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Germany885 Posts
On March 15 2013 02:22 Liquid`TLO wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 15 2013 02:12 Snotling wrote:
Get a hobby in there. Preferably some sport.
Not just a work out you do for the sake of working out, something you do for fun.
This way you get to work out, and relax/clear your brain at the same time.
There is so much stuff you can do in Berlin. Try some martial art, learn archery, start kajaking, doesnt really matter as long as its fun.
Im sitting on my desk most of the day for the last years (studying and working) and sometimes i had a hard time motivating me to work out. But since i started naginata (traditional japanese martial art were you fight with a long, glaive-like weapon, but as mentioned, it realy doesnt matter what ou do, i just like hitting people :D) im there three times a week. I don't have to work out anymore. I get to work out. And thats a big difference to me :D
Way better than doing exercies just for the sake of it imo. You would do sport and "do something nice" at the same time. agreed, it's a good idea. I'll see what I can find without having to travel too far 
well there is naginata in berlin too :D
If its anything like in here in mainz, there will be girls (in japan actually more women than men, quite a few in germany to) and nerds. 
But it shouldnt be to hard to find something in Berlin. The problem should rather be to decide what to do of all the possibillitys.
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Good luck TLO!
I will try a schedule for myself, just for luls.
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Germany767 Posts
well as you can see my lunch break there is 2 hours. Doesn't mean I eat for 2 hours :D will eat the first part of the break and then have time until I go swimming
Thanks for the concerns!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
From my experience (not in Starcraft II, mind you, but swimming, which is still a competitive sport with some similar requirements), it's usually beneficial to have one day - preferrably wednesdays, to sleep in - at least an hour or two. Let's you recuperate for a bit, and even if you get up at roughly the same time, you'll likely still feel more rested.
You might prefer similar schedules for each day, in which case that's totally fine, but it might be something to consider.
GL HF!
Mostly applies when you're doing intense swimming. I don't know how well TLO swims, but I reckon muscle cramps likely won't be an issue unless he's going hardcore, all-out workout.
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It will be a pain in the ass to follow a strict schedule like this, but if you stick to it for at least a month, I think it will become easy, and you'll be one happy dude
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On March 15 2013 03:49 Liquid`TLO wrote:well as you can see my lunch break there is 2 hours. Doesn't mean I eat for 2 hours :D will eat the first part of the break and then have time until I go swimming Thanks for the concerns!
Best of luck, I love how you and the rest of TL are so public about your training regimes and self-improvement schemes.
Keep at it, would love to see your name more regularly in the brackets!
Also, what's your current hair situation? Hobo-mode, shaved head or something in between?
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After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.
Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!
But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!
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On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising.
Can't agree less 
Good luck TLO, looking forward to see your games
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On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.
Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!
But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!
A lot of foreign professionals are being pro in the spare time. They have school and other obligations, where as full tie korean pros are actually full time
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On March 15 2013 06:40 WikidSik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 06:07 MrStorkie wrote:
After reading this, I realised how little foreign progamers are actually practising. If this is the schedule you're supposed to work towards to, it suggests that you're currently practising far less. I work about 8-10 hours a day, and sometimes I get calls from the office even during weekend and I have to either work from home or get my ass back to the office. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I consider being progamer as a full time job, and if this is how foreign professional players are being managed, I'm not surprised at all why Koreans are that much better.
Most companies have a punch in/out system to track their employee's working hours. Some of them even track your work progress by the hour (unfortunately my company is one of them). IMO, u need to put more hours in... Do not aim to achieve your targeted hours -- try to exceed them!
But I applaud your effort. Baby steps! Most people say they hate their jobs, perhaps it's boring, not challenging enough, the boss is a prick, the workload is too heavy, etc. but the truth is, most people hate to work, they only do so because they need to earn a living. You have a great team of colleagues, great working environment, extremely flexible working hours. Never forget that -- work hard!!
A lot of foreign professionals are being pro in the spare time. They have school and other obligations, where as full tie korean pros are actually full time
That doesnt count for TLO since hes clearly playing full time, yet you cant count the raw SC2 hours as his working day. Good use of downtime, working out, relaxing, preparing and eating healty food on a conscious basis improves every hour spend on SC2.
It sounds like an excuse, but if done right you get more out of 3+3+3h playing and 1+1+1h relaxing inbetween than 12h straight grind.
Hours count in the end, but smart use of time can give an edge when everyone invests the same. If you do both, invest more and smarter, one should gain an edge, but hard to tell since noone will actually track the progress and noone else is there to compare.
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Firstly this timetable is a really great inside into a life of a progamer.
Secondly, you should finish your study/find a job and find someone special in your life. You are really awesome. However seeing this schedule your life looks extremely dull if I might say so, yet I often have weeks when I play A LOT more than you do and I'm only playing for fun. You are surely smart enough to realize that if you ever wanted to win something big, to compete with Koreans you would have to push it to the limit and play much much more. I realize that you might find yourself living a perfect life, not regretting anything, playing video games and hanging out with real ballers, but is it worth it in the long run? It really depends on an individual, but surely a timetable with a lot more social interactions and with someone special in your life, while being successful in a real job should be more rewarding than this.
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Good luck and a step in the right direction towards showing results in the future!
However, I can't help but cringe at the discrepancy between the number of hours of practice of a typical Korean SC2 house member and a western progamer who's actually decided to practice more (so others most likely practice even less). At only about 1/2 the practice time, those ~7 hours per day better be damn efficient practice.
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Schedule is too tight. From my experience, zero breaks between blocks don't work. Other than that, good luck. I'm fighting the same battle against myself. It's hard, but consistency wins the race.
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awesome schedule TLO, GLGL!
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Good luck, TLO. You are my favourite player, forever and always. <3
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Great initiative. Keep us updated. I'm specifically looking to forward to seeing if you will share specific aspects of the game you are working on at any given time.
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You have inspired me TLO to continue what I had once started. It seems like I was in the same situation as you as far as distractions and whatnot. I was the same way in school, I'm still the same way now sadly. Your schedule looks like it's do-able compared to some of the random "goals" I make for myself but never complete. Maybe I will start following your schedule. lol.
Good luck bro!
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Germany767 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +On March 15 2013 08:05 edlover420 wrote:Firstly this timetable is a really great inside into a life of a progamer. Secondly, you should finish your study/find a job and find someone special in your life. You are really awesome. However seeing this schedule your life looks extremely dull if I might say so, yet I often have weeks when I play A LOT more than you do and I'm only playing for fun. You are surely smart enough to realize that if you ever wanted to win something big, to compete with Koreans you would have to push it to the limit and play much much more. I realize that you might find yourself living a perfect life, not regretting anything, playing video games and hanging out with real ballers, but is it worth it in the long run? It really depends on an individual, but surely a timetable with a lot more social interactions and with someone special in your life, while being successful in a real job should be more rewarding than this. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
Oh on the contrary my life is freaking awesome.
I would never want to study again in my life, not because I don't like learning. I love educating myself whenever I can but our education systems are so incredibly dull that I don't find myself enjoying being part of the system. I need to go my own way, just like I am pretty sure I'll never be able to work a 9-5 job because I need to be able to be my own boss to some extend.
About the playing more, I always say there is a difference between ''playing'' and training a game. I can easily play sc2 12 hours a day without any exhaustion. Or I can have one super intense, giving it my all 3 hour session and I'll feel physically exhausted and can't concentrate anymore without a small break. People don't seem to realise the difference between casually playing a game and playing with near 300apm for 3 hours while being focused, finding your weakpoints, making decisions and actively improving your game. You can compare it with taking a walk for 1 hour or running as fast as you can for 1 hour. Quality and intensity are very important for the training of a pro-gamer.
As I was saying this is the first version and I want to exceed my goals listed here, but I've never trained on a schedule so it would be pointless to set myself goals I can't reach and get demotivated.
I have lots of really awesome friends in Germany and the entire world. Get to travel to different places every month and I got free time on the weekend. I'm not a person who needs to be social every day, not in person at least. My life has become much more interesting since I've become a pro-gamer. And if I want to do more fun things in the week I'll have to become more efficient simple as that. But in the end if you love something as much as I love sc2 you can go just being happy about playing the game for several weeks and having a free day here and then.
Definition of happiness is very individual!
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