• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:27
CET 21:27
KST 05:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win
Tourneys
SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ sOs joins Best's team, Newcatsle University SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stratus: Battle for the sky now on steam Early acc Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9013 users

Dota matchmaking got me down - Page 2

Blogs > pullarius1
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
August 12 2013 13:20 GMT
#21
That moment when you just pray your supports just buys a courier, not even wards. And they dont
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
August 12 2013 13:30 GMT
#22
I thought I was at the very bottom of the MMR pool. But even I havent seen dagon KOTL and 6 crys PA... Its ridiculous that the system punishes you so hard for playing a specific role
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 12 2013 13:46 GMT
#23
On August 12 2013 14:42 5-s wrote:
There's no such thing as support until you're consistently very high bracket, sorry to say it. And believe me, any of the "hard support" players on even mediocre teams will get to very high extremely easily not by playing "full support", but by either getting kills or farming.

Even in high I get supports that genuinely support.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
August 12 2013 14:52 GMT
#24
it's funny when you play single draft / random draft and everyone decides to pick hard carry instead of building a good team comp. dota isnt very fun when you don't have a party. what's your steam id?!
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 12 2013 14:53 GMT
#25
On August 12 2013 23:52 Metal[x] wrote:
it's funny when you play single draft / random draft and everyone decides to pick hard carry instead of building a good team comp. dota isnt very fun when you don't have a party. what's your steam id?!


This is why I quit Dota recently, no friends who play the game makes it one of the most frustrating experiences I have ever been a part of.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 15:09:31
August 12 2013 15:15 GMT
#26
On August 12 2013 23:53 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 23:52 Metal[x] wrote:
it's funny when you play single draft / random draft and everyone decides to pick hard carry instead of building a good team comp. dota isnt very fun when you don't have a party. what's your steam id?!


This is why I quit Dota recently, no friends who play the game makes it one of the most frustrating experiences I have ever been a part of.


This is how I feel. Theres just not enough english speakers playing on SEA at my (very low) level. I feel like I'm just gonna have to give up playing dota
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 17:53 GMT
#27
@OP seems like the obvious (if painful for your goal) solution is to get good at one or two carries and just farm your way back into high before you start playing support again. Otherwise you will probably never reach your "appropriate" mmr.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2013 18:23 GMT
#28
On August 12 2013 22:20 woreyour wrote:
That moment when you just pray your supports just buys a courier, not even wards. And they dont

You don’t play with me enough. I will buy courier and wards all day if you give me Visage. I don’t need anything but that and maybe some better boots until the match gets going. Supports who steal farm are just confused and think they can do something productive with the Dagon they are going to buy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
August 12 2013 19:28 GMT
#29
plansix wanna play?! :D
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
August 13 2013 11:00 GMT
#30
If you haven't really broken into very high, you can't really have good expectations of your team, OR of yourself. I'm like mid-very-high and I still get games with no wards bought lvl 1, tri lanes that don't understand double-pulling or zoning off laners etc. The thing is, the only constant in these games is yourself. Even if you think you are playing an awesome support and it's your team that doesn't know how to play, there are 100s of little things that you could've done better. Maybe it would've resulted in a win, maybe it was unwinnable. But if you are truly playing to improve yourself you can only focus on the constants, not the uncontrollable variables.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Coledash
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland23 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 19:16:54
August 13 2013 19:14 GMT
#31
On August 13 2013 20:00 EchelonTee wrote:
If you haven't really broken into very high, you can't really have good expectations of your team, OR of yourself. I'm like mid-very-high and I still get games with no wards bought lvl 1, tri lanes that don't understand double-pulling or zoning off laners etc. The thing is, the only constant in these games is yourself. Even if you think you are playing an awesome support and it's your team that doesn't know how to play, there are 100s of little things that you could've done better. Maybe it would've resulted in a win, maybe it was unwinnable. But if you are truly playing to improve yourself you can only focus on the constants, not the uncontrollable variables.


This is so much true.

OP, if I understood you right your goal was to learn, not win games. If pro support players would have been in your position, do you think they would have had any problems taking out the "horrible players who are for no good reason in my matchmaking game"?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 13 2013 19:46 GMT
#32
Supporting in pubs needs some serious masochism unless you're in the upper area of very high. =P

Supporting in tmm however... just needs a bit of masochism. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
August 14 2013 09:00 GMT
#33
On August 14 2013 04:46 r.Evo wrote:
Supporting in pubs needs some serious masochism unless you're in the upper area of very high. =P

Supporting in tmm however... just needs a bit of masochism. <3


Not really. Just be a hero with a stun (supports without stuns pretty much suck in pubs with only a few exceptions) and walk around on the map slaying people. The lower MMR you are the lesser the chance of wards that spot you. Make sure to ping a lot before going because pub players who are farming rarely notice anything else. If people don't follow up on your stuns, start trashtalking (if you're into that) and tell yourself your team sucked when you lose. It helps.

I only play real support (you know wards, runes, all that jazz) for people I stack with or for players who communicate with me in a positive manner in game. And carry players, it's not much. "Pull plz," "tango plz." Little things that show you're aware about the game and are trying to win.

But the real secret is to just play and have fun, then the wins come on their own. IMO obsessing too much about matchmaking only makes you mad, and mad people play like shit. That is fundamental truth.
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
02:00
FSL season 12 opener: HM vs ST
Liquipedia
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
RO4
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Quarterfinals
TaKeTV 434
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 22
EnDerr 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 186
ZZZero.O 77
Hyun 53
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
420jenkins359
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby2946
Liquid`Hasu392
Other Games
tarik_tv6298
B2W.Neo1573
FrodaN641
PiGStarcraft316
Fuzer 244
Pyrionflax120
XaKoH 94
NeuroSwarm87
Mew2King49
Railgan26
Chillindude19
summit1g9
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1114
gamesdonequick615
BasetradeTV150
Counter-Strike
PGL86
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 22
EmSc2Tv 22
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 89
• printf 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2368
• Jankos1888
Other Games
• imaqtpie1001
• Shiphtur393
• WagamamaTV391
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
14h 33m
IPSL
20h 33m
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-05
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.