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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
if i were you i'd do like a) turn off computer at 9pm, read a book if you want with the intention of sleeping around 10pm (or before!) b) if you wake up in the night, toilet and drink a glass of water but do not turn the computer on - read if you need to and try to immediately sleep again c) hopefully you'll wake up naturally around like 9-10am, get up and eat immediately, then shower and stretch as you're getting dry. it helps to have a broomstick handle, you can do squats with it which are amazing for hip mobility d) get dressed and fucking goooo | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
FFGenerations wrote: i find there are only 2 important times in a daily schedual - the time you go to bed, and the time you get up and shower, eat and GO. sort these 2 out and stuff inbetween will be a lot easier and satisfying. if i were you i'd do like a) turn off computer at 9pm, read a book if you want with the intention of sleeping around 10pm (or before!) b) if you wake up in the night, toilet and drink a glass of water but do not turn the computer on - read if you need to and try to immediately sleep again c) hopefully you'll wake up naturally around like 9-10am, get up and eat immediately, then shower and stretch as you're getting dry. it helps to have a broomstick handle, you can do squats with it which are amazing for hip mobility d) get dressed and fucking goooo that's like 11-12 hours of sleep... that's crazy haha you dont have time to sleep that much if you want to be successful friend | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
I think its very good that you put time and thought into how to be a better gamer. I feel a lot of pros live their dream in being a progamer but don't actually live like its their job. While you make a living out of progaming I feel like investing time into it is a great thing to do. While I don't know how you did live and practice in the past and how much your CTS (hope I did take the right term) allows you to play without a break in between, I think your schedule could be re-worked as you mentioned over time. Being strict with yourself, having a schedule is a good thing overall, but its bad as soon as you start forcing it onto yourself. I'll put a bit of criticism / feedback in here. If you want to apply that or ignore, its up to you, just trying to give you some personal and general experience with scheduling days/weeks. When I was playing at my peak and I actually enjoyed playing more than 12 hours a day, one comes to mind: Its exhausting. While players that are not on a high level might disagree, I am pretty sure you would agree that its not just mentally but also physically exhausting to be focused a lot of hours straight up. You are on a level that should put you under a lot of stress which strains the body. So having physical workout in your schedule is something I really find fitting. Not only for balancing your time on the computer, but also for overall healthyness. One point I would disagree with is your 'opening' if you want to have it in Starcraft terms. While some people don't need a lot of sleep and get a long with it, you might still feel improvement when you have a good sleeping schedule. As funny as it sounds, I'd rather cut an hour of Starcraft instead of an hour of sleep, because it hurts you less. Sleep affects contentration and your whole day, while 1 hour of less Starcraft or freetime does not or not in such a scale. You mentioned that you go to bed at around midnight to 1 AM, which is really late if you get up at 7:30AM. Your body should get 8 hours of sleep average which is basic term if you do sports of any kind. You don't do as much sports as an athlete, but neither do you live as healthy (I suppose) nor do you have less stress and strain on your body. As mentioned, I'd take out 1 hour / half an our of anything and put more time to sleep. When you never really had a schedule before you will notice that its more exhausting than doing whatever you want, when you feel like it. If I could give any insight on sleeping, I'd suggest a pitch black room. Try to avoid LEDs / lights of any sort, try to get your room cool and filled with fresh air before you sleep if you dislike sleeping with your window open and as you already put in your schedule, stick away from computer/really pushing things (brain-wise). This could greatly improve sleeping and fight exhaustion. Even as a progamer I think free time / other activity is important. You are not directly competing with Korea and while I think their superior (in most cases) mechanics and game evolves around hard practice and a lot of it, I think having a balanced life and time to think allows for an equally good game. Its not like you don't play a lot. Other than that, as Chill mentioned. I don't know if you do that kind of on/off schedule of playing starcraft and mixing free time because your hand/health condition doesn't allow otherwise or if you simply do not like a long sitting and having freetime after. While I think your schedule has its downsides, I also think it has a lot of advantages. While a long session can and will improve stamina a short session will allow a higher level of gameplay for that time and time to rethink the games after. If there is anything more than running/swimming you like, I could suggest to do a bit of crossfit. It will improve overall physical fitness and is really straining. Might want to do it in the end of the day if you are not used to it, as your muscles will be sore haha. (can start easy though) http://www.learncrossfit.com/ Example taken from there (first site right now even, as benchmark of fitness) For Time: Run 400m 21 Push ups (the females will do these on their knees) 21 Squats 5 Burpees Run 400m 15 Push ups 15 Squats 5 Burpees Run 400m 9 Push ups 9 Squats 5 Burpees Take your time for that, improve it... move on to harder excersize if its too easy  ! Good luck living your dream and improving your level, I'll follow your progress! | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Funkmastajam
United States83 Posts
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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Protoss-Bah
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E.L.V.I.S
Belgium458 Posts
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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
On March 14 2013 17:47 Type|NarutO wrote: Hey Dario, I think its very good that you put time and thought into how to be a better gamer. I feel a lot of pros live their dream in being a progamer but don't actually live like its their job. While you make a living out of progaming I feel like investing time into it is a great thing to do. While I don't know how you did live and practice in the past and how much your CTS (hope I did take the right term) allows you to play without a break in between, I think your schedule could be re-worked as you mentioned over time. Being strict with yourself, having a schedule is a good thing overall, but its bad as soon as you start forcing it onto yourself. I'll put a bit of criticism / feedback in here. If you want to apply that or ignore, its up to you, just trying to give you some personal and general experience with scheduling days/weeks. When I was playing at my peak and I actually enjoyed playing more than 12 hours a day, one comes to mind: Its exhausting. While players that are not on a high level might disagree, I am pretty sure you would agree that its not just mentally but also physically exhausting to be focused a lot of hours straight up. You are on a level that should put you under a lot of stress which strains the body. So having physical workout in your schedule is something I really find fitting. Not only for balancing your time on the computer, but also for overall healthyness. One point I would disagree with is your 'opening' if you want to have it in Starcraft terms. While some people don't need a lot of sleep and get a long with it, you might still feel improvement when you have a good sleeping schedule. As funny as it sounds, I'd rather cut an hour of Starcraft instead of an hour of sleep, because it hurts you less. Sleep affects contentration and your whole day, while 1 hour of less Starcraft or freetime does not or not in such a scale. You mentioned that you go to bed at around midnight to 1 AM, which is really late if you get up at 7:30AM. Your body should get 8 hours of sleep average which is basic term if you do sports of any kind. You don't do as much sports as an athlete, but neither do you live as healthy (I suppose) nor do you have less stress and strain on your body. As mentioned, I'd take out 1 hour / half an our of anything and put more time to sleep. When you never really had a schedule before you will notice that its more exhausting than doing whatever you want, when you feel like it. If I could give any insight on sleeping, I'd suggest a pitch black room. Try to avoid LEDs / lights of any sort, try to get your room cool and filled with fresh air before you sleep if you dislike sleeping with your window open and as you already put in your schedule, stick away from computer/really pushing things (brain-wise). This could greatly improve sleeping and fight exhaustion. Even as a progamer I think free time / other activity is important. You are not directly competing with Korea and while I think their superior (in most cases) mechanics and game evolves around hard practice and a lot of it, I think having a balanced life and time to think allows for an equally good game. Its not like you don't play a lot. Other than that, as Chill mentioned. I don't know if you do that kind of on/off schedule of playing starcraft and mixing free time because your hand/health condition doesn't allow otherwise or if you simply do not like a long sitting and having freetime after. While I think your schedule has its downsides, I also think it has a lot of advantages. While a long session can and will improve stamina a short session will allow a higher level of gameplay for that time and time to rethink the games after. If there is anything more than running/swimming you like, I could suggest to do a bit of crossfit. It will improve overall physical fitness and is really straining. Might want to do it in the end of the day if you are not used to it, as your muscles will be sore haha. (can start easy though) http://www.learncrossfit.com/ Example taken from there (first site right now even, as benchmark of fitness) For Time: Run 400m 21 Push ups (the females will do these on their knees) 21 Squats 5 Burpees Run 400m 15 Push ups 15 Squats 5 Burpees Run 400m 9 Push ups 9 Squats 5 Burpees Take your time for that, improve it... move on to harder excersize if its too easy ! Good luck living your dream and improving your level, I'll follow your progress!Crossfit is definitely something I want to look into, I do pushups, chrunches and pullups at home every morning. It's included in preparing the day basically ^^ but I could try to integrate into my running as well, sounds like lots of fun. I hope to have a more intense trainings schedule in 2-3 weeks, this is just to get used to things. About the sleeping, I feel really comfortable sleeping 6-7 hours day. Sleeping longer than that I usually feel less refreshed, I think it's pretty individual. For me it seems to work just fine. Thanks for your response! | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
Why I was saying this? Because I found the solution for it. To maintaine desire to play you must have few goals, on daily basis and a final one. Lets take for example my exam. If I must learn 800 pages for exam which is for 2 months, I must split number of pages per day and number of times I need to read the book. So daily goal is to reach certain number of pages, lets say 30-40, and final one is to pass the exam. So, if you have final goal to win, for ex. Dreamhack, I think its good to set daily goal on reaching certain number of wins on ladder/custom matches. So basically you must force yourself, (without specific time schedule, which can make things worse), to win certain amont of games/points no matter what happened that day. That way, you will turn off gimicky play because it can "make your goal potentially unreachable" and force yourself to learn playstyles which suits you the best and practice only that ones (which is probably why Koreans are dominating, they are practicing one thing 20000 times until they are past over it). Also, it can give you will to play at the times game is boring to you, because you must do the schedule to reach final goal. Sorry for bad English, I hope you understood me, and I hope that this can help you even a little bit. | ||
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nepeta
1872 Posts
08:00 - 08:30 get up, wash, shave, ramen 08:30 - 11:30 sc2 11:30 - 12:30 ramen and football 12:30 - 18:00 sc2 18:00 - 19:00 ramen and walk outside 19:00 - 22:00 sc2 22:00 - 23:00 fitness 24:00 - 08:00 sleep And of course you won't get the weekends off, what were you thinking?! You may take 5 min/hour to do 50 pushups and 50 squats. If you're doing well again, you'll get half a day off in the weekend, which you'll voluntarily spend playing sc2 of course. I saw EG hired that geezer from SKT1, good move, but send me a PM Nazgul, for although IM has been pressing hard, I'm sure I could make myself available for the good cause. | ||
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Bumblebee
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TArujo
Portugal1687 Posts
On March 14 2013 19:19 Bumblebee wrote: To people saying you need at least 8 hours of sleep to do any kind of professional sports is not true. A perfect example of this is Kobe Bryant who only sleeps 3-4 hours and he's the best player in the NBA. but Kobe probably has power naps in the plane since an NBA team is on the road half the season. But i agree with you, you don't need the classic 8 hours of sleep, i have been doing with between 6-8 hours for years and i never felt any breakdown in my day cycle, neither i felt the need to sleep in the afternoon or after lunch. | ||
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GunSec
1095 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:31 nepeta wrote: New schedule to put TL(O) back on track again, Korean style. 9:30 sc2 a day minimum! Foreigners so lax... 08:00 - 08:30 get up, wash, shave, ramen 08:30 - 11:30 sc2 11:30 - 12:30 ramen and football 12:30 - 18:00 sc2 18:00 - 19:00 ramen and walk outside 19:00 - 22:00 sc2 22:00 - 23:00 fitness 24:00 - 08:00 sleep And of course you won't get the weekends off, what were you thinking?! You may take 5 min/hour to do 50 pushups and 50 squats. If you're doing well again, you'll get half a day off in the weekend, which you'll voluntarily spend playing sc2 of course. I saw EG hired that geezer from SKT1, good move, but send me a PM Nazgul, for although IM has been pressing hard, I'm sure I could make myself available for the good cause. ehhhh...is this the IM coach XD? Let him decide his own schedule ^^ he is just experimenting now. As far as it goes for being unfocused when you have a lot of stuff to do, I feel the same! When I have lots of stuff to do at the same time I tend to not do anything of it all and get lazy. Happy to know that a lot of people are the same like me :D | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
On March 14 2013 19:19 Bumblebee wrote: To people saying you need at least 8 hours of sleep to do any kind of professional sports is not true. A perfect example of this is Kobe Bryant who only sleeps 3-4 hours and he's the best player in the NBA. Exactly. EVen for science, Nikola Tesla slept only 4 hours per day whole his life. It's dependant of person. I know a girl who needs to sleep 12 hours, otherwise, she doesent have energy to live | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
TArujo wrote: but Kobe probably has power naps in the plane since an NBA team is on the road half the season. But i agree with you, you don't need the classic 8 hours of sleep, i have been doing with between 6-8 hours for years and i never felt any breakdown in my day cycle, neither i felt the need to sleep in the afternoon or after lunch. No, he's actually specifically stated many times that he only sleeps 3-4 hours and that's it. There are many blogs and interviews about it and peoples experience with him -- he's really inspirational as a person and athlete in how he perceives things and works. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On March 14 2013 19:52 Bumblebee wrote: No, he's actually specifically stated many times that he only sleeps 3-4 hours and that's it. There are many blogs and interviews about it and peoples experience with him -- he's really inspirational as a person and athlete in how he perceives things and works. Works for one athlete in the world - must be good for everyone. Good logic you have there! | ||
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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
Type|NarutO wrote: Works for one athlete in the world - must be good for everyone. Good logic you have there! The point is everyone works differently and I know from myself that I have higher winrates and better focus with LESS sleep | ||
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Joerg
Germany1 Post
to be honest, from my point of view your weekly schedule looks rather good already. - you have about 40h/week for SC2, which is roughly the usual working hours on a job - staying healthy and balanced obviously is high on your agenda and you scheduled decent slots for this However, as you say, playing SC2 takes a lot of concentration, maybe the real question is how to mix the work actually done on SC2. Thereby staying focused at the sime time while keeping things interesting. Things to consider on which to allocate SC2 time (just some ideas you might have considered already behind your schedule, but want to keep secret  ). - playing 1v1 ladder/streaming - training on mechanics (micro/macro) - casting/watching others play - review of replays (finding out about your particular strengths, weaknesses; write them down and think on actions how to leverage them or improve) - game theory (drafting build orders/strategy trees etc.) - tournament preparation (e.g., review of players) - team discussions (with awesome TeamLiquid!) - fun games like 4v4, or FFA, random ladder, etc. To illustrate what I mean: Just as playing 3-4 hours ladder straight might be quite hard on a regular basis, idea would be to do 1,5-2 hours ladder, then do a short break e.g. having a snack while watching replays, then write down your analysis from replays, then go back to 1,5-2 hours ladder. Enjoy the game! Jörg PS: personally, I would really love to know what your doing on the whole range of SC2 activities listed above | ||
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