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Art of Fighting - The Street Fight

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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-04 06:16:26
June 07 2007 08:40 GMT
#1
What I am about to show the community is the art of fighting. The following is an explanation of situations where you may find yourself in when in a street fight.

DISCLAIMER: THIS WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU A GOOD FIGHTER. THIS IS INSIGHT ON PAST EXPERIENCES.

What a lot of people don’t understand is that when you fight – hell I’m sure people understand what to do in a fight - Knock the other guy out. Doesn’t matter how you do it, you just HAVE to do it. In a street fight, you must understand, if you DON’T do it, then the other guy WILL. So take advantage of anything you can so you won’t find yourself on the losing end or in a hospital bed.

First I will introduce you to a common theory in a fight: The Jab. DON’T USE IT! Do you honestly believe you will have enough time to box? No. The jab will get you in trouble, as your first hit will be the biggest factor of the fight and landing a pussy weak punch will make you look inferior. If you come with a short punch, not only will you make yourself vulnerable to almost anything, but you will show your opponent that you aren’t ready to fight. The only time you should jab is when you are bringing a fury of combinations of punches immediately after. But mainly, the jab is for boxing; where you are scientifically learning your opponent – Learning his reach and style before fully engaging. This brings me to my second point: Knowing your opponent and assessing the situation.

Make sure you understand what your opponent is capable of. Whether it is weapons (a bat, a beer bottle, a knife, a gun, etc.), your surrounding environment, or his arm length/reach, you must know what you may be in store for. When assessing the environment, figure out how you can use it to control the fight or damage the person you are engaging; slamming his head onto a table, wall, or any object. Now understand, this isn’t WWE, and you aren’t Stone Cold Steve Austin, but if you can find a way to smash his face onto the wall, do it. Weapons are your biggest concern, if you have no way of getting your own to match him, then BACK OFF. You are not Jet Li – don’t be stupid and try fighting someone that will clearly beat your ass weapon wise. This brings me to my third idea: Stupidity, Rage, and Adrenaline. But before I leave the current subject, let me discuss a person’s reach. If you find yourself fighting someone that has a long arm length, you have to find a weapon to make him back off, or find it in you to tackle him or pin him against something. The fighter who has the most reach will have the most leverage, allowing him to bring a lot of punches without worrying about a counter punch. NOTE: The longer the reach, most likely, the harder the punch will be; more power will be put into it.

Too many people confuse the difference between Stupidity, Rage, and Adrenaline. If you remember one thing, then remember this: Stupidity and Rage is the same fucking thing. When you are enraged, you really become unaware of your surroundings. When rage takes over, you rely on nothing but intimidation, and although it may good in a one on one fight, the amount of luck involved of it won’t last forever. Not to mention, it will leave you absolutely exhausted. Stay composed, but keep the fire to keep yourself emotionally attached to engaging the person you are fighting. Adrenaline, will keep your muscles/body refreshed and ready for pain.

Next, I will discuss the first part of the fight: The first hit. This is the most crucial part of the fight as it will sway who will have the momentum through the rest of the fight. Running at your opponent leaves you very open but I would advice it to catch the person you are fighting off guard. It is common to try to take down your opponent down by spearing him. It’s a very good choice if you feel you can bring down some heat when on top of him. But at the same time, it’s not guaranteed that you will become successful in being on top once you tackle him. So once you deliver the hit, keep driving your feet and don’t allow him to move around or he may be able to roll over on top of you or even worse: put you in a headlock which could be GG there. If you find that the person you are fighting is running at you full force you have two options, and ONLY TWO. You back up and only engage him when he is off balance by either sidestepping or if and when he slows down; becoming tired or swaying when trying to grab you or laying a punch. The only other option is to directly engage him when he runs at you. BUT it’s not how you may picture it. You can’t run at him trying to spear him or punch him – you will break your hand, or you may seriously hurt yourself as by that time, he will have more momentum than you and he will be the one to walk away from it. The only true way you can approach him is by kicking his knee cap in. It may seem farfetched, but if you really want try to end the fight right then and there or at least hurt him (and possibly yourself in the process) to a point where he cannot fully use his strength in the fight, then do it. He won’t be walking away from it like nothing happen, and this gives you a serious advantage. The drawbacks to this other than you may hurt yourself, is that you may seriously injure him, and not many people are willing or ready to knock a knee cap out of place or seriously hurt someone to a point where they will be rushed to the hospital. But if you find that you entirely HATE this person, or you have no choice than to engage, then you got to do it. The only way to pull this off is if you take at least 2 steps to create some momentum to knock him down but not enough where you may hurt your own leg or go too fast where you will completely miss. Once you connect, you should also be on your way to the ground, or you will slam against his body and you will get hurt. So I don’t recommend doing this exactly, but it’s an option. NOTE: the only way to pull this off is if he is not running full force. If you attempt this when he is running fast at you be prepared to feel a lot of pain. Either way your elbows and ass will probably hurt as you hit the ground. Your back also if you land trying to be Jackie Chan. This brings me to my next point. You are not in an action movie!

If you go into a fight thinking you are going to jump off of walls and kick someone and knock ‘em out and take on the next guy, you are dead retarded. Also don’t think you are going to block punches or throw kicks – although throwing knees are viable. ALSO, do not fucking head butt someone unless you were trained to do so. If you haven’t been trained and use it then you’re a complete fucking idiot. You won’t ‘take it’ like it was nothing. You won’t be coherent after it and you probably will get rocked by the person you are fighting. The only time you should use a head butt or any ‘off the wall’ tactics, is if your completely desperate – And that is a headlock or in general, if you are trying to flee a fight for your own safely.

If you find yourself the victim of a headlock from behind, you have only three options – head butt, elbow, or kick to the balls/shin/foot/knee cap. If your thinking about using your elbow, then you not thinking straight so remove the thoughts of using your elbows to hurt him – it wont work. The only way to really get out of a headlock is hitting your opponent of a combination that will hurt him enough to loosen his grip, as anyone that puts you in a headlock probably knows how to properly execute it, so he probably will not let go easily if at all. What you need to do once you are in headlock, you must deliver a blow to his lower region. Hit him in the shins to make him move his entire leg out of the way, causing him to shift his weight and possibly off balance him. If you hit his knee cap with your heel, you will inflict major damage, delivering LOTS of pain. You could also try stomping on his toes to break his balance. But the most effective way to get him off his balance and possibly make him let go is a kick to the nuts. Yes, it could be cheap, but if you don’t want to lose consciousness (painfully mite I add), or lose the fight, this should be your NUMBER ONE thing to do. All of the things I have mentioned here will most likely leave your opponent open to a head butt. How? How else will you protect your lower region when you are performing a headlock? The only way is to lean forward, leaving your upper body open (mainly your face). Now I wouldn’t know exactly how to strike a person with a headlock from behind as I have been in this position in a real fight, but I’d assume with as much force as possible. If you are LUCKY he’ll release his grip a bit allowing you to escape or you’ll have more room to hit him or allow you to get your hand in between his arm so you can breathe. NOTE: If your opponent takes you down to the ground with a headlock, prepare to lose consciousness, as you will have no leverage to bring and strong blows, thus you won’t be able to strike with any momentum. At that point, you could plead for him to release – hoping he’ll be humble.

Fighting more than one person is very dangerous, so if you find yourself fighting two people, you have to either cover up and absorb punches, kicks, etc. OR attack one at a time. There isn’t a smarter choice here as either way you will be hurting. If you choose to cover up your body, always keep them in front of you. If you allow them to surround you, you already lost. Keep your distance as well. If you can, back up into a more confined area where you can always keep them in front of you and allow you to keep the fight controlled – but at some point you will need to run away or fight back. If you choose to aggressively engage the two guys, you only should engage one at a time and immediately look for a weapon to keep them at bay or to lay them out. The smartest way to fight them is by engaging one to either tackle or shove and move onto the next. You will get exhausted but suffice to say, they won’t be feeling like a million bucks either. If you are fighting three or more people, then either you better get the hell out of there or be ready to take a beating. And if you started the fight, then you’re a fucking moron – sorry. If you happen to fight more than two people, but you know you’ll be backed up by your friends, then go all out. Fucking throw punches and keep assaulting at least one of them even if you know you’ll take a punch in the face. In a gang fight, or rather, a fight that has two opposing sides, you need to play as dirty as you can and take one out so your friends will have the advantage. But the same rules will apply to you as if you were fighting just by yourself against one or more people. And if the group you are fighting happens to have more than you, you better be fighting for something worth it. The general idea though, when assessing the situation where a group is fighting another is: How many more do them or do we have? If you have five friends total, including you against at the most six guys, then you still have a chance in sealing a victory, but playing dirty WILL come into a factor. Now let’s say, instead of six, they have seven guys, then you better go right for the beer bottles. You’re pushing the limit here and you might just be falling into a loss already so do what you can do be safe or to fucking win. Now if you find them with a 1/4th more than you (in this case, their eight against your five) then you better have a back up plan. Good luck to you sir there. All of your friends better know how to fight and fight dirty I mite add.

Courage and Underestimating - Intimidation. You better do/have both. If you go into a fight with only courage, then you only won about 1/10th of the battle. To truly motivate yourself, you need to UNDERESTIMATE your opponent. Show him that you don’t give a shit what he can do and show him that you will do what you can to show him what you can do. If you try to assess the situation too much then you will easily OVERESTIMATE him and become too conscious about what he can do, leaving you helplessly open. If you hesitate one bit during a fight, you will get knocked out – simple as that. So don’t think once you start fighting, just DO. Again, this isn’t boxing. You are not fighting a person scientifically and in a guided atmosphere – you got to make the first move and expect it to succeed and keep coming. Getting exhausted is part of it and leaving your opponent to make the first move is the wrong thing to do. And this all ties into Intimidation which is the last thing I will cover.

Regardless of why you start the fight, you better not look like an asshole – especially if you trash talk to someone. Be humble and show respect regardless. Showing respect will show him, yourself, and anyone watching that you aren’t someone to be fucked with and should be looked upon as the protagonist – not the antagonist whom people never feel sorry for and side with. If you do trash talk then you better fucking back it up pussy because you and many others get knocked out and stomped out. Being composed is what makes you look dangerous. If you walk into a fight ready and throwing swift punches then the guy is not going to be ready for it which gives you a psychological edge. These tie into the first hit – as an intimidation factor, and the jab – as a bad way to intimidate your opponent. If you fall into a situation where you tell the person you are inevitably going to fight, that you’re not interested in fighting, then you better not verbally back down if he approaches you more than twice. If you do you will be shown no respect by jerk offs and psychologically, it could haunt you. Also it will emotionally destroy you if he rushes and attacks you from behind. So if you know there is no way out of it then you take the commanding lead and show him that he shouldn’t have fucked with you in the first place. All of this leads to my final part of the discussion: Don’t fight.

Be more humble than what you put on and don’t fight. Don’t get into a verbal confrontation and most of all, don’t attack someone from behind. “Be a man” and solve problems in an adult way. You will be more respected that way and you may make a friend out of it – seriously. But if you find yourself being disrespected or just do not like someone then walk away or let them be them and you be you. I know people that have walked away with stitches, broken bones, and large fines and possible assault charges. So be careful and stay honorable.

I hope this was insightful.

***
Treatin' fools since '87
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-07 10:13:11
June 07 2007 10:12 GMT
#2
haha nick that was an awesome post, i can speak from experience and tell you that if you hit FIRST your chances of winning are increased. Now talking from experience might as well provide some examples. For my first highschool fight i did what nick advised nto doing, i pussy shoved him. He responde with punching me in the face then throwing me head first itno a wall. There's more too it but idc to repeat it. Stupid high school fights.

With nicks advice you will go from that to walking up to that asshole who threw snapple on you, kikcing him in the nuts throwing him onto the ground and pounding his face in.

Fight over 25 seconds. The kid knew what was coming, he called me out.

from what yuo have taught the best one is clearly don't fight, my fights have ended with some scars i would rather not have and many other things whihc don't need to happen, might as well be pretty and not in jail then fucked up with a fine.

Edit: First~~
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ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
June 07 2007 16:21 GMT
#3
nice and informative. sankyu-
PS:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0496853/ - a good movie on this topic
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 07 2007 21:28 GMT
#4
nice post! very interesting read... =D
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 08 2007 09:22 GMT
#5
You do bring insight into the rare (actually, this depends, but I believe for the most part) situations when you get into a fight. The last part of your guide was the best part, of course. Fights don't work as well these days as they would have in the earlier days.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-08 12:23:03
June 08 2007 09:33 GMT
#6




great post but don't take away headbutting from us, specially anyone that played rugby or soccer, it is our number one tool!!

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32082 Posts
June 11 2007 20:26 GMT
#7
hahah nice post. just dont agree with three things: if some dumbass tries to spear you, fuck going for the knee caps, thats hard. just stick a knee up in his face when he comes in. head butts are awesome. and finally, not shots are only reserved for when you get jumped or someones beating you head in with a weapon
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
June 16 2007 17:15 GMT
#8
I pretty much agree with everything you said, except of you have long reach, jabs with some force behind them to the nose can be fucking brutal.
Broken noses fucking hurt like shit, and it becomes hard to see aswell.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-03 12:57:11
November 03 2007 12:53 GMT
#9
Yea, I've been in dozens of fights (not counting boxing matches) and jabs are still viable even if the other guy is the tackle/rush at you type. Side stepping and jabbing is perfect for setting up another move/hit. Its important to stand with your jab fist forward though so you can put all your weight in with your next move on your right side(if your a righty like me).

I've been tackled and had my shirt pulled over my head. So another good piece of advice would be just before the fight (if possible) to take off your shirt and anything else that can be used against you (necklace or whatever). But anyways, when I got tackled with my shirt over my head the guy was trying to punch me obviously while sitting on my chest. Blind/frantic headbutts and elbows saved me from a knockout and eventually got me out of it (it was funny I actually connected more than he did).

Also, I've had the misfortune of 'seeing red' as they call it (Uncontrollable Rage). One time drunk at a party my friend and I were calling each other names. Then he decided to be a real dick and punch me hard in the chest but missed/I moved and uppercutted me in the chin. I literally zoned out (not knocked out, just so angry I lost control of myself) and then 'woke up' in a armlock/headlock from 3 of my other friends on the couch. I was like a wild animal grunting and drooling and trying to do anything I could to attack my friend. They eventually calmed me down and I realized what had happened. Very surreal experience.

Generally your advice is very good though, Nice post. "All is fair in love and war."

PS- You didn't cover much on defenses or dodging.


..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
JesusCruxRH
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
New Zealand159 Posts
November 04 2007 04:36 GMT
#10
Damn, I was hoping for a post on the SNK computer game with Ryo and Robert
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-22 18:47:23
February 21 2008 19:30 GMT
#11
I know it's bumping an old topic, but holy crap this is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

I stopped reading after "Weapons are your biggest concern, if you have no way of getting your own to match him, then BACK OFF. You are not Jet Li – don’t be stupid and try fighting someone that will clearly beat your ass weapon wise."

If you at all have the option to back off, you should do so in the first place. It's fucking stupid to get into a fight you don't have to be in. If it's really a 'street fight,' then the person you're fighting isn't just gonna rough you up a bit, they're gonna break your face so that you never breathe right again. If it's a street fight, then the dude isn't your buddy who you know you can take, it's someone who you know nothing about, who could be more than capable of ending your life. Street fighting is the equivalent of playing for rolls in poker: FUCKING STUPID. Unless the pay off is something like saving someone's life, there's no reward great enough to justify willfully getting into it, much less some pathetic perceived sense of pride.

Yeah, I just wanted to rant, cause I can't believe no one said anything before. Holy shit. It's at least as bad as listening to 15 year old wiggers on the bus talk about fighting.

EDIT: /me is a dumb ass You have to admit you're contradicting yourself though ;P You're saying only fight if you have to at the end, but at the beginning you're saying 'back off if he's got a weapon' like you actually have any option. Your last statement presumes you don't. Still, my bad
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NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
February 21 2008 21:21 GMT
#12
If you read it fully then you'd like the actual blog. Just read the conclusion please.
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