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Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
March 14 2013 17:55 GMT
#101
On March 15 2013 02:22 Liquid`TLO wrote:
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On March 15 2013 02:12 Snotling wrote:
Get a hobby in there. Preferably some sport.

Not just a work out you do for the sake of working out, something you do for fun.
This way you get to work out, and relax/clear your brain at the same time.
There is so much stuff you can do in Berlin. Try some martial art, learn archery, start kajaking, doesnt really matter as long as its fun.

Im sitting on my desk most of the day for the last years (studying and working) and sometimes i had a hard time motivating me to work out. But since i started naginata (traditional japanese martial art were you fight with a long, glaive-like weapon, but as mentioned, it realy doesnt matter what ou do, i just like hitting people :D) im there three times a week. I don't have to work out anymore. I get to work out. And thats a big difference to me :D

Way better than doing exercies just for the sake of it imo. You would do sport and "do something nice" at the same time.




agreed, it's a good idea. I'll see what I can find without having to travel too far


well there is naginata in berlin too :D

If its anything like in here in mainz, there will be girls (in japan actually more women than men, quite a few in germany to) and nerds.

But it shouldnt be to hard to find something in Berlin. The problem should rather be to decide what to do of all the possibillitys.
HornyHydra
Profile Joined February 2011
Taiwan222 Posts
March 14 2013 18:09 GMT
#102
Looks awesome, but I thought swimming after a big meal could cause cramping or something...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/499108-muscle-cramps-swimming-after-eating/

It may not be too significant, but it's still something you may want to look at TLO.
GL with your new schedule!
Prime ♥
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
March 14 2013 18:21 GMT
#103
Good luck TLO!

I will try a schedule for myself, just for luls.
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
March 14 2013 18:49 GMT
#104
On March 15 2013 03:09 HornyHydra wrote:
Looks awesome, but I thought swimming after a big meal could cause cramping or something...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/499108-muscle-cramps-swimming-after-eating/

It may not be too significant, but it's still something you may want to look at TLO.
GL with your new schedule!


well as you can see my lunch break there is 2 hours. Doesn't mean I eat for 2 hours :D will eat the first part of the break and then have time until I go swimming

Thanks for the concerns!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 18:58:42
March 14 2013 18:58 GMT
#105
From my experience (not in Starcraft II, mind you, but swimming, which is still a competitive sport with some similar requirements), it's usually beneficial to have one day - preferrably wednesdays, to sleep in - at least an hour or two. Let's you recuperate for a bit, and even if you get up at roughly the same time, you'll likely still feel more rested.
You might prefer similar schedules for each day, in which case that's totally fine, but it might be something to consider.

GL HF!




On March 15 2013 03:09 HornyHydra wrote:
Looks awesome, but I thought swimming after a big meal could cause cramping or something...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/499108-muscle-cramps-swimming-after-eating/

It may not be too significant, but it's still something you may want to look at TLO.
GL with your new schedule!


Mostly applies when you're doing intense swimming. I don't know how well TLO swims, but I reckon muscle cramps likely won't be an issue unless he's going hardcore, all-out workout.
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Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
March 14 2013 20:01 GMT
#106
It will be a pain in the ass to follow a strict schedule like this, but if you stick to it for at least a month, I think it will become easy, and you'll be one happy dude
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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
March 14 2013 20:34 GMT
#107
On March 15 2013 03:49 Liquid`TLO wrote:
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On March 15 2013 03:09 HornyHydra wrote:
Looks awesome, but I thought swimming after a big meal could cause cramping or something...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/499108-muscle-cramps-swimming-after-eating/

It may not be too significant, but it's still something you may want to look at TLO.
GL with your new schedule!


well as you can see my lunch break there is 2 hours. Doesn't mean I eat for 2 hours :D will eat the first part of the break and then have time until I go swimming

Thanks for the concerns!



Best of luck, I love how you and the rest of TL are so public about your training regimes and self-improvement schemes.

Keep at it, would love to see your name more regularly in the brackets!

Also, what's your current hair situation? Hobo-mode, shaved head or something in between?
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MrStorkie
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom697 Posts
March 14 2013 21:07 GMT
#108
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.

Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!

But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!
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Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
March 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#109
On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising.


Can't agree less

Good luck TLO, looking forward to see your games
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
March 14 2013 21:40 GMT
#110
On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.

Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!

But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!

A lot of foreign professionals are being pro in the spare time. They have school and other obligations, where as full tie korean pros are actually full time
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
March 14 2013 22:00 GMT
#111
Silly TLO...
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
March 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#112
On March 15 2013 06:40 WikidSik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.

Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!

But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!

A lot of foreign professionals are being pro in the spare time. They have school and other obligations, where as full tie korean pros are actually full time


That doesnt count for TLO since hes clearly playing full time, yet you cant count the raw SC2 hours as his working day. Good use of downtime, working out, relaxing, preparing and eating healty food on a conscious basis improves every hour spend on SC2.
It sounds like an excuse, but if done right you get more out of 3+3+3h playing and 1+1+1h relaxing inbetween than 12h straight grind.

Hours count in the end, but smart use of time can give an edge when everyone invests the same. If you do both, invest more and smarter, one should gain an edge, but hard to tell since noone will actually track the progress and noone else is there to compare.
edlover420
Profile Joined December 2012
349 Posts
March 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#113
Firstly this timetable is a really great inside into a life of a progamer.
Secondly, you should finish your study/find a job and find someone special in your life. You are really awesome. However seeing this schedule your life looks extremely dull if I might say so, yet I often have weeks when I play A LOT more than you do and I'm only playing for fun. You are surely smart enough to realize that if you ever wanted to win something big, to compete with Koreans you would have to push it to the limit and play much much more. I realize that you might find yourself living a perfect life, not regretting anything, playing video games and hanging out with real ballers, but is it worth it in the long run? It really depends on an individual, but surely a timetable with a lot more social interactions and with someone special in your life, while being successful in a real job should be more rewarding than this.
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
March 15 2013 00:02 GMT
#114
Good luck and a step in the right direction towards showing results in the future!

However, I can't help but cringe at the discrepancy between the number of hours of practice of a typical Korean SC2 house member and a western progamer who's actually decided to practice more (so others most likely practice even less). At only about 1/2 the practice time, those ~7 hours per day better be damn efficient practice.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
March 15 2013 02:32 GMT
#115
Schedule is too tight. From my experience, zero breaks between blocks don't work. Other than that, good luck. I'm fighting the same battle against myself. It's hard, but consistency wins the race.
@nowSimon
theslayer922
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada304 Posts
March 15 2013 03:05 GMT
#116
awesome schedule TLO, GLGL!
In the Donger I Trust
Sherlock-Canada
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada269 Posts
March 15 2013 04:12 GMT
#117
Good luck, TLO. You are my favourite player, forever and always. <3
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
March 15 2013 04:32 GMT
#118
Great initiative. Keep us updated. I'm specifically looking to forward to seeing if you will share specific aspects of the game you are working on at any given time.
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
March 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#119
You have inspired me TLO to continue what I had once started. It seems like I was in the same situation as you as far as distractions and whatnot. I was the same way in school, I'm still the same way now sadly. Your schedule looks like it's do-able compared to some of the random "goals" I make for myself but never complete. Maybe I will start following your schedule. lol.

Good luck bro!
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Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 07:54:35
March 15 2013 07:48 GMT
#120
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On March 15 2013 08:05 edlover420 wrote:
Firstly this timetable is a really great inside into a life of a progamer.
Secondly, you should finish your study/find a job and find someone special in your life. You are really awesome. However seeing this schedule your life looks extremely dull if I might say so, yet I often have weeks when I play A LOT more than you do and I'm only playing for fun. You are surely smart enough to realize that if you ever wanted to win something big, to compete with Koreans you would have to push it to the limit and play much much more. I realize that you might find yourself living a perfect life, not regretting anything, playing video games and hanging out with real ballers, but is it worth it in the long run? It really depends on an individual, but surely a timetable with a lot more social interactions and with someone special in your life, while being successful in a real job should be more rewarding than this.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4


Oh on the contrary my life is freaking awesome.
I would never want to study again in my life, not because I don't like learning. I love educating myself whenever I can but our education systems are so incredibly dull that I don't find myself enjoying being part of the system. I need to go my own way, just like I am pretty sure I'll never be able to work a 9-5 job because I need to be able to be my own boss to some extend.
About the playing more, I always say there is a difference between ''playing'' and training a game. I can easily play sc2 12 hours a day without any exhaustion. Or I can have one super intense, giving it my all 3 hour session and I'll feel physically exhausted and can't concentrate anymore without a small break. People don't seem to realise the difference between casually playing a game and playing with near 300apm for 3 hours while being focused, finding your weakpoints, making decisions and actively improving your game. You can compare it with taking a walk for 1 hour or running as fast as you can for 1 hour. Quality and intensity are very important for the training of a pro-gamer.
As I was saying this is the first version and I want to exceed my goals listed here, but I've never trained on a schedule so it would be pointless to set myself goals I can't reach and get demotivated.

I have lots of really awesome friends in Germany and the entire world. Get to travel to different places every month and I got free time on the weekend. I'm not a person who needs to be social every day, not in person at least. My life has become much more interesting since I've become a pro-gamer. And if I want to do more fun things in the week I'll have to become more efficient simple as that. But in the end if you love something as much as I love sc2 you can go just being happy about playing the game for several weeks and having a free day here and then.
Definition of happiness is very individual!
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