Comments: > yes yes yes > I'm so used to eating shit > at least I don't have to stay up eating this shit > teams are throwing to let western's guard down, then take a month off vacation playing RPG, then eat the shit
http://bbs.sgamer.com/thread-12767149-1-1.html After watching the strategy of secret, EG, and OG, I want to ask... Western doto all kinds of new strats and playstyles, and mostly they practiced in pubs What strategy did the Chinese team actually practice?
Poll: Chinese teams were practicing... streaming (5%) practice useless, innate talent all the way (2%) practiced magnus and alchemist (3%) didn't fucking practice r u kidding me lmao (90%)
Poll: I want to watch... western daddies: Frankfurt major was the best dota I've watched (90%) chinese lame chickens: Gave me such a heart ache and made me eat shit fuck (10%)
Comments: > Just EE double rapier game is amazing, other games are pretty meh tbh (x5)
Poll: What can possibly be going on?! This means Super is actually hardworking (2%) This means Super is still a tard, didn't know why he lost BP (1%) This means Super got blamed by teammates, watching to prove he wasn't at fault (5%) This means Super is watching if Burning is the worst player, and contemplating using their sub (91%)
Comments: > YJ (the sub): Burning you go solo mid, I'll carry you! (x5)
From Suzoku via /r/DotA2/ 猴哥 is one of the famous bandwagoners on sg. What makes him special is that everytime he supports a team, the team will start having issues and drop off in terms of performance. So the joke here is the sgers praising him for fucking up a team
post gist: Kept trying to make the dream team after a loss, are you kidding me lmao After TI4, rtz / zai leave EG. EG picks up AUI and Sumail. Who thought they're the dream team? After TI5, secret disbands, finds EE and Misery from C9, finds 2nd rate retiree PLD, finds W33 which nobody knew. Who thought they're the dream team? Just wait until some team starts to do well, then everyone just go Oh shit dream team! Let's have one too!
Let me say something from the bottom of my heart: Make dream team my fucking ass!!!
Conversely let's look at the supposed dream team. Secret of last year, RT-chiken and Zai-chicken got pounded by old EG teammates, barely makes it to top 8. DK 2014, my fucking god, Asian dream team, CN doto renaissance, gets send to the airplane by the very people Burning kicked.
Everyone of you just kept dreaming some dream team instead of practice, what a joke
Poll: RT-Zhicken try to make dream team, shame! (3%) Burning try to make dream team, shame! (3%) Dream team my ass, bunch of trash huddling to make warm (94%)
On November 22 2015 10:39 goody153 wrote: nice lol ty for this
shut up and subscribe to my youtube channel keppo. fucking nobody ever care about my cooking videos haha Then I spend 30 min doing some translation piece and ppl go crazy
On November 22 2015 10:55 Sn0_Man wrote: The chinese fans seem to be pretty well versed in dank memes themselves what a generation we are part of
ps i like ur cooking vids T_T
I think chinese lend itself to better dank memes because the language is more expressive than english. the nicknames we have for Bone7 as 崩7 is something you can't do well in English. That being said I hope ROTZ catches on
edit: The retard type pokemon was my favorite comment, it's originally presented as + Show Spoiler +
珍贵的智障属*吗？
except the word "type" is "属性" in Chinese, with the 2nd character also meaning sex. So they replaced the character with a * to censorship it. So it reads something like "Isn't he the rare retard *** pokemon?"
Thanks for translating some of the reactions. Always interesting to see how the chinese netizens think and meme Makes me wish I would have continued learning Mandarin.
On November 22 2015 10:39 goody153 wrote: nice lol ty for this
shut up and subscribe to my youtube channel keppo. fucking nobody ever care about my cooking videos haha Then I spend 30 min doing some translation piece and ppl go crazy
now that's not the way how you gain support from people evan lol
-the whole ROTZ thing is i think OTZ being a little emoticon of a guy on his knees begging for forgiveness or in despair or it's a play on ROTK
either way it's a pretty good pun.
-foaming at the mouth i believe references alch himself. double entendre.
-the EE (jacky mao) thing is just what we've got with our fEEd and whatnot. the euphemism is that when EE does something weird and it fails flat a bit, it's called "making art".
-in case the first topic doesn't really make sense, eating shit is like 'sucking shit', underperforming, or as a fan literally eating shit because your team is doing so poorly. shanghai is chinese territory and it's like losing on home turf which is a huge 'loss of face' or in other words super embarassing. at least they don't have to stay up to eat shit, rofl. it's all accentuated by the idea that certain teams don't practice very much and just sit on their winnings (see na'vis earlier days), as well as prominent players sitting at home and playing other games by themselves instead of practicing for an upcoming tournament. (another slap in the face for diehard fans, which is the 430 and CSGO reference).
i wouldn't say chinese is a more expressive language than english is. the limits to the expression just change the forming and pairings of words. chinese is very poetic and there's a lot of space for word-play, but english has a lot of amazing stuff that you can't really do in other languages either.
Looks exactly like what they were writing after Korean LoL takeover. It is hilarious because all the Chinese Dota players were like: "Get your shit together Chinese LoL, you guys are too lazy and unorganized, no wonder Korean LoL is so much better."
Even by being EPL of dota and buying all the top Korean players they couldn't even outpace EU LoL.
Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
isnt that the same everywhere? you always have a few guys just cheering for good dota or have a fan of a certain chinese team / player here and there, but mostly people cheer for teams on their "home region". you dont even have a lot of eg fans in europe and its probably one of the more hated teams around here.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
There's an interesting dynamic here for sure going back to Dota 1. Spoilering a long text.
Back then, EU was considered the strongest, and the Chinese did care about and respect the top Western players and teams, your LoHs, Lodas, Vigosses, because frankly Chinese dota was very underdeveloped. Some of the earliest webcasted games were atrocious to watch and seemed like some #dotapickup midskill stuff. However that started to change going back to Kingsurfs top 4 in the mym pride tourney, surprising pretty much everyone that an Asian team can play that well and on that kind of ping. Even then people were saying that EU would only lose because of the shit ping and not because of skill.
So western teams kind of mostly kept to themselves, Asian ones did the same cause of the really bad pings. The Chinese however did follow certain players and teams in the west just based on the replay archive at sgamers. Again the facade that western teams were superior was perpetuated since we never really had a straight up LAN fight. Until the Alienware Cup and ESWC 2008 (I think, the one in California), where Asian teams absolutely curb stomped the fuck out of the top western teams. ESWC 2010 in Paris pretty much confirmed it with Ehome just dismantling every one. This period is what Puppey referred to when he said something like he thought he was good at this game and then getting a very rude wakeup call.
Around this time is when I noticed a significant shift in how the Chinese treated their players and teams, much more pride and "chest thumping" than before. The illusion was effectively dispelled, it was obvious who had the best teams. Basically, there was an actual reason for chinese to care about their teams and only their teams. Western teams never fully recovered until TI1 with Navi. Now its kind of funny to see the Chinese scene end up where the western scene was, formerly at the top and rest of the world caught up when they were too busy feeling themselves.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
isnt that the same everywhere? you always have a few guys just cheering for good dota or have a fan of a certain chinese team / player here and there, but mostly people cheer for teams on their "home region". you dont even have a lot of eg fans in europe and its probably one of the more hated teams around here.
this is true in sports in general right? Not good or bad, just is. I think the more you know about the sport the more you'd cheer for actual skills, but when you don't know much about the sport you'd more likely to cheer your close affiliates. I don't think it's inherently wrong.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
There actually are fans who admire teams outside their country. You simply don't pay attention to any of it. During TI5 I remember watching a video someone posted on reddit of one visiting CIS player trying to escape out a window to avoid his fans while in China. It was pretty funny.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
isnt that the same everywhere? you always have a few guys just cheering for good dota or have a fan of a certain chinese team / player here and there, but mostly people cheer for teams on their "home region". you dont even have a lot of eg fans in europe and its probably one of the more hated teams around here.
this is true in sports in general right? Not good or bad, just is. I think the more you know about the sport the more you'd cheer for actual skills, but when you don't know much about the sport you'd more likely to cheer your close affiliates. I don't think it's inherently wrong.
yeah its true for all sports but i dont think it matters that much or even at all how knowledgeable one is. most fans pick their team for very arbitrary reasons (like player x, team y is from my country or even like playstyle z). i think that is a good thing tbh, because it really makes live events. you need people cheering for all teams to make for a great atmosphere.
On November 25 2015 09:03 gaijindash wrote: Whenever I read these all it tells me is China is so insular, and basically only cares about its own teams and whether or not they are the best. Would be nice to see Chinese fans Western teams some day.
There actually are fans who admire teams outside their country. You simply don't pay attention to any of it. During TI5 I remember watching a video someone posted on reddit of one visiting CIS player trying to escape out a window to avoid his fans while in China. It was pretty funny.
haha. that reminds me of your grubbies, your moons back in wc3 days. hordes and hordes of fans swarming them after the games. which is why it's good to see what the fandom sort of is in different areas. the only way somebody like myself could get a chinese opinion on dota 2 is if i first made friends with some dota players who follow the pro-scene, who live in china, and/or understand communicate with other fans the same way. it's their front yard, so to speak. and TL nadota, etc. is ours.
i talk to my friend about different esports all the time, and she's always surprised that when there's events for different games running at the same time, that some ro8 has many more viewers than a grandfinals for another game. blizzcon for example. if we take away the fact that the main stream is covered entirely in english, the main factor is usually which region the team is from. china vs china finals? USA vs USA quarterfinals? lol. it just happens for a very obvious reason. china/SEA (as you can see) are getting accustomed to watching for good dota, and not just for what happens at TI. certainly understanding english helps.
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Makes me wish I would have continued learning Mandarin.
