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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
February 16 2014 22:21 GMT
#181
Man, and again Jaedong fans completely flip their shit when he loses. Maybe it's because he has so many fans and they can be more overbearing then others but exactly the same thing happened in the LR's for DH Summer and WCS America last year. The moment he's beaten the entire LR just descends into vile balance whine and even hate for the player who won (everyone saying the want Polt to destroy Hero, a little ironic considering what the same type of people were saying about Polt in the WCS America LR all those months ago). This is then exacerbated by the tagalongs just copying what everyone else is saying and the trolls baiting them into continuing their rants.

Completely ruins what was, up until that point, a great LR thread for what has been the best tournament I've seen in a very long time.
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1003 Posts
February 16 2014 23:34 GMT
#182
Great blog mate! Couldn't agree more.

For the many people responding to this blog by restating issues with the game I really think you missed the point. I see this as a cry to appreciate all the greatness of what we have in starcraft. If all discourse on the state of the game was calm and balanced rather than spiraling into huge negative spirals this blog wouldn't be necessary. But due to the hysterical complaints going on at the moment it's important to take a step back and look at how far SC2 has come, how much more active the map is, how much more micro and variety of strategy and how AMAZING so many of the games are!
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Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
February 16 2014 23:40 GMT
#183
Great blog man! Really happy to see you still writing. The MMA stuff is awesome too. :D Make sure you update us when you have your first fight.

As for the "dead game" shit, I honestly feel like it was a bandwagon gone wrong. Initially it was a sarcastic response to the whole "League of Legends gets more viewers than SC2" whinge. It snowballed out of control so heavily that people seem to have actually given it some credibility. I saw people on the DotA2 subreddit last week talking about how SC2 is a dead game and how r/starcraft is a ghost town, besides the weekly pro retiring. This whole "inside joke" has gone too far and inherently slapped a negative label on the whole community. Pretty annoying!

But I agree with your blog entirely. The game is healthy, flourishing and more entertaining than ever. I really hope people can look past the LoL/SC2 comparison someday.
@NvDox | Plantronics Nv: Rossi . mOOnGLaDe . deth . JazBas | @NvSC2 | @NvCoD | @NvLeague | @NvHearthstone | @NvDotA2 | @PLT_MF
Whitley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States238 Posts
February 16 2014 23:41 GMT
#184
Nice blog Jinro! I couldn't agreed more. I've recently played more 1v1 starcraft in a really long time and am having a ton of fun again!

good luck with MMA!
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
February 16 2014 23:56 GMT
#185
Thank you. I think the community could really use more of this.
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
February 17 2014 01:56 GMT
#186
After watching IEM Cologne all I can say is

Yes.
In Somnis Veritas
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
February 17 2014 02:04 GMT
#187
On February 17 2014 04:26 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 02:53 nGBeast wrote:
Oh shit is the gorilla terran going to save terran?

I think Polt is saving terran at the moment.

Terran is never saved enough.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 02:17:27
February 17 2014 02:16 GMT
#188
my exact thoughts ...
and thats why i always want to slap like 100 guys every day for all the whine and flame for sc2


On February 17 2014 02:53 nGBeast wrote:
I think Polt is saving terran at the moment.


like that ^^ like the most successfull race in 2013 needs to be saved xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 02:21:49
February 17 2014 02:21 GMT
#189
Welp, this was prescient

Edit: albeit, my heart still hurts from the last hero vs JD game
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
February 17 2014 04:20 GMT
#190
On February 16 2014 04:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote:


But in Broodwar...

... Nobody ever balance whined... there was no turtling.... everything was perfect...

Yeah. OK. Let me google that for you.


[image loading]
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
February 17 2014 04:56 GMT
#191
man this thread makes me wanna install SC2 and play it again.. I kicked the "addiction" last year when I started playing Dota, but after watching IEM it was pretty awesome, I definitely echo what FrozenArbiter said =] Dota is so fun when you actually have a good team, but the whole idea of relying on a team if hell for someone who came from a pro/semipro SC/WC3 background... Not able to exercise your complete prowess on your opponent when you have to be paired up with idiots in matchmaking.

I'm afraid when LotV comes out, I'll probably play again.. I just can't quit for good.
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 07:44:18
February 17 2014 05:30 GMT
#192
Man, I could not watch any of the final day of IEL Cologne. Time difference and work. I'll be catching up on the vods over the next couple of hours. The LR thread (which I caught from time to time from work) made it seem like it was an awesome day of SC2. It was frustrating being at work and not being able to watch IEM (come to that it was also frustrating being at work and not being able to watch the cricket either, as NZ made one of the great comebacks against India).

I know you've been watching IEM, Jinro. I hope you enjoyed the last day's play.

And, once again, tyvm for this thread. It could not have come at a better time for the TL community (and for me). Cheers.
KT best KT ~ 2014
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
February 17 2014 05:43 GMT
#193
On February 17 2014 14:30 aZealot wrote:
Man, I could not watch any of the final day of IEL Cologne. Time difference and work. I'll be catching up on the vods over the next couple of hours. The LR thread (which I caught from time to time from work) made it seem like it was an awesome day of SC2. It was frustrating being at work and not being able to watch IEM (come to that it was also frustrating being at work and not being able to watch the cricket either, as NZ made one of the great comebacks against India).

I know you've been watching IEM, Jinro. I hope you enjoyed the last day's play.

And, once again, tyvm for this thread. It could not have come at a better time for the TL community (and for me). Cheers.


I am actually, physically, jealous of you for being able to watch all of those matches for the first time. You're in for a treat!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 17 2014 06:15 GMT
#194
On February 17 2014 13:20 skindzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 04:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote:


But in Broodwar...

... Nobody ever balance whined... there was no turtling.... everything was perfect...

Yeah. OK. Let me google that for you.


[image loading]

Hahahaha

Thanks, I remember this picture :D (FA is me btw - my old old old ID, FrozenArbiter, for those that dont know)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
IMScientist
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy125 Posts
February 17 2014 09:35 GMT
#195
Amazing post, i took a break from playing sc2 and watching for 6 months and got back 2 weeks ago,watched iem and i can't believe the lvl of play especially from Polt all the drops 3,4 attacks at the same time when i thought he had lost he proved me wrong,the same goes for JD.
This guy plays like he was sent down from heavens
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
February 17 2014 10:45 GMT
#196
Hmm this has made me want to watch again. Watched so much starcraft 2 in the first 2 years (2010-2011), bought tickets etc. Then it slowly died off as many of my fav players (including you Jinro) left the scene, and LoL then later Dota 2 took precedent. I noticed GSL is getting streamed via twitch now as well, which means I could watch it on my iPad! guess its time for more Tastosis?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 17 2014 12:19 GMT
#197
On February 17 2014 07:21 Greendotz wrote:
Man, and again Jaedong fans completely flip their shit when he loses. Maybe it's because he has so many fans and they can be more overbearing then others but exactly the same thing happened in the LR's for DH Summer and WCS America last year. The moment he's beaten the entire LR just descends into vile balance whine and even hate for the player who won (everyone saying the want Polt to destroy Hero, a little ironic considering what the same type of people were saying about Polt in the WCS America LR all those months ago). This is then exacerbated by the tagalongs just copying what everyone else is saying and the trolls baiting them into continuing their rants.

Completely ruins what was, up until that point, a great LR thread for what has been the best tournament I've seen in a very long time.

I consider myself to be a huge Jaedong fan, and after having watched the replay of game 5, I simply have to say that HerO played better in that game. The warp prism / immortal micro was just insane. The game would have gone completely different if JD had managed to snipe that dreaded prism with something like 10 HP left. After JD's inefficient counterattack, HerO had caught up again. And of course, Yeonsu is just a nightmare for zerg to play against those builds. Not every Jaedong fan is a whiny bitch, I actually think that most people are pretty calm and can respect the skill of other players. It's just that those people don't post too much. They read all the balance whine, shrug and close the tab with the forum thread to enjoy the games.

I also had tons of fun watching the tournament yesterday and I have to agree with Jinro completely. SC2 may still have its flaws, but it has developed into an amazing game. If only bunkers would build five seconds faster...
first we make expand, then we defense it.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 17 2014 12:26 GMT
#198
On February 16 2014 04:20 HuK wrote:
D.S. = DICK SUCKER?


get off srsly

great blog jinro
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
February 17 2014 12:29 GMT
#199
On February 17 2014 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 13:20 skindzer wrote:
On February 16 2014 04:16 Liquid`Jinro wrote:


But in Broodwar...

... Nobody ever balance whined... there was no turtling.... everything was perfect...

Yeah. OK. Let me google that for you.


[image loading]

Hahahaha

Thanks, I remember this picture :D (FA is me btw - my old old old ID, FrozenArbiter, for those that dont know)


What is this picture about? Is it about you being an apologist for imbalance and trying to act like PvZ isn't imba?
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 17 2014 12:31 GMT
#200
This blog should be a mandatory read for everyone who balance whined the shit out of the IEM live report thread. Great work jinro. I wish you all the best for the future.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
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