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So basically in 2014 the regulations for Bulgarians and Romanians to work in UK will be removed and everyone from our two countries can go and work in england. This is not accepted well from the british society and in the recent months this is accompanied by a histeria from the british media the end result of which are some kind of posters that aim to scare the "millions" of people who will enter UK on 01.01.2014. Posters like this :
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you can see more here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2013/jan/29/immigration-britain-ministers-gallery
I wont lie, as a Bulgarian I find this stuff kinda sad and insulting. I mean, come on, is this really necessary? Do the British really think we are some kind of morons and they need this lame sarcastic posters, so we can get what they really think? I wonder why they dont make posters about the thousand of englishmen coming in the summer on our resorts with the only aim to drink cheap alcohol all day, disrespect everyone, make trouble and start fights. Or the occasional british pedofile who have come to live here and is caught raping or killing children in the small villages?
I know people from UK think very highly of themselves, but they need to realize that its not 1750 anymore and accept the modern, globalized world.
Also I must remind that almost every bulgarian working in UK is hired by a British company. In most cases they are working the dirtiest and lowest paid jobs, although a lot of the people going there have university education. So UK, get your shit together and stop acting stupid.
 
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I think every modern country also has a large group of xenophobe conservatives as well as moderated scepticists regarding globalization, especially due to the suddenness of the way rules are changed.
Let's be honest, every country has idiots who fail in their own country and it is often these idiots who come looking for 'tons of free money' elsewhere. That is not to say everyone from their country is like them, and this poster is obviously not aimed at the intellectual part of societies who can contribute to the country they migrate to.
Don't be insulted so easily, think about the idiots who made this campaign and just sit back and laugh about it like a real adult.
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This blog is hilarious.
Britain has serious problems with immigration, we have approximately 2.49 million unnemployed people and more often than not, you are better off having a child and living on benefits than you are working for minimum wage.
The problem is, a lot of (hard working) europeans come to Britain and will hapilly do these jobs that for a lot of us, arent worth doing. With a child, you can get approximately £1400 each month, I went to university, work in a management role and I don't take home a great deal more than that after tax, so you can imagine how completely not worth doing a minimum wage job is for a lot of people.
Unfortunately the horse has now bolted, meaning we cant just kick them all out because it's against their human rights, you can understand why a minority of our populace resent europeans coming to work here. You mention a minority of Brits being disrespectful, they do not represent Britain.
I'm half Polish and I speak out when people disrespect Polish people, like I say, it's a minority of people.
If you're going to flip out over a few .jpg's then you need thicker skin.
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Cheers for generalising every single Briton based over a xenophobic, conservative group of racist arseholes who are very much in the minority.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
Lol the reason this is being spoke about is because it is true.
It has nothing to do with how clever you are, but the money you get for "cleaning the loo" is probably the most money you would have ever earnt in a job. That is the reason for these signs. Europeans come over, do the easy jobs, and reep the benefits from the goverment/councils/NHS and have a much better lifestyle than that of back home.
Also i don't get why people would want to come over to England and work low level easy jobs for good money and get free NHS (health care) and free medicine for babies and a free house paid by the council. I have no idea why people would want to come to England.
Why do we go to Romania/Bulgaria? One reason, it's THE SUN, we don't get it in England, we go on holiday to see it, relax and some people get drunk with it.
Also, the reason why most people are pissed off we have an open gate to allow people in, is due to the fact their is NO room in England ;_;
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Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
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On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party.
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On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
Nigel Farage is an awesome man and the leader of the UKIP (UK Independence Party). He has a great following (mainly because of things like this), and it's completely up to the country if they want to allow foreigners in or not to work. Those who dislike him are at their own to feel that way, but without looking into it I wouldn't pass judgement on him or his ideologies.
My opinion is that we should shut the borders to allow the UK to grow internally rather than having foreigners come in and take jobs that could potentially be occupied by graduates from college who are, at the moment, being forced to take the route of debt and go to University. (I came to University by choice; but a lot of my friends have or are having to be forced into it)
It may seem "harsh" but it really isn't. We've been taking in plenty of residents from other countries for years, it was always going to hit the reality that we don't need or want as many that are coming. One of the only reasons that we are still allowing immigration is due to the EU, which could end extremely soon.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
Also do you not know what the majority of Romanian people do in England? Or do you think they are all just like regular people who want to come over to England and find a better job than they could in Romania?
As you like the daily mail lets link you some of there news pieces;
Romanians
Romanians
Sun Version Is Over The Top, But Funny
More Gang Related Romanians
Main reason English don't like Romanians in England is due to them being a victim of pick pocketing or seen the hoards of them around
Pick Pockets!
On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party.
Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he?
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Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
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Out of interest Pandemona, where do your political beliefs lie? And why are you linking Daily Mail articles,let's be honest it's a joke paper -.-
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On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP?
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On January 30 2013 22:46 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party. Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he?
The party being populist is what made it into the 3rd biggest party (populism + dumb voters = win).
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
Well to be honest name an English paper which isn't a joke? They all make up 90% of their stories and talk aload of crap to make you buy them
I rarely buy a paper, if i do it is for sport.
Politically, i don't really have an elegance to any of them.
I like what the conservatives are doing with our country at the moment, somethings i dislike, but i like the general direction we are going at the moment and think they are the right people in charge.
As for Europe i would say i agree with some of UKIPs policies (SOME). What is the point of being in Europe if it just costs us more than we need, we have to do what they say whether we think it is right or wrong and have to allow more people into our country as stated above, even though WE ARE FULL! It's not even a case of whether they have jobs or can find jobs, it is due to the fact we have no space ;_;
Costs us £50million a day to stay in Europe and be told what to do by people in power that just want to look after themselves, not even for their countries. It is quite a joke really Europe, but that is another topic. And as my friend just reminded me, the EU as a whole probably wont exists in the near future, as more than just England will be pulling out!
On January 30 2013 23:03 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party. Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he? The party being populist is what made it into the 3rd biggest party (populism + dumb voters = win).
Well isn't every party the same logic as that then?
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Why were there laws against Bulgarians and Romanians working in (migrating to?) England there in the first place? What were they (ban/illegal, or what?), and Why were they removed?
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On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
I'm sorry, you can't generalise Brits abroad then sweep this under the carpet.
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On January 30 2013 23:01 Zeuben wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did. What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP?
Wow, what a double standard. Really? Those are gypsies and not those hard working Romanians of old? Give me a break. This blog is ridiculous, and this comment makes it even more obvious. I'm sorry that some internet images have soiled your image of Britain, and that a small, vocal minority of people have ruined the promise of England for you; I say this especially when Britain has had issues with Romanians in the past with gangs and such, and your answer to that is that these people aren't Romanians, but Gypsies. Leave that bias at the door if you want to complain about people not being part of the "modern globalized world."
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Cheap labour coming into the country = more competition for jobs = lower salaries. Simple as that. It's not personal, it's not even racist or xenophobic (for most people, anyway), but it makes lives of citizens of the said country worse, and that's why they are angry. The fact that many East European immigrants don't really speak the language of their target country well (if at all) and have much higher crime rates doesn't help their cause, either. On top of that, seeing an immigrant coming to 'work' in a foreign country and then living off child support benefits and council funded housing is just infuriating for locals.
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Have you heard of the minimum wage? For me as an Englishman, I'm more concerned about the backward thinking conservative social ideals and ill-conceived prejudices (racism) that our eastern European cousins seem to be bringing with them into the UK.
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If you don't want them, we gladly take them.
We desperately need some young people.
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On January 30 2013 23:19 Pandemona wrote:
Well isn't every party the same logic as that then?
No. The point is that populist parties get "easy votes" because of bad politics. A joke analogy would be to have 3 parties in some form of college election go at it arguing about teacher salaries, the state of education etc... then comes a populist 4th party and says "more beer for every student" and they get a huge amount of votes, simply because it's much easier to see personal benefits. This is common everywhere, especially lately in Europe where right-wing shit parties get tons of votes because they bring up immigration issues and makes all other politicians look like lying douchebags, instead of going for big important issues, they just say "lulz, XX% of rapes are done by people of muslim origin, we want to stop immigration but ALL OTHER POLITICIANS WANT TO GIVE AWAY OUR COUNTRY TO THE ARABS".
BTW, I'm not speaking specifically about the UKIP here, there are far more extreme examples etc.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
So if the other party gets in because they wanted to lower taxes isn't that the same thing? I don't understand where you are coming from as it all comes down to a popularity contest. Whether it is UKIP saying vote for us we will get you out of Europe or Conservatives saying vote for us, we will make sure we look after the rich.
UKIP are based around anti Europe, but that only gets you so far, look at BNP party. That is based on racism, and that only gets so far due to it being a purely racist party. UKIP has got itself so much higher than just an Anti Europe party. It takes more than just "vote for us, we will make sure we are out of Europe". The leader himself has already stated he thinks the EU will be dead in 5 years anyway as everyone will have left (before UK) or it goes bankrupt from bailing eachother out.
I know the point your saying, but i think it is completely wrong aspect to take, as every party is the same. It baits votes, whether it is for one thing or for another. Strong parties have multiple policies, like Labour/Conservaties/UKIP/Lib Dems (in England)
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The real split isn't between Romanians and English it's between highly skilled people and not so skilled ones.
Immigration is driving down costs in health care in the richer part of the EU, while putting the health care systems of Eastern Europe under enormous pressure. People with great skills benefit because they'll always have good jobs and they get higher quality care for the same price.
To think that you can just get rid of all the immigrants and fill their jobs with "native" UK citizens is crazy. For some jobs there wouldn't be enough skilled people to replace the immigrants. For other positions it would drive up costs, either making the whole enterprise unprofitable or in case of public services lead to higher taxes or budget deficit.
As far as "unproductive" immigration (i.e thieves, prostitution gangs or even people who immigrate for the benefits), it's certainly a problem but there are ways to deal with it.
The real problem is how to create a working social contract where more and more of the material wealth is created by a smaller and smaller part of the population. And it's not just because of concentration of wealth. There's a concentration of skills. Low skilled jobs aren't just being taken over by immigrants (although that's happening too), they are disappearing because of automation too.
There's a real danger of large parts of society finding themselves unable to contribute to society in any meaningful way.
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On January 31 2013 00:04 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 23:01 Zeuben wrote:On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did. What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP? Wow, what a double standard. Really? Those are gypsies and not those hard working Romanians of old? Give me a break. This blog is ridiculous, and this comment makes it even more obvious. I'm sorry that some internet images have soiled your image of Britain, and that a small, vocal minority of people have ruined the promise of England for you; I say this especially when Britain has had issues with Romanians in the past with gangs and such, and your answer to that is that these people aren't Romanians, but Gypsies. Leave that bias at the door if you want to complain about people not being part of the "modern globalized world."
As I said, its not internet images. Its these internet images posted on official british media and top british politician speaking about the danger of the bulgarian and romanian job seekers. Gypsies are another topic of discussion, but these people shown in the links are definately not regular romanians.
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On January 31 2013 00:51 mdb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 00:04 docvoc wrote:On January 30 2013 23:01 Zeuben wrote:On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did. What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP? Wow, what a double standard. Really? Those are gypsies and not those hard working Romanians of old? Give me a break. This blog is ridiculous, and this comment makes it even more obvious. I'm sorry that some internet images have soiled your image of Britain, and that a small, vocal minority of people have ruined the promise of England for you; I say this especially when Britain has had issues with Romanians in the past with gangs and such, and your answer to that is that these people aren't Romanians, but Gypsies. Leave that bias at the door if you want to complain about people not being part of the "modern globalized world." As I said, its not internet images. Its these internet images posted on official british media and top british politician speaking about the danger of the bulgarian and romanian job seekers. Gypsies are another topic of discussion, but these people shown in the links are definately not regular romanians.
Nigel Farage is not a 'top politician'. Most intelligent people regard UKIP as a joke for a reason. Also those posters were done by users and sent in, and the Guardian then posted the ones they found the funniest.
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Its my understanding that unless you are directly related too a druid pretty much all Britians are immigrants. I am not usually optimisitc but I think it will all work out in the end no matter who comes here imo.
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On January 30 2013 23:22 Xapti wrote:
Why were there laws against Bulgarians and Romanians working in (migrating to?) England there in the first place? What were they (ban/illegal, or what?), and Why were they removed?
It's because Bulgaria and Romania didn't join the EU until 2007, it took a few years for all the EU laws and regulations came into place allowing them to move to the UK.
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I think it's a good thing that people have a desire to work in UK. It means that UK is magnet for people and as the global population is going to peak in the mid 2050s which means that the latter years of this century there will be global competition for humans to populate the most promising countries at the end of the 21st century.
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Your always welcome here IMO, theres a problems with coming to claim benefits etc but thts simple to solve, if you want to come here to work your more than welcome, and to people saying we are full we arn't 92% of britain is rural plenty of space to build.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
On January 31 2013 01:21 Zaros wrote:
Your always welcome here IMO, theres a problems with coming to claim benefits etc but thts simple to solve, if you want to come here to work your more than welcome, and to people saying we are full we arn't 92% of britain is rural plenty of space to build.
Yeah fuck the countryside lets build thousand of houses on it, who needs forests and fields. Lets throw houses on it...
Dude come on ;_; i'm not one for green peace and that but, there is hardly anywhere left to build houses anymore, fields are being torn down everyday to make new houses etc. Wouldn't you want some field/forrest for your kids to play in or to go for a walk with your dog in 0.O
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On January 31 2013 01:25 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 01:21 Zaros wrote:
Your always welcome here IMO, theres a problems with coming to claim benefits etc but thts simple to solve, if you want to come here to work your more than welcome, and to people saying we are full we arn't 92% of britain is rural plenty of space to build. Yeah fuck the countryside lets build thousand of houses on it, who needs forests and fields. Lets throw houses on it... Dude come on ;_; i'm not one for green peace and that but, there is hardly anywhere left to build houses anymore, fields are being torn down everyday to make new houses etc. Wouldn't you want some field/forrest for your kids to play in or to go for a walk with your dog in 0.O
92% of the country is rural there is plenty of space to build more while keeping the country side.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
So out of that 92% how much of that is actually able to be built upon? Probably 60% of it max. That leaves then 30% of hills and stuff, deep forests (i dno xD). So 60% of flattened "rural" area's, to be built upon, so say 20% of that is built upon to help out the growing population, that leaves 40% of flattened rural area for the whole of the UK to use as country side xD and 30% of it hills to climb upon or forests to rummage through!
Sounds fun xD
(Hypothetical analysis ftw)
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Ah well, they can come to Germany instead. I live in Baden (Southern Germany) and the companies here are desperately looking for workers and apprentices. We also could really need some fresh blood as far as demographic development is concerned :3
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Interesting topic
I'm a staunch, supporter of UKIP and Nigel Farage (i would say the party wouldn't be nearly as much without him)
In regards to immigration, there's a big difference between skilled labour adding to our economy, and unskilled labour taking away from our economy.
Whether we like it or not, Britain has a very big issue with current welfare state and immigration, and it negatively impacts our economy and the people living in it. One way would be to have tighter controls on immigration.
However, i find it appalling that the general response to UKIP policies are that they are labelled as "racist" or "crazy" and therefore are discarded without considering their merits.
These are often typical responses in the general world when people want to ignore problems or solutions.
I also find it quite offensive that people would label voters of UKIP as "unintelligent" - on the contrary, UKIP is attracting voters from a demographic like mine, of smart, young workers who have sound understanding of economics and economic policy, and for those who follow a more Austrian view of economics.
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There are certainly other ways to solve these kinds of problems, such as a reduction in the welfare state, reduction in the state sector, cuts in taxes etc. All of which are policies UKIP strive for, from a small government, austrian economics point of view.
The issue we currently have is that whilst the conservative government claims to be running a different agenda from the other two major parties (though UKIP is now bigger than libdem and only growing) - unfortunately we didn't get the austerity we were promised, and state defecit and the size of the public sector is increasing, instead of decreasing, and regulation and inefficiency is going up, not down.
All 3 major parties (lib lab con) are still following a "borrow lots, screw the budget, don't really want to leave the EU"
I see UKIP as the voice of opposition. We pay 50 million pounds to the EU every day (or 60m euros) for the privilege of being within Europe. Along with this privelege we get a huge number of regulatory and red tape laws coming from Brussels, and a net defecit to our economy.
Those who believe that trade with Europe is our primary concern need to see that Europe is shrinking as a part of british trade every day, and they also need to look at the many countries who arn't part of Europe but trade fine with Europe anyway (Singapore anyone?)
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No, i don't support ALL of UKIP's policies, nor am i a "blind idiot" as some of you may like to believe. I chose my allegiance through a long process of weighing up and considering the merits and benefits of UKIP policies vs other parties.
If you still wish to label UKIP voters and supporters of Nigel Farage as "racists" or "xenophobes" (and btw, my family is a chinese immigrant to the UK), then that's OK
However, i hope that you too vote for your party not just because "you always have done" or because you think they are "morally superior", but because you have considered their policies and their ability to perform and actually agree with the direction they want to take the country.
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On January 31 2013 01:31 Pandemona wrote:
So out of that 92% how much of that is actually able to be built upon? Probably 60% of it max. That leaves then 30% of hills and stuff, deep forests (i dno xD). So 60% of flattened "rural" area's, to be built upon, so say 20% of that is built upon to help out the growing population, that leaves 40% of flattened rural area for the whole of the UK to use as country side xD and 30% of it hills to climb upon or forests to rummage through!
Sounds fun xD
(Hypothetical analysis ftw)
Also hypothetical analysis, alot of the flat rural areas can't be built on safely because of national parks and the such like and also are good friends the environmental agency and having plenty of SSSI's dotted around the country 
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
On January 31 2013 01:49 NKB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 01:31 Pandemona wrote:
So out of that 92% how much of that is actually able to be built upon? Probably 60% of it max. That leaves then 30% of hills and stuff, deep forests (i dno xD). So 60% of flattened "rural" area's, to be built upon, so say 20% of that is built upon to help out the growing population, that leaves 40% of flattened rural area for the whole of the UK to use as country side xD and 30% of it hills to climb upon or forests to rummage through!
Sounds fun xD
(Hypothetical analysis ftw) Also hypothetical analysis, alot of the flat rural areas can't be built on safely because of national parks and the such like and also are good friends the environmental agency and having plenty of SSSI's dotted around the country
Hypothetical analysis ftw!! xD
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An alarming amount of the UK is on welfare/benefits too. We are elitists but as a whole we really need to look at ourselves, anyway those posters are just an example of our elitism.
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How has anyone here been elitist? Do you even know what that word means?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51451 Posts
I'm not on any benefits, i have a job. I pay for everything, i pay taxes/NI. I don't mind if people come into the country if they came/come to work and pay the same things i pay. Etcetc
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On January 31 2013 03:44 Pandemona wrote:
I'm not on any benefits, i have a job. I pay for everything, i pay taxes/NI. I don't mind if people come into the country if they came/come to work and pay the same things i pay. Etcetc
Doesnt the immigrants pay the same taxes as uk citizents? Sincere question, I really dont know. From what I`ve read in local media it seems like foreign workers pay the same taxes and have the same benefits as uk citizens. I read an interview with bulgarian student in london and she said that a lot of immigrant workers are afraid that the british government is trying to make it so immigrants pay the same taxes, but have much more limited benefits like healthcare and so. This, if true, sounds to me like a good way to keep foreigners away.
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On January 31 2013 03:14 kollin wrote:
How has anyone here been elitist? Do you even know what that word means?
I never said anyone on TL is, I mean the same people who are on benefits when they don't have to be( as in perfectly healthy) and then will go to great lengths to ensure nobody that isn't from the UK can work in the UK.
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I don't get this blog... there are people in the UK who dislike people from other less developed europen nations coming here to work, right or wrong they are entitled to an opinion.
If this is something that offends you or you don't like, then don't come and work here? If Bulgarians are super great and super awesome, shouldn't you be working in your own country, helping your own economy?
I personally don't mind most immagrants who move here for work, as most of them are harder working that most of the white 'working class' british nationals...
but this blog makes almost no sense
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On January 30 2013 22:57 kollin wrote:
Out of interest Pandemona, where do your political beliefs lie? And why are you linking Daily Mail articles,let's be honest it's a joke paper -.-
lol, why even ask. he's made it pretty obvious what he stands for and what kind of person he is
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I am a hard working, honest citizen and I feel angry and powerless whenever I tell an Englishman where I come from and see his reaction. We're not all the same, and it saddens me to know that because of a stigma upon my country, I may get differential treatment.
Try putting yourself in my place when seeing those posters and tell me it doesn't hurt.
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On February 01 2013 00:43 Incze wrote:
I am a hard working, honest citizen and I feel angry and powerless whenever I tell an Englishman where I come from and see his reaction. We're not all the same, and it saddens me to know that because of a stigma upon my country, I may get differential treatment.
Try putting yourself in my place when seeing those posters and tell me it doesn't hurt.
Ok I know I'm really late to this blog but what the OP doesn't realise is that the posters are jokes, making fun of a government idea to use negative advertising about our own country to dissuade potential immigrants. These posters aren't malicious, they're satire of the kind of xenophobic attitudes you describe. Not all Englishmen are short sighted enough to despise immigrants.
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BBC giving the numbers of the potential emigrants
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