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MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
July 14 2007 05:11 GMT
#1
That is how life feels for me, has felt for years. I am, for the most part, a very happy person. However I've been living that phrase as of late. Consistently trapped in between daily felicity and the personally weighty knowledge that nothing lasts, and thus has no meaning beyond the immediate. It is something I know millions before have contemplated, wept, and whimpered over to the degree where it is just another one of those dime a dozen point of views. At the same time, knowing that it is such a standard occurance for those lacking religion makes it no easier to deal with. I have been struggling with this since I was five years old, and I've yet to find a way to ameliorate the situation.

My fiancee doesn't understand it. She has a superb viewpoint on life and death overall, I feel. It's not greedy, it isn't complicated, and it isn't akin to the fairytales we tell children in your average Disneyland movie. It is just accepting and acknowledging the beauty of the fleeting existence. I'm too egotistical or rather, too selfish for that. I actively want to live forever, love existing to the point where I am already mourning something that I will never truly undergo.

I'll never experience it, that nullity. It's one of the things Jacqueline tried to keep telling me as a comforter when it originally came to her attention; I'll never know that I'm deceased, so nothing will be painful then. All of my dread is aimed at a void I will never feel. It never worked though, because it's pinpointing exactly what I fear the most. I long to possess that feeling, that awareness to the point where I sometimes despise sleep.

I am not a portentous person. I've not done anything astonishing as to etch myself a grade into mankinds passing history, and besides, I do not care to be commemorated. I don't want renown or a name in the back of the community mind, amongst which most wouldn't ever be able to tell you much about who I am or was. What I crave is to always feel, and I can't begin to relate what wonders it would take in a fantasy land to earn such immortality. Not even those remembered have the luxury of being knowledgeable of it, and all things remembered will eventually fade anyway. Absolutely nothing lasts forever, and such is my lust for living that I desperately crave for my own existence to, however undeserving I judge my own self to be of that.

The fear I get from death is distinctly unlike most other fears I've known. It doesn't cripple my ability to put myself in peril; I don't do so often, but when it is a choice between what I want to do and fear of harm, I will choose what I want to do simply because I do not like limiting my life. However, the fear does harm other aspects of my life. My sleeping, already chaotic and unhealthy because of my disdain for spending time doing so, suffers from my fear. When I lay down at night, knowing that I'm going to soon let myself drift out of concious existence, the subject of death is most piercing. I used to cry, roll around in bed in melancholy. That was pitiful enough, but something that actually brings about concern occurs now.

I get panic attacks. I don't feel sad anymore, but trapped, like I'm stuck in this little box that will never open. I can't sit still, often end up pacing and feeling the fight-or-flight bits of my body going full force. I feel nervous, afraid, and angry all at once. It happens virtually every single night to me now, and it's only when close to Jacqueline that I know true rest.

Y'know...In all honesty, I wish I did believe in a religion. That's a cowardly thing to say, as it's stating that I wish what I felt is reality was not true. Despite that admission, I've tried. I have read print, I have attended diverse gatherings, and none yet have felt the least bit real to me. I'm not cynical of them, don't hate or look down on those who do truly feel faith in whichever spiritual point of view they hold. But, it all seems fabricated to me, things created by people who knew the world needed a good story, needed something to believe in that would last eternity, else they would possibly lose the ambition and drive to continually push humanity forward. Else they live in a state of uncontrolled despair and indulgence.

Some say that fear is a choice, and so, too, are your reactions to those fears. To those people, I say you've never genuinely experienced fear, merely sensible caution. Fear is irrational by it's very nature, and while it can be regulated to a degree and even switched off sometimes through conditioning, I do not believe such dominating control is within the range of all fears or all people.

I know it's just repeating what many have said before me and that saying it changes nothing, helps nothing. But, we all like to be heard and feel common bond with another.

In closing, I'll go back to the beginning as I know it.

As I said, I've been dealing with this since I was five. I remember the night that I brought it to my parents attention. I don't recall what started the thoughts of death specifically, but I'd been laying in bed bawling, ended up falling onto the floor without meaning to. My parents heard it, and came to see what was wrong. I got led into their room, somewhere I'd rarely been. My father sat me down on their bed, and talked with me for a bit. Tried to explain to me why it was alright. He said that there was nothing truly there to fear, with the same reasoning that I hear from Jacqueline today, that you won't be there to experience it. He said that dying is like one of my Mario games. There is no pain, no worry, nothing. Just *walk walk, fall, game over."

I wonder to this day if he was high at the time. I also wonder if they realize that I'd pick an eternity of pain over non-existence.

*****
Think. :)
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
July 21 2007 09:37 GMT
#2
MTF, how i love to read your blog.

You\'ve given me kind words before regarding your admiration of me and who i am; but i don\'t think i\'ve ever taken the opportunity to share with you how much i appreciate your Experience, and the experience that it\'s been to you to Exist. I think it and you are beautiful.

I know with immensity the kind of fear (fear isn\'t even the right word. It\'s more like this oily mix of horror and disgust and despair) you can feel with your truth about the finality of death. I\'ve been victim of similar anxiety/panic attacks - where even you\'re skin feels claustrophobic because of the magnitudine and depth the truth that losing our Awareness is.

To lose all the beauty and awe that life is; to not Be... How can suffering an eternity of pain not be worth every moment that is granted in even being able to percieve such pain.

And that time before sleep is the worst; that imminent step before you plunge into the most death-like experience that a human can traverse; to lose our conciousness - and to then wake up with the knowledge of such a loss. \'so bittersweet that that lack of consciouness can make us weep at reclaiming it yet weep at the inevitably losing it in both our sleep and to death. So similarly have i hated to sleep for those same reasons. (however, i would like to note: i am prone to insanely intense dreams, some simply fantastical and others purely psychotic, and the occaisonal lucid dream thrown in the mix - these dreams are truly experiences unto themselves, and i wouldn\'t trade them for anything)

I do not know if you can pull some consolation from it, but i\'m in love your struggle with mortality. It\'s tragic, and encompassing, and inspiring and full of the type of awe that life is truly about. And how beautiful for it; for the immensity of it.

Thanks for Being.
Happiness only real when shared.
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
July 21 2007 17:03 GMT
#3
Bet you can guess why I'm not sleeping right now.

Your descriptions of the "fear" and other specific points match exactly to those that go through my own mind. Down to the minute detail, actually, scarily like reading something I wrote to myself in another voice. It helps to know that one is not alone, even if another has found resolve in an idea that doesn't stick to you, at least not yet. But, I'm thankful that there is understanding and I am happy that you found your peace.

As for being in love with my struggle...It doesn't alleviate the situation, but it is a vain appeal to know that my experiences, good or bad, might impassion another to that degree.

I don't see you post often, but when you do, you've the experiences and atmosphere to your words that seem naturally human, albeit a fair more self-explored (which I view as a very good thing) than your average person will allow themselves to be. Real, for lack of better wording, and not unattached to yourself or to your fellows. Thank you for your kind words, Mora. I truly hope your peace never leaves you; given what I know thus far of you, I don't think it likely that it will.
Think. :)
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5298 Posts
July 21 2007 20:21 GMT
#4
i know what i want to writte but i don't know how to make you understand me, my my point of view. i feel you but i can't reason with you; not because we don't have that capacity but because there is nothing to reason with. you care not about the knowledge that may find you but for the feeling is gives you. you extract it, you get high on it. there is nothing more powerful, more meaningful, more satisfying than to capture the essence of a moment: the feeling, the emotion. your life is one of those moments; once you understand it (and you did) nothing will satisy you. you'll cling to every feeling you can get trying to deny, to change it's meaning, it's purpose.

why do you deny it?, why do you fear it?,why do you percieve it as an end to all that you are?; and if death is the end, you love yourself that much that you can't let go?

(disclamer: if by any chance when you were 5 something traumatic has happened to you (death related) and you were left with psichic scars, disregard any of the above and seek counseling )

the purpose of life is death. the meaning of life is creation.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
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