• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:07
CEST 21:07
KST 04:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 5/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9264 users

Ask iNcontroL - Page 13

Blogs > {88}iNcontroL
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 60 Next
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 15:11 GMT
#241
On May 01 2009 18:07 Rekrul wrote:
on a scale of 1-10, how bad is artosis at starcraft?


Supposing the higher the number the badder the artosis: 10.

Anyone who manages to lose with arclite cannons, nuclear weapons and 75 mineral units with 3 splash damage weapons that get up and run after you is terribad.
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
May 01 2009 17:26 GMT
#242
On May 01 2009 21:51 Snet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2009 14:49 Vharox wrote:
On May 01 2009 14:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On May 01 2009 14:38 Railxp wrote:

1. What is your favorite word?
2. What is your least favorite word?
3. What turns you on creatively, spiritually or emotionally?
4. What turns you off?
5. What is your favorite curse word?
6. What sound or noise do you love?
7. What sound or noise do you hate?
8. What profession other than your own would you like to attempt?
9. What profession would you not like to do?
10. If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?

Unoriginal, but fun to hear the answers to none the less.
(pluspoints to anyone else who knows where these questions are from =D)


6. amazing orchestra/opera music

omg i love you


good ol vharon

you just made me smile.

really big
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-01 18:06:27
May 01 2009 18:05 GMT
#243
I've got a question.
What are some fun/strange Zerg builds?
Something not standard.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 18:08 GMT
#244
On May 02 2009 03:05 Trozz wrote:
I've got a question.
What are some fun/strange Zerg builds?
Something not standard.


any lurker opening.
"Man style" hydra/lurk zvt
"crazy zerg" which is muta -> skip lurker hive -> ultraling.

Bout it as far as viable strat/bo's go.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 01 2009 18:49 GMT
#245
is it impossible on any of the played maps to go mass ling ---> burrow ----> crackling ----> ultra ?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 19:00 GMT
#246
On May 02 2009 03:49 travis wrote:
is it impossible on any of the played maps to go mass ling ---> burrow ----> crackling ----> ultra ?


Mu? Impossible? No, viable? Certainly not vs anyone good.

it can be done sure.. but it isn't advisable.
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
May 01 2009 19:25 GMT
#247
On May 02 2009 03:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 03:05 Trozz wrote:
I've got a question.
What are some fun/strange Zerg builds?
Something not standard.


any lurker opening.
"Man style" hydra/lurk zvt
"crazy zerg" which is muta -> skip lurker hive -> ultraling.

Bout it as far as viable strat/bo's go.


what about

osl offline spoilers ahead
+ Show Spoiler +
gorush guardian ultra rushing iris 2 games in a row
wraiths go pew pew
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 19:59 GMT
#248
On May 02 2009 04:25 spydernoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 03:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On May 02 2009 03:05 Trozz wrote:
I've got a question.
What are some fun/strange Zerg builds?
Something not standard.


any lurker opening.
"Man style" hydra/lurk zvt
"crazy zerg" which is muta -> skip lurker hive -> ultraling.

Bout it as far as viable strat/bo's go.


what about

osl offline spoilers ahead
+ Show Spoiler +
gorush guardian ultra rushing iris 2 games in a row


offbeat builds are more common on that level as oppose to standard safe play because those players are so dangerous and so well versed that it usually takes some kind of map favored tactic or mu favored tactic to gain a win. Unless the player is so far in advance like Jaedong who will literally pre 9 drone scout to look for proxy or cheese.. these are things that you as a foreigner don't need to employ or emulate but can take into consideration when regarding these players.

I prefer to play an offbeat style. Not because I am so far in advance but because it is fun for me. That is why I am a mechanical slob who doesn't win consistently in tourneys.. sometimes I catch fire and do really well and other times I get shut down.

If you are looking to be a great and consistent player you want to work on the basics before getting to the more advanced stage which is intelligently employing less than common bo's /tactics.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 01 2009 20:19 GMT
#249
do you or does anyone still go on west or no
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-01 20:21:56
May 01 2009 20:21 GMT
#250
incontrol why did you say to me that you were going to do "man style" hydra only zvt vs A2 in TSL Ro48 then chicken out and go standard? i was really disappointed.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 20:28 GMT
#251
On May 02 2009 05:19 zulu_nation8 wrote:
do you or does anyone still go on west or no


I don't and as far as I know nobody does

Although nyoken has in his profile "by.nyoken" which is his west ID so maybe he still does.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 20:33 GMT
#252
On May 02 2009 05:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
incontrol why did you say to me that you were going to do "man style" hydra only zvt vs A2 in TSL Ro48 then chicken out and go standard? i was really disappointed.


Well that is a good question actually cause I think it speaks volumes to what my psychology was during that match.

Man style is especially good on a map like longinus where with 2 lurkers you can secure a 2 gas expansion fairly easily and that is key to man style as having lots of lurkers is really gas heavy in addition to the mass hydras with upgrades. That map favors that style given all the high grounds and the previously mentioned dual gas natural. That was the plan going in to the match! However I had never played an online tourney with the magnitude that was TSL. TLT2 was big, biggest at the time, but it was nothing in comparison. Getting A2, a seasoned and dangerous opponent first round of the biggest online tourney I have ever played actually managed to rattle me. Something I pride myself on being immune to. I fell back on old habits and relied on a lurker opening (if I remember correctly) that was aggressive and fast and risky.

That can actually be applied to my epic concluding game vs him on zodiac. I love ultras, don't get me wrong, but to avoid conventional play and go right into ultras was a risk i shouldn't have taken. But even given the fact that I did, I should have waited when he did that first push until my upgrade was finished while only really suffering the loss of a few sunkens to smash it to pieces with my ultras. A lot of "what ifs" but I attribute that to what I discussed in reply to your question!

I could have it wrong.. I cannot remember what map I won on but I was pretty sure I lost on longinus for that reason.
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
May 01 2009 20:40 GMT
#253
Inc, how long did it take you from being a campaign-playing noob to being recognized as a "good" player?
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 01 2009 20:46 GMT
#254
On May 02 2009 05:40 Nosmo wrote:
Inc, how long did it take you from being a campaign-playing noob to being recognized as a "good" player?


I played the campaign for maybe a month. From there I started to play 1v1 games with my friends via dial up modem. Then we went to bnet and played the ladder.. mind you this was back before hacking and the worst thing people did was disconnect.

I was "kinda" good at that time.. nothing special in the community. Got 1500 ladder rating which put me in the upper levels of legit gamers after about a year of playing. Joined a clan called "DA" and started to get noticed.. after a few clan movements for around a year I eventually created {88} with Stranix and from there it is all history

So to answer your question about 2 years before I was considered publicly anything "good."
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 01 2009 21:03 GMT
#255
On May 02 2009 04:00 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 03:49 travis wrote:
is it impossible on any of the played maps to go mass ling ---> burrow ----> crackling ----> ultra ?


Mu? Impossible? No, viable? Certainly not vs anyone good.

it can be done sure.. but it isn't advisable.


i was definitely thinking zvt
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2009 01:04 GMT
#256
incontrol ive always had a question in the back of my mind about your game but never remembered to ask it. Are you aware of what you are doing all the time? Do you know the consequences of everything you do? Like all the builds, the risks, the consequences you are taking? My whatever level judgement tells me yes but sometimes I wonder when you suicide like 10 groups of 0-0 lings into 10 well microed 1-0 zealots. You're definitely one of the most creative players I've ob'ed/played/watched but sometimes I wonder if your style is intentional or well planned. Whatever it is I've definitely learned a lot from how you play and I do enjoy/admire your style.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-02 02:50:06
May 02 2009 02:38 GMT
#257
What's the most points you've ever gotten in a single turn in Scrabble?
Do you read the TL news posts? If so, who's your favorite writer?
Do you/have you read the TLFEs? If so, who's your favorite writer/what's your favorite FE?
Who does the best Power Ranks?
On a scale of 1-10, how awesome is HonestTea?
Favorite childhood cartoon?
Administrator
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 02 2009 02:45 GMT
#258
Why do people go AFK when they make games on iCCup? T.T
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
May 02 2009 02:49 GMT
#259
Do you like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups?
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2009 08:13 GMT
#260
On May 02 2009 10:04 zulu_nation8 wrote:
incontrol ive always had a question in the back of my mind about your game but never remembered to ask it. Are you aware of what you are doing all the time? Do you know the consequences of everything you do? Like all the builds, the risks, the consequences you are taking? My whatever level judgement tells me yes but sometimes I wonder when you suicide like 10 groups of 0-0 lings into 10 well microed 1-0 zealots. You're definitely one of the most creative players I've ob'ed/played/watched but sometimes I wonder if your style is intentional or well planned. Whatever it is I've definitely learned a lot from how you play and I do enjoy/admire your style.


I am definitely aware of what I am doing 100% of the time. Problem is, sometimes I am aware that I am being lazy. That sounds like an excuse, but it is true. Sometimes I somehow go into lazy mode and just literally don't make that 5-6 sunk wall at the expo KNOWING I need to. Sometimes I just group and "a" at the enemy KNOWING I could do more with some control.

I do it LESS in important games ie cw's, tourneys, money etc.. but this STILL forms bad habits which hurt me.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 60 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 362
UpATreeSC 147
BRAT_OK 73
ProTech59
MindelVK 16
ZombieGrub5
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21675
Shuttle 1030
Mini 624
Soulkey 365
actioN 167
Rush 148
Dewaltoss 134
Free 44
sSak 40
HiyA 36
[ Show more ]
Rock 16
Dota 2
qojqva4385
XBOCT1274
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m6046
Fnx 912
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0141
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu382
Other Games
gofns13192
Grubby1777
FrodaN1264
Beastyqt595
B2W.Neo342
uThermal167
Trikslyr42
CosmosSc2 11
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 30
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• imaqtpie1679
• TFBlade910
• Shiphtur685
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 54m
The PondCast
14h 54m
PiG Sty Festival
16h 54m
Serral vs Lambo
SHIN vs Rogue
OSC
17h 54m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Escore
1d 14h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 16h
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
OSC
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The Patches Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-11
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.