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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 31 2013 21:54 GMT
#41
or http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
September 01 2013 00:37 GMT
#42
On August 31 2013 15:17 Esoterikk wrote:
So due to wrist problems and a general malaise with Sc2 lately I am shifting focus to either LoL or Dota 2 but I can't really decide on one, I am hoping it's possible to get unbiased opinions from people but this is likely a pipe dream, let me preface this by saying if you are here to post "HURF BLURF DOTA IS MORE HARDER" just turn around please.

At the very base level I enjoy Dota more, I find the heroes and spells more discernible and I find the game much more immersive where I actually feel connected to my hero where as LoL kind of feels disconnected where I am aware I am playing a game. However, I also really enjoy laddering, it gives me a reason to get better and since I know I will never be a pro gamer climbing the ladder is my own personal form of achievement.

Honestly the lack of a ladder or competitive matchmaking is really turning me away from Dota right now.

I can't turn around without seeing League these days, all my friends who game play League and aren't interested in Dota so right off the bat I am far more likely to have fun games with friends in League, most of the streamers i watch play League (Destiny, Hafu and some of my favorite Sc2 streamers do LoL in the off time).

So here I am, I have reasons to enjoy both games, I will likely devote the next 2-3 years trying to improve at the game and I enjoy taking other peoples thoughts into account when making personal decisions, so is there any possibility I can get some unbiased thoughts on the 2 games?


Ive played dota since it existed and i dont play lol because I find it incredibly boring and easy so obviously im biased but whatever

I wrote a list of pros and cons but since you play both games and people already did that I deleted it and I'll just give you my biased opinion.

If you're just playing to have fun with your friends I would suggest playing LoL. The player base is so huge that im sure there are many people at your level who you can have fun with. Its harder to have fun with my friends when I play dota since im the best player in my uni and theres only 3-4 other competent players, while theres 30 or so bad ones. In comparison there's around 50 fairly good league players and 1000 or so bad ones.

If you want to get better at a game, I would highly recommend you play dota since i feel there's a lot more to get better at. I have no experience with high level league though so what do I know. If you like dota more from the get-go then i suggest you stick with it. If you really need a visible ranking then theres a few ihls which are popular. In the US the most popular one is IXDL. IXDL-Open skill level isnt very high but if you're decent you can get into ixdl-i which is where the good players reside
In Mushi we trust
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12002 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 06:11:54
September 01 2013 06:07 GMT
#43
On September 01 2013 06:54 Warri wrote:
or http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php


That has a 300 game requirement. For a new player that means 3 months before joining.

Wait I read that wrong, 300 wins it is, so 5+ months.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 01 2013 06:18 GMT
#44
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
deathray797
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
196 Posts
September 02 2013 06:45 GMT
#45
So many people saying to play the game which your friends play.

I want to kill all my friends when I play with them :/
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 02 2013 08:15 GMT
#46
On September 02 2013 15:45 deathray797 wrote:
So many people saying to play the game which your friends play.

I want to kill all my friends when I play with them :/


Actually, I do find it more difficult (I guess draining might be a better word) to play with friends. It feels like I just spend more energy on the game due to all the communication going on and being aware of more things than I'm normally aware of.

Every now and then I play solo queue just to chill.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
September 02 2013 08:40 GMT
#47
I really don't like mobas and only played LoL for 5 hours or so but I can comment on sharing a hobby with friends.

It's great if you have similar expectations or are similarly competitive about it otherwise it gets frustrating and old quite fast.
Happened to me in team-oriented PC games before where I was by far the highest skilled out of the group and got frustrated with all the mistakes they made.
Happened to me when I made a band with some buddies but for me it was just about jamming once a week and if I didn't feel like practicing I didn't do it at all, while some other bandmates wanted to play on stages and got frustrated that I didn't practice our songs :D

So I'd say go for LoL if your friends are similarly competitive like you are and otherwise go for dota since it seems you like the game itself more.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 08:57:54
September 02 2013 08:50 GMT
#48
I had the same issue as you a few months ago..I really liked dota, but got bored a bit.

I felt like there was nothing to play for, lack of a ladder/structure, and a matchmaking system where there are some people who do not even know the basics of a moba game ruin the entire game for 9 others.

Decided to try LoL, and some of the above problems were rectified (ladder, better matchmaking...for most part). But the game itself didnt feel as great, I really liked dota better: itemization, heroes, graphics etc. Got back to playing dota again after the international..but the same issues are back.

And the sad part is there is nothing like ixdl or whatever for sea.. So until valve fixes something, it's going to be like this.

Edit: Actually thinking about it..there is a team match making ladder, but I dont know anyone else that plays dota or other PC games :/ It's understandable that team matchmaking is *the* ladder, because a ladder is meant for serious players...and a serious game in dota is an arranged team. Besides solo matchmaking is probably not a very measure of skill in a dota game. So I understand valves issue with a solo ladder, but it would still be kinda fun to have one in there.
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
September 02 2013 20:38 GMT
#49
I play Dota 2 on occasion and i like it but playing it alone with team mates who don't speak your language and don't take it seriously ( as in at least click something and not d/c...) can be infuriating and a huge waste of time.
Assuming that both games have similar issues i would go for LoL since your friends already play it, simple as that.
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
September 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#50
On August 31 2013 16:28 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 15:42 Talin wrote:
No, it is not possible to get unbiased opinions.

You already seem to have enough information to go with and both games are free and easily accessible to try anyway. Unless the idea of the thread is to get people from two camps to fight over your "allegiance", you already have everything you need to make your own call on what you want to play.


It's more a I can't make this decision, I want to play Dota but I don't like not laddering, it feels like wasted time and I don't really know what to do. Play the game I prefer or play the game that has the systems I enjoy in place.


If it's 50/50, flip a coin.
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Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
September 03 2013 05:25 GMT
#51
If you'd ask more particular questions, people might be able to help. But it seems that...
On August 31 2013 15:42 Talin wrote:
No, it is not possible to get unbiased opinions.

You already seem to have enough information to go with and both games are free and easily accessible to try anyway. Unless the idea of the thread is to get people from two camps to fight over your "allegiance", you already have everything you need to make your own call on what you want to play.


Amen
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
September 03 2013 06:42 GMT
#52
On September 03 2013 14:25 Sejanus wrote:
If you'd ask more particular questions, people might be able to help. But it seems that...
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 15:42 Talin wrote:
No, it is not possible to get unbiased opinions.

You already seem to have enough information to go with and both games are free and easily accessible to try anyway. Unless the idea of the thread is to get people from two camps to fight over your "allegiance", you already have everything you need to make your own call on what you want to play.


Amen


Is it worth playing a game I don't like as much for something I enjoy like a ladder, I prefer Dota but can stand LoL, I look forward to playing dota but I also look forward to laddering.

Hopefully that is a little more specific.
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
September 03 2013 09:15 GMT
#53
Just play the game your friends play. It's not a hard choice to make. You can attempt to play dota at a competitive level for fun (like, make a team and sign for some tourney or play team match making), but that requires a lot more effort on your part. There are some slight measurements of skill in Dota (normal/high/vhigh brackets), but that's not as clear as in LoL (with divisions and stuff)

In my honest opinion solo queues are crooked as fuck anyway. There's always that one player that messes up for everyone, and you're never going to see that player again. In a team it doesn't matter if someone messes up, because the player will learn from it and do better next time (well, hopefully).

Both games are so different from StarCraft because of the team aspect. For the best experience you probably want to pick up one game as five people, and just start learning the game as five. That way you have full control over your skill measurement
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
September 03 2013 11:50 GMT
#54
On September 01 2013 04:07 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 22:06 Zealos wrote:
On August 31 2013 17:04 Shottaz wrote:
LOL
+Items are more intersting

hmmm.

Yeah I love LoL but this is kinda lols.


I was speaking from a name/picture perspective. Evidently you both disagree, which is cool.
Praise the sun! \o/
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
September 03 2013 13:14 GMT
#55
just play whatever your friends play
no one actually gives a shit which game is better
just which game is more fun
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
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