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PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

September 30 2014 16:42 GMT

Hi guys,

I was really interested in using the ladder rankings for a scientific study as I am really keen on the psychological consequences of playing Starcraft. I am aware of http://www.sc2ranks.com/ but I feel that it does not update that quickly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

vult

United States9400 Posts

September 30 2014 16:45 GMT

nios.kr is a great site for Starcraft 2 rankings.

PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

September 30 2014 17:01 GMT

Wow thank you for your help man. This is really helpful! Does anyone know what ACHV mean??

FO-nTTaX

Johto4999 Posts

September 30 2014 17:40 GMT

Those are the achievement points that are also displayed ingame

PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

September 30 2014 17:53 GMT

Thank your FO-nTTax.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

September 30 2014 19:05 GMT

On October 01 2014 01:42 PickyProtoss wrote:
psychological consequences of playing Starcraft

It sounds like you're already biased if you're already jumping to the conclusion that there are consequences. What about the consequences of playing LoL? That game has destroyed so many lives, and now Jumper is homeless. What about the consequences of drinking expired milk? What about the consequences of playing The Sims 3: Pets?

PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

September 30 2014 20:58 GMT

Have you ever heard of the hypothetico deductive method of scientific inquiry? In addition, to suggest that a scientific study can in fact be unbiased is non-sense.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

September 30 2014 22:30 GMT

Now, I'm not a scientist like yourself, but I have read enough to know that you need to form a hypothesis to be subjected to data. But that's not important at the moment. I'm talking about bias. Particularly, confirmation bias. If you are attempting to "prove" that SC2 is harmful or non-harmful in regards to psychological consequences, you have to take into account the many variables involved. For example, if you're studying a subject who plays SC2, you might ask yourself questions, such as: Where do he/she live? What kind of social environment was the subject raised in? What sort of socio-economic conditions are present in the subject's life? Does the subject show above-average intelligence or below-average intelligence on logic-based tests? What kind of emotional responses does the subject display when exposed to various kinds of stimuli?

And so on.

The outstanding factors, such as the person's life outside of SC2, their personality, mental development, health history, social background all may play very important roles in making a determination about their psychological disposition. I think your subject pool will either not be examined properly, or be too small, and the statistics produced could lead to an unfounded conclusion.

paddyz

Ireland628 Posts

October 01 2014 02:30 GMT

It sounds like it could be interesting, please share whatever results/findings you're happy to share.

I keep seeing Ireland beside ppls names on TL, never knew there were so many of us here, I know of at least 100 that stopped playing SC2 though

.

Also, I don't know if these would be of any use to you what so ever, but on the off chance they're useful and you weren't aware of them, "useful links":

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0070350

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/12/01/how-a-computer-game-is-reinventing-the-science-of-expertise-video/

Good luck!

PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

October 01 2014 11:08 GMT

#10

"I think your subject pool will either not be examined properly, or be too small, and the statistics produced could lead to an unfounded conclusion."

What do you base this assumption on? Your crystal ball? Sounds like you are in fact biased. Have you tried to examine a phenomena before and you are jelly? What is the statistical power of the study? Considering my sample will not be large enough? You do not even know what I want to study, or what are the accepted practices for publication within the journals I would be prospectively submitting. Nevertheless, I feel my words will fall on deaf ears (or eyes in this case), please return to underneath your bridge Nina. Why do you spend your day trolling TL? Your meaning in life is arbitrarily trolling others, I guess that makes your life pretty arbitrary!

PickyProtoss

Ireland74 Posts

October 01 2014 11:10 GMT

#11

@Paddyz thanks man these journals are a big help. I will for sure help, trying to iron out a few of the loose ends but my colleague and I are interested.

I do not live in Ireland anymore I work in uni outside Paris. I know never really heard of anyone playing SC2 in Ireland.

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