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In Vienna! First time! Visited Sweden too ^^

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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 17:23:35
March 22 2014 17:18 GMT
#1
So today is a bright shinning day, but I'm wiped out, so I'm just spending it at the hotel;
the sun is setting now, but I arrived here from Zurich at 11am and I'm here for the weekend for a business meeting.

VIENNA
Other than Paris, there is no city that I ever particularly wanted to visit, but Vienna is where one of my favorite movies was shot, 'Before Sunrise'. Sappy movie I know, but it came out when I was university student and with the next 2 movies, it's pretty much been on the same timeline of my own life, so it's special to me like that. So tomorrow I plan to be stupid and try to visit some of the places that were in the movie and be a tourist and take some photos. ^^

I have to say though, in the first 1hr of being in Vienna, I've had one of the best coffees and ice cream I've EVER had in my entire life. Really! And things are extremely reasonably priced here, overall a really great city thus far- my hotel is just right across the UN buildings, so I'm about 10 mins out of the city center by train, but so far so good!

I ended up coming to Europe last week Sunday, but the airline I was on lost my luggage for 4 fucking days, so I ended up buying a set of ill fitting business clothes (cause I was wearing a track suit) and had a meeting in Malmo Sweden, where I froze my ass off, but the meetings worked out well.

MALMO
We ended up flight from Zurich to ....Copenhagen! Wtf right? But there is a 20min bridge from there to Malmo Sweden and so I got to go to 2 countries in one day. keke. I'll be going back to Sweden at the end of next month, Malmo and Stockholm which I was told there are so many hot chicks in Stockholm so I'm looking forward to it.

The only interesting thing that happened was in Malmo; actually I was there to do a presentation for about 30 business people, but when I did the presentation, the reaction I got was a bit muted. Thing is, coming from Korea and being in business where I rarely work with women, I think that my presentation wasn't really appropriate for the Swedish business people. While there was only 3 women in the presentation, they gave me slightly weird looks, and the guys looked scared of the girls a bit, so when I'd make my jabs at humour, they wouldn't really laugh.

KOREAN OFFENDER OF SWEDEN
Anyways, being the Korean that I am, I continued and end the presentation to some polite applause. And so what I did I say that was so offensive?
Well, I put in 5 pictures of some of the models we were using in our marketing, of course the models weren't really dressed all the way, and, I make jokes like I travel so much I can't see my wife, but that is ok cause I have less stress that way and she wants to divorce me anyway. etc. Just self depreciating jokes mostly at my expense. Or how much we spent to get x number of celebrities at an event, but of course it was all just female celebrities.

So after the presentation we go for a break and the guys are coming up to me and saying how much they really like the presentation, but then they would look around to see who is looking at them saying it. And I'm thinking to myself that it's weird cause their bosses who were there had a great time and they are like 60 plus, so I'm still wondering what is wrong.

By the time the other speakers finish and we're outside for a smoke, the other speaker who is Swedish says, 'hey, you're presentation was great, but this is Sweden, you can't say or present that way here.' And I'm like, 'what way?' and he's like, 'you can't make jokes about your wife or have sexy girl pictures in your presentation and then make light sexual jokes about it,'. And I'm like, 'Oh shit, of course, I'm in Sweden where there is this equality thing going on. Oh man.'

Keeping in mind it has been over 12 years since I did a public presentation outside of Asia; so before I could apologize more, the other speaker says,' but you killed the presentation, everyone was really impressed. ' And I'm like, ' um, so I didn't just offend everyone?' and he like, 'of course you offended the women, but I think they were more annoyed than anything plus they know you're not from Sweden, but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.'

SWEDISH AND STRIP CLUBS
So what I learned was that a Swedish guy would never, over his dead body, ever admit to a Swedish girl that he has ever gone or would go to a strip club even. But the first thing that every Swedish guy does when he leaves Sweden is go to a strip club lol. So by they time we go for drinks, I of course get confronted by one of the ladies in the presentation and she asks me and tells me, that she isn't a feminist, but that my marketing should include more material that would attract women, and to that I reply that the product is mainly used by men, so it's all a matter of priority when I have x number of dollars, why would I try to use those dollars inefficiently, but that I agreed that should I have a large enough market share I would look towards making things more equal for sure. Then one of the guys asks, 'is it possible to visit you in Asia, where do you recommend?' And I said, Macau for sure.

They of course are now interested as hell, so they ask me, 'what is so great in Macau' and I tell them, 'listen boys, if you come to Macau and if I take you out, the one day, when you're an old man and your grandson asks you what was the best time you ever had in your life, you're gonna say, 'kid, you're lucky you're even born cause the best time I ever had was in Macau and I almost didn't come back to Sweden!' To that all the boys cheers and laughed, and the girls gave me a dirty look and we all got wasted together on that cold night in Malmo, Sweden. ^^

But I'll say this, since Swedish women are so freaking hot, I'd suffer in equality too for that kind of Swedish love! I understand you Swedes! It's a hard life! keke.

I hope I have an interesting story about Vienna by Monday ^^
Prost!

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xeliana
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria60 Posts
March 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#2
hey ... im sure you will enjoy vienna.

as a resident of almost 8 years now, the city has sooo much to offer.

hf in the city
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PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
March 22 2014 17:46 GMT
#3
Rofl that conclusion is hilarious

Great blog!
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Jh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Finland151 Posts
March 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#4
When in Sweden, make fun of the Finns.

As far as the muted response to a presentation, that's a cultural thing that applies in many situations. Nordic people want to seem very "proper", never stepping out of line. I remember the first time I went to see Paul Gilbert in concert. We were queuing in front of the venue and PG&the band step out to get to their van. 100 fans and no one made a sound. That shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.

bit of a tangent but proves the quiet respectfulness of the culture.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 22 2014 18:52 GMT
#5
Ahaha, wow. Sounds amazing so far, what stories :D
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 22 2014 19:07 GMT
#6
welcome to vienna, hope you enjoy yourself in our city

the weather was really great today. i hope you were able to experience it because apparently tomorrow it's going to be rainy and shitty =/

i hope you'll make a post afterwards about where you went and how you liked it in Vienna
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12087 Posts
March 22 2014 19:21 GMT
#7
On March 23 2014 02:18 MightyAtom wrote:
SWEDISH AND STRIP CLUBS
So what I learned was that a Swedish guy would never, over his dead body, ever admit to a Swedish girl that he has ever gone or would go to a strip club even. But the first thing that every Swedish guy does when he leaves Sweden is go to a strip club lol.


This is so true. There are strip clubs in Sweden as well but most people don't seem to know it.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 19:30:49
March 22 2014 19:25 GMT
#8
you probably should eat this cake they make there, its pretty good.

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they also have special wine (m not a wine person, i dont know much about that), but i think its off season right now.

then i was there, they had like what they called "bermuda triangle", where there were a lot of bars that were pretty similar to german ones.


And ofc the culture stuff, but there are guides for that.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
March 22 2014 19:29 GMT
#9
5/5 blog enjoy the swedes bit. Any pictures to go along with your adventure?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 22 2014 19:39 GMT
#10
I would've gotten you a beer or three had I known you were around to make up for how dreadfully boring this corner of the world is...
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speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
March 22 2014 20:01 GMT
#11
I would love to go to Vienna one day. It seems like a tremendous city, enjoy your travels.
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itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
March 22 2014 20:31 GMT
#12
feel free to msg me for the best vienna tour ever, top notch clubs & bars....I accept high class cocktails & ciroc as payment
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2787 Posts
March 22 2014 21:37 GMT
#13
Haha scantily clad women in a business presentation. :D It's a no no. Luckily most of the people who could have gotten offended are also very likely to try to understand other cultures since that's also a big thing in Sweden so they'd be generally more accepting since your asian. :D
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 22 2014 22:13 GMT
#14
Gonna have to make sure I make a stop in Vienna when I go there this spring/summer then

And maybe Sweden too ;D
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 22 2014 23:40 GMT
#15
Lol! Gotta admit that I would have been pretty pissed if someone had women in underwear in their presentation and also kept making sex jokes.
Great story though. Hope you will enjoy Stockholm, lots of blondes pretending they are on a catwalk if you are into that. Sweden is great is certain ways, kinda wish I could move back soon.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#16
I'm curious what's so good about Macau? Besides a shit ton of casinos of course.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 23 2014 01:35 GMT
#17
Entertaining blog, but I'm not sure why equality for women = suffering for you.
I'm glad we have strong independent women in our country, who have more going on for them than just trying to please their man and family.
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usedtocare
Profile Joined August 2013
United States243 Posts
March 23 2014 02:17 GMT
#18
On March 23 2014 06:37 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Haha scantily clad women in a business presentation. :D It's a no no. Luckily most of the people who could have gotten offended are also very likely to try to understand other cultures since that's also a big thing in Sweden so they'd be generally more accepting since your asian. :D


You just made a post infinitely more offensive that what he has described. But he will definitely not care.

I respect people that can make/take a joke or maneuver around accepted boundaries a lot more than just another generic drone. As long as you understand why certain restrictions are in place you should be golden.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
March 23 2014 03:49 GMT
#19
I never understood whats so good about stripclubs. Always thought thats an American thing
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 23 2014 09:01 GMT
#20
On March 23 2014 05:31 itsdaniel wrote:
feel free to msg me for the best vienna tour ever, top notch clubs & bars....I accept high class cocktails & ciroc as payment


keke, I had some really nice cocktails last night, and I went to some famous austrian restaurant by the river that specializes in spareribs, very tasty and down like 4 beers, we called it early at 1am cause I had been up at 4am, so I was passing now in the taxi ^^ but today just business meetings all day, so next time I'll take you up on that!
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