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Anybody seen those? Dirty propoganda if you ask me. Drugs can do bad things, but not weed. There's a whole subculture in America trying to get weed legalized and these commercials are just the kind of propoganda we don't need.
I especially like the one where it's like, some teenage girl was like "OMG That party saturday was so awesome... what I can remember of it anyways!"
Then her friend shows her some picture (assumingly of her doing something she'd rather not share with the world) and she's like "oh man, that must have been saturday night..."
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"I was soooo high."
That's a straight up misrepresentation of the effects of marijuana. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE if marijuana made girls take their clothes off and forget about it... but it just doesn't do that. That's what alcohol does. And that's why alcohol is a far superior substance.
Anyways, I was talking to a friend just now, and I think we came up with a great idea to get back at these commercials.
Here's the premise:
"Johnny was a cool kid. He was smart and funny, he went to parties, and everybody liked him.
Then one day, he went to church.
He's just not the same anymore. All he ever talks about anymore is some invisible man in the sky. He just sort of... stopped being Johnny."
What do you think?
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I am doing a debate/speech topic on legalizing weed for medicinal purposes only. Should be pretty easy, just need to find all the different research findings of how it has helped people... =)
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wow, turning the "above the influence" commercials into a church parody would be amazing in so many ways.
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On February 27 2008 18:11 Metal[x] wrote:
I am doing a debate/speech topic on legalizing weed for medicinal purposes only. Should be pretty easy, just need to find all the different research findings of how it has helped people... =)
if you changed it to say... "personal use", and "medical".... I'd agree with you. 
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Well, one of my best friends is a regular weed user since years. He can't focus on his studies anymore, even when he tries. And he wasn't a dumbass to begin with...so go and shove up weed in your ***, and be happy 'bout it has "no side effect". Yeah right.
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United States22883 Posts
Drugs can do bad things, but not weed. Weed has NO be effects, eh?
How about we start with "Makes you annoying as fuck to everyone else around you."
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Belgium8305 Posts
this stuff makes you wonder why they're fighting weed in the first place, when they're knowingly providing false arguments against it
i guess the commercial wouldn't really be as useful if the chick was like "wow, i got so stoned i didn't do anything last night and i'm feeling kind of lazy now"
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On February 27 2008 21:34 Naib wrote:
Well, one of my best friends is a regular weed user since years. He can't focus on his studies anymore, even when he tries. And he wasn't a dumbass to begin with...so go and shove up weed in your ***, and be happy 'bout it has "no side effect". Yeah right.
Maybe your friend is lazy and is just starting to realize that college isn't as easy as high school?
On February 27 2008 22:59 vGl-CoW wrote:
this stuff makes you wonder why they're fighting weed in the first place, when they're knowingly providing false arguments against it
i guess the commercial wouldn't really be as useful if the chick was like "wow, i got so stoned i didn't do anything last night and i'm feeling kind of lazy now"
Probably, haha. That's the only major one. And shit, I've never seen girls get nekked cuz of weed. If anything, weed makes it harder to break the ice because everyone is so stoned and not really social.
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Cannabis should be legalized. The crap they say about it on TV is usually way off.
Still, cannabis is not safe for the brain or for the body, and all the risks should be known by anyone who uses it. Granted, it is a lot safer than alcohol.
It is unwise to think you can play with your brain chemistry day in and day out and not suffer consequences. They may not be immediately apparent, but there will be consequences. It is unwise to think you can inhale thick smoke day in and day out and not suffer consequences. Again, they may not be immediately apparent, but there will be consequences.
Let people wreck their health if they want to, I say.
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More on topic, though: yes, the commercials are insane. They are ludicrous.
One that comes to mind is the one of a teenager describing his brother. Essentially the idea is that this kid's brother smoked a lot of weed, and nothing bad ever happened to him as a result of it. However his brother is a big underachiever and just sits on the couch getting high all day. So here we have this kind of crazy American Dream propaganda, that we should all be out studying our lives away, working our lives away, so that we can get fancy credentials and big houses and lots of flashy neat crap. If you aren't on the ol' hamster wheel of workaholism, you are nothing.
I hate how the media tries to guilt trip us all into thinking we have to work our asses off and make a lot of money and get fancy titles in order to be a valuable human being.
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United States4146 Posts
I am personally pro legalization of a plethora of recreational drugs but when all is said and done, I wouldn't use any such drugs myself. Same goes for religion. My mind is my sanctuary. I like to keep it sharp and working at its peak efficiency. I do not need anything to influence my reality or perception that I can not already do with my imagination and will.
So yeah, I agree with the message to live above the influence, but I wouldn't ram it down anyones eye sockets and if I were into anti-drug campaigns I would put my focus on the two most harmful drugs by far: alcohol and tabacco. As for the illegal drugs I think meth, glue sniffing and i.v. drugs are far more important to address.
Misrepresentation and untruths are always wrong because the first rules in prevention are understanding reality as it is followed by real education; with out this, one is just wasting time and money.
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United States22883 Posts
On February 28 2008 01:27 nA.Inky wrote:
Cannabis should be legalized. The crap they say about it on TV is usually way off.
Still, cannabis is not safe for the brain or for the body, and all the risks should be known by anyone who uses it. Granted, it is a lot safer than alcohol.
It is unwise to think you can play with your brain chemistry day in and day out and not suffer consequences. They may not be immediately apparent, but there will be consequences. It is unwise to think you can inhale thick smoke day in and day out and not suffer consequences. Again, they may not be immediately apparent, but there will be consequences.
Let people wreck their health if they want to, I say. Agreed.
More on topic, though: yes, the commercials are insane. They are ludicrous.
One that comes to mind is the one of a teenager describing his brother. Essentially the idea is that this kid's brother smoked a lot of weed, and nothing bad ever happened to him as a result of it. However his brother is a big underachiever and just sits on the couch getting high all day. So here we have this kind of crazy American Dream propaganda, that we should all be out studying our lives away, working our lives away, so that we can get fancy credentials and big houses and lots of flashy neat crap. If you aren't on the ol' hamster wheel of workaholism, you are nothing.
I hate how the media tries to guilt trip us all into thinking we have to work our asses off and make a lot of money and get fancy titles in order to be a valuable human being.
The image of the lazy pothead isn't advocating "workaholism", as much as it's advocating "do-something-ism." You don't have to go to college or work in an office to contribute to society, but you SHOULD try to contribute in some way. It's the reason they showcase the lazy stoner in those commercials rather than the pot smoking artists or musician. Clearly not everyone that smokes marijuana sits around all day watching TV and playing video games, but some people do, and I have every reason to ridicule those people.
The worst part of the commercials is when they have the stern mother saying those are the rules because she says so. I don't know any teenagers that would bow down to such an idiotic statement. Personally, I think the "Think" anti-smoking ads are more annoying than the anti-weed ones.
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On February 27 2008 21:34 Naib wrote:
Well, one of my best friends is a regular weed user since years. He can't focus on his studies anymore, even when he tries. And he wasn't a dumbass to begin with...so go and shove up weed in your ***, and be happy 'bout it has "no side effect". Yeah right.
I think your friend is a dumbass.
Of course weed has side-effects, but none of them are anywhere near as bad as alcohol, and that's legal pretty much everywhere.
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LOL that is the best idea i have ever heard (regarding the OP, i havent been reading the ensuing flame war over the legitimacy of weed)
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On February 28 2008 01:27 nA.Inky wrote:
More on topic, though: yes, the commercials are insane. They are ludicrous.
QFT.
The "Above the Influence" commercials are ludicrous. There are plenty of productive marijuana users out there.
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United States24805 Posts
I agree with a few people here that too many people seem to think that weed has virtually no side effects. It's also a lot harder to make a case for banning alcohol in comparison to weed... alcohol, in proper amounts, is good, and/or neutral. That's not true for weed.
Edit: BTW I saw the OP's commercial with the girl who doesn't remember the weekend... but... did they actually say, or specifically imply weed? There are other explanations that work...
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hahaha good luck going against government propaganda.
i was really afraid of weed too and thought it made you go crazy, but after trying it i really dont see what all the fuss is about. i would totally legalize it lol. i mean its basically the same as smoking cigarettes, to me at least. btw i dont smoke so i get reeeeally buzzed from nicotine.
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alcohol isn't bad, if u don't abuse it. there are people who use alcohol to get fucked up, so they look cool or some gay shit like that. anything too much can be bad for you. that means, weed can be as bad as alcohol, if u abuse it hard. it might not be as bad as alcohol, but it can do some harm on u.
and i can totally call on ppl who smoke weed. this friend of mine, i met him and i immediately knew he smoked weed. the way he talked, like "heyyyy mannnn yooooo,, wanna goooooo sk8? whats up dawggggg, duudeeeee"
even though hes a very smart guy who helps out ppl do better in college, hes a big stoner, who talks like a retard. i asked him if he blazes, and he said he does it a lot.
also, theres another friend of mine on my floor who smokes a lot and he talks just like this guy i mentioned above. hes cool though, but anyone can tell hes a stoner.
driving when ur high has a greater chance of killing you and ur friends, and also innocent people.
go to erowid.com, it does have negative effects.
btw, i used to smoke weed, but i quit now.
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I don't know why people that spent their lives researching people's health didn't just ask a random weed smoking dude how he felt, it would have saved a lot of money?
In addition I'll drop by my wife's work and tell the ones with psychosis triggered by weed to just get out of there, because after all, pyrogenetix is just fine and the rest is just propaganda.
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On February 28 2008 03:28 micronesia wrote:
I agree with a few people here that too many people seem to think that weed has virtually no side effects. It's also a lot harder to make a case for banning alcohol in comparison to weed... alcohol, in proper amounts, is good, and/or neutral. That's not true for weed.
Edit: BTW I saw the OP's commercial with the girl who doesn't remember the weekend... but... did they actually say, or specifically imply weed? There are other explanations that work...
Please don't post if you know absolutely nothing. Show me a medicinal case of CONSUMABLE alcohol please. And also, your logic is extremely flawed because you talk about "proper amounts" of alcohol... the amount of weed is takes to die from is astronomical, impossible to do with every day resources. Alcohol, on the other hand, may be slightly healthy in low dosage, but kills with a relatively low dosage also.
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