• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:20
CEST 10:20
KST 17:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed12Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft in widescreen A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 862 users

In Vienna! First time! Visited Sweden too ^^

Blogs > MightyAtom
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 17:23:35
March 22 2014 17:18 GMT
#1
So today is a bright shinning day, but I'm wiped out, so I'm just spending it at the hotel;
the sun is setting now, but I arrived here from Zurich at 11am and I'm here for the weekend for a business meeting.

VIENNA
Other than Paris, there is no city that I ever particularly wanted to visit, but Vienna is where one of my favorite movies was shot, 'Before Sunrise'. Sappy movie I know, but it came out when I was university student and with the next 2 movies, it's pretty much been on the same timeline of my own life, so it's special to me like that. So tomorrow I plan to be stupid and try to visit some of the places that were in the movie and be a tourist and take some photos. ^^

I have to say though, in the first 1hr of being in Vienna, I've had one of the best coffees and ice cream I've EVER had in my entire life. Really! And things are extremely reasonably priced here, overall a really great city thus far- my hotel is just right across the UN buildings, so I'm about 10 mins out of the city center by train, but so far so good!

I ended up coming to Europe last week Sunday, but the airline I was on lost my luggage for 4 fucking days, so I ended up buying a set of ill fitting business clothes (cause I was wearing a track suit) and had a meeting in Malmo Sweden, where I froze my ass off, but the meetings worked out well.

MALMO
We ended up flight from Zurich to ....Copenhagen! Wtf right? But there is a 20min bridge from there to Malmo Sweden and so I got to go to 2 countries in one day. keke. I'll be going back to Sweden at the end of next month, Malmo and Stockholm which I was told there are so many hot chicks in Stockholm so I'm looking forward to it.

The only interesting thing that happened was in Malmo; actually I was there to do a presentation for about 30 business people, but when I did the presentation, the reaction I got was a bit muted. Thing is, coming from Korea and being in business where I rarely work with women, I think that my presentation wasn't really appropriate for the Swedish business people. While there was only 3 women in the presentation, they gave me slightly weird looks, and the guys looked scared of the girls a bit, so when I'd make my jabs at humour, they wouldn't really laugh.

KOREAN OFFENDER OF SWEDEN
Anyways, being the Korean that I am, I continued and end the presentation to some polite applause. And so what I did I say that was so offensive?
Well, I put in 5 pictures of some of the models we were using in our marketing, of course the models weren't really dressed all the way, and, I make jokes like I travel so much I can't see my wife, but that is ok cause I have less stress that way and she wants to divorce me anyway. etc. Just self depreciating jokes mostly at my expense. Or how much we spent to get x number of celebrities at an event, but of course it was all just female celebrities.

So after the presentation we go for a break and the guys are coming up to me and saying how much they really like the presentation, but then they would look around to see who is looking at them saying it. And I'm thinking to myself that it's weird cause their bosses who were there had a great time and they are like 60 plus, so I'm still wondering what is wrong.

By the time the other speakers finish and we're outside for a smoke, the other speaker who is Swedish says, 'hey, you're presentation was great, but this is Sweden, you can't say or present that way here.' And I'm like, 'what way?' and he's like, 'you can't make jokes about your wife or have sexy girl pictures in your presentation and then make light sexual jokes about it,'. And I'm like, 'Oh shit, of course, I'm in Sweden where there is this equality thing going on. Oh man.'

Keeping in mind it has been over 12 years since I did a public presentation outside of Asia; so before I could apologize more, the other speaker says,' but you killed the presentation, everyone was really impressed. ' And I'm like, ' um, so I didn't just offend everyone?' and he like, 'of course you offended the women, but I think they were more annoyed than anything plus they know you're not from Sweden, but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.'

SWEDISH AND STRIP CLUBS
So what I learned was that a Swedish guy would never, over his dead body, ever admit to a Swedish girl that he has ever gone or would go to a strip club even. But the first thing that every Swedish guy does when he leaves Sweden is go to a strip club lol. So by they time we go for drinks, I of course get confronted by one of the ladies in the presentation and she asks me and tells me, that she isn't a feminist, but that my marketing should include more material that would attract women, and to that I reply that the product is mainly used by men, so it's all a matter of priority when I have x number of dollars, why would I try to use those dollars inefficiently, but that I agreed that should I have a large enough market share I would look towards making things more equal for sure. Then one of the guys asks, 'is it possible to visit you in Asia, where do you recommend?' And I said, Macau for sure.

They of course are now interested as hell, so they ask me, 'what is so great in Macau' and I tell them, 'listen boys, if you come to Macau and if I take you out, the one day, when you're an old man and your grandson asks you what was the best time you ever had in your life, you're gonna say, 'kid, you're lucky you're even born cause the best time I ever had was in Macau and I almost didn't come back to Sweden!' To that all the boys cheers and laughed, and the girls gave me a dirty look and we all got wasted together on that cold night in Malmo, Sweden. ^^

But I'll say this, since Swedish women are so freaking hot, I'd suffer in equality too for that kind of Swedish love! I understand you Swedes! It's a hard life! keke.

I hope I have an interesting story about Vienna by Monday ^^
Prost!

****
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
xeliana
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria60 Posts
March 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#2
hey ... im sure you will enjoy vienna.

as a resident of almost 8 years now, the city has sooo much to offer.

hf in the city
keep calm and play dota!
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
March 22 2014 17:46 GMT
#3
Rofl that conclusion is hilarious

Great blog!
Tracking treasure down
Jh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Finland151 Posts
March 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#4
When in Sweden, make fun of the Finns.

As far as the muted response to a presentation, that's a cultural thing that applies in many situations. Nordic people want to seem very "proper", never stepping out of line. I remember the first time I went to see Paul Gilbert in concert. We were queuing in front of the venue and PG&the band step out to get to their van. 100 fans and no one made a sound. That shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.

bit of a tangent but proves the quiet respectfulness of the culture.
what
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 22 2014 18:52 GMT
#5
Ahaha, wow. Sounds amazing so far, what stories :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 22 2014 19:07 GMT
#6
welcome to vienna, hope you enjoy yourself in our city

the weather was really great today. i hope you were able to experience it because apparently tomorrow it's going to be rainy and shitty =/

i hope you'll make a post afterwards about where you went and how you liked it in Vienna
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11818 Posts
March 22 2014 19:21 GMT
#7
On March 23 2014 02:18 MightyAtom wrote:
SWEDISH AND STRIP CLUBS
So what I learned was that a Swedish guy would never, over his dead body, ever admit to a Swedish girl that he has ever gone or would go to a strip club even. But the first thing that every Swedish guy does when he leaves Sweden is go to a strip club lol.


This is so true. There are strip clubs in Sweden as well but most people don't seem to know it.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 19:30:49
March 22 2014 19:25 GMT
#8
you probably should eat this cake they make there, its pretty good.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


they also have special wine (m not a wine person, i dont know much about that), but i think its off season right now.

then i was there, they had like what they called "bermuda triangle", where there were a lot of bars that were pretty similar to german ones.


And ofc the culture stuff, but there are guides for that.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
March 22 2014 19:29 GMT
#9
5/5 blog enjoy the swedes bit. Any pictures to go along with your adventure?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 22 2014 19:39 GMT
#10
I would've gotten you a beer or three had I known you were around to make up for how dreadfully boring this corner of the world is...
AdministratorBreak the chains
speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
March 22 2014 20:01 GMT
#11
I would love to go to Vienna one day. It seems like a tremendous city, enjoy your travels.
twin anchors houseboats
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
March 22 2014 20:31 GMT
#12
feel free to msg me for the best vienna tour ever, top notch clubs & bars....I accept high class cocktails & ciroc as payment
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2598 Posts
March 22 2014 21:37 GMT
#13
Haha scantily clad women in a business presentation. :D It's a no no. Luckily most of the people who could have gotten offended are also very likely to try to understand other cultures since that's also a big thing in Sweden so they'd be generally more accepting since your asian. :D
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 22 2014 22:13 GMT
#14
Gonna have to make sure I make a stop in Vienna when I go there this spring/summer then

And maybe Sweden too ;D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 22 2014 23:40 GMT
#15
Lol! Gotta admit that I would have been pretty pissed if someone had women in underwear in their presentation and also kept making sex jokes.
Great story though. Hope you will enjoy Stockholm, lots of blondes pretending they are on a catwalk if you are into that. Sweden is great is certain ways, kinda wish I could move back soon.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
March 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#16
I'm curious what's so good about Macau? Besides a shit ton of casinos of course.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 23 2014 01:35 GMT
#17
Entertaining blog, but I'm not sure why equality for women = suffering for you.
I'm glad we have strong independent women in our country, who have more going on for them than just trying to please their man and family.
beep boop
usedtocare
Profile Joined August 2013
United States243 Posts
March 23 2014 02:17 GMT
#18
On March 23 2014 06:37 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Haha scantily clad women in a business presentation. :D It's a no no. Luckily most of the people who could have gotten offended are also very likely to try to understand other cultures since that's also a big thing in Sweden so they'd be generally more accepting since your asian. :D


You just made a post infinitely more offensive that what he has described. But he will definitely not care.

I respect people that can make/take a joke or maneuver around accepted boundaries a lot more than just another generic drone. As long as you understand why certain restrictions are in place you should be golden.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
March 23 2014 03:49 GMT
#19
I never understood whats so good about stripclubs. Always thought thats an American thing
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 23 2014 09:01 GMT
#20
On March 23 2014 05:31 itsdaniel wrote:
feel free to msg me for the best vienna tour ever, top notch clubs & bars....I accept high class cocktails & ciroc as payment


keke, I had some really nice cocktails last night, and I went to some famous austrian restaurant by the river that specializes in spareribs, very tasty and down like 4 beers, we called it early at 1am cause I had been up at 4am, so I was passing now in the taxi ^^ but today just business meetings all day, so next time I'll take you up on that!
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46348
Sea 1277
GuemChi 573
Larva 508
zelot 205
PianO 159
Sharp 93
ToSsGirL 64
BeSt 49
Sacsri 40
[ Show more ]
NaDa 40
JulyZerg 34
Bale 11
Shine 10
Hm[arnc] 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe467
ODPixel331
XaKoH 280
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1128
shoxiejesuss619
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King175
Other Games
gofns9463
ceh9358
SortOf112
Trikslyr22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3047
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH395
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2186
League of Legends
• Stunt815
• HappyZerGling84
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
7h 41m
Replay Cast
15h 41m
The PondCast
1d 1h
OSC
1d 4h
WardiTV European League
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Epic.LAN
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Online Event
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
6 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.