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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 03:31:08
March 22 2016 05:38 GMT
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 22 2016 06:21 GMT
#2
They have Nation Wars coming up. I think the time to play BW ended some time ago. Currently, you don't have the resources to advance enough unless you really study replays diligently and put 8hrs a day into practice. (sometimes more) Playing BW these days is a bit meaningless though as even the 'best' players have lost their competitive nature and don't take it as seriously anymore.

About school. School is a competition. You are competing against all your class mates for top mark. Sometimes, you will teach a class mate or work with them to improve your understanding but the whole focus is just to become smarter so you can perform better and as a result get a better mark.

The point is, even if you beat Koget, the chances of winning the whole tournament was low so somewhere along the line you would have felt inadequate and there aren't enough future chances for your redemption so don't take it so hard. I decided that I wasn't even going to compete because I knew that I wouldn't have enough time to prepare to win the tournament and in my opinion the only reason to play these is to win. During the TLS mini tours last year I was performing decently but there were a few players that I had difficulty in ladder games against. I knew my limits and restrictions at the time and that set my choice. No regrets even though I never won a major tournament, BW is just a stepping stone to the completion of your life.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#3
I felt like I was giving up in a way by leaving StarCraft, like I had something to prove. Then again, I realized I would always feel like I didn't do enough while playing StarCraft because my original motivation was conducive to an unstable mindset. I was too focused on winning.

I wanted to win but at the same time that's all the motivation was, to win. The pursuit felt empty, like there wasn't any substance that held any true meaning behind the endeavor. Even when I'm playing I never felt like I was putting in all of my energies because I didn't have a cause worthy enough. When I was met by defeat, I would always extend the time I played StarCraft in a futile effort to achieve greatness that never existed. There was a point that was created that I would never reach, I would never get that "good" to where my mind wanted.


for anyone whose ever wanted to seriously compete this is the heartbreaker that you eventually realize and learn to accept

in the end, unless you're able to compete with the very best (not just high level foreigners, but the korean players with famous names) there's no greatness. whatever pride you find is vanishing and it never lasts long enough. trying to pretend it's meaningful just makes it feel even more hollow.

there's nothing to really gain but money. and even then you'd probably make more money and padding a resume working a real job for the amount of hours spent.

it's a funny and cruel lesson that you learn too late. rekrul put it very eloquently when he basically concluded that it's all a waste of time even at the level he was at.

but there are lessons somewhere in all of it, some you learn from insight and from yourself when you see the game and what you've done as a metaphor and use your judgement to interpret what it means.

there's no shame in giving it up, it means you're a little wiser and older now.
just don't give up or run away from life.
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
March 22 2016 07:48 GMT
#4
lol

so what do you want, some fancy title that appears in your profile that shows that you reached the ro32/whatever of a tournament like steam achievements?

if you regard playing BW as any more than that of a simple hobby, i feel sorry for you.
worst is that you do not really have fun and yet you feel some sort of entitlement...
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:02 GMT
#5
On March 22 2016 16:48 Probemicro wrote:
lol

so what do you want, some fancy title that appears in your profile that shows that you reached the ro32/whatever of a tournament like steam achievements?

if you regard playing BW as any more than that of a simple hobby, i feel sorry for you.
worst is that you do not really have fun and yet you feel some sort of entitlement...


en·ti·tle·ment
inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt
permission, dispensation, privilege
the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.


i think you're misinterpreting what he's sharing if that's the conclusion you've reached after reading.


chi·me·ra
kīˈmirə,kəˈmirə
illusion, fantasy, dream,
a thing that is hoped or wished for but in fact is illusory or impossible to achieve.


re·al·i·za·tion
ˌrē(ə)ləˈzāSH(ə)n
awareness, understanding, comprehension,
an act of becoming fully aware of something as a fact.


re·flec·tion
rəˈflekSH(ə)n
thinking, consideration, contemplation
serious thought or consideration.

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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-22 08:37:41
March 22 2016 08:35 GMT
#6
what are you, a walking dictionary? (copy paster rather)

don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the amount of "I WANNA WIN" in the OP. what makes him think hes ENTITLED to winning, just because he practiced hard? does he not realise that others have worked just as hard or even harder than him? (like koget who i heard practiced a lot with TT). everyone likes to think of themselves as special snowflakes, when in reality only a few are ever born as one.

its pointless to have this kind of competitive mentality in a old tough game like BW with no more functional pro scene.
as the OP have realised, a little late.

just play to have fun or chance of earning a bit of cash, if you don't have fun or can't earn $ then move on to other things in life. simple life principle.
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:44 GMT
#7
On March 22 2016 17:35 Probemicro wrote:
what are you, a walking dictionary? (copy paster rather)

don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the amount of "I WANNA WIN" in the OP. what makes him think hes ENTITLED to winning, just because he practiced hard? does he not realise that others have worked just as hard or even harder than him? (like koget who i heard practiced a lot with TT). everyone likes to think of themselves as special snowflakes, when in reality only a few are ever born as one.

its pointless to have this kind of competitive mentality in a old tough game like BW with no more functional pro scene.
as the OP have realised, a little late.

just play to have fun or chance of earning a bit of cash, if you don't have fun or can't earn $ then move on to other things in life. simple life principle.


my point is this: nowhere in the OP does he say "I should have won" "I should have gotten more than the round of 32". Nowhere near the level of obnoxiousness you're accusing him of or the slander you're putting out.

if you'd take a second to sit down and look at what was actually written instead of being cute and playing tough guy it simply says that he wanted to achieve something, he practiced for it worked hard got his ass handed to him and realized he wasnt gonna make it.

nowhere does he write he should have won or does he express entitlement or anger or any of the childish immaturity you're accusing him of. it's mostly sadness and contemplation.

it helps a lot if you read what's actually said instead of being pissy about something that came out of your head and not seen by your eyes
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BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
March 22 2016 08:45 GMT
#8
iow you're an idiot
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