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lilsusie
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
On December 03 2011 21:41 lilsusie wrote: It makes me warm and fuzzy inside when I see SC2 peoples wanting to love BW ^_^ Definitely. Instead of disregarding it purely based on its aesthetics (like what my friend does) | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
I actually kinda surprised no one has recommended Day9 when comes to actually learning more about BW. All his earliest stuff is BW centric. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
That build was so sick. It's no wonder why many toss players are trying to imitate Bisu's style in SC2 (only HerO is succeeding). Careful there coach. People misunderstanding the bisu build (especially English commentators) is infamously mocked. it's not just a forge expansion or pylon at your natural. I'm not sure SC2 really even has the units to make it's own Bisu build... | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
@awwnuts07: OMG, that Sair/DT build? Genius. It makes too much sense. Plus, I like the *pew pew* noise out of the corsairs and the *shummmmm shummmmm* noise that Dark Templars make. ^_^ | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
On December 04 2011 01:32 Chef wrote: Careful there coach. People misunderstanding the bisu build (especially English commentators) is infamously mocked. it's not just a forge expansion or pylon at your natural. I'm not sure SC2 really even has the units to make it's own Bisu build... I didn't mean to say HerO was trying to recreate the Beesuit in particular, but that HerO is trying to develop a style that is similar to Bisu's. But we're digressing from the OP's topic. This isn't an SC2 discussion, but I will say I'm glad there are players in the SC2 scene that are moving the game more towards a BW style. To the OP, I'm going to guess from your icon that you're a terran player. Even if that is the case, I still highly suggest watching Bisu. Be in awe of his god-like mutli-tasking and incredible hair. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 04 2011 02:01 awwnuts07 wrote: I didn't mean to say HerO was trying to recreate the Beesuit in particular, but that HerO is trying to develop a style that is similar to Bisu's. But we're digressing from the OP's topic. This isn't an SC2 discussion, but I will say I'm glad there are players in the SC2 scene that are moving the game more towards a BW style. To the OP, I'm going to guess from your icon that you're a terran player. Even if that is the case, I still highly suggest watching Bisu. Be in awe of his god-like mutli-tasking and incredible hair. What do you mean a style similar to Bisu ? He's the biggest jaedong look alike ever ! + Show Spoiler + Ok, I'm out But don't watch Bisu. He's bad, the only thing he's good at is flipping fast between screens. If you have to watch a protoss, watch someone smart, like Nal_rA or Stork. + Show Spoiler + Well, there's already enough Bisu fans on teamliquid, you can't blame me can't you ? | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On December 04 2011 01:32 Chef wrote: Careful there coach. People misunderstanding the bisu build (especially English commentators) is infamously mocked. it's not just a forge expansion or pylon at your natural. I'm not sure SC2 really even has the units to make it's own Bisu build... Oh combat-ex.... | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50654 Posts
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On December 04 2011 02:22 corumjhaelen wrote: What do you mean a style similar to Bisu ? He's the biggest jaedong look alike ever ! + Show Spoiler + Ok, I'm out But don't watch Bisu. He's bad, the only thing he's good at is flipping fast between screens. If you have to watch a protoss, watch someone smart, like Nal_rA or Stork. + Show Spoiler + Well, there's already enough Bisu fans on teamliquid, you can't blame me can't you ? LOL Idra gtfo this thread :p + Show Spoiler + there can never be enough Bisu | ||
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Fallen33
United States596 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On December 04 2011 14:40 Fallen33 wrote: If you want a real Protoss, then watch Reach or Nal_rA, Kingdom, Stork... Bisu is meh to me Definitely. Real Protosses don't bother with lame shit like 3-0ing Savior at his prime, winning consecutive MSLs (defeating Stork as well, no less), or revolutionizing the PvZ matchup. I love Stork, Reach, Nal_rA, Kingdom, Jangbi, etc. too, but I don't understand why this blog has suddenly turned into an Antagonize Bisu thread. Why not just watch them all? They all have their own charm, different styles, strengths, and weaknesses, and their games are all enjoyable. We should be promoting more BW (and more Brotoss love!), not discouraging the OP from watching certain players -__- | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On December 04 2011 15:13 Kiett wrote: Definitely. Real Protosses don't bother with lame shit like 3-0ing Savior at his prime, winning consecutive MSLs (defeating Stork as well, no less), or revolutionizing the PvZ matchup. I love Stork, Reach, Nal_rA, Kingdom, Jangbi, etc. too, but I don't understand why this blog has suddenly turned into an Antagonize Bisu thread. Why not just watch them all? They all have their own charm, different styles, strengths, and weaknesses, and their games are all enjoyable. We should be promoting more BW (and more Brotoss love!), not discouraging the OP from watching certain players -__- Real Protosses bother winning OSLs though. They also don't lose to Hyvaa. | ||
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Milkis
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On December 04 2011 15:46 Milkis wrote: Real Protosses bother winning OSLs though. They also don't lose to Hyvaa. Cool fast edit, before I was able to say Bisu's made it to the Ro8 in Daum 07, EVER 07, Bacchus 08, Incruit 08, and Batoo 09, 2 of which were also Ro4s. Of course, you're right, he's yet to win actually one. But if OSL winners are the only real players and the only ones worth watching, well, we'd be rather short on those, wouldn't we? Only 23 players in 12 years. I guess Zero, Hydra, Sea, Light, Leta, Kal, Iris, Chojja, and 95% of the rest of the progamers aren't real players. I guess Yellow wasn't a real Zerg, and Midas wasn't a real Terran. I suppose by other your criteria, Jangbi (0-3 against Hyvaa), Reach (0-1), and Anytime (0-2) also aren't real Protosses. Oh, and since Hyvaa helped knock Jaedong out of the last OSL, Jaedong is no longer a real zerg either. How do a couple of losses at a certain given time invalidate a person's status as a "real" player? Flash got eliminated from the PDPop MSL 0-2 by Ssak and Classic. Does that automatically make him bad? And throughout all of this, you've ignored the actual point I was making: What is the purpose of discouraging the OP from watching certain players? If you don't personally like Bisu or his play, no problem, but the thread title was "Help me love BW," not "Tell me what you hate about BW." From what I see, the OP watched Bisu vs. Savior, and he enjoyed it. It should be up to him to decide which games are worth watching or not. I don't see why people can't just recommend their favorite players and moments without detracting from the opinions of others and making fellow BW fans feel shitty. We should be working together to get more people interested in BW, not pissing on each other over which players are better. | ||
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
but seriously foget about prettyboy Bisu, the manliest protoss you should idolize is Reach. but if you like bisu, then this is a must watch | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On December 04 2011 17:04 Kiett wrote: Cool fast edit, before I was able to say Bisu's made it to the Ro8 in Daum 07, EVER 07, Bacchus 08, Incruit 08, and Batoo 09, 2 of which were also Ro4s. Of course, you're right, he's yet to win actually one. But if OSL winners are the only real players and the only ones worth watching, well, we'd be rather short on those, wouldn't we? Only 23 players in 12 years. I guess Zero, Hydra, Sea, Light, Leta, Kal, Iris, Chojja, and 95% of the rest of the progamers aren't real players. I guess Yellow wasn't a real Zerg, and Midas wasn't a real Terran. I suppose by other your criteria, Jangbi (0-3 against Hyvaa), Reach (0-1), and Anytime (0-2) also aren't real Protosses. Oh, and since Hyvaa helped knock Jaedong out of the last OSL, Jaedong is no longer a real zerg either. How do a couple of losses at a certain given time invalidate a person's status as a "real" player? Flash got eliminated from the PDPop MSL 0-2 by Ssak and Classic. Does that automatically make him bad? And throughout all of this, you've ignored the actual point I was making: What is the purpose of discouraging the OP from watching certain players? If you don't personally like Bisu or his play, no problem, but the thread title was "Help me love BW," not "Tell me what you hate about BW." From what I see, the OP watched Bisu vs. Savior, and he enjoyed it. It should be up to him to decide which games are worth watching or not. I don't see why people can't just recommend their favorite players and moments without detracting from the opinions of others and making fellow BW fans feel shitty. We should be working together to get more people interested in BW, not pissing on each other over which players are better. Never mess with a bisu fan girl  , still I rather be watching  JangBi,Stork,Stats over Bisu that's just my preference ;D | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
I'm sure you know by now that the very best articles written on BW (aside from Korean articles) are the TLFEs, or Team Liquid Final Edits. They helped me rediscover my love for BW after leaving it for 5 years (due to iloveoov's emotional win over boxer). If on the off chance you haven't read them, please do read the following (no order) 1. God of the Battlefield part 1 by Ver (deepest article in terms of strategy and showcases the fallen Maestro's genius) 2. I Loved Victory part 1 and 2 by Plexa (absolutely amazing piece on the most powerful mind to have ever graced BW) 3. The Storm Zerg by pubbanana (very emotional and beautiful piece on the greatest finalist of all time) 4. Only Until Midnight by HonestTea (another emotional and beautiful piece on the history of the game) 5. I spit hot fire by Sp1ralArch1tect (funniest TLFE which'll make you appreciate the importance of being unique) and then read the following in order 1. Revolutionary Magic by Hot_Bid (Bisu) 2. Heir Apparent by Hot_Bid (Jaedong) 3. The Ultimate Weapon by DocHelvetica (Flash) | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
On December 05 2011 00:56 Caladbolg wrote: LOL Kiett you are awesome. But I'm sure they were kidding. If not, well, they should be pitied because they aren't Bisu fans. I'm sure you know by now that the very best articles written on BW (aside from Korean articles) are the TLFEs, or Team Liquid Final Edits. They helped me rediscover my love for BW after leaving it for 5 years (due to iloveoov's emotional win over boxer). If on the off chance you haven't read them, please do read the following (no order) 1. God of the Battlefield part 1 by Ver (deepest article in terms of strategy and showcases the fallen Maestro's genius) 2. I Loved Victory part 1 and 2 by Plexa (absolutely amazing piece on the most powerful mind to have ever graced BW) 3. The Storm Zerg by pubbanana (very emotional and beautiful piece on the greatest finalist of all time) 4. Only Until Midnight by HonestTea (another emotional and beautiful piece on the history of the game) 5. I spit hot fire by Sp1ralArch1tect (funniest TLFE which'll make you appreciate the importance of being unique) and then read the following in order 1. Revolutionary Magic by Hot_Bid (Bisu) 2. Heir Apparent by Hot_Bid (Jaedong) 3. The Ultimate Weapon by DocHelvetica (Flash) Thanks for the list. I didn't realize there were so many. Are there any more articles an aspiring BW fan should know about? Also, guys, I think this thread is getting off topic. | ||
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CPTBadAss
United States594 Posts
Also, my ears are still ringing from when I watched Reach's Lockdown from the Pimpest Plays. Those fan girls man.... | ||
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