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On April 17 2014 14:43 KadaverBB wrote:Usually with psychiatrists (at least in germany, so take this with a grain of salt I guess) you do like 1-5 preliminary sessions where you just "get to know one another" a little. You talk about your problem and see if you 2 are "compatible" before you actually agree to start an actual therapy. Without healthcare this is probably still gonna cost a reasonable amount of money (probably), but you aren't comitting to a full therapy right away. You could ask around your friends/family/coworkers, maybe one of them knows a psychiatrist and could recommend him/her to you. It sounds stupid, but it personally helped me a lot. A friend of recommended one to me and that made the choice easier because it suddenly felt less random. Theres like 90000 psychiatrists, but you've heard good things about that one, so just pick that one! That's what I did at least 
Ya exactly there's sooo many of them. And yes definitely agree with u on that. What I'm gonna do is first talk to my brother when he comes home this weekend about some stuff, then i may open up and tell my parents for the first time and then prob gonna ask them if they know anyone that knows psychiatrists(while still doing my best on researching some online). It was already one of the things I was planning to do but thanks for the help nonethless!
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On April 17 2014 08:02 MaRiNe23 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 07:56 Darkren wrote:
If you still go to university normally there is alwais a medical staff or psych staff there to help students for free
OCD can't be cure you have to learn to live with it. Ya i know..its just im not in university anymore.. T_T Like I said I didnt know this was OCD till like last week i think? I thought i was just a super clean, super careful person but just a bit excessive sometimes. I only started researching this and found out what it was after the panic attack.
OCD can come in many forms, personally i have a serious issue with things being symmetrical. I can't wear watches and if my body heat is weird and hot on one side i will freak out and get extremely stressed / angry to the point of hitting myself in the head and being completely unable to sleep if im in bed. I used to have a problem with anything i built having to be symmetrical (e.g lego coloured blocks ^^) but i seem to have gotten over that a little, even though it still bothers me.
Mines an extremely mild case and most would say its not even ocd, but ive been diagnosed. OCD can come in so many forms it is really hard to pinpoint.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do man.
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On April 17 2014 06:30 Pierrot wrote:
Don't make a post on TL about this.
Go see a doctor, community health nurse, a psychiatrist, some other medical professional, a social worker, really anything is better than posting on the internet about it.
But seriously, go fucking see someone. Why even bother typing this out, make a fucking appointment.
Damn man so rude
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On April 17 2014 19:16 igay wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 06:30 Pierrot wrote:
Don't make a post on TL about this.
Go see a doctor, community health nurse, a psychiatrist, some other medical professional, a social worker, really anything is better than posting on the internet about it.
But seriously, go fucking see someone. Why even bother typing this out, make a fucking appointment. Damn man so rude
Did you read my other posts?
And why would I care if I am being rude? One's health is the most important thing they have, it is their well-being, their quality of life, their life itself.
What would you tell me if I posted something like:
"Hey guys, I know this is a video game forum, but I just severed my femoral artery cutting tomatoes and want to know what I should do about it. Can anyone help???"
Or, to be less over the top:
"Hey guys, I have a family history of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia and I am having auditory hallucinations and severe suicide ideation. What do I do?"
Yes, I am jaded and cynical and generally insufferable...but how is anything other than "GET FUCKING HELP FROM SOMEONE WHO IS QUALIFIED AND STOP BLOGGING ABOUT IT" a sensible response?
If I called the HealthLine* and read what the OP posted, the only difference between the nurse's response and my own in all capital letters above is that the nurse would be a little more polite.
*The Healthline is a 24/7/365 free telephone service in my province where you can speak with an experienced RN
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On April 17 2014 20:09 Pierrot wrote:
the only difference between the nurse's response and my own in all capital letters above is that the nurse would be a little more polite.
And there we have our problem. You're just being a complete dick. Nobody had a problem with the message you were conveying, it was the way you were conveying it, which is not acceptable in any civilized culture i know of.
"Hey guys i think i have a problem  "
"Go get help then, dumbass"
"Oh, thanks, i feel great about it!"
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I feel you, because I think I have something similar. I just thought of it as "material paranoia" or whatever, because I do not wash my hands a second time; I instead make sure that the crane is closed... up to four times before I am pleased.
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Lay off Pierrot and stick to OP?
The problem is puzzling to me but at very least I think talking about it helps a bit. Just the act of talking about it relieves stress, obviously. So that's a first step. Hang in there though.
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OCD in it self means that you are more obsessive as a person. Plenty of famous and successfull people actually has OCD. One of the few that comes to my mind would be Donalt Trump, Beethoven, Tesla, Leonardo Di Caprio and so forth.
And with that said, if it actually is affecting your life you really need to seek help, and it's not really that strange. What you are doing are just rituals or habits of various kinds which everyone does. Difference is that you might be doing them a bit too much and if that is the case, try to control them. Posting about it here might actually help. If it does not however and you keep feeling like its taking too much of your time then try to talk to a councelour.
One positive side of people with OCD is that they are very persisent and patient to the point where they can achieve impossible things. the hard part lies in to actually control it to become obsessed at the right things instead of caring about the useless stuff. 
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I know this is going to sound crazy, but maybe this occurs because you just have too much free time on your hand. Getting a job and keeping yourself busy may perhaps help you take your mind off such obsessiveness.
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i rmb when i was little i just had to like walk back and jump on a thing like 2 times when i walked to school, had more stuff i just had to do otherwise my brain just got so anxious. But then i forced myself not to do it and it was rly hard but after that i managed to stop doing these obsessive things. I have no idea what that means doh. I probably never had real ocd. Thats probably the difference.
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I know a couple people with ocd and that sure sounds like it. Rituals that consume an unhealthy amount of time, invasive thought, hoarding, etc etc. Obviously I am not a doctor, but at any rate, you clearly have some kind of issue that requires you going to a mental health professional.
As far as searching for a dr, google their names and see if there are reviews. Unfortunately, with no healthcare, your parents not having, and I assume you not being registered for it, you are going to be in a predicament. Therapy is basically learning coping measures, and possibly getting you on meds if necessary. With meds, as you would for any kind of ailment, there is an adjustment period where you figure out what brand and what dosage is good for you. Don't be silly and assume you know more than your dr because it isn't an immediate fix. Just communicate with them how it is making you feel, and they will make adjustments.
Even if you don't have health insurance, I would recommend getting in to a dr sooner rather than later. Left uncontrolled, OCD has an ability to really fuck up your job and relationships. What you should do is tell your parents, bring them a few links about it, and google ways for them to support you. An important part in dealing with OCD is making sure they don't enable you.
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try EFT on it. theres a good chance itll work very well. it also only takes 10 minutes to try
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When there is something wrong with you body there is ALWAYS a cause that is making it happen. What is important when you are trying to heal yourself you should always try to find what is the cause and not just remedy the symptoms. You should have that mindset whenever you have those OCD "episodes" as it will help you realise what is wrong. You should ask yourself; what am I doing wrong in my life that is causing my body to have these impulses? By doing this you start being aware of the things you do each day and then you start changing things up with a try and fail painfull process but you will start to learn your body.
That is the first step at least that has helped me recover my mental and physical health ruined during college.
I think contacting proffesionals will help you find the cause.
I dont know how helpull this is with OCD but it did help me. It does sound trivial but you start slow, by admiting there is something wrong with you which I see you already did.
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On April 17 2014 12:24 MaRiNe23 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 08:54 B.I.G. wrote:
Have you considered that there might be something else wrong with you instead of OCD? Obviously you are having problems but maybe the cause of them could be less permanent than what you are afraid off. Do you have insane stress or something of the sort? I think it's worth exploring if all this can be sourced back to another (hopefully solvable) problem in your life.
I can't imagine exactly what you are going through but I do know what it feels like when your brain fucking you over and you don't seem to have any control over it.. But I do believe that regardless of what is ailing you, you, as an awesome TLer can and will overcome. Best of luck. Here's how my week went thus far (remember I'm unemployed so i stay home and do absolutely NOTHING): Monday: Get up after sleeeeeeeeping in. Just pretty much research this ocd stuff, ate while watching a show (while fighting the ocd whenever it trigggered while eating or watching),then spend rest of day doing the same thing again which is researching or reading the ocd stuff on the internet<-----pretty much just summarized to eat + read stuff on the net after getting more than enough sleep a.k.a NOTHING. Tuesday: SAME THING except for the addition of chatting with Luckyfool on skype and chatting with other friends. Chatting helps the ocd somewhat becuz while i read and engage in convo and type back I am not "thinking" so it helps my mind not think and if it does trigger i always have the option to just stop typing, say the positive crap over n over and relieve myself before chatting again. I can't do this in sc cuz i have to keep macroing building stuff..i cant just stop like i can when i chat. Also the reseraching the ocd has helped me cuz since i have this and want to find some way to get rid of it, it "interests" me so while im reading i have my attention on what im reading so once again helps me to forget my mind and just focus on the article. If the OCD is trigger then again, i can just stop anytime and do my ritual. Tuesday tldr; basically same thing as monday except chatted with luckyfool and other friends Wednesday: SAME THING LOL. Except this time addition of posting this looong blog on tl and church for about an hour. My point is I really don't think I'm under any stress right now. I'm pretty much staying home all day not doing much. Actually I'm not doing anything right now except tryinjg my abolute best to keep my mind from triggering the ocd. So besides eating just doing whatever i can to fight this ocd or just rolling in bed just being driven crazy from this basically(i actually cried a bit yesterday cuz it just wont go way) I honestly think the ocd is causing me more stress. Rather than the other way around. Pretty much I think the week I got the panic attack was the same thing...i wasn't doing much and while trying to fight the ocd it just became too much to control, i lost control, then this is when fear hit me that I wasn't able to control it so my heart started racing so fast at the negative <--is the best way i can describe how it went.
You don't have to convince me that you have issues. One thing can be said for sure is that you have symptoms that clearly resemble OCD. What I'm trying to say is that since OCD is a diagnosis that (based on what the other posters have said) is an ailment that can only be treated, not cured and therefore it is worth it to explore other avenues and trying to eliminate possible problems in your life causing your symptoms.
Regarding your claim that you aren't under any stress: to me it seems that spending your entire week being concerned about having OCD and googling symptoms sounds EXTREMELY stressful. I remember a time in my life when I was afraid I might have had a desease that usually proves fatal. I spent days, weeks, even YEARS worrying about it and put myself under so much stress I drove myself into panick attacks and depression. What I think a lot of people fail to see is just how powerful is and how hard (almost impossible) it can be to control even if your brain is completely healthy and you have no natural disposition towards things such as depression and OCD. If you are anything like me spending day after day doing nothing but worrying about what might or might not be wrong with you will only make things worse.
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ACA is employer based- don't expect help from there. It was a political ploy posing as something else, people who had insurance are now losing it.
I would say pay a visit anyway, because doctors are not ogres generally (well, some might be like ogres) and won't charge you for making inquiry.
I don't have insurance either. Due to this the doc gave huge discounts, however, now the receptionists are asking for insurance because due to the ACA, purchase of insurance is now mandated and fines will result from not signing on.
So
Go sign up. Because if you can't afford it, I believe there are programs. If there aren't
When TL got all pissy about the papa john's thing and ACA I was among those who war-
Shutting up.
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I'm a little late to the party, but since I have serious OCD I might as well chip in.
As a resource for information about OCD, I really like International OCD Foundation. They have a page on treatment which summarizes the options. A brief summary: the gold standard of treatment these days is cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT). This type of therapy focuses on addressing obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviour directly, and is quite effective: most people with OCD learn to live with the condition using CBT. It's best if you can pursue CBT with a therapist, but if funds are a problem, you can try to work through a workbook (like the following) on your own.
SSRI's can also help a lot in making CBT more effective. Generally the way it works is that for most people SSRIs help a lot, and for a small group of people they don't help at all---no in-between. I think this is one reason why there's so much negative information about them online. Personally I've had a lot of success with Sertraline (aka Zoloft) in high doses. There are side-effects but for me (and most people) they are minor compared to the positive effects of the drug. Again, if you can't afford a psychiatrist, any general practitioner should be able to get you a prescription. Personally, I was very scared of trying medication, but I decided to give it a try, and stop or switch medications if the side-effects were too bad. I'm glad I did now.
I don't know if you have OCD, but it's clear that whatever you have is causing you a lot of distress and interfering with your life. So whatever you do, you should definitely talk a medical professional and those close to you to get help.
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according to medical guidelines, if you spend more than 1 hour a day doing a "useless" task, you have OCD
And if you have no success with an SSRI, you could possibly try another SSRI, or a SNRI.
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On April 18 2014 21:07 munchmunch wrote:I'm a little late to the party, but since I have serious OCD I might as well chip in. As a resource for information about OCD, I really like International OCD Foundation. They have a page on treatment which summarizes the options. A brief summary: the gold standard of treatment these days is cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT). This type of therapy focuses on addressing obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviour directly, and is quite effective: most people with OCD learn to live with the condition using CBT. It's best if you can pursue CBT with a therapist, but if funds are a problem, you can try to work through a workbook (like the following) on your own. SSRI's can also help a lot in making CBT more effective. Generally the way it works is that for most people SSRIs help a lot, and for a small group of people they don't help at all---no in-between. I think this is one reason why there's so much negative information about them online. Personally I've had a lot of success with Sertraline (aka Zoloft) in high doses. There are side-effects but for me (and most people) they are minor compared to the positive effects of the drug. Again, if you can't afford a psychiatrist, any general practitioner should be able to get you a prescription. Personally, I was very scared of trying medication, but I decided to give it a try, and stop or switch medications if the side-effects were too bad. I'm glad I did now. I don't know if you have OCD, but it's clear that whatever you have is causing you a lot of distress and interfering with your life. So whatever you do, you should definitely talk a medical professional and those close to you to get help.
This is pretty much the kind of stuff I was looking for when I made this thread. Seriously thank you so much. I had a psychiatrist that I searched hours for online that I was gonna go with if I decided to see one but that website helped me find an even better one that actually specializes specifically in OCD and now I have a bit more confidence with this psychiatrist.
This is just a related question so if anyone knows can feel free to answer because I rarely go to the doctor and not sure about these things but: If i don't have insurance, does $100-$180 per visit seem standard to see a psychiatrist? And will I still even be able to see one without health insurance? Someone mentioned something about the ACA and that stresses me out even more if they refuse to let me see a psychiatrist because I can't afford helath insurance?
edit: And thanks alot for the support and trying to help me out guys. I'm definietely checking this thread everyday while doing research and hopefully I'll be able to get this treated!
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