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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 12 2014 14:52 GMT
#1
I wrote a blog on TL about why we created LiquidDota. Unfortunately we don't have shared forums (lol the irony) so I'm just posting here to let you know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/450319-sharing-some-thoughts
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 12 2014 15:05 GMT
#2
Thanks mate.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 12 2014 15:10 GMT
#3
lol

nice for the update nazgul, thanks
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 12 2014 15:16 GMT
#4
The real reason Nazgul split off LiquidDota is clearly so that he can have a bloodseeker Icon without giving up his Nazgul head icon on the SC2 forums.

I'm on to you.

On Topic: As somebody else important mentioned (I forget who), it essentially boiled down to "Our site wasn't growing as much as we want, so this is our chosen course of action to stimulate growth based on our beliefs as to why it hasn't been growing". Which is of course completely reasonable and as Nazgul said the people who complain are already regulars and unlikely to simply end their participation in a community whereas the people who benefit the most are the yet-to-be-users.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 15:34:08
May 12 2014 15:33 GMT
#5
On May 13 2014 00:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
The real reason Nazgul split off LiquidDota is clearly so that he can have a bloodseeker Icon without giving up his Nazgul head icon on the SC2 forums.

I'm on to you.

On Topic: As somebody else important mentioned (I forget who), it essentially boiled down to "Our site wasn't growing as much as we want, so this is our chosen course of action to stimulate growth based on our beliefs as to why it hasn't been growing". Which is of course completely reasonable and as Nazgul said the people who complain are already regulars and unlikely to simply end their participation in a community whereas the people who benefit the most are the yet-to-be-users.

Fair points all around. But mainly the Bloodseeker one.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37034 Posts
May 12 2014 15:39 GMT
#6
This site looks so sick. I appreciate all the hard work you put in so that this site could be born. Thank you Nazgul.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
May 12 2014 15:49 GMT
#7
I share similar sentiments. I appreciate all the hard work you guys and this certainly helps with the idea of growing the Dota section. It does need some minor changes, but overall I love it so far. Looks good and can't wait to see what comes of this.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 12 2014 16:14 GMT
#8
I suppose I should also mention that I *love* the shared-community-forums plan. It really helps indicate to the community that you want this to be "Dota getting it's own site" (good thing) as opposed to "TL getting rid of Dota" (what I felt happened with Hearthstone).

I'd be curious to hear a comparison of the success of LiquidDota vs LiquidHearth though, maybe after a few days?
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#9
Thanks for making the shared community forums a priority.
Eyx
Profile Joined December 2010
England165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 16:32:49
May 12 2014 16:31 GMT
#10
I think this post highlights a need for check boxes for all liquid sites when you post a blog. Would be great if you could post it to more than one liquid site if it is relent to more than one or a community area kind of blog. Would be great if the whole blog could be shared with replies too.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 12 2014 17:48 GMT
#11
well good news boss, i am already get used to this new layout lol. just need to keep 2 tabs open i guess >_>
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 12 2014 18:14 GMT
#12
I bet you randomed that bloodseeker icon.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
May 12 2014 19:15 GMT
#13
If the community sections can be integrated from TL.net I'll be really happy. I know it isn't an easy task, but I think that is something that a lot of people are upset about.
syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 20:07:47
May 12 2014 20:07 GMT
#14
I'm a long time user and I've played all three games extensively, though never did I play any of the games simultaneously. Personally, I'm happy that the staff took the time to look at the user experience of those people who are lurkers (I can relate).

I DID use the filters and my news page and stream list were completely Dota 2 related for a long time before this split. I already kind of felt as if I was on Liquiddota.com. Now the stream list is now even better, more focused on what I enjoy. Hopefully now the user population can increase a little bit due to this split (that is supposed to benefit the quieter, new users). Hopefully we'll get more in depth guides here. Hopefully we get those content creators that do amazing write ups like we had for Brood War back in the day (and still do have). We need those people to make the Dota content on this network be on par with the content created on teamliquid in the past. It hasn't really happened yet, and the staff are trying with this move to IMPROVE everyone's Dota experience.

I, for one, have a lot of faith in the staff here to create an environment that fosters good content and interesting debate. I look forward to seeing where this goes!

(I also want the forums to be strongly linked with the rest of the network!)
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 12 2014 22:53 GMT
#15
Do you guys think that eventually you will apply this makeover to the original site? I think having a shared community forum would be really sick. Hopefully you guys look into that <3.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 00:00:57
May 12 2014 23:54 GMT
#16
If the general forums from TL were cross linked here I wouldn't have any problem spending most of my time on this site. I watch DotA way more than SC2 now days but being able to monitor and contribute to the general forum section on TL was a major factor in me even making an account and coming to TL multiple times a day.

I'd made the suggestion in another thread on TL. But even only showing sections like General here on LD when logged in and adding those specific sections through filtering would be amazing. Newer users would never see them so they don't get daunted. Only those who specifically wanted to use LD and pull in certain TL forum sections would see them. It keeps the 2 sites separate while allowing the veteran users access to the threads and sections they've followed and contributed to on one site.

Other than the fact that some of those major forum sections that made TL feel alive are missing I do like the look and feel of the site overall better than TL. The right sidebar is a massive upgrade, it's a little more clean and colorful looking here, the favorite team logos are cooler, etc. Just those missing forums make me cry.

Edit: As I said before over on TL. I don't even know if this suggestion is even possible, you'd have to ask R1CH. But it's sort of a best of both worlds idea. Keeps things out of sight, out of mind for new visitors but gives us who have been here a while and miss TL threads the option of seeing them from 1 hub.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 13 2014 00:42 GMT
#17
Yes, I agree about neutral subs being cross linked, like mafia, other games, media & ent, blogs etc.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
May 13 2014 01:26 GMT
#18
I'm glad that Dota has its own website. Now I can introduce my friends to the forums because they were reluctant before since the TL.com was so clutter with starcraft stuff that they weren't interested in.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2014 03:46 GMT
#19
I am glad that the new website is in place. A little sad that general discussion seems to have been a little stifled by the move. It has always been a fun place to hang out with like minded doters. But such is change.

The site is nice and I like the side bars. You still have my Esports dollars.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 04:10:40
May 13 2014 04:10 GMT
#20
Initially, I wasn't too crazy about the General sub-forums not getting linked, but I don't think it's that big of a deal jumping between TL SC and Dota.

The new site looks great! I'm really liking the team flares, and I can't wait to see TL's Dota site grow!
@Diaresta Huk//Jaedong//Taeja ★EGTL★ ♥Stephano♥ | "Agent 3154, welcome back."
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