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KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
January 27 2014 15:32 GMT
#1
As a player who came into the game after the first WCS season of 2013, I have never witnessed or played Wings of Liberty, today I figured, hey lets fix that. Let's see what Protoss was like pre-MSC and see how I do without my OP unit and PO.

Unlike my HoTS debut, I didn't research builds, I didn't look into strategies, I just went into the game and played, I used a little of my prior knowledge of course. Making sure I walled off against Z, scouting for early pools. Making sure I was prepared for drops against T and the usual things.

5 matches later, with 3 wins and 2 losses. I sit back and think "hey maybe I hit silver in this one, this went a ton better than all my HoTS placements!" Then it appears, my WoL league for this season.

Platinum.

I wasn't exactly sure how to react. I'd stumbled across Silver and Gold players during my matches, losing to the odd gold Zerg along the way. I decided to check nios.kr for the league distribution, which left me scratching my head even more. As of writing the WoL EU distribution is as follows:

GM: 0.04%
Masters: 0.35%
Diamond: 3.06%
Platinum: 7.89%
Gold: 23.93%
Silver: 47.60%
Bronze: 17.13%

I'm a Toss, who in HoTS is struggling to get out of Bronze League, yet in WoL I'm in the top 12% of EU players? Is WoL really that lacking in quality now or is the lack of players in WoL skewing actual skill levels? There is only around 17K players placed in WoL on the EU server as of writing.

I'm just going to sit in-game, staring at my shiny new badge for a bit before I return to my sexy shit brown coloured one for HoTS. I really feel like I should be cheering because I've accomplished something but I genuinely don't know shit about the state of WoL right now.

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Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
January 27 2014 16:07 GMT
#2
Could be a number of reasons...

1: Maybe only noobs play WoL still (lots of sub Platinum players skewing it)
2: Placement luck, normal rank will come after more games
3: You are better at WoL

"There is only around 17K players placed in WoL on the EU server as of writing."

I'd say it's probably number 1.
Praise the sun! \o/
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 27 2014 16:29 GMT
#3
ye who plays wol?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 27 2014 17:36 GMT
#4
only super casuals play wol who couldnt even be bothered to buy hots
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9183 Posts
January 27 2014 19:08 GMT
#5
that distribution sounds about right
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
January 27 2014 23:21 GMT
#6
I'm confused, how does GM still exist in WoL?
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12181 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 07:08:57
January 28 2014 07:08 GMT
#7
Hmm if GM exists on WoL it might be worth starting again so I can say I was GM...
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12906 Posts
January 28 2014 08:12 GMT
#8
GM is supposed to have taken down for WoL, Blizzard is aware of it being up again after patch 2.1 and they are looking into it apparently
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 29 2014 18:21 GMT
#9
it's likely more have moved to HoTS and as a result, there are less players in WoL. I can't say much on their level though but I figure all those in masters and up(likely same for plats, diamonds etc...) have moved on so the competition is easier? speculation though.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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