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Forcing yourself, an insomniac, to sleep?
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Raithed
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Pwntrucci[sR]
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nofAcedAgent
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EDIT: Valarien Root[natural] ; Sleep Aid[not] | ||
zatic
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Join Fight Club. No, seriously, I find regular workout / sports work well. But you have to commit yourself to a hard and challenging schedule. It doesn't help if you just work out when you can't sleep, you have to do a full program to see any effect. At least that's how it works out for me. | ||
NonY
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imBLIND
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NonY
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And note that if you fuck up one day by sleeping in late or by staying up later than your bedtime (once you establish your bedtime) then you will be fucked for a few days and will have to stay strict and be patient to get back on course. | ||
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
From what I've been told, there's nothing you can really do about insomnia other than wait for it to pass naturally; all you can really do is use something to help you sleep - luckily it doesn't take full scale sleeping pills or anything. I believe it's usually induced by stress, odd sleeping habits, and maybe one or two other similar issues. I'd recommend trying to get yourself on a consistent sleep schedule, and cutting a little stress out of your life if possible. | ||
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grobo
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I find that if i grab a beer and go watch some TV i usually get sleepy as hell after a while, maybe try that. | ||
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Raithed
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On April 08 2008 06:47 NonY[rC] wrote: Oh and some more things you should strictly follow: no caffeine or other stimulants after mid day and no food close to your bedtime. And note that if you fuck up one day by sleeping in late or by staying up later than your bedtime (once you establish your bedtime) then you will be fucked for a few days and will have to stay strict and be patient to get back on course. I drink a lot of water, I drink soda once awhile. On April 08 2008 06:47 Macavenger wrote: Not sure exactly what level of insomnia you're talking about here, but when I had it in college to the point where I literally couldn't sleep for a couple weeks, the student medical center gave me normal over the counter antihistamine (diphenhydramine I think?). Apparently the stuff makes you drowsy enough to cut through the insomnia so you can start sleeping. From what I've been told, there's nothing you can really do about insomnia other than wait for it to pass naturally; all you can really do is use something to help you sleep - luckily it doesn't take full scale sleeping pills or anything. I believe it's usually induced by stress, odd sleeping habits, and maybe one or two other similar issues. I'd recommend trying to get yourself on a consistent sleep schedule, and cutting a little stress out of your life if possible. An example of how bad is... I went to bed at 7AM on Saturday, I woke up at 4PM. But during school days it's 5AM-(depending on schedule)10AM/12PM. Oh, and I never take naps. Is it possible to just lay in bed and just, stare at something? Or what? Because usually I just lay there, without doing anything, then I just think. And thinking keeps me awake. | ||
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Warbux
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Yogurt
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like running a marathon or something, then go to sleep early that night and you should be back on track | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
if you really need to sleep, go to bed in a dark room, with no computer or tv on and close your eyes. keep your eyes closed, avoid moving unless you develop a cramp for some reason, and just let your mind flow. Dont try to block out thoughts, but dont try to actively steer them either. You just sort of observe them without attaching to them. Eventually when youve worked through all your stressors, extra thoughts etc it gets easier to sleep. if its not crucial to go to sleep on time, dont worry about it. stressing over it just makes it harder. | ||
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Raithed
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pyrogenetix
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so many people i'm with always try to act tough and cool after we play sports like "wow omg can you believe that i'm not tired yet?" well yea dipshit you didn't fuckin run HARD if you really are indeed superman and can run for like 6 days straight then get on a fuckin dynamo and start help create electricity. until then take your insomnia and shove it up your ass. i mean, most people I know that have insomnia... what do they do? nothing. they just sit around waiting as if expecting a big cup of sleepiness to slap them right across the face. if you're sitting around doing nothing well then you're not getting tired. if you're not getting tired no shit it's not gonna help you get to sleep. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 08 2008 07:29 Raithed wrote: How about music, does it help or not really? no I mean if you really want to listen to a song a couple times before you go to bed, or have a song stuck in your head go for it. but you should turn it off after like 20 minutes max and dont use it as a sleep aid | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On April 08 2008 07:36 pyrogenetix wrote: i don't understand how people can have insomnia. it's just one of those things that don't make sense, like a laptop battery that doesn't die. wtf? that's not possible. if you have a lot of energy, then deplete your fucking batteries. whenever I'm out playing table tennis or swimming or soccer and i push myself really hard I always get back and i can barely keep my arms up and i sleep like a sack of shit. so many people i'm with always try to act tough and cool after we play sports like "wow omg can you believe that i'm not tired yet?" well yea dipshit you didn't fuckin run HARD if you really are indeed superman and can run for like 6 days straight then get on a fuckin dynamo and start help create electricity. until then take your insomnia and shove it up your ass. i mean, most people I know that have insomnia... what do they do? nothing. they just sit around waiting as if expecting a big cup of sleepiness to slap them right across the face. if you're sitting around doing nothing well then you're not getting tired. if you're not getting tired no shit it's not gonna help you get to sleep. Its more stress and repression than physical exhaustion I think. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
how is sleeping from 5-12 insomnia? that's a perfectly normal amount of sleep just at the wrong time. wake up at whenever you need to wake up every day (gonna guess its something like 7) and dont take naps. if you wake up at 7 everyday and still can't fall asleep by say 1am, even though you take no naps, are energetic whole day, and it's been over a week, then props to you. use that extra time to get some work done. | ||
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clazziquai
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just kidding  hows the FAP mission going | ||
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Macavenger
United States1132 Posts
On April 08 2008 07:01 Raithed wrote: An example of how bad is... I went to bed at 7AM on Saturday, I woke up at 4PM. But during school days it's 5AM-(depending on schedule)10AM/12PM. Oh, and I never take naps. Is it possible to just lay in bed and just, stare at something? Or what? Because usually I just lay there, without doing anything, then I just think. And thinking keeps me awake. Yeah, this isn't insomnia. This is just you having a screwed up sleep cycle. My advice for this would be to just skip a night of sleep. Pick some night where you don't have much important you have to do the next day and just don't go to bed. Try to stay up until like 9-10pm if you can, then get up at 7-8am the next morning, and try to get yourself used to a schedule similar to that. It's probably not the best method to fix your cycle exactly, but it's definitely the fastest. | ||
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