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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 21 2008 01:34 fight_or_flight wrote: I love how the op is the only one questioning anything, everyone else is just full of themselves. maybe the questioning has been done, and done better, but done and done with. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On March 21 2008 00:15 Jayson X wrote: Well it all comes down to what kind of priest you'd like to become. You forgot shadowpriest. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
no. the fact that you know i dont enjoy babies dieing, and the fact that you know stuff about christianity and you are STILL talking about retarded shit that is happening in every aspect of life as well as christianity. (bad priests etc.) I would expect a little appreciation for a religion you've known for so long. Or are you too stupid to see the good stuff about christianity? So many things from christianity are so wise and true. I would have no problems living according to it, coz it seems right. There are things i dont agree with, but not many. However my problem is, im questioning the very foundation of this entire religion. How can I talk to people if i dont believe in it? On March 20 2008 23:12 Naib wrote: Don't worry, God (should he exist) sure doesn't love you after such a silly blog entry. Problem solved. im actually tryin to piss him off, maybe he'll send me a sign. (maybe i get banned by Jesus... "i have my reasons" lol) --- also, KaasZerg and ManBearPig, ty for the serious posts. It really is complicated. --- micronesia, i think so too, but what could i do now? I would like to be like a spiritual teacher, but i cant become a catholic priest if i dont believe in the basics of religion. I cant just walk in the streets like a lunatic. I must be able to earn for food or something. --- oneof them, care to share your wisdom? --- incontrol, you got issues, i noticed that a while ago. | ||
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Chobo.ReV
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iNcontroL
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
Tipical of teamliquid | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
"Many people say "If God loves us, how can he let inocent people die." I dont care about that. If the whole religion thing is true, it really doesnt matter what happens on this earth. If an innocent child dies, it goes to heaven, so what more can we ask? so the child is OK.An other thing is bothering me however. If God loves us 1000X more than a father loves his child, how can he let any of us go to hell? Why doesnt he bother to tell us we're going in the wrong direction?" - God wants faith from us, is the thing that keeps Christianity close with him .Imagine if you don’t believe in God and suddenly God talks and tells you and says that you are going to hell since you don’t believe. You would be a fool if you didn’t believe him then because he just appeared in front of you taking away all doubts of his existence and he just assure you that there is indeed a God, it would require no faith if God would do this , but what he wants is like John 20:29 says “Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.". | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
@snet, no. the fact that you know i dont enjoy babies dieing, and the fact that you know stuff about christianity and you are STILL talking about retarded shit that is happening in every aspect of life as well as christianity. (bad priests etc.) I would expect a little appreciation for a religion you've known for so long. Or are you too stupid to see the good stuff about christianity? If the whole religion thing is true, it really doesnt matter what happens on this earth. If an innocent child dies, it goes to heaven, so what more can we ask? so the child is OK. Minus my sarcasm, my comment still stands. Thinking it is ok when children are killed is a disgusting mentality that some christians are lured into. I know this wasn't the focus of your blog, and I didn't intend to make it that way. So yes, in whatever religion you follow, if it makes you feel it is ok when people die, then I believe you missed the whole point of the religion, and you need to sit down and think really hard about what you're believing. To answer you, no I don't really respect christianity. I respect the Bible, I've actually read it and aside from the fairy-tale like stories there's some great life lessons you can learn. I do not respect churches, in my experience with more churches then I can count on my hands it's all about: money, hell, more money, hell, recruiting more people, getting more money, hell, money, money, hell, recruit, and hell. Read the Bible, apply why you learn, and live your life. For me, I don't believe in god, hell, or anything like that, but I do still enjoy learning about religions. My advice, don't become a priest, become a religious scholar. Study all of the religions, learn all that you can, and apply what you believe can be true. Don't be drone listening to a certain religion. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
I don't think there is one though, because... well if I think there is one then so what? Nothing has changed(I still love the same, still talk the same, and go to school) but I had to think all those extra thoughts(praise some entity, try to attend church, w/e) which takes up my brain space for me to bother. Really of church is one of your good hobbies you should make it a professional hobby, and have fun in doing so. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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BaDayOri
Korea (South)469 Posts
On March 21 2008 01:25 ManBearPig wrote: My advice: look for something better, christianity is really too outdated, people are too critical and curious these days, the 'God works in mysterious ways' thingie is not at all satisfying anymore. since when has christianity been about satisfying ourselves? but honestly i dont know where i stand in my faith right now either | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
So many things from christianity are so wise and true. I would have no problems living according to it, coz it seems right. There are things i dont agree with, but not many. Here's the thing. Just as you say, Christianity supports some very good things, but it also supports things you don't agree with. Now, if what you've been taught is truly what God wants, then you should accept all of it. If you can't do that (and I sympathize, it's very difficult to agree with a lot of the things) then you should ask yourself what is causing you to judge some parts of the religion as good and other parts as bad. If you know some parts are good and other parts are bad, then there's something external to religion that's telling you so. That's my take on morality. It's universal, man made (just as religion is), but also helpful to society. I suggest you read some Bertrand Russel. The point of secular humanism is that people can be moral, and good because of our own merit, and not by relying on a mystical or divine being. If the latter were true, then you'd follow every aspect of Christianity rather than judging some parts to be good and other parts to be bad. since when has christianity been about satisfying ourselves? You don't like to satisfy your curiosity? Use logic, reason and evidence to answer questions? | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
Theres not really a point in telling you my opinions on the subjects you dicussed as the majority of the answers are personal truths if they hold any truth at all. Instead I can cite a really good book that discusses how man handles these unsolvable problems. The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus Wikipedia quote: The Myth of Sisyphus is a philosophical essay by Albert Camus. It comprises about 120 pages and was published originally in 1942 in French as Le Mythe de Sisyphe; the English translation by Justin O'Brien followed in 1955. In the essay, Camus introduces his philosophy of the absurd: man's futile search for meaning, unity and clarity in the face of an unintelligible world devoid of God and eternity. Does the realization of the absurd require suicide? Camus answers: "No. It requires revolt." He then outlines several approaches to the absurd life. The final chapter compares the absurdity of man's life with the situation of Sisyphus, a figure of Greek mythology who was condemned to repeat forever the same meaningless task of pushing a rock up a mountain, only to see it roll down again. Eh just my 2cts | ||
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ShmotZ
United States581 Posts
its called the 10 commandments, those are gods rules, and just like any other father you would find if you disobey his rules he'll punish you , and Hell to God is his punishment of you living an unjustly life and he does tell you are going in the wrong direction you ever feel guilty about something? or maybe something doesnt seem comfortable obviously thats because its wrong your supposed to use the 10 commands to build a safe zone of what to do and not to do. [quote]For the last few years, the thought of becoming a priest was always in the back of my mind coz the christianity thing felt so REAL for me. I was pretty sure I felt that 'calling' as they call it. Anyways, I always think "what if there is no god, and i become a priest, gg life."[quote] if your going to question is there really a god, or your own faith, i dont think you should become a priest then, priests are supposed to like sheperds and lead the herd to heaven, but if you cant completly your religion the only thing youll be doing is condemming there eternal souls. [quote]Well, Jesus is not dead, he was dead for 3 days. He came to earth, told a few stories, went thru a torture that btw millions of people get thru every day. But those people die for real, he came back to life. thats ez.[quote] here your just summing up his life, this is like me saying that you were born, then you died, skip the fact that you found the cure for cancer, and aids all you did was live and die, you have to remember jesus died for our sins, so that we could have another chance to get back into heaven and be forgiven by god for killing his son, remember god used to flood the earth, hed burn citys he wasnt so forgiving >.>.... so dont take what you have for granted you sound more agnostic the christian ._. if you are agnostic you can go ahead and ignore this whole post | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
Yes, my child. | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
Assuming he exists, how would we know if he experiences love? How do we define "love" in the first place? Assuming god exists, I would argue that god does not experience love. If he loves us, then why do natural disasters occur? Why did a tsunami kill thousands of people in Asia? Why did Hurricane Katrina almost destroy New Orleans? So no, I would argue that god does not experience love, assuming he exists. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On March 21 2008 05:20 rpf wrote: Well, using logic, we can't prove that god exists or does not exist. God must first exist before he can love. Assuming he exists, how would we know if he experiences love? How do we define "love" in the first place? Assuming god exists, I would argue that god does not experience love. If he loves us, then why do natural disasters occur? Why did a tsunami kill thousands of people in Asia? Why did Hurricane Katrina almost destroy New Orleans? So no, I would argue that god does not experience love, assuming he exists. and before god can exist the eternal has to exist first? lol. | ||
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1133 Posts
We know abso-100%-fucking true they existed, but no mention in the freaking Bible. When I used to go to church with my family I asked my Mormon buddy why, and he just says it is just so, and smiled a real blank smile. WTF. God loves you in a way so impossibly awesome but if you do wrong he'll send you to hell into an infernal torture of never return. I mean seriously, the Old Testament is all about God having a PMS killing off everybody, but suddenly, after he has a kid, he's all COOL and MOTHER FUCKING MERCIFUL. I mean jeez, there are so many contradictory statements in it, acts of incest, Leviticus bullshit and messages of logical fallacies any half intelligent man can see. And to RPF: "Do you think unicorns have hollow horns?" "Can you prove there is a super Nintendo floating on the rings of Saturn in another parallel universe?" "What am I if I am not you?" Some questions are simply too absurd to answer, let us not be so open minded that our heads fall off, accordance with our "God given brains and minds". | ||
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geometryb
United States1249 Posts
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