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So basically in 2014 the regulations for Bulgarians and Romanians to work in UK will be removed and everyone from our two countries can go and work in england. This is not accepted well from the british society and in the recent months this is accompanied by a histeria from the british media the end result of which are some kind of posters that aim to scare the "millions" of people who will enter UK on 01.01.2014. Posters like this :
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you can see more here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2013/jan/29/immigration-britain-ministers-gallery
I wont lie, as a Bulgarian I find this stuff kinda sad and insulting. I mean, come on, is this really necessary? Do the British really think we are some kind of morons and they need this lame sarcastic posters, so we can get what they really think? I wonder why they dont make posters about the thousand of englishmen coming in the summer on our resorts with the only aim to drink cheap alcohol all day, disrespect everyone, make trouble and start fights. Or the occasional british pedofile who have come to live here and is caught raping or killing children in the small villages?
I know people from UK think very highly of themselves, but they need to realize that its not 1750 anymore and accept the modern, globalized world.
Also I must remind that almost every bulgarian working in UK is hired by a British company. In most cases they are working the dirtiest and lowest paid jobs, although a lot of the people going there have university education. So UK, get your shit together and stop acting stupid.
 
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I think every modern country also has a large group of xenophobe conservatives as well as moderated scepticists regarding globalization, especially due to the suddenness of the way rules are changed.
Let's be honest, every country has idiots who fail in their own country and it is often these idiots who come looking for 'tons of free money' elsewhere. That is not to say everyone from their country is like them, and this poster is obviously not aimed at the intellectual part of societies who can contribute to the country they migrate to.
Don't be insulted so easily, think about the idiots who made this campaign and just sit back and laugh about it like a real adult.
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This blog is hilarious.
Britain has serious problems with immigration, we have approximately 2.49 million unnemployed people and more often than not, you are better off having a child and living on benefits than you are working for minimum wage.
The problem is, a lot of (hard working) europeans come to Britain and will hapilly do these jobs that for a lot of us, arent worth doing. With a child, you can get approximately £1400 each month, I went to university, work in a management role and I don't take home a great deal more than that after tax, so you can imagine how completely not worth doing a minimum wage job is for a lot of people.
Unfortunately the horse has now bolted, meaning we cant just kick them all out because it's against their human rights, you can understand why a minority of our populace resent europeans coming to work here. You mention a minority of Brits being disrespectful, they do not represent Britain.
I'm half Polish and I speak out when people disrespect Polish people, like I say, it's a minority of people.
If you're going to flip out over a few .jpg's then you need thicker skin.
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Cheers for generalising every single Briton based over a xenophobic, conservative group of racist arseholes who are very much in the minority.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Lol the reason this is being spoke about is because it is true.
It has nothing to do with how clever you are, but the money you get for "cleaning the loo" is probably the most money you would have ever earnt in a job. That is the reason for these signs. Europeans come over, do the easy jobs, and reep the benefits from the goverment/councils/NHS and have a much better lifestyle than that of back home.
Also i don't get why people would want to come over to England and work low level easy jobs for good money and get free NHS (health care) and free medicine for babies and a free house paid by the council. I have no idea why people would want to come to England.
Why do we go to Romania/Bulgaria? One reason, it's THE SUN, we don't get it in England, we go on holiday to see it, relax and some people get drunk with it.
Also, the reason why most people are pissed off we have an open gate to allow people in, is due to the fact their is NO room in England ;_;
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Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
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On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party.
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On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician.
Nigel Farage is an awesome man and the leader of the UKIP (UK Independence Party). He has a great following (mainly because of things like this), and it's completely up to the country if they want to allow foreigners in or not to work. Those who dislike him are at their own to feel that way, but without looking into it I wouldn't pass judgement on him or his ideologies.
My opinion is that we should shut the borders to allow the UK to grow internally rather than having foreigners come in and take jobs that could potentially be occupied by graduates from college who are, at the moment, being forced to take the route of debt and go to University. (I came to University by choice; but a lot of my friends have or are having to be forced into it)
It may seem "harsh" but it really isn't. We've been taking in plenty of residents from other countries for years, it was always going to hit the reality that we don't need or want as many that are coming. One of the only reasons that we are still allowing immigration is due to the EU, which could end extremely soon.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Also do you not know what the majority of Romanian people do in England? Or do you think they are all just like regular people who want to come over to England and find a better job than they could in Romania?
As you like the daily mail lets link you some of there news pieces;
Romanians
Romanians
Sun Version Is Over The Top, But Funny
More Gang Related Romanians
Main reason English don't like Romanians in England is due to them being a victim of pick pocketing or seen the hoards of them around
Pick Pockets!
On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party.
Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he?
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Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
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Out of interest Pandemona, where do your political beliefs lie? And why are you linking Daily Mail articles,let's be honest it's a joke paper -.-
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On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP?
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On January 30 2013 22:46 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party. Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he?
The party being populist is what made it into the 3rd biggest party (populism + dumb voters = win).
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Well to be honest name an English paper which isn't a joke? They all make up 90% of their stories and talk aload of crap to make you buy them
I rarely buy a paper, if i do it is for sport.
Politically, i don't really have an elegance to any of them.
I like what the conservatives are doing with our country at the moment, somethings i dislike, but i like the general direction we are going at the moment and think they are the right people in charge.
As for Europe i would say i agree with some of UKIPs policies (SOME). What is the point of being in Europe if it just costs us more than we need, we have to do what they say whether we think it is right or wrong and have to allow more people into our country as stated above, even though WE ARE FULL! It's not even a case of whether they have jobs or can find jobs, it is due to the fact we have no space ;_;
Costs us £50million a day to stay in Europe and be told what to do by people in power that just want to look after themselves, not even for their countries. It is quite a joke really Europe, but that is another topic. And as my friend just reminded me, the EU as a whole probably wont exists in the near future, as more than just England will be pulling out!
On January 30 2013 23:03 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:46 Pandemona wrote:On January 30 2013 22:39 kollin wrote:On January 30 2013 22:38 mdb wrote:
Well, this in something that is going on for a lot of time. It was started by the british tabloids, but now it reported in more seroious british media. The "threat" of romanian/bulgarian invasion in UK was also discussed by this guy Nigel Farage, who I know is british politician. Nigel Farage is one of the most stupid, blind men in all of Britain. I suggest you do some research on the UKIP party. Way over the top bro... "/ he is not blind or stupid. He hasn't turned UKIP into the 3rd biggest party in politics by being stupid has he? The party being populist is what made it into the 3rd biggest party (populism + dumb voters = win).
Well isn't every party the same logic as that then?
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Why were there laws against Bulgarians and Romanians working in (migrating to?) England there in the first place? What were they (ban/illegal, or what?), and Why were they removed?
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On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did.
I'm sorry, you can't generalise Brits abroad then sweep this under the carpet.
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On January 30 2013 23:01 Zeuben wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 22:50 mdb wrote:
Well, these are not regular romanians..., these are gypsies who live in Romania. But even so, if you dont like it do something about it, dunno what - exit the EU if you like or send them back by plane like France did. What like create advertisements detering people from coming to the UK like you posted in the OP?
Wow, what a double standard. Really? Those are gypsies and not those hard working Romanians of old? Give me a break. This blog is ridiculous, and this comment makes it even more obvious. I'm sorry that some internet images have soiled your image of Britain, and that a small, vocal minority of people have ruined the promise of England for you; I say this especially when Britain has had issues with Romanians in the past with gangs and such, and your answer to that is that these people aren't Romanians, but Gypsies. Leave that bias at the door if you want to complain about people not being part of the "modern globalized world."
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Cheap labour coming into the country = more competition for jobs = lower salaries. Simple as that. It's not personal, it's not even racist or xenophobic (for most people, anyway), but it makes lives of citizens of the said country worse, and that's why they are angry. The fact that many East European immigrants don't really speak the language of their target country well (if at all) and have much higher crime rates doesn't help their cause, either. On top of that, seeing an immigrant coming to 'work' in a foreign country and then living off child support benefits and council funded housing is just infuriating for locals.
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Have you heard of the minimum wage? For me as an Englishman, I'm more concerned about the backward thinking conservative social ideals and ill-conceived prejudices (racism) that our eastern European cousins seem to be bringing with them into the UK.
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so you best be careful where this heads XD
