There is a stupid video that has emerged showing the pointless killing of an unarmed 17 year old black man in Chicago named LaQuan McDonald. It is being said that 81 minutes of videotape were edited from a nearby Burger King to cover this up. Having watched the dashcam footage, it feels heavily edited to me. I believe that there is no chance that this boy deserved to be shot even if he did have a knife, which I don't believe he even had. He was clearly walking away. Resistance is not a reason to shoot someone 16 times. Taze the guy, put him in a mental hospital, or jail, whatever, but race relations in this country are at a boiling point. This is the last thing we needed to happen in Chicago.
There are threats being put out against white people that go to the University of Chicago. Judging African Americans who would take part in some knockout game type activity or rioting, and being destructive towards the local Macy's would be the same thing as saying the entire white community are racist KKK members because some power hungry trigger happy weirdo decided to pull the trigger and take a child's life.
It saddens me that, from the information I weened, the right to sepulcher seems to have been initially at least initially denied. There is a case in New York City regarding a longstanding murder case that was just opened based upon a guy's Jinxy account of events and a family's request for the right to sepulcher. I hadn't ever heard of it, but I sure did hear some NAACP members praying to have been able to bury the child in peace. It is reminiscent of the movie Amistad when the guy dies in the jail/camp/holding area they have all the slaves. All they want is the body...
I digress, It is ridiculous to have to see this over and over again. The fact that it gets onto video every quarter [of the year] .... it is going on a lot more than that. It's not just unarmed black people either, this happens across the board. There was a boy that stole his dad's truck because he wanted to get a pack of cigarettes, also a child like this one, who ended up getting shot multiple times .... all over his father calling the police and the boy being disobedient to his father and or the police.
As far as I know disobedience isn't a reason to take someone's life
I've read that he was 16, but that's neither here or there. What I've seen from the fact that this happened, and the fact that the recent high profile killings of various African Americans across the country at the hands of police has pretty much brought the entire conversation about race relations to a culmination. As of now I am living in Spain and have not seen a single race related killing (or police killing for that matter) and this has made me very frustrated with the state of things in the U.S. In general our unwillingness to at least partially ban guns, place stricter requirements on being part of the police, and really work to any logical end on reducing violence in our country is laid at the alter because of outdated and uneducated opinions.
R.I.P. Such a story is just terrible. Can' t know the story but, shooting someone 16 times is a serious overkill, after you have fired 3 times and stopped the person, that should be considered self defence. I hope that the guy gets his justice
You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
On December 04 2015 10:56 Sermokala wrote: You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
What is federalism? Sounds more abstract than the police.. Not saying you're wrong about the rioting but the way you talk about the BLM movement like it's separate from yourself is offensive.
On December 04 2015 10:56 Sermokala wrote: You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
What is federalism? Sounds more abstract than the police.. Not saying you're wrong about the rioting but the way you talk about the BLM movement like it's separate from yourself is offensive.
I'm sorry what? Maybe I wouldn't have said anything but at this point I have a huge fucking problem with the term "offensive". What's so offensive? Why does something being offensive matter? What are you even saying?
On December 04 2015 10:56 Sermokala wrote: You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
What is federalism? Sounds more abstract than the police.. Not saying you're wrong about the rioting but the way you talk about the BLM movement like it's separate from yourself is offensive.
I'm sorry what? Maybe I wouldn't have said anything but at this point I have a huge fucking problem with the term "offensive". What's so offensive? Why does something being offensive matter? What are you even saying?
It's just my opinion that it's bad for the heart to be so desensitized from the issue of black people. Offensive, I'm sure you know what that means.
I'll expand on "distanced from the issue" since it seems like you want to act as if I'm saying nothing. Distancing one's self is when one does not empathize with the another party in trouble. It is ethnocentric
So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves
There is no citation provided and it tells his own opinion. It's only one side of a many sided story. Sorry to offend you.
and with that I leave another side of the story Tupac- Changes
On December 04 2015 10:56 Sermokala wrote: You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
What is federalism? Sounds more abstract than the police.. Not saying you're wrong about the rioting but the way you talk about the BLM movement like it's separate from yourself is offensive.
I'm sorry what? Maybe I wouldn't have said anything but at this point I have a huge fucking problem with the term "offensive". What's so offensive? Why does something being offensive matter? What are you even saying?
It's just my opinion that it's bad for the heart to be so desensitized from the issue of black people. Offensive, I'm sure you know what that means.
I'll expand on "distanced from the issue" since it seems like you want to act as if I'm saying nothing. Distancing one's self is when one does not empathize with the another party in trouble. It is ethnocentric
I think it's important to understand that there very much is a difference between BLM and concern for the lives of black people. Fundamentally, the issues are completely disconnected from the social groups that fight for it.
BLM is a social movement. I'm not super well versed about it for one because there are many issues to be concerned about. A few weeks or days ago (I can't keep track anymore because of how often this happens), the BLM movement voiced its concerns about how the media was not reporting about their struggle due to other world events that were taking place. It also happened after the Paris bombings. "People care about terrorism in Europe but not about black lives" on the day after over a hundred people died in a shooting.
Now I care about black lives. Hell, I care about a lot of social issues. I don't see why I should give a single shit about the movements that support them. BLM is a shit show. But black lives matter.
Do you find this offensive? Because you might. And if you do, I'm fully in my right to offend you.
Point being, there is nothing offensive about criticizing the tangible ways in which people are fighting for social change, even when social change is necessary. Some people are more pragmatic, others have a more dogmatic approach. Discussion about how BLM might be missing the point is legitimate as fuck.
On December 04 2015 10:56 Sermokala wrote: You like the BLM movement are missing the point entirely. So black people are rioting why should the rest of the country care? they keep burning down their own cities and making their situation worse for themselves. Being against abstract concepts like "the system" or "the police" do nothing but waste peoples energy and get people nowhere. The real problem poor black ghettos face is federalism. The poor parts of the country are left to fend for and improve themselves while the better off parts of the country treat the poor like a sickness. Arguing about getting better education is a farce when your parents socioeconomic standing being such an indicator of your economic outlook.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
A couple other things that make what the guy did worse that you missed 1. He wasn't the first guy on the scene and rolled up in his car almost right next to the kid despite his first responsibility is to traffic in this situation. 2. He was the only guy firing and had to be stopped after he reloaded. Normally cops fire together when one cop starts fireing. 3. He was walking away from the cop and wasn't saying anything threatening to the cop. Literaly no reason to start fireing even considering the common "self defence".
But again he was allowed to stay on the force and collect a paycheck and benefits for a year before charges were even filed and he was arrested.
What is federalism? Sounds more abstract than the police.. Not saying you're wrong about the rioting but the way you talk about the BLM movement like it's separate from yourself is offensive.
I'm sorry what? Maybe I wouldn't have said anything but at this point I have a huge fucking problem with the term "offensive". What's so offensive? Why does something being offensive matter? What are you even saying?
It's just my opinion that it's bad for the heart to be so desensitized from the issue of black people. Offensive, I'm sure you know what that means.
I'll expand on "distanced from the issue" since it seems like you want to act as if I'm saying nothing. Distancing one's self is when one does not empathize with the another party in trouble. It is ethnocentric
I think it's important to understand that there very much is a difference between BLM and concern for the lives of black people. Fundamentally, the issues are completely disconnected from the social groups that fight for it.
BLM is a social movement. I'm not super well versed about it for one because there are many issues to be concerned about. A few weeks or days ago (I can't keep track anymore because of how often this happens), the BLM movement voiced its concerns about how the media was not reporting about their struggle due to other world events that were taking place. It also happened after the Paris bombings. "People care about terrorism in Europe but not about black lives" on the day after over a hundred people died in a shooting.
Now I care about black lives. Hell, I care about a lot of social issues. I don't see why I should give a single shit about the movements that support them. BLM is a shit show. But black lives matter.
Do you find this offensive? Because you might. And if you do, I'm fully in my right to offend you.
Point being, there is nothing offensive about criticizing the tangible ways in which people are fighting for social change, even when social change is necessary. Some people are more pragmatic, others have a more dogmatic approach. Discussion about how BLM might be missing the point is legitimate as fuck.
Well if you're not well versed in it that's step one to a good criticism. The media can sensationalize stories if it pleases.
The fact that you don't know what federalism means is the point. Its the basic concept on how the country is set up. Its like explaining to someone what the electoral college is who doesn't understand what democracy is.
On December 05 2015 03:46 Sermokala wrote: The fact that you don't know what federalism means is the point. Its the basic concept on how the country is set up. Its like explaining to someone what the electoral college is who doesn't understand what democracy is.
Do you not realize it was a complete year from when it happened from when the video was released? Whatever the cop did his involvement ended that night. The former Obama chief of staff didn't want it getting out to the public 2 months before his election. Then thought that the government should just pay out 5 million in cash before even considering what a time bomb they were sitting on. These aren't some bogeymen out to get black people they're the people that those black people elected.
Well, anyways. this was information I didn't have. That's messed up. Bernie Sanders just tweeted
Any elected official with knowledge that the tape of Laquan McDonald’s murder was being suppressed or improperly withheld should resign.
It is the most common response to hide stuff from the people you wish to protect.
Governments kill people. "States"/governments exists as they are because WE are lazy non committal careless selfish "unique snowflakes" (#insert corn flakes box jpg here). Always thinking someone will be there to make it all better, all safe. People don't even invest in their own kids...
We are the governments we spit on. Go vote, go lobby, go change the world until it blows.
EPT
