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Summer Struggles 2013

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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 16:36:46
August 07 2013 16:23 GMT
#1
I used to like writing blogs. I don't know what happened in the last year or so, but I detached myself from the community - I stopped writing blogs and reading other peoples stuff, sc2 became a bit stale so I lost interest following all the tournaments. Of course because of my position in the TL Staff its impossible to isolate myself. I still love my store work and I'm as motivated as ever, but I feel like I lost connection to the community - I closed myself in the store ivory tower, working on projects just to show up in a news post. Nazgul demands from me to write my own news posts and to stop asking Wax or Heyoka to do it for me. I feel intimidated writing official stuff for TL, so I figured it's a nice practice to write blogs, just to go over my isolation from the community, perhaps even create a personality for myself (I used to have one - biggest Bisu fan on TL). I think its important for the store manager to be close to the community, to understand what the TLers need, what they want to have...

Anyways, writing blogs is about sharing stuff and being opened to whoever decides to invest her or his time reading. So this blog is about my struggles this summer. Struggles normally come from various reasons - lack of knowledge or ability as well as things just going wrong because of bad luck. We all enjoy moving forward and being successful, but struggles are particularly tiring cause you start feeling as if all your time is invested into solving problems instead of progressing in a certain direction. The summer is my least favorite season - I didn't have a proper vacation and time off for the last 4-5 years. By the time I'm done with my uni exams its already mid August so my only window to sea sand, music festivals and travels are mostly other peoples facebook accounts and the pictures they upload while I'm in the library studying something I don't like.

1. School
It's so easy to whine about school and exams, I guess over 75% of all students do not like their studies or straight up hate them. I envy everyone else who do love what they are doing, but for me studies in the last 5 years were a constant never ending struggle. It's not that I didn't find anything useful or interesting, but it was just never enough to hold my complete attention and to make me invest all my time and energy. Luckily this is my last semester before I write my thesis. I have only 2 or 3 exams depending on my last results which I'm still waiting for. I can feel the end coming, it makes me joyful and excited, but at the same time impatient as well. I just want to graduate already...

2. Dota
In order to revitalize my interest for esports I decided to start playing dota. That game is hard but surprisingly I find it very enjoyable and a lot less stressful than Starcraft. I fucking suck at the game and I only play Limited Heroes. In the past few days I went like 1-12 basically feeding in half of the games or losing close games whenever I play alright. For some reason people always blame their losses on me though, its been 2 weeks since I picked dota and this is starting to happen just now. I'm playing mostly Lion, trying to support my team mates, but whenever we lose everyone jumps on me 'fkn lion no items, I will report you' or 'cyka' and all the other russian words I actually laugh when people insult me with cause I like the russian language and russian guys in general. 'Why not tp for the fight' 'use your stun, I couldve survived the fight' and all that jazz but my favorite is 'fkn lion why no wards'. We all know you can only place that many wards and its really amazing how people complain about getting ganged while wandering alone in the dewarded side of the map... But all that aside I can't understand what people expect from teammates in a Limited Hero game ? I really don't know why anyone has to pretend they are good at the game while playing in match making mode designed for newbies who need to get used to a handful of heroes and the games basics.

Dota is amazing though, just as SC its very economical, not only in the sense of optimizing income and items but also purely from game theory's perspective. There are so many interaction models and theories finding application in Dota, its very fascinating. Maybe I can't last hit, pull creeps and so on, but I find the game interesting and enjoyable, at the end that's what matters. Dota is a struggle for me, but this time, for a change I like struggling.

3. Work
There are many things happening in the store behind the curtains. The most simple things take a lot of energy and effort to get right, especially when you depend on someone else to get the job done. Lately everything I do is marked by problems and unpredictable issues. I won't go in details, but I just wish we make a shirt or something else without a single problem once - that will be awesome. But I guess that's the defining part of this job, you can never be prepared for everything that can go wrong, unfortunately the learning curve is marked by a lot of mistakes and learning from them. It's a very dynamic environment this, but it's yet another struggle.

I have a very specific vision for the TL store. I was very much into skating back in the day, watched a lot of competition whenever those were available to watch, did some skating myself too. But the most fascinating thing about skating imo is the subculture it spawned - all the apparel companies and lifestyle. Brands like Globe Vans, DC and so on all have cult status now and are very much recognizable to people who don't skate. That said I see no reason why this can't happen with games and esports. I don't think there are more skaters out there than gamers, we just need to express ourselves. Apparel is one of the best things to do it. Why wearing a shirt with a skate board brand logo is ok, and more socially acceptable than wearing a shirt with a gaming artwork or esports organization logo ?

There's this fixation in the community that you are buying or must buy the merchandise of a specific esports organization to support them. Supporting is nice of course and the store side is very important for teamliquid as a business. But I think the sole motivation for buying a shirt or a hoodie ever is because you like it - simple as that. I want TL to make desirable items, products without a compromise in quality, products no worse than anything you are buying in the skate shop or anywhere else. My approach to doing TL products is always to make them as good as we possibly can, never to cut corners, cause that's the only way to create some brand confidence and to get people to buy TL stuff not only to support us, but because they like the product and want to express themselves with it. I really understand people's complains about some of our items being beyond their budget and what they are willing to spend for a TL product. But at the same time I realize the reason for the complains is that the products are not desirable enough. In my mind you will always buy a 20$ shirt if you like it, especially a shirt that is of fine quality and that you are going to wear almost every day. At the end I want people to make their choices based on weather they like something or not, but in order to get to a state where everyone buys esports apparel to express themselves we have to struggle creating brand identity and confidence...

I guess I can go on about esports lifestyle and apparel forever, its a useful discussion to have - one I really want to hear what the community thinks. Do you envision a world where people wear stylish TL polo shirts at work, or go out on a friday night with a cool EG hoodie on?



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Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
August 07 2013 17:51 GMT
#2
want... a... new... TEAMSHIRT!
maybe partner up with DC to make liquid shoes? :D
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
August 07 2013 19:02 GMT
#3
For non-plain shirts, I really like very understated logos. e.g. I'd waaay prefer a nice shirt with a small TL horse somewhere on the chest than a shirt with a big graphic, player name, or team name inked over it.

Do you envision a world where people wear stylish TL polo shirts at work, or go out on a friday night with a cool EG hoodie on?

I could definitely imagine someone wearing a polo with a small TL horse on the chest. I'm imaging something like a stereotypical Ralph Lauren polo, only instead of the little horse + polo player logo it would be a little TL horse logo (same size proportions!)

I could see this turning out nice, with a TL horse instead of RL horse:
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Even this, with a South Korean flag, obviously (unless you are Cloud, in which case Italy works):
[image loading]
I dislike the larger size of the horse logo here though. Prefer the smaller more understated look.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
August 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#4
Hey, I don't have much time to play but add me on steam (id: kurtistheturtle) for dota. As you kind of know, the game is so massive and complex I can't effectively "teach" you, but I can give you answers and perspective to questions you might have that only come through years of experience. (and I can show you how to practice/measure mechanics really well!)
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
August 08 2013 02:56 GMT
#5
lion was my most played hero too when I first started playing dota. Luckily I never got flamed for not warding and such because I played on Garena where you can still win comfortably without doing those "try hard" things
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 08 2013 08:54 GMT
#6
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yecatsxe
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom1 Post
August 08 2013 16:17 GMT
#7
On August 08 2013 04:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:
For non-plain shirts, I really like very understated logos. e.g. I'd waaay prefer a nice shirt with a small TL horse somewhere on the chest than a shirt with a big graphic, player name, or team name inked over it.

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Do you envision a world where people wear stylish TL polo shirts at work, or go out on a friday night with a cool EG hoodie on?

I could definitely imagine someone wearing a polo with a small TL horse on the chest. I'm imaging something like a stereotypical Ralph Lauren polo, only instead of the little horse + polo player logo it would be a little TL horse logo (same size proportions!)

I could see this turning out nice, with a TL horse instead of RL horse:
[image loading]

Even this, with a South Korean flag, obviously (unless you are Cloud, in which case Italy works):
[image loading]
I dislike the larger size of the horse logo here though. Prefer the smaller more understated look.



Agreed, I prefer minimal designs. However it is always nice to have a vary of slightly more creative things in store, so you target more than one audience so to speak.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 08 2013 17:12 GMT
#8
Yeah the team shirt I'm looking forward to a ton, and a polo like that would be amazing :3 And yes, agreed entirely: the merchandise should be able to stand on its own merits as well! I think that's an admirable goal to have for sure, and recently the quality of the stuff in the store has been fantastic.

Out of curiosity, what do you study, disciple? Graphic design? Operations? Hang in there >.<
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32154 Posts
August 08 2013 17:17 GMT
#9
I think the analogy to esports swag to skater clothing is good. I dont own anything myself, but I've always envisioned it being graphic tees, hoodies, etc. Slapping any kinda stuff like that on a polo or something more fancy would feel like slapping the logo of your favorite sports team on a polo. I dunno, just feels kinda outta place

hope you get motivated again! I always enjoy your blogs!
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shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
August 08 2013 21:08 GMT
#10
You can get there go go go!
Graphics@shiroiusagi_ | shiroiusagi.net
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 08 2013 23:15 GMT
#11
On August 09 2013 02:12 Aerisky wrote:
Yeah the team shirt I'm looking forward to a ton, and a polo like that would be amazing :3 And yes, agreed entirely: the merchandise should be able to stand on its own merits as well! I think that's an admirable goal to have for sure, and recently the quality of the stuff in the store has been fantastic.

Out of curiosity, what do you study, disciple? Graphic design? Operations? Hang in there >.<

Political Economy, I want to rule countries.
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