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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16707 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 17:26:19
May 05 2016 17:25 GMT
#21
On May 05 2016 22:38 opisska wrote:
If you are not a complete idiot, any job in a developed western country will provide you with more then enough money to have a pleasant life.


the most indebted sub-soveriegn jurisdiction in North America has a town under a "boil water advisory" for 19+ years... and electricity? HA! who needs that shit! to go with that they have left wing do-gooders like Dalton Mcguinty and Kathleen Wynne pointing fingers in every direction.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32054 Posts
May 05 2016 17:47 GMT
#22
On May 05 2016 22:38 opisska wrote:
If you are not a complete idiot, any job in a developed western country will provide you with more then enough money to have a pleasant life. The not being idiot part comes in twice, firstly in not being completely useless so that your job isn't something really bottom feeding and secondly in not wasting money on every nonsense around just because that's what other people do. I have a below-average wage in a rather poor central-european country and I am essentially swimming in money just by not spending them uselessly.

So if you don't live in the "third world" (whatever that means today) you do not really need to care about having enough money, despite everything you may hear daily in the media. Then the only question left is what you enjoy doing. I don't know much about you, but I remember your username and have a vague idea that you are a rather smart person, so I feel like you really can do anything you want at this point. I would personally go for the spaceship way then, but that's really a matter of personal prefference.

this is def not true at all

in the us, for example. $50k/yr in bumfuck alabama makes you solidly middle class. In the NYC area, you're going to need a roommate and tight budget to have any kind of ability to live comfortably and save.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 05 2016 18:22 GMT
#23
On May 06 2016 02:47 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 22:38 opisska wrote:
If you are not a complete idiot, any job in a developed western country will provide you with more then enough money to have a pleasant life. The not being idiot part comes in twice, firstly in not being completely useless so that your job isn't something really bottom feeding and secondly in not wasting money on every nonsense around just because that's what other people do. I have a below-average wage in a rather poor central-european country and I am essentially swimming in money just by not spending them uselessly.

So if you don't live in the "third world" (whatever that means today) you do not really need to care about having enough money, despite everything you may hear daily in the media. Then the only question left is what you enjoy doing. I don't know much about you, but I remember your username and have a vague idea that you are a rather smart person, so I feel like you really can do anything you want at this point. I would personally go for the spaceship way then, but that's really a matter of personal prefference.

this is def not true at all

in the us, for example. $50k/yr in bumfuck alabama makes you solidly middle class. In the NYC area, you're going to need a roommate and tight budget to have any kind of ability to live comfortably and save.


Luckily, as far as I know, even in the US, people are not born chained to the ground, right? Living in an expensive area makes sense economically only if the additional expense it outweighted by higher income - which it also very frequently is.
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 07:35:07
May 05 2016 18:36 GMT
#24
First of all, I really don't think that wealth generally qualifies for good career advice. I remember 13 years ago, I found myself in a similar position and I kept asking myself:
"Life is filled with opportunities, but I never take a chance, I have ideas, big plans, yet I never realize them! Why is that?!
I'm not lazy, I got no debt, I'm not stupid, I got a diploma....." But I was scared....so I'm ..a...math guy, definitions relations/functions make it easier for me to approach a problem; so I got started:
definition(simplified example*):
<=>idea = success if I overcome my fear---> so best case scenario: fear = 0 <=>success = effort + passion;
<=>success = effort + passion - fear //true if effort + passion > fear//
That helped me moving forward(but I had a clear vision of what I wanted to do).

So how does this apply to your question?
1. Ask yourself, what do YOU want! Meaning: What's more important to YOU? "doing what you love"/"money"/"fame"/....
----> Get your priorities sortet out!
2. Find your algorithm and apply it to your "real life scenarios".

*I left out project details and parameters like costs/time...didn't wanna clutter the page and overcomplicate things
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
TheKwas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Iceland372 Posts
May 05 2016 23:01 GMT
#25
I don't have any advice. I just want to say that I think you have incredible potential as a writer.

imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 05 2016 23:13 GMT
#26
This thread is funny.
Second advice looks like it is the most exciting, but that's just my own feeling.
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
May 06 2016 07:19 GMT
#27
On May 05 2016 03:28 Glider wrote:
Just some random thoughts, a lot of it is mentioned by others. I think genomics and nanotechnology is definitely the "rocket ship", and it all probably would come much faster than we expect, even tho they seems science fictionish. People constantly miss the law of exponential change. (there is a documentary on it, our brains is just not evolved or trained to consider exponential change nearly as well as linear) and we are now near the cusp of some super rapid changes. (I was at the Albany nano tech center recently, you won't believe the progress and how much main stream media doesn't really cover, cuz lets face it. They prioritize whatever brings in the most eye balls and $ in the short run always)

But importantly you should also do w/e it is that you are passionate about and brings people value. The money part should always be considered as result, not the goal. Not many people makes a lot of money when it is the main goal, and even when they do, they are not happy. ( I know some wall street friends).

Do what you passionate about that brings value. Not only will you be happier doing it, have more energy doing it, it is much more probable that money will come as a result as well. And don't let stuff like but "but I have no talent" or this and that stop you. Almost everyone can be passionate and excel and learn well in something. I have a friend who can't draw for shit, but because of me he started an Instagram account sharing other people's artwork just a year ago. He now has near 2 million followers and makes $$$ like nothing, people pay him big bucks just to post their art work, when at the start all he wanted was for more people to see interesting art, he was passionate about that, not to make money off Instagram or w/e.

If you're thinking "but I don't know what I'm really passionate about", then that should be the 1st question answered, not ... which path would get me rich. Just my opinion.


excellently put!
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 08:19:52
May 06 2016 08:18 GMT
#28
Why do you want to be rich in the first place? Shouldn't you strive to do something that you're passionate about, and then potentially seek wealth in that domain?
(also yeah, genomics is heavily favored to be the next big thing)
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 09:09:57
May 06 2016 09:09 GMT
#29

We are on the verge of being able to control our evolution as a species. Think about what this statement means. Why do you want to spend your time chasing after the next social media network that will be marginally better than the last one? If you're smart, you should hitch yourself to a rocket ship that changes the world.


I don't know about being able to control our evolution as a species (this sounds a bit too enthusiastic/spectacular a statement, but I'm not an expert at all), but the underlying thought in that quote is way way underrated today IMO. I really HATE the fact that a lot of companies that make the tech headlines and are the targets of immense investment are companies developing "a new way to share photos", or "a new way to keep in touch with your friends". People chasing the next social medias look like complete idiots to me...

I'd really like it more if this money was directed towards companies developing an actual useful product (lol @ Internet Of Things, nice try but no).

The way I see it, I'd go for a job at a company doing something cool AND useful. Like a rocket ship. :>
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 10:42:32
May 06 2016 10:42 GMT
#30
How much do you like swinging your dick at people?

(Good writing, by the way. I've only caught a couple of your things before but am always impressed.)
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Therapist.
Profile Joined January 2009
United States207 Posts
May 06 2016 13:24 GMT
#31
On May 06 2016 03:22 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 02:47 QuanticHawk wrote:
On May 05 2016 22:38 opisska wrote:
If you are not a complete idiot, any job in a developed western country will provide you with more then enough money to have a pleasant life. The not being idiot part comes in twice, firstly in not being completely useless so that your job isn't something really bottom feeding and secondly in not wasting money on every nonsense around just because that's what other people do. I have a below-average wage in a rather poor central-european country and I am essentially swimming in money just by not spending them uselessly.

So if you don't live in the "third world" (whatever that means today) you do not really need to care about having enough money, despite everything you may hear daily in the media. Then the only question left is what you enjoy doing. I don't know much about you, but I remember your username and have a vague idea that you are a rather smart person, so I feel like you really can do anything you want at this point. I would personally go for the spaceship way then, but that's really a matter of personal prefference.

this is def not true at all

in the us, for example. $50k/yr in bumfuck alabama makes you solidly middle class. In the NYC area, you're going to need a roommate and tight budget to have any kind of ability to live comfortably and save.


Luckily, as far as I know, even in the US, people are not born chained to the ground, right? Living in an expensive area makes sense economically only if the additional expense it outweighted by higher income - which it also very frequently is.


So are you saying that if you're born in an expensive area and all your family lives there... you should leave all your family just because it's too expensive to live comfortably there?

As someone who lives in NY area and deals with the extremely expensive costs of living, I can tell you that you'd have to move quite far away to escape the high prices. Should I abandon all ties with my aging family and friends just to live a "more comfortable" life on a lower income 100 miles away? Or should I continue to scrape by with 2 roommates in an expensive town to continue to support my family?

I hate posts like these because they only apply to someone with literally no meaningful ties whatsoever who is happy to just up and leave his HOME to go somewhere more suited to his economic class.

I don't know how life is in Europe, but cost of living and economic class is very pronounced in the US.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 06 2016 13:37 GMT
#32
On May 06 2016 22:24 Therapist. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 03:22 opisska wrote:
On May 06 2016 02:47 QuanticHawk wrote:
On May 05 2016 22:38 opisska wrote:
If you are not a complete idiot, any job in a developed western country will provide you with more then enough money to have a pleasant life. The not being idiot part comes in twice, firstly in not being completely useless so that your job isn't something really bottom feeding and secondly in not wasting money on every nonsense around just because that's what other people do. I have a below-average wage in a rather poor central-european country and I am essentially swimming in money just by not spending them uselessly.

So if you don't live in the "third world" (whatever that means today) you do not really need to care about having enough money, despite everything you may hear daily in the media. Then the only question left is what you enjoy doing. I don't know much about you, but I remember your username and have a vague idea that you are a rather smart person, so I feel like you really can do anything you want at this point. I would personally go for the spaceship way then, but that's really a matter of personal prefference.

this is def not true at all

in the us, for example. $50k/yr in bumfuck alabama makes you solidly middle class. In the NYC area, you're going to need a roommate and tight budget to have any kind of ability to live comfortably and save.


Luckily, as far as I know, even in the US, people are not born chained to the ground, right? Living in an expensive area makes sense economically only if the additional expense it outweighted by higher income - which it also very frequently is.


So are you saying that if you're born in an expensive area and all your family lives there... you should leave all your family just because it's too expensive to live comfortably there?

As someone who lives in NY area and deals with the extremely expensive costs of living, I can tell you that you'd have to move quite far away to escape the high prices. Should I abandon all ties with my aging family and friends just to live a "more comfortable" life on a lower income 100 miles away? Or should I continue to scrape by with 2 roommates in an expensive town to continue to support my family?

I hate posts like these because they only apply to someone with literally no meaningful ties whatsoever who is happy to just up and leave his HOME to go somewhere more suited to his economic class.

I don't know how life is in Europe, but cost of living and economic class is very pronounced in the US.


Why does your family live there? Either they have a high enough benefit from staying in an expensive area and then they don't need your support, or they don't and should move somewhere else. People are getting really irrational when it comes to where they live, but it's really an economic decision. It's the same as when we have retired people complaining that they can't afford rent in the capital city with their pensions, even though the rent is still regulated by the state (in privately-owned houses, to a large loss at the side of the owners, even though it is supposed to be "free market" now) and there are lines of people waiting for the same apartment, who actually do need it because they want to work in the city. Large concentrations of people tend to create high costs of living but high benefits to those, who can but those to work. The others are better off moving somewhere else - or at least they shouldn't complain how "poor" they are.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Therapist.
Profile Joined January 2009
United States207 Posts
May 06 2016 15:17 GMT
#33
I believe that is a very heartless and cold way of looking at things and it is a shame.

I will say no more.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 06 2016 15:44 GMT
#34
On May 07 2016 00:17 Therapist. wrote:
I believe that is a very heartless and cold way of looking at things and it is a shame.

I will say no more.


Don't get me wrong - I am not a worshiper of capitalism and would prefer that our society moved towards a structure where most people lived nice lives without having to work their asses off and I believe that it is quite possible, because we have large overproduction of things, only we aren't distributing them right. That having said, one has to be realistic when operating within the existing system. However I also believe that people who support the idea that most people somehow are destined to be poor within our system contribute to its perpetuation - because it helps creating the impression that we collectively have a lack of resources, while in fact we do have a large surplus. The emotions of those poor people are thus being manipulated into keeping them poor.

Speaking more generally, I believe that rationality is better in achieving well-being than emotions. What you have said is in my opinion a good example of a greater issue - people have the tendency to act irrationally because of their emotional ties to other people, ignoring the fact that the purported benefactors of their behavior could have benefited more had they been treated more rationally. You always need to ask, if you are really helping someone or just making yourself happy by giving you a feeling of helping.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:17 GMT
#35
Pretend money wasn't a factor at all. What would you do?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 19:21:30
May 06 2016 19:21 GMT
#36
basically...
Work with/for someone that can help you develop.
Try to actually be original/innovative.

On May 06 2016 18:09 Ragnarork wrote:


I'd really like it more if this money was directed towards companies developing an actual useful product (lol @ Internet Of Things, nice try but no).

But I really want my coffee pot to tweet out that I'm on my third cup
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
May 06 2016 21:20 GMT
#37
My only life advice was found on a meme or some shit: it's never your successful friends posting the inspirational quotes.

A while ago an acquaintance of mine said "I had a discussion with a rich entrepreneur, we think so much alike". Now he does steroids and has trouble keeping a job.

Good day.
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alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 21:27:56
May 06 2016 21:26 GMT
#38
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

a) Goal: Be able to make positive changes to my society, country, & world. At the same time, I want to have enough to please myself and surrounding people, such as neighbors, friends, family. Making them comfortable and smile will make me comfortable and smile.

b) So there are lots of things I need to get there, I'm not sure in what proportions or order of importance: money, power, relationships, experiences, knowledge, wisdom, followers, passion, vision.

c) So what do I do right now? I don't think there is a straight forward answer or way to get there, actually there are infinite possibilities to get there. So basically I'm trying everything I can, experience new things, try new things, fail and success on different things, and by things I mean business, projects, ideas, etc. And basically I'm hoping one day I'll reach there, and if I don't, well, I'm pretty sure I'll get somewhere neat. And from there, keep on trying, reaching higher than before.

Die trying.
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
May 06 2016 22:30 GMT
#39
None of the above seems like it would suit you well; try option number 4
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 07 2016 19:39 GMT
#40
You can just ask advice from lottery winners and answer would make just as much sense
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