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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
February 10 2013 21:56 GMT
#1
I’ve been away from this blog for a little while so I apologize for the huge gap. I spent a lot of hours throwing together an application for the TL SC2 Writer positions and got side tracked with some other projects. But I’m back! This post is going to be pretty ramblomatic and will just be some thoughts on the TLS.

So in the past, I spoke about getting a little more into competitive Brood War. I got to watch some ProLeague, MSL, and OSL but the Korean professional Brood War scene was on its way out when I started following. Needless to say, things like Snipealot’s stream and SOSPA have been really nice. But I always wanted to watch a high level foreign based tournament like MLG just to see what that was like. Luckily, the new TeamLiquid Legacy Starleague stepped up to fill this void.

Pro7ect
I remember when I first started following some BW stuff, Pro7ect was one of my favorite streamers and he played in a lot of the Russian/Foreign BW tours. When it was announced he was going to start playing SC2, I was a bit sad. Really really glad he’s back and he’s come on real strong during the Weekend of the non-Zerg qualifiers. And I laughed when he had something like 500 apm. Spam or not I don’t think I could register that much.

I always liked how Pro7ect’s builds always seem well thought out. He’s got a plan and it sticks to it. I know he says in his interview that he freestyles a lot of his builds but it doesn’t seem that way to me. Oh I’m going to mech on this map. Oh this map is good for bio so I’m going to go all out with macro. He seems like a very solid, safe player. Unlike G5.

G5

G5 seems to be a more of a risk taker; his play style being a foil to Pro7ect. I distinctly remember watching one match where G5 defended a zergling rush with two cannons and a handful of zealots. Honestly before this, I’ve only ever heard hearsay about G5. I knew he was on EG when they still had a BW squad and that the EG guys would talk about him on State of the Game, but I never got to see him play. So I was pretty thrilled that he was playing AND he’s on Team USA AND he was Protoss. Really cool. Sayle was hyping him by saying he also beat Boxer, which I had no idea about. For anyone who’s a little late to the BW scene like myself, I found a casted VOD of the matches here (Game 1) and here (Game 2). So finally getting to watch him play was a real treat. I finally had my curiousity sated.

G5 seems to have a very fluid, risk taking style. He has his own gameplay quirks which threw off Sayle’s and Elegant’s casting. For example, in the Qualifier #5, Game 2, G5 vs Zergboy, he tries to mine out the back path minerals to try a sneaky sneaky attack later. Zergboy’s early pokes deter this and he then transitions into a zealot/archon push. I usually see storms and mass goons/zealots when I watch PvZ. And I don’t often see tricksy moves like that. I think it’s refreshing to see a game that doesn’t play out the way everyone expects it to. Sometimes I feel like BW games seem over after like 5-10 minutes because the casters and old-school fans just know how the game plays out.


Has anyone else been watching the TLS? Have any favorite games or players? And is anyone else loving the Periphery intro song?

*****
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
February 10 2013 22:06 GMT
#2
HawaiianPig is a beast :D

I'm really looking forward Draw's games, expecting some mad shuttle abuse
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 10 2013 23:09 GMT
#3
I've been watching TLS when I could. It's awesome to see BW still being played. A lot of the PvZ games have been a ton of fun to watch.

I miss KeSPA BW so much ):
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 00:09:31
February 11 2013 00:02 GMT
#4
G5 back in mid to late 2000's was the best Protoss in America hands down. I remember him one time beating Machine in a PvZ and then after the game said on ventrilo: "Man. I gotta get out of this hammock. Playing on my back with my laptop on my chest is painful." Machine flipped out. I don't know if G5 exaggerated that statement but when I've met and talked to him over the years, he is the kind of guy that never lies or makes up fluff. Was hilarious. I'm glad to see he is doing so well and I'm rooting for him

He was always hilarious to cast because of how unexpected his play style is. Glad to see that hasn't changed.

G5 fighting!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
February 11 2013 00:05 GMT
#5
I tune into TLS whenever I can. When I first heard Muramasa in the teaser vid I knew it was the perfect song for this, daresay even better than Prayer of the Refugee.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
February 11 2013 03:52 GMT
#6
On February 11 2013 09:02 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
G5 back in mid to late 2000's was the best Protoss in America hands down. I remember him one time beating Machine in a PvZ and then after the game said on ventrilo: "Man. I gotta get out of this hammock. Playing on my back with my laptop on my chest is painful." Machine flipped out. I don't know if G5 exaggerated that statement but when I've met and talked to him over the years, he is the kind of guy that never lies or makes up fluff. Was hilarious. I'm glad to see he is doing so well and I'm rooting for him

He was always hilarious to cast because of how unexpected his play style is. Glad to see that hasn't changed.

G5 fighting!

Are you forgetting about Nony?
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51506 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 04:08:33
February 11 2013 04:06 GMT
#7
lol G5 was good no doubt about it (better than louder/future/ranged etc for sure), but saying he was better than nony during his peak is a joke.
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
February 16 2013 01:35 GMT
#8
Whenever Nony and G5 played they always had some good games but yeah, I will concede that Nony was a superior player in the late game compared to G5 but G5 always had way more exciting play imho.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
February 18 2013 00:11 GMT
#9
I know Nony was good and I watched some of his play, but what stuck with me is that hi s game face is more lethal/scary than Jaedong's. I see Nony's glare in my dreams sometimes....it haunts me lol
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
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