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I beat BW Deathless

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 08 2023 01:55 GMT
#1
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Zerg Mission 8 To Slay the Beast was the longest

Over the past couple of weeks, inspired by my love for PvE content and the challenge runs of GiantGrantGames and Stu I attempted to beat every level of all 3 Brood War campaigns deathless. It was a very fun very satisfying challenge and I wanted to share the details.

Rules were simple. If it counted on the units lost tab it counted as a death. Zerg buildings that are fully constructed don't count, but forward turrets are to be discouraged when possible. Carriers were banned but reavers were allowed.

It's fascinating just how small an army you can get away with in the Protoss and early Terran campaigns, despite Brood War's improved A.I, early tech tree availability and massive enemy fortifications from the word go.

Small is the name of the game however. With how BW handles, having more than 2 control groups of units gets iffy.

The Protoss campaign lets you get away with even less as 6 dragoons and 2 reavers proved enough to kill the Overmind. A really cool aspect of this challenge is the need for efficient Anti-Air solutions, and with Carriers out of the equation, Scouts are oft required. Relying on otherwise mediocre units and finding inventive solutions to problems was a really rewarding part of the run.

Terran wasn't too bad despite bio being a complete handicap. Nukes on level 4, and BC access on 5, 6 and 8 trivialize otherwise big macro maps.

Zerg however took more time than the other two combined, and then some. Missions 4, 5, 7, 8 and 10 all took at least an hour a piece to finish, with 5 and 8 essentialy requiring an attrition game so long, the ai mined out. The frail nature of zerg units coupled with the sheer insane numbers of tanks, battlecruisers, stimmed bio, zealots, dragoons, and archons mean few options are viable other than 12 guardians and 13 mutad/devs. Even on 7 where air is banned, the ramps you have to use to reach each objective coupled with the 6+ dark templar you find mean that even mass ultra can't survive. While air makes it possible, it still takes a long time to get the win. Still, I wish I had other solutions available.

A special shoutout to Science Vessels. Fuck. You. Irradiate on a deathless challenge is an immediate reset. Go fuck yourself. It often felt like the A.I's strategy wasn't to kill my army, it was to try their hardest to get a single kill off.

Still a 10/10 challenge. Just prepare lots of saves.

****
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28825 Posts
October 08 2023 05:54 GMT
#2
that honestly sounds insane. great job.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27040 Posts
October 08 2023 14:09 GMT
#3
Nice one, although it makes me wonder if you are some giant masochist!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 09 2023 00:48 GMT
#4
On October 08 2023 23:09 WombaT wrote:
Nice one, although it makes me wonder if you are some giant masochist!

If I can do it without too much trouble so can you!
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 09 2023 18:02 GMT
#5
Flash in 2024: "Winning the ASL without losing any units was really challenging, but ultimately rewarding. Shout-out to Cricketer12..."
May the BeSt man win.
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada514 Posts
October 09 2023 20:23 GMT
#6
Do you have any replays? Genuinely curious how you did some of these missions. It's been a while since I played but to not lose a single unit in some of the zerg missions... I can't comprehend it
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 09 2023 21:38 GMT
#7
On October 10 2023 05:23 cha0 wrote:
Do you have any replays? Genuinely curious how you did some of these missions. It's been a while since I played but to not lose a single unit in some of the zerg missions... I can't comprehend it

I never thought to, but I'm more than happy to go in depth where I can
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4423 Posts
October 10 2023 08:37 GMT
#8
did you play this on fastest? could be a bit easier on normal or slower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 10 2023 10:06 GMT
#9
On October 10 2023 17:37 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
did you play this on fastest? could be a bit easier on normal or slower.

I dropped speed on 1 level (Fury of the Swarm) to avoid deaths at the start. Otherwise fastest is fine.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
October 11 2023 12:31 GMT
#10
Wow, nicely done
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 12 2023 03:27 GMT
#11
That's really impressive, I wouldn't have thought it possible.

I went through a phase I downloaded a million custom campaigns and grinded through them. This challenge never crossed my mind though.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27040 Posts
October 14 2023 01:24 GMT
#12
On October 09 2023 09:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2023 23:09 WombaT wrote:
Nice one, although it makes me wonder if you are some giant masochist!

If I can do it without too much trouble so can you!

I’m just getting flashbacks from a Zerg mission featuring DTs which I decided to play basically ling only

Broke the bastards eventually but reavers and Templars made that a lot of fun!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
October 15 2023 23:02 GMT
#13
He went full ghandi. No one gets hurt run
Flash should fear Sacsri
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 15 2023 23:18 GMT
#14
On October 14 2023 10:24 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2023 09:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 08 2023 23:09 WombaT wrote:
Nice one, although it makes me wonder if you are some giant masochist!

If I can do it without too much trouble so can you!

I’m just getting flashbacks from a Zerg mission featuring DTs which I decided to play basically ling only

Broke the bastards eventually but reavers and Templars made that a lot of fun!

Dude that level was so damn obnoxious. Essentially had to run a Duran/Defiler infiltration squad with literally 40 sunks/spores at home for defense.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
dingdong77
Profile Blog Joined October 2023
Indonesia2 Posts
October 16 2023 07:02 GMT
#15
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dingdong77
Profile Blog Joined October 2023
Indonesia2 Posts
October 16 2023 07:02 GMT
#16
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 20 2023 14:59 GMT
#17
That's impressive lol
this is a quote
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-22 17:16:25
October 22 2023 17:16 GMT
#18
I remember doing this for just the first Terran mission, with an additional self-imposed challenge to go through the center. Small was indeed the name of the game. It required a lot of patience. This sounds completely insane for half of the other ones though (which is probably why GiantGrantGames hasn't pulled it off yet). Honestly would have given up as soon as I saw the first irradiate.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2414 Posts
October 30 2023 00:09 GMT
#19
I've seen some of those GiantGrant videos, nice work completing a challenge like this!

Flash in 2024: "Winning the ASL without losing any units was really challenging, but ultimately rewarding. Shout-out to Cricketer12..."

LMAO
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