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Does sc story depend too much on Kerrigan?

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Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 21:49:25
March 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#1
What would happen with the starcraft story if/when Kerrigan's story eventually comes to an end? I feel like the starcraft's plot progression depends too much on her character. It is a cool character but I guess they can't depend on her forever. Maybe in the future they can set up another hero/villain which will be the center of the plot but with Kerrigan being so emblematic wouldn't it will be hard to reach her status. What do you think?

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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
March 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#2
Forgot about Narud?
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
March 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#3
On March 02 2013 06:49 Cokefreak wrote:
Forgot about Narud?


The problem is that Duran has taken such a massive backseat it would be pretty hard to introduce him into SC2's story at this point while still having it make sense for people who haven't played Brood War.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
March 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#4
On March 02 2013 06:58 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:49 Cokefreak wrote:
Forgot about Narud?


The problem is that Duran has taken such a massive backseat it would be pretty hard to introduce him into SC2's story at this point while still having it make sense for people who haven't played Brood War.

Well Blizzard is pretty good at retconning so they will probably just introduce him as a completely new villain or something.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 22:07:04
March 01 2013 22:05 GMT
#5
I'm actually fairly upset they haven't mentioned Duran yet I liked him in the broodwar campaign lol

I think it's always been largely about kerrigan though, sure there were some parts in broodwar that didn't have much to do with her but she has always been a big part of the picture. Maybe a little bit too much though
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
March 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#6
Someone's angry she took the spotlight
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 01 2013 22:36 GMT
#7
You're just mad she broke up with you to be with the swarm
AnythingThenDelete
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
381 Posts
March 01 2013 22:42 GMT
#8
They didn't reduce the size of her boobs , I think it pretty much answer the question.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
March 01 2013 22:46 GMT
#9
The story of SC1 was the story of a large host of characters and factions.

The story of Wings of Liberty was Jimmy Raynor and friends go on a big adventure.
Heart of the Swarm seems like Kerrigan and friends go on a big adventure.
Legacy of the Void will almost certainly be Zeratul and friends go on a big adventure.

I think you're right to take issue with how single-character-focused the HotS storyline is, but that's not a new development; that shift in the franchise started 2.5 years ago.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 01 2013 22:47 GMT
#10
everyone knows michael bay is working for blizzard making the games flashier and cooler looking
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Kalingingsong
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada633 Posts
March 01 2013 22:49 GMT
#11
On March 02 2013 06:49 Cokefreak wrote:
Forgot about Narud?


forget Narud I want to know what happened to IefNaij.
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:30:21
March 01 2013 23:26 GMT
#12
On March 02 2013 07:46 Iranon wrote:
The story of SC1 was the story of a large host of characters and factions.

The story of Wings of Liberty was Jimmy Raynor and friends go on a big adventure.
Heart of the Swarm seems like Kerrigan and friends go on a big adventure.
Legacy of the Void will almost certainly be Zeratul and friends go on a big adventure.

I think you're right to take issue with how single-character-focused the HotS storyline is, but that's not a new development; that shift in the franchise started 2.5 years ago.


The problem is two-fold:
A) They didn't introduce any new and interesting characters in SC2: WoL (alright, with the exception of the official appearance of the long-known Valerian Mengsk, the official appearance of Nova, the overly optimistic pilot guy, and Tosh)
B) They killed off like 90% of the characters from the SC universe in Brood War's campaigns. Chris Metzen actually talks about this with a little bit of regret at the 2008 Lore panel for SC2; he jokes that the story team was a little bit "angsty" and went with the "this character has served their purpose, they can die now" philosophy far too often in SC1.


Also, to be fair, if you replace each of the game titles with their race and the word "Campaign" after it, you would be describing the structure for both previous Starcraft games as well. The major difference is that we'll have to wait for all three games to have the same amount of quality characters that were in one of the previous titles, so that does slightly suck.
NrG.ZaM
Profile Joined March 2008
United States267 Posts
March 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#13
I see through your ploy, Jim, you just want Blizzard to read this and make you the center of the story in LotV!
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
March 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#14
I miss the old plot with the overmind who's overarching goal was to seek the perfection of his race. That was *cool*. Now we just get Kerrigan who wants vengeance, and sounds epic. Its a really lame replacement, that makes me feel bad to play zerg to the point where I want to play terran now.

I feel like they definitely should maintain the multiple plots; i.e. the protoss have their issues, so do the zerg, so do the terran. And I think to some extent they have accomplished that, it definitely made WoL more interesting. I guess the main issue is just, I would prefer if Kerrigan's character had some more depth to it, and hopefully its not just emotional issues she has to deal with
esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 06:14:30
March 02 2013 06:12 GMT
#15
At some point, the 3 races are going to have to work together (at some level) in legacy of the void to defeat the dark voice and/or Xel'Naga. Kerrigan's character can't continue to be based solely around vengeance if that is to happen. I think this expansion will redefine her character and set us up for the final battle in legacy. I'm very interested to see where they go with it.

Edit: Forgot to mention Narud/Duran. I want to see what plot twists they have in store for him now that he's been re-introduced. I saw he was working with Raynor and Valerian in the excerpt Blizzard posted from the book that takes place between WoL and HotS.
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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
March 02 2013 06:17 GMT
#16
On March 02 2013 09:11 radscorpion9 wrote:
I miss the old plot with the overmind who's overarching goal was to seek the perfection of his race. That was *cool*. Now we just get Kerrigan who wants vengeance, and sounds epic. Its a really lame replacement, that makes me feel bad to play zerg to the point where I want to play terran now.

I feel like they definitely should maintain the multiple plots; i.e. the protoss have their issues, so do the zerg, so do the terran. And I think to some extent they have accomplished that, it definitely made WoL more interesting. I guess the main issue is just, I would prefer if Kerrigan's character had some more depth to it, and hopefully its not just emotional issues she has to deal with


The Zerg race doesn't have a lot of potential for a complex story outside of Kerrigan. The Zerg is ultimately led by one being, who is assisted by multiple yes-men and opposed by everyone else. You get to follow the head-honcho's orders, move crystals around, do favors for Kerrigan, and kill lots and lots of people. Kerrigan is the only 'real' character contained within this race, so everything will center around what she does, and who wants to stop her.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 08:22:47
March 02 2013 08:21 GMT
#17
On March 02 2013 06:49 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
What would happen with the starcraft story if/when Kerrigan's story eventually comes to an end? I feel like the starcraft's plot progression depends too much on her character. It is a cool character but I guess they can't depend on her forever. Maybe in the future they can set up another hero/villain which will be the center of the plot but with Kerrigan being so emblematic wouldn't it will be hard to reach her status. What do you think?


Hehe...I can't help but think that this is a joke...JimmyRaynor just begging for more SC screen time, "Get Kerrigan out of here and focus on me! Maybe we need more Jimmy, less of that infested bitch."
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
March 02 2013 12:25 GMT
#18
I assumed it was because they had leftover plot from the cancelled Ghost adventure game. Then again being the queen of an the entire race in SC2 by default makes her pretty important.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 03 2013 04:59 GMT
#19
At this point, they've ruined the SC story so bad that I don't really care what they do.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 03 2013 06:16 GMT
#20
On March 02 2013 07:36 Chairman Ray wrote:
You're just mad she broke up with you to be with the swarm

Okay THANK YOU. I was wondering whether anyone would comment on the fact that OP's name is Jimmy Raynor...I mean, seriously! That one's just waiting to be taken.

That being said, would agree w/ nina in that the story is just terrible lol, it's like they just up and quit trying to give the campaign any semblance of a compelling narrative because they figured they should only care about multiplayer. Fair enough, I never really cared for campaign anyway tbh >.<
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