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nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:27:04
June 24 2015 22:08 GMT
#1
News from the SSCAIT server.

New bot: GarmBot, by Aurélien Lermant. Welcome!
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Another day, another zvz. (notice the minimap)

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22 drone 4 hatch 10 wtf ??? Good thing 1 hatch is gone...

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and the main

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99 yellow subzerlingballons (who saw the nest in the previous shot?)

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One small village!

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22 4hatch into 1base more queens?

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Mattsson long distance mining op threatened.

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New natural shut down.

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How many queens do you spot? Tip: what are those green dots on the minimap? Oh and the BP Mattsson main got killed while his lings were away. GG!

After being uploaded only a couple of days ago, his winrate is about 50% already. This was a typical GarmBot game: expand all over the place on about 20 drones, then send lings and hydras (and as of today queens with broodling) from any expansion not taken by the enemy. Usually, the enemy army of about 150 supply is out in the middle, or killing off expansions 1 by one, with no-one at home. So the main gets killed. Naturally this is highly effective, as well as entertaining. A new zerg, which doesn't 5pool, but plays hide, seek and backstab. I'll be watching this one ^^


tscmoo vs odin2014
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Our friendly neighbourhood zerg vs a zealot all-inner.

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Walling off at the 5 min mark, good or bad?

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Rokuro-ga! (Lurkers)

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Will they be in time?

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Lurkers out in the open...

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but none at home!

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Finally, but the natural has to be rebuilt.

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1 base lurker play, in 2015? Only at SSCAIT.

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Is 5 lurkers enough to stop the zealot train?

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Not if there is an observer (which you can't see (because it is cloaked)). Retreat!

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Zealots at the natural! They're coming through!

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Help!

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Counter-poke at the 3rd

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and the nat

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and the 4th.

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Look what's on top of the nexus!

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And the defilers are marching in. GG!

Truth be told, Odin2014 isn't just zealots. Ok it makes a lot. But there were reavers, observers and templars (didn't manange to screenshot one storming a lurker ). Good fight, but in the end tscmoo was too good. No shame though, it's a monster.


GarmBot vs Rafal Poniatowski

After Rafal killed GarmBot's natural, he couldn't get his army up the main ramp because of all the harassment. Then it turned into 10 vs 2 base, with a rather unusual unit composition.

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Count the queens!

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Queens.

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Queens!

More SCVs died to spawn broodling than to anything else.

*****
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 24 2015 23:27 GMT
#2
interesting!

Just curious, are there like 8 rax bunker rush AIs or 9/9 gate protoss AI? If so, how can I play against them and practice my anti-cheeeese defense?
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
June 24 2015 23:28 GMT
#3
Interesting. I'd expect success against other Zerg AIs, as almost all of them seemed to have no coding beyond zergling rush at the last tournament, but 50% win rate including other match-ups too? Looks like proper scouting code is not yet common.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 25 2015 01:33 GMT
#4
These battle reports are cool, and that is a pretty nice strategy. Looking forward to more
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 25 2015 02:18 GMT
#5
On June 25 2015 08:27 ninazerg wrote:
interesting!

Just curious, are there like 8 rax bunker rush AIs or 9/9 gate protoss AI? If so, how can I play against them and practice my anti-cheeeese defense?


I'm interested too
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 25 2015 12:38 GMT
#6
Maybe I get into this when we need to develop some software next semester.

That ling horde O.O

What did the queens do exactly? Also, how does it survive 5 pool/9/9 gate/BBS rush AI?
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nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-25 19:55:19
June 25 2015 17:10 GMT
#7
ninazerg/JieXian: here is a list of bots you can download. You need BWAPI to play against them. Bit of reading and fiddling, but well worth it. For terran cheese try LetaBot. 5pool bot here.

Hesmyrr: GarmBot does ok vs all matchups, but that is because, as you say, not all bots have proper scouting and/or acting on scouting info. To say good scouting isn't common would be a stretch, I'd say 50% of the bots have good scouting.

c3rberUs: Please do get into this, it's great fun (and good for your 1337 skillz). Lots of stuff here, it's a new website with all the links on the front page, but for a start you'll be set

The queens do spawn broodling, but it isn't really an effective strategy, as queens can't consume. Still, given time, queen/hydra/ling will kill stuff :p
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
June 26 2015 12:24 GMT
#8
Interesting stuff ! Please keep doing more AI Battle Reports !
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
June 26 2015 14:34 GMT
#9
On June 25 2015 08:27 ninazerg wrote:
interesting!

Just curious, are there like 8 rax bunker rush AIs or 9/9 gate protoss AI? If so, how can I play against them and practice my anti-cheeeese defense?


LetaBot has several rush and 1 base timing push strategies. The version on SSCAI and the DLL on the AIIDE don't have all of them yet. These strategies are also mainly designed for use against other bots, so don't expect my bot to try and hide the fact that it is bunker rushing (not a problem if you only want to use it for practise against a rush ofc).
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
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