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PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
September 30 2014 16:42 GMT
#1
Hi guys,

I was really interested in using the ladder rankings for a scientific study as I am really keen on the psychological consequences of playing Starcraft. I am aware of http://www.sc2ranks.com/ but I feel that it does not update that quickly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 30 2014 16:45 GMT
#2
nios.kr is a great site for Starcraft 2 rankings.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
September 30 2014 17:01 GMT
#3
Wow thank you for your help man. This is really helpful! Does anyone know what ACHV mean??
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4968 Posts
September 30 2014 17:40 GMT
#4
Those are the achievement points that are also displayed ingame
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PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
September 30 2014 17:53 GMT
#5
Thank your FO-nTTax.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 30 2014 19:05 GMT
#6
On October 01 2014 01:42 PickyProtoss wrote:
psychological consequences of playing Starcraft


It sounds like you're already biased if you're already jumping to the conclusion that there are consequences. What about the consequences of playing LoL? That game has destroyed so many lives, and now Jumper is homeless. What about the consequences of drinking expired milk? What about the consequences of playing The Sims 3: Pets?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
September 30 2014 20:58 GMT
#7
Have you ever heard of the hypothetico deductive method of scientific inquiry? In addition, to suggest that a scientific study can in fact be unbiased is non-sense.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 30 2014 22:30 GMT
#8
Now, I'm not a scientist like yourself, but I have read enough to know that you need to form a hypothesis to be subjected to data. But that's not important at the moment. I'm talking about bias. Particularly, confirmation bias. If you are attempting to "prove" that SC2 is harmful or non-harmful in regards to psychological consequences, you have to take into account the many variables involved. For example, if you're studying a subject who plays SC2, you might ask yourself questions, such as: Where do he/she live? What kind of social environment was the subject raised in? What sort of socio-economic conditions are present in the subject's life? Does the subject show above-average intelligence or below-average intelligence on logic-based tests? What kind of emotional responses does the subject display when exposed to various kinds of stimuli?

And so on.

The outstanding factors, such as the person's life outside of SC2, their personality, mental development, health history, social background all may play very important roles in making a determination about their psychological disposition. I think your subject pool will either not be examined properly, or be too small, and the statistics produced could lead to an unfounded conclusion.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
October 01 2014 02:30 GMT
#9
It sounds like it could be interesting, please share whatever results/findings you're happy to share.

I keep seeing Ireland beside ppls names on TL, never knew there were so many of us here, I know of at least 100 that stopped playing SC2 though .

Also, I don't know if these would be of any use to you what so ever, but on the off chance they're useful and you weren't aware of them, "useful links":

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0070350

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/12/01/how-a-computer-game-is-reinventing-the-science-of-expertise-video/

Good luck!
PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 11:11:02
October 01 2014 11:08 GMT
#10
"I think your subject pool will either not be examined properly, or be too small, and the statistics produced could lead to an unfounded conclusion."

What do you base this assumption on? Your crystal ball? Sounds like you are in fact biased. Have you tried to examine a phenomena before and you are jelly? What is the statistical power of the study? Considering my sample will not be large enough? You do not even know what I want to study, or what are the accepted practices for publication within the journals I would be prospectively submitting. Nevertheless, I feel my words will fall on deaf ears (or eyes in this case), please return to underneath your bridge Nina. Why do you spend your day trolling TL? Your meaning in life is arbitrarily trolling others, I guess that makes your life pretty arbitrary!
PickyProtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Ireland74 Posts
October 01 2014 11:10 GMT
#11
@Paddyz thanks man these journals are a big help. I will for sure help, trying to iron out a few of the loose ends but my colleague and I are interested.

I do not live in Ireland anymore I work in uni outside Paris. I know never really heard of anyone playing SC2 in Ireland.
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