• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:42
CET 01:42
KST 09:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 970 users

TLS Update

Blogs > Ty2
Post a Reply
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 03:31:08
March 22 2016 05:38 GMT
#1
--- Nuked ---

***
Writer
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 22 2016 06:21 GMT
#2
They have Nation Wars coming up. I think the time to play BW ended some time ago. Currently, you don't have the resources to advance enough unless you really study replays diligently and put 8hrs a day into practice. (sometimes more) Playing BW these days is a bit meaningless though as even the 'best' players have lost their competitive nature and don't take it as seriously anymore.

About school. School is a competition. You are competing against all your class mates for top mark. Sometimes, you will teach a class mate or work with them to improve your understanding but the whole focus is just to become smarter so you can perform better and as a result get a better mark.

The point is, even if you beat Koget, the chances of winning the whole tournament was low so somewhere along the line you would have felt inadequate and there aren't enough future chances for your redemption so don't take it so hard. I decided that I wasn't even going to compete because I knew that I wouldn't have enough time to prepare to win the tournament and in my opinion the only reason to play these is to win. During the TLS mini tours last year I was performing decently but there were a few players that I had difficulty in ladder games against. I knew my limits and restrictions at the time and that set my choice. No regrets even though I never won a major tournament, BW is just a stepping stone to the completion of your life.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#3
I felt like I was giving up in a way by leaving StarCraft, like I had something to prove. Then again, I realized I would always feel like I didn't do enough while playing StarCraft because my original motivation was conducive to an unstable mindset. I was too focused on winning.

I wanted to win but at the same time that's all the motivation was, to win. The pursuit felt empty, like there wasn't any substance that held any true meaning behind the endeavor. Even when I'm playing I never felt like I was putting in all of my energies because I didn't have a cause worthy enough. When I was met by defeat, I would always extend the time I played StarCraft in a futile effort to achieve greatness that never existed. There was a point that was created that I would never reach, I would never get that "good" to where my mind wanted.


for anyone whose ever wanted to seriously compete this is the heartbreaker that you eventually realize and learn to accept

in the end, unless you're able to compete with the very best (not just high level foreigners, but the korean players with famous names) there's no greatness. whatever pride you find is vanishing and it never lasts long enough. trying to pretend it's meaningful just makes it feel even more hollow.

there's nothing to really gain but money. and even then you'd probably make more money and padding a resume working a real job for the amount of hours spent.

it's a funny and cruel lesson that you learn too late. rekrul put it very eloquently when he basically concluded that it's all a waste of time even at the level he was at.

but there are lessons somewhere in all of it, some you learn from insight and from yourself when you see the game and what you've done as a metaphor and use your judgement to interpret what it means.

there's no shame in giving it up, it means you're a little wiser and older now.
just don't give up or run away from life.
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
March 22 2016 07:48 GMT
#4
lol

so what do you want, some fancy title that appears in your profile that shows that you reached the ro32/whatever of a tournament like steam achievements?

if you regard playing BW as any more than that of a simple hobby, i feel sorry for you.
worst is that you do not really have fun and yet you feel some sort of entitlement...
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:02 GMT
#5
On March 22 2016 16:48 Probemicro wrote:
lol

so what do you want, some fancy title that appears in your profile that shows that you reached the ro32/whatever of a tournament like steam achievements?

if you regard playing BW as any more than that of a simple hobby, i feel sorry for you.
worst is that you do not really have fun and yet you feel some sort of entitlement...


en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt
permission, dispensation, privilege
the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.


i think you're misinterpreting what he's sharing if that's the conclusion you've reached after reading.


chi·me·ra
kīˈmirə,kəˈmirə
illusion, fantasy, dream,
a thing that is hoped or wished for but in fact is illusory or impossible to achieve.


re·al·i·za·tion
ˌrē(ə)ləˈzāSH(ə)n
awareness, understanding, comprehension,
an act of becoming fully aware of something as a fact.


re·flec·tion
rəˈflekSH(ə)n
thinking, consideration, contemplation
serious thought or consideration.

❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 08:37:41
March 22 2016 08:35 GMT
#6
what are you, a walking dictionary? (copy paster rather)

don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the amount of "I WANNA WIN" in the OP. what makes him think hes ENTITLED to winning, just because he practiced hard? does he not realise that others have worked just as hard or even harder than him? (like koget who i heard practiced a lot with TT). everyone likes to think of themselves as special snowflakes, when in reality only a few are ever born as one.

its pointless to have this kind of competitive mentality in a old tough game like BW with no more functional pro scene.
as the OP have realised, a little late.

just play to have fun or chance of earning a bit of cash, if you don't have fun or can't earn $ then move on to other things in life. simple life principle.
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#7
On March 22 2016 17:35 Probemicro wrote:
what are you, a walking dictionary? (copy paster rather)

don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the amount of "I WANNA WIN" in the OP. what makes him think hes ENTITLED to winning, just because he practiced hard? does he not realise that others have worked just as hard or even harder than him? (like koget who i heard practiced a lot with TT). everyone likes to think of themselves as special snowflakes, when in reality only a few are ever born as one.

its pointless to have this kind of competitive mentality in a old tough game like BW with no more functional pro scene.
as the OP have realised, a little late.

just play to have fun or chance of earning a bit of cash, if you don't have fun or can't earn $ then move on to other things in life. simple life principle.


my point is this: nowhere in the OP does he say "I should have won" "I should have gotten more than the round of 32". Nowhere near the level of obnoxiousness you're accusing him of or the slander you're putting out.

if you'd take a second to sit down and look at what was actually written instead of being cute and playing tough guy it simply says that he wanted to achieve something, he practiced for it worked hard got his ass handed to him and realized he wasnt gonna make it.

nowhere does he write he should have won or does he express entitlement or anger or any of the childish immaturity you're accusing him of. it's mostly sadness and contemplation.

it helps a lot if you read what's actually said instead of being pissy about something that came out of your head and not seen by your eyes
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:45 GMT
#8
iow you're an idiot
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 185
Nathanias 155
ProTech147
JuggernautJason52
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 78
scan(afreeca) 43
NaDa 14
Hm[arnc] 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm127
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor237
Other Games
tarik_tv6592
summit1g4611
fl0m922
JimRising 203
Maynarde171
ZombieGrub51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick767
BasetradeTV61
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 71
• Hupsaiya 64
• Berry_CruncH40
• davetesta40
• mYiSmile13
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki51
• RayReign 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22580
League of Legends
• Doublelift6333
Other Games
• imaqtpie2703
• Scarra1396
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
18m
BSL 21
19h 18m
Sziky vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
1d 17h
BSL 21
1d 19h
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.