• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:31
CET 23:31
KST 07:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1351 users

Can we PLEASE get a useful fucking Hydralisk yet?

Blogs > Jermstuddog
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 12:07:40
July 31 2013 06:10 GMT
#1
I, for some reason, am an idiot.

I keep trying to make hydralisks work.

Somewhere in my mind, I figure, Blizzards buffed them in HotS, hell, last week they even called them the most successful HotS unit, so I just keep using them, because I'm a moron...


Hydras STILL are a siege unit that has to get into close combat range to be useful.

The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells. (edit: and isn't invisible, or have huge splash damage)

The Hydra is a fucking terrible unit, fucking fix it.

*
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
BadgerWatch
Profile Joined February 2011
67 Posts
July 31 2013 06:20 GMT
#2
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:
I, for some reason, am an idiot.


The rest of your post just explained why.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 31 2013 06:20 GMT
#3
I have Blizzard on hold right now.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 31 2013 06:23 GMT
#4
Blizzard, hire this man please!
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 17:50:40
July 31 2013 06:28 GMT
#5
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
July 31 2013 06:38 GMT
#6
Make sure to combine them with Vipers and buffer units (Roaches or Swarm Hosts) for maximum effect.

Also, they are crucial in ZvZ... they are great against Roaches (as long as you have Roach support too), and they allow you to push out against Mutalisks.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
MarklarMarklarr
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Fiji226 Posts
July 31 2013 06:55 GMT
#7
I just build drones
Hello there
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
July 31 2013 07:03 GMT
#8
hydralisks are insecure animals

they need zerglings and roaches and vipers and such to pal around with

and to get blown up or cut in half so the hydralisk doesn't

only then will the hydralisk trust you and show you the awesome power of the hydralisk
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
July 31 2013 07:04 GMT
#9
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 31 2013 07:18 GMT
#10
On July 31 2013 16:04 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.


archons have 10hp
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 31 2013 07:26 GMT
#11
On July 31 2013 16:18 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 16:04 Jermstuddog wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:28 HardlyNever wrote:
On July 31 2013 15:10 Jermstuddog wrote:


The gas-per-mineral ratio is WAY too high for a non-caster/non-siege unit, nothing else in the entire game exists with 6 range or less that can't fly, doesn't have 9+ range, and doesn't cast spells.



Archon, DT. They cost 25 less minerals and 25 more gas than stalkers.

Yes they are fragile, but they also have insane dps. If you are using them a lot versus terran, you'll probably think they are bad. If you not having success with them against protoss, you are doing something wrong.


Alright, you got me.

DTs are invisible,

Archons have 360 fucking HP and deal splash damage.

Both are seen regularly in pro games in all MU involving protoss.


archons have 10hp

Haha!
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
July 31 2013 07:39 GMT
#12
I dunno why they fucked with the zerg race all together so much in this game. It is far less zergy. Which is supposed to be mainly cheap, plentiful, throwaway style units.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 31 2013 07:49 GMT
#13
a useful corrupter
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10253 Posts
July 31 2013 07:54 GMT
#14
On July 31 2013 15:55 MarklarMarklarr wrote:
I just build drones

huk is tryin to out mine me...
but he'll never out mine me.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
July 31 2013 08:16 GMT
#15
On July 31 2013 15:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
I have Blizzard on hold right now.

You can hang up, I just got off the phone with David Kim:

Q: What is the most successful units in HOTS so far?

David Kim: Hydra now has speed upgrade. Ultra is a great threat to enemy right now. Muta makes harassment more effective.

Hydra now has speed upgrade.

Hydra... now... has... speed... upgrade... . ...

GG
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
July 31 2013 09:01 GMT
#16
hydras work in zvz at least~ :D
https://twitter.com/sLideSC2 | (NA)sLide.635 | coL_Sasqautch ~ coL_QXC ~ coL_TriMaster
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 31 2013 09:31 GMT
#17
Hydras are a vital unit in both ZvP and ZvZ, they're incredibly useful in both matchups.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 09:42:30
July 31 2013 09:42 GMT
#18
The biggest problem of the hydra in sc2 is that it costs 2 supply. And that it's lair tech. And those aren't problems that are likely to get fixed ever.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
July 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#19
My friend, the Hydralisks don't deserve such slander. Please try to understand that they have no opposable thumbs, legs, or the ability to close their mouth properly. Hydralisks have drawn the short stick when it comes to their biological makeup.

Just because they are slithery glass cannons doesn't make it okay to bully. Stop bullying.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
July 31 2013 12:04 GMT
#20
Why fix the hydralisk when Blizzard could easily patch in the HydraRoach?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft383
IndyStarCraft 303
JuggernautJason106
elazer 6
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 123
910 36
Yoon 14
Dota 2
febbydoto11
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox131
Other Games
Grubby4413
FrodaN2162
Beastyqt786
fl0m709
B2W.Neo542
RotterdaM214
mouzStarbuck201
Liquid`Hasu193
C9.Mang0175
XaKoH 95
Mew2King51
Maynarde40
ViBE5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV53
StarCraft 2
angryscii 38
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 46
• Reevou 15
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile159
• HerbMon 31
• Michael_bg 9
• XenOsky 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21189
Other Games
• imaqtpie1916
• Shiphtur444
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
13h 29m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 13h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.