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[Trivia] The near-accomplishments of KT_Flash in B

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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 17:36:10
May 05 2015 16:36 GMT
#1
(T)Flash was nicknamed "God" because he surpassed all of the previous bonjwas. With three MSL victories and three OSL victories, he tied (T)NaDa's 6 accomplishments (though if you also count Proleague, WCG, or GOM Classic in this measure, Flash surpassed him). For comparison--(T)iloveoov: 5; (Z)Jaedong: 5; (Z)sAviOr: 4; (P)Bisu: 3; (T)BoxeR: 3; (Z)July: 3; everybody else: 2 or less.

But what's possibly less known is just how close he was to a complete and total domination of all the records that were set before him:

- He was one map away from winning 2010 Korean Air OSL versus (Z)EffOrt, which would've made him an unprecedented 4-time OSL winner. Had he won this OSL, he would have won dual starleagues twice. The only players to have ever won dual starleagues are (T)NaDa (2003) and Flash (later in 2010).
- He was two maps away from winning 2009 NATE MSL (one of those losses was due to the infamous power loss) versus (Z)Jaedong, which would've made him an unprecedented 4-time MSL winner.
- Had Flash accomplished both of the above two, he would have won all 6 starleagues in 2010.
- He lost the final ace match of 2012 SK Planet Proleague Season 1 to (P)Bisu. Had he won, he would've achieved the three-peat for KT Rolster. (For the record, no other team in Proleague has won back-to-back grand finals except KT Rolster with Flash.)
- He tied (T)iloveoov's 16 win streak in Proleague, but then lost to (P)Dear. Had he won that map, he would have set another record.
- He spent 14 months with the highest KeSPA rating (2011 Jun ~ 2012 Jul), before he was bumped off by (T)FanTaSy in 2012 Tving OSL, who proceeded to take the #1 spot. Had Flash won that fateful series, he would have ended Brood War at the top of the ranking, and dethroned (T)NaDa's 16-month streak (2003 Apr ~ 2004 Jul). Flash did, however, have the highest ELO peak of all time, both in total and in all three TvX matchups.

It's difficult to argue that Flash was not the Greatest Of All Time in Brood War. But had he won just seven more maps than he did, it would have been entirely indisputable.

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2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 05 2015 17:17 GMT
#2
flash's TvZ is godlike, im zerg and i still cheer for him whenever he plays tvz..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2024 Posts
May 05 2015 17:45 GMT
#3
On May 06 2015 02:17 Endymion wrote:
flash's TvZ is godlike, im zerg and i still cheer for him whenever he plays tvz..


Another fun fact, for an entire year (Aug-2011 to Aug-2012), Flash had a 100% win rate in TvZ series, losing just a single map to (Z)Shine

2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
May 05 2015 18:36 GMT
#4
All I see is "shoulda woulda coulda". 5/5 for making a blog pointing out your gods failures. What's next? Bisu fans making a blog on how close he was to winning OSLs?

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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10280 Posts
May 05 2015 21:03 GMT
#5
should put in how high his kespa rating got at one point (4.2k i think) and like the next closest was only 2k or something.
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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
May 06 2015 02:40 GMT
#6
This is why we consider him a deity, in addition to the ruler.

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 06 2015 05:27 GMT
#7
His GOAT status is indisputable on accomplishments and win % alone, even without the choke vs Effort. True he holds the ELO records for every T matchup but he also dominated opposing races more than non-terrans (basically each of his matchups was more dominant than the best matchup of any other BW pro). Notably JD is second in ELO peaks vs all 3 races - a testament to Flash's greatness as he dominated with historically strong opposition like Fantasy/JD/Jangbi.

KT would've 3-peated too if it wasn't for that travesty of an ace map.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 06 2015 16:44 GMT
#8
Flash was a scrub for the 3-peat, never had a chance vs fantasy or bisu

Hoejja would have gotten the 3 peat sealed though
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2024 Posts
May 06 2015 18:40 GMT
#9
On May 07 2015 01:44 N.geNuity wrote:
Flash was a scrub for the 3-peat, never had a chance vs fantasy or bisu

Hoejja would have gotten the 3 peat sealed though


Imagine the hate that the KT coach would've received if he didn't send out Flash for the final ace.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
May 06 2015 21:32 GMT
#10
On May 07 2015 03:40 LightSpectra wrote:
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On May 07 2015 01:44 N.geNuity wrote:
Flash was a scrub for the 3-peat, never had a chance vs fantasy or bisu

Hoejja would have gotten the 3 peat sealed though


Imagine the hate that the KT coach would've received if he didn't send out Flash for the final ace.

The same hate coach park got when he sent out best.
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