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On February 18 2013 23:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Us Asian guys have no chance against white guys. Especially if we're talking Ailee quality females.
Nah, it's not that ridic.
Past a certain age girls will be looking for the man who's emotionally stable and can function as a provider. The color of your skin stops mattering as much as the color of the bills in your wallet.
But it's not just as simple as that. You gotta be subtle. You can't just throw around your salary in their face, obviously--that's the equivalent of a girl who just straight flashes their boobs in a your face--you wouldn't like that very much, in fact, you'd probably be annoyed (unless you were plastered).
I've gotten more play talking about taking care of my neighbor's dog than about how awesome it is to be juggling a two quasi-startups with a full-time job. Girls like a guy who can do stuff--and that has no basis in race or creed. If anything, being Asian is a plus, since it automatically puts you in the 'smart and capable' category. Being practical is the easiest way to get laid, by far.
The sad thing is, it seems once things get heavy, some girls show their gold-digging stripes wayyyy to early for things to make sense.
I mean, come on, is it really that hard? I'd want a girl who is funny, honest, curious, yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, I need one who is independent. I don't need a girl who's sole purpose in life is to settle down with a 250k/yr husband and raise 2.2 kids in a white picket fence. Fuck man, it's not even because I'm stingy--I'd be happy paying for her--I'd just much rather pay for her dreams than pay for her shopping expeditions. She wants to become a film director? Great, sign me up to underwrite her first shoot. She wants to be an artist? I'll rent her a studio. She wants to become a doctor? I'll even pitch in on her med school tuition. I don't want a girl who just wants me for the money and offers nothing but sex and food in return--it makes me feel like I'm engaged to a prostitute. I need independence because I need love, and love (to me) is made not when two people fuck but when two people put their dreams together to make something grand. But if she has no dreams, where do I even start?
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The fuck? Us asian guys have no chance vs white guys? LOL. I have never had any trouble getting a girl due to being Chinese. In fact, the majority of them have tried to use it as a way to connect with me, ie wearing chopsticks in their hair, saying something retarded about Chinese people to get a reaction out of me, trying to talk about pandas etc. This is all from white/latino girls. The Asian girls just try to say something chummy about being Asian and how us Asians gotta stick together etc.
The only places I ever encountered problems was when they brought me home to their parents. THAT was where racism played a role, but generally in my favor, because daughters love to see their daddies squirm. Well, at least the ones I was around. This was in the South, so racism was alive and well.
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I feel like some of the stacked parts when you describe these girls needs to be put in perspective. I'm not saying that to be a pervert, but I live in a town that has a real dearth of an asian population compared to latino, black, and of course white; when I think of stacked it normally is like high D-DD cup or a really big ass, like the sit on your face and suffocate you with room to spare kind (I'm not trying to be racist, but it's just the stereotypes I've been shown since I was a little kid).
On a less immature note, why is it that it seems like asian girls in your blogs seem to prefer white guys over asian guys in the end?
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On February 18 2013 23:41 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 23:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Us Asian guys have no chance against white guys. Especially if we're talking Ailee quality females. Nah, it's not that ridic. Past a certain age girls will be looking for the man who's emotionally stable and can function as a provider. The color of your skin stops mattering as much as the color of the bills in your wallet. But it's not just as simple as that. You gotta be subtle. You can't just throw around your salary in their face, obviously--that's the equivalent of a girl who just straight flashes their boobs in a your face--you wouldn't like that very much, in fact, you'd probably be annoyed (unless you were plastered). I've gotten more play talking about taking care of my neighbor's dog than about how awesome it is to be juggling a two quasi-startups with a full-time job. Girls like a guy who can do stuff--and that has no basis in race or creed. If anything, being Asian is a plus, since it automatically puts you in the 'smart and capable' category. Being practical is the easiest way to get laid, by far. The sad thing is, it seems once things get heavy, some girls show their gold-digging stripes wayyyy to early for things to make sense. I mean, come on, is it really that hard? I'd want a girl who is funny, honest, curious, yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, I need one who is independent. I don't need a girl who's sole purpose in life is to settle down with a 250k/yr husband and raise 2.2 kids in a white picket fence. Fuck man, it's not even because I'm stingy--I'd be happy paying for her--I'd just much rather pay for her dreams than pay for her shopping expeditions. She wants to become a film director? Great, sign me up to underwrite her first shoot. She wants to be an artist? I'll rent her a studio. She wants to become a doctor? I'll even pitch in on her med school tuition. I don't want a girl who just wants me for the money and offers nothing but sex and food in return--it makes me feel like I'm engaged to a prostitute. I need independence because I need love, and love (to me) is made not when two people fuck but when two people put their dreams together to make something grand. But if she has no dreams, where do I even start?
Honestly, Shady, I think you're looking in the wrong places. Especially considering it's Mainland Chinese girls we're talking about here. Think about it. Mainland Chinese girls who come from good backgrounds, are intelligent, and have good educations want the same thing all Chinese want. To get rich. But they're smart, well-bred, and pretty, so they know the easiest way to get rich is to marry into it and they can do that with ease. Why would they waste time with anything else?
From my experience, and from what I've seen in the experiences of numerous rich Chinese men is that marrying a girl from a good family with good education is mostly for political or image purposes. She looks good on paper or she brings you her family's connections. Beyond that, she's useless. Now, aside from the trophy political wife there are two main categories of wives for rich Chinese men: the high school sweetheart and the working girl.
Probably less common now, but most of the old rich Chinese guys I know who got married early on got married to their high school sweetheart. To that woman, her husband was her first, her last, her everything. Slavishly devoted, sometimes even good at business, and lives to support her man. She's probably a lot less common to find in this generation, and most of the time she's a naive, ditzy bimbo because she's never seen much of the world, but that comes with the slavishly devoted I guess.
The other kind of wife, and the kind I think you might want to consider, is the working girl. As in, the girls who work the KTVs, night clubs, bars, streetwalkers. Why do I say this? Because these girls are the real hustlers of Mainland China. They don't come from a great family. They don't have some fancy diploma to brag about. They've seen the seedy underbelly of humanity so they're savvy. They're social chameleons and expert charmers. It just comes with the territory for them. Yet they can be quite attractive. And they know money doesn't grow on trees. They appreciate that shit because they know how hard it is to get, even on their backs.
Every one of my "uncles" who didn't go the high school sweetheart route has a few working girl wives in various Chinese cities who take care of them when they're there, maintain their house, and manage their businesses. When I ask my uncles about it, all of them say their working girl wives are by far the best and have made them way more money than they could have made on their own. Most of these uncles are Taiwanese guys so they have difficulty penetrating local markets and establishing contacts, but when they hook up with a working girl who's local it opens all kinds of doors. And she FIGHTS for the opportunity to do so. She values that shit so much. Because economic opportunity is the one thing she can't get.
So yeah, I think you're looking in the wrong places when it comes to China girls. Take everything Americans believe about women and turn it upside down, and you'd probably have a much better time when it comes to Mainlanders. In China, the whores are honorable and the college grads are criminal.
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I think my problem was that I was around engineering chicks... Who typically annoy the fuck out of me regardless of race. According to Wikipedia white men are 3 times more likely to marry an asian than a black. And Wikipedia is always right! Asian men are 24 more times more likely to marry white instead of black, correctly concluding that asian males are exceptionally good at math and being racist!
So being a racist asian male my wife is white and non-engineering and her parents thought I was Mexican at first. Our kids will look Mexican so I guess they are right.
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On February 18 2013 23:41 Shady Sands wrote:
I mean, come on, is it really that hard? I'd want a girl who is funny, honest, curious, yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, I need one who is independent. I don't need a girl who's sole purpose in life is to settle down with a 250k/yr husband and raise 2.2 kids in a white picket fence. Fuck man, it's not even because I'm stingy--I'd be happy paying for her--I'd just much rather pay for her dreams than pay for her shopping expeditions. She wants to become a film director? Great, sign me up to underwrite her first shoot. She wants to be an artist? I'll rent her a studio. She wants to become a doctor? I'll even pitch in on her med school tuition. I don't want a girl who just wants me for the money and offers nothing but sex and food in return--it makes me feel like I'm engaged to a prostitute. I need independence because I need love, and love (to me) is made not when two people fuck but when two people put their dreams together to make something grand. But if she has no dreams, where do I even start?
How many men even give a shit about this part? The only ones I know aren't even in the bussiness-man, tons of cash group. They're educated and enjoy their work - I guess that's what they have in common, they all love what they do and would chip in overtime just for the passion/deadline. And oh, all of them will slap the managers silly when it comes to setting the deadlines.
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On February 19 2013 00:14 SamsungStar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 23:41 Shady Sands wrote:On February 18 2013 23:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Us Asian guys have no chance against white guys. Especially if we're talking Ailee quality females. Nah, it's not that ridic. Past a certain age girls will be looking for the man who's emotionally stable and can function as a provider. The color of your skin stops mattering as much as the color of the bills in your wallet. But it's not just as simple as that. You gotta be subtle. You can't just throw around your salary in their face, obviously--that's the equivalent of a girl who just straight flashes their boobs in a your face--you wouldn't like that very much, in fact, you'd probably be annoyed (unless you were plastered). I've gotten more play talking about taking care of my neighbor's dog than about how awesome it is to be juggling a two quasi-startups with a full-time job. Girls like a guy who can do stuff--and that has no basis in race or creed. If anything, being Asian is a plus, since it automatically puts you in the 'smart and capable' category. Being practical is the easiest way to get laid, by far. The sad thing is, it seems once things get heavy, some girls show their gold-digging stripes wayyyy to early for things to make sense. I mean, come on, is it really that hard? I'd want a girl who is funny, honest, curious, yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, I need one who is independent. I don't need a girl who's sole purpose in life is to settle down with a 250k/yr husband and raise 2.2 kids in a white picket fence. Fuck man, it's not even because I'm stingy--I'd be happy paying for her--I'd just much rather pay for her dreams than pay for her shopping expeditions. She wants to become a film director? Great, sign me up to underwrite her first shoot. She wants to be an artist? I'll rent her a studio. She wants to become a doctor? I'll even pitch in on her med school tuition. I don't want a girl who just wants me for the money and offers nothing but sex and food in return--it makes me feel like I'm engaged to a prostitute. I need independence because I need love, and love (to me) is made not when two people fuck but when two people put their dreams together to make something grand. But if she has no dreams, where do I even start? Honestly, Shady, I think you're looking in the wrong places. Especially considering it's Mainland Chinese girls we're talking about here. Think about it. Mainland Chinese girls who come from good backgrounds, are intelligent, and have good educations want the same thing all Chinese want. To get rich. But they're smart, well-bred, and pretty, so they know the easiest way to get rich is to marry into it and they can do that with ease. Why would they waste time with anything else? From my experience, and from what I've seen in the experiences of numerous rich Chinese men is that marrying a girl from a good family with good education is mostly for political or image purposes. She looks good on paper or she brings you her family's connections. Beyond that, she's useless. Now, aside from the trophy political wife there are two main categories of wives for rich Chinese men: the high school sweetheart and the working girl. Probably less common now, but most of the old rich Chinese guys I know who got married early on got married to their high school sweetheart. To that woman, her husband was her first, her last, her everything. Slavishly devoted, sometimes even good at business, and lives to support her man. She's probably a lot less common to find in this generation, and most of the time she's a naive, ditzy bimbo because she's never seen much of the world, but that comes with the slavishly devoted I guess. The other kind of wife, and the kind I think you might want to consider, is the working girl. As in, the girls who work the KTVs, night clubs, bars, streetwalkers. Why do I say this? Because these girls are the real hustlers of Mainland China. They don't come from a great family. They don't have some fancy diploma to brag about. They've seen the seedy underbelly of humanity so they're savvy. They're social chameleons and expert charmers. It just comes with the territory for them. Yet they can be quite attractive. And they know money doesn't grow on trees. They appreciate that shit because they know how hard it is to get, even on their backs. Every one of my "uncles" who didn't go the high school sweetheart route has a few working girl wives in various Chinese cities who take care of them when they're there, maintain their house, and manage their businesses. When I ask my uncles about it, all of them say their working girl wives are by far the best and have made them way more money than they could have made on their own. Most of these uncles are Taiwanese guys so they have difficulty penetrating local markets and establishing contacts, but when they hook up with a working girl who's local it opens all kinds of doors. And she FIGHTS for the opportunity to do so. She values that shit so much. Because economic opportunity is the one thing she can't get. So yeah, I think you're looking in the wrong places when it comes to China girls. Take everything Americans believe about women and turn it upside down, and you'd probably have a much better time when it comes to Mainlanders. In China, the whores are honorable and the college grads are criminal.
Sigh... I feel like a hopeless romantic Northerner next to this hard-nosed Taiwanese/Fujianese advice I'm hearing
You're kind of right, but I think that mainland girls *are* changing to an extent. I think a lot of them are getting more... aspirational? At least I hope. I still like Chinese girls a lot, I like their sense of determination and pluck... but sometimes their sheer materialism is a huge turn-off.
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All I know is that this story gets bonus points for referencing "Michigan Avenue."
I'm sure the gold diggers prefer North Avenue though.
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On February 18 2013 18:37 Shady Sands wrote:
foot in my bedroom, if my apartment was "用现金买的" (paid for in full with cash).
On February 18 2013 21:11 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 19:31 Aerisky wrote:
I suppose, but when there's lesson and it's a cautionary tale, usually a normative rather than positive is involved.
Hope you're doing alright. It's definitely tougher depending on your field/environment to find a girl who will be true and open to you after you're out of college and everything, as people are less native/innocent, and more wealth/position-focused after. It's not even like the non-mainstream girls are any less cray-cray I mean, I remember a conversation I had with a one-night stand in bed once This was all in mandarin "I think the simplest way for me to live as a girl is to fuck a bunch of guys and make it so none of them knows whether the resulting kid is theirs" "why" "Then I can let my kid be supported by a bunch of uncles as opposed to one father, it's less risky for me that way" Cue a quick check under the sheets to make sure that I was, indeed, protected And this girl was a Qinghua undergrad too, what the fuck man
................hahhahahaha what the fuck man.
I seriously find that hard to believe. Are you sure you didn't exaggerate any point in there?
On February 18 2013 14:16 SamsungStar wrote:
How is it a brag? These are China girls and if I'm remembering correctly Shady is an American-born Chinese with good career prospects. He might as well be Hugh Hefner to any mainland girl with a brain. It's really not hard to clinch it with those credentials, no matter how hot the mainland girl is.
I 5/5ed. Funny story. And TG gets extra points for making tiramisu with ladyfingers and mascarpone. That's the way it should be done. Not that cake flour, whipped cream disgusting shit I see sometimes. If she uses sweet marsala too, I'd def have kept her around!
I was teasing him and it wasn't said in a bitter tone :D
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On February 19 2013 02:22 Shady Sands wrote:
but sometimes their sheer materialism is a huge turn-off.
isn't it tragic?
so many amazingly cute asian girls dressed up in so much tacky
too bad money can't buy you any class t.t
but really
it's sam who loses out in the end 
On February 18 2013 12:33 Shady Sands wrote:
What starts as tragedy and ends as farce?
FIRST as tragedy, THEN as farce
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On February 19 2013 00:26 Burrfoot wrote:
I think my problem was that I was around engineering chicks... Who typically annoy the fuck out of me regardless of race. According to Wikipedia white men are 3 times more likely to marry an asian than a black. And Wikipedia is always right! Asian men are 24 more times more likely to marry white instead of black, correctly concluding that asian males are exceptionally good at math and being racist!
So being a racist asian male my wife is white and non-engineering and her parents thought I was Mexican at first. Our kids will look Mexican so I guess they are right.
Half-Asians generally look really nice. Your kids will come out fine don't worry abt it
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I love the fact that this thread has now become the asian(chinese) girls bitching therapy session hosted by shady and samsung .
I love samsung's quote about whore honour vs college gold diggers.
As for why is it so hard to find a Chinese girl who has dreams and aspirations that are not just about accumulating material goods/social status and is independent........ thats not a serious questions right??
Lets see;
1.one child policy (princess syndrome)
2. parents who think that "raising children" means throwing money at them whilst they themselves are afk cuz they have to make more money
3. the way asians(chinese) talk about shit in everyday life. its all about the face/material goods, quantifiable symbols of success etc. If you talk about the important yet intangible things in life, you just get a confused WTF look and get called naive
4. complete and utter disdain for poor/unfortunate people
5. one of the main reasons chinese kids go abroad is to get away from their parents. They get money sent to them so they can just party and play all day. but they realize that one day this is going to end so better latch onto another "daddy", cuz otherwise they'll have to get a real job. + Show Spoiler +
Lastly you guys complain too much. According to wiki theres more than 14 million asians in the USA. Theres only 300k in Australia . So quit your bitching, if you can't find one decent girl in 14million then your standards are too high :p
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On February 19 2013 08:38 Shady Sands wrote:
Half-Asians generally look really nice.
Afro-asian kids look the coolest tho!
On February 19 2013 09:26 sths wrote:Lastly you guys complain too much. According to wiki theres more than 14 million asians in the USA. Theres only 300k in Australia . So quit your bitching, if you can't find one decent girl in 14million then your standards are too high :p
My cousins in Taiwan moved to Australia to dodge the draft, so therefore they are harder to find since they are hiding. 100% true and accurate fact(s)!
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On February 19 2013 09:30 Burrfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 08:38 Shady Sands wrote:
Half-Asians generally look really nice. Afro-asian kids look the coolest tho!
Yep and they're also pretty good at golf
Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:26 sths wrote:Lastly you guys complain too much. According to wiki theres more than 14 million asians in the USA. Theres only 300k in Australia . So quit your bitching, if you can't find one decent girl in 14million then your standards are too high :p My cousins in Taiwan moved to Australia to dodge the draft, so therefore they are harder to find since they are hiding. 100% true and accurate fact(s)!
looool. Taiwan still has a draft? Why?
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On February 19 2013 02:22 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 00:14 SamsungStar wrote:On February 18 2013 23:41 Shady Sands wrote:On February 18 2013 23:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Us Asian guys have no chance against white guys. Especially if we're talking Ailee quality females. Nah, it's not that ridic. Past a certain age girls will be looking for the man who's emotionally stable and can function as a provider. The color of your skin stops mattering as much as the color of the bills in your wallet. But it's not just as simple as that. You gotta be subtle. You can't just throw around your salary in their face, obviously--that's the equivalent of a girl who just straight flashes their boobs in a your face--you wouldn't like that very much, in fact, you'd probably be annoyed (unless you were plastered). I've gotten more play talking about taking care of my neighbor's dog than about how awesome it is to be juggling a two quasi-startups with a full-time job. Girls like a guy who can do stuff--and that has no basis in race or creed. If anything, being Asian is a plus, since it automatically puts you in the 'smart and capable' category. Being practical is the easiest way to get laid, by far. The sad thing is, it seems once things get heavy, some girls show their gold-digging stripes wayyyy to early for things to make sense. I mean, come on, is it really that hard? I'd want a girl who is funny, honest, curious, yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, I need one who is independent. I don't need a girl who's sole purpose in life is to settle down with a 250k/yr husband and raise 2.2 kids in a white picket fence. Fuck man, it's not even because I'm stingy--I'd be happy paying for her--I'd just much rather pay for her dreams than pay for her shopping expeditions. She wants to become a film director? Great, sign me up to underwrite her first shoot. She wants to be an artist? I'll rent her a studio. She wants to become a doctor? I'll even pitch in on her med school tuition. I don't want a girl who just wants me for the money and offers nothing but sex and food in return--it makes me feel like I'm engaged to a prostitute. I need independence because I need love, and love (to me) is made not when two people fuck but when two people put their dreams together to make something grand. But if she has no dreams, where do I even start? Honestly, Shady, I think you're looking in the wrong places. Especially considering it's Mainland Chinese girls we're talking about here. Think about it. Mainland Chinese girls who come from good backgrounds, are intelligent, and have good educations want the same thing all Chinese want. To get rich. But they're smart, well-bred, and pretty, so they know the easiest way to get rich is to marry into it and they can do that with ease. Why would they waste time with anything else? From my experience, and from what I've seen in the experiences of numerous rich Chinese men is that marrying a girl from a good family with good education is mostly for political or image purposes. She looks good on paper or she brings you her family's connections. Beyond that, she's useless. Now, aside from the trophy political wife there are two main categories of wives for rich Chinese men: the high school sweetheart and the working girl. Probably less common now, but most of the old rich Chinese guys I know who got married early on got married to their high school sweetheart. To that woman, her husband was her first, her last, her everything. Slavishly devoted, sometimes even good at business, and lives to support her man. She's probably a lot less common to find in this generation, and most of the time she's a naive, ditzy bimbo because she's never seen much of the world, but that comes with the slavishly devoted I guess. The other kind of wife, and the kind I think you might want to consider, is the working girl. As in, the girls who work the KTVs, night clubs, bars, streetwalkers. Why do I say this? Because these girls are the real hustlers of Mainland China. They don't come from a great family. They don't have some fancy diploma to brag about. They've seen the seedy underbelly of humanity so they're savvy. They're social chameleons and expert charmers. It just comes with the territory for them. Yet they can be quite attractive. And they know money doesn't grow on trees. They appreciate that shit because they know how hard it is to get, even on their backs. Every one of my "uncles" who didn't go the high school sweetheart route has a few working girl wives in various Chinese cities who take care of them when they're there, maintain their house, and manage their businesses. When I ask my uncles about it, all of them say their working girl wives are by far the best and have made them way more money than they could have made on their own. Most of these uncles are Taiwanese guys so they have difficulty penetrating local markets and establishing contacts, but when they hook up with a working girl who's local it opens all kinds of doors. And she FIGHTS for the opportunity to do so. She values that shit so much. Because economic opportunity is the one thing she can't get. So yeah, I think you're looking in the wrong places when it comes to China girls. Take everything Americans believe about women and turn it upside down, and you'd probably have a much better time when it comes to Mainlanders. In China, the whores are honorable and the college grads are criminal. Sigh... I feel like a hopeless romantic Northerner next to this hard-nosed Taiwanese/Fujianese advice I'm hearing You're kind of right, but I think that mainland girls *are* changing to an extent. I think a lot of them are getting more... aspirational? At least I hope. I still like Chinese girls a lot, I like their sense of determination and pluck... but sometimes their sheer materialism is a huge turn-off.
Hahah sorry . And yeah, I agree that they are starting to change. But I think it will be 1-2 more generations before they really get off this obsession with money, at least a decent %age of them.
I also really like their sense of determination and pluck, courage, adventurous spirit, etc, but then again isn't all that determination and pluck for the sake of making $$?? The two kind of go hand in hand.
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On February 19 2013 11:59 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:30 Burrfoot wrote:On February 19 2013 08:38 Shady Sands wrote:
Half-Asians generally look really nice. Afro-asian kids look the coolest tho! Yep and they're also pretty good at golf Show nested quote +On February 19 2013 09:26 sths wrote:Lastly you guys complain too much. According to wiki theres more than 14 million asians in the USA. Theres only 300k in Australia . So quit your bitching, if you can't find one decent girl in 14million then your standards are too high :p My cousins in Taiwan moved to Australia to dodge the draft, so therefore they are harder to find since they are hiding. 100% true and accurate fact(s)! looool. Taiwan still has a draft? Why?
Lol yeah, they got a draft. They've been talking about doing away with it though. And they have one because evul PRC might attack at any moment! My dad was an MP when he got drafted. I have to admit, there were some rough times growing up under the guidance of a gangster/MP/1st-gen immigrant.
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how commonly available/used is contraception in mainland china?
edit: nvm, I guess it must be, if they're gonna have a 1child policy. dumb question.
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On February 19 2013 13:53 sam!zdat wrote:
how commonly available/used is contraception in mainland china?
edit: nvm, I guess it must be, if they're gonna have a 1child policy. dumb question.
In my experience, it's rarely used. And for the vast majority of girls I've been with, they just think it's used for preventing pregnancy. They don't really have much understanding of STDs. They also think pulling out works just fine.
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As a Canadian-born Chinese that came from a fairly westernized Hong Kong family, I only realized this "gold-digging" mentality of mainland Chinese girls last year when I met all these new international students from China. At first I found it disgusting, now I start to embrace it. I find comfort in the fact that if I can get a girl with pure wit and charm, I can buy love. Also I know that the Chinese girl I like won't date me because I'm not from money, and hence not mature enough for her. She'll regret it one day when I have money! HA!
From Shady Sands's Chinese Economy Post: "看来你当初选错了...可惜现在后悔也来不及了"
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=366300
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