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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
February 18 2014 09:18 GMT
#221
Kudos Jinro !!! xD
*burp*
Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
February 18 2014 10:57 GMT
#222
How people could argue that the game was better than before, i will never understand.

Just think about it, Nestea vs sC semi final game, MMA vs DRG final. Those were from the greatest era and nothing has come up recently that can even be compared to those games. Theres just no style, no surprises and rivalry to speak off that excites you. Everyday, its just random korean wins or even worse, random korean with great defensive play(Boring)(Rain) wins.

I mean the stream numbers and games played does not lie. SEA server is pretty much dead and US server doesnt seem to be as active as before, at least not in the Masters+ bracket which i play in. So no, its a good blog, but your being way too optimistic.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 18 2014 11:00 GMT
#223
On February 18 2014 19:57 Shortizz wrote:
How people could argue that the game was better than before, i will never understand.

Just think about it, Nestea vs sC semi final game, MMA vs DRG final. Those were from the greatest era and nothing has come up recently that can even be compared to those games. Theres just no style, no surprises and rivalry to speak off that excites you. Everyday, its just random korean wins or even worse, random korean with great defensive play(Boring)(Rain) wins.

I mean the stream numbers and games played does not lie. SEA server is pretty much dead and US server doesnt seem to be as active as before, at least not in the Masters+ bracket which i play in. So no, its a good blog, but your being way too optimistic.

have you watched any games recently?
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Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
February 18 2014 12:04 GMT
#224
On February 18 2014 19:57 Shortizz wrote:
How people could argue that the game was better than before, i will never understand.

Just think about it, Nestea vs sC semi final game, MMA vs DRG final. Those were from the greatest era and nothing has come up recently that can even be compared to those games. Theres just no style, no surprises and rivalry to speak off that excites you. Everyday, its just random korean wins or even worse, random korean with great defensive play(Boring)(Rain) wins.

I mean the stream numbers and games played does not lie. SEA server is pretty much dead and US server doesnt seem to be as active as before, at least not in the Masters+ bracket which i play in. So no, its a good blog, but your being way too optimistic.


You obviously didn't watch Polts games at IEM last weekend. Quite a bit better than Nestea vs Sc for sure. And for the record...Marine King and Parting at the team league finals and Marine King's multiple battles with DRG where better than either of the things you mentioned as well.

You are either trolling or not even watching and just making stuff up.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
February 18 2014 12:57 GMT
#225
On February 16 2014 04:25 Heyoka wrote:
That's why all this is so frustrating to read the hate on TL/reddit. SC2 as a game has never been better yet all people want to do is whine.

At least some people get it.

swing the bloody axe hammer and let there be blood!
great to see it's working out for Jinro!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 18 2014 13:24 GMT
#226
Best post on TL in years!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
February 18 2014 13:53 GMT
#227
You're a boss, thanks for updating. I remember your dedication from before SC2 and its awesome that everything is working out for you.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
February 18 2014 14:29 GMT
#228
Thank you Jinro.

I have been saying this for a while now. SC2 is awesome. Anyone who watched ANY of IEM Cologne this weekend will know that. Finals was totally bonkers.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
February 18 2014 16:10 GMT
#229
I kiss you killer gorilla terran
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Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
February 18 2014 16:15 GMT
#230
so refreshing to read something like this... I seriously can not stand so many whiners! its like if they play like they always do and dont win then the other race is OP... Learn to evolve your game people! that was the only real thing driving me away from SC2.... not the game but the people playing that game.

THanks Jinro!! and hope you do well in MMA
www.twitch.tv/jornada28 Master Protoss. Follow me on Twitter for SC2 Updates https://twitter.com/#!/elelvlent
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
February 18 2014 16:26 GMT
#231
Jinro, I'm not disagreeing that SC2 is somewhat "better," but many people have been saying that SC2 has been a terrible esport (compared to SC:BW) since it first came out. The question is, is it now "good." In my opinion, no not really. I still prefer Brood War many times over.

Are there people that do like SC2 in its current form? Yes, absolutely. More power to them. They will get to enjoy it. But think of all the disgruntled voices you don't hear: namely, everyone that wanted to love SC2, didn't, and have now given up on it. I for one rarely post in SC2 threads anymore because I've mostly stopped following it.

My point is, I think the whining (because I admit it is whining) is still somewhat valid. Some people, like myself, really hope blizzard makes major changes to the game. It took me a while to realize they weren't/aren't going to, so I recently stopped posting (for the most part), but I think many of the whiners are well-intentioned people who still hold out hope.

I guess it is unfortunate for people that do like SC2 to have to deal with the constant whining (sorry guys), but people are entitled to their opinions, and I think it is very understandable for fans to want change in SC2.

Anyway, again it's just my opinion.
TheJestOne
Profile Joined March 2013
United States11 Posts
February 18 2014 19:03 GMT
#232
Great read Jinro, thanks for this bit of optimism. As someone who follows MMA closely, plays/follows SC2, and has played poker for supplemental income for years, learning this stuff about you has made me a fan for life. I'll be rooting for you in your first fight, good luck!

I have a few questions if you care to answer (and completely understand if not):

What do you consider your fighting style (if you have one yet)? Stand and trade or look to get the fight to the floor?

What stakes do you play?

Again thanks for sharing all this stuff, and good luck in your endeavors!
Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
February 18 2014 19:20 GMT
#233
Hey Jinro,

I noticed in this read you mentioned that the only map you don't really care for is Habitation Station. I was wondering what your opinion on that map is and why it's the only one out of the pool that you prefer not to play on. Is it the golds? The close air distances? Just wondering! I neeeeed the feedback!!!!!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
February 18 2014 20:00 GMT
#234
This was an awesome blog, Jinro. Now how about a vlog? :D
Mr. President.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
February 18 2014 20:21 GMT
#235
Never thought negativity could bring up something good. But I guess if people saw all this dead game stuff and then watched the recent IEM all their mouthes would hang open in amazement.
Thank you for this point of view ^.^
DimAslan
Profile Joined February 2014
Greece1 Post
February 18 2014 22:07 GMT
#236
Truth is that in any Sport or eSport for that matter, this will happen.
Players want to win, not be flashy. Builds are more solid now, competition is stronger and you cannot afford to just do whatever to win. Starcraft was always like chess, and now it's even more so, build orders and execution will win games rather than 50 banelings rolling that will make people cheer.
Watch football. Brazillian players would do amazing stuff, but everyone else is playing solid rather that amazing.
Formula 1, UFC, you name it. Everything is exciting at first, mainly because it's full of mistakes and danger, which makes them exciting to watch.
I remember UFC 1 through 50 and I see UFC now. Everyone is doing BJJ now.
LoveSC2
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 18 2014 22:15 GMT
#237
On February 19 2014 07:07 DimAslan wrote:
Truth is that in any Sport or eSport for that matter, this will happen.
Players want to win, not be flashy. Builds are more solid now, competition is stronger and you cannot afford to just do whatever to win. Starcraft was always like chess, and now it's even more so, build orders and execution will win games rather than 50 banelings rolling that will make people cheer.
Watch football. Brazillian players would do amazing stuff, but everyone else is playing solid rather that amazing.
Formula 1, UFC, you name it. Everything is exciting at first, mainly because it's full of mistakes and danger, which makes them exciting to watch.
I remember UFC 1 through 50 and I see UFC now. Everyone is doing BJJ now.

I have a suspicion that JD might have been showing off in one or two of his games, but I could be wrong
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 19 2014 01:55 GMT
#238
It's easy to remember the best parts of the past and feel the past is better. However, it's also easier to be excited to watch SC2 if you take long breaks.

People are negative because there's a void where a better game could be, and many don't want to settle for mobas or SC2 as it is.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 02:18:38
February 19 2014 02:17 GMT
#239
On February 19 2014 04:20 SidianTheBard wrote:
Hey Jinro,

I noticed in this read you mentioned that the only map you don't really care for is Habitation Station. I was wondering what your opinion on that map is and why it's the only one out of the pool that you prefer not to play on. Is it the golds? The close air distances? Just wondering! I neeeeed the feedback!!!!!

I just feel its slightly bland aesthetically, and the least modern map in the pool. Still not bad.

Feels a bit like echo isles from wc3, come to think of it.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 02:53:03
February 19 2014 02:24 GMT
#240
On February 19 2014 04:03 TheJestOne wrote:
Great read Jinro, thanks for this bit of optimism. As someone who follows MMA closely, plays/follows SC2, and has played poker for supplemental income for years, learning this stuff about you has made me a fan for life. I'll be rooting for you in your first fight, good luck!

I have a few questions if you care to answer (and completely understand if not):

What do you consider your fighting style (if you have one yet)? Stand and trade or look to get the fight to the floor?

What stakes do you play?

Again thanks for sharing all this stuff, and good luck in your endeavors!

I wouldnt say I have a style exactly... but individual component wise: im pretty good on the ground both off my back and on top, my striking is a bit lacking when it comes to stringing together combinations but ive got a decent jab and good reach.My double legs are pretty bad (just cant seem to get the timing right when sparring) and I generally prefer clinch takedowns or trips.

My by far strongest attribute is my cardio, I'm basically an energizer bunny.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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