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Igniting the Masses

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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 08 2013 05:55 GMT
#1
What do i mean by igniting the masses? Well, to start, the mass i want to ignite is my classmates in my grade.

I'm a high school student and my school is fairly small. We are the smallest grade in the school with 93 kids and from about the second semester of my freshman year, I felt something was off about our grade. Well, here I am now in our Junior Year and the problem I sensed a long time ago is quite evident: Our grade is just lame. When I came to the school, everyone was friendly. The upperclassmen in the orientation did a great job introducing us to the school but my classmates were always a negative bunch, either not caring or focusing on graduation too much. So when I compare my class to say the Senior or Sophomores, they just have a completely different outlook on their school experience and although I do not understand what kind of outlook they have, I desire that same positive aura for my grade.

My Physics teacher recently heard about this dilemma when he was told by seniors and some anonymous juniors that our grade seemed to be unhappy and made a point that every grade generally has an "igniter." I'm pretty sure the sophomores already had their ignition cause they're a jolly bunch and distinct group. Our grade although the smallest is like the feudal lords of japan where we all created small "cliques" for ourselves. In that, we only hang around with the same people most of the time. Breaking into other "cliques" is just hard, I guess I personally tried to get to know others better but it didn't happen. I'm not the most sociable or charismatic person. (Though i need to work on that somehow) And regardless I see from time to time a very small amount of underclassmen hanging out with our grade.

Our grade even on Facebook people seem to just act differently. The patterns and trends I see in other grades don't happen in my grade. It's like, my entire grade is there to prove their worth to some mystery Jesus and my friend describes my grade as selfish for their own goals from his own experiences (but I don't take this personally as bad. I trust my friend's view because it is a load of horse shit how some kids in my grade act). My school is one of the top public schools in New York City that required a dumb test to get in so we aren't all that dumb but our grade collectively has developed an interesting fondness for being redonkulously lazy.

Back to my physics teacher because he's the one who actually really got me to start thinking about this predicament. So he describes every grade as its own organism and this is very similar to how I have been describing each grade. This "igniter" as mentioned before can be in the form of an event, or a person, or anything to get the grade's collective interest. This is incredibly hard considering our grade is very "cliquey" and I would say they are cynical brats sometimes.

Just a month ago our school held an annual Inter-Grade Olympics where we compete for Spirit Week points by participating in athletics. This was before all of this came to my attention, and as reasonable people a couple of people in my grade thought our chance to win this was very good (even with the Senior bias, we were confident in our 17 Cross country runners and our hustling basketball team including me :D). We also reasonable assumed that most of our grade would be down for an event like this, where we would show the other grades that we are indeed the shit. No, but we were as close to shit as possible. We won 1 event (Guy's Basketball :D) but that is really sad considering we had the most people in cross country in all 4 grades and there were a number of running events as well as ultimate Frisbee which is endorsed by the team. Why we lost everything, I do not know but throughout the entire event, you would see something incredibly funny watching the bleachers. The Seniors, Sophomores, and Freshmen were cheering on their fellow classmates to pull through in their efforts. Our grade, did jack. You would barely hear anything from our grade. The seniors at one point wanted to organize a wave and everyone agreed except my grade. When we were somehow awarded 2nd place (we must have gotten 2nd in all of our events that we did not win x_x), our grade was really quiet. Heck, even the freshmen who won last place was probably the loudest.

So I want to make the "igniter" happen already and I come to you Teamliquid to offer anything of value that may be able to save my grade from utter inadequacy. We are piled with much work in the next three months (AP, SATs, Finals) but my teacher had said something that is worth supporting will support itself on its own so whatever I do should be able to snowball itself despite my lack of time but that's being optimistic.

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Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
April 08 2013 06:17 GMT
#2
Never really heard of anything like this before, I'm not sure many people have. Honestly my school is the least cliquey place out there, my grade has like 450~ people and I can say in confidence we all are nice to each other ( minus the few douche bags ofc ) , I really can't help you, sounds like an interesting (but boring) social dynamic.

On the plus side less friends means more starcraft lol.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Like you can train a n00b, but they will just be a trained n00b."
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 08 2013 07:09 GMT
#3
Guess what? The spirit week events don't matter! Class pride doesn't matter! Bragging rights don't matter! If your grade doesn't win spirit competitions... well that's fine. You spent less time worrying about something completely useless.

Somewhat relevant xkcd.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 08 2013 07:17 GMT
#4
Why the heck do you care?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 08 2013 08:24 GMT
#5
^hope you realize you're asking a bunch of antisocial nerds :D

You gotta do something for you that you'd do anyway, but that's cool enough you can get other people in on it too. I don't know how to describe it. Think about somebody who's trying to do something amazing, and you know they'd do it whether or not you helped - so you want to help and be a part of it. Find that thing. Perhaps the most important part is that in your mind, it will be awesome and big. Refuse to let anybody else enforce any other reality (not in a negative way, just have a will of steel and keep at it until others start going along with it).

When you give yourself permission to do something and make yourself immune to judgement, then people around you feel that same permission. If you want to ignite, choose a goal and stake everything on it. Become someone, then grant others respect and appreciation based on what they contribute to you.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 08 2013 08:28 GMT
#6
No, I'm not an antisocial nerd at all, high school spirit is a complete waste of time.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 08 2013 11:05 GMT
#7
ROFL thats not the big thing i don't give a damn about spirit week. It's the attitude in general that's getting on my mind. I only used it as an example.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 08 2013 12:55 GMT
#8
Not sure I can help you much Ken, I was always one of those anti-school unity type kids.. Hated high school. Blahblahblah. But it sounds like what you lack is simple unity, something that in a group of shouldn't be all that hard to garner, you all are small enough to know every face and every name. Why not organize a end of year event for just your grade, a party or a museum viewing or a fucking dance off. I don't know the people you go to school with. You do.

Find something you enjoy and are passionate about (irl mafia) and get people involved. My experience with high achieving high schoolers is that most/all are interested in being the best. I'm sure you could organize an internally competitive event which could bring people together.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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