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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 18:03:29
January 26 2015 18:02 GMT
#1
Ok the reason for this:

1.) i want to post my biased opinion .. i don't see a thread where i post this
2.) D A C H Y P E
3.) i got really really bored .. seriously i should be sleeping or doing relevant stuff instead of this

Disclaimer : This is just completely speculation level since i haven't watched most of the games of at least half the teams and this list could be completely biased. It's gonna have shit formatting probably and YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS ? IT'S MY POWER RANK DEAL WITH IT. Also sorry for the shitty grammar in advance.

I'm not including the wildcard spots on the list.



#14 Idk about this team
TongFu
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Like the title suggests since i don't know what spectacular about them. I also have not seen many games of them and they don't have good looking results either. They don't have famous eastern players. So i think they are not gonna do well.

#13 PINOY STACK OF THE KR SCENE
Rave
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#12 KOREAN OVERLORDS
MVP Phoenix
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LETS BOW ON OUR KOREAN OVERLORDS. Just kidding this is dota 2 no way that's happening.

The reason i'm putting them above Rave even if Rave won more against this team recently iirc. This team has more international exposure than Rave(both western and chinese teams) which makes them above the pinoy squad lead by Jeyo.

The possibility of them going deep this tournament is low. Given that CIS teams could beat them easily when the CIS scene is considered weaker than the Chinese scene. How much more will they against the best in the world ?

Although if the enemy teams are willing to ignore March Warlock and given that QO-GOD carry hard enough. Then upsets aren't impossible.

#11 Chinese C9
CDEC Gaming
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The title says it. They just can't close an important just like C9. And with their recent performance during D2L S5 losing to the new EG and VPP. I don't have much faith with this team.

#10 The next best CIS team to empire.
HellRaisers
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The boys in red who loves to both play 5 man dota and play the farm game. The team where EE-sama hyped every now and then. While they don't have Sonneiko(PR) the greatest carry of CIS and the chances of them going deep DAC is low. Guranteed this team will put up a great show.

#9 The allstar team where ferrari_430 should belong.
Big God
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The team with the most vibrant players from 3 out of 4 strongest chinese teams during TI4. The team is composed of DK's very own Burning which is one of the greatest chinese carries along with Sylar and Hao, Rotk the pride of VG, Lanm DK previously talented support and Xiao8 others know him as "Director8" the man who lead newbee which took the crown as best team of TI4.

On paper the team looks amazing at first since the team has the reason why DK was formed(Burning) and Xiao8 one of the best captains in dota 2 history who lead many strong teams which includes the champion of TI4. However this team hasn't shown great performance since the team is not "serious" and obviously they lack one player to make the 3/4 into 4/4.

#8 THE BEST OF N A D O T A
Evil Geniuses
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On paper probably the team who got the worst out of the great western reshuffle. Also there first showing isn't particularly good as well. (Not like C9 did great but they did better) Suma1l is certianly no arteezy and Aui_2000 felt underwhelming with the squad during the debut of the new squad.

This DAC is the time for EG squad to show they are still the best with or without arteezy. Also a time to show if Suma1l can fill the big shoes arteezy left.

If he can do well like how he is doing well in NEL great ! If not then it's ok different teams and different player.

#7 Team Fire of the East
EHOME
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Ehome looks good but probably not good enough to go deep enough to take the championship crown. They are not bad but they probably won't do well vs the strongest chinese and western team.

#6 Not the strongest chinese team anymore.
Invictus Gaming
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I don't know what to say. With June out iirc and with the rumours of burning joining may only happen after DAC. I don't see the team getting top 3.


#5 2nd Best Western Team (probably)
Cloud 9
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My heart says that this team should be 2nd1st place of the power rank but my head says otherwise. The departure of the support duo pieliedie and aui_2000 is painful as if the departure of SingSing wasn't painful enough.

It's hard to tell if the risk that cores of the team decided to take by replacing tactical feeding expert and Jasmine with the perfect flower and the offlane reject #2 of Team Secret is a good thing or a bad thing.

With how their clowny performance against Team Fire looked at DAC NA qualifiers. This could possibly still be the team that the fans fell inlove with.

If the aggressive dual support of this team will work for the good then they could possibly snipe the 2nd place1st place with the newblood of aggression. Or if this goes bad the decision to replace Kawai_2000 and pld could be a terrible terrible mistake.

I hope this is finally the tournament where EE-sama leadership will finally pay off and all the crushed hearts of C9 fans will be mended with all the second places C9 got.

EE-sama no mercy please.

#4 Chinese Powerhouse
LGD Gaming
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This team is no doubt really really really stacked. While they didn't perform the first few months after TI4 and maybe they have their reasons like not taking dota 2 seriously.

With the 2 million USD price they are definitely motivated enough. And there recent matches has a really really scary form that the potential of this team is finally picking up.

This team is really scary and if they don't dominate DAC. There is a big chance that they will dominate in the future especially if you think about the idea that they have the best carry of china right now and everybody knows that the best in china may mean the best of the world as well.(sorry Hao .. you're still the best morphling and weaver player i've ever seen)

I could be overhyping them or i could be right. Who cares.

#3 Most likable Eastern Team next to DK
Vici Gaming
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They are not very consistent but are probably the best team in the world right now. It won't be a surprise if they top 3 easily or even the championship since they have shown that they could. However for all the other scary teams in this tournament. To prove their worth they need to beat the best team in the world.

This is also the time for black to prove that he should not be replaced as their carry lol.

#2 They are the most hyped team ever since DK(probably).
Cloud 9Team Secret
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The "supposedly" juggernaut of the west. DK 2.0. You can call them whatever you want. While they have no tangible evidence that warrant them this spot on the power list since they literally no games of them as the new roster. Just the idea that they have the best mid in the west(yes i've said it), the power of the proven old na'vi support duo, one of the youngest great talents of the western scene scene(zai) and the most talented core player(aside from the dendi) that has ever graced the western scene who showed nothing but absolute excellence in all the teams he has ever played with.

I'm putting them #2 due to benefit of a doubt. Like C9 chances are this team could just fail miserably or they could just fulfill all the hype around and make DAC the debut of the strongest western team that has ever existed in the history of dota.

#1 Hao can anybody beat them ?
Newbee
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They won ECL without practice. The tournament is for 2 million dollars dude there is no way they are not practicing for the event. Honestly i don't think any of the teams have what it takes to beat them in their top condition(not even VG). The dual core Hao, Mu and the super-talented offlaner rabbit is likely gonna crush the competition and the hearts of the fans this DAC.

They already took the aegis of TI4, will they also take the rapier of DAC ?





If you reached this far. Thanks for reading cause i don't know what i'm doing with my life right now lol

EDIT: Lastly it's ok to use the teamlogo pictures of the teams here at LD, right ?
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Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
January 26 2015 18:33 GMT
#2
Nice rankings and a good read. It'll be interesting to see how all these teams shape up. I'm really rooting against Newbee though, I hope someone can knock them out early.
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 26 2015 18:34 GMT
#3
Meh this power ranking is better then most such as the c9, eg, and secret top 3 I seen but still could be improved IMO.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 26 2015 18:48 GMT
#4
ehome a little worse, c9 top3 otherwise its pretty good (to my surprise)
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greebosnabble
Profile Joined April 2014
255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 19:00:39
January 26 2015 19:00 GMT
#5
I'd put TS lower and TongFu higher, but otherwise it's ok.
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 19:20:24
January 26 2015 19:18 GMT
#6
14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB
Also Sylar better carry than Hao lmfao
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 26 2015 19:34 GMT
#7
I'm expecting 1 western team to surprise and the other 2 to dissapoint but I'm unsure which team will surprise.
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
January 26 2015 19:51 GMT
#8
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 26 2015 20:38 GMT
#9
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
January 26 2015 21:52 GMT
#10
How is dendi the most talented core player wat?
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:25:12
January 26 2015 22:24 GMT
#11
On January 27 2015 05:38 Thetwinmasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.


Ehh, iG with hao was very erratic, they were also carried by Ferrari; NB was the best team for 3 months yes, but VG was very consistent(winning ems and placing high in many tourneys)

Sylar wasn't why they lost ti3 haha but we can agree to disagree, to me sylar has always been the most consistent carry outside of burning

On January 27 2015 06:52 Zealos wrote:
How is dendi the most talented core player wat?



He was the most talented western core for a long long time
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
January 26 2015 22:31 GMT
#12
On January 27 2015 04:18 Thetwinmasters wrote:
14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB
Also Sylar better carry than Hao lmfao

This seems pretty good, though I would put HR down more and CDEC higher (probably in BG's spot). CDEC is good.
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Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 27 2015 00:01 GMT
#13
On January 27 2015 07:24 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:38 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.


Ehh, iG with hao was very erratic, they were also carried by Ferrari; NB was the best team for 3 months yes, but VG was very consistent(winning ems and placing high in many tourneys)

Sylar wasn't why they lost ti3 haha but we can agree to disagree, to me sylar has always been the most consistent carry outside of burning


Didn't VG place like top 8 at WPC and ESL right before TI? The only tourney i remember them doing well was EMS.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 27 2015 01:28 GMT
#14
s4 is better than Arteezy at mid. RTZ is a 1, sometimes playing as mid.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
January 27 2015 01:45 GMT
#15
On January 27 2015 07:24 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 05:38 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.


Ehh, iG with hao was very erratic, they were also carried by Ferrari; NB was the best team for 3 months yes, but VG was very consistent(winning ems and placing high in many tourneys)

Sylar wasn't why they lost ti3 haha but we can agree to disagree, to me sylar has always been the most consistent carry outside of burning

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 06:52 Zealos wrote:
How is dendi the most talented core player wat?



He was the most talented western core for a long long time


NB dominate the chinese scene together with DK and IG as a dark horse, VG was always the tier 1.5 who got eliminated by one of these 3
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 02:09:41
January 27 2015 02:08 GMT
#16
I'm glad you understand that your western bias exists and didn't let it HEAVILY influence your rankings, because let's face it, the west is at a HUGE disadvantage in this tournament.
BurNIng your soul.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
January 27 2015 02:41 GMT
#17
On January 27 2015 10:45 Churrass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:24 bagels21 wrote:
On January 27 2015 05:38 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.


Ehh, iG with hao was very erratic, they were also carried by Ferrari; NB was the best team for 3 months yes, but VG was very consistent(winning ems and placing high in many tourneys)

Sylar wasn't why they lost ti3 haha but we can agree to disagree, to me sylar has always been the most consistent carry outside of burning

On January 27 2015 06:52 Zealos wrote:
How is dendi the most talented core player wat?



He was the most talented western core for a long long time


NB dominate the chinese scene together with DK and IG as a dark horse, VG was always the tier 1.5 who got eliminated by one of these 3


NB was good literally for 3 months.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Newbee#Team_Achievements

iG was good late 13 and then briefly for ESL Frankfurt, they were the most inconsistent by far and went through 2 major roster swaps.
DK was the best team up until WPC and VG was the most consistent.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Vici_Gaming#Team_Achievements

Outside of the ESL fail they were top 3 in every major event. Let's not get revisionist now
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 27 2015 02:42 GMT
#18
On January 27 2015 11:41 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 10:45 Churrass wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:24 bagels21 wrote:
On January 27 2015 05:38 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:51 bagels21 wrote:
fantastic post goody. As a fellow C9 fan (or ex-fan) I agree with most of your points. I also wish people did more of these as they were a mainstay of the old days in TL BW and SC2.

Also to the poster above me; Sylar was better than Hao (up until TI4 which favored midgame aggression and then deathball pushing); though it's probably a wash these days since both have not looked world beating.

I would say Hao was a better carry than Sylar every since TI3 since Sylar choked and cost LGD games during TI3 main event while tongfu got 4th. After TI3 VG won like nothing while IG and NB got very good results.


Ehh, iG with hao was very erratic, they were also carried by Ferrari; NB was the best team for 3 months yes, but VG was very consistent(winning ems and placing high in many tourneys)

Sylar wasn't why they lost ti3 haha but we can agree to disagree, to me sylar has always been the most consistent carry outside of burning

On January 27 2015 06:52 Zealos wrote:
How is dendi the most talented core player wat?



He was the most talented western core for a long long time


NB dominate the chinese scene together with DK and IG as a dark horse, VG was always the tier 1.5 who got eliminated by one of these 3


NB was good literally for 3 months.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Newbee#Team_Achievements

iG was good late 13 and then briefly for ESL Frankfurt, they were the most inconsistent by far and went through 2 major roster swaps.
DK was the best team up until WPC and VG was the most consistent.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Vici_Gaming#Team_Achievements

Outside of the ESL fail they were top 3 in every major event. Let's not get revisionist now

That is missing Season 2 of WPC aka not pay out where they bombed out and placed 8th
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
January 27 2015 02:46 GMT
#19
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 27 2015 02:55 GMT
#20
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 03:05:47
January 27 2015 03:01 GMT
#21
On January 27 2015 11:55 Thetwinmasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?


Things move pretty fast in the Dota2 world, once NaVi and Alliance look all but invicible, as well as iG and NB. Today these teams seem vulnerable enough. 3 months ago, no one thought MVP would make a deep run in any tourney outside of Korea. So yeah, given EHOME's current performance I don't see them going anywhere but up?
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 27 2015 03:23 GMT
#22
On January 27 2015 12:01 ncsix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 11:55 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?


Things move pretty fast in the Dota2 world, once NaVi and Alliance look all but invicible, as well as iG and NB. Today these teams seem vulnerable enough. 3 months ago, no one thought MVP would make a deep run in any tourney outside of Korea. So yeah, given EHOME's current performance I don't see them going anywhere but up?

How in the world are NB vulnerable when they just stomped ECL with no practice and mu hungover? I do agree IG is a lot weaker right now especially since who the fuck knows what roster they are even playing with.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
January 27 2015 03:24 GMT
#23
On January 27 2015 12:01 ncsix wrote:
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On January 27 2015 11:55 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?


Things move pretty fast in the Dota2 world, once NaVi and Alliance look all but invicible, as well as iG and NB. Today these teams seem vulnerable enough. 3 months ago, no one thought MVP would make a deep run in any tourney outside of Korea. So yeah, given EHOME's current performance I don't see them going anywhere but up?


i agree, LGD has looked really inconsistent with the star squad and Ehome have been in really good form lately. Also iG don't have a 5th player right now lol and Luo is not as good as ZYF. (outside of 430, iG's cores are all worse than Ehome's cores)

NB/VG are probably top 2 imo, 3rd to 10th could really be any order
ncsix
Profile Joined February 2012
1370 Posts
January 27 2015 03:37 GMT
#24
On January 27 2015 12:23 Thetwinmasters wrote:
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On January 27 2015 12:01 ncsix wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:55 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?


Things move pretty fast in the Dota2 world, once NaVi and Alliance look all but invicible, as well as iG and NB. Today these teams seem vulnerable enough. 3 months ago, no one thought MVP would make a deep run in any tourney outside of Korea. So yeah, given EHOME's current performance I don't see them going anywhere but up?

How in the world are NB vulnerable when they just stomped ECL with no practice and mu hungover? I do agree IG is a lot weaker right now especially since who the fuck knows what roster they are even playing with.


hah. Ok. Maybe NB are not vulnerable if you consider ECL results but even you'ld agree they don't seem all too concerned.. don't mind me if I don't think skill alone is enough to win DAC.

Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
January 27 2015 03:41 GMT
#25
On January 27 2015 12:37 ncsix wrote:
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On January 27 2015 12:23 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 12:01 ncsix wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:55 Thetwinmasters wrote:
On January 27 2015 11:46 ncsix wrote:
>>14. Rave 13. MVP 12. CDEC 11. HR 10. BG 9. EG 7/8. Tongfu+EHOME 5/6. IG/Secret 4. C9 3. VG 2. LGD 1. NB

Ehome will probably do better here. Mushi's team dedication will have some clever drafts that will push them into the top 3 position.

Think iG and Secret despite their star line-up won't perform as well, especially the latter given the chinese home advantage.

LGD has been consistently strong throughout recent tournaments, while VG is always a bit flaky, but they! Everyone on their team makes the most amazing plays, thats why I carry their flair.

NB meh.. hao do these guys win. Hope they don't go far.

U really think Inflame's drafting is going to make them beat ig/vg/lgd/nb?


Things move pretty fast in the Dota2 world, once NaVi and Alliance look all but invicible, as well as iG and NB. Today these teams seem vulnerable enough. 3 months ago, no one thought MVP would make a deep run in any tourney outside of Korea. So yeah, given EHOME's current performance I don't see them going anywhere but up?

How in the world are NB vulnerable when they just stomped ECL with no practice and mu hungover? I do agree IG is a lot weaker right now especially since who the fuck knows what roster they are even playing with.


hah. Ok. Maybe NB are not vulnerable if you consider ECL results but even you'ld agree they don't seem all too concerned.. don't mind me if I don't think skill alone is enough to win DAC.


I mean I highly doubt NB is just going to play more RPGs for a 2 Mill tourney cause even with TI winnings they still get a decent chunk
les
Profile Joined February 2010
143 Posts
January 27 2015 05:50 GMT
#26
SO hyped for this. Love the humouristic approach you took.
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
January 27 2015 08:05 GMT
#27
Newbee seems like top 2 for sure as this seems as their patch (full agression and teamfighting) with those strong cores in current meta (axe,jugg,troll). Hope we see naix from them as always .
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 08:16:33
January 27 2015 08:14 GMT
#28
Ehome preaty stronk yo atleast on paper! (ohaiyo one of best offlaners at this moment.)
Just their drafting feels subpar with those 4core strats :D.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 08:29:54
January 27 2015 08:29 GMT
#29
looking forward to another 2nd place c9 finish. the kong line will never die
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 27 2015 11:39 GMT
#30
On January 27 2015 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm expecting 1 western team to surprise and the other 2 to dissapoint but I'm unsure which team will surprise.

On other hand, there is a team that can probably both surprise and disappoint in the same time.
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
January 27 2015 21:05 GMT
#31
I'd put MVP a little higher, I think they can upset some of the lower Chinese squads and whichever Western team/teams that start choking. The top part of the rankings I definitely agree with though.
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kblueriver
Profile Joined July 2012
Argentina430 Posts
January 28 2015 02:38 GMT
#32
They already took the aegis of TI4, will they also take the rapier of DAC ?

Are you super smart with words, or is there an actual rapier?

Btw I like the list, but I'd put c9 one spot higher. Also, MUCH is going to depend on who faces who.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
January 28 2015 03:35 GMT
#33
On January 28 2015 11:38 kblueriver wrote:
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They already took the aegis of TI4, will they also take the rapier of DAC ?

Are you super smart with words, or is there an actual rapier?

Btw I like the list, but I'd put c9 one spot higher. Also, MUCH is going to depend on who faces who.

Idk if there will be an actual rapier .. It would be really cool if they did

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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
January 28 2015 04:05 GMT
#34
On January 28 2015 12:35 goody153 wrote:
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On January 28 2015 11:38 kblueriver wrote:
They already took the aegis of TI4, will they also take the rapier of DAC ?

Are you super smart with words, or is there an actual rapier?

Btw I like the list, but I'd put c9 one spot higher. Also, MUCH is going to depend on who faces who.

Idk if there will be an actual rapier .. It would be really cool if they did



correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the trophy a sword?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2015 08:15 GMT
#35
Its a radiance not a rapier unfortunately
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Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
January 28 2015 12:16 GMT
#36
shield of aegis and sword of radiance. Seems like Naga trophy 4 me :D.
Eyx
Profile Joined December 2010
England165 Posts
January 28 2015 12:37 GMT
#37
Really nice post, enjoy'd it and agree with most of it. Wish more people would post this or we'd get a TL one done. Really agree about BG where is 430 ? He really deserves a good team, any team he's in gets carried to doing ok just by having him in, last good team he had won TI. Common IG give 430 a good backup cast!
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 29 2015 13:37 GMT
#38
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And then Newbee was 0-2 losing to MVP and EG is 2-0... I seriously didn't expect this


Before the matches started I would have mostly agreed, I think TeamSecret is a little overrated but is still really good.
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Bakarat
Profile Joined December 2010
United States15 Posts
January 29 2015 17:55 GMT
#39
more like the western teams are underrated compared to the eastern
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 17:57:21
January 29 2015 17:56 GMT
#40
keep in mind group stages only matter to get top 8 or 12 really nothing else
and this was only day 1 so
don't draw too big conclusions lol there's a lot of dota left to play

newbee went like 6-9 in the TI4 groups lmao
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 18:02:21
January 29 2015 18:01 GMT
#41
it's still day 1 .. after seeing MLG colombus and TI4 .. i only trust the playoffs lol


tbh totally did not expect EG to destroy all 3 top chinese contenders convincingly
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Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
January 31 2015 07:04 GMT
#42
Newbee looking deserving of that no.1 ranking
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
January 31 2015 09:25 GMT
#43
Top 1 in the bottom
this is a quote
Bakarat
Profile Joined December 2010
United States15 Posts
February 01 2015 01:31 GMT
#44
people dont do their hw before actually posting things like this. It's just all the OP's opinion
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#45
Hey OP take heart...you got Secret pretty close on the money :D
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
February 02 2015 00:30 GMT
#46
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They won ECL without practice. The tournament is for 2 million dollars dude there is no way they are not practicing for the event. Honestly i don't think any of the teams have what it takes to beat them in their top condition(not even VG). The dual core Hao, Mu and the super-talented offlaner rabbit is likely gonna crush the competition and the hearts of the fans this DAC.

They already took the aegis of TI4, will they also take the rapier of DAC ?
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Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 23:45:47
February 02 2015 23:45 GMT
#47
Hindsight 20/20 etc.
Dobr1n
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria9 Posts
February 03 2015 09:20 GMT
#48
Even now, I think you did pretty good job. No1 expected Newbee to crash so hard. I only think that EG and C9 should swap places :p. GJ, dude
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 03 2015 11:41 GMT
#49
I'm pretty sure 99% of people had Newbee in their compendium predictions
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
February 03 2015 19:09 GMT
#50
On January 27 2015 11:08 RandyL wrote:
I'm glad you understand that your western bias exists and didn't let it HEAVILY influence your rankings, because let's face it, the west is at a HUGE disadvantage in this tournament.

yeah lets face it boys
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 04 2015 03:45 GMT
#51
to be fair, he got a 50/50 in the top 2 prediction )
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ohiooreo_0527
Profile Joined January 2015
13 Posts
February 04 2015 15:30 GMT
#52
way off dude nice
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#53
standings are far from final just yet
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
February 04 2015 18:36 GMT
#54
the fight still not over for me guys until the grand finals is over. .

maybe i'll get at least half of them right
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 04 2015 19:47 GMT
#55
At least you got one of the eliminated teams right.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-05 10:08:17
February 05 2015 10:08 GMT
#56
wrong thread
this is a quote
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
February 06 2015 00:25 GMT
#57
On January 27 2015 10:28 Caladbolg wrote:
s4 is better than Arteezy at mid. RTZ is a 1, sometimes playing as mid.

Yeah I don't agree with that at all. It is true RTZ plays the one role mid, but he is definitely better than s4 in 1v1 match ups.
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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
February 06 2015 00:26 GMT
#58
On February 04 2015 04:09 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 11:08 RandyL wrote:
I'm glad you understand that your western bias exists and didn't let it HEAVILY influence your rankings, because let's face it, the west is at a HUGE disadvantage in this tournament.

yeah lets face it boys

What even happened to the Chinese scene.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 06 2015 23:57 GMT
#59
Congrats for getting Tongfu and HellRaisers right
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
February 10 2015 02:16 GMT
#60
Hao can I be so terrible at predicting
this is a quote
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 11 2015 06:49 GMT
#61
You were wrong about Newbee practicing for this event!
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 11 2015 09:17 GMT
#62
Hey, you got 3/14 right. That's god for like, 30 compendium points or something.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 11 2015 15:17 GMT
#63
this is probably the best power rank ever
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