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iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 29 2012 06:19 GMT
#21
Really good advice from everyone. The reason I haven't ended it yet is because despite the fact that I'm not happy now, things were good before and I was happy then. I want to at least try to get it back to that point before I call it quits. I don't think GF realizes how much her constant negativity is effecting our relationship. If I can get her to realize that, maybe things can change for the better again.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 29 2012 06:21 GMT
#22
also this is the first girl I've dated who I can legitimately see myself spending the rest of my life with, so it's hard to let that go without really trying everything to save it.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 09:18:18
December 29 2012 09:16 GMT
#23
On December 29 2012 10:26 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 07:02 bonifaceviii wrote:
It seems you're dating a witch who is making you anxious through black magic.

Luckily the Museum of Icelandic Sorcery and Witchcraft has a simple, elegant solution: write this symbol on the shoulderblade of a seal with the blood of a mouse and carry it with you on your person.
[image loading]

Alternatively, be a man and end the relationship. If you've tried to talk it out with her and she's not willing to either explain or attempt to make things better, what's the point of it?


I have to say I've been to Iceland, and if that worked for the bad-ass vikings that lived there stealing women from Sweden and Norway, it should work for you as well.

Dump her. You deserve better.


Except that, that is all off. Icelandic vikings were mostly Norwegian settlers (the men) and irish/british women (which they stole since they had a shortage of women). The vikings had some liking to those women for some reason, possibly they were thought more beautiful. It is to this day assumed that they were kidnapped and brought back as slaves etc. but there are also theories on them finding the viking life more to their liking. Viking women had more rights than women in Britain at the time and usually managed farms etc. while the men went to war. Women also had the right to inheritance. This took most countries in Europe until the 1900s before it was legalized.

That is why the Nordic (especially Icelandic) saying goes about Icelandic women being so good looking, because the vikings only took the good looking Irish/British girls. This is very obvious when looking at DNA as well.

(Sources: all pages on the first page after googling)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iceland
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/vikings/women_01.shtml
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090908075528AAtokUv
http://www.scoilnet.ie/womeninhistory/content/unit1/viking.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/viking-sex-tourists-lived-happily-ever-after-with-britons-711103.html
http://www.exploreiceland.is/about_iceland/history_of_iceland/icelandic_vikings/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_people#Initial_migration_and_settlement
http://www.world66.com/europe/iceland/people
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 09:36:31
December 29 2012 09:35 GMT
#24
On December 29 2012 12:57 alQahira wrote:
I would say ending the relationship is probably your best bet, but if you want to give it the old college try, here is my advice.

1. Talk to her and ask if she has some time for a serious conversation (i.e. don't do this when you guys only have 15 minutes to talk or something.

2. Tell her how it feels from your perspective, make sure you use lots of "I" language, like, "Lately I've been feeling anxious because it seems to me that you are often in a bad mood, and I don't want to do anything to upset you further." Specifics are good, so if you can discuss the details of a specific time that it seemed to you she was in a bad mood and you felt anxious, all the better. Just remember to keep the focus on you and your reactions, rather than being like, "why are you always in a bad mood, that sucks."

3. Hopefully, the conversation above will prompt a response from her about what has been causing the bad moods, but if not, you might venture into asking what has been causing them, and if there is anything you can do to help/prevent them.

4. If she doesn't take this conversation well, and gets all defensive, it probably means you should end it. Most likely, the reason she is always upset is that she is thinking about ending the relationship as well and neither of you want to take the step to do it.

Good luck!

I agree. You can either end it (if you're not happy around her, what's the point of being in a relationship?) or you can try to communicate. If communicating still doesn't work out, I'm afraid you'll have to draw your conclusions.

If you really see her as someone you'd spend the rest of your life with, it means that she's someone worth fighting for.
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
December 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#25
Take note of alQahira's second point. This is called non-violent communication. If you don't know anything about it then the time is now to learn it and take it to heart because it has the power to transform every relationship in your life.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
December 29 2012 13:08 GMT
#26
A small bit of advice:

If you're doing something, or even if you're not, if a girl you're trying to get with tells (asks) you to "come here", don't. Simply, don't. Keep up what you're doing, and make her come to you.

I remember one of my friends was trying to get with a chick who had complete control over him. She stopped being interested. If she said "come here", there he came, like a little puppy.

Best advice I can give, though, is to be attractive. ^^
ElizarTringov
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Bulgaria317 Posts
December 29 2012 17:33 GMT
#27
On December 29 2012 15:21 iamahydralisk wrote:
also this is the first girl I've dated who I can legitimately see myself spending the rest of my life with, so it's hard to let that go without really trying everything to save it.


If you really feel this way then stay with her and do your best to get through this rough patch.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
December 29 2012 18:35 GMT
#28
Don't listen to GnarlyArbitrage's post, that kind of stuff only really works on girls you are looking to hook up with/just met, ignoring your girlfriend/defying requests is just going to make you look like an asshole; good look for pickups, but your giving your girlfriend fuel to her bitch-fest when she tells all her friends about it.

As a veteran of a 6 year relationship that is undergoing exactly what you describe, I feel your pain. In my case my GF is doing exactly what you describe, she seems to go off on me at unexpected times/sees the negatives alot, trouble is it is only with me and her close family(sister, parents), so it makes it hard on me because all our friends see a friendly, bubbly person whereas me and her family are treated to some extroadinary bitchouts and ultra-critical attitude.

My only advice would be to stop thinking emotionally and think rationally; you are 6 months in and this has already begun, I personally didn't notice this trait at all in my GF until a very serious life-changing trauma(rape by a family friend) which seemed to be where this change of personality came from. So my best piece of advice is really dig into her brain, don't accept the answers she will give you at first and be more analytical, because your only hope of fixing the problem will be to atleast understand the exact issue that is causing this behavior; even then it might not be something you can change, it might be a personality trait of hers, something in you she that doesnt work for her.

I will finish by saying I know it's hard to walk away from someone, especially when you are still in love with them. Hopefully you can get out or fix your issues before you get too emotionally involved; dont end up like me. Due to these issues and the constant critical, personal attacks I've been pretty down on myself the last 6 months or so despite my professional career improving steadily and and finding more and more confidence in my skill set, my girlfriend has been undermining this to the point where after a discussion I have had strong thoughts of suicide because there's too much floating around in my head.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#29
On December 30 2012 03:35 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Don't listen to GnarlyArbitrage's post, that kind of stuff only really works on girls you are looking to hook up with/just met, ignoring your girlfriend/defying requests is just going to make you look like an asshole; good look for pickups, but your giving your girlfriend fuel to her bitch-fest when she tells all her friends about it.

As a veteran of a 6 year relationship that is undergoing exactly what you describe, I feel your pain. In my case my GF is doing exactly what you describe, she seems to go off on me at unexpected times/sees the negatives alot, trouble is it is only with me and her close family(sister, parents), so it makes it hard on me because all our friends see a friendly, bubbly person whereas me and her family are treated to some extroadinary bitchouts and ultra-critical attitude.

My only advice would be to stop thinking emotionally and think rationally; you are 6 months in and this has already begun, I personally didn't notice this trait at all in my GF until a very serious life-changing trauma(rape by a family friend) which seemed to be where this change of personality came from. So my best piece of advice is really dig into her brain, don't accept the answers she will give you at first and be more analytical, because your only hope of fixing the problem will be to atleast understand the exact issue that is causing this behavior; even then it might not be something you can change, it might be a personality trait of hers, something in you she that doesnt work for her.

I will finish by saying I know it's hard to walk away from someone, especially when you are still in love with them. Hopefully you can get out or fix your issues before you get too emotionally involved; dont end up like me. Due to these issues and the constant critical, personal attacks I've been pretty down on myself the last 6 months or so despite my professional career improving steadily and and finding more and more confidence in my skill set, my girlfriend has been undermining this to the point where after a discussion I have had strong thoughts of suicide because there's too much floating around in my head.

I'm sorry you're dealing with such a rough time. Have you talked to her about this stuff? I mean, saying exactly what you typed here. "Since that happened, I feel like you've been a different person and I just want us to be happy again." Try using phrases like "I feel...." instead of just "you do x wrong" so she doesn't feel like she's being accused. If she's anything like my girlfriend, she'll get defensive immediately and stop listening to you completely.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
December 29 2012 19:27 GMT
#30
^^ We've talked about it SO much, she acknowledged the issue for the last year, and then suddenly about 6 months ago it started to be about my failings more than her. Like for example our sex life has dropped off considerably(which for 5 years was VERY healthy, not so much after the afore-mentioned issue which was about 2 years ago, had about a 3-6 month break where we had to ease back into sexuality as she was feeling very uncomfortable about it), we still have sex but more like once a week(and im 24), I try to instigate and im "horny all the time", if I let her instigate then we never have sex and she blames me because I don't put her in the mood....it has got to the stage where if we break up its going to take a long time for me to be able to have sexual relations with someone else because I don't feel at all comfortable with my sexuality anymore, I feel useless, which is a shame because she always praised my unselfish attitude in the sack as one of the reasons our sex was so great...

Sorry for the threadjack I just have a lot of steam about this kind of stuff pent up(ive been with family for the last 2-3 weeks without her, and I cant really talk to anyone in my family about this kind of stuff), and I feel by expressing my problems it might help others to make sense of their issues...I've spent 6 years(18-24) with this person who I would die for and I feel like i've thrown away the prime of my life for someone who cant even stand to be with me anymore.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#31
On December 30 2012 04:27 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
^^ We've talked about it SO much, she acknowledged the issue for the last year, and then suddenly about 6 months ago it started to be about my failings more than her. Like for example our sex life has dropped off considerably(which for 5 years was VERY healthy, not so much after the afore-mentioned issue which was about 2 years ago, had about a 3-6 month break where we had to ease back into sexuality as she was feeling very uncomfortable about it), we still have sex but more like once a week(and im 24), I try to instigate and im "horny all the time", if I let her instigate then we never have sex and she blames me because I don't put her in the mood....it has got to the stage where if we break up its going to take a long time for me to be able to have sexual relations with someone else because I don't feel at all comfortable with my sexuality anymore, I feel useless, which is a shame because she always praised my unselfish attitude in the sack as one of the reasons our sex was so great...

Sorry for the threadjack I just have a lot of steam about this kind of stuff pent up(ive been with family for the last 2-3 weeks without her, and I cant really talk to anyone in my family about this kind of stuff), and I feel by expressing my problems it might help others to make sense of their issues...I've spent 6 years(18-24) with this person who I would die for and I feel like i've thrown away the prime of my life for someone who cant even stand to be with me anymore.

No worries about threadjacking lol. I made this blog as a relationship advice general type of thing where everyone can post and get advice.

Anyway, I know it's hard to hear (and probably not what you want to hear), but it sounds like you should end it with her. It sounds like you're only in it at this point because you've put so much into it and not because it makes you happy anymore. If you've talked to her about it and she won't change, there's not much more you can do, sadly.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 31 2012 00:55 GMT
#32
update: I talked to her about everything and did my very best to use non-combative communication, but it went horribly because she still immediately slipped into her defensive ways and tried to make me seem like the bad guy. She walked out on me and I followed her, and even used the phrase "All I'm trying to do here is explain to you what isn't working for me about this relationship, and you walk out on me." Maybe not the best choice of words there, but 100% true. We ended up making up though (this was last night) and I thought I finally got through to her, but now I don't think so. We got into another really stupid fight when I was leaving today, and this fight is a picture-perfect representation of all of our fights. Here's the situation:

We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.

This is how all of our fights go. She'll be frustrated about something unrelated to me and then she starts taking it out on me and things go badly from there. I've tried to explain to her time and time again that this keeps happening and I NEED it to stop if we're going to stay together, but nothing's changed. I really thought I got through to her last night because we both made a list of things we wanted the other to work on and this was the number one thing on my list for her, but after today, it seems like yet again, it was all talk and nothing actually changed. I'm sick and tired of being the main outlet for her frustrations when the majority of the time, I'm not even the one who caused them. I'm sick and tired of feeling like I can't do a damn thing right because even when I try to cheer her up or comfort her, it never works anyway and she still keeps laying into me. I'm going to give her one last chance and if she can't change, I'm gone. I've never broken up with anyone before (always been the one who gets broken up with), so it'll be hard for me to do... but I feel like I have to at this point. I can't stand beating my head against a brick wall and seeing no improvement anymore.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 01:58:40
December 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#33
I recommend the book "Way of the superior man" by David Deida. It is filled with brilliant and often exceptionally simple insights (that you will recognize as truth in your gut immediately) into the masculine and the feminine; but it's not for the feint of heart. "I'm sick and tired of being the main outlet for her frustrations when the majority of the time, I'm not even the one who caused them" reminds me of a few chapters: "Stop hoping for your woman to get easier", "Tolerating her leads to resenting her", "Her complaint is content-free". If you are at all feeling frustrated by relationships and are interested in personal development, this is surely a book to look into.

"If you are like most men, however, you probably end up feeling burdened by your woman's mood. You feel your woman is a pain in the ass. You wish your woman would leave you alone and take care of herself. Eventually you feel worn down, or frustrated. You end up simply tolerating your woman's moods, while resentment builds up inside of you. You wonder, what's her problem? Why can't she just be happy?"

Sound familiar?

Good luck
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
December 31 2012 02:45 GMT
#34
On December 31 2012 09:55 iamahydralisk wrote:
We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.


To me, it sounds like you were patronizing her. People don't really like that all too much. Especially when they're getting pissed. Next time, just beat her ass at the game. Don't console, just destroy.

Also, don't be sorry. Never be sorry for something you meant to do.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 31 2012 02:46 GMT
#35
On December 31 2012 11:45 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 09:55 iamahydralisk wrote:
We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.


To me, it sounds like you were patronizing her. People don't really like that all too much. Especially when they're getting pissed. Next time, just beat her ass at the game. Don't console, just destroy.

Also, don't be sorry. Never be sorry for something you meant to do.

lol. come on brah
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
December 31 2012 02:48 GMT
#36
On December 31 2012 11:46 iamahydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 11:45 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:55 iamahydralisk wrote:
We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.


To me, it sounds like you were patronizing her. People don't really like that all too much. Especially when they're getting pissed. Next time, just beat her ass at the game. Don't console, just destroy.

Also, don't be sorry. Never be sorry for something you meant to do.

lol. come on brah



Am I wrong? Wouldn't you find it annoying if someone you were playing a game with kept telling you how sorry they were for winning? I mean, who the fuck says sorry for winning? Winners don't say sorry for winning. They bask in eternal glory.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 31 2012 03:05 GMT
#37
On December 31 2012 11:48 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 11:46 iamahydralisk wrote:
On December 31 2012 11:45 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:55 iamahydralisk wrote:
We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.


To me, it sounds like you were patronizing her. People don't really like that all too much. Especially when they're getting pissed. Next time, just beat her ass at the game. Don't console, just destroy.

Also, don't be sorry. Never be sorry for something you meant to do.

lol. come on brah



Am I wrong? Wouldn't you find it annoying if someone you were playing a game with kept telling you how sorry they were for winning? I mean, who the fuck says sorry for winning? Winners don't say sorry for winning. They bask in eternal glory.

girls are different dude. they're sensitive and squishy and stuff
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 03:29:31
December 31 2012 03:24 GMT
#38
Demolishing someone in a game does not preclude you from demonstrating your love. She doesn't give a crap about winning or your excuses--you are a masterful nerd after all--she just wants to feel loved and secure, which all went out the window when you walked away. Seriously, read the book I recommended. If everyone understood the ideas within in their hearts, girl blogs would not and could not exist.
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
December 31 2012 03:32 GMT
#39
On December 31 2012 12:05 iamahydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 11:48 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On December 31 2012 11:46 iamahydralisk wrote:
On December 31 2012 11:45 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
On December 31 2012 09:55 iamahydralisk wrote:
We were playing Mario Party (sound silly yet?) and it was me, her, and two comps. She was losing pretty badly, and I was winning. She was understandably frustrated (nobody likes to lose), so I was comforting her by agreeing with all her bitching about the game and how unfair it was, saying I was sorry the game was being so unfair to her, etc. I ended up winning the game and I could see she was noticeably pissed. I tried to comfort her by giving her a hug and saying comforting things and she started laying into ME with her frustration. Then she had the audacity to accuse me of somehow instigating the fight, and for the first time, I walked out on her, got in my car and just drove away. I just couldn't take it anymore, so I left.


To me, it sounds like you were patronizing her. People don't really like that all too much. Especially when they're getting pissed. Next time, just beat her ass at the game. Don't console, just destroy.

Also, don't be sorry. Never be sorry for something you meant to do.

lol. come on brah



Am I wrong? Wouldn't you find it annoying if someone you were playing a game with kept telling you how sorry they were for winning? I mean, who the fuck says sorry for winning? Winners don't say sorry for winning. They bask in eternal glory.

girls are different dude. they're sensitive and squishy and stuff


Yes, this is true. Women are sensitive and squishy and bubbly and all that sorts of stuff. Men aren't. Are you a man or a woman? What is it that your woman wants?
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#40
On December 31 2012 12:24 Mstring wrote:
Demolishing someone in a game does not preclude you from demonstrating your love. She doesn't give a crap about winning or your excuses--you are a masterful nerd after all--she just wants to feel loved and secure, which all went out the window when you walked away. Seriously, read the book I recommended. If everyone understood the ideas within in their hearts, girl blogs would not and could not exist.

it's true, she's raging pissed at me for walking away and says she doesn't know if we can be together after that. in hindsight, I shouldn't have, but it's easy to understand why I did at the time. the night before, we'd talked about the exact thing that ended up being the source of the mario party fight (makes me laugh just writing that) and I was pissed because it seemed like she hadn't truly listened to a word I said.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
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