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February 06 2013 19:25 GMT
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On February 05 2013 14:56 p4NDemik wrote:
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On February 05 2013 13:47 Treehead wrote:
On February 05 2013 09:25 p4NDemik wrote:
On February 04 2013 18:33 Recognizable wrote:
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Professor Philip Zimbardo conveys how our individual perspectives of time affect our work, health and well-being. Time influences who we are as a person, how we view relationships and how we act in the world.

The thing about only 20% of Americans families having meals together, as opposed to 60% doing so 20 years ago, that was pretty crazy. As someone who sat down to eat dinner with my family pretty much every weekday as a child it's hard to imagine never doing that and how that would impact my life.


They did say "sit down at a table and have dinner together". I wonder if meals in front of the TV counted for this study.

Interesting video - but it doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know. People have no attention span (and a high pace of time) and they tend to pursue pleasure and avoid pain. Can anyone really say that present hedonism was less prominent back in the 1400s or even the 1900s than they are now? Or is it possible (dare I say, even likely) that while the man of 100 years ago indulged in present hedonism by other means, but not necessarily less.

The video makes it seem as though the Id (the basic part of you, conceptualize first by.... Freud - or someone - which avoids pain and seeks pleasure) is a new concept and is a biproduct of technology. It isn't. It's changing the way we pursue these urges, but it's not like people are fundamentally after different things than they were 100 years ago. Instead of dirty magazines and brothels, we have the internet. In place of overindulging in drink and food (by eating a LOT), we have overindulging in drink and food by WHAT we eat and drink. Instead of being worried about falling down a well or something, we're worried about getting hit by a car. People have not made themselves nearly as different as they'd like to believe - but every generation seems to want to think something about the "kids" are fundamentally different so that they don't have to admit that it is their perspective (and not people in general) which are changing.

My 2c.

As far as the traditional family dinner table stat goes that's what I meant to say, and its still very surprising for me. I'd assume familial TV dinners weren't counted because the behavior is completely different.

As for the rest of your post I'm not sure what you're arguing for. You're making a bunch of broad assumptions as to what that guy's thoughts would be on this topic's relation to Freudian psychology when there was no mention of this in the video. Other than that you're 2 cents seem are completely compatible with what is presented in the video. You seem to be acknowledging that the world, our perspective within this world, and our behavior is changing. At the same time you assert that "people in general" are not changing. What is the phrase "People in general are not changing" supposed to mean? That's a rather broad and undefined assertion to make.


I think you're giving me a tad bit more credit than I deserve. I saw what he described as "Present Hedonism" and what was described to me in my high school psychology class as the "Id", and said "but those are the same thing". But the video seems to imply that technology is responsible for people remaining present hedonists, while my early psychology class asserts that people on many levels remain that way anyway.

Our behavior is changing. We do things differently. People hundreds of years ago did not drive cars. But the prominence of present hedonism in society is not changing - it has always been prominent and unless something monumental is done will likely always remain so. While he doesn't directly say that the prominence of present hedonism in society is new, he certainly seems to dance pretty close to that point.

Perhaps the point he was making was that educators need to do more to engage kids the way they like to be engaged in today's society. I agree with that. Or perhaps he was saying that something needs to be done to meter the amount of "fast pace of time" that we find in our children. But from the standpoint of someone who has limited control on either of those things, the message we take away from videos like these are that different facets of society are coming together in a way which makes our society bad. As a parent, it makes the knee-jerk portion of my brain say "unplug my kid now"! As a lover of technology, it makes the knee-jerk portion of my brain say "everyone who runs schools are so dumb".

The truth of the matter is likely that technology and education will find a way to coalesce over time, and in the meantime - you grew up in a society driven by present hedonism anyway (for what is capitalism if not necessitating present hedonism on private entities via survival of the fittest?), and really - you didn't turn out nearly so bad as you could have.
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