 1 and the strats that were going around to the fun out of the game. Now with these DTs dead (which blows but is going to make the game more interesting for townies) the fun is about to begin. If you want to use our now so important lynches or vigi kills on the nail clue go for it. It's a much stronger clue against me than the other ridiculous ones before. (considering day 3 I was linked to the guy who deals with all the electric stuff because I was around tools) Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 00:57 suresh0t wrote:You both are productive members of this town, therefore neither of you could possibly mafia ... oh the sarcasm burns >_< Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 12:43 suresh0t wrote:Ok just so I know what I'm dealing with...someone list the clues and the mafia name that I'm supposed to be. I want to see what you few people who have me as a suspect are looking at. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:05 suresh0t wrote:No more detectives and a Jack on the fritz . I'm a little perplexed by the whole numbers thing and L as well. I can see how it would be a major clue if the facts lined up, but we can't just add numbers and leave numbers out when we feel like it. I'm defending someone who is a suspect for the same clue as me...hmm I'm bad at this mafia strategy thing apparently. But I see this as a stretch just the same as it being a clue against me as a stretch. If is mafia then I guess I will deserve a big "I Told You" from you guys. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 06:11 suresh0t wrote:PS. I think anyone who votes should put their reasoning included with their vote or in this thread. No more I'm voting for ( "" ) because he upset me. I want to see real reasoning and concrete reasoning at that. You would think by now we would have learned not to go lynching people on loose clues that may not even add up. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 10:48 suresh0t wrote:I don't come out of nowhere to defend myself. I've posted my thoughts and blogged about clues etc. I followed Aces voting request then I ended up abstaining from the last vote because I thought Ace was going to notify me who to vote for to stick with the plan. I was offline a bit and came back and there were still no requests from Ace telling me who to vote for. So I'm not trying to lie low. I've got a whole notepad full of thoughts and clues that I'm keeping track of and when I find an 80% + guilty in my mind I will share. Thus far clues have been spread out and it's hard to narrow down to a suspect, and without DT help and Ace helping all we can do is sit back and wait for enough clues to line up on one person. Why start putting suspects out in the open and setting yourself up to be killed if you are on the right track or being wrong and possibly getting a townie lynched. I can sit back and think and vote and make some comments and thoughts on peoples opinions of clues while I have my own detective work going, then when I have a really good candidate, I could PM Ace and tell him and let him relay it to the town. If I die now because of this I will not be happy, but I'd rather the mafia kill me than be lynched by my own fucking townies! If you want to lynch me for, in my opinion, to blatant a clue in the whole being a Sure Shot, you can't lynch me for the nails. They are connected to different mafia. Sure Shot = The Wolf Nails = Cottonmouth You could connect the apologizing to my sig. That goes with the Wolf as well. So as far as The Wolf goes you have a - Efficient killer - Apologetic (either really sorry for turning on his brethren or a fake apology like you said) Or you could go with the nail route and lynch me as Cottonmouth because he used nails to kill someone. Even though I don't fit with anything else that goes with him. I'm not calling anyone stupid or retarded for their clue interpretations, just putting my two cents in. We need all the townies we can get alive, and we really need to lynch 2 mafia to catch up from the blunder of losing all our DTs. Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:06 suresh0t wrote: So let me summarize on top of your summarization? ;-) 1) Doesn't miss Seems a bit blatant but ok 2) The Sig Similar but not VERY SIMILAR. In my opinion Wolf is sincerely apologizing for betraying his brethren, not being sarcastic and apologizing for not believing in God haha. 3) Nails go to Cottonmouth. Yes Wolf used a nail to kill, but he didn't bring them into the scenario, he just used what was available. I would even go so far as to call Wolf resourceful more than a sure shot. He uses things that are around him when he kills, and he is very efficient. 4) Yes I'm on the Mandalor list. So yes I am a 25% chance to be mafia or whatever. So is everyone else on that list. 5) If you notice I'm a light poster in general. It's not like I went from 200 posts a day to 5 posts. I only come out and say anything when I am bored or find something interesting, or if I need to at least attempt to clear my name, which is apparently damning in and of itself. I don't know what you expect when you start talking about lynching someone, but I think speaking up and saying something is a trait of both a townie and a mafia. Like I said I was trying to stick with Ace's voting thing. I followed it on day 3 and then I abstained and waited for Ace to clarify what he wanted to do, and then just didn't vote because well, it was clear who was getting lynched. Sorry for being lazy. I know I already posted something about this but I wanted to reiterate and make it more compact in case you all didn't feel like reading my other post. SO I'LL REITERATE MY THOUGHTS ON WOLF AND HIS TRAITS - Efficient - Resourceful - Loyal to the majority (he is sorry for betraying but stays the course with the other mafia) Posted in night7/main_page.206 On April 11 2008 11:10 suresh0t wrote: He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. If you look there were five of them on the ground, in my opinion placed there to get Empy to investigate them. As he bent down Cottonmouth stabbed him with a nail, then stabbed 6 more in him. This means Cottonmouth was carrying them. He didn't just pick them up off the ground. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:21 suresh0t wrote:qrs and pink I want to hear your thoughts since you still have me as your number 1 suspect. you have seemingly ignored my posts...clever ;-). Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:27 suresh0t wrote:i said there is a connection between the whole him being very accurate and my name suresh0t, that's pretty much all you got. You didn't respond to my take on the nails at all, you are just avoiding. If you want to lynch me on one connection then it's your loss I guess. Posted in night7/main_page.208 On April 11 2008 13:31 suresh0t wrote:fuck it going to play dota and ignoring the rest of this shit, have fun lynching townies ^_^ Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 14 2008 23:32 suresh0t wrote: This doesn't make me innocent but if BlindAlbino is mafia then he was being a dick if I was mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 00:10 suresh0t wrote:Guess he just likes to bandwagon. Posted in night7/main_page.225 On April 15 2008 06:52 suresh0t wrote:My prediction...MidnightGladius comes up GREEN Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:26 suresh0t wrote:I'm just making predictions! I'm like the Dick Vitale of Mafia bitches! Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:31 suresh0t wrote:I also missed why it's either MTF or Gladius...does that mean if Gladius is green we have to lynch MTF? Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 07:35 suresh0t wrote:oh I just thought it was already stated and didn't want to go find it due to me being lazy Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 13:22 suresh0t wrote:WHEN IS DAY! THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 03:37 suresh0t wrote: I don't owe you one if you die, I already said I think you'll come up green if you do die . Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 04:40 suresh0t wrote:Would be a good strat to make the town think you are useful and good at clue interpretations to throw them off any trail. I think the saboteur should be gaining the towns trust. Even if you lay low your going to be found out by clues and power of deduction. If you manage to gain the towns trust sometimes they will overlook clues pointing at you etc etc. I'm not saying this is what MTF is doing, I'm just saying it is a possibility. But I must say some of the clues brought up are good, and if he is mafia then he is either hanging other mafia out to dry, which would be interesting, or throwing us off the scent. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 04:43 suresh0t wrote:Pshh I want some daylight to shed some light on how we are shaping up! As opposed to taking wild theories like mine above for entertainment purposes O_o Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:49 suresh0t wrote: at least blind was red, not that it was really debated. so what does this mean for MTF since Gladius is green? Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:11 suresh0t wrote:Yeah we should probably make sure we are relatively sure L is mafia and not actually another medic. We (the town) don't want to be responsible for 3 medic deaths, we're basically doing the Mafias job for them. That being said, I still trust the judgment of Ace and seeing as we don't have any other way to check L out, I will let him decide on what to do, since he is the only one holding the cards for the town. Posted in night7/main_page.235 On April 17 2008 05:12 suresh0t wrote: Just curious how this would effect anything? Posted in night7/main_page.235 Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:32 suresh0t wrote:seems like all the talkers have been slaughtered by le mafia O_o Posted in night7/main_page.258 On April 27 2008 16:26 suresh0t wrote:in costa rica right now, won't message much so please lynch me so i don't have to waste vacation time looking at this Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 18:51 suresh0t wrote:I Vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 02:59 suresh0t wrote:I will abstain from voting, haven't had time to process all the clues for day 2 and am busy til late tomorrow so hopefully I will still have time by then to vote. However it wouldn't be fair to anyone if I voted for them without actually reading through everything. I noticed I have 2 votes so I guess there must be something interesting to read that points to me...I don't think I've had time to piss anyone off yet Posted in night7/vote2_page.006 On March 24 2008 06:51 suresh0t wrote:I change my abstain to a vote for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 14:50 suresh0t wrote:I vote wurm...I think he was suspect #1 Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 06:18 suresh0t wrote:abstain for the time being. Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 11 2008 15:12 suresh0t wrote:Vote 1 - Siefu Vote 2 - Evilmonkey Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 00:36 suresh0t wrote:First Vote: L Second Vote: Ulszz + Show Spoiler [ulszz] + 19. ulszz Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 ulszz wrote:sweet Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:38 ulszz wrote:so many people xD this will be epic Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 09:06 ulszz wrote:Can't wait, hopefully I get a role this time :D! Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 00:09 ulszz wrote:just gotta wait... Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 13:23 ulszz wrote:I vote Showtime! + Show Spoiler [unsoundlogic] + 94. unsoundlogic Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:40 unsoundlogic wrote:How do we really know that empyrean is a detective if he is voted mayor? If he is mafia, he can easily dodge background checks by detectives. I'm assuming that you can't just ask (as a detective) if the elected mayor is mafia, because then wtf did the townies do last time... If empyrean is mafia and he is elected, he can fake "detective findings" because he knows the exact number of mafia that did X, seeing as he is mafia. This would through detectives off, and the only way to make sure that empyrean would be helping us is to use 1 detective solely to double-check empyrean everytime he makes a "detective findings" post. This ultimately results in a tied up detective (though it would still be nice to have public findings), or a mafia that can double lynch. Not good. Also, I'm against lynching on the first day after mayoral elections. We just don't know enough stuff to lynch anyone, and it doesn't hurt us at this point because the killing power doesn't decrease. BTW, ignore my handle -_-;;;; Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 11:53 unsoundlogic wrote: Oh....well I'm voting for him anyways because I figured the benefits were better than the costs. ^^;;; Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:28 unsoundlogic wrote:If you think about it from the mafia POV, they tie up the saboteur on empyrean every time. With 3 other detectives, you can still find out who voted for the major lynch candidates (2-3), and maybe even have room to target specific people. That, and vigilantes and other powerful townies are free to rape. Empyrean can be verified once as mafia or not, and he can give public information gathered by other dts and PMed to him, without revealing the identities of the other dts. If he is mayor or pardoner, he is protected and can still post what other dts send him. He'd become kind of a public announcer person that can give data that townies normally wouldnt get w/o a dt. As long as empyrean gets a protected role and is dt, then we get a huge advantage. Edit:I would like to reiterate my opinion that we/mayor should NOT lynch anyone once mayor is elected, since the clues we get at the start are too weak, and we are not hurting mafia killing power any. Once the night is over, then we should have enough info to get some mafia hung. Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:57 unsoundlogic wrote:The reason mafia would pose as vets is because the vets extra lives ability hurts the mafia a lot. The easiest way to get rid of veterans is to get them lynched, which makes the lives ability useless. What better way to do so than pose as a veteran and cause confusion? Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:04 unsoundlogic wrote: It makes sense to me O: EDIT: I really need a name change T_T Posted in night7/main_page.257 On April 27 2008 01:00 unsoundlogic wrote:WHOOOO My good name is cleared! :DD There needs to be more town activity though, that vote count was kinda low. Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:42 unsoundlogic wrote:Despite my post in the main thread, I vote for empyrean because guaranteed public info on mafia is sexy :D. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:39 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for Mandalor to be lynched. ACE FIGHTING Posted in night7/vote3_page.006 On March 29 2008 08:59 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for wurm, abstain for second vote. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 08:37 unsoundlogic wrote:I vote for Trancestorm Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 10:00 unsoundlogic wrote:Not gonna bandwagon on this one! ... I vote for L and ulszz. + Show Spoiler [useLess] + 115. useLess Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:51 useLess wrote:Holy shit, thats a lot of people. Im down Posted in night7/main_page.021 On March 18 2008 17:16 useLess wrote:Goddamn, there should be a new thread for each day. Posted in night7/main_page.073 On March 20 2008 17:47 useLess wrote:XD incontrol died already Posted in night7/main_page.089 On March 22 2008 06:38 useLess wrote:Unless its big name townies to demoralize us! Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 06:25 useLess wrote:Seriously, the other Mad Hatter and a Jack? :| Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:55 useLess wrote:Huh, so a mafia member was actually lynched this early Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:03 useLess wrote:Goddamn - Detective, Paramedic, and a bodyguard? Thats so much. Then I realize theres liek 30 blues out of 110 townies. But still. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:44 useLess wrote:Wow, TWO Detectives. Whatre the odds... Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:03 useLess wrote:Maybe the mafia killed zero and all the deaths were from our paranoia. Twilight Zone, anyone? Posted in night7/main_page.182 On April 03 2008 16:12 useLess wrote:Oh, Queasy was at the bottom; I didnt know we got one. Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 05 2008 09:09 useLess wrote: I was gone that weekend, and by the time I got back, the votes had been tallied already. Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:48 useLess wrote: @ Day 3 votes : @ TLA 5 @ iccup TSL-useLess Registered: 01 Apr 2008 Im following the posts over at "List of important mafia posts" since its quicker for me, but that hasnt been updated in a week. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:55 useLess wrote:Seriously, getting all 4 detectives in 5 days cant be luck or chance. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 05:59 useLess wrote: whoops, corrected. medic was in my head while i was reading about the suicide bomber's role Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 06:55 useLess wrote:Going with Plexa's analysis on this one. Posted in night7/main_page.223 Posted in night7/main_page.239 On April 17 2008 12:36 useLess wrote:yikes, 3 blues out of 5 townies. Posted in night7/main_page.242 On April 18 2008 14:52 useLess wrote: no, the voting is still open. what Chuiu posted was just a running tally. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:10 useLess wrote:hachacha, does this mean we're going for L next? Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 02:00 useLess wrote:I vote for Ace for Mayor Ive only had a few minutes atm to peruse the main topic, but Ace seems like he knows what hes doing to an extent. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 04:23 useLess wrote:I vote for Ghar Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:31 useLess wrote:What is Day 3.5? Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 06:50 useLess wrote:I abstain for now. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 06:56 useLess wrote:I vote for EvilMonkey (first vote) I vote for Seifu (second vote) Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 06:26 useLess wrote:I vote for Crazie-Penguin + Show Spoiler [wurm] + 32. Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 21:44 wurm wrote:Alright. This should be awesome. Let's get it on! Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:14 wurm wrote:omg, 10 pages of bickering. I quit halfway through. Thank god for Falcynn's blog. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:24 wurm wrote:Either way, Empyrean just wasted one Detective (the one to check him out obviously). Sonuvbob, I played in the first game and i thought it was hilarious that FakeSteve was elected mayor. You promising to be less of a douche than FakeSteve had me sold. Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 17:01 wurm wrote: or Showtime. I don't agree with the "LET'S LYNCH THE LURKERS" movement. I want to be active (i.e. post more) but I don't agree with a lot of the discussion that happens. If I voice my opinion, it would be more like "OMG he disagrees, MAFIA!". since the majority of you are already set on your plans. Plus, the thread moves way too fast because of all the bickering and trolling. oh and lol at lynching inc. Posted in night7/main_page.087 On March 22 2008 00:41 wurm wrote: lol. OP post is there for a reason. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:16 wurm wrote: Holy shit, didn't know God was playing. Who's side is he on? Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:39 wurm wrote:lol. hey hey hey.. pretty soon i won't be a drone. Hopefully.. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 15:20 wurm wrote: uh.. Why would the mob hit be based on clues for the townies? I do agree though, with the snakes=geographical locations. it somehow makes sense. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:26 wurm wrote:so... yeah. We're voting somebody inactive again. and we have a good record for lynching inactive people (1 blue, no red). Posted in night7/main_page.122 On March 24 2008 17:48 wurm wrote:Oh wow..1/1 lynching. Seems I underestimated Ace. OR maybe Ace is mafia and his first lynch should be mafia in order to gain the town's trust? OR I underestimated Ace. Nice one. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:19 wurm wrote:lol im a suspect. First point: I abstained from voting because, at the beginning, i didn't really like the way you handled things. Now that Mandalor was proven to be Mafia, i'm beginning to like you as Mayor. Second point: I, along with a few others, don't like your system of finding Mafia. Yes, it does work, but it's not my cup of tea. Last game was quite addicting considering townies lost, but it was still addicting. Besides, you already have a mob of followers so my one vote obviously won't make a difference seeing as Day voting was 70+ for Mandalor and only 7 for Ghar. So yeah, I kinda like doing my own thing. Funny how doing this = mafioso. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:31 wurm wrote: So... hard... to... choose. Seriously though, just because i didn't pm a role to Ace isn't exactly concrete evidence. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:41 wurm wrote:Damn, guess i deleted my other sentence in that 2nd paragraph. Basically, it's just wait for the detectives and Ace find out who's mafia and let us townies throw all our votes at that one guy! Really takes away from the game, especially for a townie. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:47 wurm wrote: oh yeah, and before somebody calls me out for not defending myself: Ace gave out the word. The legion will vote. and i don't feel like explaining my actions either. Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 17:49 wurm wrote: Then you just lost a medic. a medic who went 1/1 on the first night. Seems like I am good at analyzing who the mafia will hit, huh? Before that vigilante will lynch me, i'm pretty sure i can make it 2/2 since i already sent in my save to Chuiu. but who knows? Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 17:53 wurm wrote:Alrighty then. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 17:59 wurm wrote:Sure ,after you and I revealed that i was medic, there's a big possibility that I will be lynched. Seeing as how the other "medic" who saved Falcynn claims to be just that, the mafia is sure now that I am the other medic who saved him. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:03 wurm wrote:Alrighty then. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:18 wurm wrote: im basically done for. if town doesn't do it, mafia will. so, i really don't see the point. but just for kicks, i'll do it.... eventually. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:20 wurm wrote: lol. blackmail. well, hey! im not #1 anymore. haha.. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 18:28 wurm wrote: Chuiu came up with this way before I started posting actively(which is now), so i don't really think that clue points to me. I kinda see it pointing to L, in a "too obvious - it can never be him" kind of way. but what do I know? I would be doing that but i didn't want to be in the mafia spotlight, since i kinda like saving people. Posted in night7/main_page.136 On March 25 2008 20:37 wurm wrote: Actually it was one other "medic". Seeing as I was the one who lurked, naturally, I was suspected. So by logic, if there were 2 medics, and only one hit against X, and i have basically proved my point and have people on my side, why not investigate the other "medic". It's kinda funny that I was the one suspected. Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 25 2008 23:50 wurm wrote:Showtime!, at least get it right, boy. It's FILIPINO, not PILIPINO. Jesus. Funny how you got the PM that said I was innocent and not me. Posted in night7/main_page.137 Posted in night7/main_page.137 On March 26 2008 00:00 wurm wrote:How long do we got 'til Day? Posted in night7/main_page.138 On March 26 2008 00:28 wurm wrote: Sweet, 00:00. 33 minutes til midnight over here. I'm going to get some sleep since Day post will be in 12 hours or so. Have fun deciding whether i'm still innocent or not. Posted in night7/main_page.146 On March 26 2008 21:33 wurm wrote: I can't wait. edit: oh yeah, in before "OMG WTF MAFIA!" posts. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:14 wurm wrote:lol. i knew i would live. Mafia is too smart to lynch me, since basically everybody knows im a blue, but still a suspect. Let the town do the lynching for the mafia. Anyways im really suspecting Chezinu now. He's been trying to pin something down on me since Day 1, and fortunately he got "something" to link me to in the day post. Day 1 Chezinu pm'd me something about forming a "Townie Group" but it seems like I was the only one he contacted, besides Alventenie I believe. If anybody here got a pm from Chezinu regarding forming a "Townie Group" i'd love to hear about it, since I believe that he is just trying to pin me in as a member of the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:23 wurm wrote: omfg, this is the clue that Chezinu and Showtime! linked me to? HAHAHAHAHA.. woo.. i needed a good laugh. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:37 wurm wrote: I think it goes something like, 7 medics reported in, but i didn't since i refused to. So yeah. I was suspected. Also, does anybody have any clues on the "Eddie" character? Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 16:47 wurm wrote: Yeah, i know. But it seems like you guys are getting desperate to link me to something im not a part of.. Posted in night7/main_page.155 On March 27 2008 17:04 wurm wrote: oh you've got to be kidding me. Why in the blue hells would i ask your role? I was perfectly happy staying in the background protecting people I believed would be hit, and you go out spreading lies like that? Please I DARE YOU TO POST THE PM WHERE I "SUPPOSEDLY" ASKED YOUR ROLE. oh yeah, about how many minutes in paint will it take for you to change all my pm's to "Hi, about your role in the game?" EDIT: It's a good thing i don't delete sent messages, since I have only sent you 3 pm's. None of which has me asking what role you have. Posted in night7/main_page.155 Posted in night7/main_page.156 Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:43 wurm wrote:lol. im dead come day. Here comes the sun.. Posted in night7/main_page.157 On March 28 2008 00:56 wurm wrote:I don't see how i'm still a suspect. Mafia didn't target me when you revealed the medic problem to keep their own "medic" in the ranks. and I still don't see how I am the "fake" medic, is it all because I refused to be part of the plan? The "fake" medic can easily say "Hey, I protected this guy." The "guy" being a fellow mafia then those 2 pm'ing the "save" to you. but then again, what do I know? me being the fake medic and all. meh, none of you have to answer that. I believe Chuiu said the update would come today(or tomorrow), so i'm not going to be surprised to find my name crossed off the OP list when i wake up tomorrow. G'luck townies. Posted in night7/main_page.161 On March 28 2008 10:22 wurm wrote: From the voting topic. You're going to wait a very long time. Posted in night7/main_page.161 Posted in night7/main_page.161 Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:50 wurm wrote:lol Whine much? Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 11:58 wurm wrote:To tell the truth I don't really care at all what the hell you guys are doing. I'm slated to die so I can just do whatever I want. and remember, it's just a game. No need to taking to insults and the such. You know who you are. You guys take it so damn personally. it's amusing to say the least. Posted in night7/main_page.162 On March 28 2008 12:04 wurm wrote:hahaha.. now you guys really know there is a fake medic in your ranks. hahahaha... no, no, just remember. i'm the 7th medic. 7 medics reported. im assuming the "fake" medic was given access to the chatroom. "fake" medic tells fellow mafioso, boom, infiltrated. I don't see how this can be cause for stopping the game. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:15 wurm wrote: I never asked nor did i want to know the channel. neither did i know that a channel existed. but you see, he did not give EVERY medic access. Check up on those you've given access to. If you have no other proof besides their "word", then i suspect mafioso. but if this isn't the case. whatever, let Chuiu decide. EDIT: Chezinu, your pm's are getting annoying. Please stop. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:22 wurm wrote:it would be funny if the game got scrapped just because a mafioso successfully infiltrated the town ranks, posing as a blue. i'm about to go to class, guess i'll just catch up on the drama later. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 17:41 wurm wrote:lol. YEAH! game continues. Lay down the law Chuiu. well, my vote is down for Showtime. Anybody else wanna follow suit? Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 20:36 wurm wrote: I was way ahead of you. I mean sure first hit was mafia, now double lynch will hit a maximum of 1 mafioso, seeing as how i'm innocent and all. Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 21:23 wurm wrote:What was I supposed to be fazed about again? Posted in night7/main_page.167 On March 28 2008 22:18 wurm wrote: careful, comments like that can get you lynched. i should know.. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 20:30 wurm wrote:I vote for Sonuvbob Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:19 wurm wrote:I abstain from voting Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 16:30 wurm wrote:I abstain... for now. Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 11:52 wurm wrote:First vote Ghar Second vote Showtime! + Show Spoiler [xDark.Carnivalx] + 108. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:wow long list of players. well reading it was entertaining so i think ill try my hand in playing, so sign me up please Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I'd like to point out that most likely the people who run for mayor in the first few hours after the day post may have a smaller chance of being mafia because if the mafia were to want one of theirs as mayor(or pardoner?) they'd take the time to get in contact with one another and figure out whom they want to run, and that would take a bit of time, or at least i think it would. that's just what i think may be the case IF mafia even want to run for mayor and assuming they work collectively to do that. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 17:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: Also... "All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time" is Ghars quote; dapperdan was surrounded, or at least seemed to be, as he tried to make his escape. And of course, taipan snake is from australia. i haven't found any direct link of the word ghar and it's various meanings to any of that though, but anything that raises suspicous means it's probably best to stray away from that person as mayor. mafia or not, caution will weed out the incompetent mayors as well as the mafia. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i voted for araav ive looked through every profile, not extensively but enough to analyze them somewhat and put somethings in perspective for myself regarding who fits where. araav hasn't, in what i've looked at and read, shown reason to be suspected and has so far shown enough intiative and work to be a good mayor -- or at least one who won't fuck us over. also listing the info in one post is helpful for the town for quick references instead of going through every profile(as i did><, and i don't think any mafia would put effort into really helping out the town, even if their running for mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:28 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: my vote for him was after having gone through all the profiles etc.(as i stated previously), and going through the candidates for mayor that are running so far, i was simply giving my reason for voting for him, not helping campaign for him. Posted in night7/main_page.022 On March 18 2008 18:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: the problem with that is it was rather inefficient to send pms like that to everyone, and it wasn't a personal request; the time it took to send out the same pm to everyone seems to be the main reason people are even considering to vote for him, and that is a rather silly way to vote for the mayor. it would have been much simpler had he just announced his running for mayor in the thread, which points to him not being the best person for mayor. it's not only about who might be mafia, it's about who is best for the job. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 18:53 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:it will be interesting to see who will run for mayor later in the day when more people come online and post. my vote for araav is not concrete set in stone, as i am still looking for better candidates to vote for given the proper justification and reasoning, but as of now he is the best in my opinion. Ghar, although he has given good ideas and stratedgies, still has my hackles raised in suspicion over some of the clues pointing at him. i'm not saying he IS mafia, but i would rather be cautious and not vote for him then vote for him and have everything go to hell. edit to add in after reading your new post ace: i don't know if people are seriously voting based on his knowledge of c++ or whatever, but i know part of my voting for him is his intiative to list all of it in one easy to find post; it makes looking for quotes and things to relate to clues easier, and that benefits the town. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:17 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:have you looked through all the profiles? i have. it takes forever, there's over 100 people's profiles to look at, so having a siglist makes it much simpler and faster then clicking on every link. it's not sufficient reason to be made mayor, but it does benefit the town for those of us who take the clues and run through the list and try to make connections, and he took the intiative to do that which most mafia i don't think would. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 19:43 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i can't help but think that wasn't the best idea on your part too say you are a detective. either you aren't and are just a towny trying to get mayor by using a important role as leverage, or you are a mafia member trying to get votes for the same reason. if you really are a detective though, then you just put yourself into a risky situation as the mafia now have a target to go for. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:02 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:it would be very helpful having a detective mayor -- or pardoner. i think more votes need to be cast before we can discern really where to go with what empyrean revealed. it's almost going to force the town to vote for him on the chance he really is a detective, as losing a detective so early would be a big hurt on us. im thinking it may be better for him to be pardoner just because he made a bit of a rash decision to reveal his role, and may not be best suitted as a mayor, not that a pardoner is a unimportant role, but it would be better to have the best possible candidate we can vote on for mayor then someone forcing our hand because he revealed his role. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections... For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue. "He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead." - not much to go on but it semi-relates to suresh0t's name as sure shot may refer to being of good aim and 'back full of lead' relates to a gun, so gun and shooting = sureshot. not much... but something to take note of. Mr. Blonde - "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - maybe connection to G.s)Naruto, which naruto is an anime character who has blondehair(i think, unfornatunly i cant remember exactly?lol), and is a ninja, which ninja's are known to be stealthy which fits into 'coming out of nowhere' meaning wasn't expected. not much else really just that connection. also Ninja4ever may have some connection, but his quote iirc doesn't really fit much. Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things. Enigma - "An enigma is a puzzle, something mysterious or inexplicable, or a riddle or difficult problem." Siefu's quote is 'He walks among us, but he is not one of us' which may connect to someone mysterious, and the sentence sounds something of a riddle. Mr. Pink - "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" - BlindAblino may relate to this because blind people are cautious; but there isn't much else to go on though, perhaps albino can be connected with pink. Anyway that's what i have for now, i have other theories and connections but their more minor then these and will require further analysis before i can even consider making more then a small note on them. Again i'm not saying any of these people are mafia, i'm just pointing out what i found relating clues to them and perhaps other people will make similar connections. Posted in night7/main_page.023 On March 18 2008 20:50 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 20:19 Caller wrote: "The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head." The Taipan Snake is from Australia. Who here is an Australian? As for the Wolf, it could be anything, but could it perhaps be a reference to a fairy tale, like Red Riding Hood or Peter and the Wolf? "Solemn but seeing a promising future" No idea what this means. "Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner" I'd presume it's somebody that's a leader at TL. "Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive" Maybe Ieatkids? No idea, but I'd presume it involves something with either blood or dogs. "Mr. Blue got in the last word" LastRomantic maybe? Or is that a bit obvious? The King Brown Snake, fyi, is the 2nd deadliest snake after the Taipan in Australia. Maybe we have 2 Australian Mafiaso? I'm thinking that perhaps the taipan snake is meant to throw us off and think it is in connection to australia, where it may be a connection to china? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai-Pan The King Brown Snake though probably still relates to australia is my guess. BloodyC0bbler may be connected with "Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive" but that's a bit too simple of a connection... and his quote doesn't really fit in with it i think, 'Sweet Water and Light Laughter' Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:12 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I'm not saying you are mafia, i've just gone through the clues and profiles and ive made certain connections, and you happen to have been one of those connections. you've had good ideas for the town which gives you credit, im just not happy with the idea of voting for someone that i've found clues relating too. it's to early in the game to say 'so and so is mafia' but its best to take into account certain connections to base voting off of. If anything empryean will most likely get quite a few of the votes now because him saying he's detective, the fear of losing a detective may cause people to vote for him. araav is a good candidate, maybe not the best, but as of now he seems to be what the town needs; and that may change as well. Your ideas though will defintly provide the town with direction when we do elect a mayor. sorry for posting so much so early in the game, i have sleeping problems so im usually up until mid-morning with nothing to do. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:19 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i think that's not the best of ideas, it's better to openly discuss in the thread so everyone can read ideas and get different perspectives on situations. keeping things hidden and in private leads too less organization which is what the last town lacked... Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: actually i noted your name while going through the list of profiles and clues, but basing suspicion off of just having 'pink' in your name isn't much to go on... here's some of the clues/connections i came up with earlier in the thread: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 20:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I think i'll post up some of my suspicions/connections... For 'The Wolf' - "The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" - part of CTStalker's quote in his profile is "I bear no grudge against you" which relates to the wolf apologizing etc. also 'the wolf' meaning a wolf, which a wolf stalks it's prey and chases them down relatively fast, which relates to 'Stalker' in ctstalkers username. So far that's the best connection i've made with that clue. "He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead." - not much to go on but it semi-relates to suresh0t's name as sure shot may refer to being of good aim and 'back full of lead' relates to a gun, so gun and shooting = sureshot. not much... but something to take note of. Mr. Blonde - "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - maybe connection to G.s)Naruto, which naruto is an anime character who has blondehair(i think, unfornatunly i cant remember exactly?lol), and is a ninja, which ninja's are known to be stealthy which fits into 'coming out of nowhere' meaning wasn't expected. not much else really just that connection. also Ninja4ever may have some connection, but his quote iirc doesn't really fit much. Next, Eddie, eddie is portrayed as the mafia leader. which i agree with caller could mean someone in teamliquid who has a high position or is seen as a leader, but zeks quote is "With great power comes great responsibility." Which may relate to having a position of power, which running the mafia would be. Again just a connection, i'm not saying anyone is mafia just connection clues to things. Enigma - "An enigma is a puzzle, something mysterious or inexplicable, or a riddle or difficult problem." Siefu's quote is 'He walks among us, but he is not one of us' which may connect to someone mysterious, and the sentence sounds something of a riddle. Mr. Pink - "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" - BlindAblino may relate to this because blind people are cautious; but there isn't much else to go on though, perhaps albino can be connected with pink. Anyway that's what i have for now, i have other theories and connections but their more minor then these and will require further analysis before i can even consider making more then a small note on them. Again i'm not saying any of these people are mafia, i'm just pointing out what i found relating clues to them and perhaps other people will make similar connections. Posted in night7/main_page.031 On March 19 2008 05:26 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i think everyone that's voted for empyrean needs to reconsider that vote. there is a chance of him being a detective, but there is also a chance he's just a towny and a chance of being mafia. we can't know for sure, and if anything his move to reveal himself is not a smart move, and why would we want our mayor to be someone who will make rash decisions? yes if he turns out to be a detective he'll be targetted, but it will have been his fault for revealing himself publicly. So far Ace and Ghar have been really productive with creating plans for the town to get organized -- which we need. I'm thinking of changing my vote for Ace, because i don't think it's the best decision to vote for Ghar if there is any hint of a clue pointing at him, Regardless of how small that clue is, or how little it may be, it's better to aim at a mayor whose both productive and has no one suspecting them, which in this case, is Ace Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 05:31 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: It's Albino, i'm just stupid and made a typo error. Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I think that's a bit vague to go off of for useless, but again it's something to note for future reference. For that quote; "Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black" i just briefly connected that to LostYourSkills, only because lost your skills may mean losing you're balance -> knocking over people on your side(which is what sidewinder did). again, vague clue, but just something to file away for later. omfghi2u2 is a bit of a stretch too, as would be saying G.s)Naruto's quote of 'hi' (i forgot exactly what it is), since that seems it may be a bit too obvious. agian i'd like to note i'm not saying anyone is mafia, im just making connections for later reference and something for the town to discuss on, and eventually for detectives to make collective decisions about on regarding what questions to ask. Posted in night7/main_page.033 On March 19 2008 07:01 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:we don't want a mafia mayor, because if you do anything that points to being mafia we'll have to lynch you, and lose the benefits of having a mayor. it was not the best idea to say you're detective, as people mentioned, your word alone isn't sufficient enough for us to believe you, and in revealing your role makes you seem a bit selfish in terms of wanting to be assured protection, which isn't a good quality for the mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.034 On March 19 2008 07:11 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:i think it may be best if empyrean is made pardoner rather than mayor. that way if he IS mafia, then we don't lose the mayor role, though the pardoner is important i'd rather lose that role than the mayor. and then there's the protection of being pardoner as a DT too, which if he is a detective and not mafia the town will benefit. the mayor role should go to someone like Ace whose capable of being productive to the town and provides plans or the town to get organized, and the added bonus of having a detective pardoner to turn too as well. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:30 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Empyrean: you must know that in trying to force the town to vote for you as mayor already discredits both you're word and the role you chose to reveal. ANYONE can come out and say, "Hey im so&so role and i you should vote for me" and it doesn't mean they are the best candidate, if anything they are low on the totem pole because of being so rash about revealing a role, or lying about it. I cannot agree with anyone thinking you would be best as mayor, regardless if you are detective or not. Yes, a detective mayor can be good for the town, but to abuse that role and reveal it in attempt to secure protection is a selfish act and is more hurtful to the town. I urge everyone who has voted for Empyrean to re-think that vote, go through the thread where Empyrean first stated his role(check Falycnns blog for the link) and re-evaluate why it is Empyrean wants to be mayor. i'd like to note i changed my vote to Ace, as i think he has solid plans and a good head on his shoulders to help organize the town and lead us astray from disaster like the other game. | ||
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108. Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: It is useless to blatantly point fingers at people and making accusations, but i don't think it is hurtful to provoke discussion and reference points for later to make connections to people via the clues we have at hand. I know for me, i am not saying anyone is mafia, im analyzing the few clues we have as a place to start at for town discussion and a reference point for later posts and clues. Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:57 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 19:33 Empyrean wrote: I just woke up! I'm running for mayor as well. I have previous mafia experience, and have a good idea of how mafia like to conduct things. Furthermore, I'll take everyone's opinion into consideration, as well as analyze everything myself. The most important reason, and this is kind of risky saying it, but I am a detective. If I'm elected mayor, I'll be guaranteed to be safe from mafia attacks so I can publish my detective results daily, giving us a large boost. If you want, I can ask some easy questions confirming people's roles so they can back me up. The possibility of a Detective Mayor is something in the town's favor. Also, if you don't vote for me now, mafia will target me first night and the town'll be down a detective without me even asking anything :[ note in his post for mayor he says he just woke up. now he's saying he had to reveal his role because he was going to sleep. perhaps just a minor mistake but it's a bit contradictory? worth noting perhaps? Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I don't think you are mafia Empyrean; i think it's way too early in the game to say anyone is mafia, but you're actions so far have not shown good judgement which is one of the things a mayor requires. Perhaps the previous game having been an important part of it and doing well you've wanted to try and live up to that in the opposite role and do the town good -- props for that, but that, i think, may have caused you to act a bit rash in this game and make some mistakes, which because of that i think it is best if you are not mayor. So far you've really not made many good points regarding being mayor, aside from declaring your role and defending that declaration and how important you're role is to the town. Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: so far it looks like you might become pardoner.. which gets protection. i just don't want you to be mayor, although the pardoner is important too, having a bad mayor/or mafia/or whatever is worse imo. edit so i don't keep making posts: Ace seems like he'd be a good mayor, and between his plan and Ghars the town will be able to become organized which is a key point for the town to survive Posted in night7/main_page.041 On March 19 2008 09:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: preferably i'd also rather him not have mayor or pardoner, but from the current votes he's less likely to attain mayor thankfully, though thats subject to change as more people vote ;x Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 09:54 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: probably one of those, but in context of the game i don't see how it can be confused with anything else, so seeing someone say DT would of course relate to detective. Posted in night7/main_page.043 On March 19 2008 10:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: read op, he put a link to the day post. (and fyi its on page 18) Posted in night7/main_page.044 On March 19 2008 10:33 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: that would be dumb of the mafia? they'd lose that fake detective member as well as a mafia mayor. but yes i'd assume we'd have to lynch both, or in that case order a double lynch and if the mayor doesn't do it then he's mafia? Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 14:54 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok just got back, semi caught up, mostly just skimmed through the last few pages. I'd like to reiterate what i've said a few times before: I'm not trying to say anyone is mafia, i'm using the clues we have so far to make connections to generate discussion and for future reference. No one should be trying to say 'this person is mafia' based on the minimal amount of clues we have; there is no way we can even remotely be sure about anything about anyone. I do believe that it is necessary to look at the clues and make connections for discussion. Only when we have elected a mayor and are facing our first decision as a town to lynch can we make any for sure speculations, but having pre-mayor discussion of clues will help bring us too a decision based on both clues AND posts, and anything else people bring to the table. I felt i needed to make that bold to make it stand out more. Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:15 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: so far, based on the most recent vote count, i don't think you really stand too much of a chance for mayor. the votes aren't all in but Ace has a pretty big lead Posted in night7/main_page.050 On March 19 2008 17:32 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i agree that you plan seems solid enough to help the town; and i also would like people(Aside from those who voted for ace) to change their votes to Ghar. Ace, im pretty sure, is going to get mayor... so that leaves pardoner for either empyrean, randombum and ghar. it would be best is empyrean was not pardoner, so its between bum and ghar, and ghar at least has provided productive ideas. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 05:39 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok so just woke up, read the latest few pages where i left off of last night. Not too much going on i see, mostly just waiting for final vote count to get things moving. Looks like randombum overtook empyrean, which is good, hopefully Ace stays in the lead though. As far as empyrean is concerned and his role; anything that happens to him, mafia-wise, such as getting killed or one of the new mafia roles targetting him, is all his fault really. He chose to come out and lay a claim for mayor with 'im a detective' attached to it, and doing that so early is asking for trouble. the town will have to wait before detectives can role check him, but at least he probably won't be mayor or pardoner, regardless of him being innocent or not. Posted in night7/main_page.095 On March 22 2008 18:08 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Finished reading day post, going to make a post of things i think may be clues or at least important. + Show Spoiler + Here's a list of lines/details i thought were important and may be clues "the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen" "He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room" "Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock" "They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring" "He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot." "found a smiley in its place" "The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire." "Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device" "another came through the back door" "Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door" "one gruesome gash after another" "He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off." "finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back." "when four men intercepted them" "Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia." "No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself." "a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder." "a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease" "Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help." "crawled past the substance he had slipped" "tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs" "Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat" + Show Spoiler + These are all the mafia codenames listed so far, if i missed any please let me know. Mr. Blonde Mr. Brown Taipan Snake Cottonmouth Snake Charmer Mr. White Mr. Pink Sidewinder Black Mamba Eddie The Wolf Mr. Red Mr. Black King Bown Snake Mr. Blue Joe Enigma I haven't yet tried to interpret the clues but i either will start tonight or tomorrow. Kinda sucks we lost two blue; and it wasn't too smart of yogurt to plant on stalker without talking with anyone about it. We have no reason to suspect anyone that was listed as connetions to Day 1 clues, because their is not enough evidence to say anyone is mafia. Now with Day 2 we may be able to find links since we have more information to cross-reference the old clues and posts/votes to go off of. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:42 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: + Show Spoiler + I put everyone into their respective countries, not in any paticular order though. Yes it took forever Afghanistan: ahrara_ Angola: fanatacist Armenia: araav Australia: SoMuchBetter Fen Energies Camlito LoStYouRSkiLLS Bockit Siefu RowdierBob Ghar Austria: Scorch Belize: Yogurt Bulgaria: str Canada: ShaLLoW[baY] Eti307 Wizard infinity21 JeeJee KF91 GranDim MoRe_mInErAls SoleSteeler HeRoS)Pink fusionsdf BloodyC0bbler Jimtudor Wysp CTStalker zeks Showtime! Kau L Fishball China: Empyrean MidnightGladius Colombia: HotZhot Ecuador: BlindAlbino France: Ninja4ever. Germany: MasterOfChaos Mandalor spoinka G.s)NarutO Hungary: Naib Japan: Evilmonkey. Kenya: AmorVincitOmnia Kiribati: clazziquai Korea(South): SiZ.FaNtAsY Malaysia: dinmsab Ziel Mexico: RtS)Night[Mare Netherlands: Artanis[Xp] BWdero Lenwe New Zealand: Alethios Plexa Norway: Hollander Supah Philippines: wurm Poland: ZBiR Sweden: Hittegods Lysithea KorvspaD jtanJoxxOr Switzerland: fgsvsd Taiwan: Last Romantic KH1031 United Kingdom: Klive5ive United States: Caller Dr.Dragoon CDRdude So no fek ieatkids5 imDerek randombum ulszzgoldenkrnboi Falcynn Alventenie nemY Amber[LighT] Vharox Romance_us NatsuTerran aZnvaLiaNce Kuja900 iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace MTF French_Toast 0cz3c New104 LucasWoJ GeneralStan bumatlarge Chezinu Queasy Pangolin butidigress ~OpZ~ unsoundlogic TranceStorm suresh0t decafchicken DamageControL omfghi2u2 Meta SpiritoftheTuna BuGzlToOnl GrayArea xDark.Carnivalx crazie-penguin {88}iNcontroL DTDominion useLess d.arkive ShadowDrgn rpf Venezuela: Unforgiven_ve No Country Listed: LTT Puosu SonuvBob smurfingchobo qrs AcrossFiveJulys If i forgot anyone or screwed up something just let me know. pretty sure i got everyone and everything correct... hopefully this is useful cuz it took me awhile >< Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 19:44 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I'm going to work on a compliation of everyones post that has died from begining of the game that were relevant(as in not spam). this may take awhile and i might not finish it tonight. Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:47 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok here's a list of OneBlueAugusts, Mynocks, goldenkrnboi and Yogurts posts from Day 1 to Day 2(page 18 to page 91). I'm sorry if I missed some of their posts, feel free to go through all the pages yourself. I was going to edit out the irrelevant posts, but for now im leaving them in until i get around to fixing it. Also, there was no posts by NeaX that I could find. Anyway here is the posts in spoilers(there's alot) + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2008 14:50 OneBlueAugust wrote: Perhaps not, but if there's any useful clues at all in the Day post, I'd think they would be in what the mafia said. The names of the mafia have way too many red herrings in them to be useful at this point, in my opinion. I guess since a huge percentage of the names in the Day post have to do with Quentin Tarantino movies, it would be wise to check up on any references to him in people's names, posts, or signatures... Or even anagrams of Tarantino etc. But I still think the information that can be used by the town will only come out of the quotes. And yes, I do realize that my name could tie me to Mr. Blue. However, as Shallow[Bay] showed, following the "clue" of the reservoir dogs names fingers tons of people, which is why I think it's a red herring. If the names have any meaning at all, it's a deeper on, such as the tie-in to one director or type of movie. On March 21 2008 14:22 OneBlueAugust wrote: Seems like a few decent leads on them, then. On March 21 2008 14:13 OneBlueAugust wrote: Also, did anyone make a comment in this thread, insinuating that if someone got elected mayor that the town would enact something similar to martial law? Cause that person could be the one that this quote: "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law" is pointing to. On March 21 2008 14:50 OneBlueAugust wrote: Perhaps not, but if there's any useful clues at all in the Day post, I'd think they would be in what the mafia said. The names of the mafia have way too many red herrings in them to be useful at this point, in my opinion. I guess since a huge percentage of the names in the Day post have to do with Quentin Tarantino movies, it would be wise to check up on any references to him in people's names, posts, or signatures... Or even anagrams of Tarantino etc. But I still think the information that can be used by the town will only come out of the quotes. And yes, I do realize that my name could tie me to Mr. Blue. However, as Shallow[Bay] showed, following the "clue" of the reservoir dogs names fingers tons of people, which is why I think it's a red herring. If the names have any meaning at all, it's a deeper on, such as the tie-in to one director or type of movie. On March 21 2008 15:17 OneBlueAugust wrote: Just so the mods know, I'm not spamming this thread. I'm just the type of person that always has one more thought after I hit the post button, and I don't think editing in a mafia game should be allowed. Anyway, the reason I think the quotes I mentioned are probably clues is because they stand out from the rest of the storyline. Perhaps I see this dichotomy because I'm a writer, but the dialogue seems very stilted and unnatural, as if it was inserted into the story, instead of being written in along with everything else. If that's the case, then it was probably put in after a general outline of the day post had been fleshed out. The only thing that would be added at that point are the clues, which is why I feel that the dialogue contains the relevant information. This theory is further supported by the fact that some of the dialogue is double-punctuated (IE: a quote ending with an exclamation, followed by an extraneous period). Perhaps Chuiu and Dapperdan just don't pay much attention to their grammar rules, but the other possible explanation for that is that the sentence was inserted in, and they forgot to delete the extra period. On March 21 2008 15:58 OneBlueAugust wrote: Eh, same line of thought and all. I was already spamming, and I figured adding another addition would be too much overkill. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 12:18 Mynock wrote: I never said we should lynch you. The best tactic for town right now is to wait out on you and see how things develop. Lynching you if you're innocent is a set-back for the town, but keeping you if you're mafia is not really a problem. You'd just be like any other mafia, except more suspicious . On March 21 2008 03:19 Mynock wrote: I have to agree. So far, shitstirrers like Shallow and Showtime! contributed nothing but confusion. I really hope they are with mafia, cause whatever side they're on, they only hinder it... Just let's hope they're no special towny roles, would suck to have them wasted like that. On March 20 2008 09:17 Mynock wrote: I think it's very important that all the detectives know for sure that the mayor is legit. Of course saving up the ability to check a person's role is also important, but the start is of utmost importance. Also, once the mayor is elected everybody should be able to reveal their roles to him. Don't forget that if the mafia tried to claim a role to the mayor, and more than the number of the assigned roles claimed it, the mafia would be quite easy to spot, so I doubt they would try that move. In fact, another of the downfalls of Empyrean's self-revealing is as follows: While every detective just uses one of their checks to see if the mayor is legit, Empyrean (the only one who claimed he is a detective, and as such we should try to use him to save a role-check), should use his power to check the pardoner instead. He will probably be muted by the saboteur tho, so then one of the hidden detectives will have to waste another role-check on the pardoner, while Empyrean will eventually either be kept mute or dead as soon as a different target arrives. This would leave us with a mere 3 [edit: oh, plus the 2 from the jack, so it's pretty OK!] role-checks for the rest of the game, but It's still well worth it IMO. On March 19 2008 07:25 Mynock wrote: We're obviously all aware that a detective as mayor would be AWESOME, the problem is just your "coming out" like this, so it forces the town to move radically. (Of course right now the medics really don't have any better targets, just as the detectives, so in the first day I guess it's not a big problem... But still, the Bodyguard Plan sounds good and solid - without too much guessing, too.) On March 20 2008 09:46 Mynock wrote: That's just what I said as well. Altho towards the end of the game I suppose the role-check will become even more important in case there is a case like with Live2Win. That's because, even though the plan of the role-townies revealing themselves all to the mayor would ensure all the roles are accounted for, if one of the roles doesn't have all the members being active enough it might pose such a problem that imposters might show up and infiltrate the system. Besides, there will always be plenty of townies who will draw suspicion to themselves through irrational behaviour (i.e Empyrean ). On March 19 2008 07:17 Mynock wrote: That's your personal view of course, so be it. But if a mayor says that it's the best thing for the town if a mayor is a Suicide Bomber (a MAFIA role) then... Well, I rest my case. On March 19 2008 07:21 Mynock wrote: And Emp, obviously we wouldn't want to lynch you if you're a detective, but as someone already said, pushing your will like that isn't a cool characteristic for a mayor. Besides, you just basically put it like "oh and btw I'm a detective, kinda an advantage, right?". So now it's the best interest of the town to have you: 1) Protected (medics please?) 2) Investigated (detectives please?) Basically now the town has to act and correct the situation because of your own decision. If you're right a DT mayor would of course be swell for town - but if you're not, we have to deal with the situation. On March 20 2008 11:07 Mynock wrote: Exactly. If he was a vanilla townie and thought his position through properly, he would have realized that he can hurt the mafia more by lying about him being a detective. Or, he's a detective after all, and is now just trying to save his hide. Or, he's mafia, in which case the confusion is obvious, but then he just made himself suspicious for no real benefit, and the best move would jut be to hold him suspicious without any direct actions atm. On March 20 2008 10:49 Mynock wrote: Shallow, will you please stop with the incessant harassments? You have done absolutely nothing else the last 60 pages. And yes, we're all aware you're just "having fun". Also, probably the best strategy would be for the medics to decide themselves if they want to protect Empyrean or not, this way the mafia will have to guess whether to use up their suicide bomber (and potentially waste him) or just use up some of their killing power (and still not get the kill). Let them guess. On March 19 2008 07:09 Mynock wrote: Dark Templar? The term DT was used before in this thread several times, always denoting detective. What Dark Templar? I'm beginning to think now that Empyrean, if not mafia, is a towny saboteur who wants to cause misunderstanding just for fun cause he only got a plain towny or something. Either way, I don't know what to make of all of this yet, but you sure drew a hell of a lot of attention to yourself. On March 19 2008 07:13 Mynock wrote: The suicide bombers can't kill a mayor, it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever if they could. [edit: and suggesting all the bodyguards would die before is really far fetched] So either you haven't read the rules at all (don't know the roles, don't know the abilities), or you're doing all this deliberately, or you said something you now want to be unsaid. Any case, I think it's now in your best interest to step down from the election and let us decide later Because either you're not serious enough about the task of a mayor or a mafia. Not a good choice any way. Plus you've now made yourself sound suspicious. On March 20 2008 10:56 Mynock wrote: No, you don't realize a vital part of the plan, namely that the detectives use their role-check ability to see if the mayor is mafia or legit. If he is mafia we will know at once, if he's not, also. Worst case scenario is we lose a detective vs a mafia, best case scenario is we have a solid foundation for the rest of the game. On March 21 2008 01:10 Mynock wrote: I just now had time to catch up to the latest events and I have a couple things to say. Firstly, fusion, lay off of Ace please? Ace seems absolutely competent for his job, if based only on the fact that he's not acting based on emotions (unlike many of you here). Lynching iNc was easily justified, and explained oh so many times. If a person doesn't respond for 2 days while having a PM about being a Mad Hatter in their mailbox... well, nobody could have possibly predicted that. iNc is pretty much at fault himself here. Also, lynching Empyrean is only in the mafia's best interests. Why? Well, if I was mafia, I would now be pretty much confused about Empyrean's role (and chances of him being mafia are not too high actually). I think the following course of events is likely: If we largely predict Empyrean to be dead tonight, they will leave him be and have him attract suspicion to himself. If however we largely predict that they will know we think so, and that's exactly the reason they kept him alive, we should not jump the gun too soon because we risk lynching an active townie. Had we lynched Empyrean first day, that's a lot of problems off of mafia's shoulders, less guessing for them to do. Still, Emp presents a good target for the mafia even now, so helping them by going ahead and doing the job for them is in no way a good strategy. As for the Mad Hatter, I can't believe how some of you base your arguments on the mere fact that he happened to be a blue. If anything, it was iNc's fault! Ace went out of his way to ensure a role would not be harmed, his actions clearly shown it. Calm down people, and be reasonable. Now that we have a solid foundation for the game, let's do our best to build up from here, and work together with the people in office. On March 20 2008 10:52 Mynock wrote: Let's hope once Ace is in the office the plan works and we'll soon have a mayor who could then coordinate us and see if Emp really is legit. With a saboteur and a suicide bomber among the mafia tho, Emp is absolutely useless to the town now either way, except we might save a lynch if he is proven innocent. That's about all the use there is. On March 20 2008 11:01 Mynock wrote: Bah, another horrible move by Empyrean (assuming he is what he says he is). I was considering the chance that Emp was a townie, in which case what he was doing would have made some sense. First, he could draw the saboteur's ability away from the real roles, second, he might have wasted some of the mafia's killing power or even a suicide bomber. Now, if he's indeed a townie he's made another crucial mistake, instead of confusing the mafia (and possibly sacrificing himself) he's confusing the town even further. This is getting really weird now. But for now, I want to hear what others think tho. On March 20 2008 12:07 Mynock wrote: And yes, in case mafia claims to be a detective, Ace coordinates the detectives so that they make a round-check (can even ask a Jack to help) by asking them to check certain people and send in their results without revealing them to anybody else. This way mafia loses a member quite soon and quite certainly. It also has to be added though, that role-checking the detectives is absolutely important tho, as they and the bodyguards are the base of the whole mayor-town network and have to work closely with the mayor. Role-claiming other roles is also not a good idea for mafia, as roles can always be checked upon, and a mafia will always come into a short list of people and a lot of suspicion this way. Imagine mafia claiming a paramedic role. Now mayor assigns the paramedics to different targets (only he knows the targets and their roles) - now if one of the targets still dies it means the mafia somehow knew about the protection and sent more killers or the protector wasn't even protecting anything. Equally, if the mafia does not target the fake medic's assignment, it basically ensures the target's safety. So it's almost as having an extra medic around Fake-claiming roles for mafia does not seem like a good strategy here. On March 19 2008 04:11 Mynock wrote: I agree. What really goes against Empyrian here is that since he did well last game this feeble move right now seems like quite a misstep. Doesn't look right. On March 20 2008 11:51 Mynock wrote: Btw, and advice to paramedics: protect people who you see as being active and posting lots of proactive advice. Think the way a mafia would - it is in scum's best interest to target active, helping townies, so make your decisions based on that. Make them waste their hit power. On March 18 2008 21:37 Mynock wrote: He's already lying! Very suspicious! Let's see his points: 1 - Debatable! (OK, who am I kidding, that's a valid point) 2 - Liar! You're not a mod, you're a newsposter, you can't read edits! 3 - Irrelevant! 4 - Five! And you're not an admin! OMG, deceit! On March 19 2008 07:01 Mynock wrote: Empyrian, none of the points you made make any sense. Every further post you make just makes you look more and more suspicious. I don't see what kind of tactic it is to always enable double lynches and why it is in town's best interest. I don't see how "bodyguard protection is wasted" once mafia will put multiple targets up. In fact, I don't even get it what you want to say :/ Equally like "A detective mayor/pardoner is the best bet for the town. Even more so than a DT mayor." So a detective mayor is better than a detective mayor? What? On March 19 2008 07:05 Mynock wrote: I thought so too, but why is he using "/" then? :/ And what does it have to do with his goal? Is he asking for an "other" detective to come out as well? And all this talk about "a mafia mayor is just as good" is just... On March 21 2008 22:57 Mynock wrote: I don't think they would communicate through PMs tho, that's not really efficient. If I was mafia I'd make use of a separate forum created for this reason, passworded and all. Then again, if they don't use anything like that - more power to us But yeah, awaiting day now, nothing better to do than speculate... :/ On March 22 2008 11:32 Mynock wrote: Two mafias, HIGH FIVE!! Daybreak when? I will die On March 22 2008 12:43 Mynock wrote: Siddharta Fucking Gautama Buddha, you'll never stop, will you? Mafia please kill me now, else I shoot myself out of frustration -_-; + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 08:13 Yogurt wrote: i've found some flaws in the bodyguard plan, or at least i think i did, but ill wait till he reposts On March 20 2008 08:32 Yogurt wrote: thats not the one, but again, ill wait for ace to post it again On March 20 2008 11:28 Yogurt wrote: how do we guarantee who the detectives are again? imo if the mafia was smart, they would have 1 or two claim the detective roles to cause a lot of confusion and stall while townies died, even if they got lynched in the end On March 20 2008 13:40 Yogurt wrote: should've lynched someone that at least voted, which shows their active but refusing to share their views its not too good of odds to just pick randomly On March 20 2008 10:51 Yogurt wrote: i reread the plan, and for some reason i had in my mind that then the townies would be pm'ing their roles to the bodyguards, but i see he never wrote that in any case, this wouldn't work because of the massive pool of townies. Yes, it'd be easy to fish out the role claimers, as there are only two or three of each role, but the pool of townies is like 90 something people, which would allow mafia to just put their names in as townies, and it wouldn't help much. But anyway, I'm curious as to how the plan will continue. So hypothetically lets say Ace is mafia. He gets into "office" releases the names of the bodyguards, and everything seems fine. But if the town thinks he is legit, as he well might be, he garners a huge amount of trust and can sway the lynching votes away from his fellow mafia. But anyway, even if we do get the bodyguard names, where do we go from there? IF ace is mafia, he could release the names, but just as well kill all the bodyguards the first night. Well great, we lynch him, fine. But now pardoner has no bodyguards, and we're down a mayor. I dunno I guess someone should be skeptical of this plan On March 20 2008 12:52 Yogurt wrote: you mean the other way around right? at worst he's a townie? unless you meant it that way...! seriously though,i think the lynch would be better used on one of the quieter players, as we learned from last game On March 21 2008 04:15 Yogurt wrote: I'm not pming yet on the premise Ace might be mafia Another thing i have to say is everyone consider what they would do if they were mafia Would you really be contributing, besides maybe running for mayor, or would you lay back and try to let the town incriminate themselves like last match? The quietest ones are often the most dangerous On March 19 2008 03:34 Yogurt wrote: i vote for empyrean On March 19 2008 07:13 Yogurt wrote: even if empyrean is mafia, i dont see how it could potentially be THAT bad his double vote doesn't count for much, and if he doesn't put our double lynch demands to use, we can just lynch him and be done with it if he is really townie, or detective as he claims, then he would truly be a crazy help to the town he knows the game, winning it last round, and writing a detailed summary, so either way we either get a huge plus, or a not so bad negative + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 10:34 goldenkrnboi wrote: what if the pardoner is mafia? On March 19 2008 10:26 goldenkrnboi wrote: 63. HeRoS)Pink 95. OneBlueAugust it's too early to tell and it seems a bit too obvious, but let's just keep an eye on these two On March 20 2008 15:40 goldenkrnboi wrote: .____. well, can't really blame him. true, he should have gone for lurkerish type of people, but whatever. all we can do now is just wait for morning to come. On March 21 2008 15:04 goldenkrnboi wrote: Although I agree that the clue is too vague, chuiu specifically says that he avoids doing intentional red herrings. On March 22 2008 00:50 goldenkrnboi wrote: don't forget that last time, the votes and the discussion were on the same thread. Also, these are ONLY their posts, i did not put conversations/replies of other peoples, and unfortunatly these are also not in order. sorry x.x anyway here's who they voted for: NeaX voted for Ace Yogurt voted for Ace goldenkrnboi voted for Ace Mynock voted for randombum Apparently i'm blind and can't find who august voted for. NOTE:THESE POSTS ARE ONLY IN THIS THREAD, ANY POSTS IN THE VOTE THREADS OR ANY BLOGS I DID NOT GO THROUGH, EVERYTHING HERE CAN BE FOUND IN THIS THREAD Posted in night7/main_page.096 On March 22 2008 20:49 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: Oh well... I had the free time to do it anyway, lol. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 05:01 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=96&topic_id=67925 posts i made last night listing people in their countries, a list of the mafia suspect names and the posts made by oneblueaugust, mynock, goldenkrnboi and yogurt. incase anyone missed it and wanted to look at it all ;x Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:19 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:how long till we have to get our votes in? i just woke up so i haven't tried to connect people to clues yet, probably won't till later tonight;x Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: yes well look where that town ended up. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:38 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:someone voted for me? -.- edit: just checked vote blog, and by the gods someone did vote for me Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 05:41 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:anyone want me too find and list all of mandalors posts? i dont know if its really needed or not ;x Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:16 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:so uh i just noticed that with the addition of mr. orange, copperhead, california mountain snake and max that makes the mafia name list to 21. 1. Mr. Blonde 2. Mr. Brown 3. Mr. White 4. Mr. Pink 5. Mr. Red 6. Mr. Black 7. Mr. Blue 8. Mr. Orange 9. Taipan Snake 10.Cottonmouth 11.Snake Charmer 12.Sidewinder 13.Black Mamba 14.King Bown Snake 15.California Mountain Snake 16.Copperhead 17.Eddie 18.The Wolf 19.Joe 20.Enigma 21.Max unless i made a mistake? Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:17 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:if you guys want me to go through and find all the dead peoples posts i will, but i won't do it until later tonight ;x edit: and if someone has a faster way of finding all their posts, be it some trick i dont know or some script you can use, let me know please Posted in night7/main_page.152 Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:33 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: I originally connected G.s)Naruto too Mr. Blonde on day 1, though i havent yet gone through day 2 and day 3 clues to find connections, here was what i put in a notepad; G.s)Naruto - Mr. Blonde "Coming out of nowhere it seemed." - naruto anime has blonde hair; naruto is a ninja- >'coming out of nowhere'=sneaky "ninja-esque" Posted in night7/main_page.152 On March 27 2008 13:47 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: figured i'd re-quote this so i can get a yay or nay on it(and if someone else is already doing it) Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:53 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: i linked both of them; but naruto had a stronger link, since as far as i could link the clue it only went with ninja4evers username. Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:56 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: yeah but 'naruto' had more reasoning behind it (and the connection to 'mr.blonde') then just taking the username ninja4ever as a solid connection. but as i said, i put them both down for a connection to the clue, i just felt the clue was a stronger connection to g.s)naruto; and i haven't gone through to see if any other clues link to him yet Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 13:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: linked wrong; http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessa...opic_id=67925¤tpage=96#1903 Posted in night7/main_page.153 On March 27 2008 14:05 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:ok ill get all the people who dieds posts done later tonight, and ill do a few other things depending how long this takes, and hopefully get a chance to interpret the clues._. | ||
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108. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:10 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Ok I've finally compiled the list of posts of the people that died recently. They're sort of in order, i tried to keep them in order. I may have missed a few posts, but this is just about all of their posts from page 18 to 148. + Show Spoiler + On March 18 2008 16:14 ShadowDrgn wrote: Everyone's sigs can be found from the signup and their profiles from the OP. Putting them all together would be a lot of copy paste work. The clue that stands out the most to me is "either you're with us or you're permanently not" and from just looking at the sign up list, the statement seems like (94. unsoundlogic). He also has no sig, no profile, and few posts per week, meaning a clue made for him would have to come from his name. However, a more common form of that phrase such as "either you're with us or you're against us" would also be unsound logic so maybe there's something special in the words "permanently not." There's also (107. GrayArea) to consider for that clue (another person with no sig, profile, and few posts). Of course, the choice between two extremes leaves no gray area. On March 19 2008 13:39 ShadowDrgn wrote: In case anyone actually cares about the clues, here are my thoughts: Day 1 Clue: you get to taste lead for dinner Suspect: Caller Reason: Sig contains "lead" and other food items that could be related to "dinner" Clue: either you're with us or you're permanently not Suspect: unsoundlogic Reason: Clue contains unsound logic! Suspect: GrayArea Reason: Clue lacks a gray area. Clue: Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable Suspect: MidnightGladius Reason: Sig contains "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable" Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed Suspect: CDRdude Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off. Suspect: Ninja4ever Reasons: Ninja come out of nowhere! I think this connection is stronger than Dark Carnival does. Clue: [Dapperdan] met [King Brown Snake] face to face halfway Suspect HotZhot Reasons: Extremely weak, but his name sort of fits the description. His profile picture is a half-covered face too. Clue: Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. This seems like two separate clues ("automatically" and "being unarmed"), but I can't fit either of them to anyone. Clue: The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" Suspect: CTStalker Reason: Sig contains "I bear no grudge against you" plus the Wolf-Stalker connection. Credit to Dark.Carnival for this one - I think he's dead on. If we're going to lynch anyone based on clues, I think it should be CTStalker. On March 20 2008 07:47 ShadowDrgn wrote: Doesn't look like it's going to be possible to enforce the voting rule with 34 people unaccounted for. On March 21 2008 08:30 ShadowDrgn wrote: The 'PM your role' plan isn't foolproof because there are many people with the same role and additionally, a few of each role will probably be inactive. For example, there are 7 paramedics. Odds are that 1-2 of them won't get the message that they're supposed to PM their role to Ace, which means the mafia is fairly safe having a member or two lie to Ace about being a medic. Even if Ace receives 7 or fewer medic PMs, he can't trust those people to not be mafia. If he receives 8+ PMs, at least one person is mafia, but 1/8 is a lower ratio than randomly guessing, and there aren't enough detectives to go around to ferret out that one liar. Either way, those people can't be trusted. The plan is more useful for limited roles such as the Mad Hatter. With only one of those left, the mafia would be taking a huge gamble to pretend to be that one. Vigilantes and Detectives are medium risk - pretending to be one could be a huge payoff if the mafia doesn't get caught and Ace trusts them, but also poses a high risk of being busted. On March 21 2008 13:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: Hollander has an Einstein quote in his sig. Einstein's goal was a grand unified theory of physics. If that's a clue, it's incredibly good and you're a genius Chezinu. On March 22 2008 14:01 ShadowDrgn wrote: Yogurt did the right thing. He could only plant one bomb a night but could remove them at any time so the best strategy was to plant a bomb on the most suspicious person, which was CTStalker. Yogurt being randomly killed and CTStalker being a Jack were both really bad luck, just like your lynching of incontrol. Good strategy, bad luck. On March 23 2008 07:17 ShadowDrgn wrote: The plan was for the detectives to check on Ace's role, and if he's mafia, to post as such. Since no detective has outed him as mafia, we can assume: 1) Ace is clean; or, 2) All of the detectives didn't get the message or decided not to check up on Ace AND Ace is mafia. Considering the unlikelihood of (2), it's relatively safe to assume (1). We're boned at this point if we're wrong anyway so just trust him. On March 23 2008 11:44 ShadowDrgn wrote: It'd be more helpful if you could vouch for him not being mafia. On March 24 2008 15:25 ShadowDrgn wrote: Score! Awesome job on this one Ace. On March 24 2008 15:32 ShadowDrgn wrote: Ace said there were a few role collisions so we'll hopefully have another guaranteed hanging or two next day without the need for guesswork. On March 25 2008 09:25 ShadowDrgn wrote: Maybe you should get yourself suspected of being mafia then. I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven. On March 26 2008 04:42 ShadowDrgn wrote: I'm not really lying low. I'm PDT and most of the activity in this thread happens while I'm at school or at work. I did some clue postings for day 1, but other people beat me to day 2 and I just didn't have anything constructive to add. Would you like to know that shotguns are my favorite FPS weapon? Not like Chuiu had any way of knowing that. The dragoon connection is really grasping - drgn is dragon, nothing more. Put useLess and I voting for different people and check one of the groups out if you want to be safe. I think it'd actually be better to check if one of the "useless mafia" clues point to him instead, but that's not 100% guaranteed. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 07:54 French_Toast wrote: This, and fuck yeah sea king, are two of the worst things that ever spawned out of 4chan. On March 20 2008 07:42 French_Toast wrote: Amazing, this game is only starting and there is already 57 pages of posts! That's around 1/3 of the pages of last game! Maybe we will set a TL record? On March 21 2008 06:18 French_Toast wrote: Wow, Ace's plan is so stupid and cheap. I liked the bodyguard plan but this is a sign of desperation. Yeah, guys let's make this game even more cheap! Lets have everyone pm their roles so we know who's lying! Seriously, if you want to keep this game fun, avoid cheap exploits like that. On March 21 2008 06:33 French_Toast wrote: I saw perfectly what happened. However this time people are no longer n00bs and are really into it. If you read some of the posts, some people claimed to have spreadsheets of people's names, sigs, possible themes, who they accuse, and who they voted for. The town doesn't need a cheap-ass strategy like this one. This game is supposed to be about fun, not just winning. Same thing with chess, there is a strategy called fools-mate that allows you to win in like three turns. However, most people would rather play an actual game then to fool their opponent into losing so quickly. The reason? It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and challenging. On March 21 2008 07:26 French_Toast wrote: Okay, first of all thanks for insulting me directly, now I have an excuse to put you down. Secondly, are you the type of n00b that when he gets a great game and plays it, he types in cheat codes automatically? Do you really like to replace skill with exploits? If so then games in general are not for you, especially StarCraft. Why do you think developers balance games out? StarCraft went through so many patches for that single purpose, that is why it's so competitive. And no, I don't want to lose, but I don't want to play unfair either! And if you were talking about cheesing for StarCraft, those aren't really exploits, they are valid strategies that can be countered. On March 21 2008 07:29 French_Toast wrote: Thanks for asking. I like the bodyguard plan, that seems a great way to go. Also, I think we should spend a lot of our time interpreting clues, I mean if people did that more last game, the townies would have won. Especially in the end, they were so obvious. On March 21 2008 07:43 French_Toast wrote: Of course you are playing by the rules, you just chose to go the wrong way to go about it. You are not hacking, or cheating, a better way to describe it would be glitching. Look, let's say everyone responds truthfully except for the Mafia. Unless the Mafia are stupid they will all claim to be townies. Now, what you have is, all special roles are safe and medics can be assigned via PM. Also you have 31 innocents and you know everyone's special role. So, then you could also coordinate attacks with vigilantes, investigations with detectives, and other stuff. HOW CHEAP IS THAT? You are pretty much assembling an organized army and reducing possible suspects by 31! This game is set for you! Unless the mafia are super awesome you are pretty much 4 pooling them. On March 21 2008 07:47 French_Toast wrote: I don't really see how my posts are bitchy, but if you want me to be more polite, then sure. On March 21 2008 07:50 French_Toast wrote: Well if you are accusing me of being mafia then I'm afraid I have no defense off the top of my head. The only thing I could really say is that you'll be wasting a lynch. On March 21 2008 08:06 French_Toast wrote: I know this is doing wonders for my post count Mafia related: I am not trying to act selfish, if I seem that way, I'm just trying to point out that this strategy is cheap and we should stick to others like: interpreting the clues, and bodyguard plan. On March 21 2008 08:15 French_Toast wrote: I think I already addressed this, whatever I'll say it again. In the previous posts I made, one of my arguments was that it would make the game less fun. Mafia is supposed to be about digging up clues and dirt on people, convincing your theory is right to other people, and having fun in general. These kind of games can become epic and fun to read, but if you use a cheap win you will lose all of that. On March 21 2008 08:32 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, good joke I guess, I didn't fully understand how my posts don't have quality. (If your speaking about my previous one liner then I didn't really have much to respond to.) I'll be looking forward to it. For the spreadsheet thing, to bad you didn't go through with it, I guess it's a thing for people with a lot of time. As for the information gathering point, I actually see a big difference. You could, of course keep track of all these people, get info, and guess who's who, that's what I'm saying you should do. Doing your own investigative work and then comparing answers with someone else is what I think the most exciting part of this game is. However, telling everyone to PM their roles to you, if you can combine that with your list effectively, you own all. Not only will you have all of the special roles in due time, you will also have an abridged list of suspects, and all the detectives at your disposal. Using detectives to check your suspects and Vigilantes to kill them is like the ultimate counter-mafia fighting force! On March 21 2008 08:42 French_Toast wrote: True, but that is why I am attracted to this game so. You have lots of time to keep track of everything and to determine clues. However the down side to this is that there are so many people that it is a guessing game most of the time, if people actually take the challenge to do all of this investigating then they will have fun and dominate. Yes, at first. But this plan is not instantly put into place, after around 2 days people have to login to vote or else they are breaking the rule that you have to vote and will be kicked, then the role will be assigned to another and they will confirm. After a while you will the info. On March 21 2008 08:47 French_Toast wrote: Ha ha, alright I was wondering you picked shallow bay to talk about his mom, I thought it was funny because of that. On March 24 2008 09:01 French_Toast wrote: I don't really understand what you mean by confusing the town. If speaking out against your plan was confusing the town then I'm not sure we have the same definition. As for being against you on every step, not really. I agree with you lynching Mandalore, that counts. On March 24 2008 09:11 French_Toast wrote: I'm not going to go into the details of why I think it's cheap again. Talking about the strategy being cheap was just my opinion being expressed. It was not my intention to cause confusion and panic (which I hope I didn't do), it was just to point out that it resembled something of abusing a glitch in a game. I have not yet however seen an outcome or jump in the numbers of mafia getting killed per night, so so far I have been proven wrong. On March 24 2008 09:17 French_Toast wrote: Showtime!, if you would like further discuss whether it's cheap or not, do not do it in the thread. On March 24 2008 09:32 French_Toast wrote: And then we lynch him and he turns out to be a towny. Would you rather be 90% sure or 100% sure? Last game a lot of people were lynched that were so obvious and turned out to be towny. An example would be Dr.Dragoon, with the syringe clue, people were 99% sure it's him, and he turned up innocent. On March 24 2008 07:37 French_Toast wrote: Speaking of which, why do we have to lynch people. Instead of voting only for the person we should also vote for that way we kill them. We could maybe shoot them in the head, inject them with some crap, chop their head off with a guillotine... etc. Night posts would be so much more interesting if we had a creative way of killing people. On March 24 2008 08:54 French_Toast wrote: Oh my, I'm famous! On a side note- Just because you are irritated at my posts doesn't mean I am necessarily mafia. As for Ace's post on lynching people because their annoying, for someone who cares so much about the town to push the self destruct button... (I hope that was sarcasm) On March 24 2008 13:46 French_Toast wrote: I don't think it should take them that long to make tactical decisions. Assuming the mafia are organized, the constantly active mafias are most likely the ones who make most of the decisions and just use the constantly inactive mafia's killing power for their schemes. That's how it worked last game, wouldn't be surprised if that's how it worked now. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 08:07 LucasWoJ wrote: It was also very apparent to outsiders that Dr. Dragoon was completely innocent. On March 19 2008 08:21 LucasWoJ wrote: I don't particularly care that Empyrean is selfish. If it's the kind of selfishness that helps the town win, then I think it's fine. It's more a question of how credible he is, and to me, he's completely honest. Same for you Ace, but I voted for Empyrean because of his detective role. On March 19 2008 08:35 LucasWoJ wrote: It's a little bit more than his word. Based on his response to speculations about his role, I cannot see him being a mafioso. However, I'm beginning to see what you're arguing by saying it was selfish. By saying he's a detective, he's forced the town to take a risk, no matter what we do. If we don't him in as mayor, and he was a detective, the we lose a valuable role. If he is in the mafia and we DO vote him in as mayor, then...well, that's not desirable to say the least. Either way (voting for him, or not voting for him), you're taking a risk, which is something someone may have wanted to avoid in the mayoral elections. I can see that as a valid point to abstain from voting, but to me, the risk of Empyrean being mafia is not too high. On March 19 2008 08:48 LucasWoJ wrote: Considering you have "Pink" in your name, you just made me question whether Empyrean is really part of mafia or not. Are you saying that because they agree on a position that works, they're both part of mafia? Eh? Makes no sense to me. On March 19 2008 08:58 LucasWoJ wrote: Wow, you shouldn't have revealed that. That's an incredibly thoughtful idea. I guess it sorta confirms your allegiance to the town thinking up that idea. On March 19 2008 09:35 LucasWoJ wrote: OO That is a big hole in the plan. On March 19 2008 12:40 LucasWoJ wrote: I actually find a lot of his one liners pretty funny. I suggest all of us go back and re-read the topic, especially anything concerning Empyrean. As we get further and further from his defense posts, it becomes easier and easier to forget about how credible it seemed of him to be a detective. I'm trying to do this with an open mind, and his defense of himself leads me to believe that he is a detective. On March 21 2008 03:29 LucasWoJ wrote: Stalling for time? If he everyone to send him a PM with their roles except for mafia, we know who mafia is. If he receives too many PMs in one sections, we get suspects. Townies all have roles they can play by, mafia will either have to lie and might get caught, or not send a PM and get exposed that way. On March 21 2008 03:37 LucasWoJ wrote: It would still help with the slightest screw-up from the mafia. Say four detectives send a PM to Ace revealing their roles. One mafioso decides to become a detective for the sake of the PM. Bam, we've got a smaller suspect list. It's easier to look into the Day posts and find clues for 5 people than 130. On March 21 2008 07:54 LucasWoJ wrote: Jeez, it sounds like you're against the town winning. If it's by the rules, why complain about what you feel is inevitable victory? Sure sounds like your against the interest of the town. It sounds like you're a mafioso who's having trouble deciding on what to do. On March 22 2008 22:17 LucasWoJ wrote: WoJ doesn't stand for Warriors of Justice, but even if it did, it would be ridiculous for Chuiu to decide that that's what it stands for. I can follow your accusations until the "made his mark" clue, Warriors of Justice aside, but I can't even defend "make your mark" because it seems so random. What's the reasoning behind the "meet your mark" leading to me"? I think that's completely far fetched, and is not a clue in my direction. I understand we're just shooting for anything here, but that accusation is just ridiculous and faulty (and Ace asked us not too). Assume a clue read "And he yelled loudly..." To imitate what you just did, I could turn around and say that this clue points to Shallow[bay] since bay stands for BrothersAreYelling. He must be the Yeller! Excluding his day 1 posts, his posts also added nothing except confusion within the town (I don't actually believe that; if anyone had any problems with his posts, they should've just read past them.) Lastly Plexa, I'm not sure why anyone would even make such wild accusations. Why even bother convincing the town of something that seems skeptical to you? On March 22 2008 22:24 LucasWoJ wrote: Also since it popped into my head, the smiley face reference does not necessarily refer to the profile. As Chuiu said, it can point to posts as well. I know I was wondering why some people had used so many smileys so often in their posts. Let's be careful when we convict anyone based solely on that clue alone. It can already lead to two people just by examining everyone's quote (and definitely more by looking through their profile) and if look at anything else, the suspect list is definitely going to grow. On March 22 2008 22:28 LucasWoJ wrote: That's irrelevant. Still, it used to stand for WaysoftheJedi, but once again, Chuiu could not even begin to assume that. Now that clan is long gone On March 22 2008 22:55 LucasWoJ wrote: Yes, but I'd like to establish myself as innocent from the beginning. If I was to come out with a post that only said "I am not mafia. That clue is stupid." I would have rightly been met with a "That's very suspicious" --- I can see how you used Warriors of Justice. I guess Chuiu does that a lot, but I still don't get the "make your mark" part. On March 23 2008 02:26 LucasWoJ wrote: Actually, I thinl that it's the best clue we have. Chuiu repeated the lead reference twice, so I am almost positive it's some sort of a clue. My personal opinion is that it's the strongest clue we have, since most of the other ones are really just hit/miss + hope you get something good. The cellphone clue just strengthens our case against Caller. On March 23 2008 07:30 LucasWoJ wrote: You just woke up? What time is it where you are? (I'm looking at the "United States" part and laughing). On March 24 2008 05:04 LucasWoJ wrote: Yeah, anyone pointing fingers at Ace is arousing my suspicions of being in the mafia. By not sending in the PMs, you're hurting the entire town. Anyone questioning Ace's trustworthiness should stop. If you haven't been following the thread and decided to read the last few posts, wrong move. Re-read the threat or go to falcyn's blog. Requesting that a detective speak is just plain stupid too...Reread the thread, all of this was covered already. On March 24 2008 05:11 LucasWoJ wrote: That's why he asked us the retract our votes, that way, those that are on will vote for whom we know is mafia. Ace knows what he's doing. Give him a chance. It seems that no matter who is mayor, there's always a group of people willing to give him a hard time. Calm down, we're in good hands. On March 24 2008 05:12 LucasWoJ wrote: ...so you're against the town getting more time if it needs it? On March 24 2008 05:17 LucasWoJ wrote: You haven't convinced me. Obviously, you have a very strange definition for playing fair. This is not what we should be doing. This reaction is provoked by a lack of patience and creates a rush of emotions that could destroy our foundation in this game. Let's cut it out and wait for Ace to get those PMs back. On March 24 2008 05:20 LucasWoJ wrote: And by saying that, you're implying you're blue encouraging the mafia to target you. You hurt the town with even that statement. On March 24 2008 05:26 LucasWoJ wrote: No, but apparently, the PMs Ace is missing is from vigilantes, which really hurts us since Ace already has a suspect list of 3-4 people (from what he said earlier). On March 24 2008 05:50 LucasWoJ wrote: If any clue points to French toast, it will most likely be concerned with his profile image On March 24 2008 05:59 LucasWoJ wrote: Don't forget that people can die during the night. On March 24 2008 06:05 LucasWoJ wrote: ROFL Yeah, I just re-read that and it made no sense. I thought Pink's logic was "Let's kill ghar tonight and kill the other suspects." My logic was that detective might die at night and then would not be able to uncover more mafia. Now that I think about it, that makes no sense whatsoever, lol. On March 25 2008 01:40 LucasWoJ wrote: Hmm, yeah you're right. He edited his post after it was announced. I'm guessing now that it originally said, "I abstain" and then he changed it to "I change my vote to Mandalor." I wish people just made new posts. On March 25 2008 01:43 LucasWoJ wrote: I think he's saying that he posted "I abstain" on March 23rd, and and on March 24th, he edited his post, instead of making a new one voting for Mandalor. :/ On March 25 2008 00:29 LucasWoJ wrote: That was a good call to investigate that. I was thinking that the people toward the bottom of the list would be mafia since they just jumped on the bandwagon in order to save themselves, but TL-Attack was on and I noticed most of the people voted after it was over. Also, those on the very bottom could just have been late, but chances are that at least a few of them decided they needed to vote against their teammate. I don't want to start calling names, since it was in the town's best interest to vote for Mandalor. I'm also wondering this. There were a lot of random votes here and there, and perhaps it could be an indication of mafia splitting their votes so that detectives have a hard time finding information on how the mafia voted. Or they could be inactive. On March 25 2008 00:39 LucasWoJ wrote: And it gets slightly better too. If the mafia hits any of the guys who voted for mandalor, it becomes easier to find them. Even though I'd prefer to lose minimal townies, if that doesn't happen, we'll still be able to benefit in some way. The mayor is much better this game than last game. On March 25 2008 01:26 LucasWoJ wrote: Let's see if we could find any clues on him. User name smurfingchobo [ PM | Buddy ] Photo None uploaded. Joined TL.net Monday, 26th of April 2004 Birthday January 15, 1987 Country Quote Teach me PvZ~ Total Posts 527 Average Posts Per Day 0.37 Average Posts Per Week 2.59 Posts made in the last week 7 That's all he has, so it should be rather blatant if there is anything on him. Though Chuiu hasn't revealed all identities yet (I think he revealed 17), so it might become more clear tomorrow. On March 25 2008 08:57 LucasWoJ wrote: For the mafia? We seem to be doing incredibly well. Everything Ace does is cutting the mafia's escape plans. I'm seriously doubting we're going to lose, and Ace is making it look easy. On March 25 2008 11:51 LucasWoJ wrote: Is that a change in signature Showtime? On March 25 2008 12:04 LucasWoJ wrote: Disable you in the hopes of getting a townie lynched I guess. With your powers, you'd be able to pardon a townie, but I doubt they'd even get very far. Ace has so much more influence than entire mafia combined that we'd probably not need to use the pardoner. On March 26 2008 02:03 LucasWoJ wrote: Yeah, I remember someone saying "Guys, I took a hit last night" and most people just overlooked that (someone repsonded with "You mean you drank too much or what?" It was after the Day 2 post. On March 26 2008 02:00 LucasWoJ wrote: Oh, I see. Yeah, the very fact that wurm (if he's a medic) received a PM confirming that he saved someone during the night is reason enough to send Ace a PM and tell him. He should have also sent him a PM before the the new Day post informing Ace of his actions during the night (If someone is saved during the night, then it becomes more plausible that it was your doing since you sent in your actions to both Chuiu and Ace.) On March 26 2008 01:48 LucasWoJ wrote: Yes, but the person being protected would know if more than one person protected him. On March 26 2008 01:52 LucasWoJ wrote: Read your post, then read my post. There didn't have to be a point. You had a hole in what you were saying, so I helped you out with it. I don't see what you're arguing. On March 26 2008 11:34 LucasWoJ wrote: OH, I see what you did there. Clever, aren't you? On March 26 2008 11:39 LucasWoJ wrote: I'm just wondering, why do you say you're definitely going to die? o.O On March 26 2008 12:08 LucasWoJ wrote: He's not drunk; I don't think he knows English well, that's all. On a side note, I used to love the Pinky and the Brain. It used to be one of my favorite cartoons. On March 26 2008 12:09 LucasWoJ wrote: Was that part added after or before the way he chose to vote on Day 2? + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2008 12:07 JeeJee wrote: people who vote for empyrean crack me up. if he's legit, the best he can do for us is verify the mayor then get shot by mafia, because there's no reason to vote for him at all, since saboteur will juts be laughin at us (realize that he had nobody to roleblock until empyrean went "im dt lulz!") if we elect him now that his role is out of the question (WHY was it even in question? i don't understand, someone roleclaiming @ this point holds as much weight as something that doesn't have a lot of weight at all), what else has he provided? nothing aside from repeatedly self-contradicting posts. as for the other candidates..meh. i was keeping an updated excel sheet of ALL the people, who they vote for, who supports them, who they support, who accuses them, who they accuse, because it gets oh-so-easy to keep track of people (i was reading thread @ work and felt like doing that) then i get home and flip vanilla, so i suddenly get far too lazy to do that =/ maybe someone else can take over, i'll send you what i have right now (it goes up to page 35ish i think?) oh and it has the list of all the people, their sigs, and potential themes used for clues, ordered by likelihood, since I think that getting a list of clues that could apply to a certain person, then running through the day post to see if any in fact DO match, is a far better way than vice versa (running through the post to see the people they might match to) someone with a lot of time (randombum?) wanna do this? ill probably end up voting for ace or randombum, since at least they're attempting logical, objective stuff ,rather than pointless subjective stuff (im looking at you, empyrean and sonuv) On March 19 2008 12:12 JeeJee wrote: dt in other news, vote for me, im a bodyguard. i can't be killed while i'm alive. can't beat this platform, there's no logical holes in that at all On March 19 2008 12:22 JeeJee wrote: Don't you mean the kal? (urbandictionary's full of shi---err kal!) edit: turn that frown upside down! and, to make this mafia related, due to a few sidebets before the game started, there's a group of 3 people (im 1 of them) that 'know' each other's roles! we could've lied of course, but we're buddies, we wouldn't do that.. i hope. On March 19 2008 12:33 JeeJee wrote: the thing about tying up mafia's roleblocker.. it's not like they have anything better to roleblock anyway. if they want someone not to act, they can kill them, and it's unlikely that they'll find out a jack or medic any time soon (and once again, if they do, they can just kill them) On March 20 2008 08:01 JeeJee wrote: numbers are irrelevant, we have a few people on waiting list, get them in, randomly disperse the roles to townies (im just saying this cause im vanilla haha), and say the rest died in a tragic forest fire. no point making rules if you're not enforcing them, however harsh it may be. less dead weight for mafia to hang about in anyway (notice there's a lot less mafia relatively, 15% vs 20% so dead weight is that much more deadly) if you really want to, give them one more chance to vote in 2nd day, but with a 48hour timeline, that really shouldn't be necessary On March 20 2008 09:16 JeeJee wrote: im pretty certain jacks have access to 6 rolechecks. however keep in mind they cannot use the same role in consecutive days, meaning it would take 12 days for all 6 rolechecks, at the least. after all, if the checks don't refresh in count, why would the detective night lives? hopefully chuiu can confirm, but i don't think it's a big deal to have a check every other day/night cycle for 12 cycles. On March 20 2008 13:08 JeeJee wrote: @hotzhot, the final vote count has already been done, so.. as for ace, looking through the thread, he seems to post at every hour of every day pretty much; i wonder if he sleeps? O_o still let's not get off on the wrong foot with forcing ace to lynch someone he might not want. we don't want the same shit that happened last game (i.e. a bad start) there's no particular hurry anyway, the day post was posted 45 hours ago, so there's still at least 3 hours til the 'ultimate' deadline. would be silly to do anything until then disregard that, ace is back.! On March 21 2008 08:13 JeeJee wrote: @french toast, heros pink firstly - the thing about excel spreadsheets. whichever one of you mentioned it, the conversation was between me and ace. however since i flipped vanilla townie, i stopped updating my excel sheet cause i honestly don't give a damn (it's stuck at around page 35ish, the conversation took page on around 40ish). secondly, this everyone-pm-ace-their-role plan is just that, a plan. plans can go wrong in so many ways. how is this cheap? certainly if you argue that this is cheap, what about my excel spreadsheet? let's assume i wasn't lazy, and actually updated it. as soon as someone died, BAM i could go and see who supported that person, who accused that person, who that person accused, who that person supported, who he voted for, whether he changed votes, etc. With 9+ kills per night, don't you think that's a retardedly high amount of information? add in the themes and clues i was thinking of (another tab in my excel sheet), and you get a nice suspect list, that you can fine-tune each day, as each death gives a shitload of information to the person. i almost talked myself into getting back to updating this list -_-; both plans are just ways of getting information, which is necessary for town to win. both are within the rules, and so the game is balanced around them. i find it hard to believe that chuiu didn't take this into account. if he didn't want this to happen, he can ban PMs, plain and simple (like in tracil's game) seriously now don't be silly On March 21 2008 11:13 JeeJee wrote: why would a townie mayor lie about being roleblocked? edit: the only thing that has me thinking is this either chuiu isn't that strict about making sure the sab tells him before day starts, or the first day is an exception On March 21 2008 14:02 JeeJee wrote: i vouch for august ^_^ he's one of the group of 3 i mentioned earlier (it's actually 4 now!) that 'know' each other's roles due to sidebets from before the game. and obviously it's in quotes because we could've lied. i wouldn't want to be a buddy with a liar though. *cough* On March 21 2008 14:20 JeeJee wrote: @august the person who helped run tracil's game is alethios, who is playing this game the person who said anything about martial law was only rts)nightmare and this was in the first thread, and he is playing. On March 21 2008 14:28 JeeJee wrote: personally i doubt they were intended clues (at least intended to be interpreted in this way) but you never know (no but seriously, i think it's really unlikely those are clues at all, let alone clues to those people, but..) On March 22 2008 00:53 JeeJee wrote: i'd imagine mafia are probably using an irc channel for immediate thoughts and something like a private google group for people in a diff timezone or whatnot. that's what we did in tracil's game anyway, and it worked out fairly well anyway the day post being up has probably nothing to do with chuiu, he has to get all the night actions (more than just mafia) in before even thinking about what happens. and it's not like once they're in he instantly has a day post ready to go. have some patience ^_^ On March 22 2008 03:58 JeeJee wrote: we already have a set of clues in the day1 post day 2 is gonna have the 2nd set of clues :O On March 22 2008 07:48 JeeJee wrote: you sound awfully calm for a townie. maybe you know something we dont. and only way that happens is you being mafia. wanna come clean? On March 22 2008 10:54 JeeJee wrote: i don't get it O_o anyway, could we get a time estiamte from chuiu? where are we at, night actions being sent, night actions received creating clues, clues done creating daypost, or..? i'm juts wondering :O On March 22 2008 23:47 JeeJee wrote: ah yes it could be you too, good catch. also, i recall someone quoting araav saying "i think i was protected, and the medic, can you PM me since you know im innocent" or something like that. well someone quoted him and said you should get a pm if you were protected.. my question is, assuming he was really protected, why would he ask for the medic to msg him? on the other hand, if he wanted the identity of the medic, it becomes more likely for his affiliation to be mafia On March 22 2008 23:32 JeeJee wrote: a recurring statement: day1 day2 unfortunately, i've gone through the profiles and can't seem to find anyone that has a face-to-face thing going on for them. i didn't look @ profile pics though, maybe someone could skim through those quick? :O edit: ok current suspect list for this quote (thx to heros)pink contribution) in order of likelyhood (completely imho) nemy - profile Pic, chick looking at her face in mirror RowdierBob - profile pic, animation guys looking at each other heros)pink - profile pic, 2 people looking in each other's eyes (trading glares) omfghi2u2 - name LemMe - quote, what's up On March 23 2008 00:07 JeeJee wrote: .....yeeeees and? how does this justify araav wanting to know the identity of the medic On March 23 2008 00:39 JeeJee wrote: it actually linked to fen and his birthday as far as i understand, the only recurring thing from last game that didn't point to anyone was people kicking stuff, so i wouldn't look too deep into any of those clues. chuiu himself said something along those lines "i like people kicking shit. it wasn't a clue that pointed to anyone else though" On March 24 2008 05:47 JeeJee wrote: have you went through the timestamps of his posts in this thread to confirm he's usually online at this time? if so, that's pretty damning evidence On March 24 2008 05:52 JeeJee wrote: well it's not like it takes any longer than a few minutes ... it would be pretty stupid to be waiting on a reply from someone who's sleeping from say 2;00KST to 10;00KST On March 24 2008 05:55 JeeJee wrote: well as long as you feel the time is reasonable enough -- keep in mind it is easter weekend anyway, make a statement or something at the latest by 10:00KST or so, that'll give us like ~3 hours to get the votes in; should be fine On March 24 2008 06:02 JeeJee wrote: no what? it's statements like these that make no sense at all. you're making me waste a post and clutter up the thread. jeez On March 26 2008 07:46 JeeJee wrote: it's actually not, assuming chuiu/dapperdan follows through with his promise and gets rid of them, as well as passing on their roles before night3 (after getting the waitlisted guys in, obviously). and maybe ban them from next game (if there is one) as well (just a 1-game ban, don't go nuts here) as for the 3 spammers in this thread (aznval, showtime, shallow), stfu. a lot of people don't want to read that shit. annnnnnnd finally, for the person who suggested we only investigate one half of the groups (since the other could be deduced from the total) -- dont. this is good assuming everyone votes, and the people who didn't previously vote also dont' vote. if this could be guaranteed, there would be a better course of action anyway (virtual splits), but since it's not a guarantee at all, both sides must still be investigated. the good thing about doing this, is that it doesn't matter whether you want to follow along with the plan or not, because you're still following along with it. we know what the total mafia #s have to add up to, and if the people who were told to vote for someone choose to abstain, or in fact choose to vote for someone else entirely, they will affect the total, and in fact, reveal their alignment. obv there's a loophole to this (at least it looks like it - thankfully, there's a somewhat obvious prevention mechanism as well) On March 26 2008 08:45 JeeJee wrote: whoops, sorry bout that ace. still, i can't imagine mafia didn't think of that, they'd have to be pretty retarded, and if that's the case, saying that won't help them anyway. On March 26 2008 12:32 JeeJee wrote: dont worry most of it is spam from people who keep telling others to stop spamming. ahh the irony. anyway, i dont think today's 48hr thing is going to be held up, haven't heard a word from chuiu, and day posts usually take a while to write.. it's a shame -- i'm not even sure where dapperdan is so i don't think we have a backup either? hmm On March 27 2008 08:49 JeeJee wrote: chuiu! are you planning on kicking the people who haven't voted in day2 and day1? as in, no more chances, bye bye to them, get people from waiting list in? + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 01:09 dinmsab wrote: Voting for randombum. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2008 02:53 Fishball wrote: I just want to get this over with and head to Night. The votes are pretty much set. On March 21 2008 04:25 Fishball wrote: I call mafia Townies can't be that dumb, right?! Vigil get him gogo On March 21 2008 04:36 Fishball wrote: Everyone just hush, and wait for Day to come. See who lives and who dies. Then wait for our detectives to check our mayor out. After that point we continue to phase 2. The Bodyguard plan would be carried out in the end anyways. As the majority of townies voted for him, it would be pointless if we would want to stop Ace's plan here, except for one case - Ace is proved to be mafia. "Certain" individuals who oppose Ace's plan at this early stage of the game, even after fellow players who tried to explain the logic to him yet "failed", really looks suspicious to me. On March 21 2008 04:43 Fishball wrote: Yep, like hacking into TL's system and check all PMs for roles OK, all jokes aside, the answer would be no. However, we should be more logical. Like I said, Day hasn't even come yet, nor did any Detectives are able to check Ace yet. It's kinda pointless having arguments when things didn't even happen yet. A good example is that people were already debating against each other before Chuiu even sent out PMs for roles. On March 21 2008 05:43 Fishball wrote: All elements aside, just this specific case as an example. If I were Mayor and Mafia, I could fake a claim that I got roleblocked so I don't use my double lynches. On March 21 2008 05:57 Fishball wrote: Oh I know its effective if the Mafia used it right. I'm just explaining the possible reasons to clazziquai of why a fellow mafia would role block a fellow mafia mayor. To decieve the townies. On March 21 2008 06:40 Fishball wrote: Seems like the potential mafia approve of this plan! They are QQing! On March 21 2008 06:44 Fishball wrote: Exactly the point, hence my post above yours, haha On March 22 2008 20:39 Fishball wrote: Re-read your own post again. You think it makes sense? Hey, I know you want to double-up your million dollars. Just give your money to me and I'll do it for you. No worries, I'll tell you how I'm going to do it once I get your money! Ha, I beat your ninja edit. Posted in night7/main_page.156 On March 27 2008 18:12 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:if something is messed up tell me ill try to fix it, and the [-/b-][-/b-] below first spoilers i havent any idea where the mistake is, so just ignore that Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 05:44 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: alventenie isn't mafia, so you can cross him off your list. Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 17:55 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I change my vote from araav to Ace he has some good plans for the town and seems like the best candidate to carry them out. Posted in night7/vote2_page.002 On March 23 2008 05:21 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:I change my vote from abstaining to voting for Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.002 On March 27 2008 18:27 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:Im abstaining from voting i changed my vote to mandalor last time but i didnt make new post(just edited) so it got counted as abstaining, so ill stick to abstaining. Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 18:00 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:im abstaining i haven't really been following the thread that much so i'm not really sure who the major suspects are, nor have i really gone through clues so until there's a definitive plan that im aware of ill be abstaining. + Show Spoiler [zeks] + 114. zeks Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:45 zeks wrote:Sign me up for this game! Thanks a lot Posted in night7/main_page.028 On March 19 2008 03:21 zeks wrote:Ace and Ghar are the frontrunners right now, but I feel that Ace is the safer bet. Ace has my trust...for now Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 03:54 zeks wrote:Isn't it more advantageous to have both the mayor and pardoner on the same "line"? Should we consider that when voting...like making a sure a pair of mayor-pardoner that can work together well? Posted in night7/main_page.030 On March 19 2008 04:29 zeks wrote:well lol, i guess since the King Brown Snake is from Australia...oh wait theres like 6 Australians Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 23:52 zeks wrote:All I gotta say is ... unlucky I guess. I think Ace deserves a second chance to redeem himself. Hopefully in future nights we can point a good finger to someone...we need stronger clues. Posted in night7/main_page.101 On March 23 2008 05:58 zeks wrote:on a side note, it'd be totally ironic if L was part of the mafia... if anyone watched death note, he was the mastermind behind cracking down on light (judging people with the death note -- ie. mafia powers?) or maybe chuiu decided to give L killing power for an ironic twist... Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 On March 19 2008 04:01 zeks wrote:I vote for Ace Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 06:01 zeks wrote:I abstain for now...gut feeling i'm getting is that a blue will go down again. Waiting for an announcement from Ace. Posted in night7/vote2_page.007 On March 24 2008 09:53 zeks wrote:I also change my vote from abstain to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.003 On March 28 2008 07:04 zeks wrote:My first vote goes to wurm, second vote goes to Ghar. Joining the bandwagon. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 16:14 zeks wrote:I change my vote to just Ghar Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 11 2008 00:41 zeks wrote:I vote for L. Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 10:48 zeks wrote:I vote for Crazie-Penguin Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 24 2008 05:30 zeks wrote:I vote L and ulszz + Show Spoiler [{88}iNcontroL] + 112. Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:33 {88}iNcontroL wrote:sign me up! Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote: <3 Looks fun. I would be dumb to not want to be involved! Posted in night7/main_page.072 On March 20 2008 15:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:doh I wanted to plant bombs + Show Spoiler [~OpZ~] + 90. ~OpZ~ Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:12 ~OpZ~ wrote:Lol...I feel people should be required a signature...and a picture in profile, and maybe one on the TL.net gallery too...I like the gallery... Also, I feel activity should be confirmed like...once every 2 days before we start the game, BECAUSE...we may already have some inactives on the list... Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:I'm talkin about before we begin Kuja... Posted in night7/main_page.037 On March 19 2008 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:I don't like Ghar's plan...But I don't think he's Mafia...if he is...I would suspect Ace of being mafia also as he is so keen on Ghars plan...We need to find out who likes the movie reservior dogs...and Quentin Tarintino... Lot's of Pulp Fiction, Reservior Dogs, and Kill Bill references...or someone with a name like it. "The Wolf" - Pulp Fiction, Robert DeNiro Random Snake Names - Duh Kill Bill Mr. random colors - Reservior Dogs (Fuck Mr. Blonde is evil) Posted in night7/main_page.038 On March 19 2008 08:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:So let us find out who here likes Quentin Tarentino as that might be a clue... Kill Bill references Reservior dog references Pulp Fiction references (Mr. Wolf) Also, Ghar could be mafia, but I don't think he is....But if he is I would greatly suspect Ace. I voted for Fusion for Mayor. Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:Dude...People...Vote for Fusion dammit. He is full of win! Fuck Emp, tho I doubt he is mafioso... (I actually like Emp, but I doubt his deductive powers, unlike Fusions which has been proven...) =D Posted in night7/main_page.045 On March 19 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:What role did emp claim again? Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:I believe Caller to be mafia...Due to his signature. "Bread, apples, very small rocks, cider, horses, sherry, mud, churches, lead" Full of lead anyone? Clue may not be strong, but I'm looking for some sort of connection, and it is Day 1, we need someone to lynch... Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:dt is detective? Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:27 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know that we don't lynch people...I'm just saying it for whoever wins mayoral election. =D And possibly later, when we start lynching. Posted in night7/main_page.046 On March 19 2008 12:29 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'm just pointing out that in the day 1 clue, DapperDan was pumped full of lead...And Caller's signature has lead in it...maybe some connection, but it is weak I know, but it is a start.....That's all I'm saying Posted in night7/main_page.047 On March 19 2008 12:56 ~OpZ~ wrote: Regardless whether its a bad idea, SOMEONE must be lynched. If someone who is lynched has a clue that MIGHT point to them, then that is better than lynching some random townie. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes, but if Emp is lynched after the mayoral election...we might be killing a dt... edit: Well, our mayor might be. | ||
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90. ~OpZ~ Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:24 ~OpZ~ wrote: But like you said...If we follow that definition strictly then Mayor can be stopped from using his double lynches....So if Pardoner's pardon can be stopped then why shouldn't the Mayor's double lynch be stopped too? Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:Also...In memory of Live2Win last game.....I am changing my vote from Fusion (Even tho I still want him mayor, but her has no chance) to Emp, because I don't want another L2W fiasco where we get another role killed because we don't believe anyone. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 20 2008 00:19 ~OpZ~ wrote:Mafia can stop double lynches?!?!?! Lord plz Save Us!! Posted in night7/main_page.052 On March 20 2008 00:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:No I disagree. If Emp is pardoner he should be able to pardon, as he might be detective....and be more inclined to know who is mafioso Posted in night7/main_page.074 On March 20 2008 22:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep; Guard me Jesus through the night, And wake me with the morning light. Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 01:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know....Buuuut it sounds better to be guarded through the night and wake up tot he morning light. Some people teach it this way to not sound so morbid...And I chose it, because I'd rather be alive in the morning... Lol Also...All this anti Ace sentiment...I am suspecting everyone that suddenly jumped on a band wagon against him. Complaining about our mayor not being lucky with his idea? Big freakin deal. We can't change it, get over it, he made a mistake JUST BECAUSE he wasn't lucky. A mayor is better than no mayor, so stop trying to get people against him. Mafia Scum Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:Whoa wait, a thought just occurred to me....If we have all detectives watching Ace... Can the suicide bomber hit Ace even with body guard protection or not? Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ok...I knew the question was asked earlier...I just...didn't feel like sifting through 70 pages... Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 01:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:Wow...Attack me again why don't you? The special role was updated AFTER the question was posed. Just like Saboteur was updated after the question for it was asked. Shit qrs, quit trying to start shit. Posted in night7/main_page.076 On March 21 2008 02:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: Yea...The last Edit was yesterday...What does that have to do with anything? It will be edited a lot more times too. Now I'm done saying stuff to you in the thread, you have no need to reply to this in this thread, so if you would like to continue arguing the point I was trying to make by stating if it wasn't like that (suicide worked through BG's), then he could just bomb the mayor, get all 4 detectives, and call it a night, eh? Now plz...If you want to call me an idiot, lets take it to PM's and stop cluttering the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:40 ~OpZ~ wrote: Active in PM's huh? Who can verify your activity? Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 10:45 ~OpZ~ wrote: But I don't believe you can hide your voting power. You can't spread your votes out so your vote would always be higher than other townies IF he wasn't roleblocked, meaning he would actually be roleblocked WITHOUT a DT confirming this would show he was targeted by a mafia member. So we wouldn't need a DT to confirm mafia targeted him, which would imply his innocence also. I believe Ace now. 100%. In day, when he votes we will see him only having 1 vote and that should show us his true face regardless of a DT stepping forward. Thank you Saboteur. Edit: (Clarity) Just to clarify, and make what I said more easily understood. He was roleblocked so he loses his extra votes which are used whether he wants to or not, I think that much is true atleast (that this is used regardless of him wanting to), and his double lynch, which he chooses to use, as opposed to being forced to. So seeing as he doesn't get 6 votes on whoever he votes for, that will be proof he was roleblocked. Posted in night7/main_page.084 On March 21 2008 11:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: Edited the post to clarify what I meant...Basically...Day 2 he's roleblocked, so we will know if he is because we will see how many votes he gets when he votes. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: My ninja edit>>> Bob's post...buuuuut I still think more people will listen to him ;__; Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:23 ~OpZ~ wrote: No...I trust him because his plan. The roleblock is just further proof that he is Townie aligned. I understand they can MOST LIKELY roleblock each other, BUT my point is just saying after no detective posts tomorrow and Ace only has 1 vote, we will see a townie we can trust 100%. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 11:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:100% After Day Starts...Lol Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:08 ~OpZ~ wrote: Right to vote isn't affected, meaning he can't stop him from voting...But are we sure the number of votes he gets isn't? Ace said himself he will be limited to only one vote tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.085 On March 21 2008 12:17 ~OpZ~ wrote:Lol...Believe Emp when he says it...his clues couldn't of been anymore obvious...all about higher powers and what not... Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Actually.....Lol Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:32 ~OpZ~ wrote:wurm and bumatlarge, most epic posts ever...Lol...I looked at the times too before reading bums last post and laughed. Figured one was copying the other. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 00:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:Okay...I am still suspecting Caller now. The cell phone clue, bringing up him trying to call and not get through because it won't work. Maybe the cell phone was just brought up to bring it in, and it not working was part of the story? The other part, eating lead. Caller's quote has a list of edibles (I think, don't feel like hunting his quote as he doesn't post in the thread much, which I believe is him trying to lay low, and it ends with lead. Still trying to decipher some more clues. Posted in night7/main_page.098 On March 23 2008 01:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:Buck Shot = Lead Shot... And also, before you eat me up about the post I made suspecting caller, read the whole thing. "The cell phone use might just be part of the story?" Yes, I posted that with it. So no need to post telling me "It might just be part of the story" because I've already said I'm aware of that. The only reasons I'm so willing to suspect caller, he was in last game and showed a large amount of activity, this game his activity has went down, the cell phone use, the eating lead references, and the small rocks in his quote. Posted in night7/main_page.099 On March 23 2008 01:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...And I realize that the swooping down clue can point at me scorch. I just noticed it after I read your post a while back...It made me bust out laughing cuz that is so how a scourge would attack and imagining a human doing it lolololol. Sadly, me assuring anyone I'm not Mafia would not clear my name, SO I was going to ignore the post, but I figured that too would make me look suspicious, if not even more so. So, being unaware of what I should do, I'm just going to post I saw it. =D Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 21:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:I was just assuming they decided who to hit, then messaged the list... Posted in night7/main_page.106 On March 23 2008 23:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Extremely weak. I still think Ghar is the best vote. I wasn't bandwagoning until I saw that image...Lol which I consider a pretty important find... Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:"That would be stupid to extend since this is a 48h circle, why giving an extra day because the town isnt ready ? rofl. the only valid reason for extending would be : chuiu not able to (holiday)" I would like to call more attention to this post. It was made by heros)pink Wtf man, wtf. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Honestly Pinkie, you said it so hateful like the idea disgusted you. If you are townie aligned, you would rather more time. Fair or not, you also argued it is Easter weekend, so people might not be able to be here, SO then you counter your own argument to say don't give more time? Suspicious behavior. Very. Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:I just chase you around Falcynn...Lol... Posted in night7/main_page.118 On March 24 2008 12:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:If we had Village Idiot as a role, I'd guess it was Pinkie. Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:35 ~OpZ~ wrote: I was about to mention SEN's minerals ;>> Posted in night7/main_page.119 On March 24 2008 12:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:Damn Quebecians or whatever they are Posted in night7/main_page.121 Posted in night7/main_page.123 Posted in night7/main_page.123 On March 24 2008 23:48 ~OpZ~ wrote: Lol...Why don't we link the tactics in attack to you, I don't know. But I'ma look at it now. I'm hardly worth it, but let them. Seriously, use a Jack's role check on me. It'd be a waste of time tho... Posted in night7/main_page.126 On March 25 2008 02:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:No...Mr. Blonde didn't attack like a dragon...He attacked like a scourge, just didn't blow himself up like one... Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes, but causing confusion is one thing...Posing and shortening the list of suspects the clues point at to 5 instead of 120+ are two extremely different things. Now... I do realize a way Chuiu could...I guess...Balance a near fool proof strategy...He could not disclose how many of whatever roles are playing are in the game and we wouldn't be sure people are lieing or not. Posted in night7/main_page.127 On March 25 2008 03:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:How the hell am I giving them a list...Thats more like...Giving them a list of WHO not to target... Posted in night7/main_page.128 On March 25 2008 04:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oi....I hate being told what to do like that. Granted, it is a good way to catch the mafia... Posted in night7/main_page.129 On March 25 2008 06:06 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oh I love Pen island! Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 13:01 ~OpZ~ wrote:I've suspected Wurm for a good minute...Dunno why tho...he just hasn't posted, but him abstaining once Ace had PROVEN Mandalor.... Posted in night7/main_page.140 On March 26 2008 05:06 ~OpZ~ wrote:Look at it like this guys... Wurm can't go ANYWHERE... I'm pming this to Ace...nvm... Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:Aceeeeeee what are your notes on me! Lol...and the first impression...xD Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...Damn...Lol...I didn't post during the mayoral elections except in support of Emp... =/ Now I feel left out ;-; Posted in night7/main_page.141 On March 26 2008 11:18 ~OpZ~ wrote: New people shouldn't be voting for lynching you and Ace so you should have 3 and 4 votes each, so you would only need on DT check for you and him. But the other ones you'd need them. Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 15:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:sit lose then Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 01:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Kiwi? ;-; I feel confused.... Also...Seriously....Looking at Ace's plan and saying it's retarded or saying he's not confirmed...Ask Chuiu if Mafia's roles get told when you ask about someones role, and you tell us what he says. Then ask yourself: Do you feel lucky? Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ow.... Oh...So guess what Alethios....Chuiu just proved your theory entirely false...Seeing as Mafia is considered a role...Just as TOWNIE is considered a role.... So I'd assume you are now a suspect. Atleast...yea... Posted in night7/main_page.149 On March 27 2008 12:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:106-BuGzlToOnl Display Name : BuGzlToOnl Birthday : February 12, 1988 Country : United States Joined : Tuesday, 28th of November 2006 Quote : “When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” - Jimi Hendrix "As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him" Mafioso? ;>_> Posted in night7/main_page.149 Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:It is most certainly Bum AND what about...The BugZ and Music connection?! Posted in night7/main_page.150 Posted in night7/main_page.150 On March 27 2008 12:23 ~OpZ~ wrote:http://teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=BuGzlToOnl Bugz quote is Hendrix Posted in night7/main_page.170 On March 29 2008 03:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:Hey...More attention on Queasy plz Posted in night7/main_page.177 Posted in night7/main_page.178 Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:Aw fuck....two detectives...One night...fuck...god damn.... Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 00:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:.....Well...Safe to say arraav is mafia...Lol.... atleast, if any of those people were in the channel when he came on it. Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yea...But the lists might have two different mafioso...Useless might be mafia on Ghar and Chez or fusion can be mafia on the other (Or you yourself for the Ghar list...) Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:31 ~OpZ~ wrote: No need to trust Ace...Trust New104's question to Chuiu before Night ended. He asked for the number of Mafia that voted for Ace. It was either it turned up empty, no Mafia, or it turned up one, and my name had just been added to the list right before the vote ended. So if no Mafia, or One mafia + 1 more Char added to the original list, I'm a confirmed townie, or special role aligned with town. =D Posted in night7/main_page.187 On April 05 2008 07:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:GG useless? Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:24 ~OpZ~ wrote:I believe LostYourSkills to be Mafia, along with Energies, and I still suspect Ninja4Ever. I'm still in doubt as to whether the specific names refer to specific people. I suspect BlindAlbino too, but as I don't think there has been anything relating to being blind, except the darkness of the house in day 2 when Mynock went into the room with the lamp off...(edit) Mr. Blonde was also the one in the dark room, blonde = albino, dark room = blind... I I highly suspect Blind Albino... Around now is when the Mafia should be speaking more, and he has been posting more.... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 04:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:I would kinda like Ace to atleast vote... Chuiu you also put me down as the wrong vote, I voted for Energies... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 05:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:Yes and no...The dude running the mafia last game didn't post much...if at all...kinda like you lol... Posted in night7/main_page.190 On April 07 2008 06:31 ~OpZ~ wrote:I've been active...despite posting a lot...Whenever I say anything it isn't really listened to... I say vote for Blind Albino Posted in night7/main_page.190 Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: That's implying the code names have nothing to do with the person and that it's the same person every time for each code name. And how did he come up with the code names for each person... Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 15:19 ~OpZ~ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albino#Types_of_human_albinism Check it, types of albinos can have blonde hair to red hair..... Posted in night7/main_page.192 On April 08 2008 00:59 ~OpZ~ wrote: wtf...have you even posted in this thread before? Posted in night7/main_page.192 Posted in night7/main_page.193 On April 08 2008 04:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:...Caller is mafia...Why is he still alive... So many clues...and no one votes for him... Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:49 ~OpZ~ wrote: The fact that you are so quiet in this thread and only post when accused, yet manage to vote every vote I think is good enough. The rock throwing clue is another one. Failure of phones. And of course the lead repetitions... Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 14:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:Seriously....Am I the only one noticing Caller only posts when he's accused of being Mafia? How can he be so active, YET doesn't post at all OTHER than when he's accused? is that not suspicious in the least? Seriously... Posted in night7/main_page.195 On April 09 2008 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote: My post was more to gauge your reaction about how I knew you'd come out of no where. I even pm'd somebody before I did it just to show them how you would magically appear. For not being active you manage to see EVERY time I call you a mafioso.... Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 16:57 ~OpZ~ wrote: Holy fuck...Fusions on a roll...A rick roll. Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 09 2008 16:59 ~OpZ~ wrote: Hard to do without many detectives...I suspect you now for arguing so stupidly against fusions golden post... Posted in night7/main_page.202 Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:Well I apologize to Caller...As I thought he was mafia...but turned out to be a BG... And...I'm not confirmed innocent no more...But...I am Townie... And I'm very curious as to how people come out of hiding when they are accused of being mafia... Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:15 ~OpZ~ wrote: Shallow....This is pretty damning in my opinion...I imagine Chuiu knows how to spell straight... Edit: Confirmation on you knowing how to spell straight Chuiu? I still say vote for GeneralStan. Posted in night7/main_page.204 On April 11 2008 08:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: I believe Fusion... I think his suspect list (edit) and clue interpretations (/edit) should be reposted...People need to see it...I will be voting for General Stan... But Fusion why are you voting for Ace? Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 08:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: So is Mynock's death...Strait is used instead of Straight...And the thing is...Anything said during night could be a clue.... And just because a line referring to Queasy killing someone was used doesn't mean it couldn't be a clue..... Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 08:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:"Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving strait into Mynock." He still misspelled the word straight and put strait there... So either Chuiu doesn't know how to spell straight...OR...He purposely spelled it strait... Maybe Chuiu can confirm that he can't spell straight correctly... Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: I dunno....Has Camlito ever posted in the thread yet comes back to defend iMderek and alventine....Honestly I suspect Alventine some what...for being like the hero of last game. A martyr. Being in a trusted position but against the town...But if thats based on that, then it could be Ace or our Pardoner, but I believe Ace to be innocent.... Oh...Clues are hard to make on people who have no information in their profile...Like Alventine... Personally I think Chuiu should only allow people with a pic, and sig, to play in the game... Posted in night7/main_page.212 On April 12 2008 00:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:I think the mafia member is imderek... Hamlet quote, Sword fight in Hamlet. I don't believe he's posted much...but has been voting. The story of Hamlet revolves around change, treachery, murder. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership" Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: What are the odds hot shot is mafia? He only smiles in the dark... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:40 ~OpZ~ wrote:Why are we not going after General Stan? Fusion all but read his role pm... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 00:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Just because names are used doesn't mean they all point to the same person...just the fact that swords were used could point to him (or others). What do you need? A "To be, or Not to be" in one of the day posts...? As Fusion said, is it confirmed that they every clue in that persons name section points directly to the name used? Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 09:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: I had already said I was no longer confirmed innocent a while ago...despite being innocent... Posted in night7/main_page.213 On April 12 2008 09:21 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oi...Don't vote me before Useless...I'm seriously townie....o_o.... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote: My reasons better...Darkive or w/e his name is death on a list with 1 mafia in which Eti307 also voted for... edit: New's list Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:True...anyway it goes, I'm innocent...hmm... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:Ah shit...I looked at what ace said and confused myself...disregard what I said... Posted in night7/main_page.217 On April 13 2008 06:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: I know...I was arguing for Eti...but...Within reason...I can't prove him innocent, and don't really care, as I am innocent. Posted in night7/main_page.226 On April 15 2008 09:08 ~OpZ~ wrote: WOW WE MISSED THIS?! HOW THE FUCK...HE KNEW CALLER WAS BG?! heeeeeeeeelllllllllllllloooo obvious mafia HOW can someone SEEM BG from posts? Posted in night7/main_page.233 On April 16 2008 11:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:For somereason...I think that Chainsaw is important ;>> Posted in night7/main_page.240 On April 18 2008 00:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:Hey....Chuiu how is the kidney stone man? The corn tea work any? Hope its better....Let us know...we all appreciate what you are doing, even though we don't say that much =P Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:Is the medic still informed if he blocked a hit, even if the person hit isn't? (I know he isn't if he's killed, but is the medic still informed in that situation?) Posted in night7/main_page.243 On April 19 2008 01:53 ~OpZ~ wrote: We all must remember...Chuiu makes clues based on his analysis of our names and objects in our profile...Not on the thoughts we put behind our names... Like...with my name... OpZ came from, Covert_Ops, Covert Operations. Names I played with back when I played Snipers maps regularly on b.net. Which I related to sneaking and sniping...Which I don't know if Chuiu would know that...Shit...Cuz the name could be taken other ways... @_@ So it could very well be the female villain but I doubt it...Not a very strong link there plexa...I don't know if I really like the DrDragoon one either, could you repost your analysis on him where the clues are shown (he very well could be it, I just haven't been to sure ever since you mentioned it just because I figured it to be a stretch...He did sound very caveman like with the using a rock...)...and the Ninja4eva one could point at G.s)naruto...He hasn't been saying much lately...But neither has ninja...Not sure how much I feel about SMB either as California mountain snake... I do like the thing you said about clazziquai though...It sounded pretty convincing... Edit: Added the quote... Posted in night7/main_page.244 Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 07:01 ~OpZ~ wrote:Oh...True...Ok... Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 21 2008 04:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:No night time analysis tonight? Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 00:52 ~OpZ~ wrote: You don't get it. If L alone protects Plexa, and L is mafia, if Plexa isn't hit...L must be mafia. (Plexa's been hit, what every night for 2 or 3 nights?) And if Plexa is hit and killed, first we see if we can reconstruct the kill list, and then if 6 others died (or other variations involving medic saves), and plexa died...L would be proven mafia...even though he kinda is... Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 11:43 ~OpZ~ wrote:Suspect wise... How do you feel about amber[Light] Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 07:37 ~OpZ~ wrote: I just wanted to see L spam "OMG HE'S MAFIAAAAAAAAA" ;-; Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 07:57 ~OpZ~ wrote: I vote for fusionsdf Good with his buddy. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 19 2008 23:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:I change my vote from Fusion to Empyrean In Memory Of Live2Win. We doubted his role last game....and yea...we all know what happened Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 11:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:I Vote For Ghar Until Ace says otherwise. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 11:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:I change my vote from Ghar to Mandalor Posted in night7/vote3_page.005 On March 28 2008 17:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for Bumatlarge and Queasy Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 29 2008 13:18 ~OpZ~ wrote:I want to change my first vote from bumatlarge to Ghar and my second from queasy to Ace Sry...Chuiu Posted in night7/vote4_page.002 On April 05 2008 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for Energies Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 04:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Chuiu...My vote was for Energies not TranceStorm Posted in night7/vote5_page.003 On April 12 2008 00:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:...I guess....I'll vote for some of them... I vote for Evil monkey and Siefo Despite it being band wagony...Lol... Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote: me vote crazie-penguin Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 05:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:Vote Count: L - 9 (10 counting shallow) HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 37 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 24 2008 11:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:I vote for L and ulszz | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [498] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.024 On March 18 2008 21:19 498 wrote:I say you lynch 498, he is full of deceit. + Show Spoiler [BluzMan] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:12 BluzMan wrote:A quick suggestion: Since I've already played mafia on a forum that excels at this (20+ seasons), it's really better to make a separate thread for each day and each voting. Close treads after day/voting ends, it's in fact easier to find them in the closed forum than in general, besides, no mess ups. + Show Spoiler [Chuiu] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 13:58 Chuiu wrote: Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town, each day will reveal clues pointing to such individuals allowing the town to analyze them and point fingers all they want. Its much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. As many people sign up as you want and the game is balanced between a group of mafia and a large town with a variety of roles. This mafia game works slightly different than the normal one (read: Mafia), so I'll explain it a bit more. Once everyone who wishes to play is signed up a mayor will be elected. The mayor himself has a special role but once he's elected he will have bodyguards (depending on the number of people in the game) keeping him from dying at night. During the night mafia will collectively decide on and send in their hits to me, who they want dead (its a good idea to discuss them during day so you know ahead of time). Any player with a special role that can act during night must PM me their wishes each night. During the day you will see the bloody death of many of your friends with a handful of clues left behind. Clues can be taken from anywhere, so long as I see it relating to the person they are intended for. This means posts, names, sigs, profiles, blogs, things related to names, etc. Any player with a special role that can act during day must PM it to me so I can set it in motion. The whole town, including the mafia, will meet and discuss this turn of events and everyone will vote for who they want lynched that day. If the mafia at any time outnumber the townspeople they win the game. The goal for the townspeople is to lynch all the members of the mafia by interpreting clues and voting for them during the day. The goal of the mafia, of course, is to kill the townspeople with murderous precision. This round I will attempt to make more fast paced. Each day or night will last a fixed 48 hours, but there is no guarantee life won't interfere (gimme a break, I work and go to school just like most of you guys). 48 hours is a small amount of time to wait, really, and I feel its plenty of time for people to catch up on the thread and make sound decisions. Rules: (they are all subject to change before the start of the game!) General game rules: 1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again. 2. Try to keep posting mafia game related, the thread gets hard to read and annoying when there are 12 posts of spam per 1 post of actual content. 3. New rule, you must vote. Whether its 'I abstain from voting' or not you must cast a vote. Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. Signups: PM me or post here. If I miss or forget your name politely remind me, this game gets overwhelming sometimes. Remember what clues are based off of. If you don't have much information on the site or relating to you for me to access then don't blame me if people easily find out who you are by my clues. The more the merrier also, sign up, the game doesn't take much time to play, just read and post once every couple days and there is no max number of players that can participate. If you wanted to be signed up and I missed you for some reason, please let me know. If you didn't want to be signed up and I forgot to remove your name or know someone who did want to be removed, please let me know - Dapperdan, a mafia game veteran, has volunteered to help me run this game. The Town (names will be marked according to role and stroked out if a player is dead or revealed) 1. ShaLLoW[baY] 2. SoMuchBetter 3. Eti307 4. HotZhot 5. 6. clazziquai 7. Dr.Dragoon 8. CDRdude 9. So no fek 10. Fen 11. ieatkids5 12. Wizard 13. 14. imDerek 15. 16. Puosu 17. randombum (Pardoner) 18. 19. 20. 21. Alethios 22. infinity21 23. 24. Alventenie 25. 26. 27. nemY 28. ZBiR 29. SiZ.FaNtAsY 30. 31. Energies 32. 33. Amber[LighT] 34. RtS)Night[Mare 35. Vharox 36. Unforgiven_ve 37. fgsvsd 38. KF91 39. Romance_us 40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT 42. SonuvBob 43. NatsuTerran 44. str 45. smurfingchobo 46. 47. Kuja900 48. qrs 49. GranDim 50. Artanis[Xp] 51. araav 52. iNfuNdiBuLuM 53. Ace (Mayor) 54. MTF 55. MoRe_mInErAls 56. Camlito 57. LoStYouRSkiLLS 58. Lysithea 59. fanatacist 60. SoleSteeler 61. 62. 63. HeRoS)Pink 64. KorvspaD 65. 66. 67. 0cz3c 68. 69. 70. Bockit 71. GeneralStan 72. Ziel 73. Hollander 74. Supah 75. 76. jtan 77. 78. BWdero 79. AcrossFiveJulys 80. 81. 82. Ninja4ever. 83. 84. 85. ahrara_ 86. 87. Pangolin 88. Naib 89. butidigress 90. ~OpZ~ 91. Scorch 92. Jimtudor 93. spoinka 94. unsoundlogic 95. 96. 97. suresh0t 98. 99. DamageControL 100. omfghi2u2 101. RowdierBob 102. 103. SpiritoftheTuna 104. AmorVincitOmnia 105. Wysp 106. BuGzlToOnl 107. GrayArea 108. 109. 110. 111. 112. 113. DTDominion 114. zeks 115. 116. Last Romantic 117. 118. Plexa 119. 120. 121. 122. 123. 124. 125. 126. 127. 128. 129. 130. rpf Wait list: CubEdIn, Cube, Kwidowmaker, [GiTM]-Ace, atmablade, ydg, 70 of 110 Townies alive. (including special town-aligned roles. IE, all non-mafia.) Mafia killing power formula this round: Max 9, Min 3. Mafia / 2 = killing power per night. (rounded down) 13 of 20 Mafia alive. (Current night killing power: 6) 1 of 1 Saboteur alive. 0 of 1 Suicide Bomber alive. Mayor is elected. (3 double lynches remaining, voting power of 6) Pardoner is elected. (6 pardons remaining) 2 of 6 Bodyguards alive. 2 of 4 Vigilante alive. 0 of 4 Detective alive. 7 of 7 Veteran alive. 4 of 7 Paramedic alive. 0 of 2 Mad Hatter alive. 0 of 2 Jack alive. Roles (you will randomly be given a role via PM once the game starts!) The Town: Towny - You have no special powers! All you can do is participate in the game and vote. Mayor - The mayor, elected at the start of the game, has numerous roles. His special abilities are: increased vote count (depending on the number of people in the game), ability to declare X double lynches anytime during the game (must notify me night before or early on in the day so voting is arranged accordingly), cannot be killed during night while his bodyguard(s) are alive, and has the super special ability to lynch whoever he chooses right after being elected. Only the mayor knows who the bodyguards are. When double lynches are in effect each player gets two vote on two different people. Pardoner - As a check and balance to the Mayor, the pardoner is the runner up to the mayor. He has the protection of the very same bodyguards as the Mayor and remains invincible at night also. His special ability, however, is to pardon up to X people from being lynched at any time during the course of the game. He must notify me while voting is coming to a close (you'll usually be able to tell who is going to get lynched towards the end of voting) or right after I have ended it. I will wait a bit between votes being tallied and the shift into night when people are lynched so you will also have time then to notify me. The pardoner may not pardon himself and he may not pardon more than one person per day. Bodyguard - Random townies will receive the role of bodyguard once the mayor and pardoner have been elected. The mayor alone will know who these people are. The bodyguard cannot be a mafia or special role, he can only be a regular towny. Vigilante - You have the ability to kill up to two people of your choice at any night phase in the game. You cannot use both at once and may wait to use them whenever you feel like. A clue will be left behind that points to you for the mafia (or the town) to interpret. You must also wait until the second night of the game to act. If your hits ever overlap with a mafia hit I will cancel it and notify you the following day and you will be able to use it again. If your hit overlaps with another Vigilante I will cancel all other hits but the first one and will notify anyone who's hit didn't go through the following day and you will be able to use it again. You will not be told if it was mafia or murderer that caused your hit to be canceled. Detective - You have three abilities you may use. You have the ability to ask me whether or not a specific clue points to a specific person and get a yes/no answer. You have the ability to, twice a game, ask me what role a specific person has. And for the last ability you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person (cannot use this on mayor election). You may only use one ability per day/night cycle. Veteran - You've been around the block a few times and know how to escape an attack on your life. But for how long? The veteran gets three night lives, meaning he must be hit by three attackers to kill him (much like having two paramedics watching over you, except you lose one life if you incur one attack). If a paramedic is protecting you you will not lose a life for the hit the paramedic protects. If you incur a hit I will notify you via PM the following day. Paramedic - You have the ability to watch one other player during night, which you must tell me about before the end of night (preferably before night even starts). You may choose not to use this ability also. When a player is watched he cannot die unless the number of people attacking him outnumbers the number of people watching him or his night lives. In other words if two mafia attack a person being watched by one paramedic, the person will die. A clue will not be left behind if he is saved, the town won't know who was saved, but I will let the Paramedic and the person saved know if they were targeted and saved. Mad Hatter - May lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 3). If he is killed he will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). He may remove them from players at any time in the game to get them back but if a player is killed with one on them while the Mad Hatter is still alive he loses that bomb. Jack - Of all trades, master of none. You may use up to six abilities from other roles in the game however you are restricted to the very same rules that apply to them when you use them. You may not use the same role in two consecutive day/night cycles in a row. The following roles you may use are: Vigilante, Detective, Paramedic, and Veteran. You may not use two in one day (ie: Detective during day, Paramedic during night). The Mafia: Mafia - Your Don wishes nothing but to take over the world, but first you must take care of your home town! You will know who your fellow mafia members are and get the ability to kill townies each night. You may not target mafia members, however. Mafia killing power will be decided once signups are closed. Saboteur - The saboteur is a special mafia role, he may disable one players abilities once a day/night cycle (excluding the right to vote). Meaning he tells me this before day starts and I disable that player from using their special role the following day and night. You may not use this on the mayor election lynch and only the player whose abilities are disabled will be informed of the action. You may not use this role on the same person two consecutive day/nights in a row. Suicide Bomber: Has the ability to suicide into a person killing them regardless of whether or not they are a Veteran or protected by a Paramedic (Mayor and Pardoner are still protected from this hit if Bodyguards are alive). If there are Paramedics protecting the targeted person and/or the Suicide Bomber then they die as well. There are many roles not listed that may be used in future mafias, but for right now this is what we're working with. Credit goes out to: Mini Moose 2707, DapperDan2006, Toa, and everyone else who has ever run a game of mafia. The last round of Team Liquid Mafia: http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66251 What your role PM's should look like: Links to important posts: Signup Confirmations Day 1 - Votes - Night Day 2 - Votes - Night Day 3 - Votes* - Night Day 4 - Votes - Night Day 5 - Votes* - Night Day 6 - Votes - Night Day 7 - Votes* - Night * Denotes days with a double lynch. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:01 Chuiu wrote:Please note some rules have changed and some have been added. Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:03 Chuiu wrote:Please check to see if you're already on the list before asking to be signed up. Likewise please let me know if you want off the list if you are. EDIT: I wont be updating the list for a bit, expect the game to start on Sunday also. Time to unlock more ssbb characters... Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote:I gotta repeat this before I go to bed because I'm still seeing it. Please don't ask to be signed up if you already are! I never thought I would have to say that. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 13:59 Chuiu wrote: a. No problem, we can do that via blogs. b. I plan on replacing inactive players with people on the wait list and/or kill off inactive players and giving their special roles to active players. I would probably end up banning the inactive person from future games. Also, this may be the last game for a while we play with tons of people. I'm probably going to make a cap after this game and let the first say 40 or so players who sign up get into the next. Signups for that one obviously aren't open so don't even mention it yet. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 05:31 Chuiu wrote: Yes it can, but bodyguard protection will keep them alive. They're a part of the mafia team so they add to the kill count. So in a way, yes, but remember that the mafia work as a group to come up with their kill list. He gets the bomb back. I will never add a rule preventing people from editing their posts. But I also don't want to see people editing them 1 or 2 days after posting. That is a good idea, I'm going to do something along the lines of that though... Only DapperDan did the KF91 robot clues, I had actual clues pointing to his name and birthday that were really obvious. I'm not going to do separate threads for each day, I don't want to and I don't want other people to keep track of several different threads and be moving around a lot. I will have a separate thread for voting thought, I like that idea. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 05:38 Chuiu wrote:Signups are closed! Sorry if you didn't make it in. If you signed up and I didn't add you to the list PM me and link me to your post so I can confirm you did sign up before I closed signups. PM me if you want to be on the wait list, this will not sign you up for next game, however, because next games format will be much different. The wait list is for people to be subbed in for inactive players. If you are on it you will get to replace an inactive player and get his role as the game progresses. ALSO: I want people to confirm they want to play the game in the following blog: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68059 All you have to do is make a post there, nothing more. Just a quick 1 second post. FINALLY The game will start tomorrow evening. Roles will be sent out and day will be posted and mayor election will start. Remember you do not lynch people the first day, the elected mayor does. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 08:16 Chuiu wrote:Actually its been a moderator changing the title every time because I cannot. I'll see if I can get one to change it for me. Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 13:37 Chuiu wrote:93 people have confirmed so far. Looks like this will be a big game of mafia after all! Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 03:01 Chuiu wrote:People have about 10 more hours before I send out roles and make the day post. EDIT: Updated count is 113 Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:13 Chuiu wrote: Ah sorry, that was taken from a possible detective role that had 3 abilities, I forgot to edit that sentence. For the first question its a simple yes/no answer and for the second question you will be told the role of that person. Yes, Jack only gets veteran for the day/night he wishes to use it. I've decided to extend the confirmations one more day to account for people being gone during the weekend and the fact I never said I would do this until the last minute. The link, again, is here: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=68059 All you have to do is post and you're in. I will hand out roles and post day on monday. EDIT: The count is 119 also. Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 17 2008 12:21 Chuiu wrote:Your role: Town Psycho. Go insane with it. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:06 Chuiu wrote: Thats one of the things I actually respect about the company, they won't release a game until its done. He re-gains lost lives. Lol, please don't! I stay up very late and work pretty long on the day posts sometimes and theres no telling how long it will take for me to write one up since they're all very different many times with unique clues (though many times not). Just get some sleep and hope its there by morning. Side note, I'm working on roles right now ... I just wish I would have gotten to it earlier because DapperDan isn't here and I need to talk to him about it. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 13:39 Chuiu wrote:Roles done, going to start writing day post in a minute here. You can see how many of each role are in the game from day post right now. Edit: You'll know when I'm about to post day when you see your role come in. Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:00 Chuiu wrote:I live in central time zone. Its 12am for me right now. :o Posted in night7/main_page.017 On March 18 2008 14:55 Chuiu wrote: 20. Yes, already answered this. The mafia will know who they are once I start the game. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote:Roles have been sent out and I hope someone with the capabilities of adding CC to the private message system reads this. If you did not get a role or got two different roles please let me know via PM so I can fix it. God forbid I make one mistake in 130 people. Posted in night7/main_page.018 On March 18 2008 15:41 Chuiu wrote: The bitter truth set in their gut as they both stared down their ex-brethren. Chuiu and DapperDan were betrayed by their own comrades, and now their lives hanged on the balance. Eddie stood in front of them, gun pointing to Chuiu, ready to shoot at a moments notice. "We don't like the way you're running things, and its time for change, either you submit and follow my leadership or you get to taste lead for dinner". Chuiu's stomach sunk, he couldn't follow these blood thirsty mongrels and there was no way he could get out of this alive. DapperDan made the first move, however. "Just let us go, you can run things however you please once we're gone" he said, and with that turned to the nearest exit. A few paces and he thought he was home free but Joe called out "Stop him! You heard Eddie, either you're with us or you're permanently not, make your choice now!". DapperDan flinched at the thought, he gauged the distance to the door and what he would need to do to get there. Eight people in his way, chances weren't good. He took them anyway. Grabbing Sidewinders arm, he flung him towards the group ahead of him. Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable. Great, DapperDan thought, as Sidewinder knocked over Mr. Red and Mr. Black. He jumped through the opening towards the door and was almost home free when he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed. He rammed into DapperDan knocking him to the ground. King Brown Snake stepped up to him as DapperDan started getting up. He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again. He almost made it out until finally someone pumped DapperDan's back full of lead. Aghast but ready Chuiu took the opportunity while everyones attention was diverted. He sprinted to the window to his right and broke through it, knowing the risks and the height to the ground he took his chances with a roll landing to break the fall. Success, he was almost free. He quickly ran through the yard towards his car parked out front but The Wolf and Taipan Snake had followed his near suicidal jump and were on him quick. Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time. The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand" as he pulled out a gun and made his mark on Chuiu's head. Solemn but seeing a promising future the two returned to the room where Eddie and Joe were starting to lay out plans. Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!". "Yes, but lets not be hasty, we should take care when proceeding" commented Mr. Pink as he began going over the plans. Mr. Blue got in the last word, before they finished up their little meeting, and said "Lets just hope the right mayor gets elected, that would speed things up as the town declares martial law." They all nodded in agreement, but no one knew how the elections tomorrow would turn out. [noCluesArea] Its time to elect a mayor and a pardoner. When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68177 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. To everyone running for mayor, when it looks like you're going to win I would like you to write up a short inaugural speech to be given in the night post after the election. Short as in a small paragraph like this one. And with that ... good luck and have fun everyone! Posted in night7/main_page.019 On March 18 2008 16:05 Chuiu wrote:AH! I just made a minor grammatical correction to my post. "He made him face to face halfway pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again." to "He met him face to face halfway and pushed King Brown Snake out of the way as he proceeded to the door again." I've never been good at proof reading my own stuff. Posted in night7/main_page.048 On March 19 2008 13:40 Chuiu wrote: As long as he's not using 'scum' and '<->' ten times a post... (seriously though <-> started to annoy the fuck out of me) Posted in night7/main_page.049 On March 19 2008 13:58 Chuiu wrote: Combine the count between them and it would get close to 10 many times. Posted in night7/main_page.051 On March 19 2008 23:53 Chuiu wrote:They can be. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 06:56 Chuiu wrote: Thanks for clearing that up, I was waiting for you to post before I made any action against you. I believe you but for the sake of the other players if at any time I think you and chezinu are the same person I will not hesitate from removing you from the game. Please post that sort of stuff in this thread, that is what this thread is for after all. It doesn't matter how long your post is it still belongs here. As for Falcynn's blog I have nothing against this, he is only collecting information and organizing it into an easy to read list. But please keep your comments about clues and such in this thread for the benefit of all players. Now as for the Saboteur role, I have decided to change it so that the Saboteur cannot use the role block on the same person two day/nights in a row. It never dawned on me that the mayor/pardoner role would be targeted with it and keeping one or the other from using their role the whole game would ruin the purpose of the way they are designed. Night will start in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:02 Chuiu wrote:Also, and I cannot believe people are still doing this so I'm going to use the bold red text once again to try to get their attention: I will not count your votes if you don't make them in the vote thread. It can be found here: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68177 Please read the voting rules before making a vote and please remember that you MUST vote this game or you will be replaced by other players due to inactivity. An abstain from voting counts as a vote, but you must declare that you abstain from voting. Yeah I was just about to get started on that. Posted in night7/main_page.057 On March 20 2008 07:15 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 4 MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie Camlito Energies BlindAlbino randombum - 22 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 96 of 130 possible voters accounted for. A final vote count will be made in a few hours and then I will move to night soon after that. Mayor candidates, have your person-to-lynch and inaugural speech ready for this evening. PM it to me now if you like. Also I think I forgot to mention it this round but your runner up (to be pardoner) cannot be lynched by you. Posted in night7/main_page.061 On March 20 2008 12:04 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Final Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 3 MoRe_mInErAls wurm Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ bumatlarge Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ NeaX goldenkrnboi Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 Alventenie Camlito Energies Mandalor SonuvBob AcrossFiveJulys LucasWoJ randombum - 28 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT French_Toast Unforgiven_ve 0cz3c BlindAlbino clazziquai Queasy fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 Siefu fusionsdf ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 3 RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 99 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night in approximately half an hour. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 Chuiu wrote:Meh if Ace doesn't respond soon I might just kill off a random person for him. Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:20 Chuiu wrote:OR MAYBE RANDOMBUM WOULD LIKE TO BE MAYOR? Posted in night7/main_page.062 On March 20 2008 12:34 Chuiu wrote:Ace pretty much told me he would be ready 3 hours ago. I'm going to give him another half hour or so before I decide what to do. He should have sent all that shit in 5 hours ago when I basically asked him to in the thread. Posted in night7/main_page.064 On March 20 2008 13:36 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] As the election came to a close two bodies were found in the town square of Liquidia. The town was shocked at the sight of two respected members of the town not only being found to be guilty of many things but to be dead also. Before anything, Ace gave his speech: "Thanks for giving me a chance to lead this town to victory. I'm sure that my plan and other strategies will work if we all keep our focus, and keep the confusion down. I urge Innocent Townies not to post confusing things and make wild accusations, that's just the kind of thing the Mafia wants for us to do - ruin ourselves. Let's get going!" He announced that the Liquidia police force has found many clues leading to the evidence of mafia in the town. Declaring it the towns job to help find these people he announced that each day the town would have to vote on a suspect to be lynched after trial and to start off todays lynch he would choose {88}iNcontroL. {88}iNcontroL walked up to the newly setup stage for lynching and was prepared for his death. The switch was thrown, as the life drained out of {88}iNcontroL his hat fell to the ground and his skin turned blue. The town, unsure of what to think, left shocked at the turn of events. Would they live through this or would the mafia take over? It was too soon to tell, but things didn't look good from the start. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.069 On March 20 2008 14:27 Chuiu wrote: Inactive players will get replaced by a player on the wait list or if they had a special role it will be reassigned to an active towny after two days of inactivity (not voting). Posted in night7/main_page.075 On March 21 2008 00:40 Chuiu wrote: If I was going to allow resurrection I would just use my Jesus role idea. Posted in night7/main_page.078 On March 21 2008 03:43 Chuiu wrote: Sure they could, for the sake of being a good sport I would hope they don't. But being dead doesn't really do much but prove someones role and there really isn't anything I can do to stop that from happening. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:02 Chuiu wrote:Just to clear something up, Detectives could have and may have been using their roles since I gave them to them. Like, ie: during the election. There is no restriction to when they can ask me a question just that they may only ask me one question per day/night cycle. Posted in night7/main_page.081 On March 21 2008 06:09 Chuiu wrote:I answer them when I read it. Posted in night7/main_page.086 On March 21 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote: The saboteur may target anybody, I thought that was obvious. Extra votes are an ability of the mayor. Abilities are disabled by the Saboteur. Ergo extra votes are disabled. I put extra care and dedication. to every post I make to make sure they are spelling and gramatical correctness Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:05 Chuiu wrote:I just got home and I'm trying to get a hold of Dapperdan because I think he might have gotten a head start on the day post. I'll get it up as soon as possible but he's not responding right now so I don't really want to do anything until I hear from him. Posted in night7/main_page.090 On March 22 2008 11:12 Chuiu wrote:DAY A lightning bolt came from the sky and struck down HotZhot into his grave. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:40 Chuiu wrote:Dapperdan just logged off instead of answering me so I guess I gotta do this thing from scratch. Expect it in a couple hours. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 11:58 Chuiu wrote: Here are some reasons I cannot and will not do it that way: 1. 2. Gives each player more time to PM me what they want to do with their role. 3. Not every night is the same. Mafia may kill 9 one night, 1 the next. I like flowing the day post so its one story and not 9 individual stories strung together (remember the theater scene from last game?). Though it doesn't always work out that way. Posted in night7/main_page.091 On March 22 2008 13:30 Chuiu wrote: Evening seemed to drag on forever as everyone worried over the turn of events the town faced. But when night finally came, the red moon stared them back in the face like a terrifying omen. Nobody knew how or when the mafia would strike, or what their real intentions were if any, but a few were up late losing sleep over it. Over at casa Mynock he was frying himself a late night snack and watching a rerun of the news from earlier that night. He turned around to get something from his fridge when he noticed the lights out in his living room. With great care he crept into the room and searched for the lamp. It was moved onto the table in the center of the room. He switched it on to reveal the man known as Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde had braced himself on the ceiling and swooped down from above diving straight into Mynock. As they fell to the ground Mynock struggled to get away, he bashed Mr. Blonde in the face with his elbow as he turned to the right and climbed up only to meet gaze with Mr. Brown. They traded glares and Mynock dodged to the left and headed up his stairs not clearly deciphering the yells that came from behind him or caring. He tried to find the shotgun he had stashed in his closet but only found a smiley in its place. He panicked as he realized his only line of defense against two men was gone and he just about surrendered as Mr. Blonde appeared in the room with the shotgun, Mr. Brown just behind him. He dived toward Mr. Blonde in effort to tackle him but Mynock's attack was cut short as he ate a mouthful of buckshot. Unfortunately Mynocks neighbors were alerted by this blast, fortunately they were being taken care of the very same moment. NeaX and goldenkrnboi were drinking and gaming, not giving much thought to what had happened that day when they heard the shot from the house next to them. They both stood up in a haste and Neax went to call the police. The phone line was dead. goldenkrnboi pulled out his cell phone and began dialing when it began glitching on him. He kept trying but dropped the phone and gave up when he noticed the rest of the electronics in the house going haywire. They both grouped up in the room and decided to head out to investigate, possibly even try a neighbors phone when they noticed a Taipan Snake operating what dawned on them must be some sort of electronic jamming device. They were going to confront the man when another came through the back door. Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door. NeaX didn't care anymore, he started going to the front door when two knives met his hand as he reached for the handle. He braced himself against the wall as he pulled them out with his good hand. He chucked them back at Cottonmouth and went to open the door again but one by one four more knived embraced his good arm. NeaX fell to the ground and the pain and loss of blood were slowly taking their toll on him. goldenkrnboi watched the whole thing in horror and finally gained the courage to attack the three men in a vain attempt to save his friend. Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off. NeaX managed to get the door open and was crawling out while they were distracted by goldenkrnboi but Cottonmouth quickly picked up his target once more and finished him off throwing three knives into each of his legs and three in his back. NeaX didn't die from pain or shock, rather he bled out slowly. Yogurt and OneBlueAugust were playing a game of pool in the basement minding their own business when they heard the sound resonate from the house next door. They looked at each other puzzled and then went up the stairs to investigate the sound. They were almost to Mynocks house when four men intercepted them. Yogurt and OneBlueAugust saw them and OneBlueAugust asked them what was going on in the house. Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia. As he held up the top portion of Mynocks head, the bottom on the ground a few feet away after falling apart from the buckshot, the two men became filled with shock. No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself. Fortunately only four men stood in their path and OneBlueAugust made a drunken move toward a sickly looking fellow known as Sidewinder. He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after. Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help. OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter. Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live. Yogurt was just getting started as he approached Black Mamba and Eddie. He kicked Eddie aside as he was helping Black Mamba recover from the stone that struck his face and stumbled but still managed to make an easy round house kick to knock Black Mamba back down. He moved toward Eddie readying himself for another fight but was tripped by Black Mambas flailing legs. Eddie was up at that point, however, and began kicking Yogurt in the gut. Black Mamba felt his way up and began kicking Yogurt in the back to compliment Eddies assault. They both took their turns dealing with Yogurt but when Eddie noticed Yogurt manage to pull some sort of switch out of his pocket he yelled at Black Mamba to back off. They backed away from Yogurt and watched in anticipation expecting him to set off a bomb attached to his chest. He hit the switch and an explosion sent shock waves from across town. Eddie half-panicked and shot Yogurt in the face as he motioned everyone to retreat. The mafia had tried their best that night and had finished with their hits, but no one could explain the blasted remains of CTStalker that night. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68352 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.100 On March 23 2008 04:32 Chuiu wrote: If someone gets hit with more than one hit and saved they'll know. Each medic will only know they saved them from one hit though and won't know if someone else saved them also. I'm pretty sure the cellphone thing last game pointed to KF91. Like he was going to dial 911 but came up short or something like that, I don't remember my exact wording but I did a couple clues like that toward KF91. Posted in night7/main_page.103 On March 23 2008 12:25 Chuiu wrote: I intended to change it a long time ago to say that but simply forgot. Its rounded down this game as well. Posted in night7/main_page.109 On March 24 2008 05:49 Chuiu wrote:I don't know where you people are getting this 'mafia vote on who to kill' crap. Its the same as it was last game and its clearly written in the roles that they decide as a group who to kill. Night comes in about 7 hours. Tons of people were bitching about the game not moving fast enough and begging for 24h days and now you guys want 72 hours? I'm not extending it, if I do that then the 48h thing will mean nothing. But that doesn't mean I won't delay day or night due to personal reasons. Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:23 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The towns decision was unanimous and Mandalor was setup to die. Everyone screamed and roared as they threw the switch. Mandalor's skin turned red, the color of blood, and the town had come one step closer to justice and revenge for their fallen families and friends. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.120 On March 24 2008 15:25 Chuiu wrote:If anyone had a question in the thread I won't be able to answer it till tomorrow, and I'm like 8 pages behind. Posted in night7/main_page.121 On March 24 2008 15:30 Chuiu wrote: He's doesn't keep up with the thread much, nor is he ever on this late. Posted in night7/main_page.133 On March 25 2008 14:12 Chuiu wrote:Hey bad news everyone. Remember a couple weeks ago when I wasn't sure if I passed the kidney stone because I said the pain stopped but I didn't see it come out. Well ITS STILL INSIDE ME. I was going to get a cat scan today to check for it but I canceled it last second and just an hour ago I started feeling pain again. I'm not sure how this is going to affect the normal schedule of things but I'll certainly try my hardest to keep the game running smoothly, hopefully Dapperdan will be able to do most of the work this round for me. Posted in night7/main_page.134 On March 25 2008 14:20 Chuiu wrote:My mother has advised me to drink ... corn tea. I'm supposed to take the hairs of corn and boil them with water then drink that. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing working? Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 14:57 Chuiu wrote:I'll get day up tomorrow afternoon. Sit tight. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 08:17 Chuiu wrote:Detectives cannot find out how many mafia abstain from voting because they're not actually voting for a person. The ability requires that they vote for a person: About the detective role, if he asks me what the role of a player is he is told what the role of the player is. For a list of roles in the game please refer to the first post under roles, theres 13 of them in total. Theres nothing unclear about this. Also, good luck to Chiui, whoever that is, I know what you're going through! Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 09:22 Chuiu wrote: Well dapperdan seems to be ignoring me (probably too lazy to help or something) and I haven't had a chance to get around to that so we'll see how much time I get today after I write up the day post. Edit: Oh yeah the pain stopped again sometime late tuesday. I guess my kidney stone just wanted to randomly remind me it still exists since haven't had a chance to get a follow up cat scan done. But I'm feeling good for the time being ... but I'm probably going to need an operation or something to get this thing out of me since its been like three weeks now. Posted in night7/main_page.147 On March 27 2008 11:21 Chuiu wrote: There are a few different ways they can get it out according to my doctor. They can directly make an incision and cut it out, they can grab it and pull it down ... the long way, they can do what you just described, they can shoot pew pew lasers at it. But every method has its own set of risks and pain involved. The risk of the method you just stated is that it might also cause internal bleeding which could create more problems. Day post in a few moments. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:35 Chuiu wrote: Dinmsab has just put away Mandalor's file and was reviewing the clues from the previous crime scene this evening when he heard something smack his window. He stood up to investigate and peered outside to see a man hurling matter at the side of his house from the ground. The man beckoned him to come out but after inspecting his window he promptly gave him the finger and instead went to call the police. But as he was dialing he noticed the phone line had been cut. Irritated he decided to confront the man outside and end his charades. Once he got to the bottom of the stairs though he noticed two other men sitting in wait on his couch. The man on the far side introduced himself as Enigma and the closer man bowed with his hat in hand and referred to himself as California Mountain Snake. Well Dinmsab was getting really impatient at this point and demanded an explanation for what was going on. Enigma stood up and proclaimed "why we're here to rid the world of good, because we're the only ones who can". Dinmsab realized he had walked into a mafia trap, and the footsteps behind him confirmed this. Mr. Orange came down with a pair of wire clippers in hand and bashed Dinmsab on the back with them. Dinmsab used the momentum to dive forward instead of fall and regained his balance after a roll, he was standing right beside his garage door and took the opportunity to escape by going out it. Hitting the door opener and holding the garage door tightly shut to buy himself some time he noticed the fourth man who was outside earlier assaulting his house. Mr. Red charged toward Dinmsab at the same time Dinmsab let go of the door and started running out the garage. Dinsamb smashed into Mr. Red and knocked him off guard but almost lost balance himself. As he began picking up speed he heard something singing behind him. He peered over his shoulder to see that California Mountain Snake had thrown something at him. Unfortunately Dinmsab had no time to react as his head was sliced clean off by the object and he fell to the ground dead. Across town the mafia were setting up another three house raid. Copperhead and Mr. Black were the first to act as they broke into the home of JeeJee. But as they broke the glass of one of his windows JeeJee woke up and grabbed his trusty baseball bat and headed down the stairs to meet them. He crept down slowly and peered around the corner to see Copperhead standing in wait for Mr. Black as he climbed in through the window. JeeJee didn't waste anytime waiting and charged at Copperhead with the bat but Mr. Black caught it with his hand and yanked it from JeeJee. JeeJee grabbed it and tried getting it back from him only to find it was stuck to his hand now. He backed up and Copperhead pulled a knife from his left pocket and said "well look here now, we've come to kill ya but yer gunna get a choice on how ya die, you can choose this here knife or whatevers in my right pocket". JeeJee saw his right pocket was bulging with something too large for it and motioned at the knife as he was backing into his kitchen to get a knife of his own to fight back with. Copperhead groaned "there no fun in that but I can't really argue, we gotta get this here done quick" so he ran towards JeeJee slashing with the knife. JeeJee not yet armed himself grabbed a towel next to him and wrapped it around Copperheads arm, he smashed it in the side of the wall and knocked the knife out of his hand. He grabbed the knife and pushed Copperhead aside as he ran towards the door to escape. Mr. Black wouldn't let him pass though, standing in front of the door, so JeeJee decided to put his new weapon to good use, he thrusted down hard toward Mr. Black's face but Mr. Black defended with the baseball bat and the knife drove through it. Mr. Black disarmed JeeJee, twisting the bat to the side and bashed him over the head with it. As JeeJee lay stunned on the ground Mr. Black pulled the knife out and drove it through JeeJee's chest ending his life. Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack. He was headed to his computer room to check his email one last time before going to bed when he noticed all the batteries to some of his electronics have been removed and tossed on the floor. He bent down to pick them up and was just about done when Taipan Snake charged into him and knocked him to the ground. As if the last couple events weren't out of the blue enough for him Frenh_Toast found himself being dragged to the nearest window. Eddie smashed the glass of the window and Taipan Snake grabbed French_Toast's head and they both used the remaining broken glass in the window pane to stab his neck with. It wasn't until they threw him through the window and he landed on his neighbors lawn darts did French_Toast die though. Coincidentally Fishball had been looking for those darts and was turning around the corner just after it happened. He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding. In downtown Liquidia early in the morning LucasWoJ was sitting in his white van about to head into work when he noticed someone walking past him with an obvious hangover. He handed Sidewinder a drug to help him recover and started back to his van but Sidewinder reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a note. "LucasWoJ" was written on it and he quickly chased him and tackled him to the ground. LucasWoJ tried to fight back but was overwhelmed by the stench on the mans coat and became sick all over the sidewalk while Sidewinder was beating him. He recovered from being sick and pulled an anesthetic out of his pocket and stabbed Sidewinder with it, putting him to sleep. He figured the man was still drunk and cleaned himself up to get ready to leave but stopped as he noticed someone driving down the road obviously looking for someone. LucasWoJ waved him down and Joe got out of the car. "Is this your friend?" LucasWoJ asked as he pointed to Sidewinder, lying next to a pool of vomit. "Yeah thats him alright, always drinking a little too much" said Joe as he pulled Sidewinder into the back of the car with the help of LucasWoJ. "Well thanks for the help, but I'm afraid my friend was supposed to give you something" said Joe as he turned to face LucasWoj. He was confused in his response and didn't really want anything to do with the two anymore so he decided to be short and walk back toward his van. But Joe pulled out a gun and shot LucasWoJ dead saying "he was supposed to kill you". No more than two blocks down at the same time ShadowDrgn was hastily running to his car fearing he would be late for work. He has just arrived there when a single man stood at his car. "Scram, I'm going to be late" he said as he got out his keys to open the door that Max was still blocking. "You aint goin nowhere" said Max as he smashed ShadowDrgn in the head with a bat. ShadowDrgn lay stunned on the ground and Max gauged him before he moved in to finish the job. ShadowDrgn's corpse was bruised and bloody when it was found only an hour later by his landlord. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68554 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:39 Chuiu wrote: Two of them are obvious but OP is updated now. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 02:32 Chuiu wrote:So my kidney stone gave me a one day break to go to work, make a day post, and play some games. Its being a bitch again. I'm going to try that corn tea shit sometime today... Anyway, I'm hearing about a lot of unhonest play here. Dead players sending in information to live players, dead players posting information that affects the game in their blogs, etc. You guys are only helping to kill the game when you do this. When you're dead you're dead. Thats it, no more talking to people in the game about it. If every player just posted whatever he wanted whenever then there would be no point in killing off players in the game and it would just turn into a huge mess. Please respect the rules and play the game as it should be played or I will ban you from it or worse just stop hosting it here. Posted in night7/main_page.158 On March 28 2008 03:04 Chuiu wrote: Been up there since Day 1. We'll have to see once the game is over. Posted in night7/main_page.163 On March 28 2008 12:39 Chuiu wrote:I'm not going to do shit about this. Forming an alliance when you can't possibly know another players role is a risk as was making that chat room for discussion. You took the risk and someone you didn't want in it somehow got it. Not my fault! And if it leads to either the mafia or the town making a quick win you have only yourselves to blame. Posted in night7/main_page.164 On March 28 2008 12:49 Chuiu wrote:The mayor has double lynches, you can use those two kill off your top suspects. Posted in night7/main_page.165 On March 28 2008 13:27 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Ghar - 17 qrs BloodyC0bbler Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib GranDim fanatacist iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) NatsuTerran GeneralStan(2) wurm Showtime! - 2 CDRdude wurm(2) randombum aZnvaLiaNce Ace - 4 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm bumatlarge - 5 BlindAlbino MTF 0cz3c SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive wurm - 18 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks TranceStorm(2) Amber[LighT] zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 3 Pangolin(2) NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) useLess BloodyC0bbler(2) Abstain - 10 GrayArea L Siefu Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Klive5ive Meta KH1031 57 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:35 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: Ghar - 25 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge crazie-penguin Scorch(2) ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler Showtime! - 9 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 5 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf bumatlarge - 12 MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) (or you could have just kept your first vote here and moved your second one to wurm) wurm - 30 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks Amber[LighT] Puosu crazie-penguin(2) Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 4 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) ~OpZ~(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive (you never made a first vote) Joe Bob Mike Gary Judith Micheal Abstain - 13 GrayArea L Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot 86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:44 Chuiu wrote:Doubleposts not treating you well either, I'm afraid. Posted in night7/main_page.172 On March 29 2008 12:57 Chuiu wrote: Even moreso than usual. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 03:21 Chuiu wrote:I'm sure you can guess why night isn't up yet. I'll try to finish the vote count and get it up now. Posted in night7/main_page.173 On March 30 2008 04:32 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] Ghar and Wurm were set to be lynched today, with not much argument against the cases. As they were both prepared to be lynched Wurm screamed for justice and a pardon, Ghar remained mostly silent. The switch was pulled and the life drained out of them. Wurm's skin turned blue and Ghar's green. The town could not believe what they were witnessing, and began to doubt each other. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.177 On March 31 2008 10:01 Chuiu wrote:Day probably won't be up tonight as I'm really not feeling well. I'll try my best to get it up tomorrow. Posted in night7/main_page.179 On April 02 2008 03:07 Chuiu wrote: It was a cold night in Liquidia and no would could deny everyone was afraid for their life this evening. Mr. Lavender was digging up Chui's grave, not quite satisfied that he was dead. He had almost gotten to the casket when ... Ninjas. Thousands of them flipping against the graves. Smashing every flower, tombstone, zombie, whatever they saw in the area. The ninja clan leader, standing on top of an old tree; he screams some hardcore battlecry in Japanese, and i'm not sure what he's saying because there are no subtitles at this part. He takes the damn casket and breaks it in half with a kung-fu touch. NOW MR. LAVENDER IS REALLY PISSED. He turned his head to the other 999 ninjas ( *Music wails in the background* ), and starts kicking ass "the matrix" style with slow motion and everything. He killed those 999 within seconds, but... the ninja leader gets to stab him from the back and he's fucking bleeding so bad, but he couldn't care less. His lust for murder was as awesome as ever. He stabbed the ninja leader right into his throat with Chui's stiff hand, and unleashed a series of badass roundhouse kicks to everyones faces that he learned from endless hours of watching Walker, Texas Ranger. The ninja clan leader's head instantly explodes covering the graveyard in blood, thus quenching the thirst of all zombies forever. Posted in night7/main_page.180 On April 02 2008 15:14 Chuiu wrote:Only because every time I try to get started on writing something I end up writhing in pain. That fake day post was easy. Just copy paste and change a few words. 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<not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote: In downtown Liquidia Empyrean and New104 were up late reviewing case reports on the lynched and murdered people from that day. They had come up with disturbing revelations and were ready to reveal them to the public in effort to help stem the wrath of the mafia. Empyrean got up from his desk, thirsty, went to the break room for a cup of coffee. Along the way he noticed Enigma writing a note, perhaps with the intention to replace Empyreans findings with false ones to throw the town off. Empyrean noted the features of the man and quickly linked him to a murder just the previous day. "Stop right there, you're under arrest for suspicion of murder" he called out, knowing he didn't really have the means to detain the man but would certainly try his best. Enigma grinned back at him and motioned someone to come to him. Eddie and Taipan Snake walked around the corner. "Oh I see you have friends" said Empyrean, now realized how screwed he was. "Yeah they're pretty cool guys, always ready to help" said Enigma and with that he and Eddie charged at Empyrean and proceeded to hold him to the ground. Taipan Snake walked up slowly and with a strange device fired out a direct current of electricity which proceeded to fry every inch of Empyrean. Down the hall New104 was starting to get worried, rather he was starting to get a little thirsty himself. Empyrean was taking his time, he thought, so that must mean he's brewing a fresh pot. He got up to go get some coffee himself when he noticed five nails on the ground, he walked slowly over to them to investigate. As he was bending over to take a closer look Cottonmouth approached from behind and stabbed a nail into his back. He fell to the ground and Cottonmouth used the opportunity to stab six more nails into him. New104 was cringing in pain but he knew he had to defend himself, he started getting up but met gaze with a strange man on his way up. King Brown Snake slapped him back to the ground and started beating him as he lay there. New104 wasn't anywhere near dead at this point, but his adrenaline was flowing and he used the sudden surge in strength to knock King Brown Snake to the ground and get up himself. He dodge three more nails flying at him and got out to the hallway. Noticing a mafia walking down from the break room he started heading down the opposite direction to the armory. Cottonmouth was in the hallway now and was about to throw another nail at New104 when The Wolf interrupted him. "You just need to hit the right spot" he said as he threw the nail down the hallway, it landed square in the back of New104's head and he convulsed as he dropped to the ground, dying less then a minute later. Later that night Winston was hot on the trail of Kau, who he had chased out of a dark alley. Kau assumed he had encroached on the wrong territory as he was doing some freelance investigating of his own. He ran down another dark alley in effort to lose Winston and opted to try to blend in with a pile of garbage. Winston flipped on his flash light and scanned around the alley, seeing no one, he took a slow pace as he moved down it. He was just about to the end when he noticed Kau. He had a clear shot and took it, firing off a couple rounds he quickly ended Kau's life. It was later yet and dawn was approaching, Queasy was stumbling home and leaving a trail of puke with him. Down the street Showtime! was spray painting graffiti all over the walls of the government buildings like you would expect lowlifes to do. He noticed Queasy approaching and saw how completely out of it the man was. He decided to have some fun and started spray painting Queasy's back as he walked by. Well Queasy wasn't as bad as Showtime! had thought and he spun around quick as the wind and landed a punch square in Showtime!'s right eye knocking him out. An easy kill, thought Queasy, as he pulled out a knife and stabbed Showtime! straight through the heart. But that wasn't the end of it. Ordell was running from across the street after seeing what just happened. He tackled Queasy to the ground and with little trouble got up right away. He removed the knife from Showtime!'s corpse as he inspected it, a towny he thought to himself. He slashed Queasy's right shoulder as he was trying to get up and then kicked it to flip him around. "Lets see how you like it" he said as he stabbed Queasy through the heart, ending his life and a long night for the town of Liquidia. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=68925 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.181 On April 03 2008 15:45 Chuiu wrote: Include me on this list. Posted in night7/main_page.183 On April 04 2008 06:05 Chuiu wrote: Or how about you follow the rules? Posted in night7/main_page.184 On April 04 2008 08:06 Chuiu wrote:The thread is dead! I half-expected this with the several day delay. Let everyone know day 4 is up so we can get the game going again. /bump Posted in night7/main_page.188 On April 06 2008 05:13 Chuiu wrote:I'll do a vote count later today and move to night tomorrow evening. Posted in night7/main_page.189 On April 07 2008 02:26 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: araav - 2 CDRdude BlindAlbino fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 3 Plexa G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 11 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta ~OpZ~ rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies Pangolin nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf Abstain - 19 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare 43 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 12:36 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 10 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Abstain - 33 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 58 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Night in a couple hours. Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:42 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Final Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 13 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Ninja4ever Chezinu Abstain - 35 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 ieatkids5 Jimtudor 63 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night soon... Posted in night7/main_page.191 On April 07 2008 14:55 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The town left with little direction decided to lynch TranceStorm this day. He denied his involvement with any plots against the town and argued to the end. When the switch was finally pulled and he died, TranceStorm's skin turned green. The town was even more lost after seeing this. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.197 On April 10 2008 11:19 Chuiu wrote:Heres my plan for next game while I write the day post: 60 player cap - I never wanted to put a cap but now I think its a good idea - we'll see how it works out - I'll post when the thread is going to open ahead of time so everyone can plan when they will ninja sign up No elected roles - I had this planned out before this game even started, I want to have a game without a mayor and you guys deserve to experience one this way Everyone has a role - I'm going to try to make it so that everyone in the game has a role to keep things interesting for them - so people don't get the "oh I'm a boring vanilla towny" feeling - they will probably be highly watered down versions of current roles - mafia may get special roles to help with balance but you wont see a team of suicide bombers or saboteurs or anything Anything else I had planned I can't remember right now. I should write it down somewhere... Posted in night7/main_page.198 On April 10 2008 16:08 Chuiu wrote: The night didn't start out quiet and there was a street fight just outside a bar. Louis had his suspicions about bumatlarge and was about to prove them. He stood still as he waited for bumatlarge to attack him first but when it became apparent bumatlarge didn't want to return the fight he quickly became animated and jumped towards him. He clipped bumatlarge in the jaw with a punch and pushed him back a pace. bumatlarge was rather fed up, though, and thought he could get away if he simply ran. He didn't get far before a few bar darts planted into his back though, and he fell to the ground cringing in pain. Louis pulled the darts out of his back and grouped them together. He thrust them down into bumatlarge's heart and killed him off. Things settled down for a bit after this and the mafia didn't really make their move for another couple hours. Mr. Blonde and Mr. White got out of their car, the rest of their hit squad parked on the other side of the building. They had arrived at an office building where they noticed a group of people always worked late. Sure enough there were some cars parked around them. "When is d.arkive supposed to do it?" asked Mr. White, as he leaned against the car and stared at the building in expectation. "I don't know, they just said to wait for their signal" responded Mr. Blonde as he walked a bit closer to the building to get a better look. He could see d.arkive running through some corridors looking for someone, anyone. He found Hittegods. d.arkive ran towards Hittegods as he was examining some photos and hit a button. An explosion ripped apart nearly half of the building and it sent everyone outside ducking for cover as debris flew all over. "Holy shit! I guess we're supposed to go in and find the rest of them now?" said Mr. Blonde after dodging what was left of a door that flew at him. "I don't think we have to" said Mr. White as he pointed at some people getting out of the good half of what was left of the building. They decided on the first person they saw, xDark.Carnivalx. Mr. Blonde jetted towards him and knocked him to the ground with a punch square in the jaw. xDark.Carnivalx was dazed and still disoriented and shocked from the explosion, but he managed to stumble to his feet only to get kicked down again. The adrenaline was rushing but xDark.Carnivalx was getting frustrated, he looked around for something to use as a weapon and found a shattered pipe. He grabbed it and swung at Mr. Blonde, forcing him to back off and provide time for xDark.Carnivalx to get off the ground. But just as soon as he did Mr. White smashed another pipe laying around in the back of xDark.Carnivalx's head. Another couple blows and xDark.Carnivalx was dead. The majority of the people who left the building made their way towards the rest of the mafia. Meta had saw them and was running towards Mr. Orange and Black Mamba. "Why aren't you calling for help" asked Meta as he reached them. Mr. Orange shrugged and shot him in the leg. Meta fell to the ground and started screaming for help. Black Mamba was a bit alarmed and tried to quiet the man, permanently, but ended up just bruising his face from stomping his foot around. Mr. Orange finally put an end to his bellows and shot Meta in the head, ending his life. By now the others had figured out what was going on. Caller and Lenwe sprinted towards their cars but they were already too late. Explosives placed by d.arkive went off and all the cars on the lot not belonging to the mafia went up in flames. They ran away from Mr. Orange and Black Mamba, away from Mr. Blonde and Mr. White. But they were still surrounded. Mr. Red and Eddie headed them off and King Brown Snake and The Wolf moved in behind Caller. King Brown Snake grabbed Caller's legs and he fell over after he lost his balance. Caller got a leg free and kicked off the maddened King Brown Snake but wasn't in the clear yet. He met gaze with The Wolf who was carrying some more debris from the building. Caller rolled to his right trying to dodge an attack from The Wolf but wasn't fast enough and took a vicious blow to the chest. He rolled to the side and started searching around for a weapon of his own as he jumped up from the ground. Nothing around, Caller tried dodging the next attack but King Brown Snake was on him again and the blow pierced through his skull. At the same time all this was happening Eddie and Mr. Red were taking care of Lenwe. Lenwe was the first to make his move, however, and tackled through Eddie and ran past Mr. Red. He would have made it free but Mr. Red threw something on the ground ahead of him and he slipped on it and landed face first onto the ground. Mr. Red pounced on his back and started smashing his legs with a broken piece of rebar. Lenwe spun around and Mr. Red lost his balance and fell to the ground. Lenwe snatched up the piece of rebar and Mr. Red retreated to the new threat he posed. Eddie wasn't afraid to take on Lenwe, however, and charged strait at him grabbing the steel bar right out of his hand and knocking him to the ground with it. A few well placed blows and Lenwe was dead as well. Later that night Ordell was out jogging when he came across Chezinu running into a building. He was in the building pretty quick but has lost sight of Chezinu. Ordell listened for footsteps and followed the sounds. In less than a moment he caught up with Chezinu and had tackled him to the ground. Ordell didn't have a weapon but he improvised with a piece of rope he found lying near by. He pulled it against Chezinu's neck and stopped his breathing. A couple minutes passed and Chezinu was dead. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=69303 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:31 Chuiu wrote: I don't know how to spell and have a spell checker installed into everything. Too bad it doesn't check for context. Strait = Straight in those posts, I'll go back and edit them. Posted in night7/main_page.205 On April 11 2008 09:34 Chuiu wrote:Also, could a mod or someone else change the thread title. Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:44 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The verdict was in and two people were judged guilty today. Evilmonkey. and Siefu. They were both setup on the gallows and both denied everything. The switch was pulled and the town saw Evilmonkey.'s skin turn red, but Siefu's turn green. Mixed feelings, but many were optimistic. They felt they were finally making progress. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.214 On April 12 2008 16:45 Chuiu wrote:Also, could a mod change the thread title to be Night 5? And I haven't had a chance to catch up in the thread, sorry if any questions are going unanswered right now. Posted in night7/main_page.228 On April 15 2008 14:45 Chuiu wrote:I'm sorry guys I've been bogged down with tons of extra work lately. I'll get it up tomorrow I promise. EDIT: Oh and don't worry about the inactive player situation. It's better than you think, I assure you. Posted in night7/main_page.231 On April 16 2008 09:04 Chuiu wrote:Day post started Posted in night7/main_page.232 On April 16 2008 10:37 Chuiu wrote: It was still very early in the evening and decafchicken was quite certain he was on the trail of the mafia. He intended to send them a strong message and take their kill count down this evening. Standing outside the apartment complex where KH1031 lived he double checked the address before going in. Some gut feeling told him KH1031 was mafia, and he was ready to finally act. He reached the door and pounded on it. KH1031 opened it and decafchicken shoved him back in causing him to fall to the ground and closed the door behind him as he walked in. He walked toward KH1031 and pulled out his gun and shot him twice in the head, not hesitating risking his own life. But as KH1031's body turned a deep blue decafchicken knew he had screwed up big time, he panicked and turned around to get out as fast as he could but found three mafia in his way. Eddie, Enigma, and Mr. Black were all ready to get a piece of KH1031 but found someone else doing their dirty work for them. "We love what you've done here, but you're just as much a risk to us so you've got to go as well" said Mr. Black. Enigma had an ugly look on his face as he tackled decafchicken to the ground and Mr. Black followed up as they both started viciously beating him. They were just starting to get into it when Eddie cut their fun short by shooting decafchicken with his own gun and they all retreated quickly. The bloody evening was just getting started however. Louis found himself outside of the house of his next suspect, MidnightGladius, and already decided on a quick death for him. He stealthily entered through the back door and found him watching the news oblivious of what was going on behind him. Louis covered MidnightGladius's mouth to muffle his screams and stabbed him through the heart killing him quickly. After failing a second time Louis found himself highly depressed and retreated to his own home where he would take on a new life, perhaps of a monk. Things were still not quiet. Joe, Mr. Blue, and California Mountain Snake found aZnvaLiaNce working very late this evening. They intruded into the office buildings he was at and quickly found him doing repetitive boring paperwork in his drab cubicle. Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw. He tugged on the chord to get it started and aZnvaLiaNce shot up from his seat instantly and turned around to see the three men standing at the doorway. Mr. Blue lunged toward him aiming for his chest but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed out in pain as the chainsaw shredded down the side of his arm. Mr. Blue went in for another attack but this time aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall. Joe gave Mr. Blue a thumbs up for effort as he grabbed and held onto aZnvaLiaNce from behind. Joe kept a tight grip as California Mountain Snake took out his own weapon of choice. He sliced clean through aZnvaLiaNce in his chest, his gut, his arms and legs and pretty soon aZnvaLiaNce was a bloody mess, and they left him there to bleed out and die knowing he couldn't do a thing to save himself in the condition he was in. Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ. Though there were already many acts of violence this night there was still one last one to come. Winston saw BlindAlbino making his way downtown. He recognized characteristics of the man that matched up with some of the killings and wondered why he had never been brought up during lynchings. Winston decided it was BlindAlbino's day of reckoning and pulled out an Uzi from under his coat. The muzzle flash lit the streets as he riddled BlindAlbino with bullets from the gun. He paused for a second to see BlindAlbino's corpse turn a crimson red before going home, satisfied at his successful hit. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=69610 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.236 On April 17 2008 05:33 Chuiu wrote:I forgot to mention in day post: If a player was killed and protected by a medic they will not be notified of being protected any longer. Just from reading the thread I can tell dead players are squealing after death and giving out information. Everyone who has done this or anyone I catch participating in the game after death will be banned from the next game no questions asked. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:45 Chuiu wrote:Doing a vote count, I'll move to night tonight in a few hours. After trying corn tea and lemon juice + olive oil I didn't pass the stone but afterwards (like a day after) the stone felt like it moved lower. Right now its not causing a lot of pain and I can go to work and do normal things again finally but my doctor wants me to go in and get it surgically removed, he's concerned my body might shut down the kidney completely if it remains blocked as it is. As for me not saying much ... its as if I don't want to! I have to stay out of the game as much as possible or I risk giving things away. Posted in night7/main_page.241 On April 18 2008 10:56 Chuiu wrote: On second thought the lack of voting disappoints me greatly. I think people are ignoring the thread because of the thread title. Which admins are the ones who can change it? It needs to say Day 6... I'll extend voting another day I suppose. + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO Ace Amber[LighT] SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin smurfingchobo vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 10 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Naib Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks nemY BuGzlToOnl Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 26 of 92 possible voters accounted for. I really intended on enforcing it but after a couple days I didn't see the need to and I really lack extra people willing to take the places of all the inactive players. My decision to ban the players who told others about their death may change once I've reviewed the situation more thoroughly so don't expect this to be a final decision. But right now I feel it was a bit unfair for the town to learn of this information and it was an unintended aspect of the game that I am trying to fix. Posted in night7/main_page.241 Posted in night7/main_page.244 On April 19 2008 10:30 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib nemY vote to fuck L witha rake which would eventually kill him ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs Abstain randombum 39 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Meh, final vote count and moving to night in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.245 On April 19 2008 15:08 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] The votes were tallied and crazie-penguin was ready to go. With the pull of the switch the town rejoiced to see crazie-penguin's body turn red. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/main_page.247 On April 20 2008 10:00 Chuiu wrote:My only associates are notepad! Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:01 Chuiu wrote:The reason I haven't gone to day is beyond my control. The reason knows who or what they are. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:12 Chuiu wrote: Dapperdan has nothing to do with it or even this game as far as anything past his name being in first day post goes. Posted in night7/main_page.250 On April 22 2008 09:33 Chuiu wrote: Ding ding ding, we have a winner. I am for the time being. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 09:52 Chuiu wrote:Day will be up late, don't wait on it. Posted in night7/main_page.252 On April 23 2008 15:18 Chuiu wrote: Mafia numbers began to lower but both sides knew they would be in for a long fight. Eddie went down the long list of townspeople and selected a bunch for his mafia to handle. Once his orders were out they got right to work. Mr. Blue was first up, and he was outside the house of fusionsdf. He noticed him in the living room and decided to try to sneak in from the back. All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door which alerted fusionsdf. He ran to the back of his house to see Mr. Blue coming in. fusionsdf knew exactly what was going on and grabbed an umbrella that was sitting by the door. He stabbed at Mr. Blue and flailed at him trying to fight him off but Mr. Blue evaded the blows and grabbed hold of the umbrella and yanked it out of fusionsdf's hands. He broke the handle hitting fusionsdf over the head with it and discarded it. fusionsdf dived forward and tackled Mr. Blue to the ground but Mr. Blue shoved him to the side and quickly got up. He grabbed up the umbrella again and stabbed down at fusionsdf. The tip was enough to do severe damage to fusionsdf, and he stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing. Pretty soon fusionsdf was dead from the beating. useLess was sitting at home just watching TV when he heard a strange sound from outside his window. He went over to investigate and Mr. Orange jumped right through it and almost knocked useLess down as he flew past him. He quickly turned around and had useLess in a headlock. useLess struggled to free him self and stabbed at Mr. Orange with shards of glass. Mr. Orange broke off and flinched in pain. He grabbed a few shards of glass himself and stabbed through useLess's arms with them. Then to finish him off he made long gashes into useLess and left him to bleed to death. Cottonmouth found Klive5ive walking to his friend house down the street and began his attack. He threw one stone at Klive5ive's back to get his attention, then when he had it he threw another two at him. Klive5ive dodged the next two and started picking up the stones to chuck back at Cottonmouth. Unfortunately Cottonmouth already had some more ready, throwing four more stones at Klive5ive. Klive5ive was severely bruised at this point and he struggled to throw back the stones with much strength. Cottonmouth threw three more stones at Klive5ive's right arm and three at his left arm in effort to disable him. With Klive5ive unable to defend himself Cottonmouth took two last stones and smashed them into Klive5ive's skull. G.s)NarutO was doing monk things in his monk place with his monk friends when he decided it was late and he wanted to go to sleep. On the way to his room he encountered Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blonde mocked G.s)NarutO for his failed attempts at helping the town and then pulled out a gun to kill him. G.s)NarutO wasn't ready to give up on life completely though and thought he could redeem himself by taking out this man for the town. He charged towards Mr. Blonde and tried to grab his gun but Mr. Blonde was a bit faster to respond and shot him twice in the leg. He finished it by shooting G.s)NarutO in the head and made his escape through a window before getting caught by a horde of monks. Copperhead found Falcynn working late at school on an essay. He saw him at a computer typing it up and crept up from behind. Copperhead grabbed his chair and wheeled him into a printer table off to the side knocking several things from the shelves onto him. Falcynn pushed himself away from it and got up to defend himself, he grabbed a pen which had fallen onto the ground and slashed upward with it at Copperhead. Copperhead grabbed a keyboard and used it as a shield, he deflected the pen and smashed it into Falcynn. He grabbed another keyboard off to the side and use both of them as weapons smacking Falcynn every open spot he could find. He finally got him into a corner and kicked him in the gut then finished Falcynn off by smashing his head between the two keyboards. Mr. White was last up that night. He encountered JoxxOr going out for a very early morning jog. He tripped JoxxOr using a wire he hid along the sidewalk and then used it as a choking device. JoxxOr struggled to get free as Mr. White pulled the wire tighter against his throat and suffocated him. It was a cruel death for JoxxOr. [noCluesArea] Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=70118 As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 10:09 Chuiu wrote: + Show Spoiler + Vote Count: L - 32 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 26 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] 31 of 85 possible votes accounted for. Final vote count and night in a few hours. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:09 Chuiu wrote:Fastest my ass, you guys had 2 days. Posted in night7/main_page.255 On April 25 2008 15:50 Chuiu wrote: [noClueArea] L and Ulszz were both prepared and ready at the gallows. The town quite convinced both of them were mafia. With the switch thrown there were mixed feelings when Ulszz turned green and L turned red. Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you! Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:35 Chuiu wrote:Mayor votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 15:57 Chuiu wrote:Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. I would make it larger font and flashing but thats beyond my power. Hopefully people will read this though. EDIT: Added it to OP also. I can't believe the things I have to do to get people to read. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:10 Chuiu wrote:Hahaha, hopefully everyone reads at least one of those posts, they certainly all stand out! Posted in night7/vote1_page.006 On March 19 2008 11:58 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Last Romantic aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob - 5 MoRe_mInErAls LTT wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 22 Last Romantic Meta Eti307 Showtime! MTF BloodyC0bbler RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim crazie-penguin Yogurt Ace - 26 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Hollander Naib useLess GeneralStan ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Mynock Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios randombum - 10 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea ilj.psa fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau ~OpZ~ Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 5 Ace Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 4 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum 84 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:12 Chuiu wrote:Also if you have to change your vote please don't go back 3 pages and change your post (or where ever it was) just post again saying you want to change it. Posted in night7/vote1_page.007 On March 19 2008 12:46 Chuiu wrote: I haven't screened for people not playing yet, I'm going to work on that algorithm before I do the final vote count. If he's not on the 130 list than he's not playing, though. Doh, that was the one number I forgot to change through all the vote changes and additions, etc. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 07:13 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 4 MoRe_mInErAls wurm bumatlarge Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ Queasy NeaX goldenkrnboi French_Toast Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 clazziquai Alventenie Camlito Energies BlindAlbino randombum - 22 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 ssj100 Siefu ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 5 SonuvBob RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs AcrossFiveJulys Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 96 of 130 possible voters accounted for. A final vote count will be made in a few hours and then I will move to night soon after that. Posted in night7/vote1_page.008 On March 20 2008 07:23 Chuiu wrote:I don't know why also, thanks for posting again though. Posted in night7/vote1_page.009 On March 20 2008 12:03 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Last Romantic - 2 aZnvaLiaNce d.arkive SonuvBob - 3 MoRe_mInErAls wurm Chezinu Empyrean - 17 Last Romantic Eti307 RtS)Night[Mare NatsuTerran SoleSteeler Jimtudor nemY decafchicken imDerek KH1031 LoStYouRSkiLLS ShaLLoW[baY] HeRoS)Pink butidigress GranDim ~OpZ~ bumatlarge Ace - 30 CDRdude xDark.Carnivalx JoxxOr ghar spoinka Hittegods Naib useLess ShadowDrgn Falcynn zeks Caller Artanis[Xp] Fishball MasterOfChaos Lenwe ahrara_ NeaX goldenkrnboi Pangolin Alethios Yogurt Empyrean New104 Alventenie Camlito Energies Mandalor SonuvBob AcrossFiveJulys LucasWoJ randombum - 28 Dr.Dragoon G.s)NarutO Sadir fanatacist Bockit BWdero Ninja4ever. So no fek Lysithea JeeJee GrayArea Meta iNfuNdiBuLuM Ace suresh0t Mynock Hollander crazie-penguin Showtime! MTF GeneralStan L LTT French_Toast Unforgiven_ve 0cz3c BlindAlbino clazziquai Queasy fusionsdf - 4 Plexa ZBiR Kau Scorch Plexa - 2 Siefu fusionsdf ghar - 4 Amber[LighT] rpf Ziel TranceStorm araav - 3 RowdierBob Klive5ive qrs Abstain - 6 Wysp HotZhot MidnightGladius randombum BloodyC0bbler CTStalker 99 of 130 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night in approximately half an hour. Posted in night7/vote2_page.001 On March 22 2008 13:29 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote2_page.003 On March 23 2008 12:48 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 suresh0t - 2 Camlito Alethios Ninja4ever. - 2 Chezinu Pangolin zeks rpf LoStYouRSkiLLS - 2 Plexa SoleSteeler Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 16 Naib ZBiR LucasWoJ HeRoS)Pink useLess RtS)Night[Mare aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie Scorch imDerek Artanis[Xp] TranceStorm butidigress clazziquai ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast - 2 MoRe_mInErAls qrs Abstain - 12 Ninja4ever. JoxxOr BWdero MidnightGladius suresh0t GrayArea SonuvBob Showtime! xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) zeks French_Toast 42 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote2_page.005 On March 24 2008 06:31 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 suresh0t Camlito Ninja4ever. - 2 Chezinu Pangolin zeks rpf LoStYouRSkiLLS SoleSteeler Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 16 Naib ZBiR HeRoS)Pink useLess RtS)Night[Mare aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie Scorch imDerek TranceStorm butidigress clazziquai ~OpZ~ Evilmonkey. Romance_us French_Toast str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast MoRe_mInErAls Mandalor - 4 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs Abstain - 34 Ninja4ever. JoxxOr BWdero MidnightGladius suresh0t GrayArea SonuvBob xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) zeks Falcynn ahrara_ Artanis[Xp] ieatkids5 LucasWoJ Bockit MTF Empyrean randombum Last Romantic Eti307 Alethios Plexa(presumed) smurfingchobo(presumed) KH1031 Puosu(presumed) iNfuNdiBuLuM Energies(presumed) Mandalor clazziquai Klive5ive crazie-penguin Lysithea Amber[LighT] 66 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Night in about 6-7 hours. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 On March 24 2008 13:44 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Dr.Dragoon Kuja900 Ninja4ever. Chezinu zeks rpf Hittegods KF91 Ghar - 7 useLess aZnvaLiaNce ShadowDrgn Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm Evilmonkey. str BlindAlbino nemY BuGzlToOnl Kuja900 Dr.Dragoon French_Toast MoRe_mInErAls Mandalor - 58 Ace Showtime! ShaLLoW[baY] qrs clazziquai ahrara_ Falcynn ZBiR unsoundlogic BWdero GeneralStan Scorch nemY MidnightGladius decafchicken L Empyrean Eti307 suresh0t randombum Lysithea French_Toast New104 Kau Artanis[Xp] Ninja4ever. Naib JeeJee Hittegods SoleSteeler Romance_us Plexa LucasWoJ Caller Fishball RtS)Night[Mare Jimtudor GranDim Lenwe Alethios NatsuTerran 0cz3c Last Romantic zeks Pangolin SpiritoftheTuna Unforgiven_ve Energies BloodyC0bbler iNfuNdiBuLuM SoMuchBetter Camlito bumatlarge fanatacist ieatkids5 ~OpZ~ SonuvBob Siefu butidigress xDark.Carnivalx HeRoS)Pink Abstain - 17 JoxxOr GrayArea xDark.Carnivalx HotZhot(presumed) Empyrean(presumed) Bockit MTF smurfingchobo(presumed) KH1031 Puosu(presumed) Mandalor Klive5ive crazie-penguin Amber[LighT] fusionsdf Wysp SiZ.FaNtAsY wurm 92 of 123 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night when I get time to post it, I gotta go help a friend real quick. Posted in night7/vote2_page.008 Posted in night7/vote3_page.001 On March 27 2008 11:25 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote3_page.004 On March 28 2008 13:24 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Ghar - 17 qrs BloodyC0bbler Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib GranDim fanatacist iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) NatsuTerran GeneralStan(2) wurm Showtime! - 2 CDRdude wurm(2) randombum aZnvaLiaNce Ace - 4 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm bumatlarge - 5 BlindAlbino MTF 0cz3c SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive wurm - 23 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks TranceStorm(2) Amber[LighT] zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 3 Pangolin(2) NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) useLess BloodyC0bbler(2) Abstain - 10 GrayArea L Siefu Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Klive5ive Meta KH1031 57 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote3_page.007 On March 29 2008 12:34 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: Ghar - 25 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks(2) GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge crazie-penguin Scorch(2) ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler Showtime! - 9 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 5 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf bumatlarge - 12 MTF SpiritoftheTuna d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa ~OpZ~ fanatacist NatsuTerran Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) (or you could have just kept your first vote here and moved your second one to wurm) wurm - 35 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) zeks Amber[LighT] Puosu crazie-penguin(2) Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 4 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) ~OpZ~(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive (you never made a first vote) Joe Bob Mike Gary Judith Micheal Abstain - 13 GrayArea L Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot 86 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. All this vote changing is pissing me off, I might end up putting a cap on it if this continues. Posted in night7/vote3_page.008 On March 30 2008 03:40 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: Ghar - 30 qrs Pangolin RtS)Night[Mare Camlito SonuvBob Last Romantic Alethios Lenwe Caller Naib iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks GeneralStan(2) wurm bumatlarge ieatkids5 Eti307 Romance_us JoxxOr butidigress 0cz3c Jimtudor GranDim BloodyC0bbler NatsuTerran ~OpZ~ Energies SpiritoftheTuna araav fanatacist(2) Showtime! - 11 CDRdude wurm(2) Kau(2) iNfuNdiBuLuM(2) Lenwe(2) qrs(2) ahrara_(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) nemY(2) ulszz araav(2) randombum - 2 aZnvaLiaNce SonuvBob(2) Ace - 7 Chezinu Alventenie imDerek TranceStorm fusionsdf ~OpZ~(2) Evilmonkey. bumatlarge - 11 MTF d.arkive Pangolin(2) Plexa fanatacist Eti307(2) Empyrean JoxxOr(2) Romance_us(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) Scorch(2) wurm - 35 ShaLLoW[baY] ahrara_ randombum clazziquai Falcynn suresh0t MidnightGladius Showtime! Kau Scorch Ace Artanis[Xp] GeneralStan Lysithea SoleSteeler Naib(2) Amber[LighT] Puosu Alethios(2) ZBiR Siefu Ninja4ever. BWdero Empyrean(2) Hittegods unsoundlogic decafchicken New104 nemY L zeks aZnvaLiaNce(2) LostYourSkills MTF(2) Ninja4ever - 2 NatsuTerran(2) Chezinu(2) fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls HeRoS)Pink alethios - 2 MoRe_mInErAls(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) str BlindAlbino Energies BlindAlbino Queasy - 3 ShaLLoW[baY](2) Plexa(2) Siefu KH1031 smurfingchobo Klive5ive smurfingchobo(2) BlindAlbino ZBiR(2) smurfingchobo Klive5ive Abstain - 16 GrayArea Dr.Dragoon Ghar Ziel xDark.Carnivalx Meta KH1031 Hollander LTT KF91 Bockit rpf HotZhot Wysp Supah crazie-penguin 92 of 116 possible voters accounted for. Night in an hour or so. Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:24 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote4_page.001 On April 03 2008 15:38 Chuiu wrote:April fools day was day 3.5. Posted in night7/vote4_page.003 On April 07 2008 02:25 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: araav - 2 CDRdude BlindAlbino fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 3 Plexa G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 11 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta ~OpZ~ rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies Pangolin nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf Abstain - 19 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare 43 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote4_page.004 On April 07 2008 12:36 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 10 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Abstain - 33 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 58 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Night in a couple hours. Posted in night7/vote4_page.005 On April 07 2008 14:42 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: araav - 3 CDRdude BlindAlbino qrs fusionsdf - 2 MoRe_mInErAls Naib LostYourSkills HeRoS)Pink d.arkive - 2 G.s)NarutO Energies TranceStorm - 13 aZnvaLiaNce MTF BloodyC0bbler Meta rpf L bumatlarge smurfingchobo MidnightGladius Lenwe unsoundlogic Hittegods GranDim useLess - 2 Alethios Puosu Energies - 2 Pangolin ~OpZ~ nemY BuGzlToOnl Ace fusionsdf suresh0t MasterOfChaos SoMuchBetter Plexa Ninja4ever Chezinu Abstain - 35 Kuja900 JoxxOr ShaLLoW[baY] Klive5ive Scorch LTT suresh0t GrayArea KH1031 Caller SoleSteeler Last Romantic xDark.Carnivalx Eti307 Lysithea Falcynn Siefu Evilmonkey. RtS)Night[Mare crazie-penguin fanatacist randombum Dr.Dragoon Unforgiven_ve Alventenie BWdero Amber[LighT] SpiritoftheTuna useLess butidigress decafchicken imDerek KF91 ieatkids5 Jimtudor 63 of 109 possible voters accounted for. Moving to night soon... Posted in night7/vote5_page.001 On April 10 2008 15:58 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 11:02 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: BuGzlToOnl nemY SoleSteeler Last Romantic evilmonkey. JoxxOr fusionsdf KH1031(2) HeRoS)Pink Plexa BlindAlbino MTF imDerek(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) Camlito Ace(6) HotZhot(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) Bockit(2) G.s)NarutO suresh0t(2) aZnvaLiaNce Lysithea Naib Artanis[Xp] Unforgiven_ve L NatsuTerran ~OpZ~ decafchicken smurfingchobo useLess ieatkids5 BloodyC0bbler Siefu JoxxOr(2) BlindAlbino(2) Alventenie(2) Ace(2)(6) fusionsdf(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) KH1031 SoleSteeler(2) Plexa(2) Camlito(2) ShaLLoW[baY] HotZhot RtS)Night[Mare Bockit suresh0t imDerek aZnvaLiaNce(2) Lysithea(2) Naib(2) Scorch MTF(2) G.s)NarutO(2) Artanis[Xp](2) Unforgiven_ve(2) L(2) NatsuTerran(2) ~OpZ~(2) MasterOfChaos decafchicken(2) smurfingchobo(2) useLess(2) ieatkids5(2) BloodyC0bbler(2) L zeks Alventenie SoleSteeler suresh0t qrs Alethios MasterOfChaos(2) fusiondf qrs(2) Alethios(2) Abstain Amber[LighT] xx of 100 possible voters accounted for. Voting ends in a couple hours. The list was rushed because I don't have a lot of time right now, will get it more detailed when I get back. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 15:33 Chuiu wrote:Er no updated vote count I guess. I'll toss out night post in a little bit. Posted in night7/vote5_page.004 On April 12 2008 16:37 Chuiu wrote:Then that would be the final vote count also. Posting night. Posted in night7/vote6_page.001 On April 16 2008 10:27 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote6_page.002 On April 18 2008 10:53 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO Ace Amber[LighT] SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin smurfingchobo vote to fuck L witha rake ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 10 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Naib Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks nemY BuGzlToOnl Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs 26 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 10:29 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 10 HeRoS)Pink G.s)NarutO SoleSteeler clazziquai imDerek KF91 crazie-penguin JoxxOr Naib nemY vote to fuck L witha rake which would eventually kill him ShaLLoW[baY] crazie-penguin - 21 Scorch fusionsdf Plexa MTF Alventenie Artanis[Xp] RtS)Night[Mare useLess zeks iNfuNdiBuLuM Camlito ieatkids5 Jimtudor Unforgiven_ve ~OpZ~ Dr.Dragoon Last Romantic smurfingchobo Supah Ace Amber[LighT] nemY - 2 BuGzlToOnl L Dr.Dragoon - 2 Lysithea Romance_us Alethios MoRe_mInErAls suresh0t qrs Abstain randombum 39 of 92 possible voters accounted for. Meh, final vote count and moving to night in a few hours. Posted in night7/vote6_page.003 On April 19 2008 15:04 Chuiu wrote:That would be the final vote count also then. Posted in night7/vote7_page.001 On April 23 2008 15:19 Chuiu wrote:Lynch votes must be placed here. Please keep discussion in the main thread though. Please post your vote in the form of: I vote X. Voting rules: 1. You must post your vote in the vote thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. The current day vote thread will always be linked to on this post, the day post, and it will always be in my blog if for some reason you do not see it on the previous two places. 2. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 3. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 6. You may abstain, but must let me know: ie: 'I abstain from voting'. If you must change your vote please make another post instead of editing your old one. <center></center> Posted in night7/vote7_page.002 On April 25 2008 10:07 Chuiu wrote:Vote Count: L - 32 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 26 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] 31 of 85 possible votes accounted for. Final vote count and night in a few hours. Posted in night7/vote7_page.003 On April 25 2008 15:46 Chuiu wrote:Final Vote Count: L - 34 SpiritoftheTuna clazziquai Last Romantic Naib Alethios MTF HeRoS)Pink Scorch Plexa Puosu Camlito butidigress suresh0t Ace(6) nemY zeks SoleSteeler RtS)Night[Mare ShaLLoW[baY] ~OpZ~ Eti307 imDerek Alventenie Unforgiven_ve fanatacist(assumed) Supah unsoundlogic HotZhot MasterOfChaos(2) Alethios MoRe_mInErAls Ulszz - 27 MTF(2) HeRoS)Pink(2) Scorch(2) Plexa(2) Puosu(2) Camlito(2) suresh0t(2) Ace(6)(2) qrs(2) nemY(2) zeks(2) SoleSteeler(2) RtS)Night[Mare(2) ShaLLoW[baY](2) ~OpZ~(2) Eti307(2) Alventenie(2) Naib(2) fanatacist(2)(assumed) Supah(2) unsoundlogic(2) HotZhot(2) suresh0t - 2 qrs imDerek(2) nemY BuGzlToOnl Ninja4Ever Unforgiven_ve Tracil's gay voting system Artanis[Xp] jtan MasterOfChaos 33 of 85 possible votes accounted for. + Show Spoiler [Cube] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 05:13 Cube wrote:sign me up as well + Show Spoiler [Dapperdan] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:49 Dapperdan wrote:I'm still going to help chuiu run the game. I'm sure I'll be helping him more than I did last game (only like 2 paragraphs [1 long, 1 short] before doing the entire last day; which was one of the longest mafia clue posts ever done ;o) I hope chuiu will listen to me more in the preparing of this games balance... Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:55 Dapperdan wrote:"3. New rule, you must vote. Whether its 'I abstain from voting' or not you must cast a vote" With the creation of this new rule, I would seriously consider creating a new thread where all votes are cast. In this new thread, people would simply post like this: No other posting would be allowed in the topic. It would serve as an easier way to count votes, and as a reduction on all the spammy posts that include just voting which people would make -- letting people read through the topic easier, and significantly cutting down on the pages in the topic. Vote counts could be posted in either or both topics. What do you guys think? (I would certainly love this... it'd be so much easier for me to follow) O, and chuiu you need to impose a clear punishment if you're going to enforce such a rule. Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 09:59 Dapperdan wrote: Very good point. (keeping track of vote changes is not accounted for by the vote counts at day end) Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 15 2008 03:07 Dapperdan wrote:Wow, all of those rants were comletely unnecessary and useless. ;b Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 15:01 Dapperdan wrote:You guys are going to definitely burn yourselves out very quickly if you start this ranting nonsense before the game even starts. Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:34 Dapperdan wrote: Mass fame and praise and worship and love. :D That and running mafia games can have some pretty fun aspects a person who just plays won't get to realize. + Show Spoiler [Emme] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 01:47 Emme wrote:Hey Everyone! Sign Me Up! + Show Spoiler [Eskii] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.011 On March 15 2008 13:31 Eskii wrote:/SIGNUP Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:26 Eskii wrote:how do we vote for mayor? + Show Spoiler [Folca] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 10:32 Folca wrote:Wow this is ganna be crazy Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 12:44 Folca wrote: lol his first post yippie + Show Spoiler [HeadBangaa] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.259 On April 27 2008 20:14 HeadBangaa wrote:wat + Show Spoiler [HonestTea] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:32 HonestTea wrote:SIGN UPPPP + Show Spoiler [IntoTheWow] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.105 On March 23 2008 17:19 IntoTheWow wrote:LIVE2WIN IS MAFIA + Show Spoiler [Kingkosi] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.008 On March 14 2008 14:33 Kingkosi wrote:Awwww man I want in + Show Spoiler [Masamune] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.143 On March 26 2008 12:24 Masamune wrote:I kept up with this thread after it reached 1000 posts but now.....*sigh* + Show Spoiler [Meh] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 15:45 Meh wrote:I wanna be a mad hatter, how awesome would it be to get hit or lynched and take 3 bastards with you? =) Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 16:48 Meh wrote:Good argument fusion. I'm going to make a simpler one: If you don't agree with what fusion is saying, if you dislike him, if he has wronged you in any way, if you find him suspicious, if anything about him can somehow be interpreted as the number 23, then vote for ME :D I might be easily corruptible, but you'll be hard pressed to find a more charming chap on this side of the law, haha, just kidding, or am I? Vote for me and I will begin negotiations with the mafia to ensure that if ever a townie should be murdered, at least the killer will be well dressed, and avoid the use of profanities as long as the townie doesn't struggle too much. Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:30 Meh wrote:I so wanna be a hatter :3 Posted in night7/main_page.010 On March 14 2008 19:00 Meh wrote:I hope the logic behind fingering mafias will be better once the game starts :3 + Show Spoiler [MyHeroNoob] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 MyHeroNoob wrote:sign me up Edit: oops my name is there already Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:12 MyHeroNoob wrote:Laying low as mafia works wonders only live2win suspected me in the end lulz Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 14:28 MyHeroNoob wrote:No! not dr.dragoon!! hes going to get lynched the first day! Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 18:07 MyHeroNoob wrote:I VOTE FOR FUSIONSDF FOR MAYOR + Show Spoiler [Num] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.012 On March 16 2008 02:51 Num wrote:Hmm unfortunately I'm going to be going away for awhile. I didn't quite expect this so sorry but can you removed me from the list + Show Spoiler [Quesadilla] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:02 Quesadilla wrote:Hmmm, should I play? + Show Spoiler [Sadir] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:07 Sadir wrote:I vote for randombum Posted in night7/vote1_page.002 On March 18 2008 19:08 Sadir wrote:as mayor + Show Spoiler [Southlight] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.004 On March 13 2008 17:04 Southlight wrote:Take me out of the game, tried to be active last game as much as possible (only missed one vote) but with even more people, it's too much for me to keep track of. + Show Spoiler [Umbrella] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.002 On March 13 2008 15:15 Umbrella wrote:I'd like to join, it looks so fun! But hopefully I won't screw up too badly :< + Show Spoiler [ZaplinG] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.001 On March 13 2008 14:18 ZaplinG wrote::o good luck everyone Posted in night7/main_page.006 On March 14 2008 05:06 ZaplinG wrote:Im in, Amber[LighT] ^^ Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 09:06 ZaplinG wrote:i just noticed i wasn't in this round... ohwell, its probably for the best as i dont know how active i would be Posted in night7/main_page.154 On March 27 2008 14:22 ZaplinG wrote:the townies seem a lot more organized this go around than they did when i played, haha + Show Spoiler [ZianG] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.254 On April 24 2008 06:55 ZianG wrote:whoa o_o + Show Spoiler [GTR-2-Go] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:02 GTR-2-Go wrote:<marquee>Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low.</marquee> Moving too! + Show Spoiler [Hot_Bid] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.040 On March 19 2008 08:55 Hot_Bid wrote: Unfortunately these two people playing are the same guy, the IP check confirms. Pretty BM if you ask me to register two accounts to play when it's so important for the game that you don't know who the other side are. You guys should vote on whether we should ban him Edit: Sucks that some people have to cheat even in friendly forum games. Posted in night7/main_page.088 On March 22 2008 01:41 Hot_Bid wrote:you guys should organize mafia or town IRC channels, that would speed things up quite a bit + Show Spoiler [Kennigit] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:00 Kennigit wrote:<marquee><font size ="6"> Voting rules, since people always need it spelled out. 1. You must clearly declare your vote ie: 'I vote for X'. Votes such as "I'll pick this guy" or "I want him to die" are not acceptable. 2. You can not autochange your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 3. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. 4. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses!) over the other person. 5. You may abstain. 6. You must post your vote in the thread, I decided I don't like people IM'ing me or PM'ing me their votes, it lets them lay too low. Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:01 Kennigit wrote:Caps Bold and Red. Super Serial + Show Spoiler [Live2Win] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 14 2008 00:45 Live2Win wrote:ugh....... are we seriously going to have over a hundred people playing? I don't know if I want to go through this again........... Posted in night7/main_page.056 On March 20 2008 07:06 Live2Win wrote: ORLY?! *evil smirk* + Show Spoiler + (btw I'm not playing so plz don't take this post seriously) Posted in night7/main_page.194 On April 08 2008 15:15 Live2Win wrote:thought I poke my little head around here. So glad I'm not tied to my computer looking through the 100+ pages tying evidence together. I think I'll play the next game though. + Show Spoiler [pachi] + + Show Spoiler [[GiTM] + -Ace] <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.013 On March 17 2008 11:39 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:oh people haven't confirmed? theres hope for me yet! :D Posted in night7/main_page.014 On March 18 2008 10:02 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:so its the next day did everyone confirm? :D Posted in night7/main_page.016 On March 18 2008 13:23 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:does this mean I didn't get in Posted in night7/main_page.135 On March 25 2008 15:39 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:I hope some people miss some votes so I can get in this game And ride the townies to victory Posted in night7/main_page.148 On March 27 2008 11:34 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:adding that as a quote O_O Posted in night7/main_page.175 On March 30 2008 08:14 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:I could have sworn the town voted on the course of action for tonight.... Posted in night7/main_page.220 On April 14 2008 00:12 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:This thread has gotten so much better over the past few days. No more useless spam like before Posted in night7/main_page.230 + Show Spoiler [bp1696] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.166 On March 28 2008 15:00 bp1696 wrote:As an outside observer, I have to say that Showtime!'s behavior has detracted from the fun of this game. I used to take a quick look every now and again at this thread even without playing because it was fun to see clues being analyzed and accusations thrown around. Showtime!'s arrogant attitude and spamming of this thread has destroyed, at least for me, the enjoyment of reading about this game, and although the quality of both the town and the mafia seems increased this time, the quality of this thread has decreased. + Show Spoiler [evanthebouncy!] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.003 On March 13 2008 16:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:Wait whaa I'm not in? I want in!!! + Show Spoiler [gwho] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.004 + Show Spoiler [ilj.psa] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 06:39 ilj.psa wrote:sign me up Posted in night7/main_page.032 On March 19 2008 06:44 ilj.psa wrote:nvm Posted in night7/vote1_page.005 On March 19 2008 06:52 ilj.psa wrote:i vote for randombum. + Show Spoiler [kyjori] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.007 On March 14 2008 07:56 kyjori wrote:SIGN ME UP + Show Spoiler [ssj100] + <not playing> Posted in night7/vote1_page.001 On March 18 2008 16:06 ssj100 wrote:I vote plexa. + Show Spoiler [zdd] + <not playing> Posted in night7/main_page.005 On March 13 2008 23:09 zdd wrote:strict cycles for the game can still be done even if you don't have time to post, just measure out exactly 48 hours after each day/night post, and only the votes/whatever up till then counts. 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well, updated till night 7 | ||
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On April 30 2008 15:24 araav wrote: well, updated till night 7 Many thanks! | ||
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