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Random Rant About Blizzard (& Capcom etc)

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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-10 11:07:30
November 10 2018 11:02 GMT
#1
Context: friend on FB was telling people to sell their stock in Blizz/Activision

It's crashing. They failed to meet quarterly goals by 10%, blatantly lied to their investors on a recorded conference call this week, the entire diablo fanbase has turned against the company and fans are doing everything within their power to make it fail. Blizzard/acti lost well over 5 billion dollars in less than a week. Blizzard(a company that specializes and sells PC games) also removed all their top software developers from PC titles to mobile titles. This means all of their future PC games are going to be of lower standard and lower quality resulting in weaker sales overall. Get out now.


Blizzard has been a company that started on a few guys who really loved their craft and made some games when they were in their early 20s (i literally live like 6 miles from MacArthur/Harbor) . Then they expanded and those guys were spent.

They cashed in on MMORPGs 15 years ago and have been trying to milk their dwindling fanbase since. The game is outdated as fuck now and they keep making expansions for it because of some hardcore sunk cost fallacy shit.

Starcraft pretty much died slowly since 2010 because of poor handling of all aspects of the game and esports. Not to mention other esports took over. RTS has never really been a popular genre but because of KESPA and WCG (and all the korean gaming channels and shit) it stuck around. We got remastered but it should have come out before sc2 because now its too little and too late, not to mention the playerbase is nonexistent and there are still issues over a year later.


HOTS is too complicated and not the same enough as other MOBAs. The game makes you relearn everything and changes everything and adds new characters and new maps all the time. Its like its been constantly in alpha or beta forever. I don't know about everyone else, but one of the main things that sold me on HOTS over DOTA/clones was not having to memorize all the items and shit all the time, this is even worse.

WC3 RTS has been gone since like 05 or whenever DOTA took over the game (not to mention the game was never really balanced well since it had 4 races). I heard rumor about a WC4 in dev, good luck. They should just remaster wc2 and add some stuff and fix the UI and some hybrid of MBS and IUS. EG; not sc2 and not bw.

Diablo 3 was a shitshow since day one, never even got the battle arenas which is what sold most of the people who bought the game. And then other Action Online RPGs were way better , eg; Path of Exile, Dark Souls, Skyrim etc.

Their retro games are meh. R&R racing was maybe the only good one, they should actually do a twisted metal type game based on it. And have other racing modes or story modes as well.

Overwatch is arguably their only popular decent game anymore, and as far as shooters go, there are many other popular ones (Fortnite is free for example).

The warcraft movie was shit.

Also, ever since they merged with Activision, they went corporate sellout as fuck and cater to casuals and money, over quality and balancing and fixing issues with their rushed out games.

Honestly, they probably will make some great shitty phone games. However, as far as PC or console, nope.

Sidenote- Blizzcon was actually legit the first couple of years. Then it became complete bullshit. Anyone still wanna buy a murloc suit from 07?


I forgot about Hearthstone, the game is just a shitty copy of MTG only you cant buy or trade cards. The sets they pump out are filled with filler bullshit and the game is constantly imbalanced and buggy. Every season you have to grind everything and then it all becomes completely worthless in 3 months to a year. There are many better card games out there, they just aren't as popular because they don't have all the fanbase and money behind them. And that kinda sucks because a lot of these games these days rely on lots of players for matchmaking etc.



PS- Everything I said can also be applied to Capcom games these days. These once great companies who made good games for like 10-15 years just banked off that for the last 10-15 years and pumped out mediocre games that fanboys back because esports scene backed them and/or massive playerbases keeping them on the top.


Also. One thing that I do not like about online card games though, is that MTG for example is a game of rules at its core; changing rules, adding rules, removing rules, every turn. You have to keep track of what steps do what and when does what, and you are penalized if you miss something. All these games online are automated and the less vigilant/conscientious player is rewarded. This is like how in SC2 people were hyper skeptical about MBS and IUS. It took skill and practice to work the engine and multitask. It completely removed that aspect of a player. And then we got unit balls and injected macro in other stupid ways. There was a similar article about this on David Sirlin's site years ago about how execution and precision/timing with doing specials and combos in fighting games could easily be removed and the game could be reduced down to strategy and decision making (which he argued could improve games/create more depth with pros and cons), but then you end up exiling players who literally were good because they had consistent execution and timing.

Sirlin actually made a game on steam that literally does this, it actually looks kinda neat but I haven't played it so I can't speak on it. Fantasy Strike . There were a couple of other games of a similar vein that removed the difficulty of doing 360 motions and shit. There was also Rising Thunder, and a few other noteables. None of these games really picked up because they don't have as much depth and of course no player base.


TL;DR Great gaming companies that paved the way and created entire genres are dying and out of ideas. They are attempting to follow suit in the industry rather than lead it. Used to love Capcom and Blizzard, now they are shit. Rest In Peace.

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RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 10 2018 19:43 GMT
#2
I would just like to point out that while game quality is generally not as high as before for both those company, Blizzard is not dying, not at all, in fact they are doing very very well, maybe not as well as when WOW was at the top of the world, but they are still one of the most profitable gaming company in the world. They are way more profitable then when they used to do their classic RTS games.
These company are not there to make the best games they can, they are there to make the most profitable games they can, in fact they have to it's not greed it's stock market pressure.
EA and Activision are frequently criticized as doing only the same few games over and over every year and yet they are the two biggest games publisher in the world, Activision doesn't make pretty much the same COD game every year because the ran out of idea, they do it because no one has found a better business model.

Capcom did have a bit of a more rocky last couple of year but that doesn't mean they would ever go back to those RE1 sales numbers.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17267 Posts
November 10 2018 22:25 GMT
#3
On November 10 2018 20:02 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Blizzard has been a company that started on a few guys who really loved their craft and made some games when they were in their early 20s (i literally live like 6 miles from MacArthur/Harbor) . Then they expanded and those guys were spent.

they were all over 30 when Brood War was released.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 11 2018 01:32 GMT
#4
i think your mistake is letting your sentimental attachment to StarCraft confuse you into thinking any growing corporation would behave any differently as long as capitalism is the dominant system. small corporations becoming large, popular and successful is a linear event. there's no such thing as a corporation that "doesn't sell out;" under capitalism you either grow or you're abandoned
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4384 Posts
November 11 2018 07:14 GMT
#5
I'd be selling it if i did own it.
It's clear the company is going downhill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
November 12 2018 09:00 GMT
#6
Your criticism of HotS makes little sense, because other MOBA games are also constantly releasing new heros/champions and changing up their items. I don't think the rate of change is so drastically different between HotS and DotA/LoL. Other than that, I think you're dead right. Maybe as some commenters pointed out the company Blizzard is currently doing well financially, but the god-tier company that is the reason all of us is even on teamliquid.net in the first place is well and truly dead.
The original Bogus fan.
ScottFiore
Profile Joined December 2018
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-04 13:02:26
December 03 2018 13:22 GMT
#7
Blizzard has been a company that started on a few guys who really loved their craft and made some games when they were in their early 20s (i literally live like 6 miles from MacArthur/Harbor) . Then they expanded and those guys were spent.

They cashed in on MMORPGs 15 years ago and have been trying to milk their dwindling fanbase since. The game is outdated as fuck now and they keep making expansions for it because of some hardcore sunk cost fallacy shit.




These company are not there to make the best games they can, they are there to make the most profitable games they can, in fact they have to it's not greed it's stock market pressure.
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