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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 08:05 GMT
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Think different. Don't follow the crowd. Be true to yourself. 4pool.



Hey there you fucking idiots, this is a fucking guide on how to do a special build that was invented by YellOw while he was fucking your mom. Befoer beginning this guide, I need to do little tiny disclaimer: I am a fucking expert in StarCraft and am really REALLY fucking good at the game and I win so much that it is ridiculous, so don't expect to pull this strat off as well as I do because you just fucking can't until your eapm is around 168 or higher. The purpose of this guide is to show you a unique and shitty strategy that cannot be countered if you are lucky. If you are not lucky, then you will just have to spend the rest of your life in Ireland looking for 4-leaf clover, while avoiding drunk lads who want to bash ya fuckin' 'ed in.

History:

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A long time ago, the spawning pool used to cost 150 minerals instead of 200 minerals so you could literally make a literal amount of literal zerglings before ur opponent could fukken make enough marines or whatever and the game was basically a load of fuck, but then some noobies complained on the forums so blizzzard nerfed zerg because it was too stronk. Later on, zerglings became popular again, thanks to Polish players and later, South Americans.

How Legit Is This Strat?

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Thanx for asking, and let me answer this way: JAEDONG BEAT FLASH WITH IT. rmbr that? I bet u don't cuz you're a sc2 fanboi who probably lives in ur mom's basement and she sincerely appreciates your company and loves you cuz you're part of the family and you make regular financial contributions to your family, but still, we will shame you with this because of reasons that may be related to giraffes.


Build Order?

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There is considerable debate within the Brood War community about the specifics and dynamics of the opening build order, primarily because there are so many individual variables at work, so the timings are kind of arbitrary. Try not to think of this build as 'set in stone', but more as a framework for your overall strategy. Whenever you being executing a build order, it should always be used to advance your objectives towards an overall victory, but more importantly, should be a guiding component in a larger game plan.

As Zerg, you start with a population of 4/9, which is 4 drones and 1 overlord. In many other build orders, you want to immediately start morphing your larvae into a drone at the onset of the game, but in build orders like 4pool and 4hatch, you will want to forgo this morph to save minerals. Do not build the initial drone or your build order will be mistimed and you will inevitably lose the game.

Build:

4/9 - Spawning Pool
3/9 - Drone
Spawning Pool finishes - Make Zerglings
7/9 - Make more Zerglings
8/9 - Make more Zerglings
9/9 - Micro your lings


As I've said before, these build times are kind of generalized, but the above order of operations has worked for me personally. I've had many arguments with my peers about the necessity of the 3/9 drone, some of which have ended years-long friendships because of how heated our debates became. My advice to you is to try it with drone and then with no drone and tell me what works, my way, or my dumbass friends' way.

This build often works because your opponents will attempt to make a lot of units, which will require them to expand as soon as possible, and they won't even make a defensive cannon at their ramp before expanding like a bunch of nerds. If you get scouted, just call your opponent a hacker and leave the game. They will probably deny hacking, but you have to stick to your guns and never admit you were wrong. Have an hour-long whisper war if you have to. + Show Spoiler +
You: fucking hacker lol

(you leave game)

kush[420]: wtf i dont hack noob

You: You hack 100% noob

kush[420]: lol?

You: Reported

kush[420]: lol i scouted at the normal time u fuckin pussy ur just mad cuz i scouted ur cheese

You: You are the one who should receive the connotation of 'pussy', as you feel the need to hack to win

kush[420]: w/e idiot

You: w/e hacker

kush[420]: lol 4pool noob

You: Silencia before I slap your mom across the ass

kush[420]: now ur talkin about my mom, what are u, 11? pathetic kid

You: I made a sexy love explosion on your mother's face.

kush[420]: I didn't know u were into nercophilia cuz my mom is dead

You: I know, I dug up her grave to defile her corpse

kush[420]: u are sick and are a stupid noob, go re?

You: LOL KID BEGGING FOR GAMES

kush[420]: Go again, or are u pussy? 4pool noob

You: Seriously, I will punch your cat in the face.

kush[420]: wtf... go re?

You: srry don't play hacker

kush[420]: lol u are such a retarded noob, i dont hack you moron

You: Prove it.

kush[420]: lol prove i hack first stupid, u can't becuz i dont hack

You: You definitely do, I backtraced your maphax. You dun goofed.

kush[420]: your too stupid to talk to, go re or no?

You: You need Jesus.

kush[420]: stop dodging, go re or no?

You: You're adopted; pwned.

kush[420]: yea ur 11

You: Your mom is 11

kush[420]: culd u for one second stop being retarded

You: EZ EZ EZ EZ EZ EZ EZ EZ EZ

kush[420]: u are so retarded

You: HOW DOES YOUR DAD'S COCK TASTE, YOU LITTLE FAGGOT?

kush[420]: u would no since u suck it every day

You: Good cum-back.

kush[420]: lol, ur funny kid

You: Thanks

kush[420]: i dont understand why u gotta do this

You: I was abused by my parents when I was little, so there is a lot of emotional hurt in my life.

kush[420]: im sorry to hear that but u are just being a faggot to ppl online randomly?

You: Don't call me a 'faggot' just because I am gay. That word hurts.

kush[420]: ok ok sorry, go re?

You: Why do you want to play me so bad?

kush[420]: To show you I'm not a hacker.

You: You'll just send the probe in the wrong direction just to pretend it's not hax

kush[420]: dude i dont hack i hate hackers

You: Then stop hacking if you hate hackers

kush[420]: if im a hacker why am i still d+?

You: Evidently, you're not very good even with hacks

kush[420]: so you could beat me if im not good, so go re?

You: I will if you tell me you love me.

kush[420]: ok i love you, now go re? weed/weed

You: Can we play on Grand Line? I'm sick of fs

kush[420]: i dont know that map

You: It's really easy to learn, it is good map ))))))

kush[420]: can we plz just play

You: Host Grand Line please

kush[420]: whats wrong with fs

You: I want Grand Line

kush[420]: u are so frustrating

You: I want ice cream

kush[420]: fine, weed/weed

You: gogogogo

kush[420]: u coming?

You: Yeah sorry, I had to wash my dog, he was soooooo dirty

kush[420]: lol im not sure whether to laugh or feel sorry but u are frustrating as hell

You: I would imagine that Hell, as a pit of eternal suffering, would definitely be frustrating

kush[420]: weed/weed join

You: ok

*joins game*

kush[420]: okay ready?

You: wait a second I need to put a hotpocket in the microwave

kush[420]: ...

You: brb

kush[420]: okay

kush[420]: 1a2a3a4a5a

kush[420]: 1a2a3a4a5a

kush[420]: 1a2a3a4a5a

kush[420]: how long are u going to be? i have class tmrw

You: Okay, I set my microwave for 90 minutes, so that bad boy should definitely explode.

kush[420]: go?

You: Did you know that the walrus has the largest penis of any animal proportionally?

kush[420]: omg will u stop and just go

You: You want me to stop or go?

kush[420]: GO

You: gogogo

*you leave game after 30 seconds*

kush[420]: wtf

You: I dropped from the game because my modem is overloaded by my yaoi torrents

kush[420]: re weed/weed

You: You don't want none of this.

kush[420]: omfg u are a waste of my time

You: Ya think?

user is not online.
It's all part of the real reason this build works: they have to assume you're going with not-4pool. If they see you're going 4pool, then they will counter you with stuff and also, things. This requires a good deal of guess-work on your part, but if you send your overlord out, you can rule out at least one enemy base and then just have to pick one of the remaining two and commit everything to attacking it. If nothing is there, where you attack, then you're probably going to lose unless your opponent is made of derp. If you find them on first try, then rally your single hatchery to their base and keep sending more lings. Keep killing stuff and attacking workers until they leave.

Conclusion

I sincerely hope this guide has helped you out immensely and that your winrate will go up a bit because of it. This guide took me the better part of the last 9 months to write, and it was a gargantuan effort that was bigger than Gargantua, who is a huge tarantula that fights Godzilla. I would like to give some shout-outs to the people who inspired me: Johny23, OctZerg, Jaedong, The_Templar, Lichter, catplanetcatplanet, [uon]sentinel, epishade, SirJolt, DepressedOne, Naejeon-X17, vi)blackdawn, SetGuitarsToKill, Boxerfred, Raven)CSLA, ThomasJServo, farvacola, CosmicSpiral, Shauni, QuanticHawk, fecalfeast, Shocker410, amazingxkcd, BLinD-RawR, BisuDagger, castleemg, art_of_turtle, artanis[xp], Chairman Ray, DarkPlasmaBall, DefMatrixUltra, DeepElemBlues, deathly rat, Djzapz, dravernor, FFW_Rude, FlaShFTW, Jaaaaasper, iway, jeeeeohn, GreenHorizons, JieXian, Munkie, LightningStrike, L_Master, MinscandBoo, MysteryMeat1, Nymphaceae, Onekobold, pebble444, Plexa, PUPATREE, puppykiller, SeAy, Shellshock, zombiegrub, Trozz, vOdtoast, [sc1f]eonzerg, Xiphos, unkkz, SamsungStar, Paljas, obesechicken13, QuickStriker, Jett.Jack.Alvir, Jerubaal, itsjustatank, icystorage, Sayle, hp.Shell, GMarshal, FFGenerations, GeckoXp, fabiano, EtherealDeath, epoxide, decemberscalm, Cr4zyH0r5e, Cele, Caihead, BigFan, AnachronisticAnarchy, Ahzz, Chill, Day[9], Tasteless, lilsusie, Arcania, darknethunter, dRaW, greenelve2, happybunnytime, ifu.pauline, FearTheQueen, Shotcoder, squishy, YuMe, LancerX, rev0lver, Sero, Mca64, sGs.FroZen, TheMarine, Scan, Hacklebeast, 2pacalyose-, Reclusive, SLeet, biolunar, Cryoc, Sync[gm], fold, gO)Silvos, Jeppe, Fry, Qikz, Radley, skzlime, Rlentless, TechnicS, Zaraki, Bakuryu, Sziky, JulyZerg, Stork, ZerO, Calm, Effort, Jangbi, Fantasy, Hyuk, Soulkey, BeSt, Snow, Pretty[gm], sSak, Larva[S.G], Sonic, Ret, Destiny, Mondragon, Nony, Yosh, fpsrussian, WarSame, Chamukoo, Mibu, Flossy, DualLancer, ifu.BMW, ifu.zergboy, Spx, dredredre, abaghusthecat, Ponera, Scarlett, Stephano, Huk, IdrA, ToT)Testie(, ToT)Paranoid(, Boxer, Tossgirl, HeuS, hazelynut, h00ligan, WhistlerR, etc.

****
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 17 2015 08:06 GMT
#2
he also beat fantasy with it
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:09:21
January 17 2015 08:07 GMT
#3
wow thanks for the shoutout. this guide is maybe just what i needed to take my zvt to the next level.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:08:45
January 17 2015 08:08 GMT
#4
no i'm talking about the fantasy that people actually care about

not you ⓢⓝⓞⓦⓕⓐⓝⓣⓐⓢⓨ !! :^)
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 08:10 GMT
#5
Also, shout-out to Gamegene.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:10:54
January 17 2015 08:10 GMT
#6
On January 17 2015 17:08 Gamegene wrote:
no i'm talking about the fantasy that people actually care about

not you ⓢⓝⓞⓦⓕⓐⓝⓣⓐⓢⓨ !! :^)

yes i know. did you not see the moderately sized list of shoutouts at the end of the guide?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 08:12 GMT
#7
On January 17 2015 17:10 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:08 Gamegene wrote:
no i'm talking about the fantasy that people actually care about

not you ⓢⓝⓞⓦⓕⓐⓝⓣⓐⓢⓨ !! :^)

yes i know. did you not see the moderately sized list of shoutouts at the end of the guide?


I think he saw "Fantasy" and thought you were replying 'sarcastically', but in reality, I mentioned you by a different name.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:13:57
January 17 2015 08:13 GMT
#8
On January 17 2015 17:12 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:10 SnowFantasy wrote:
On January 17 2015 17:08 Gamegene wrote:
no i'm talking about the fantasy that people actually care about

not you ⓢⓝⓞⓦⓕⓐⓝⓣⓐⓢⓨ !! :^)

yes i know. did you not see the moderately sized list of shoutouts at the end of the guide?


I think he saw "Fantasy" and thought you were replying 'sarcastically', but in reality, I mentioned you by a different name.

nah i think he thought i thought he was talking about me because my TL name is snowfantasy.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 17 2015 08:14 GMT
#9
note to self: use quote more when you're fast replying.

fucker :c
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:16:03
January 17 2015 08:15 GMT
#10
also, the 3/9 drone is super important. you can also make a drone and cancel it right at the start for maximum swag. this guide is however, very complete and an excellent post!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 08:15 GMT
#11
On January 17 2015 17:15 SnowFantasy wrote:
also, the 3/9 drone is super important. you can also make a drone and cancel it right at the start for maximum swag.


I don't think you should do that because abortion is murder. #ZergLivesMatter
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 17 2015 08:15 GMT
#12
What's you opinion on extrator-tricking for an extra pair of lings at 9/9?
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
January 17 2015 08:16 GMT
#13
On January 17 2015 17:15 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:15 SnowFantasy wrote:
also, the 3/9 drone is super important. you can also make a drone and cancel it right at the start for maximum swag.


I don't think you should do that because abortion is murder. #ZergLivesMatter

but jaedung did it. it must be good.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
January 17 2015 08:17 GMT
#14
On January 17 2015 17:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What's you opinion on extrator-tricking for an extra pair of lings at 9/9?

just pro-micro better and you won't need more lings.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 17 2015 08:20 GMT
#15
On January 17 2015 17:17 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What's you opinion on extrator-tricking for an extra pair of lings at 9/9?

just pro-micro better and you won't need more lings.


What if you're facing a four-pool?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 08:20 GMT
#16
On January 17 2015 17:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
What's you opinion on extrator-tricking for an extra pair of lings at 9/9?


You're going to need to focus heavily on your unit control, so I would recommend just making an overlord instead of wasting the ca$h.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 17 2015 09:29 GMT
#17
this was 1/3 of my strats in bw

the other 2 were 3hatch hydra and turtle into guardians

you can tell i wasnt very good at bw
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
January 17 2015 09:41 GMT
#18
For best results, consume a large glass of Protoss and/or Terran tears before each game.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 09:47 GMT
#19
On January 17 2015 18:29 lichter wrote:
this was 1/3 of my strats in bw

the other 2 were 3hatch hydra and turtle into guardians

you can tell i wasnt very good at bw


Turtling to Guardian is legit
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 17 2015 10:24 GMT
#20
That is a slightly padded list
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 17 2015 11:00 GMT
#21
On January 17 2015 18:47 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:29 lichter wrote:
this was 1/3 of my strats in bw

the other 2 were 3hatch hydra and turtle into guardians

you can tell i wasnt very good at bw


Turtling to Guardian is legit


Then you get rekt with Wraiths/Corsairs/Valkyries
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 17 2015 11:10 GMT
#22
Thanks for the shoutout Ninazerg!

I will definitely put the build to use
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9526 Posts
January 17 2015 11:37 GMT
#23
You misspelled my name. Guess I haven't inspired you enough!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 11:54 GMT
#24
On January 17 2015 20:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
You misspelled my name. Guess I haven't inspired you enough!


or maybe you misspelled your own name and I spelled it right
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9526 Posts
January 17 2015 12:06 GMT
#25
On January 17 2015 20:54 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 20:37 2Pacalypse- wrote:
You misspelled my name. Guess I haven't inspired you enough!


or maybe you misspelled your own name and I spelled it right

dammit, I don't know what's real anymore
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
January 17 2015 13:09 GMT
#26
The other day... I lost to a D- player with 46 eapm because I opened 4 pool and he opened 9 pool sunken colony.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18840 Posts
January 17 2015 14:05 GMT
#27
Glad I could play such an important role in the genesis of the wonderful OP.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 15:09:20
January 17 2015 15:08 GMT
#28
fuk u nina no shoutout I basically wrote this entire shitty guide

e: oh awkward
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castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada778 Posts
January 17 2015 15:42 GMT
#29
naejeon-x17 XDD oh god, shoutout to the koreans on fish server who create melee 1v1 games and do this build every time
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 16:21:54
January 17 2015 16:19 GMT
#30
dafuq did i just read?

i think a lot of zerglings got butthurt during the making of this (mis)guide

+ Show Spoiler +
i liked the graphics though
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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 17 2015 16:25 GMT
#31
Sick banner

A long time ago, the spawning pool used to cost 150 minerals instead of 200 minerals so you could literally make a literal amount of literal zerglings before ur opponent could fukken make enough marines or whatever and the game was basically a load of fuck, but then some noobies complained on the forums so blizzzard nerfed zerg because it was too stronk. Later on, zerglings became popular again, thanks to Polish players and later, South Americans.


Major luls

Also 5/5 for shoutout

Inspiring many generations of Zerg Players
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5597 Posts
January 17 2015 16:53 GMT
#32
Five stars, six Zerglings!
don't wall off against random
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 17 2015 17:09 GMT
#33
Obligatory Shauni shoutout there
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 17 2015 17:37 GMT
#34
haha, much love <3

I have exams going on currently, so I don't have much time/lust for brood war. But I did not forget anything of the holy oath I swore.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 17 2015 18:37 GMT
#35
haha yes! Good blog, 4 pool is supreme! :D Thanks for shoutout ^^
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 17 2015 18:42 GMT
#36
I'm so glad I could help insipre you, even though I've never even played brood war. If you can find a way to 4 pool in Sc2, let me know!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
January 17 2015 19:59 GMT
#37
Legit guide for a super old build.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 20:08 GMT
#38
On January 17 2015 22:09 puppykiller wrote:
The other day... I lost to a D- player with 46 eapm because I opened 4 pool and he opened 9 pool sunken colony.


The reason he made a creep is because he was an Ethan.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 20:09 GMT
#39
On January 18 2015 02:09 Skynx wrote:
Obligatory Shauni shoutout there


It's not obligatory, Shauni is awesome. I've actually talked to him on many occasions.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 20:12:46
January 17 2015 20:09 GMT
#40
I take it you never saw my old 4 and 5 pool in the professional scene thread from like 5 years ago.

It's actually a winning strategy in ZvP and ZvT but not ZvZ

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/111109-pro-4pool-and-5pool-collection
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LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 17 2015 20:36 GMT
#41
4 pool bots are doing surprisingly well in the SSCAI bot tournament (a 5 pool bot is currently 9th out of 42 bots) . So in AI vs AI this strat is also legit.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
January 17 2015 21:25 GMT
#42
I have fond memories of watching Incontrol defeat Idra in one game of bw at WCG USA finals 2009 or something.

Man, if I didn't make the shoutout list considering some of the people on it, I should be pretty embarrassed.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#43
If you're playing in a major tournament and want to add some swag build a drone at 4 and then cancel it. The audience will go crazy.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 17 2015 23:54 GMT
#44
On January 18 2015 06:25 micronesia wrote:
I have fond memories of watching Incontrol defeat Idra in one game of bw at WCG USA finals 2009 or something.

Man, if I didn't make the shoutout list considering some of the people on it, I should be pretty embarrassed.


I'm sorry, I should've shouted you out, but I had sooooo many people to remember
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
January 18 2015 00:29 GMT
#45
weed/weed
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 18 2015 00:55 GMT
#46
I am happy I got a shoutout!
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 18 2015 01:14 GMT
#47
Nice blog.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 01:23:54
January 18 2015 01:23 GMT
#48
On January 18 2015 09:29 N.geNuity wrote:
weed/weed


[image loading]

Didn't doctor this at all; was just a funny coincidence
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 18 2015 01:24 GMT
#49
On January 18 2015 10:23 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 09:29 N.geNuity wrote:
weed/weed


[image loading]

Didn't doctor this at all; was just a funny coincidence

#blazeit
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
January 18 2015 01:34 GMT
#50
On January 17 2015 19:24 ahswtini wrote:
That is a slightly padded list

I have missed this forum.

Also, awesome guide, I will have to try this out someday.

Relevant: very detailed and impressive tvz guide for blue storm.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 18 2015 02:19 GMT
#51
my favorite part of your stream is all the peruvians hitting on you in your chat nina, please stream more
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 18 2015 02:53 GMT
#52
You missed a catplanet.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 18 2015 05:34 GMT
#53
who the fuck is Shocker410
:/ i wanted a shoutout (i didnt do anything but still i want one)
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 18 2015 06:35 GMT
#54
On January 18 2015 14:34 Shock710 wrote:
who the fuck is Shocker410
:/ i wanted a shoutout (i didnt do anything but still i want one)

bahahahaha I died XD
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 06:49:17
January 18 2015 06:47 GMT
#55
I don't recall cheesing you nina

On January 18 2015 11:19 Endymion wrote:
my favorite part of your stream is all the peruvians hitting on you in your chat nina, please stream more


ahahahaha never saw that
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 18 2015 07:46 GMT
#56
On January 18 2015 14:34 Shock710 wrote:
who the fuck is Shocker410
:/ i wanted a shoutout (i didnt do anything but still i want one)


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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
January 18 2015 08:01 GMT
#57
nina, you forgot to shoutout to menace_man. You probably want to add him to the list because he will read the blog soon and be very angry and yell "asdfpoh8h98h" at you if he notices you didnt give him a shoutout.

He is also the innovator of such builds as 1 Hatch Hive zvt and 1 base 5 gate zealot pvp and I know you were inspired by him along the way.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 18 2015 08:08 GMT
#58
On January 18 2015 17:01 fearthequeen wrote:
nina, you forgot to shoutout to menace_man. You probably want to add him to the list because he will read the blog soon and be very angry and yell "asdfpoh8h98h" at you if he notices you didnt give him a shoutout.

He is also the innovator of such builds as 1 Hatch Hive zvt and 1 base 5 gate zealot pvp and I know you were inspired by him along the way.


I have no respect for him and if he wants to start talking shit, I will dismantle his soul piece by piece, but he isn't going to step the fuck up because he's a bitch. I will make him retire from the internet forever when I'm through with him. He don't want none. What.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 18 2015 08:23 GMT
#59
Yellow such a God giving us this strat.
Never Knows Best.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
January 18 2015 08:30 GMT
#60
wow bm I taught nina this strat and she never even shoutouted me
Jaedong and Killer do not approve.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10247 Posts
January 18 2015 09:21 GMT
#61
but flash also beat jaedong when jd went 4pool
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 18 2015 09:28 GMT
#62
On January 18 2015 18:21 FlaShFTW wrote:
but flash also beat jaedong when jd went 4pool


Shh...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBPrdX-cqF0

[image loading]

SHUT YA FUCKIN MOUF M8 OR I SWEAR ON ME MUM I'LL BASH YA 'ED IN
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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
January 18 2015 09:51 GMT
#63
On January 18 2015 17:08 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 17:01 fearthequeen wrote:
nina, you forgot to shoutout to menace_man. You probably want to add him to the list because he will read the blog soon and be very angry and yell "asdfpoh8h98h" at you if he notices you didnt give him a shoutout.

He is also the innovator of such builds as 1 Hatch Hive zvt and 1 base 5 gate zealot pvp and I know you were inspired by him along the way.


I have no respect for him and if he wants to start talking shit, I will dismantle his soul piece by piece, but he isn't going to step the fuck up because he's a bitch. I will make him retire from the internet forever when I'm through with him. He don't want none. What.

Just as i suspected. You've forgotten your roots.
NAKR`flying
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 18 2015 10:54 GMT
#64
That whisper war was so glorious and so realitstic lol.
Also 4 pool best pool
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 18 2015 11:00 GMT
#65
Can I 4 pool you ninazerg?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45135 Posts
January 18 2015 16:27 GMT
#66
On January 17 2015 19:24 ahswtini wrote:
That is a slightly padded list


I prefer the term "comprehensive", mainly because I'm on it.

4 pool definitely best pool.
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Biolunar
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany224 Posts
January 18 2015 16:56 GMT
#67
5/5 for Biolunar shout-out
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
January 18 2015 18:22 GMT
#68
Classic build order.
JulyZerg stomped Best with it.
Too fun to not do.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 18 2015 20:49 GMT
#69
Does this build work in Sc2 ???ß?

I need to become pro there and make some money, my mom wont let me move out of her apartment otherwise.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 18 2015 20:56 GMT
#70
On January 19 2015 05:49 Paljas wrote:
Does this build work in Sc2 ???ß?

I need to become pro there and make some money, my mom wont let me move out of her apartment otherwise.

Try 6 pool, it's inferior but it will catch most players off-guard.
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 18 2015 21:37 GMT
#71
On January 19 2015 05:49 Paljas wrote:
Does this build work in Sc2 ???ß?

I need to become pro there and make some money, my mom wont let me move out of her apartment otherwise.


yeah but you need to kill two of your drones and then build pool, it's the only way a broodwar player can even the playing fields for sc2 players =[
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 18 2015 23:25 GMT
#72
5 pool is much much better
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 19 2015 00:21 GMT
#73
5/5 would frontpage
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 19 2015 02:01 GMT
#74
On January 19 2015 09:21 Teoita wrote:
5/5 would frontpage


Don't do it, the world is not ready.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 02:36:17
January 19 2015 02:20 GMT
#75
You forgot to mention they key first step, surrender all self respect before attempting this build.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 19 2015 07:01 GMT
#76
Best guide of 2015 so far, much depth such strategy
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
January 19 2015 15:40 GMT
#77
4 Pool in SC2 is 6 Pool then two Drones build Extractors to free up supply for more Zerglings and less mineral income hence less of a need to focus on macro as you won't float minerals.
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 19 2015 18:01 GMT
#78
mind= blown. legit 5/5!
Broodwar for life!
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 19 2015 18:44 GMT
#79
On January 19 2015 11:20 Jaaaaasper wrote:
You forgot to mention they key first step, surrender all self respect before attempting this build.

you mean wait for 2 min then set lat to extra high and say "¿!ajaja noob fker LAG ANTI GAMER!?"
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 19 2015 21:07 GMT
#80
On January 19 2015 11:01 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2015 09:21 Teoita wrote:
5/5 would frontpage


Don't do it, the world is not ready.


Eh, i think i've unleashed worse things on the ladder
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 00:51:37
January 20 2015 00:47 GMT
#81
God stop pedaling your outdated scrubs builds, 4p simply isn't viable in today's macro oriented map pool. If you're not a complete fucking scrub idiot moron, you'll opt for the much stronger macro oriented 5 pool. It takes some mechanics to pull off so if you're trying to jerk off and simultaneously lose games stick to nina dinosaur build.

Guide to 5 pool:
1. Select all your drones and send them to the closest patch, then try and split them but fuck up miserably and delay mining.
2. Build a fifth drone.
3. Jaedong micro's his drones somehow to make them mine faster, no one knows how he does this but click spastically on your drones and pretend you're helping and not further delaying mining.
4. Group your larva to an overlord to make them move to the same of the hatch. Not that this matters but it is fucking sweet and everyone will know you're a baller with a huge dick.
5. Build the spawning pool adjacent to your hatch so you can drone drill which will definitely be relevant and win you games at some point in your life. Make sure your first attempt is blocked by larva further delaying your build.
6. Build zerglings or "lings", be sure to extractor trick.
7. Listen to your heart, leave your body and watch yourself from afar.
8. Leverage your superior 5 drone economy for the ez victory
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
January 20 2015 01:16 GMT
#82
^ ROFL
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Sleet
Profile Joined January 2011
United States139 Posts
January 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#83
This build so strong! Thanks for shoutout nina <3
@SLeetscgames
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
January 28 2015 03:13 GMT
#84
awesome
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
February 04 2015 08:48 GMT
#85
"You: Seriously, I will punch your cat in the face."

I don't why, but I can't stop LOL'ing over that line. And I like cats.

User was warned for being hilarious
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-04 13:29:52
February 04 2015 12:06 GMT
#86
1/5 because you put my name after Boxerfred's.

Also there is something missing in your guide.

It's incomplete.

4/9 - Spawning Pool
3/9 - Drone
Spawning Pool finishes - Make Zerglings
7/9 - Make more Zerglings
8/9 - Make more Zerglings
9/9 - Press enter, then "from ?" then enter
9/9 - Micro your lings

Also if one day you decide to follow a player in SC2. try to find "ActionJesuz" run at Dreamhack. He used your build.... for each match.

EDIT : found this
+ Show Spoiler +

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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
February 07 2015 14:11 GMT
#87
On January 17 2015 17:05 ninazerg wrote:
Hey there you fucking idiots, this is a fucking guide on how to do a special build that was invented by YellOw while he was fucking your mom.

I would think YellOw would be a great lover for anyone's Mom, as he always finishes second.


User was warned for being hilarious
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 11 2015 03:29 GMT
#88
4 gas 3 pool is way more viable
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 11 2015 03:54 GMT
#89
On February 11 2015 12:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
4 gas 3 pool is way more viable


Where the fuck have you been?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 11 2015 04:28 GMT
#90
On February 11 2015 12:54 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 12:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
4 gas 3 pool is way more viable


Where the fuck have you been?

Trust me I lost to it once it works
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50596 Posts
February 11 2015 04:51 GMT
#91
4/9, would read again!

yay shoutout!
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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
April 30 2015 05:38 GMT
#92
I know this is a semi-old thread but, Koreans on fish have a very strong counter to 4 pool + Show Spoiler +
disconnect
so i would advise against using it there.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
October 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#93
On January 17 2015 17:05 ninazerg wrote:
JAEDONG BEAT FLASH WITH IT. rmbr that?


I lost to that today, that's how bad I am. Found this gem of a guide-thread here though, so it was worth it.

And maybe some more people want to watch progames involving 4pools now:

LINK
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
April 21 2016 21:47 GMT
#94
I just stumbled onto your blog. Also this is sooo worth bumping.
Thank you for the shout out!

Here's a video of me getting 4 pooled from when I played in the D ranks league
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
April 22 2016 13:11 GMT
#95
On April 22 2016 06:47 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
I just stumbled onto your blog. Also this is sooo worth bumping.
Thank you for the shout out!

Here's a video of me getting 4 pooled from when I played in the D ranks league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=penqcr7_lHI

nice dude, but cmon i see where you're from just set lat to extra high and gg early ez game
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 23 2016 12:33 GMT
#96
Oh sick Ninazerg gave me a shoutout a year ago
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