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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 04:10:00
December 03 2011 01:46 GMT
#1
I was not a Brood War fan.

In all honesty, I didn’t even know that there was a professional Brood War scene until I started following Pro-StarCraft 2 at the start of SC2’s release. I had heard of the Brood War scene but I couldn’t name a single pro-gamer. What’s even worse is that my friend Fallen and I had played countless hours of UMS games in Brood War (I’ll forever have a soft spot for Lurker Defense games) and I didn’t even know he was B/B+ on iCCup. I played hundreds of hours of UMS and Fastest Maps games and literally had zero idea about the entire competitive scene.

I feel that as a StarCraft 2 fan, I’m almost obligated to be BW fan. Ever play the State of the Game game where you bet over/under on how long it will take BW to be mentioned? Ever read about the BW vs SC2 threads where everyone laments about how bad SC2 is in comparison? Ever heard the squeals and cheers anytime BoxeR is mentioned? The endless love for NonY?

I don’t fully understand all of this. Yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZNdaEM9SfI#t=0m12

Pimpest Play 2004: DAT ‘RINE MICRO


This was my first real exposure to the pro-BW scene. Fallen sent me this clip for some reason and I remember I watched it over and over and over again. This shit is wild; it still hurts my head every time I watch it. Since then, I’ve caught glimpses of BW history. A few BoxeR matches on nevake….some BW streams….a few questions here and there. But there’s so much I still don’t know.

Finally I have started to explore this MASSIVE history that has eluded me. The 10 years of epicness that I missed out on.

I recently started an internship that is super laid-back. With lots of downtime and no internet filters, I started to seriously watch nevake VODs. I watched the TSL2 finals with NonY versus Mondragon. Holy shit that was wild. Corsair/Reaver is pretty fun to watch. I finally SAW why NonY is so beloved. Then as Team 8 was being formed and players like Midas and Tempest retired, I watched more and more VODs. Tempest’s hero dragoon? Goddamn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG1U25luMOA#t=6m18

Tempest vs Light 1/3/2009 MBC Survivor: DAT ‘GOON MICRO


Fast forward to Saturday 11/26 when I watched my first live ProLeague match ever: Grape versus free. I then managed to miss JangBi versus Light and Stork versus Zero (Bad CPTBadAss, Bad). The thing that gets me every time is that the builds are so crisp; it’s so refined. I remember listening to Day[9] and Chill talking about the finer points of an Overpool (I had to Liquipedia that bad boy). It boggles my mind that BW fans and players can decipher a build order based on supplies 8 through 10. If he builds drone at 8 or extractor at 9, people can see EXACTLY where the build goes at 100-150 supply.

Next day, I watched Hero win Dreamhack Winter 2011 with Fallen. While waiting for the Quake finals to end, we went to get coffee. And I tried asking him about sAviOr and the match-fixing scandal. As he explained the drama to me, I realized that it was literally only a year ago that it happened but to me, it felt like another universe.

Brood War is SO fascinating.

Remember that State of the Game when Day[9] asked that if basketball and American football can co-exist, why can’t Brood War and StarCraft 2? I agree. I may be chobo at Brood War, but I WANT TO KNOW. I’ll leave you with these last two items:

From "Why we love Brood War"

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(o.O) Holy shit, someone fill me in!




From what if i told you

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VkN0spswwg

How can this NOT inspire us noobs?



I want to know. To all the Brood War faithful, please educate this humble noob.

Edit: I repeated myself =X


*****
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
December 03 2011 02:07 GMT
#2
Seems to me you're doing a pretty good job yourself
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
December 03 2011 02:14 GMT
#3
This is another good thread to check out. Lots of people shared their favorite things about BW.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281

Although... if you really want to love BW...

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then you must become a Bisu fan :D
Writer:o
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 03 2011 02:16 GMT
#4
On December 03 2011 11:14 Kiett wrote:
This is another good thread to check out. Lots of people shared their favorite things about BW.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280281

Although... if you really want to love BW...

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then you must become a Bisu fan :D


Don't do it!!

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SBG all the way!


:p
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
December 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#5
How about ... jaedong sweating buckets?
starleague forever
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
December 03 2011 02:17 GMT
#6
Watch the old Cholera and Klazart videos somewhere in the great beyond.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
December 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#7
If you want to know about how manly reach is, watch any Cholera cast of Reach. Also:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/52_SKY2002_OSL

Also, also:

(and I'll just answer ahead of time, yes, those girls screaming are from simultaneous orgasms)

also, also, also:

(Definitely top 3 storms of all time against 2009 Flash, other great ones are JB vs. Nada and Nony vs. Idra.)

You should also watch the Bisu vs. Savior MSL final casted by Day9 and Nony if you haven't already.
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
December 03 2011 02:24 GMT
#8
THE HOLY WARS! :D
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
December 03 2011 02:25 GMT
#9
Thanks for all the videos so far guys, really appreciate it ^_^.

@Count9: Could you link me to that Bisu vs Savior game?

@Kiett: I may or may not have fallen in love with Jaedong and Flash. Sorry man! =X
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
December 03 2011 02:34 GMT
#10
Check out some of these videos!




Moderatorgold coin
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 02:37:19
December 03 2011 02:36 GMT
#11
I can help you with some of those. In the order I felt like looking them up:

Flash's Robotic Eye

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Reach's Manliness

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Kwanro's Flowchart

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Firebathero's Dance Moves

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Effort's Invasion

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Jaedong's Death Stare

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[image loading]


Nada's Brilliance

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Nal_rA's Dreams

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I drop suckas like Plinko
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
December 03 2011 03:09 GMT
#12
^ thanks for distracting me from studying from finals -__-
Long live BroodWar!
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
December 03 2011 03:15 GMT
#13
Also, try watching as many of the upcoming proleague matches as you can, they are going to be epic
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 03 2011 03:39 GMT
#14
Here are your plans for the next month:

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LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
December 03 2011 04:02 GMT
#15
@Ares: Dem links o.O. Thanks!!

@Gann1: Holy shit, you're the MAN =)

@Chef: Dude, I've been watching Sayle's english Brood War commentaries at work. It's wild. But I appreciate the calendar so much <3.

New rules everyone, no more random posting things (This means you Mr. Entertaining.) I DEMAND EXPLANATIONS ^_^
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 03 2011 04:25 GMT
#16
The Holy Wars, were the games between sAviOr and Nal_Ra, before the days of that womanly toss, aka Bisu, Midas and Nal_Ra were the ones who challenged sAviOr. Most notably Nal_Ra and sAviOr's series in Pringles MSL Season 1 and 2, were referred to as the Holy Wars.
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 04:38:05
December 03 2011 04:27 GMT
#17
Games with subtitles of what the Korean commentators are saying:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65727

A thread of people sharing their favorite BW games/moments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=153906

Gom Star Invitational Finals. This is when Tasteless was pretty new to commentating, and Flash was a young rising star. These finals, Flash vs Stork, are incredibly exciting:

http://www.gomtv.net/gsi/
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 05:11:08
December 03 2011 04:52 GMT
#18
Stork's Golden Carrier Badge:

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Stork is known as the Supreme Commander because of his amazing carrier play. A few years ago, fans made him a golden carrier badge, and even now you'll often see him wear it next to his OSL badge ^^

[image loading]

[image loading]


No clue what the Bisu cough (is it 어헣?)/ninja mask is though. I'm a bad fan T__T

edit:

here's Bisu vs. Savior MSL finals

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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 03 2011 04:57 GMT
#19
Watch any game with Flash and be amazed at how he never loses (okay well almost never loses).
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
December 03 2011 07:01 GMT
#20
Holy shit, I think Jaedong's glare penetrated my soul @.@
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
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