• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:35
CEST 03:35
KST 10:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1518 users

Need help

Blogs > TheMipe
Post a Reply
TheMipe
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Portugal4 Posts
December 31 2014 17:19 GMT
#1
Hi guys, i don't know if i should post like this here, if it is wrong then I'm sorry.

As the title says I need some help in SC2, just got the game this christmas and I'm trying to get into ladder play, but i've got some problems. I have seen a lot of streams and I understand what the streamers says and the reason behind the majority of their actions but when I try to play it myself I just get lost.

I'm mainly playing terran now since is the race that I understand the most, but I can't keep up when I'm playing. For example: at the begginning i do normally like building scvs, then supply deppot at 10 and barracks, but from there sometimes i just get lost. I don't know how many marines to build, or when to get the factory. I've seen some builds that are noob friendly but still can't get them, sometimes I just randomly waste my minerals and build a bunch of barracks, but then i realize that I haven't expanded at 15 min for example.

Just asking for some help and how can I get over this because it's a bit frustrating. I like the game but after me playing it, i'm starting to regret that i've got it.

*
welp, wut now
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 31 2014 17:28 GMT
#2
OP, at lower leagues specific build orders are not very important. There are two basic things that matter

1. Spend you money while keeping your economy up (workers and expansions)
2. Basic unit compositions

I'm a gold league zerg players, and I don't play with any real build orders. You can get that far by simply learning to macro. All it takes is some practice.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheMipe
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Portugal4 Posts
December 31 2014 17:36 GMT
#3
Yeah, my problem is that I panic while building things, like when I build 3 barracks I think to myself 'Oh Man, should I be doing this?', and then I start to build and I think again 'Crap I shouldn't have built that, i need a factory and then a starport'. sometimes is when I build a engineering bay but never get my upgrades.

Another thing is that i don't know how I should Hotkey the things, I don't know if I'm supposed to have all Comand Centers in one key or should i have different for others, or barracks and factory should be together or even if I should hotkey the engineering bay. There are some basic controls that I don't know.
welp, wut now
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 17:50:13
December 31 2014 17:49 GMT
#4
Generally it's best to have all CCs on one hotkey. After that it's a lot of personal preference.

And, as a new player, don't worry to hard about doing what's "right". At low levels, as long as you keep a balance of units and workers, it matters very little what specific units you build.

Look up some basic beginners guides, there are some here on TL and some on youtube.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
December 31 2014 18:59 GMT
#5
Pretty much what SGTK said. I was in bronze for a long time and the big thing that helped me was making more workers.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
TheMipe
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Portugal4 Posts
December 31 2014 19:06 GMT
#6
I went and played a few ranked games in this little time and I just lost every game, at the beginning i just thought 'ok, i'm getting matched against guys who are better than me, it will balance out and i'll have more balanced games' but then i just got crushed in every single on of them. I got placed in silver after the promotion matches and i checked if there was anyone in my position too like 0 wins and 8 losses, or something like that, but i didn't find anyone.

I've read a lot of times that i should just play ladder and get experience but the only thing that i learn is that everytime my opponnent enganges on me i lose or if i engage on him i'll lose too. Never won a fight. i keep on building constant units but i just get dumped on.

Is there any step to play that i'm skipping to start ladder play? I'm sorry for being such an annoying person.
welp, wut now
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 31 2014 19:51 GMT
#7
If you've played the campaign and done the training, the only thing I can say is maybe practice against AI. And you're not annoying, everyone was new at one point
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheMipe
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Portugal4 Posts
December 31 2014 20:31 GMT
#8
Well against the AI I can't beat the 2nd harder level (when the difficulty bar is on the second half of the hard to the next level). What difficulty do i need to beat to start playing against players?
welp, wut now
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 31 2014 20:46 GMT
#9
I really don't know, I never play against hte AI anymore. Sorry bro.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17410 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 22:46:22
December 31 2014 22:35 GMT
#10
The Ladder on Wings Of Liberty is a lot easier than the Ladder on Heart of the Swarm.

Try playing some Wings of Liberty ladder games before moving on to Heart of the Swarm.

The basic fundamentals of multiplayer success are identical in both games.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 201
RuFF_SC2 169
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 77
NaDa 29
Dota 2
monkeys_forever313
capcasts157
LuMiX1
League of Legends
tarik_tv2336
JimRising 782
Counter-Strike
minikerr5
Other Games
summit1g9550
shahzam396
ViBE111
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1244
BasetradeTV45
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 94
• davetesta42
• Sammyuel 13
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21551
League of Legends
• Doublelift4650
Other Games
• Scarra2232
• imaqtpie769
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
5h 25m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12h 25m
BSL
17h 25m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.