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Can we PLEASE get a useful fucking Hydralisk yet?

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Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 12:07:40
July 31 2013 06:10 GMT
#1
I, for some reason, am an idiot.

I keep trying to make hydralisks work.

Somewhere in my mind, I figure, Blizzards buffed them in HotS, hell, last week they even called them the most successful HotS unit, so I just keep using them, because I'm a moron...


Hydras STILL are a siege unit that has to get into close combat range to be useful.

The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells. (edit: and isn't invisible, or have huge splash damage)

The Hydra is a fucking terrible unit, fucking fix it.

*
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
BadgerWatch
Profile Joined February 2011
67 Posts
July 31 2013 06:20 GMT
#2
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:
I, for some reason, am an idiot.


The rest of your post just explained why.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 31 2013 06:20 GMT
#3
I have Blizzard on hold right now.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 31 2013 06:23 GMT
#4
Blizzard, hire this man please!
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 17:50:40
July 31 2013 06:28 GMT
#5
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
July 31 2013 06:38 GMT
#6
Make sure to combine them with Vipers and buffer units (Roaches or Swarm Hosts) for maximum effect.

Also, they are crucial in ZvZ... they are great against Roaches (as long as you have Roach support too), and they allow you to push out against Mutalisks.
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MarklarMarklarr
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Fiji226 Posts
July 31 2013 06:55 GMT
#7
I just build drones
Hello there
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
July 31 2013 07:03 GMT
#8
hydralisks are insecure animals

they need zerglings and roaches and vipers and such to pal around with

and to get blown up or cut in half so the hydralisk doesn't

only then will the hydralisk trust you and show you the awesome power of the hydralisk
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Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
July 31 2013 07:04 GMT
#9
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 31 2013 07:18 GMT
#10
On July 31 2013 16:04 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.


archons have 10hp
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 31 2013 07:26 GMT
#11
On July 31 2013 16:18 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 16:04 Jermstuddog wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.


archons have 10hp

Haha!
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
July 31 2013 07:39 GMT
#12
I dunno why they fucked with the zerg race all together so much in this game. It is far less zergy. Which is supposed to be mainly cheap, plentiful, throwaway style units.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 31 2013 07:49 GMT
#13
a useful corrupter
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10227 Posts
July 31 2013 07:54 GMT
#14
On July 31 2013 15:55 MarklarMarklarr wrote:
I just build drones

huk is tryin to out mine me...
but he'll never out mine me.
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MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
July 31 2013 08:16 GMT
#15
On July 31 2013 15:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
I have Blizzard on hold right now.

You can hang up, I just got off the phone with David Kim:

Q: What is the most successful units in HOTS so far?

David Kim: Hydra now has speed upgrade. Ultra is a great threat to enemy right now. Muta makes harassment more effective.

Hydra now has speed upgrade.

Hydra... now... has... speed... upgrade... . ...

GG
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
July 31 2013 09:01 GMT
#16
hydras work in zvz at least~ :D
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 31 2013 09:31 GMT
#17
Hydras are a vital unit in both ZvP and ZvZ, they're incredibly useful in both matchups.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 09:42:30
July 31 2013 09:42 GMT
#18
The biggest problem of the hydra in sc2 is that it costs 2 supply. And that it's lair tech. And those aren't problems that are likely to get fixed ever.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
July 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#19
My friend, the Hydralisks don't deserve such slander. Please try to understand that they have no opposable thumbs, legs, or the ability to close their mouth properly. Hydralisks have drawn the short stick when it comes to their biological makeup.

Just because they are slithery glass cannons doesn't make it okay to bully. Stop bullying.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
July 31 2013 12:04 GMT
#20
Why fix the hydralisk when Blizzard could easily patch in the HydraRoach?
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