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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 04:43:49
April 01 2013 00:36 GMT
#1
So I have been interested in Speed Running Pokemon and recently started running Pokemon Yellow. This is the very first game I ever tried speed running, and I have never thought I would Speed Run in my life.

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But after watching Werster (who holds the WR) run Pokemon Speed runs, I decided to join in
Pokemon as a series has been with me since my childhood and I remember my very first Pokemon Red game that I absolutely loved. I watched the show, desperately wanted Pokemon Cards, and Battled and Traded with friends using GameBoy link cables. It was all the rage when it came out and many many gamers, young and old, were entranced by this new game.

However, as I got older, I started to care more about stats. That Pikachu needs to have perfect DV.
Why is my Mankey attack so low? Then as new generations were released, EV Training and natures were added further allowing for greater "customization" of stats. I couldn't play the games anymore for the pure enjoyment of the game. I just had to have that PERFECT pokemon.
Then I discovered speed running.
Only thing that is important is the stat of the very first pokemon, then you rush through the game!
It was the perfect way for me to play the game! With speed as the goal, I wouldn't need to worry about having a full 6 party, with the very best moveset and perfect stats. I only needed one great pokemon! With that in mind, I dove headlong into this new style of gameplay.

After a couple days of experimental running and taking some Shitty Notes, I kind of got the gist down and started a great run

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That -18

Until this happened...
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Stahp STAHP

I was really excited about the time, since well I most likely would have ended the run sub 2:20 which is really good for my third actual run.
Th World Record for Yellow is 2:02 and although behind I was quite proud of it
Unfortunately RNG got the better there...

NEXT DAY

I attempt again:

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-15 Still Pretty Good

Then this shit happens
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and then this shit on the next fight
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FUCK RNG

As much as luck seems to play, I have a lot of fun in these runs!
The fact that luck controls whether I make time or lose time, makes it exciting every part of the way
Although this seems counter intuitive, as luck is something that just isn't part of competitive play for most games, RNG combined with the relaxing nature of the game controls, gives a nice feeling of excitement while enjoying the game casually. I have fun in all these runs. And because it is such a non demanding game to play, I can ENJOY the game as it is. I love to listen to the music, chat with my viewers, and just have a good time.
Although it can be frustrating when you play for a couple hours, then lose everything because of luck

So I am streaming right now, aiming for another attempt
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.twitch.tv/celeron14
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/JSH

Also check out my youtube vids for more Yellow silliness:
https://www.youtube.com/user/14Celeron


Thanks everyone for reading my blog!

EDIT:
MISSION COMPLETE
[image loading]
I hoped for under 2:20 but close enough
YOLO BLIZZARD

****
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
April 01 2013 00:59 GMT
#2
lol I love watching speed runs, not often but I think its pretty interesting to watch my child hood get destroyed in real time Best of luck to you!
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 02:44:16
April 01 2013 02:43 GMT
#3
I was never a perfectionist in RPGs. I always finished D2 (normal) without redoing a boss for loot. Grinding just bores me as does getting the right nature or EVs. I think I got into the theorycraft but never into the grinding parts or competitive pokemon. I liked picking my team for the battle tower, and TL had a challenge a few years back where people were supposed to do pokemon runs together. It didn't work out but I did finish a Ruby run with 6 pokemon with base stats 350 or under. Many hours were spent looking up stats on bulbapedia.

Why did you pick Nidoking for the speed run? The poison ground typing can't be that great in Gen 1 considering no good poison moves existed and you got hit by a lot of super effective attacks. Was it for Nidoking's good special stat and attack and moveset though. Did you pick him for the versatility?


Pokemon is still a very relaxing game to play. I still play every game in the series eventually. Today in White I caught a Kyurem while grinding for the Elite 4. It's still nice to collect.

I would still play the game more if my friends did, but sadly we've all moved on to SC2 and LoL and DotA. I am not as carefree as I was when I was younger during Silver/Crystal so I can't continue playing and theorying out good teams to take into different stages of the battle subway.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10179 Posts
April 01 2013 03:10 GMT
#4
On April 01 2013 11:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
I was never a perfectionist in RPGs. I always finished D2 (normal) without redoing a boss for loot. Grinding just bores me as does getting the right nature or EVs. I think I got into the theorycraft but never into the grinding parts or competitive pokemon. I liked picking my team for the battle tower, and TL had a challenge a few years back where people were supposed to do pokemon runs together. It didn't work out but I did finish a Ruby run with 6 pokemon with base stats 350 or under. Many hours were spent looking up stats on bulbapedia.

Why did you pick Nidoking for the speed run? The poison ground typing can't be that great in Gen 1 considering no good poison moves existed and you got hit by a lot of super effective attacks. Was it for Nidoking's good special stat and attack and moveset though. Did you pick him for the versatility?


Pokemon is still a very relaxing game to play. I still play every game in the series eventually. Today in White I caught a Kyurem while grinding for the Elite 4. It's still nice to collect.

I would still play the game more if my friends did, but sadly we've all moved on to SC2 and LoL and DotA. I am not as carefree as I was when I was younger during Silver/Crystal so I can't continue playing and theorying out good teams to take into different stages of the battle subway.

nidoking was, in general, stupidly strong in yellow version. i legit got this bad boy to mid 50s and just walked over everything.
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 04:41:47
April 01 2013 04:40 GMT
#5
[image loading]
YOLO BLIZZARD

But seriously I messed up really bad there
I forgot to teach Thunderbolt before Rock Tunnel
I accidentally deleted Ice Beam
I accidentally used X Speed on Bruno, thinking I had an extra one

But overall, I'm glad I finally finished a run!
This was the first one that I was able to complete and with pretty good time!

Thank you for those who tuned in~

edit: and Yes Nidoking is used because of early Double Kick for Brock, Thrash at 23, Versatile moveset for rest of the game
And of course godlike stats
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 01 2013 04:51 GMT
#6
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 01 2013 07:27 GMT
#7
GOGO JSH

(also link the vods)
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 08:30:29
April 01 2013 08:20 GMT
#8
My vods are on Twitch and highlights on Twitch and Youtube
I'm going to do another run tomorrow and try to beat my score

I made a highlight of the entire run here

check out other vids here
https://www.youtube.com/user/14Celeron
http://www.twitch.tv/celeron14/videos
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 01 2013 12:05 GMT
#9
nice, you seem relatively calm when running into crappy rng, if that was werster he'd probably have got banned again
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
April 02 2013 04:10 GMT
#10
Gratz to Werster for beating WR
He got 1:59 game time

Think I'm going to start streaming now, and beat the game instead of eating crits huhu
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 00:25:36
April 03 2013 00:23 GMT
#11
Yo I was making good time then this happened:
+ Show Spoiler +

My run
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 00:11:01
April 03 2013 17:59 GMT
#12
Wait are you using the hack to get nidoran? You can either get a nidorino/a or Gengar?


Maybe it only works for Nidorina. I could swear there was another hack that worked before you got to Pewter.
Also I'm not even sure if it'd be hard to get a nidoran that early or even worthwhile. Nidorina evolves with a moon stone I just learned.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 03 2013 18:17 GMT
#13
On April 02 2013 13:10 JSH wrote:
Gratz to Werster for beating WR
He got 1:59 game time

Think I'm going to start streaming now, and beat the game instead of eating crits huhu


Is there a convenient timestamped vod or youtube vid of this anywhere or do I have to go digging through his twitch vods?
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 00:54:40
April 04 2013 00:54 GMT
#14
On April 04 2013 02:59 obesechicken13 wrote:
Wait are you using the hack to get nidoran? You can either get a nidorino/a or Gengar?

Maybe it only works for Nidorina. I could swear there was another hack that worked before you got to Pewter.
Also I'm not even sure if it'd be hard to get a nidoran that early or even worthwhile. Nidorina evolves with a moon stone I just learned.


You can get Nidoran in the bush before Viridian Forest in Yellow
You can also get Nidoran in the bush on road to Victory Road in Viridian City in Red, Blue and Yellow.

This is a glitchless run, so I have to use the Nidoran Male to Speed run with it

On April 04 2013 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On April 02 2013 13:10 JSH wrote:
Gratz to Werster for beating WR
He got 1:59 game time

Think I'm going to start streaming now, and beat the game instead of eating crits huhu


Is there a convenient timestamped vod or youtube vid of this anywhere or do I have to go digging through his twitch vods?

here they are
http://www.twitch.tv/werster/c/2106536
http://www.twitch.tv/werster/c/2106546
Werster's Record

Look what happened on my run today:
+ Show Spoiler +

FUCK GYARADOS
(I messed up my split, so I splitted at the beginning of E4)
Think I was around 2:08-09
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
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