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Sharing some thoughts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/450319-sharing-some-thoughts | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
nice for the update nazgul, thanks | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'm on to you. On Topic: As somebody else important mentioned (I forget who), it essentially boiled down to "Our site wasn't growing as much as we want, so this is our chosen course of action to stimulate growth based on our beliefs as to why it hasn't been growing". Which is of course completely reasonable and as Nazgul said the people who complain are already regulars and unlikely to simply end their participation in a community whereas the people who benefit the most are the yet-to-be-users. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On May 13 2014 00:16 Sn0_Man wrote: The real reason Nazgul split off LiquidDota is clearly so that he can have a bloodseeker Icon without giving up his Nazgul head icon on the SC2 forums. I'm on to you. On Topic: As somebody else important mentioned (I forget who), it essentially boiled down to "Our site wasn't growing as much as we want, so this is our chosen course of action to stimulate growth based on our beliefs as to why it hasn't been growing". Which is of course completely reasonable and as Nazgul said the people who complain are already regulars and unlikely to simply end their participation in a community whereas the people who benefit the most are the yet-to-be-users. Fair points all around. But mainly the Bloodseeker one. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I'd be curious to hear a comparison of the success of LiquidDota vs LiquidHearth though, maybe after a few days? | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Eyx
England165 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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syst
United States247 Posts
I DID use the filters and my news page and stream list were completely Dota 2 related for a long time before this split. I already kind of felt as if I was on Liquiddota.com. Now the stream list is now even better, more focused on what I enjoy. Hopefully now the user population can increase a little bit due to this split (that is supposed to benefit the quieter, new users). Hopefully we'll get more in depth guides here. Hopefully we get those content creators that do amazing write ups like we had for Brood War back in the day (and still do have). We need those people to make the Dota content on this network be on par with the content created on teamliquid in the past. It hasn't really happened yet, and the staff are trying with this move to IMPROVE everyone's Dota experience. I, for one, have a lot of faith in the staff here to create an environment that fosters good content and interesting debate. I look forward to seeing where this goes! (I also want the forums to be strongly linked with the rest of the network!) | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
I'd made the suggestion in another thread on TL. But even only showing sections like General here on LD when logged in and adding those specific sections through filtering would be amazing. Newer users would never see them so they don't get daunted. Only those who specifically wanted to use LD and pull in certain TL forum sections would see them. It keeps the 2 sites separate while allowing the veteran users access to the threads and sections they've followed and contributed to on one site. Other than the fact that some of those major forum sections that made TL feel alive are missing I do like the look and feel of the site overall better than TL. The right sidebar is a massive upgrade, it's a little more clean and colorful looking here, the favorite team logos are cooler, etc. Just those missing forums make me cry. Edit: As I said before over on TL. I don't even know if this suggestion is even possible, you'd have to ask R1CH. But it's sort of a best of both worlds idea. Keeps things out of sight, out of mind for new visitors but gives us who have been here a while and miss TL threads the option of seeing them from 1 hub. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The site is nice and I like the side bars. You still have my Esports dollars. | ||
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Diaresta
United States597 Posts
The new site looks great! I'm really liking the team flares, and I can't wait to see TL's Dota site grow! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 13 2014 13:10 Diaresta wrote: Initially, I wasn't too crazy about the General sub-forums not getting linked, but I don't think it's that big of a deal jumping between TL SC and Dota. The biggest problem with having separate, unlinked general subforums isn't a matter of convenience, it's that it then becomes possible for seperate, unrelated community discussions to arise in LiquidDota. This could be seen as a good thing, but it becomes exceedingly hard for participants on both sides to manage, because how the hell do you keep track of like LD GoT thread vs. TL GoT thread--particularly when there's partial but not complete overlap between the communities? How do you keep track of who said what where, etc? The end result then becomes people will just end up choosing only one of them because it becomes too hard to manage two discussions about the same thing, which therefore leads to fragmenting of the community. | ||
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
When you split off Hearthstone I didn't care, because I had no interest in the game. But now I definitely feel this site is separated from the TL community and I struggle to see why TL itself cannot be some metasite with the different portals directly connected, other than the technical challenge it is. It's certainly much easier to do it this way, but I'm not really a fan | ||
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Ringall
Finland177 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
 E: oops didn't realize what thread this is in I suppose you weren't quite asking in the general manner that I answered | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On May 14 2014 05:22 Slardar wrote: So what's going on at the original TL? LoL was moved to Other Games now has it's tab back. Running into some issues with customization. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On May 13 2014 19:48 TheYango wrote: The biggest problem with having separate, unlinked general subforums isn't a matter of convenience, it's that it then becomes possible for seperate, unrelated community discussions to arise in LiquidDota. This could be seen as a good thing, but it becomes exceedingly hard for participants on both sides to manage, because how the hell do you keep track of like LD GoT thread vs. TL GoT thread--particularly when there's partial but not complete overlap between the communities? How do you keep track of who said what where, etc? The end result then becomes people will just end up choosing only one of them because it becomes too hard to manage two discussions about the same thing, which therefore leads to fragmenting of the community. ya and we won't benefit from the overall higher IQ and deeper discussion of the SC2 community. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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I always thought of TL as a "special home" mostly because the site happened to support both the games I share interest with and also for it's ability to attract like minded people. I also believe TL's move to support DotA alongside Starcraft help attribute the fact that people that came from an exclusive Starcraft background went on to try and love DotA as well. I didn't bother to look back at it but I do remember when TL.net began supporting DotA, it came with a statement that was made very clear that supporting the game just felt "right". That stuck with me personally because looking back at it retrospect, I completely agreed that adding DotA to the TL.net just felt natural to me. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On May 13 2014 00:05 Steveling wrote: Thanks mate. I mean meat. | ||
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MrSandman
Australia188 Posts
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
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SnowStormer
Norway275 Posts
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