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Hey all, I'm super tired so I'm gonna keep this actually short.
1. I'm in the Tina (Argentina, C.A.B.A., Barrio Once) and I'm only with kids from my college. I'm cool with that, though I wish I could have met kids from other colleges around the country for this program, it would have made it a lot more fun if my neighbors also had kids my age. SOOO apart from having swat teams raid the houses next door (apparently Barrio Once is hardcore and dangerous lol) I wanna do stuff in town that isn't just in the travel books.
2. I'm here on Spanish immersion, so I'm only speaking Español, which is all cool except that I speak the Castellano taught in high schools and colleges across America, and not Argentine Spanish. I got told this today when I got lost for 3 hours and got help from a nice doorman and janitor (gracias Donalberto y Ronaldo para eso) that saved me from getting more lost. Is there anything I can do, like websites that have legitimately current teenage internet-isms for Spanish kids or slang words I can use. Pretty much all of my english speaking is done in fucked up phrases or slang ridden sentences so that would probably help a lot.
3. Finally, is the college in town really good? I've heard stuff about it and kinda wanna tour the place (Universidad de Buenos Aires, there is another one, but this is the big college). I really wanna go to a party there or something too. Anyone know anything that could help me?
Con Paz y sin dinero.
 
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On May 14 2014 09:12 docvoc wrote:
2. I'm here on Spanish immersion, so I'm only speaking Español, which is all cool except that I speak the Castellano taught in high schools and colleges across America, and not Argentine Spanish. I got told this today when I got lost for 3 hours and got help from a nice doorman and janitor (gracias Donalberto y Ronaldo para eso) that saved me from getting more lost. Is there anything I can do, like websites that have legitimately current teenage internet-isms for Spanish kids or slang words I can use. Pretty much all of my english speaking is done in fucked up phrases or slang ridden sentences so that would probably help a lot.
I learned from a movie (El Norte) that if you want to sound Mexicano, se necesita decir "chinga" despues de todas las palabras 
Other than that, I'd imagine a quick google search would have useful stuff.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Spanish/Slang
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My brother was told to, "stop speaking Mexican," by a few Argentinians the first time he went down there. The Spanish we learn in the states is, by and large, Mexican-style or at least geared towards standard, Mexican Spanish so that can be hard but you'll pick it up.
It was similar to when I studied abroad in China, spoke a fair bit of Mandarin but was studying in the Cantonese speaking Guangdong province. I wound up having to sift through broken Mandarin tones, from native Cantonese speakers, and adjusting to different people I would encounter who spend most of the year in the South to work despite being from places like Harbin.
My advice is to enjoy getting lost within reason and safety concerns. The people who got the least out of the study abroad experiences I found, were the ones who insulated themselves with the other exchange students from day one. Find a cool little hole in the wall cafe, or bar and post up for a bit. You'll get to meet some local friends completely of your own, and build that vocabulary and fluency in a much more organic fashion.
Regardless, enjoy!
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On May 14 2014 21:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
My brother was told to, "stop speaking Mexican," by a few Argentinians the first time he went down there. The Spanish we learn in the states is, by and large, Mexican-style or at least geared towards standard, Mexican Spanish so that can be hard but you'll pick it up.
It was similar to when I studied abroad in China, spoke a fair bit of Mandarin but was studying in the Cantonese speaking Guangdong province. I wound up having to sift through broken Mandarin tones, from native Cantonese speakers, and adjusting to different people I would encounter who spend most of the year in the South to work despite being from places like Harbin.
My advice is to enjoy getting lost within reason and safety concerns. The people who got the least out of the study abroad experiences I found, were the ones who insulated themselves with the other exchange students from day one. Find a cool little hole in the wall cafe, or bar and post up for a bit. You'll get to meet some local friends completely of your own, and build that vocabulary and fluency in a much more organic fashion.
Regardless, enjoy!
YES, they all wanna know why I won't speak Rioplatense Spanish, when they look at me its like I can read either, "Lol this kid barely speaks spanish and its wrong," or its "Lol this Spaniard is lost." That's at least the two opinions that were vocalized for me. Fuck Voseo. Barrio Once (pronounced On-say cuz its the number 11) is a really shitty area I've found. I'm gonna try to get lost safely here and a little more recklessly in areas where I won't get shanked.
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Well you should ditch that douche-baggy attitude and actually accept them and immerse in the culture, or you'll be whining the whole time.... You did pick the country after all right? (i guess?)
This website is a good place for local slang
http://www.asihablamos.com/word/palabra/Coger.php
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I'm from Peru but I've been in Argentina a couple of times. I don't know all the slangs but if you tell the the phrases or whatever you want to translate I could help you with them
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Its not just words, there is a lot of pronunciation differences that wont be obvious on a website. LLs is one of the most common examples. Thats probally more important for being understandable than slang. But you will still sound like a tourist for quite a long while.
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Northern Ireland23305 Posts
Doesn't Argentine Spanish have a lot of leak over in terms of pronounciation from Italian too?
Enjoy your journeying doc, stay safe and all that good stuff.
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On May 15 2014 00:26 JieXian wrote:Well you should ditch that douche-baggy attitude and actually accept them and immerse in the culture, or you'll be whining the whole time.... You did pick the country after all right? (i guess?) This website is a good place for local slang http://www.asihablamos.com/word/palabra/Coger.php
First of all, I actually really enjoy the country, I just happen to be at a home stay in a rough area, and so when people act like assholes to me, it actually endangers my life. Not in a joking way, but in an actual way where it endangers my life to not know things I can't know as an extranjero (foreigner). That's why I was being such a jerk about it. Its not that they have to help me, its that when they don't help me, or worse give me bad advice, at least when it comes to going home its like get attacked or don't get attacked.
EDIT: I should probably also say thats what the other Argentine families, including my own have told me, so this isn't me being a gringo and freaking out, its apparently a thing that I'm in danger of being attacked in my area.
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TLADT24920 Posts
This sounds like a cool experience you're having (aside from getting lost lol). It's rough that the locals aren't giving you the information to keep you safe though. I think the only thing you can do is just be extra cautious and maybe read up yourself on what parts are safe and which aren't and what you should and shouldn't do etc... Other than that, enjoy it and best of luck! 
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On May 15 2014 11:33 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 00:26 JieXian wrote:Well you should ditch that douche-baggy attitude and actually accept them and immerse in the culture, or you'll be whining the whole time.... You did pick the country after all right? (i guess?) This website is a good place for local slang http://www.asihablamos.com/word/palabra/Coger.php First of all, I actually really enjoy the country, I just happen to be at a home stay in a rough area, and so when people act like assholes to me, it actually endangers my life. Not in a joking way, but in an actual way where it endangers my life to not know things I can't know as an extranjero (foreigner). That's why I was being such a jerk about it. Its not that they have to help me, its that when they don't help me, or worse give me bad advice, at least when it comes to going home its like get attacked or don't get attacked. EDIT: I should probably also say thats what the other Argentine families, including my own have told me, so this isn't me being a gringo and freaking out, its apparently a thing that I'm in danger of being attacked in my area.
Ok fair enough Too bad then.
Fuck Voseo.
I was also referring to stuff like this when I talked about choosing Argentina. Just chill and soak in the Voseo since you're already there.
(When I speak to the Spanish I try to speak like them and when I speak to Latinos I try use their local slangs and accents, and when I speak to Calatans I even learn some of their words and everyone is happy )
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