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On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating)
if you are paying that much for a diploma delivery service, you better get what you paid for, no?
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Everything was fine until the drugs part. What the fuck.
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On March 23 2013 08:15 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating) if you are paying that much for a diploma delivery service, you better get what you paid for, no?
lol, I'd much rather pay all that tuition for a school that actually taught me things, but maybe I'm just naive
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I'll probably never have the chance to sit through all my years of college not working, because of the path I've chosen. It makes stuff like this funny for me, especially when I can sit and see the viewpoints of everyone who has had their college paid for by family, which is definitely the way to go for accelerating into earning money early on.
This is still mostly decent advice. Do the dumb things young so you don't fuck up later thinking they're wise. Also, everybody is different. Some people's childhoods shape them into very, very different people.
I think your post has too much emphasis on the kind of shit I'd expect from people like the characters in Enter The Void, but that also lines up more with your character, from what I've read. You (younger) wanted to fuck every prom queen and do every crazy thing you could to break out of the mould that was dropped on you from a young age. Obviously, I don't know you personally, but that's the sense I get from your writings.
Still a good post.
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On March 23 2013 10:52 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:15 419 wrote:On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating) if you are paying that much for a diploma delivery service, you better get what you paid for, no? lol, I'd much rather pay all that tuition for a school that actually taught me things, but maybe I'm just naive
For the education I've managed to buy with my own cash out of pocket, most of my learning is done outside of school. Classes just give me an excuse to focus my learning and stay on task. The feeling I get living in Philadelphia as someone without a college degree or support, working to support those I care for, is that life here revolves around the "middle class start" with an education dropping you into a high paying job, or no education locking you into minimum wage or at most $12/hr for eternity. And it's about the paper for most jobs, not the education itself.
But, here's the funny thing. As a result of being in this position, I get to truly go all the way down this path in life. No feeling is better than living your life without a safety net, knowing that there is truly no danger so long as you play it smart, and eventually succeeding.
I'm ridiculously tired and I just started feeling like I'm floating to the ceiling after drinking a pot of white tea, so if anything is incoherent, bash me bro.
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On March 21 2013 14:33 419 wrote:
arguably, there are better ways to spend $200k++ (compound interest!) than on a 4-5 year exercise of self-indulgence.
Not if it means giving up the chance at a career that requires a college degree, which in the long run will net far more than 200k...
Yes it can be done without college... but c'mon, hitting it solid without college isn't the norm
On March 23 2013 06:47 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:42 ZenithM wrote:On March 23 2013 05:58 Recognizable wrote:On March 23 2013 04:02 lightrise wrote:
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I have really learned what is acceptable and what isn't for school. I just think that all this "collaboration" is bullshit. Lots of times I refuse to do homework with my buddies or my group because I never really learn the material that way. I will sometimes go down to my building and work on the homework and if I get stuck I ask for help understanding something not just getting the answer. What happens for the most part though is for groups bigger then 2/3 there are always people who don't understand the material. People just give out the equations and answers. That is cheating no matter how you look at it. I also have the answers for almost all of the homework problems that are from the book. Is this cheating? Most would assume yes. I usually use it as a source to see if I am on doing shit right because homework in my major can be super hard. If you copy the answer key obviously your an idiot because the teachers have the same answers. The goal of homework is to learn the material not to get the right answer.
I think people would be naive to think cheating isn't commonplace. It just is. Maybe some people are morally superior but in the end it does occur. I disagree. This is not cheating. This is people being dumb. Homework isn't graded isn't it? People can copy answers all they want. They will fail the test anyway. If homework is graded. Well... You are right. But homework being graded? That's on a whole new level of bullshit. Anyway. I had an exam today for Biology and I knew about half the questions already. This lazy teacher of mine made it by using the previous exams which were available on the internet. Which I had practiced. Oh well. I think homework being graded is very common in the US. It was even the context of the Harvard scandal from not too long ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Harvard_cheating_scandal. But yeah it doesn't make too much sense to me either :D Edit: changed "reason" to "context" :D What's this? Kindergarten? Take home exams. wat.
It's common as hell in any US school hah
On March 22 2013 23:17 Japhybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 22:46 docvoc wrote:On March 22 2013 10:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
Don't cheat on anything.
Like seriously, just don't. Don't cheat on homework (okay, well if its some incredibly braindead stuff maybe ok). Don't cheat on tests. Don't cheat on friends. Don't cheat on significant others. It's not worth the physical, academic, social, (insert descriptor here), repercussions. I don't know from personal experience, but yeah. Most smart kids I know cheat, from middleschool through college and even into grad school. most academically successful kids that you know cheat you mean. If they're actually "smart" meaning if they actually have the talent to outshine their peers at competitive institutes, they will likely whiz through whatever work is being given for average students.
Plenty of smart people take adderall like no one's business during shitstorm periods. That's... kinda like cheating? Plenty of them also still openly discuss "do not discuss" materials (take home tests, etc) to speed up the process.
On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating)
Lol... Inflation is only true for Gov., Sociology, and other similar concentrations.. Science classes are still science classes. Same goes for math. Shit's still graded just as harshly as science/math is graded anywhere.
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It's common as hell in any US school hah
Living in dorms, homework being graded... College really seems like High School 2.0 in the US.
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On March 23 2013 18:36 Recognizable wrote:Living in dorms, homework being graded... College really seems like High School 2.0 in the US.
its funny you noticed that. from what i hear, in places like south korea highschool is SUPER intense and difficult, and then uni is much easier, whereas here in canada and the US, highschool is a breeze, and uni will fucking destroy you unless you're careful. (on a slightly unrelated sidenote, most people have to take basic freaking english classes their first year because highschool did a shit job of teaching them how to write coherently)
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The biggest difference the US system has to most other university systems is that you don't pick your major as you apply. In most of Europe you apply to a math program at the school, not the school and then a year or two later pick math. This makes many pieces of advice void since you already picked when starting.
You can switch later on but you can't count credits depending on what you switched to. Doing one year of math and then switching to history you might be able to count one week of the first year into your second choice.
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do the 9-5 grind mon- friday (study) and get that 4.0. Then make the moneyz.
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On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating)
ochem wasn't that bad in retrospect. you start seeing the patterns after a few days of intense studying. i studied for those exams 7 days in advance, and by around day 4 or so the material suddenly clicked and i was able to solve problems without much trouble. good luck with your exam!
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On March 23 2013 21:26 biology]major wrote:
do the 9-5 grind mon- friday (study) and get that 4.0. Then make the moneyz.
Isn't this very normal? I talked to a couple of Physics students and 40 hours a week was basically something you had to do unless you wanted to fail.
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On March 23 2013 23:53 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 21:26 biology]major wrote:
do the 9-5 grind mon- friday (study) and get that 4.0. Then make the moneyz. Isn't this very normal? I talked to a couple of Physics students and 40 hours a week was basically something you had to do unless you wanted to fail.
Unfortunately, 40 hour study/class weeks for undergrads are uncommon for U.S. undergrads. Sure, some majors are more demanding than others (fine arts are EXTREMELY time-consuming), but most can get away with a lot less. I studied engineering and probably did 25-30 hours a week including class. Some did a lot more and some did a lot less. It all comes down to what the student wants to get out of their studies. Some take it very seriously while others treat class, homework, and studying like a distraction.
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On March 23 2013 21:53 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating) ochem wasn't that bad in retrospect. you start seeing the patterns after a few days of intense studying. i studied for those exams 7 days in advance, and by around day 4 or so the material suddenly clicked and i was able to solve problems without much trouble. good luck with your exam!
its also a subject that im just really bad at unfortunately. its like trying to palm a basketball, but my hand's just not quite up to the task.
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On March 22 2013 02:49 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 19:18 Sated wrote:On March 21 2013 14:03 ieatkids5 wrote:On March 21 2013 13:38 Lexpar wrote:On March 21 2013 13:08 ieatkids5 wrote:On March 21 2013 12:09 catplanetcatplanet wrote:On March 21 2013 10:59 Lexpar wrote:
8 2d ed. Try assorted chemical substances - College is the last safe time you'll have to get high. It takes around 90 days, at most, for most drug residues to disappear from your body. (90 days is for hair samples--it might be shorter for urine, saliva, or blood). A lot of decent jobs require a drug test for admission, and you don't want to have 90-day stretches of unemployment after college... but in college, you can plan out your 420 timetable so that by the time you need to pee into a cup you're completely clean. Winners don't do drugs (the new catplanetcatplanet amendment) ya that. i dont see whats wrong with trying weed or a cigarette. college really is the best time to try it. shadysands isnt advocating that you get hooked on drugs. having the experience of knowing what getting high is like, what smoking a cigarette is like, is valuable. you understand it more, and you can make an informed decision on whether you should do it or not. one time isn't going to harm you any more than many other things in life that people already do. just talking about stuff like weed. shit like heroin is a different story. never do that. How can you understand heroin and make an informed decision about whether you should do it or not without trying? #DevilsAdvocate #AnnoyingQuestions #FuckImSleepy because from what you know and the countless stories of lives being ruined by heroin, the risk of trying it most likely outweighs the experience gained. weed, on the other hand, has a much much lower risk-to-reward ratio. Not doing any of it has a much lower risk-to-reward ratio. no, there's not much risk in trying weed, but there is a reward. unless you dont value the experience of getting high once at all. if that's the case, then yeah, dont try it, but i think it's a valuable experience for anyone. Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 16:40 spinesheath wrote:On March 21 2013 13:38 Lexpar wrote:On March 21 2013 13:08 ieatkids5 wrote:On March 21 2013 12:09 catplanetcatplanet wrote:On March 21 2013 10:59 Lexpar wrote:
8 2d ed. Try assorted chemical substances - College is the last safe time you'll have to get high. It takes around 90 days, at most, for most drug residues to disappear from your body. (90 days is for hair samples--it might be shorter for urine, saliva, or blood). A lot of decent jobs require a drug test for admission, and you don't want to have 90-day stretches of unemployment after college... but in college, you can plan out your 420 timetable so that by the time you need to pee into a cup you're completely clean. Winners don't do drugs (the new catplanetcatplanet amendment) ya that. i dont see whats wrong with trying weed or a cigarette. college really is the best time to try it. shadysands isnt advocating that you get hooked on drugs. having the experience of knowing what getting high is like, what smoking a cigarette is like, is valuable. you understand it more, and you can make an informed decision on whether you should do it or not. one time isn't going to harm you any more than many other things in life that people already do. just talking about stuff like weed. shit like heroin is a different story. never do that. How can you understand heroin and make an informed decision about whether you should do it or not without trying? #DevilsAdvocate #AnnoyingQuestions #FuckImSleepy How can you make an informed decision about suicide without trying? Geez. I don't care if you do drugs, but I sure as hell don't like it when you say things along the lines of "do drugs, it will be good for you". sorry if i implied that you cant make an informed decision without trying it. it should have been "you can make a more informed decision if you have tried it" and obviously, you decide whether to try it or not by weighing the risk to reward of trying it vs not trying it. weed - risk is very little. reward - you get the experience of trying it and understand it more. i say go for it. heroin - risk is super high, addiction, life ruined, etc. reward - you get the experience of trying it and understand it more. risk is too high, dont do it. and of course, you can use the above logic on suicide.
So having been high from drugs is a useful experience? I wonder what else you would consider useful experiences. Isn't it better to try and find sustainable highs naturally? Such as in your work, in hobbies, in friendship or in love?
My advice of life: Avoid anything that only leads to short-term happiness. It can drain your inspiration for finding natural and sustainable happiness, and it can decrease your sensitivity towards long-term happiness, so that you might not realize it when you've found it, and then end up losing it.
Don't learn by screwing up on purpose (experimenting). Try your best to make good and productive decisions at all times. This way you will develop your capacity to make the right decisions, and you will learn the skill of success, ie turning your dreams into reality.
That's a useful skill toi have in life.
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On March 23 2013 21:53 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating) ochem wasn't that bad in retrospect. you start seeing the patterns after a few days of intense studying. i studied for those exams 7 days in advance, and by around day 4 or so the material suddenly clicked and i was able to solve problems without much trouble. good luck with your exam!
Ochem is pretty ez. After you start seeing patterns and memorizing mechanisms its not that bad.
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Not if it means giving up the chance at a career that requires a college degree, which in the long run will net far more than 200k...
Yes it can be done without college... but c'mon, hitting it solid without college isn't the norm
Well yeah, I never said that all college experiences were 4-5 year exercises in self-indulgence. Nor do they all have to cost 200k~.
If you think college is a long-term investment, then you should probably treat it as one instead of evaluating it on the basis of short-term utility.
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On March 23 2013 19:27 StayPhrosty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 18:36 Recognizable wrote:It's common as hell in any US school hah Living in dorms, homework being graded... College really seems like High School 2.0 in the US. its funny you noticed that. from what i hear, in places like south korea highschool is SUPER intense and difficult, and then uni is much easier, whereas here in canada and the US, highschool is a breeze, and uni will fucking destroy you unless you're careful. (on a slightly unrelated sidenote, most people have to take basic freaking english classes their first year because highschool did a shit job of teaching them how to write coherently)
I think that depends on where you go to high school in the States, and on what you do in high school. Most everyone I know tells me that college is much easier than high school, but I go to a fairly privileged high school where a good portion of the student body takes 5 APs a year.
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On March 23 2013 21:53 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
i spent the last 6 hours studying orgo and now i have a headache, i swear my vision is blurrier than it was several hours ago, and ive spent like 10 bucks on coffee (thats at 99 cents a cup)
think of it just like working out. you wont build muscle or get more fit by faking. sure there's some things that make it easier, but ultimately you need to put in the effort.
on another note, harvard is hard to get in ez to get out. inflation on grades there makes the inflation on the iranian rial look tame. i personally think its hilarious that students started QQing so much cuz a class that was supposed to be easy actually got hard. (btw, that is some serious fail cheating) ochem wasn't that bad in retrospect. you start seeing the patterns after a few days of intense studying. i studied for those exams 7 days in advance, and by around day 4 or so the material suddenly clicked and i was able to solve problems without much trouble. good luck with your exam!
Nailed it. Ochem is actually much easier then all the horror stories you hear about it lol. You need to learn the mechanisms and not just study the flash cards for reactions. Everyone that does enough studying can get a B. Its the people that really learn the material and put together the mechanisms and can start to see multi-step reactions on the test are the ones that get the A's. If you don't learn shit well then obviously you are hosed. Pchem is much much harder than Ochem.
Yeah high school totally depends on which one you went to. For the most part though High School and Community College is a freaking joke. It does not prepare most people for college or really give them a good base skillset to do well. That being said most College majors are still a breeze for people with average intelligence. It requires people to do more work than in high school but not by a huge amount. Some majors though are ridiculously hard and/or are time consuming like Architecture. Engineering from what I know is generally the hardest set of majors. Bio students and other science complain about their major but for the most part chemistry students hated when ChemE students were in their classes. Bio is busy work memorizing lots of shit whereas engineering was learning tons of shit and how to apply it.
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