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[Battle Report] Warcraft: Orc and Humans

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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
January 04 2015 23:19 GMT
#1
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going full retro here... holy shit RTS have come a long way since the early 90s. after watching the amazing cinematic intro i jumped in to the first campaing Orcs.
First i had to build some farms and grunts to defend... sound easy but the controls were so limited if we compare it to what we have now... obviously

- you cant scroll the screen with your mouse, first you need to select the move or attack comand and then scroll.

- no right click actions, just the old selec unit, select action, right click

- 4 units groups

- you cant make a box with your mouse and select the units, need to shift click each unit to make your group

some things i didnt expect were:

- range units have more speed than melee (spearman is faster that the grunt), so you can hit and run
- upgrades!
- i still can make another town hall maybe because im playing campaing :s

ok, coming back to the missions. the 2nd was to kill Griselda, and orc princess thar run away with Turoc. Her own father ordered that she must be killed so i must obey. while entering the cave i saw this unit...

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the Raider was originally from WC1 omg! this show that Blizz can bring units from the past! come on give us the reaver Blizz.
After exploring all the map i also got some "necro-something" that can raise skeletons. after a close fight i completed the mission with my last 2 spearmans using some sick micro vs some ogres.

Now that i showd my skill to the Orcs warchief i was ordered to kill some humans....finally! and i was sent to the battle fields. things didnt go that well, the first fight i was crushed

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damn humans were using Clerics (like wc3 priests) that can heal a lot of HP. almost OP as fuck. Finally after training more units and moving all toguether i could ambush their peons and do some critical damage destroying the barracks.

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Seeing that humans were using magic i was ordered to capture a tower that had that information. i started doing some macro making my peons and harvesting gold and lumber. i also explored the space nearby to see where i needed some defenses but i was ambush by the human army, i barely survived

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after receiving a lot of damage i thought that i would have some time to recover but my greed was my death, a second attack with knights and scorpions destroyed the last of my army, my peons runned without attacking, all was lost

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i barely scaped and im begging a 2nd chance to capture that tower to the chief T_T

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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 05 2015 01:07 GMT
#2
I always wondered why people would still play OVH when WC2 is out. Such better graphix.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 05 2015 02:29 GMT
#3
Nice BR. I never played Warcraft I aside from the demo so I could recognize some units/a building or two there but that's it lol.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 08:39:09
January 05 2015 08:39 GMT
#4
I remember this game.Daemons roflstomp everything.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
January 05 2015 08:58 GMT
#5
dont think i ever played WC1...WC2 was amazing though...pretty awesome topin!
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11363 Posts
January 05 2015 09:29 GMT
#6
I play WC2 for pure nostalgia. I play WC1. . .because I hate myself?
The first time I played it was with a touchpad

But even with a mouse, no mouse boxing, no unit hotkeys? (I can't remember) and no left-click select, right-click move. . . moving your armies around is brutal. My best strategy was to slowly advance my main army with knights in the front and tons of archers in the back and clerics behind that for the heals. And then when I've got them all lined up, I send one knight forward to lure the the computer back into my line. Because it's almost impossible to adjust your troops on the fly and you certainly can't bring your army IN to attack because the first die too quickly by the time you've selected and ordered the second group.

When people say UI gets in the way of gameplay THIS is what I think of. This is like a rattle-trap with a steam engine, warcraft 2 is like a Model T, and Starcraft BW is like tricked out race-car with manual-shifting and a couple weird hiccups.
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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 10:13:09
January 05 2015 10:11 GMT
#7
It's been a long time since I played WC1 but I'm pretty sure you can select units with a box by holding ctrl und left-click while dragging your mouse. You can also scroll without an active order by clicking on the screen border. Ctrl+# didn't exist back then I think but Alt groups existed if I remember correctly. So the controls were not too bad.
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nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 05 2015 22:13 GMT
#8
On January 05 2015 18:29 Falling wrote:
I play WC2 for pure nostalgia. I play WC1. . .because I hate myself?
The first time I played it was with a touchpad

But even with a mouse, no mouse boxing, no unit hotkeys? (I can't remember) and no left-click select, right-click move. . . moving your armies around is brutal. My best strategy was to slowly advance my main army with knights in the front and tons of archers in the back and clerics behind that for the heals. And then when I've got them all lined up, I send one knight forward to lure the the computer back into my line. Because it's almost impossible to adjust your troops on the fly and you certainly can't bring your army IN to attack because the first die too quickly by the time you've selected and ordered the second group.



That and Daemons/Waterelementals. Skeletons, scorpions and spiders are good too, but in later levels they die very quickly.

On January 05 2015 18:29 Falling wrote:
When people say UI gets in the way of gameplay THIS is what I think of. This is like a rattle-trap with a steam engine, warcraft 2 is like a Model T, and Starcraft BW is like tricked out race-car with manual-shifting and a couple weird hiccups.


Try dune 2 :p There you've got to order units to return fire sometimes //
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 12:45:47
January 06 2015 12:45 GMT
#9
I loved wc1 :D i played it online multiplayer too. If both players agree to skip daemons and waterelements it can be a fun game.

It's been a long time since I played WC1 but I'm pretty sure you can select units with a box by holding ctrl und left-click while dragging your mouse. You can also scroll without an active order by clicking on the screen border.


Exactly. You can select up to 4 units.
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 10:19:42
January 08 2015 10:18 GMT
#10
I found this game based on the stratagus engine:
Wyrmsun
Looks like a mix between wc2 and wc1.

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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
January 09 2015 18:07 GMT
#11
Back when WOL beta ended and everyone was waiting for release, I was streaming this game and had a bunch of people watching and LOLING at how hard the game is because of the UI
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