• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:24
CEST 18:24
KST 01:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1828 users

Haven't made a blog in a while...

Blogs > ieatkids5
Post a Reply
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 12:04:54
December 12 2012 12:01 GMT
#1
So here's just some stuff that's been on my mind. Just to start, my parents have been encouraging me to not get stressed out so easily. I've always been that quiet kid who sits in the corner and plays computer games, and I think. A LOT. I've been trying to relax my mind more. Sometimes I'll lay down on my bed and do like 10 minutes of deep breathing without trying to think about anything. Also try that sometimes before I go to sleep. Just trying to make life less stressful. So that's why I thought it'd be a good idea to take down all my thoughts somewhere.

What's your image of a typical Chinese?

[image loading]
Do you think of this guy?

My parents are Chinese, immigrated from Hong Kong, and I was born in the US in the suburbs where pretty much only white people live. Therefore, the only interaction I've had with Asians is with my family. As such, throughout my twenty one years of life, I've formed this image of what Asians 'should' be, modeled after how I see my parents: they value hard work, family, stable lifestyle, generosity, honesty. They believe that one should be able to find happiness in non-material things - finding happiness in family and friends. Of course, that's not to say that getting a good, well-paying, stable job doesn't matter. One should make ends meet, be able to provide for oneself and one's loved ones, but not be completely attached to the material.

This is how my parents raised my brother and me, and how I see them live life.

What happens when I go to university? I meet a lot of Asians. Made friends with a lot of them, got to know them, learned about them. After 3 or 4 years of interacting with Asians, mostly Chinese, it began to hit me: these Asian friends of mine (I'm talking FOB Asians, not Americans with Asian ancestry) are nothing like what I thought Asians should be. So many of them seem shallow, fake, materialistic, selfish. I would think to myself "I'm more Chinese than these fobs." What the hell happened?

[image loading]
This happened

What I realized was that my family is not a good representation of Chinese, let alone Asians.. Chinese (and Asians), just like white people, Hispanic people, black people, and so on, all have their share of different types of people. Perhaps the Chinese that I became acquainted with, and mainland Chinese in general, are more materialistic in general than others. After all, that's how their current society shaped them. But my image of them was still flawed.

Seems like a pretty obvious conclusion - that just because my family is a certain way doesn't mean all other Chinese are like that. But it's difficult to have thought otherwise while I was growing up. My only source of interaction with Asians was with my family; I only hung out with white Americans. I watched American TV and movies, listened to American music, lived in American society. And the contrast between this life, and home life that was shaped by family, was just too stark.

Anyways, I'm actually really glad that my family stands out, to me, as exceptional compared to the rest of the Chinese (and Americans as well, but that might be for another blog post).

Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
December 12 2012 13:22 GMT
#2
Just a thought but if they are born in China and going to Uni in the US it is probably costing there parents a lot of money, ergo they are probably very well off.

Could be why you perceive them as materialistic.

Praise the sun! \o/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45937 Posts
December 12 2012 14:02 GMT
#3
Are you saying their cultural values change from hard-working, responsible, and respectful to superficial, lazy, and materialistic...

Or that all of a sudden everyone in China lost their facial hair and became really really hot?

I think in general, it's okay to want nice things and still work hard for them. While our generation as a whole does take a lot for granted, I think there may be a bit of a false dichotomy going on here between hard-working and superficial. I work my ass off for my education and at my jobs... but then I also like to spend a little on nice things for myself, my family, and my girlfriend when I have some extra cash. I'd consider myself relatively materialistic (I don't have a smartphone, but I bought myself a good laptop and I like to be well-dressed), but I'm also responsible and very respectful.

I'm not Asian, but I think it's our generation as a whole... being more selfish and greedy and feeling entitled, because so much is handed to us on a silver platter. It's just about how we were raised.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
December 12 2012 14:16 GMT
#4
On December 12 2012 22:22 Shottaz wrote:
Just a thought but if they are born in China and going to Uni in the US it is probably costing there parents a lot of money, ergo they are probably very well off.

Could be why you perceive them as materialistic.


Definitely related. I'm not saying "because their parents are well off, they are materialistic." It's moreso because the "new rich" in China tend to pamper and spoil their kids, making them materialistic because they care a lot about buying new things and other superficial things.

People can buy expensive things and earn lots of money (but not really value them that much), and at the same time value things like hard work, family/friend relationships, etc. The feeling I get from some of them is that they value materialism more than other things.

But this is sorta getting off topic (which is fine), since not only Asians are like this. I've met countless other non-Asians who are just as bad. The point of my blog was to illustrate the interesting thing that happens when one only interacts with a very few number of Chinese, and ends up generating a particular image of how Chinese should be, then realizing my flawed perspective.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
December 12 2012 14:23 GMT
#5
On December 12 2012 23:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Are you saying their cultural values change from hard-working, responsible, and respectful to superficial, lazy, and materialistic...

Or that all of a sudden everyone in China lost their facial hair and became really really hot?

I think in general, it's okay to want nice things and still work hard for them. While our generation as a whole does take a lot for granted, I think there may be a bit of a false dichotomy going on here between hard-working and superficial. I work my ass off for my education and at my jobs... but then I also like to spend a little on nice things for myself, my family, and my girlfriend when I have some extra cash. I'd consider myself relatively materialistic (I don't have a smartphone, but I bought myself a good laptop and I like to be well-dressed), but I'm also responsible and very respectful.

I'm not Asian, but I think it's our generation as a whole... being more selfish and greedy and feeling entitled, because so much is handed to us on a silver platter. It's just about how we were raised.

Hahaha, oh I wish it was the second option.

No, I meant that I had taken 2 Asians (my parents) and impressed how I see them onto how I see all other Asians (because I grew up in a mostly white society, so my only interaction with Asians are my family). Of course there are materialistic people in all generations, my parents' generation and before that as well (but perhaps more people are materialistic nowadays? not sure).

I do think it's good to want nice things and work hard for them. Being hard working is always a good trait to have. The problem occurs when one starts becoming too attached to those nice things and you forget other important aspects of life. Also, I think spending money on your family and your girlfriend is most definitely not considered materialistic, if you're doing it as a kind gesture to show that you care about them.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 14:25:02
December 12 2012 14:24 GMT
#6
Kind of like when you play as China infantry general on C&C Zero Hour then go back to playing regular C&C Generals as China.
Praise the sun! \o/
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#52
TKL 1000
RotterdaM445
SteadfastSC49
BRAT_OK 47
IndyStarCraft 41
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 1000
RotterdaM 445
mouzHeroMarine 335
SteadfastSC 49
BRAT_OK 47
IndyStarCraft 41
UpATreeSC 24
MindelVK 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6694
Bisu 1687
Britney 1656
Hyuk 418
BeSt 331
Soulkey 264
firebathero 177
Rush 103
scan(afreeca) 66
sorry 64
[ Show more ]
Hyun 59
Dewaltoss 50
ToSsGirL 37
Aegong 32
Sharp 28
Rock 23
910 21
GoRush 14
Terrorterran 12
Dota 2
qojqva1605
syndereN566
monkeys_forever233
Counter-Strike
byalli394
Other Games
singsing2673
Liquid`RaSZi1309
B2W.Neo1112
hiko942
ceh9309
Hui .293
KnowMe98
Trikslyr50
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1699
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 88
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 42
• Michael_bg 5
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6583
Other Games
• WagamamaTV465
• imaqtpie352
• Shiphtur307
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 36m
The PondCast
17h 36m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 36m
WardiTV Qualifier
21h 36m
GSL
1d 17h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.