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In Vienna! First time! Visited Sweden too ^^ - Page 3

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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
March 23 2014 18:18 GMT
#41
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 19:04:51
March 23 2014 19:03 GMT
#42
What you describe sounds like the first district (living for rich austrians, shopping for rich tourists). Is there no "I have money so I can afford to live here" district where you are from ?
And yes most of the shops close, so go buy groceries or clothes earlier, after 7 its time to drink :D
Where is my ACE flair
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 23 2014 21:02 GMT
#43
On March 24 2014 03:18 HaRuHi wrote:
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.

sounds like you never left the first district. also i've been to numerous European cities and there were beggars at pretty much all of the big ones. i'm not saying we always treat them super well, but i don't think Vienna sticks out in that regard.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
March 23 2014 21:03 GMT
#44
On March 24 2014 06:02 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 03:18 HaRuHi wrote:
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.

sounds like you never left the first district. also i've been to numerous European cities and there were beggars at pretty much all of the big ones. i'm not saying we always treat them super well, but i don't think Vienna sticks out in that regard.


agreed, most of what he said could probably be applied to parts of Oslo as well. or pretty much any decent-sized city, at least in Europe
memes are a dish best served dank
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12151 Posts
March 23 2014 21:42 GMT
#45
On March 24 2014 06:03 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 24 2014 03:18 HaRuHi wrote:
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.

sounds like you never left the first district. also i've been to numerous European cities and there were beggars at pretty much all of the big ones. i'm not saying we always treat them super well, but i don't think Vienna sticks out in that regard.


agreed, most of what he said could probably be applied to parts of Oslo as well. or pretty much any decent-sized city, at least in Europe


Yep, all European cities I've been to has that problem to some degree. Was the same in Seattle when I was there for TI3. A lot of beggars in the centre of the city (more than in Stockholm, but might just have been the areas I was in).
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 24 2014 05:31 GMT
#46
As promised some surprising pictures!

So if you look in the background you see a poker tournament! Didn't know that EPT Vienna was going on at the same time.
And...right above my shoulder is..Elky! (he busted out of the highroller shortly after- it wasn't my fault! but he made the money at least keke)
[image loading]


And here we are outside after lunch with his lovely girlfriend, wasn't kidding when I said I got fat keke, but fuck it, I'm fat and powerful like an Archon haha.

[image loading]

So I have to say, I love Vienna, although last night it was freezing with non-stop rain. I basically when out with my clients to lunch with Elky & his gf and then after we freaked out his gf enough, (We dropped off Elky at his place) Then we went to the Hilton to eat cake and finish off our business meeting, then we went to another bar and I nearly passed out, just because I was so tired. They took pity on me, drove me to the hotel, and I'm taking the 930 flight back to Zurich, I arrive at 10:45 and then I'm on a 4pm flight to Hong Kong, so I have a lunch meeting at the airport then off I go. ^^

I'll be back in Zurich/Vienna by the end of next month, I have to say, from the discussions above,
well I'd probably look like either a happy mindless tourist or a rich fucker, I didn't see many beggars at the palace, but I guess it's actually better to have them around the richer areas:
1. they probably can get more for their time
2. whether you ignore them or not, you do see them and I think that is always important, no matter how uncomfortable it can sometimes make you feel, but
3. when I'm in places like Manila, in the richer areas you wont' see beggars because the private security gets them out, but the real destitution of these people is unimaginable so, anyways, I wasn't disgusted by Vienna at all, in fact, Austria seems quite the unique country considering it's history and where it is geographically.

Anyhow, I gotta go catch a place, but much love from a Korean in Vienna ^^ I miss the coffee and ice cream already!
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
March 24 2014 06:03 GMT
#47
jog in place for the whole flight in your roomy first class section to counteract the fatness.
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 24 2014 06:11 GMT
#48
On March 24 2014 15:03 Thaniri wrote:
jog in place for the whole flight in your roomy first class section to counteract the fatness.

While I drink beer and cocktails? Will try ^^
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
March 24 2014 09:02 GMT
#49
dave you are an ultralisk not an archon
why so 진지해?
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
March 24 2014 11:08 GMT
#50
but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.


Had me in stitches. Boys will always be boys, and girls just have to accept that it's a male thing, like us men cannot understand things in fashion, cooking and raising a family that would be second nature to their discussions unless we lived our entire lives with it.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 24 2014 11:09 GMT
#51
On March 23 2014 18:16 MightyAtom wrote:
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On March 23 2014 10:35 7mk wrote:
Entertaining blog, but I'm not sure why equality for women = suffering for you.
I'm glad we have strong independent women in our country, who have more going on for them than just trying to please their man and family.


The same reason why you're glad you have strong independent women, it's cultural. I'm sure if you were in a gender role society instead of a gender equality society you'd feel uncomfortable, too, but for me, I'd be suffering of what I'd be missing, not necessarily suffering because I'm there. When in Rome, I'm still a Korean ^^


mh well you worded it like swedish men were suffering from equality
and dont worry i dont feel uncomfortable in korea
beep boop
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 24 2014 11:51 GMT
#52
On March 24 2014 20:08 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.


Had me in stitches. Boys will always be boys, and girls just have to accept that it's a male thing, like us men cannot understand things in fashion, cooking and raising a family that would be second nature to their discussions unless we lived our entire lives with it.

i fucking love cooking
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
March 24 2014 13:51 GMT
#53
On March 24 2014 20:51 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 20:08 Ciryandor wrote:
but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.


Had me in stitches. Boys will always be boys, and girls just have to accept that it's a male thing, like us men cannot understand things in fashion, cooking and raising a family that would be second nature to their discussions unless we lived our entire lives with it.

i fucking love cooking

Yeah, Screw you ciryandor! You insensitive prick! :D
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 24 2014 14:35 GMT
#54
On March 24 2014 22:51 Ahzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 20:51 Schelim wrote:
On March 24 2014 20:08 Ciryandor wrote:
but the guys, no they loved it, but they couldn't show it, they are scared of the reaction from the women.


Had me in stitches. Boys will always be boys, and girls just have to accept that it's a male thing, like us men cannot understand things in fashion, cooking and raising a family that would be second nature to their discussions unless we lived our entire lives with it.

i fucking love cooking

Yeah, Screw you ciryandor! You insensitive prick! :D


hehe,I love cooking too, and when I was young, I was sexy fashionable stud too ^^
But jokes aside, lets not be too simplistic and barbaric here, we're all humans for many things, while we have some differences here and there, I don't think it comes down to those superficial things. Besides we all know the best chefs in the world are men lol. ^^ keke, just making a joke!
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
March 24 2014 17:12 GMT
#55
On March 24 2014 06:42 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 06:03 marttorn wrote:
On March 24 2014 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 24 2014 03:18 HaRuHi wrote:
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.

sounds like you never left the first district. also i've been to numerous European cities and there were beggars at pretty much all of the big ones. i'm not saying we always treat them super well, but i don't think Vienna sticks out in that regard.


agreed, most of what he said could probably be applied to parts of Oslo as well. or pretty much any decent-sized city, at least in Europe


Yep, all European cities I've been to has that problem to some degree. Was the same in Seattle when I was there for TI3. A lot of beggars in the centre of the city (more than in Stockholm, but might just have been the areas I was in).


You guys are right, I stayed pretty close to the ronacher and most days just went there and back to my hotel. I got around and the other areas defnitly were more pleasant, but on my daily bases it left a negative impression, which ofcourse got totally screwed by getting payed to stay at these fancy locations, Also I am from Berlin and am not THAT aware about the problem here, probably because it is chic to dress all greenie and I usually don't visit tourist areas often in my hometown^^.
JollYRoGeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden342 Posts
March 24 2014 17:17 GMT
#56
Man I love reading about your adventures. When you visit Stockholm I'm up for meeting up, given you have time! Not even sure what you're actually working with, but I'd love to have a Korean contact. Bare in mind that I'm relatively young(27years old), but I'm an entrepreneur working with big industrial projects, property management and various project. I'd love to hear about how that shit is in Korea, and more about Korean culture!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
March 24 2014 22:26 GMT
#57
glad u had fun in vienna
yo
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
March 24 2014 23:06 GMT
#58
Awesome pictures and getting to see Elky!

Sounds like you had a good time, hope you'll enjoy your next visit just as much :D
Safe flying!



On March 25 2014 02:12 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 06:42 Yurie wrote:
On March 24 2014 06:03 marttorn wrote:
On March 24 2014 06:02 Schelim wrote:
On March 24 2014 03:18 HaRuHi wrote:
Personally I was disgusted by vienna. Like, it is a super chill place, much culture, they serve those long tasty roasted breads at every bar, the beer, especially the dark one is sooo yummi. And then you go from jewelery shop to designer fashion store with picturesque 500 years old buildings and find hungarian beggars with no shoes in the winter between them. And people with fancy coats and diamonds around their neck just walk by while the poor die and nobody gives a shit. Dunno, was really disturbing to see the difference between the rich and poor so blantly.
All the shops close at like 7pm, felt more like a village than a capital city, but that also had it's charm.

sounds like you never left the first district. also i've been to numerous European cities and there were beggars at pretty much all of the big ones. i'm not saying we always treat them super well, but i don't think Vienna sticks out in that regard.


agreed, most of what he said could probably be applied to parts of Oslo as well. or pretty much any decent-sized city, at least in Europe


Yep, all European cities I've been to has that problem to some degree. Was the same in Seattle when I was there for TI3. A lot of beggars in the centre of the city (more than in Stockholm, but might just have been the areas I was in).


You guys are right, I stayed pretty close to the ronacher and most days just went there and back to my hotel. I got around and the other areas defnitly were more pleasant, but on my daily bases it left a negative impression, which ofcourse got totally screwed by getting payed to stay at these fancy locations, Also I am from Berlin and am not THAT aware about the problem here, probably because it is chic to dress all greenie and I usually don't visit tourist areas often in my hometown^^.


I am unaware of how prevalent it is in Vienna, but I guess it also depends what area of Berlin you're hanging out in. If you were around Zoo you'd always get your share of regular penner or the purpose-dropped gypsy beggars at kudamm brought in by the busload in the morning.

On March 24 2014 18:02 Rekrul wrote:
dave you are an ultralisk not an archon

rofl


Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
March 25 2014 00:24 GMT
#59
I miss Vienna. It always feels like home to me but I haven't been there in years. Glad you enjoyed it!
@nowSimon
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 25 2014 03:23 GMT
#60
First of all, nice to hear more from you. After the 'how to be a man, korean style' blogs, it felt almost natural at least reading it.

Very interesting how the presentation went. Taking into account cultural differences at presentations is a basic concept, but it's very easy to have a tiny misconception with pretty large consequences. Personally i don't mind jokes in any direction, including my own, so i probably would've reacted differently to sexist jokes then your experiences in Sweden. From the blog, it almost seemed as if the males were ashamed of their taste regarding those jokes, which seems awkawar in the first place, but also a bit funny from my perspective.

But what i'm really interested in: have you noticed any (negative) consequences of those jokes in the presentation? I don't really know the context, of course, but you might have gotten some impressions on businessrelated cases that somehow relate to the presentation. I'm very curious as to how things turned out.
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